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Quote from: Will on November 18, 2013, 12:40:12 AM
Happened to walk past the bus depot yesterday afternoon and noticed that (31507, R455 CCV) is parked up round the back with a V.O.R. notice in the windscreen which leads me to think that it's in the process of being disposed of a V.O.R. notice also apply's to (52503, R503 CNP) and also I noticed that (30428, S405 JUA) has vanished which leads me to think that it's been either sold or scrapped everything else was as normal from what I could see in anycase.

Quote from: Winston on November 18, 2013, 01:10:51 AM

Quote from: Will on November 18, 2013, 12:40:12 AM
Happened to walk past the bus depot yesterday afternoon and noticed that (31507, R455 CCV) is parked up round the back with a V.O.R. notice in the windscreen which leads me to think that it's in the process of being disposed of a V.O.R. notice also apply's to (52503, R503 CNP) and also I noticed that (30428, S405 JUA) has vanished which leads me to think that it's been either sold or scrapped everything else was as normal from what I could see in anycase.

Could 30428 have been locked up in one of the engineering bays? As it was only a recent transfer to KR

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

I haven't seen T418 MNH for a few days.

I forgot there is also a black diamond MPD (identity unknown as the front panels are missing) round the back of KR depot.

R455 CCV and R503 CNP linger on.

S405 JUA also looked from the outside to me as though the seats has been re-upholstered, but it may just be well looked after.

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 14, 2013, 05:11:13 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

I haven't seen T418 MNH for a few days.

I forgot there is also a black diamond MPD (identity unknown as the front panels are missing) round the back of KR depot.

R455 CCV and R503 CNP linger on.

S405 JUA also looked from the outside to me as though the seats has been re-upholstered, but it may just be well looked after.

Thanks for your replies Sam-hopefully will be over at Kidderminster very soon to get photos of the new stuff. Surprised 30428 was repainted but the seats were retrimmed when it was repainted white a while ago and are this bus's only good feature....!

Will try and work out which MPD it is-maybe being stripped for parts though most of the black diamond mpds are the newer ones...so maybe being repaited.
Glad R455CCV is still there and I'm hoping T418MNH is repainted as it is possibly the best dart diamond have-good interior with no rattles whatsoever though the outside looks a bit of a mess.

Thanks for your reply about the V...HEC darts as well as I was hoping they had had the logos applied by now. Sorry, one final thing, have you seen V652HEC as if you have seen it in blue then it has had a repaint as it used to be in green and white.

Thanks :)

Quote from: StourportSam on December 14, 2013, 10:55:04 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 14, 2013, 05:11:13 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

I haven't seen T418 MNH for a few days.

I forgot there is also a black diamond MPD (identity unknown as the front panels are missing) round the back of KR depot.

R455 CCV and R503 CNP linger on.

S405 JUA also looked from the outside to me as though the seats has been re-upholstered, but it may just be well looked after.

Thanks for your replies Sam-hopefully will be over at Kidderminster very soon to get photos of the new stuff. Surprised 30428 was repainted but the seats were retrimmed when it was repainted white a while ago and are this bus's only good feature....!

Will try and work out which MPD it is-maybe being stripped for parts though most of the black diamond mpds are the newer ones...so maybe being repaited.
Glad R455CCV is still there and I'm hoping T418MNH is repainted as it is possibly the best dart diamond have-good interior with no rattles whatsoever though the outside looks a bit of a mess.

Thanks for your reply about the V...HEC darts as well as I was hoping they had had the logos applied by now. Sorry, one final thing, have you seen V652HEC as if you have seen it in blue then it has had a repaint as it used to be in green and white.

Thanks :)

Just by chance I remember seeing V652HEC yesterday, and it was blue.

Quote from: bewminster on December 15, 2013, 02:16:48 PM
how many of  the ex  54 reg darts and enviros are still in first livery   30930 to 30935 .
I know dart 30932 is in diamond livery  not seen  30930 0r 30931 for a while are they
still at Kidderminster. I know  enviros  are Redditch vehicles which I belive also one
of those has been repainted. just asking about enviros here save another post

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 15, 2013, 01:37:56 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 14, 2013, 10:55:04 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 14, 2013, 05:11:13 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

I haven't seen T418 MNH for a few days.

I forgot there is also a black diamond MPD (identity unknown as the front panels are missing) round the back of KR depot.

R455 CCV and R503 CNP linger on.

S405 JUA also looked from the outside to me as though the seats has been re-upholstered, but it may just be well looked after.

Thanks for your replies Sam-hopefully will be over at Kidderminster very soon to get photos of the new stuff. Surprised 30428 was repainted but the seats were retrimmed when it was repainted white a while ago and are this bus's only good feature....!

Will try and work out which MPD it is-maybe being stripped for parts though most of the black diamond mpds are the newer ones...so maybe being repaited.
Glad R455CCV is still there and I'm hoping T418MNH is repainted as it is possibly the best dart diamond have-good interior with no rattles whatsoever though the outside looks a bit of a mess.

Thanks for your reply about the V...HEC darts as well as I was hoping they had had the logos applied by now. Sorry, one final thing, have you seen V652HEC as if you have seen it in blue then it has had a repaint as it used to be in green and white.

Thanks :)

Just by chance I remember seeing V652HEC yesterday, and it was blue.

Thanks for that info Sam-means that has had a repaint as well. Other than the remaining ex first dart 31507 and T418MNH everything in Kidderminster must now be in diamond blue which is good. Unless there is anything else in a different livery?

Quote from: StourportSam on December 15, 2013, 06:06:20 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 15, 2013, 01:37:56 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 14, 2013, 10:55:04 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 14, 2013, 05:11:13 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 11:53:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 13, 2013, 01:21:44 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 13, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
S405 JUA seen running in Kidderminster in a new coat of Diamond blue today.

V382 SVV is round the back of KR depot as VOR.

Very surprised they have repainted it... anyone seen t418mnh in a while as that could also be away for repaint? I imagine 30382 will be repaired if it is vor as it is a recent transfer/refurb

Thanks for the update Sam!

I haven't seen T418 MNH for a few days.

I forgot there is also a black diamond MPD (identity unknown as the front panels are missing) round the back of KR depot.

R455 CCV and R503 CNP linger on.

S405 JUA also looked from the outside to me as though the seats has been re-upholstered, but it may just be well looked after.

Thanks for your replies Sam-hopefully will be over at Kidderminster very soon to get photos of the new stuff. Surprised 30428 was repainted but the seats were retrimmed when it was repainted white a while ago and are this bus's only good feature....!

Will try and work out which MPD it is-maybe being stripped for parts though most of the black diamond mpds are the newer ones...so maybe being repaited.
Glad R455CCV is still there and I'm hoping T418MNH is repainted as it is possibly the best dart diamond have-good interior with no rattles whatsoever though the outside looks a bit of a mess.

Thanks for your reply about the V...HEC darts as well as I was hoping they had had the logos applied by now. Sorry, one final thing, have you seen V652HEC as if you have seen it in blue then it has had a repaint as it used to be in green and white.

Thanks :)

Just by chance I remember seeing V652HEC yesterday, and it was blue.

Thanks for that info Sam-means that has had a repaint as well. Other than the remaining ex first dart 31507 and T418MNH everything in Kidderminster must now be in diamond blue which is good. Unless there is anything else in a different livery?

Unfortuneatly that's not the case!
There are MPDs V266 BNV and T71 JBA in Red Diamond livery...

Quote from: StourportSam on December 16, 2013, 07:42:49 PM
Heavily stripped and dirty full size dart in Central Connect livery noted in Kidderminster depot today, couldn't ID it as the whole front is missing apart from windscreen! Looked as though it was either involved in a smash or has been towed to Kidderminster from storage.

I'm lucky that my route to work, on the bus of course, goes past the garage - so will provide updates on what I see when I can...

• T418 MNH is still operating in Diamond Red and White, seen this evening on the 3.
  
• VX54 MUO and VX54 MUC are still operating in ex First livery, also seen on the 3 this evening.

Quote from: StourportSam on December 19, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
I answer to questions I know have been asked on here:

• T418 MNH is still operating in Diamond Red and White, seen this evening on the 3.
  
• VX54 MUO and VX54 MUC are still operating in ex First livery, also seen on the 3 this evening.

Also, V658 HEC has gained one of its seats in new First mochette - looks rather fetching amongst the other very worn seats!!
MW52 PZR now has a bizarre combination of DIAMOND logo on the front and Blue Diamond everywhere else.

Quote from: DiamondDart on December 19, 2013, 07:46:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on December 19, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
I answer to questions I know have been asked on here:

• T418 MNH is still operating in Diamond Red and White, seen this evening on the 3.
  
• VX54 MUO and VX54 MUC are still operating in ex First livery, also seen on the 3 this evening.

Also, V658 HEC has gained one of its seats in new First mochette - looks rather fetching amongst the other very worn seats!!
MW52 PZR now has a bizarre combination of DIAMOND logo on the front and Blue Diamond everywhere else.

Thanks for the update Sam

Quote from: StourportSam on December 24, 2013, 08:37:17 PM
KU52 YJY operating the 2 in Kidderminster yesterday, still with adverts inside for Wessex Connect... (!!!?????).

Quote from: StourportSam on January 03, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
W572 JVV is now operating from Kidderminster - it has been on the 3 the last two days.

KU52 YJY is also still here.

Quote from: Winston on January 03, 2014, 07:43:03 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 03, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
W572 JVV is now operating from Kidderminster - it has been on the 3 the last two days.

KU52 YJY is also still here.

Has the size of the KR allocation allocation increased again? There seems to be more buses going in than leaving

Quote from: Winston on January 03, 2014, 07:43:03 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 03, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
W572 JVV is now operating from Kidderminster - it has been on the 3 the last two days.

KU52 YJY is also still here.

Has the size of the KR allocation allocation increased again? There seems to be more buses going in than leaving

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

Quote from: StourportSam on January 05, 2014, 06:18:36 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 03, 2014, 07:43:03 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 03, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
W572 JVV is now operating from Kidderminster - it has been on the 3 the last two days.

KU52 YJY is also still here.

Has the size of the KR allocation allocation increased again? There seems to be more buses going in than leaving

There appears to be about 3 or 4 darts parked up VOR at the moment!

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 06, 2014, 01:28:15 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 05, 2014, 06:18:36 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 03, 2014, 07:43:03 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 03, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
W572 JVV is now operating from Kidderminster - it has been on the 3 the last two days.

KU52 YJY is also still here.

Has the size of the KR allocation allocation increased again? There seems to be more buses going in than leaving

There appears to be about 3 or 4 darts parked up VOR at the moment!

Think it is the fact that V383SVV is not yet in service, T418MNH is in for paint, R455CCV has been sold and the eclipse has gone back to Redditch hence a vehicle shortage which Redditch has helped to solve

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

Quote from: StourportSam on January 06, 2014, 04:44:05 PM

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

I meant as well as the first two.
From my observations, the following are VOR at KR currently:

R455 CCV
R503 CNP
R954 JYS
V383 SVV
V388 SVV
T74 JBA
MPD
Full size Dart

Quote from: StourportSam on January 06, 2014, 04:44:05 PM

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

I meant as well as the first two.
From my observations, the following are VOR at KR currently:

R455 CCV
R503 CNP
R954 JYS
V383 SVV
V388 SVV
T74 JBA
MPD
Full size Dart

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 06, 2014, 05:07:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 06, 2014, 04:44:05 PM

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

I meant as well as the first two.
From my observations, the following are VOR at KR currently:

R455 CCV
R503 CNP
R954 JYS
V383 SVV
V388 SVV
T74 JBA
MPD
Full size Dart

Sam

Has R455CCV not left yet?
What livery is V383SVV in and does it look complete?
What livery is the "full size dart" you mention in?
Is the MPD a HEC one or another?

Thanks

Quote from: StourportSam on January 07, 2014, 07:12:20 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 06, 2014, 05:07:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 06, 2014, 04:44:05 PM

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

I meant as well as the first two.
From my observations, the following are VOR at KR currently:

R455 CCV
R503 CNP
R954 JYS
V383 SVV
V388 SVV
T74 JBA
MPD
Full size Dart

Sam

Has R455CCV not left yet?
What livery is V383SVV in and does it look complete?
What livery is the "full size dart" you mention in?
Is the MPD a HEC one or another?

Thanks

Peter,

Managed to have a look whilst my bus went slowly past the depot this morning!
R455 CCV and R503 CNP are still there.
V383 SVV - I couldn't see properly and it might have been 382, but if it is 383 complete and with standard Diamond blue full vinyls.
The "full size dart" is KU52 RYN in standard Diamond, VOR in windscreen.
The "MPD" is V654 HEC, again VOR in windscreen.

Also, you may be interested to know that 30445 (T418 MNH) was operating on the 3 yesterday, still in Diamond red and white!

Quote from: StourportSam on January 07, 2014, 07:12:20 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 06, 2014, 05:07:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 06, 2014, 04:44:05 PM

Quote from: Will on January 05, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
They are likely to be the following vehicles:

1) R455 CCV
2) R954 JYS
3) V383 SVV
4) V388 SVV

I meant as well as the first two.
From my observations, the following are VOR at KR currently:

R455 CCV
R503 CNP
R954 JYS
V383 SVV
V388 SVV
T74 JBA
MPD
Full size Dart

Sam

Has R455CCV not left yet?
What livery is V383SVV in and does it look complete?
What livery is the "full size dart" you mention in?
Is the MPD a HEC one or another?

Thanks

Peter,

Managed to have a look whilst my bus went slowly past the depot this morning!
R455 CCV and R503 CNP are still there.
V383 SVV - I couldn't see properly and it might have been 382, but if it is 383 complete and with standard Diamond blue full vinyls.
The "full size dart" is KU52 RYN in standard Diamond, VOR in windscreen.
The "MPD" is V654 HEC, again VOR in windscreen.

Also, you may be interested to know that 30445 (T418 MNH) was operating on the 3 yesterday, still in Diamond red and white!

Quote from: StourportSam on January 10, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
KU52 RYH operating on the 3 this morning* (in black, with Standard Diamond logos)

*[EDIT - and this afternoon]

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 10, 2014, 10:12:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 10, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
KU52 RYH operating on the 3 this morning* (in black, with Standard Diamond logos)

*[EDIT - and this afternoon]

That is unusual though a brilliant bus

Quote from: bewminster on January 10, 2014, 10:22:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 10, 2014, 10:12:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 10, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
KU52 RYH operating on the 3 this morning* (in black, with Standard Diamond logos)

*[EDIT - and this afternoon]

That is unusual though a brilliant bus

is this 20849 saw a black diamond  on the 3 today but did not get reg fully

Quote from: bewminster on January 10, 2014, 10:22:13 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 10, 2014, 10:12:02 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 10, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
KU52 RYH operating on the 3 this morning* (in black, with Standard Diamond logos)

*[EDIT - and this afternoon]

That is unusual though a brilliant bus

is this 20849 saw a black diamond  on the 3 today but did not get reg fully

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:22:03 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

The 3/X3 is usually anything operating from Kidderminster, there's no real set pattern.
The two YJ06 solos at Kidderminster are usually used on the 3.
More recently, MPDs have become common on the 3/X3, as that's what Kidderminster has a lot of.

I think I've probably seen all of Kidderminster's allocation operating the 3/X3 over the past month.

On Sundays, the routes are operated from Redditch depot, which usually produces Enviro 300s.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:22:03 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

The 3/X3 is usually anything operating from Kidderminster, there's no real set pattern.
The two YJ06 solos at Kidderminster are usually used on the 3.
More recently, MPDs have become common on the 3/X3, as that's what Kidderminster has a lot of.

I think I've probably seen all of Kidderminster's allocation operating the 3/X3 over the past month.

On Sundays, the routes are operated from Redditch depot, which usually produces Enviro 300s.

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:26:40 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:22:03 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

The 3/X3 is usually anything operating from Kidderminster, there's no real set pattern.
The two YJ06 solos at Kidderminster are usually used on the 3.
More recently, MPDs have become common on the 3/X3, as that's what Kidderminster has a lot of.

I think I've probably seen all of Kidderminster's allocation operating the 3/X3 over the past month.

On Sundays, the routes are operated from Redditch depot, which usually produces Enviro 300s.

Cheers! I would imagine it's quite busy between Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings with both Diamond and Whittle operating the corridor

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 06:36:52 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:26:40 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:22:03 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

The 3/X3 is usually anything operating from Kidderminster, there's no real set pattern.
The two YJ06 solos at Kidderminster are usually used on the 3.
More recently, MPDs have become common on the 3/X3, as that's what Kidderminster has a lot of.

I think I've probably seen all of Kidderminster's allocation operating the 3/X3 over the past month.

On Sundays, the routes are operated from Redditch depot, which usually produces Enviro 300s.

Cheers! I would imagine it's quite busy between Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings with both Diamond and Whittle operating the corridor

Yes it is. I would say having been over there several times Diamond are slightly busier but whittles do ok on there to say it is a fairly new route

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:46:46 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 06:36:52 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:26:40 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:22:03 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 06:16:07 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 06:10:33 PM
3016x 63 plate streetlite operating 3/X3 in Kidderminster today.

Perhaps Kidderminster might see some of these transferred across - in about 10 years!

What's normally on the 3/X3, is it MPDs?

The 3/X3 is usually anything operating from Kidderminster, there's no real set pattern.
The two YJ06 solos at Kidderminster are usually used on the 3.
More recently, MPDs have become common on the 3/X3, as that's what Kidderminster has a lot of.

I think I've probably seen all of Kidderminster's allocation operating the 3/X3 over the past month.

On Sundays, the routes are operated from Redditch depot, which usually produces Enviro 300s.

Cheers! I would imagine it's quite busy between Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings with both Diamond and Whittle operating the corridor

Yes it is. I would say having been over there several times Diamond are slightly busier but whittles do ok on there to say it is a fairly new route

New route?

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 12, 2014, 07:25:12 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Ah, yes I thought that's what you meant.

In fact, Whittle have operated the 3 for many years before (I don't know how long) with the route being reduced to off-peak in April 2010 and then withdrawn in September 2011. It was then re-introduced in October 2012, presumably an attempt by cash-strapped Whittle to make a profit.

Whittle also operated the 16, which used to run from Kidderminster Rail Station to Areley Kings until about 2007 I think, but that's as much as I know.

Whittle as a company are much better known in the Wyre Forest than Diamond, dating back to 1929 in Highley. Many people hated First so Diamond has done well to rebuild a good reputation for the operation, but it is still a new operator for many local bus users.

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

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Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:30:10 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Thanks. I know it is slightly off topic but is the Arriva Wolverhampton booklet available somewhere other than Wolverhampton?

Quote from: John on January 12, 2014, 09:31:40 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:30:10 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Thanks. I know it is slightly off topic but is the Arriva Wolverhampton booklet available somewhere other than Wolverhampton?

You might be able to get one in Walsall. They usually have all 3 booklets for the West Midlands

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 09:28:13 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

do not go by timetables on whittles site then as the timetable have changed and not been altered on there site go to this link on the WCC web site
http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/bus/timetables.aspx (http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/bus/timetables.aspx). the latest times are  on there

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:45:36 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 09:28:13 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

do not go by timetables on whittles site then as the timetable have changed and not been altered on there site go to this link on the WCC web site
http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/bus/timetables.aspx (http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/bus/timetables.aspx). the latest times are  on there

Are the timetables on the NWM site accurate?

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:34:59 PM

Quote from: John on January 12, 2014, 09:31:40 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:30:10 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:10:00 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:06:19 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 09:04:31 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

I picked mine up from Stourbridge Interchange a while back, last time I looked I think it was the same one but will check next time I go there

Oh right, that wasn't where I got mine from. Mine was from the 192 bus but if it were in Stourbridge bus station it would be more helpful. Hopefully will check tomorrow.

Yeah, it was in the racks of leaflets between the 142 stand and the lift.

I have never been on a Whittle bus myself, but hope to change that next Saturday...

Thanks. I know it is slightly off topic but is the Arriva Wolverhampton booklet available somewhere other than Wolverhampton?

You might be able to get one in Walsall. They usually have all 3 booklets for the West Midlands

Thanks John I'll ask tomorrow :) Bringing it back to topic, did diamond ever make their new 301 timetable available in Walsall or not? Anyone seen it?

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 09:03:22 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 12, 2014, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: bewminster on January 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 12, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Has it? I was under the impression whittles only started on there from 15th October 2012 so for them it is a fairly new route.

Whittles did run on  it for a while before that  date , they restarted on it  then think  they started on it when the finished the 16,

I have a Whittle brochure which states that the 3 service was reintroduced on 15th October 2012, at the same time as the introduction of the 2C and the withdrawal of the 11

Must be same leaflet I have-wonder if whittles have a new one out now? I haven't seen one...

Quote from: Will on January 14, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
I have it on good authority (my mate - he went passed the bus station today) and according to him R503 CNP has departed Kidderminster once and for all although it's mysterious as R455 CCV is still parked up  just seems odd how one has gone but the other hasn't.

On another subject my mate was waiting for the bus last night and apparantly W905 JNF wouldn't start (he reckoned it was the battery as he heard a clicking sound I've not seen it in service today either so I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere else or not.

Quote from: Will on January 14, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
I have it on good authority (my mate - he went passed the bus station today) and according to him R503 CNP has departed Kidderminster once and for all although it's mysterious as R455 CCV is still parked up  just seems odd how one has gone but the other hasn't.

On another subject my mate was waiting for the bus last night and apparantly W905 JNF wouldn't start (he reckoned it was the battery as he heard a clicking sound I've not seen it in service today either so I don't know if it's been mentioned anywhere else or not.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 16, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
31507 / R455 CCV / 42455
Has now left Kidderminster - for good.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 18, 2014, 10:03:46 PM
X372 CUY on the 3 in Stourport today.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 20, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
X372 CUY has now joined the line up of VOR vehicles.

Diamond liveried plaxton centre on the 3 today. I think the reg was YN08 NXL. Destination display was not working correctly and had a paper number in windscreen.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

I hope Tividale aren't loosing those permanently to KR.

It would have been nice to see Rotala buy some more of the ex Transdev B7RLE for sale at Southdown PSV and some of those to be allocated to KR to upgrade the 3/X3. But it doesn't sound likely as someone else has beat Simon to them

Quote from: bowler on January 21, 2014, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

I hope Tividale aren't loosing those permanently to KR.

It would have been nice to see Rotala buy some more of the ex Transdev B7RLE for sale at Southdown PSV and some of those to be allocated to KR to upgrade the 3/X3. But it doesn't sound likely as someone else has beat Simon to them

I hope Tividale do lose  them has full size buses are needed for the  x3/3 and 303

Quote from: Will on January 17, 2014, 02:59:19 AM
It is indeed very sad that she has gone I guess all that really remains to say is goodnight (as far as we know) 31507/42455 and thank you for 16 years of loyal service (1997 - 2014)  :'(

Although it's not really goodbye as in a way her memory will live on in VX54 MUC/MUO/MUP so although she will no longer be in service at least her "spirit" will live on (...until such a time when Rotala decide to withdraw the 54 plate Darts in around 6/7 years time that is...)

Quote from: bowler on January 21, 2014, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

I hope Tividale aren't loosing those permanently to KR.

It would have been nice to see Rotala buy some more of the ex Transdev B7RLE for sale at Southdown PSV and some of those to be allocated to KR to upgrade the 3/X3. But it doesn't sound likely as someone else has beat Simon to them

I hope Tividale do lose  them has full size buses are needed for the  x3/3 and 303

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 05:33:30 PM

Quote from: bowler on January 21, 2014, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

I hope Tividale aren't loosing those permanently to KR.

It would have been nice to see Rotala buy some more of the ex Transdev B7RLE for sale at Southdown PSV and some of those to be allocated to KR to upgrade the 3/X3. But it doesn't sound likely as someone else has beat Simon to them

I hope Tividale do lose  them has full size buses are needed for the  x3/3 and 303

Tividale have a far greater need for their full size buses than Kidderminster. The problem at Kidderminster seems to be the high number of vehicles VOR and to be honest at Kidderminster, it would be better to try and up frequencies with the existing buses to improve service as opposed to introducing longer vehicles.

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 05:38:35 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 05:33:30 PM

Quote from: bowler on January 21, 2014, 11:23:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:13:09 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 21, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
Just gone past:

30406 YN08 NXL on the X3
30828 BX09 SNZ on the 3

Very unusual!

I hope Tividale aren't loosing those permanently to KR.

It would have been nice to see Rotala buy some more of the ex Transdev B7RLE for sale at Southdown PSV and some of those to be allocated to KR to upgrade the 3/X3. But it doesn't sound likely as someone else has beat Simon to them

I hope Tividale do lose  them has full size buses are needed for the  x3/3 and 303

Tividale have a far greater need for their full size buses than Kidderminster. The problem at Kidderminster seems to be the high number of vehicles VOR and to be honest at Kidderminster, it would be better to try and up frequencies with the existing buses to improve service as opposed to introducing longer vehicles.

Whilst I have no knowledge of the routes operated by Tividale and their frequencies or usage levels, I would probably agree that Tividale needs larger buses more than Kidderminster does. It's small fry compared to Birmingham and the West Midlands.
However, Kidderminster does need bigger buses, especially at peak times. I'm not sure passenger levels are high enough to increase the frequencies.

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:05:55 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

30406 was new as a 50 seater, it must have an extra row of seats/tighter seat pitches in it over a standard Centro which is normally 45 seats

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:16:27 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:05:55 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

30406 was new as a 50 seater, it must have an extra row of seats/tighter seat pitches in it over a standard Centro which is normally 45 seats

It is listed as a 45 seater in the fleetlist on this site but what you say makes good sense...

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:29:14 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:16:27 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:05:55 PM

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Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

30406 was new as a 50 seater, it must have an extra row of seats/tighter seat pitches in it over a standard Centro which is normally 45 seats

It is listed as a 45 seater in the fleetlist on this site but what you say makes good sense...

Bus lists on the web says otherwise
http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/index.htm?http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/list.asp?ListName=299&Type=Body&Page=16&WW=0

This photo also quotes it seating 50
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheltonian1966/7165487345/

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Sorry-one was reported at repaint. Maybe 30828 is at Kidderminster still in black. I was sure someone reported 30822 as repainted overall blue-at Redditch/Kidderminster.

Thanks for correcting me on that :)

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Sorry-one was reported at repaint. Maybe 30828 is at Kidderminster still in black. I was sure someone reported 30822 as repainted overall blue-at Redditch/Kidderminster.

Thanks for correcting me on that :)

Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 10:46:01 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Sorry-one was reported at repaint. Maybe 30828 is at Kidderminster still in black. I was sure someone reported 30822 as repainted overall blue-at Redditch/Kidderminster.

Thanks for correcting me on that :)

I'm pretty sure the resprayed Royal Centro was reported by Nathan4775 on a Tividale service (I think the 56) although I could be wrong

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Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 10:46:01 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Sorry-one was reported at repaint. Maybe 30828 is at Kidderminster still in black. I was sure someone reported 30822 as repainted overall blue-at Redditch/Kidderminster.

Thanks for correcting me on that :)

I'm pretty sure the resprayed Royal Centro was reported by Nathan4775 on a Tividale service (I think the 56) although I could be wrong

Thanks for that-can't seem to find the original post though?

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:42:51 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Re-sprayed? nope it's still in Black Diamond livery - DiamondDart although I imagine that if it does stay in Kidderminster it will most probably be sprayed into Blue

Sorry-one was reported at repaint. Maybe 30828 is at Kidderminster still in black. I was sure someone reported 30822 as repainted overall blue-at Redditch/Kidderminster.

Thanks for correcting me on that :)

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
That link takes me to mid 2012 but think I have set it up with more posts per page so it doesn't work as well...

I imagine the gist of it was that it was on the 56?

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 11:15:17 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
That link takes me to mid 2012 but think I have set it up with more posts per page so it doesn't work as well...

I imagine the gist of it was that it was on the 56?

It takes me to page 100, just double checked

It was on the 56, only reg quoted

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:33:06 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:29:14 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:16:27 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:05:55 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

30406 was new as a 50 seater, it must have an extra row of seats/tighter seat pitches in it over a standard Centro which is normally 45 seats

It is listed as a 45 seater in the fleetlist on this site but what you say makes good sense...

Bus lists on the web says otherwise
http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/index.htm?http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/list.asp?ListName=299&Type=Body&Page=16&WW=0

This photo also quotes it seating 50
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheltonian1966/7165487345/

Thanks for that info-bus lists on the web is usually very accurate as it uses lists from Plaxton etc so I'll trust that...

Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2014, 09:42:42 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:33:06 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:29:14 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 10:16:27 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2014, 10:05:55 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2014, 09:42:20 PM

Quote from: Will on January 21, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
I am deeply in love with 30828 she is absolutely beautiful I made myself take a ride to Stourport just because I wanted a ride on it! I hope she's staying in KR she is a very much needed asset to KR I must say the 08 plate isn't as luxurious as 828 however I'm yet to take a ride on it so until I do I can't compare

Glad you like the royale centro-they are fantastic buses. Out of interest, during its repaint, has it had aspects of the interior deep cleaned and out of date notices removed?

YN08NXL is comfortable enough and in very good condition with few rattles but the seating is a bit tight and there is less legroom than on other centros. Nice high backed seats though and would be good for something like Private Hire

30406 was new as a 50 seater, it must have an extra row of seats/tighter seat pitches in it over a standard Centro which is normally 45 seats

It is listed as a 45 seater in the fleetlist on this site but what you say makes good sense...

Bus lists on the web says otherwise
http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/index.htm?http://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/list.asp?ListName=299&Type=Body&Page=16&WW=0

This photo also quotes it seating 50
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheltonian1966/7165487345/

Thanks for that info-bus lists on the web is usually very accurate as it uses lists from Plaxton etc so I'll trust that...

PSV Circle have always recorded it as B45F with Alton Towers & Go Goodwins. Rotala currenly list it as a 45 seater and I suspect they know how many seats are in there own buses

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Another Black Diamond Dart SLF noticed parked up at Kidderminster today. It was a full size one and from what I saw of the reg appears to be 30439 W567 JVV

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 06:11:10 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Another Black Diamond Dart SLF noticed parked up at Kidderminster today. It was a full size one and from what I saw of the reg appears to be 30439 W567 JVV

Sam,

Are the Black Diamond B7RLE/Centro's still there as well?

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 08:06:30 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 06:11:10 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Another Black Diamond Dart SLF noticed parked up at Kidderminster today. It was a full size one and from what I saw of the reg appears to be 30439 W567 JVV

Sam,

Are the Black Diamond B7RLE/Centro's still there as well?

Winston,
I did wonder this myself and had a good look as my bus went round the roundabout. Its handy on a Sunday to look as the depot is closed with no workings. I could not see any Centros, just darts and the three solos.
The Centros must have either gone home to Redditch/Tividale or are inside the depot.
Hope this helps.

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 08:06:30 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 06:11:10 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Another Black Diamond Dart SLF noticed parked up at Kidderminster today. It was a full size one and from what I saw of the reg appears to be 30439 W567 JVV

Sam,

Are the Black Diamond B7RLE/Centro's still there as well?

Winston,
I did wonder this myself and had a good look as my bus went round the roundabout. Its handy on a Sunday to look as the depot is closed with no workings. I could not see any Centros, just darts and the three solos.
The Centros must have either gone home to Redditch/Tividale or are inside the depot.
Hope this helps.

Cheers Sam,

I would have thought Tividale would have been better loaning KR Darts than Centro's anyway to keep in with the existing fleet

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 08:47:27 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 08:06:30 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2014, 06:11:10 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 26, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Another Black Diamond Dart SLF noticed parked up at Kidderminster today. It was a full size one and from what I saw of the reg appears to be 30439 W567 JVV

Sam,

Are the Black Diamond B7RLE/Centro's still there as well?

Winston,
I did wonder this myself and had a good look as my bus went round the roundabout. Its handy on a Sunday to look as the depot is closed with no workings. I could not see any Centros, just darts and the three solos.
The Centros must have either gone home to Redditch/Tividale or are inside the depot.
Hope this helps.

Cheers Sam,

I would have thought Tividale would have been better loaning KR Darts than Centro's anyway to keep in with the existing fleet

Yes I agree completely. I think the Kidderminster operation is more suited to Darts than Centres, which I should think are much better deployed from Tividale.

That said, there are the three odd Solos that don't fit in with the extended Dart family at Kidderminster.

Quote from: Will on January 28, 2014, 03:59:32 PM
Anyone know why (30500, MW52 PZR) is off the road?

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

So less stuff VOR at Kidderminster should hopefully mean YN08NXL can go back to Tividale fairly soon.

What kind of trim/colour is it? Ex first or the rotala standard with the interlinked rotala r symbol in red or blue?

30 seems like a good load! But able to be fitted into a full length dart fairly easily so I reckon more of those are what is needed to try and keep costs down. Brilliant bus though I reckon Tividale need it back for services like the 002/4/4H/301/202/56 as there really is a shortage of longer vehicles.

Thanks for the update Sam

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 09:52:26 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

So less stuff VOR at Kidderminster should hopefully mean YN08NXL can go back to Tividale fairly soon.

What kind of trim/colour is it? Ex first or the rotala standard with the interlinked rotala r symbol in red or blue?

30 seems like a good load! But able to be fitted into a full length dart fairly easily so I reckon more of those are what is needed to try and keep costs down. Brilliant bus though I reckon Tividale need it back for services like the 002/4/4H/301/202/56 as there really is a shortage of longer vehicles.

Thanks for the update Sam

It was neither trim, it looks like a brighter version of the sort to be seen in T418 MNH, if you know what that's like?
I think the only buses with blue Rotala trim at Kidderminster are 30500 and 20847.

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 11:26:46 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 09:52:26 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

So less stuff VOR at Kidderminster should hopefully mean YN08NXL can go back to Tividale fairly soon.

What kind of trim/colour is it? Ex first or the rotala standard with the interlinked rotala r symbol in red or blue?

30 seems like a good load! But able to be fitted into a full length dart fairly easily so I reckon more of those are what is needed to try and keep costs down. Brilliant bus though I reckon Tividale need it back for services like the 002/4/4H/301/202/56 as there really is a shortage of longer vehicles.

Thanks for the update Sam

It was neither trim, it looks like a brighter version of the sort to be seen in T418 MNH, if you know what that's like?
I think the only buses with blue Rotala trim at Kidderminster are 30500 and 20847.

oh right... great to see some standardisation then lol. I do know 30445s interior well and thanks for the update though isnt 20847 in yourbus trim the sort of weird red with shapes on? know other members of the batch have this pattern?

Quote from: StourportSam on January 29, 2014, 05:54:40 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 11:26:46 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 09:52:26 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

So less stuff VOR at Kidderminster should hopefully mean YN08NXL can go back to Tividale fairly soon.

What kind of trim/colour is it? Ex first or the rotala standard with the interlinked rotala r symbol in red or blue?

30 seems like a good load! But able to be fitted into a full length dart fairly easily so I reckon more of those are what is needed to try and keep costs down. Brilliant bus though I reckon Tividale need it back for services like the 002/4/4H/301/202/56 as there really is a shortage of longer vehicles.

Thanks for the update Sam

It was neither trim, it looks like a brighter version of the sort to be seen in T418 MNH, if you know what that's like?
I think the only buses with blue Rotala trim at Kidderminster are 30500 and 20847.

oh right... great to see some standardisation then lol. I do know 30445s interior well and thanks for the update though isnt 20847 in yourbus trim the sort of weird red with shapes on? know other members of the batch have this pattern?

I think you might be confusing 20847 with 20848 and so on, the KU52 ex Yourbus darts which do have the red trim.
20847 is YG02 DJZ the small optare solo owned at one point by First group.

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 29, 2014, 06:15:04 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 29, 2014, 05:54:40 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 11:26:46 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 09:52:26 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 28, 2014, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on January 28, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
V38* SVV has disappeared from the VOR line up at Kidderminster, leaving just KU52 RYN which presumably still has missing documents!

V658 HEC has had new trim on some 6 seats at the front, in a completely different style, making the bus look brighter but mismatched.

YN08 NXL was again operating from Kidderminster today. It was on the 3 which gave me by chance my first ride on a Plaxton Centro. Having been on this vehicle which was carrying some 30 people at the time (and yes, I counted the seats there are indeed 45!!) it is exactly what the 3/X3 need as this is just a modern Dennis Lance. So sorry Tividale I think Kidderminster should keep this one (although that's very unlikely)!

YJ06 YPU was VOR at the weekend, chained up in the bay by the side of the garages.

* = 2 or 3, never did get a chance to confirm which one it was...

So less stuff VOR at Kidderminster should hopefully mean YN08NXL can go back to Tividale fairly soon.

What kind of trim/colour is it? Ex first or the rotala standard with the interlinked rotala r symbol in red or blue?

30 seems like a good load! But able to be fitted into a full length dart fairly easily so I reckon more of those are what is needed to try and keep costs down. Brilliant bus though I reckon Tividale need it back for services like the 002/4/4H/301/202/56 as there really is a shortage of longer vehicles.

Thanks for the update Sam

It was neither trim, it looks like a brighter version of the sort to be seen in T418 MNH, if you know what that's like?
I think the only buses with blue Rotala trim at Kidderminster are 30500 and 20847.

oh right... great to see some standardisation then lol. I do know 30445s interior well and thanks for the update though isnt 20847 in yourbus trim the sort of weird red with shapes on? know other members of the batch have this pattern?

I think you might be confusing 20847 with 20848 and so on, the KU52 ex Yourbus darts which do have the red trim.
20847 is YG02 DJZ the small optare solo owned at one point by First group.

Sorry, so it is...

Quote from: StourportSam on January 29, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Another bus has appeared VOR next to KU52 RYN at Kidderminster. It looked to be an X-AKW reg but cannot be sure (It was in standard Diamond blue with logos). I will try and have a look tomorrow.

It was a Plaxton Pointer SLF Dart.

Quote from: jc on January 30, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
30636 in service from Redditch today in Blue Diamond livery if thats relevant to you at all?

Quote from: DiamondDart on January 30, 2014, 11:44:34 AM

Quote from: jc on January 30, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
30636 in service from Redditch today in Blue Diamond livery if thats relevant to you at all?

It is thanks jc. it either means it was 30636 at Kidderminster having a short term issue resolved and therefore is no longer at Kidderminster or it means that 30636 was never there and it was 30637 over from Long Acre which seems unlikely or it is another x   akw dart that has come back off loan from another company? Was it in blue diamond livery ot DIAMOND livery put of interest Sam?

Quote from: Will on January 30, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
I had to go to a meeting at the bus depot this afternoon and when I left I purposely went and had a look to see what buses were VOR and they were

1) KU52 RYN (still!)
2) YJ06 YPU

And that's it... Suprising really when a few weeks back there were about 3/4 vehicles "VOR" but now there's only 2!

Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Tony's latest picture of 20854 paints a good picture of the need for bigger buses on the X3

http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/20854.html

Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Tony's latest picture of 20854 paints a good picture of the need for bigger buses on the X3

http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/20854.html

There were actually more passengers than that. That photograph was taken while it was failing to start. An engineer appeared in the service van to jump start it, and when it did leave other passengers who were waiting off the bus got on and it left with about 8 standing

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 12:39:36 PM

Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Tony's latest picture of 20854 paints a good picture of the need for bigger buses on the X3

http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/20854.html

There were actually more passengers than that. That photograph was taken while it was failing to start. An engineer appeared in the service van to jump start it, and when it did leave other passengers who were waiting off the bus got on and it left with about 8 standing

From your obs, it definitely suggests that higher quality / full size buses would make a big impact / increase carrying capacity of the route, shame no more of the ex Transdev B7RLE are available. I'd have though that the X3 must be one of KR's profitable routes with those kind of loadings

Quote from: DiamondDart on February 09, 2014, 12:46:17 PM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 12:39:36 PM

Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Tony's latest picture of 20854 paints a good picture of the need for bigger buses on the X3

http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/20854.html

There were actually more passengers than that. That photograph was taken while it was failing to start. An engineer appeared in the service van to jump start it, and when it did leave other passengers who were waiting off the bus got on and it left with about 8 standing

From your obs, it definitely suggests that higher quality / full size buses would make a big impact / increase carrying capacity of the route, shame no more of the ex Transdev B7RLE are available. I'd have though that the X3 must be one of KR's profitable routes with those kind of loadings

I agree about bigger buses being needed. Personally I feel Kidderminster has far far too many MPDs but having said that there are a fair few full size darts there so why aren't they being used on the X3? Hopefully things will change with the implementation of the network review but the X3 is mostly OAPs on a long route so may not actually be that profitable...

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on February 09, 2014, 12:46:17 PM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 12:39:36 PM

Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Tony's latest picture of 20854 paints a good picture of the need for bigger buses on the X3

http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/20854.html

There were actually more passengers than that. That photograph was taken while it was failing to start. An engineer appeared in the service van to jump start it, and when it did leave other passengers who were waiting off the bus got on and it left with about 8 standing

From your obs, it definitely suggests that higher quality / full size buses would make a big impact / increase carrying capacity of the route, shame no more of the ex Transdev B7RLE are available. I'd have though that the X3 must be one of KR's profitable routes with those kind of loadings

I agree about bigger buses being needed. Personally I feel Kidderminster has far far too many MPDs but having said that there are a fair few full size darts there so why aren't they being used on the X3? Hopefully things will change with the implementation of the network review but the X3 is mostly OAPs on a long route so may not actually be that profitable...

A cramped MPD with Urban 90 seats would certainly discourage potentially new passengers using the route.
The other alternative may be whether the frequency of the X3 could be increased to try and grow patronage along the route and smaller buses could still be utilized in the interim.

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 01:27:41 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

I think some would as I think Kidder do all eye ops in the county, plus its handy to people who have had to go to the alex to get to that side of kidder where they live.

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 01:27:41 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

I think some would as I think Kidder do all eye ops in the county, plus its handy to people who have had to go to the alex to get to that side of kidder where they live.

Quote from: bowler on February 10, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 01:27:41 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

I think some would as I think Kidder do all eye ops in the county, plus its handy to people who have had to go to the alex to get to that side of kidder where they live.

At one time the X3 used to terminate in Kidderminster hospital grounds and not go to Stourport  if I remember right it did not pick up or set down  between kiderminster and  the hospital  it used to run in to Redditch hospital as well.     I went to Redditch before xmas and between kidder  and Bromsgrove was busy but Bromsgrove to Redditch section  was even busier  do not think there is any need for it to  go to stourport
as with the 3/15/192/294/295  think there are enough , and if the x3  was routed as it was before through chadsley corbert    it would partly replace the 133 which is the busy section of the 133

Quote from: bowler on February 10, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
Winston
another route that could be developed more is the 295 if it ran via Burlish  in to stourport  as the 294 does (which is just 1 journey each way)
it would get more passangers  and get the burlish residents a better service it use to run that way before (in the x93/293) and more people
used it . and leave wilden with the 15 . they could conect with Worcester bus in kider. or stourport .

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

Quote from: StourportSam on February 10, 2014, 05:20:33 PM

Quote from: Winston on February 10, 2014, 01:13:36 AM

Quote from: tank90 on February 10, 2014, 12:49:51 AM

Quote from: Winston on February 09, 2014, 09:17:08 PM
Does anyone have any idea which are the busiest sections of the X3?

At the very least without any extra larger buses allocated to KR, KR should ensure that the X3 is always allocated full size Darts and the more frequent 3's MPD's if nothing bigger is available due to that routes higher frequency

Redditch to Bromsgrove is high due to it being quicker than the 142/143/145.
and i think the 3 section is high too.

Cheers Dan,
I wonder if there would be scope to curtail the X3 between Redditch & Kidderminster bus station only, enhance the frequency to half hourly, reliability would be increased due to it being a shorter route and not getting delayed around the Stourport area. Then have the existing 3's & a new 3A once an hour to cover the Kidderminster General Hospital section previously covered by the X3.

I can't really see many passengers traveling right through from Redditch to The Walshes, would many people from Redditch or Bromsgrove be inconvenienced if they lost a direct link to Kidderminster General hospital?

People from Redditch and Bromsgrove are not going to travel right through to a large housing estate in Stourport, but think of it the other way around. There are certainly a lot of people from Areley Kings/Stourport who use the X3 to travel to Bromsgrove and Redditch, even on Sundays. There must be a reason First extended the 333/334 to Stourport!

I overheard Diamond drivers some time ago saying Diamond were looking to remove the hospital diversion on the X3. That is the part that causes the most delays, not Stourport, with standstill traffic the norm between the hospital and first ring road roundabout.

Quote from: bowler on February 10, 2014, 07:26:25 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on February 10, 2014, 05:20:33 PM

People from Redditch and Bromsgrove are not going to travel right through to a large housing estate in Stourport, but think of it the other way around. There are certainly a lot of people from Areley Kings/Stourport who use the X3 to travel to Bromsgrove and Redditch, even on Sundays. There must be a reason First extended the 333/334 to Stourport!

I overheard Diamond drivers some time ago saying Diamond were looking to remove the hospital diversion on the X3. That is the part that causes the most delays, not Stourport, with standstill traffic the norm between the hospital and first ring road roundabout.

the 333 never went to stourport on a sunday  when it arrived in Kidderminster it changed to the 300 kiderminster Worcester hospital via bewdley and stouport . there was the 3 Kidderminster rail station to stourport which was a redditich depot working on a sunday.

and when the x 3  first started it used to finish in Kidderminster hospital grounds ,do not know why the extend  to stourport as there are enough buses to stourport
And as for lots of people traveling on the 333/ 300  service  on a sunday  which  I used every sunday  there  where never more than about 18 to 24 people using it  . there where  more on the sunday 292  service  my travels on the 333/300 192/292 services on sundays go back to the days of kesterel coaches woodstone coaches petes travel and whittles and centeral connect

Quote from: StourportSam on February 10, 2014, 08:30:33 PM

Quote from: bowler on February 10, 2014, 07:26:25 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on February 10, 2014, 05:20:33 PM

People from Redditch and Bromsgrove are not going to travel right through to a large housing estate in Stourport, but think of it the other way around. There are certainly a lot of people from Areley Kings/Stourport who use the X3 to travel to Bromsgrove and Redditch, even on Sundays. There must be a reason First extended the 333/334 to Stourport!

I overheard Diamond drivers some time ago saying Diamond were looking to remove the hospital diversion on the X3. That is the part that causes the most delays, not Stourport, with standstill traffic the norm between the hospital and first ring road roundabout.

the 333 never went to stourport on a sunday  when it arrived in Kidderminster it changed to the 300 kiderminster Worcester hospital via bewdley and stouport . there was the 3 Kidderminster rail station to stourport which was a redditich depot working on a sunday.

and when the x 3  first started it used to finish in Kidderminster hospital grounds ,do not know why the extend  to stourport as there are enough buses to stourport
And as for lots of people traveling on the 333/ 300  service  on a sunday  which  I used every sunday  there  where never more than about 18 to 24 people using it  . there where  more on the sunday 292  service  my travels on the 333/300 192/292 services on sundays go back to the days of kesterel coaches woodstone coaches petes travel and whittles and centeral connect

I didn't say the 333 went to Stourport on Sundays. I thought it was replaced from 2011 with the service we have now. I don't just mean Sundays, I meant every day. Wasn't the 334 the service Kidderminster - Redditch before the X3 was introduced? The number X3 implies it was a continuation to Bromsgrove/Redditch of the 3.
What I meant was replacing the 333/334 with the X3 back around, I don't know, 2008 or whenever it was. I only started using buses regularly in 2007 and take an interest in them from about 2011 onwards so don't know much about before that. 18 to 24 people using it at one time sounds OK for a Sunday service, if people need it to get to work etc. as I do on a Sunday with the 3. I use this service every week and the bus (usually a 45 seater) is healthily filled. That's why Diamond/First can afford to run it on a commercial basis. If you don't know why the 334 was extended into the X3, it was obviously to provide [direct] links to Kidderminster hospital and Bromsgrove/Redditch from Stourport. I never used the service myself but from the timetables I have for the 300 it looks like it would have been very underused and loss making with the route it took/times it operated.

Quote from: Will on February 14, 2014, 03:36:53 PM
Vehicles still currently V.O.R at Kidderminster...

1) S405 JUA - Removed off fleet (according to Simon Dunn), no reason as to why he has decided to pull it out of service but it makes me wonder if this will be withdrawn at some stage
2) KU52 RYN - Document issues STILL!! (currently SORNED)
3) YJ06 YPU - Optare Solo (under repair apparently), I didn't even know it was broke!

To my knowledge they are currently the only vehicles that are off the road

Quote from: Will on March 03, 2014, 11:00:46 PM
Nope no idea mate are you sure KU52 has gone? As I do know that last week it was parked over the other side of the yard (it's not really visible from the road), as for S405 well according to Simon that has been removed from the fleet (he hasn't said why) I honestly believe that it will be permanently withdrawn and sold and as for YJ06 my mate saw a mechanic working on it the other day but it hasn't returned to service so god only knows where it is

Quote from: Will on March 04, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
God knows but my theory is that YJ06 will just suddenly re-appear back in service one of the days and the same goes for  KU52 but as for S405 I invisage that being transferred back to either Redditch (where it was before it came to Kiddy) or back to it's original "home" in Birmingham either one of the 2 we'll have to wait and see (or hear) what happens I asked Simon on here about 5-6 days ago as to what was going on with these said vehicles but low and behold I'm STILL waiting for a reply therefore we have no choice but to assume the answers...

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Kidderminster Update

V266 BNV appears to have returned to Redditch

All buses are now Diamond blue apart from T418 MNH, X372 CUY, T71 JBA and VX54 MUC/O

A VOR lineup of four buses has appeared over the past few days again, from left to right:
S405 JUA
V383 SVV - I have never actually seen this in service at Kidderminster?
KU52 RYN
MV54 EEO - a very recent transfer?

V654 HEC is in service and not VOR as reported in another thread

There was no sign of any of the three solos today when I walked around the depot today (and by around I mean on the public path outside the boundary fence!!) So the solos have either departed or were inside the garage.

W361 ABD is listed on the fleetlist as Kidderminster, but has never been and is not here...

Sam

Quote from: bowler on March 09, 2014, 08:21:29 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Kidderminster Update

V266 BNV appears to have returned to Redditch

All buses are now Diamond blue apart from T418 MNH, X372 CUY, T71 JBA and VX54 MUC/O

A VOR lineup of four buses has appeared over the past few days again, from left to right:
S405 JUA
V383 SVV - I have never actually seen this in service at Kidderminster?
KU52 RYN
MV54 EEO - a very recent transfer?

V654 HEC is in service and not VOR as reported in another thread

There was no sign of any of the three solos today when I walked around the depot today (and by around I mean on the public path outside the boundary fence!!) So the solos have either departed or were inside the garage.

W361 ABD is listed on the fleetlist as Kidderminster, but has never been and is not here...

Sam

Sam I have seen V 383 SVV in service here in kiddeminster and acctualy been on it

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 09:54:24 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 09, 2014, 08:21:29 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Kidderminster Update

V266 BNV appears to have returned to Redditch

All buses are now Diamond blue apart from T418 MNH, X372 CUY, T71 JBA and VX54 MUC/O

A VOR lineup of four buses has appeared over the past few days again, from left to right:
S405 JUA
V383 SVV - I have never actually seen this in service at Kidderminster?
KU52 RYN
MV54 EEO - a very recent transfer?

V654 HEC is in service and not VOR as reported in another thread

There was no sign of any of the three solos today when I walked around the depot today (and by around I mean on the public path outside the boundary fence!!) So the solos have either departed or were inside the garage.

W361 ABD is listed on the fleetlist as Kidderminster, but has never been and is not here...

Sam

Sam I have seen V 383 SVV in service here in kiddeminster and acctualy been on it

When was this Bowler, just out of interest?

Quote from: bowler on March 09, 2014, 10:22:25 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 09:54:24 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 09, 2014, 08:21:29 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 09, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
V383 SVV - I have never actually seen this in service at Kidderminster?

Sam I have seen V 383 SVV in service here in kiddeminster and acctualy been on it

When was this Bowler, just out of interest?

Wednesday of week just gone  and Thursday of week before

Quote from: jc on March 13, 2014, 12:38:44 PM
W361ABD may be at Redditch, its either that or 366, i keep seeing it but forgetting which it is.

Quote from: Will on March 19, 2014, 08:21:34 PM
Well I actually had my first ride on (20136, Y36 YVV) yesterday from Redditch back to Kidderminster & what
a bag of nails it is! I noticed one of the main doors moves when the vehicle is in motion (not at all safe in my opinion) I can see it happpening one of these days the door (that's loose) will end up detaching from the top hinge tbh by rights it should be V.O.R temporarily as it does need repairing apart from that little thing it goes like an absolute rocket

Quote from: StourportSam on March 14, 2014, 06:25:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

MV54 EEO is now in service, was on the 3 today.

Also saw 20136 on the 3 - in Blue Diamond livery but with the word blue removed.

S405 JUA has disappeared from the VOR line-up.

VX54 MUC is now VOR

A long solo has reappeared in the VOR line-up, probably YJ06 YPU but can't tell as the front bumper with reg no is missing.

Quote from: Will on March 19, 2014, 08:21:34 PM
Well I actually had my first ride on (20136, Y36 YVV) yesterday from Redditch back to Kidderminster & what
a bag of nails it is! I noticed one of the main doors moves when the vehicle is in motion (not at all safe in my opinion) I can see it happpening one of these days the door (that's loose) will end up detaching from the top hinge tbh by rights it should be V.O.R temporarily as it does need repairing apart from that little thing it goes like an absolute rocket

Quote from: Will on March 23, 2014, 12:21:29 AM
I think VX54 MUC has returned to service I'm positive I saw it go past my house today (22/03/14) doing the number 10 but I can't be sure has anyone seen it?

Quote from: John on March 23, 2014, 08:09:05 AM

Quote from: Will on March 23, 2014, 12:21:29 AM
I think VX54 MUC has returned to service I'm positive I saw it go past my house today (22/03/14) doing the number 10 but I can't be sure has anyone seen it?

Yes Will, it was out on the 10 yesterday, still in First livery

Quote from: DiamondDart on March 24, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Interesting about the vdl sb120 from Wessex-thanks for reporting that Will. I'll be interested to see if any more move up-would have thought they would fit in well at Tividale.

Quote from: DiamondDart on March 24, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Interesting about the vdl sb120 from Wessex-thanks for reporting that Will. I'll be interested to see if any more move up-would have thought they would fit in well at Tividale.

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

My Last Word on this Will  just because  you have not seen it . it does not mean it is a vehicle of the road, there are plenty I  have not seen  even in first's days but  I do not class them  as of the road.

Quote from: Will on March 25, 2014, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

My Last Word on this Will  just because  you have not seen it . it does not mean it is a vehicle of the road, there are plenty I  have not seen  even in first's days but  I do not class them  as of the road.

Well actually it isn't in service because if you bother to look at the DVLA website you will notice that V383 SVV is SORNED

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 02:59:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 25, 2014, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

My Last Word on this Will  just because  you have not seen it . it does not mean it is a vehicle of the road, there are plenty I  have not seen  even in first's days but  I do not class them  as of the road.

Well actually it isn't in service because if you bother to look at the DVLA website you will notice that V383 SVV is SORNED

Will done as you said  looked at dvla website  and you are correct in what you  say is shown on the site.but there is something
you missed on the page  that is the date the site was last updated  which is the following  Site Last Updated: 19/12/2013

Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2014, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 02:59:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 25, 2014, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

My Last Word on this Will  just because  you have not seen it . it does not mean it is a vehicle of the road, there are plenty I  have not seen  even in first's days but  I do not class them  as of the road.

Well actually it isn't in service because if you bother to look at the DVLA website you will notice that V383 SVV is SORNED

Will done as you said  looked at dvla website  and you are correct in what you  say is shown on the site.but there is something
you missed on the page  that is the date the site was last updated  which is the following  Site Last Updated: 19/12/2013

No, Will is correct, the data on the DVLA website is only a couple of days behind real life. The updated date is just last time changes were made to the general site

Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2014, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 02:59:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 25, 2014, 02:41:51 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 25, 2014, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 11:39:25 PM

Quote from: bowler on March 24, 2014, 11:07:54 PM

Quote from: Will on March 24, 2014, 01:30:19 AM
V.O.R line-up as of March 23, 2014:

1) 20851 - KU52 RYN (still V.O.R now off road since January)
2) 30007 - YJ07 JRV (a new addition from Wessex Connect still in Wessex Red/Silver livery)
3) 20639 - YJ06 YPU (still also V.O.R now been off road since mid-January front bumper still missing)
4) 30383 - V383 SVV (still also V.O.R now been out of service since December/January,  now parked up over the other side of the yard not really visible)

will  30383  V 383 SVV     has been in service since those dates you have put because I have been on it  at the being of this month .

Well I've not seen it..

My Last Word on this Will  just because  you have not seen it . it does not mean it is a vehicle of the road, there are plenty I  have not seen  even in first's days but  I do not class them  as of the road.

Well actually it isn't in service because if you bother to look at the DVLA website you will notice that V383 SVV is SORNED

Will done as you said  looked at dvla website  and you are correct in what you  say is shown on the site.but there is something
you missed on the page  that is the date the site was last updated  which is the following  Site Last Updated: 19/12/2013

No, Will is correct, the data on the DVLA website is only a couple of days behind real life. The updated date is just last time changes were made to the general site

Quote from: StourportSam on March 28, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Kidderminster Update

W904 JNF has arrived in Kidderminster, although not yet in use.

Quote from: StourportSam on March 30, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Kidderminster Update

T71 JBA is now VOR.

LG02 FFC has appeared, in black with no logos.

Quote from: bowler on March 30, 2014, 10:58:37 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 30, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Kidderminster Update

T71 JBA is now VOR.

LG02 FFC has appeared, in black with no logos.

Sam  just looked on the fleetlist page and  LG 02 FFC looks as if it as come down from tividale . think I caught site of 20851  in service yester day but to far away to say for certain

Quote from: StourportSam on March 30, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Kidderminster Update

T71 JBA is now VOR.

LG02 FFC has appeared, in black with no logos.

Quote from: DiamondDart on March 31, 2014, 02:15:05 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on March 30, 2014, 10:47:34 PM
Kidderminster Update

T71 JBA is now VOR.

LG02 FFC has appeared, in black with no logos.

Surprised FFC has been transferred in. I guess it must be to replace the solos transferred out and with the JNF's also to arrive, no doubt the days are numbered for old red diamond MPD's.

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:26:33 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Still using MPD's on the X3 as well  ::)

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:30:33 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:26:33 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Still using MPD's on the X3 as well  ::)

Well they won't listen to customer complaints mate and I guess until they do they will continue to use them on this route

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:35:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:30:33 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:26:33 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Still using MPD's on the X3 as well  ::)

Well they won't listen to customer complaints mate and I guess until they do they will continue to use them on this route

It seems not, surely logic would say keep the MPD's on the frequent town services & keep the bigger Darts for the longer distance routes

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:39:02 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:35:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:30:33 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:26:33 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Still using MPD's on the X3 as well  ::)

Well they won't listen to customer complaints mate and I guess until they do they will continue to use them on this route

It seems not, surely logic would say keep the MPD's on the frequent town services & keep the bigger Darts for the longer distance routes

Well precisely the number 4 & 5 routes don't get particularly busy so maybe they should use MPDs on those routes instead

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:44:12 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:39:02 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:35:17 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:30:33 PM

Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2014, 10:26:33 PM

Quote from: Will on March 31, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
I saw LG02 FFC going up Comberton Hill this afternoon on the X3 service and I'm afraid to say it didn't look healthy smoking like a train not a good start to it being in Kidderminster at all I can see it being V.O.R before much longer as it was black smoke not alot but enough

Still using MPD's on the X3 as well  ::)

Well they won't listen to customer complaints mate and I guess until they do they will continue to use them on this route

It seems not, surely logic would say keep the MPD's on the frequent town services & keep the bigger Darts for the longer distance routes

Well precisely the number 4 & 5 routes don't get particularly busy so maybe they should use MPDs on those routes instead

It's not exactly rocket science to make best use of the limited resources that you have by better vehicle allocations

Quote from: Will on April 01, 2014, 02:57:38 AM
Yes Sam this is exactly my point it used to be the same scenario when we had the Optare's here but now that both YG02 DJZ and YJ06 YPV have "set sail" they have been replaced by oh surprise surprise another MPD as you quoted Diamond need to wake up and smell the coffee and learn that they cannot put small buses on popular/busy routes although as I stated earlier on they'd rather ignore customer feedback and do what the hell they feel perhaps it's time we all wrote a strongly worded email John Gunn (Chairman of Rotala) as it is quite clear Simon isn't listening to customer complaints either

Quote from: bowler on April 01, 2014, 10:19:39 AM

Quote from: Will on April 01, 2014, 02:57:38 AM
Yes Sam this is exactly my point it used to be the same scenario when we had the Optare's here but now that both YG02 DJZ and YJ06 YPV have "set sail" they have been replaced by oh surprise surprise another MPD as you quoted Diamond need to wake up and smell the coffee and learn that they cannot put small buses on popular/busy routes although as I stated earlier on they'd rather ignore customer feedback and do what the hell they feel perhaps it's time we all wrote a strongly worded email John Gunn (Chairman of Rotala) as it is quite clear Simon isn't listening to customer complaints either

Will & Sam  think it would be better to either do the email  to or phone . as Mr Gunn would more than likely pass it back to diamond
Telephone: 0121 322 2222
Email: comments@diamondbuses.com

Quote from: jc on April 02, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
X3 fully big darted today V382/8 and a KU52

Quote from: Winston on April 02, 2014, 09:22:35 AM

Quote from: jc on April 02, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
X3 fully big darted today V382/8 and a KU52

There should be plenty of bigger Darts allocated to KR to enable that to happen on a daily basis, especially once V383SVV & W904JNF enter service

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Winston, in regards to the question you asked Sam yes indeed it is a VDL Centro although when I first saw it parked there I instantly thought it was the same make as YN08 NXL i.e. a Volvo and as for S405 JUA I personally haven't got a clue where that is the only place I can envisage it being currently is Long Acre where more than likely it is V.O.R but as you say 14 long Darts at Kidder absolutely marvellous but a couple more wouldn't do any harm

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:00:35 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Winston, in regards to the question you asked Sam yes indeed it is a VDL Centro although when I first saw it parked there I instantly thought it was the same make as YN08 NXL i.e. a Volvo and as for S405 JUA I personally haven't got a clue where that is the only place I can envisage it being currently is Long Acre where more than likely it is V.O.R but as you say 14 long Darts at Kidder absolutely marvellous but a couple more wouldn't do any harm

I wonder if the VDL/Centro is there for familiarization pending further examples moving North? A number of those would certainly boost the age profile of Diamonds KR allocation (which is now behind that of the competition) and would also add further larger buses to the allocation.

I expect KR may eventually have the bulk of the W9--JNF ALX200 bodies Darts as well

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 01:07:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:00:35 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Winston, in regards to the question you asked Sam yes indeed it is a VDL Centro although when I first saw it parked there I instantly thought it was the same make as YN08 NXL i.e. a Volvo and as for S405 JUA I personally haven't got a clue where that is the only place I can envisage it being currently is Long Acre where more than likely it is V.O.R but as you say 14 long Darts at Kidder absolutely marvellous but a couple more wouldn't do any harm

I wonder if the VDL/Centro is there for familiarization pending further examples moving North? A number of those would certainly boost the age profile of Diamonds KR allocation (which is now behind that of the competition) and would also add further larger buses to the allocation.

I expect KR may eventually have the bulk of the W9--JNF ALX200 bodies Darts as well

Hmm I don't know it's slightly mysterious how it suddenly appeared though what I can't figure out is why they don't send T71 JBA and X372 CUY back to Redditch and we have 2 Redditch buses in exchange for example KU52 RYK and MW52 PZP hmm MPDs for full size Darts yh I think that could work plus any remaining JNF's that are stood doing nothing

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:12:21 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 01:07:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:00:35 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Winston, in regards to the question you asked Sam yes indeed it is a VDL Centro although when I first saw it parked there I instantly thought it was the same make as YN08 NXL i.e. a Volvo and as for S405 JUA I personally haven't got a clue where that is the only place I can envisage it being currently is Long Acre where more than likely it is V.O.R but as you say 14 long Darts at Kidder absolutely marvellous but a couple more wouldn't do any harm

I wonder if the VDL/Centro is there for familiarization pending further examples moving North? A number of those would certainly boost the age profile of Diamonds KR allocation (which is now behind that of the competition) and would also add further larger buses to the allocation.

I expect KR may eventually have the bulk of the W9--JNF ALX200 bodies Darts as well

Hmm I don't know it's slightly mysterious how it suddenly appeared though what I can't figure out is why they don't send T71 JBA and X372 CUY back to Redditch and we have 2 Redditch buses in exchange for example KU52 RYK and MW52 PZP hmm MPDs for full size Darts yh I think that could work plus any remaining JNF's that are stood doing nothing

But then Redditch would be stock with more MPD's than it needs.

W901 & W903JNF are both still withdrawn and may be being re-instated

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 01:16:50 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:12:21 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 01:07:43 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 01:00:35 AM

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 12:55:31 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 12:17:16 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 03, 2014, 12:14:55 AM

Quote from: Will on April 02, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
I am delighted KU52 RYN is obviously now back in service, V383 SVV also and I happened to have a look on the DVLA website earlier and I can confirm W904 JNF is now taxed (previously it was SORNED) so I guess it won't be much longer before it enters service so this is excellent news for Kidderminster

I can confirm. KU52 RYN is in service again.

W904 JNF is now inside the garage, so is presumably being prepared for imminent service.
The Wessex bus is also inside too.

The VOR lineup is currently from left to right:
T71 JBA , LG02 FFE , YJ06 YPU

Sam,

is the Wessex bus that you are referring to the VDL/Plaxton Centro?

I make that 14 full size Darts now allocated to Kidderminster, that figure includes S405JUA which may not see service again & W904JNF which is yet to be officially allocated

Winston, in regards to the question you asked Sam yes indeed it is a VDL Centro although when I first saw it parked there I instantly thought it was the same make as YN08 NXL i.e. a Volvo and as for S405 JUA I personally haven't got a clue where that is the only place I can envisage it being currently is Long Acre where more than likely it is V.O.R but as you say 14 long Darts at Kidder absolutely marvellous but a couple more wouldn't do any harm

I wonder if the VDL/Centro is there for familiarization pending further examples moving North? A number of those would certainly boost the age profile of Diamonds KR allocation (which is now behind that of the competition) and would also add further larger buses to the allocation.

I expect KR may eventually have the bulk of the W9--JNF ALX200 bodies Darts as well

Hmm I don't know it's slightly mysterious how it suddenly appeared though what I can't figure out is why they don't send T71 JBA and X372 CUY back to Redditch and we have 2 Redditch buses in exchange for example KU52 RYK and MW52 PZP hmm MPDs for full size Darts yh I think that could work plus any remaining JNF's that are stood doing nothing

But then Redditch would be stock with more MPD's than it needs.

W901 & W903JNF are both still withdrawn and may be being re-instated

Yes I agree but why should we [Kidderminster] care :P in anycase stastically JBA/CUY would probably only be used on the 57/58 Matchborough circular route(s)

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 06:47:53 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

Are you referring to the Wessex one mate?

Quote from: Will on April 03, 2014, 06:47:53 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said what he did.

Are you referring to the Wessex one mate?

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 03, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
Yeah, think so. I agree with Tank90-I can see the sb120's going into Tividale. Then, 20849 could move over to Kidderminster. Possibly at LAC with two more b7rle/centro's into service presumably for the 50/16, whilst it would be ideal if they could supplement existing Centro's on the services short term, ultimately they could move over to Redditch moving euro3 darts to Kidderminster. With more JNF's coming into service most likely at Kidderminster and with capacity created by the b7rles for painting, it shouldn't be long before the quality really starts to increase and the vehicle capacity problem is resolved.

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 11:16:47 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

E300's in to KR would be the ideal choice, as KR's engineering team & ex First drivers will already be familiar with them. E300's are few & far between on the used market, so the only other option I could see, would be for Tividale to take ex Wessex VDL/Centro's, releasing B7RLE/Wright or B7RLE/Centro's to RH to allow current E300's to cascade to KR

Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 25, 2014, 04:26:31 PM

Around Mid/late April, we are going to re-deploy 5 x VDL Centros from Avonmouth to the Midlands, a further decker to Preston to allow the release of Preston deckers to operate school contracts in Blackpool and also the 07 plate Volvo B7RLE's which should have come up earlier.  We have not yet decided their exact location.

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Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

E300's in to KR would be the ideal choice, as KR's engineering team & ex First drivers will already be familiar with them. E300's are few & far between on the used market, so the only other option I could see, would be for Tividale to take ex Wessex VDL/Centro's, releasing B7RLE/Wright or B7RLE/Centro's to RH to allow current E300's to cascade to KR

are there not still some Volvo B7RLEs to come to the Midlands:

Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 25, 2014, 04:26:31 PM

Around Mid/late April, we are going to re-deploy 5 x VDL Centros from Avonmouth to the Midlands, a further decker to Preston to allow the release of Preston deckers to operate school contracts in Blackpool and also the 07 plate Volvo B7RLE's which should have come up earlier.  We have not yet decided their exact location.

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 11:29:30 PM

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Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

E300's in to KR would be the ideal choice, as KR's engineering team & ex First drivers will already be familiar with them. E300's are few & far between on the used market, so the only other option I could see, would be for Tividale to take ex Wessex VDL/Centro's, releasing B7RLE/Wright or B7RLE/Centro's to RH to allow current E300's to cascade to KR

are there not still some Volvo B7RLEs to come to the Midlands:

Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 25, 2014, 04:26:31 PM

Around Mid/late April, we are going to re-deploy 5 x VDL Centros from Avonmouth to the Midlands, a further decker to Preston to allow the release of Preston deckers to operate school contracts in Blackpool and also the 07 plate Volvo B7RLE's which should have come up earlier.  We have not yet decided their exact location.

Yes that is true, but "Exact Location is still not yet decided which to me means well we will look at RH and see if they are needed, no right ORd maybe, LAC maybe and TD yes we could use them here. Its safe to say KD wont see them but whether RH does is another matter, RH should so the Mans can go back to the 50 and 16 in Brum as they would be better there than smoking around Redditch all the time.

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Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

E300's in to KR would be the ideal choice, as KR's engineering team & ex First drivers will already be familiar with them. E300's are few & far between on the used market, so the only other option I could see, would be for Tividale to take ex Wessex VDL/Centro's, releasing B7RLE/Wright or B7RLE/Centro's to RH to allow current E300's to cascade to KR

are there not still some Volvo B7RLEs to come to the Midlands:

Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 25, 2014, 04:26:31 PM

Around Mid/late April, we are going to re-deploy 5 x VDL Centros from Avonmouth to the Midlands, a further decker to Preston to allow the release of Preston deckers to operate school contracts in Blackpool and also the 07 plate Volvo B7RLE's which should have come up earlier.  We have not yet decided their exact location.

Yes that is true, but "Exact Location is still not yet decided which to me means well we will look at RH and see if they are needed, no right ORd maybe, LAC maybe and TD yes we could use them here. Its safe to say KD wont see them but whether RH does is another matter, RH should so the Mans can go back to the 50 and 16 in Brum as they would be better there than smoking around Redditch all the time.

Not a fan of the MAN's then tank90??!!

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Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 11:29:30 PM

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Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 11:16:47 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 06:45:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2014, 03:52:33 PM

Quote from: tank90 on April 03, 2014, 01:05:35 PM
Simon has already said that Kidder will only have ADL/Dennis buses! So I see the VDLs going to Redditch in exchange for longer darts, ie the 52 plates and W906 JNF and any other long dart we may have over here in the east. Or they are headed for Oban rd and Tividale and they are using Kidder as they did Long Acre.

But Rotala aren't buying ADL E200 buses either new or used which of course would be the most logical replacements for Darts. The VDL's have some similarities with Darts in that they Cummins engined etc The DAF/VDL SB120 is the closest to a Dart

Yes I know, but an E300 isn't to dissimilar to a dart either, I can't see the VDLs staying at Kidder after Simon said wht he did.

E300's in to KR would be the ideal choice, as KR's engineering team & ex First drivers will already be familiar with them. E300's are few & far between on the used market, so the only other option I could see, would be for Tividale to take ex Wessex VDL/Centro's, releasing B7RLE/Wright or B7RLE/Centro's to RH to allow current E300's to cascade to KR

are there not still some Volvo B7RLEs to come to the Midlands:

Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 25, 2014, 04:26:31 PM

Around Mid/late April, we are going to re-deploy 5 x VDL Centros from Avonmouth to the Midlands, a further decker to Preston to allow the release of Preston deckers to operate school contracts in Blackpool and also the 07 plate Volvo B7RLE's which should have come up earlier.  We have not yet decided their exact location.

Yes that is true, but "Exact Location is still not yet decided which to me means well we will look at RH and see if they are needed, no right ORd maybe, LAC maybe and TD yes we could use them here. Its safe to say KD wont see them but whether RH does is another matter, RH should so the Mans can go back to the 50 and 16 in Brum as they would be better there than smoking around Redditch all the time.

Not a fan of the MAN's then tank90??!!

Not when they are churning out black smoke no, and also they are a tad crampt when youre sat down and you happen to be 6ft 1 with long legs when sat down. If im honest the only buses the Diamond have that I like as a passenager are the E300s and the B7s I wish we had more here but I cant see that happening any time soon as I dont think Rotala are going to buy the )4 plates back off of YourBus which would be great for here to push off the mans back to the 50 which is where they belong and the 09 plate one can go on the 16. Also they lack the power needed for some of the round a bouts we have in Redditch (could write a noval on them) which require you to put your foot to the floor or if your in an auto matic Kick down but no the Mans have a habit of not pulling off to quickly which on some round a bouts becomes worring to say the least.

As for the lampposts they can do what ever they like with them if I'm honest they to are under powered they are shocking the best routes for them would be 50 51 60 63 64 142/143 not the 55's and 56's this route needs a bus with some power to it.

Also on another thought I hope the Ex wessex Volvos do come to Redditch so our own ones can go away for heavy maintance or as in the rail industry would say an overhaul is needed as they have disconserting messages on the driver display. And at the same time a spray into blue (tho Red sits better on them).

Quote from: Will on April 06, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
I haven't seen (unless anyone else has) LG02 FFC for a few days which makes me wonder if it has gone back to Birmingham nor have I seen W904 JNF in service although I went past the bus depot yesterday on the Stourport bus and the Wessex bus has re-appeared as has S405 JUA (V.O.R notice in windscreen) and T71 JBA is still parked there V.O.R only thing I did notice is YJ06 YPU has vanished (good riddance!) but no more out of place vehicles I noticed anyway.

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 06, 2014, 01:57:51 PM

Quote from: Will on April 06, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
I haven't seen (unless anyone else has) LG02 FFC for a few days which makes me wonder if it has gone back to Birmingham nor have I seen W904 JNF in service although I went past the bus depot yesterday on the Stourport bus and the Wessex bus has re-appeared as has S405 JUA (V.O.R notice in windscreen) and T71 JBA is still parked there V.O.R only thing I did notice is YJ06 YPU has vanished (good riddance!) but no more out of place vehicles I noticed anyway.

The Wessex centro was still in Wessex livery yeah?

Quote from: Will on April 06, 2014, 01:59:04 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 06, 2014, 01:57:51 PM

Quote from: Will on April 06, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
I haven't seen (unless anyone else has) LG02 FFC for a few days which makes me wonder if it has gone back to Birmingham nor have I seen W904 JNF in service although I went past the bus depot yesterday on the Stourport bus and the Wessex bus has re-appeared as has S405 JUA (V.O.R notice in windscreen) and T71 JBA is still parked there V.O.R only thing I did notice is YJ06 YPU has vanished (good riddance!) but no more out of place vehicles I noticed anyway.

The Wessex centro was still in Wessex livery yeah?

Yes mate (YJ07 JRV) it is

Quote from: StourportSam on April 06, 2014, 06:35:58 PM
S405 JUA returned to Kidderminster this week by recovery lorry, so I can only assume YJ06 YPU went the other way.

W904 JNF is inside the garage being prepared for service.

I don't think LG02 FFC is here anymore.

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 06, 2014, 06:55:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 06, 2014, 06:35:58 PM
S405 JUA returned to Kidderminster this week by recovery lorry, so I can only assume YJ06 YPU went the other way.

W904 JNF is inside the garage being prepared for service.

I don't think LG02 FFC is here anymore.

It must have been at long acre then potentially having work done. ..

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 12:20:48 AM
The X3 seems to have returned to normal with W572 JVV making an appearance, although it was alongside V383 SVV...

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
There were two old Diamond red and white liveried long darts (in addition to T418 MNH) parked up around the back of KR garage when I went past just now, will have a look for their identities when I go past on the way to work tomorrow...

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
There were two old Diamond red and white liveried long darts (in addition to T418 MNH) parked up around the back of KR garage when I went past just now, will have a look for their identities when I go past on the way to work tomorrow...

Quote from: Will on April 08, 2014, 08:16:18 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
There were two old Diamond red and white liveried long darts (in addition to T418 MNH) parked up around the back of KR garage when I went past just now, will have a look for their identities when I go past on the way to work tomorrow...

Hmmm that sounds intriguing mate although it could be any one vehicle as I've just counted at least 5 red & white vehicles on the fleet list..

Quote from: Winston on April 08, 2014, 08:23:56 PM

Quote from: Will on April 08, 2014, 08:16:18 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
There were two old Diamond red and white liveried long darts (in addition to T418 MNH) parked up around the back of KR garage when I went past just now, will have a look for their identities when I go past on the way to work tomorrow...

Hmmm that sounds intriguing mate although it could be any one vehicle as I've just counted at least 5 red & white vehicles on the fleet list..

I guess they could just be being used for spares rather than service?

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 09:39:28 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 08, 2014, 08:23:56 PM

Quote from: Will on April 08, 2014, 08:16:18 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 08, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
There were two old Diamond red and white liveried long darts (in addition to T418 MNH) parked up around the back of KR garage when I went past just now, will have a look for their identities when I go past on the way to work tomorrow...

Hmmm that sounds intriguing mate although it could be any one vehicle as I've just counted at least 5 red & white vehicles on the fleet list..

I guess they could just be being used for spares rather than service?

One appeared to be R reg and they both looked dilapidated, so appeared to be for spares.

Quote from: StourportSam on April 09, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
Kidderminster Update

W904 JNF is now in service

There are in fact four old darts in red and white now.

They appear to be

R660 GCA
W335 VGX
Sxxx HVV
And another

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Thanks for the update Sam and it looks as if my guesses weren't too far off. I doubt they are for service as they have been being stripped for spares at Tividale the past couple of years

Quote from: StourportSam on April 09, 2014, 05:32:01 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Thanks for the update Sam and it looks as if my guesses weren't too far off. I doubt they are for service as they have been being stripped for spares at Tividale the past couple of years

I would say you are right Diamond Dart. They appear to be for spares/stripping before disposal only as three of the four are missing one or more windows and all look to have been stored and stripped quite progressively for some time.

I will hopefully have time to get off by the depot tomorrow and take some photos, which I will hopefully post here.

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 09, 2014, 05:34:33 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 09, 2014, 05:32:01 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Thanks for the update Sam and it looks as if my guesses weren't too far off. I doubt they are for service as they have been being stripped for spares at Tividale the past couple of years

I would say you are right Diamond Dart. They appear to be for spares/stripping before disposal only as three of the four are missing one or more windows and all look to have been stored and stripped quite progressively for some time.

I will hopefully have time to get off by the depot tomorrow and take some photos, which I will hopefully post here.

Thanks Sam and I look forward to that. I take it the JYS dart and JBA dart are no longer there though I know 30428s seats are from the jys dart...

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Quote from: StourportSam on April 09, 2014, 05:32:01 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 09, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
Thanks for the update Sam and it looks as if my guesses weren't too far off. I doubt they are for service as they have been being stripped for spares at Tividale the past couple of years

I would say you are right Diamond Dart. They appear to be for spares/stripping before disposal only as three of the four are missing one or more windows and all look to have been stored and stripped quite progressively for some time.

I will hopefully have time to get off by the depot tomorrow and take some photos, which I will hopefully post here.

Thanks Sam and I look forward to that. I take it the JYS dart and JBA dart are no longer there though I know 30428s seats are from the jys dart...

Do you mean R954 JYS and T74 JBA? They're long gone as far as I am aware.
T71 JBA is still VOR with the front drivers side body panel missing.

Perhaps these buses have been moved to Kidderminster now that it is set to become the dart capital of Rotala...

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
The vehicles are, from left to right:

S396 HVV
V941 DNB
W142 WGT
R660 GCA
ALX200 Dart
W335 VGX
S393 HVV
T71 JBA

Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2014, 09:20:09 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
The vehicles are, from left to right:

S396 HVV
V941 DNB
W142 WGT
R660 GCA
ALX200 Dart
W335 VGX
S393 HVV
T71 JBA

W142WGT was parked in the overflow yard at Tividale, wonder if that's being cleared?

Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2014, 09:20:09 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
The vehicles are, from left to right:

S396 HVV
V941 DNB
W142 WGT
R660 GCA
ALX200 Dart
W335 VGX
S393 HVV
T71 JBA

W142WGT was parked in the overflow yard at Tividale, wonder if that's being cleared?

Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2014, 09:20:09 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
The vehicles are, from left to right:

S396 HVV
V941 DNB
W142 WGT
R660 GCA
ALX200 Dart
W335 VGX
S393 HVV
T71 JBA

W142WGT was parked in the overflow yard at Tividale, wonder if that's being cleared?

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 10, 2014, 10:23:22 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2014, 09:20:09 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
The vehicles are, from left to right:

S396 HVV
V941 DNB
W142 WGT
R660 GCA
ALX200 Dart
W335 VGX
S393 HVV
T71 JBA

W142WGT was parked in the overflow yard at Tividale, wonder if that's being cleared?

Thanks for posting the pictures Sam. These were all from Tividale and the alx200 is W901JNF. I imagine all but this are for stripping for spares and then scrapping.

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

Quote from: bowler on April 11, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

you are correct, in  that Winston,they even some had HD & WR ones some times has the mots where done in KR  but with the RH ones there
was a condition that only light maintenance could be done at RH so they had to come to Kr for heavy maintenance work . and if there where to many lances off the road some enviros where loaned. looks like the Worcestershire review is starting for more see my post in the vosa thread

Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2014, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: bowler on April 11, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

you are correct, in  that Winston,they even some had HD & WR ones some times has the mots where done in KR  but with the RH ones there
was a condition that only light maintenance could be done at RH so they had to come to Kr for heavy maintenance work . and if there where to many lances off the road some enviros where loaned. looks like the Worcestershire review is starting for more see my post in the vosa thread

S405 JUA is still here, saw it today. Parked up in the depot with front side body panel missing.
X372 CUY was here last week, it must have gone this week if it has. Will look out for it.
The Wessex bus was inside the depot the other day, so may still be there?
I quite like the constant changes, makes it more interesting than the same buses everyday!

There was a constant changeover of Lances under First, with Worcester and Redditch allocated vehicles swapping with Kidderminster all the time. There were indeed frequent loans due to MOTs etc. For example last year before the takeover First loaned Enviro 67604 then from Hereford to Kidderminster and also Y354 AUY. You just have to look on Flickr to see varios photos of Enviro 300s operating in Kidderminster from 2005-2012 when they were allocated to Redditch or Worcester. 53042 also made visits back to Kidderminster after being transferred to Hereford.

Quote from: Will on April 11, 2014, 08:30:21 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2014, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: bowler on April 11, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

you are correct, in  that Winston,they even some had HD & WR ones some times has the mots where done in KR  but with the RH ones there
was a condition that only light maintenance could be done at RH so they had to come to Kr for heavy maintenance work . and if there where to many lances off the road some enviros where loaned. looks like the Worcestershire review is starting for more see my post in the vosa thread

S405 JUA is still here, saw it today. Parked up in the depot with front side body panel missing.
X372 CUY was here last week, it must have gone this week if it has. Will look out for it.
The Wessex bus was inside the depot the other day, so may still be there?
I quite like the constant changes, makes it more interesting than the same buses everyday!

There was a constant changeover of Lances under First, with Worcester and Redditch allocated vehicles swapping with Kidderminster all the time. There were indeed frequent loans due to MOTs etc. For example last year before the takeover First loaned Enviro 67604 then from Hereford to Kidderminster and also Y354 AUY. You just have to look on Flickr to see varios photos of Enviro 300s operating in Kidderminster from 2005-2012 when they were allocated to Redditch or Worcester. 53042 also made visits back to Kidderminster after being transferred to Hereford.

Yeah good point Sam and correction it was Y352 AUY but I wonder when or indeed if S405 will return to service and as for the Wessex bus knowing Simon he'll want to get it resprayed before it enters service and as for X372 I wonder where that has gone to Redditch? LAC?

My mate has informed me this afternoon that he has noticed when riding past the bus garage on his bike that VX54 MUC is once again V.O.R that is now the 2nd time this year it makes me wonder if the First Wyvern Darts (apart from MUP) are in the early stages of being withdrawn? As neither MUO or MUC have been resprayed I have asked Simon but I've never really had much of a responce from him regarding the respray of those particular vehicles the terminology is (and I don't mean to be horrible) but blood out of a stone springs to mind as I get the impression by his lack of responce in regards to the way he avoids the question I have asked of those particular vehicles that he doesn't particually give a monkeys about them I don't know of course but that is the impression I keep getting maybe I'm wrong..

Quote from: Will on April 11, 2014, 08:30:21 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2014, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: bowler on April 11, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

you are correct, in  that Winston,they even some had HD & WR ones some times has the mots where done in KR  but with the RH ones there
was a condition that only light maintenance could be done at RH so they had to come to Kr for heavy maintenance work . and if there where to many lances off the road some enviros where loaned. looks like the Worcestershire review is starting for more see my post in the vosa thread

S405 JUA is still here, saw it today. Parked up in the depot with front side body panel missing.
X372 CUY was here last week, it must have gone this week if it has. Will look out for it.
The Wessex bus was inside the depot the other day, so may still be there?
I quite like the constant changes, makes it more interesting than the same buses everyday!

There was a constant changeover of Lances under First, with Worcester and Redditch allocated vehicles swapping with Kidderminster all the time. There were indeed frequent loans due to MOTs etc. For example last year before the takeover First loaned Enviro 67604 then from Hereford to Kidderminster and also Y354 AUY. You just have to look on Flickr to see varios photos of Enviro 300s operating in Kidderminster from 2005-2012 when they were allocated to Redditch or Worcester. 53042 also made visits back to Kidderminster after being transferred to Hereford.

Yeah good point Sam and correction it was Y352 AUY but I wonder when or indeed if S405 will return to service and as for the Wessex bus knowing Simon he'll want to get it resprayed before it enters service and as for X372 I wonder where that has gone to Redditch? LAC?

My mate has informed me this afternoon that he has noticed when riding past the bus garage on his bike that VX54 MUC is once again V.O.R that is now the 2nd time this year it makes me wonder if the First Wyvern Darts (apart from MUP) are in the early stages of being withdrawn? As neither MUO or MUC have been resprayed I have asked Simon but I've never really had much of a responce from him regarding the respray of those particular vehicles the terminology is (and I don't mean to be horrible) but blood out of a stone springs to mind as I get the impression by his lack of responce in regards to the way he avoids the question I have asked of those particular vehicles that he doesn't particually give a monkeys about them I don't know of course but that is the impression I keep getting maybe I'm wrong..

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 13, 2014, 12:02:47 AM

Quote from: Will on April 11, 2014, 08:30:21 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2014, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: bowler on April 11, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Quote from: Winston on April 11, 2014, 10:02:15 AM

Quote from: Will on April 10, 2014, 11:55:34 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 10, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why W904 JNF has yellow interior handrails in all photos I have seen yet has red ones now it is at Kidderminster??

Very good point mate it's probably so's that Diamond can distinguish which vehicle is which because as we know they look a like thats my theory anyway....

On another note my mate made a good point to me this evening when I was talking to him about buses and he bought it to my notice that X372 CUY has vanished from KR in the past 2 or 3 weeks and I have to admit he's more observant than I am as I myself hadn't even noticed it had gone (some bus enthusiast I am!) he also pointed out that S405 JUA has also vanished yet again and so has the VDL Centro Wessex bus ahh why do Diamond make buses dissapear I don't like it at least when First had the operations you always knew which buses were where at any one time but with Rotala it's hard to keep up...

Didn't KR under First have quite a few RH buses on loan at times that were there for maintenance work to be carried out etc

you are correct, in  that Winston,they even some had HD & WR ones some times has the mots where done in KR  but with the RH ones there
was a condition that only light maintenance could be done at RH so they had to come to Kr for heavy maintenance work . and if there where to many lances off the road some enviros where loaned. looks like the Worcestershire review is starting for more see my post in the vosa thread

S405 JUA is still here, saw it today. Parked up in the depot with front side body panel missing.
X372 CUY was here last week, it must have gone this week if it has. Will look out for it.
The Wessex bus was inside the depot the other day, so may still be there?
I quite like the constant changes, makes it more interesting than the same buses everyday!

There was a constant changeover of Lances under First, with Worcester and Redditch allocated vehicles swapping with Kidderminster all the time. There were indeed frequent loans due to MOTs etc. For example last year before the takeover First loaned Enviro 67604 then from Hereford to Kidderminster and also Y354 AUY. You just have to look on Flickr to see varios photos of Enviro 300s operating in Kidderminster from 2005-2012 when they were allocated to Redditch or Worcester. 53042 also made visits back to Kidderminster after being transferred to Hereford.

Yeah good point Sam and correction it was Y352 AUY but I wonder when or indeed if S405 will return to service and as for the Wessex bus knowing Simon he'll want to get it resprayed before it enters service and as for X372 I wonder where that has gone to Redditch? LAC?

My mate has informed me this afternoon that he has noticed when riding past the bus garage on his bike that VX54 MUC is once again V.O.R that is now the 2nd time this year it makes me wonder if the First Wyvern Darts (apart from MUP) are in the early stages of being withdrawn? As neither MUO or MUC have been resprayed I have asked Simon but I've never really had much of a responce from him regarding the respray of those particular vehicles the terminology is (and I don't mean to be horrible) but blood out of a stone springs to mind as I get the impression by his lack of responce in regards to the way he avoids the question I have asked of those particular vehicles that he doesn't particually give a monkeys about them I don't know of course but that is the impression I keep getting maybe I'm wrong..

Simon is extremely kind to answer any question at all- most ceo's wouldn't and people must remember this.

Of course the ex first darts are not to go as they are some of Kidderminster s best vehicles and with older darts even reentering service it is doubtful the newesy examples will be sold.

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 14, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
Most likely it is cadets over crusaders as diamond have no withdrawn crusaders in black livery just a few red diamond ones. Withdrawn black diamond darts probably include T445EBD and cadets are YJ51EKA and YD02PZL. I can understand darts being there for spares but not sb120s. All of these are from TE which makes you wonder why there is being cleared out? Is KR the new place to store withdrawn vehicles?

Quote from: Will on April 14, 2014, 08:13:02 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 14, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
Most likely it is cadets over crusaders as diamond have no withdrawn crusaders in black livery just a few red diamond ones. Withdrawn black diamond darts probably include T445EBD and cadets are YJ51EKA and YD02PZL. I can understand darts being there for spares but not sb120s. All of these are from TE which makes you wonder why there is being cleared out? Is KR the new place to store withdrawn vehicles?

Hmmm you could be right there mate but the thing is KR isn't at all big enough for that and if they do keep bringing dead buses down here before long they will need to relocate...

Quote from: StourportSam on April 16, 2014, 10:48:35 PM
I have come to the conclusion that W904 JNF is not what it claims to be. In all photos I can find of this bus it has blue plastic mouldings, yellow handrails, black seats with dips in the middle and dark blue seat trims. However, when I went on it today, It has a standard Stagecoach interior. Grey plastic, red floor, stagecoach trim on grey seats, red handrails...? Why would this be?

I can only think a donor body of a withdrawn stagecoach ALX200 has been used on the chassis of W904 JNF or it is in fact a completely different bus!

It looks EXACTLY like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrahamm/8039817168/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrahamm/8039817168/)

Quote from: Will on April 17, 2014, 10:13:18 AM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 16, 2014, 10:48:35 PM
I have come to the conclusion that W904 JNF is not what it claims to be. In all photos I can find of this bus it has blue plastic mouldings, yellow handrails, black seats with dips in the middle and dark blue seat trims. However, when I went on it today, It has a standard Stagecoach interior. Grey plastic, red floor, stagecoach trim on grey seats, red handrails...? Why would this be?

I can only think a donor body of a withdrawn stagecoach ALX200 has been used on the chassis of W904 JNF or it is in fact a completely different bus!

It looks EXACTLY like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrahamm/8039817168/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danielgrahamm/8039817168/)

Haha well maybe your right mate or an alternative to that maybe they have put W904 JNF registration plates onto a different vehicle albeit the same model etc but I'm not entirely sure that's legal but hey ho..

Quote from: Will on April 21, 2014, 05:56:19 PM
Has everything gone quiet as there hasn't been any updates on here since the 17th I haven't been in Kidder for a week so I was expecting to be kept "updated" with movements but nothing :'( ....

Quote from: StourportSam on April 21, 2014, 06:06:36 PM

Quote from: Will on April 21, 2014, 05:56:19 PM
Has everything gone quiet as there hasn't been any updates on here since the 17th I haven't been in Kidder for a week so I was expecting to be kept "updated" with movements but nothing :'( ....

Sorry, didn't realise I was under an obligation to provide updates!

And no, there have been no changes of note this week. VX54 MUC and VX54 MUO seem to have disappeared (one at least is inside the garage) but I couldn't be sure so didn't post.

I am still planning to identify the additional scrap buses when I have the spare time.

Presumably the lack of movements, which have been very frequent of late, is due to Easter.

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 07:18:20 PM

Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 06:16:47 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 07:18:20 PM

Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 06:16:47 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 07:18:20 PM

Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 06:40:47 PM

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 06:16:47 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 07:18:20 PM

Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

I think it took over from 30637 on the 3 which was towed this morning.

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 07:28:16 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Where's ex Ludlows withdrawn Cadet 30217 these days?

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 09:06:12 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 07:28:16 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Where's ex Ludlows withdrawn Cadet 30217 these days?

Not a clue I'm afraid. I've never seen it in service or at LAC or TE. Would be interested to know if it will be coming back into service. Potentially at Preston being stripped for spares like 203 was. A lot of the cadets have been involved in crashes and withdrawn it seems...

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 09:06:12 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 07:28:16 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Where's ex Ludlows withdrawn Cadet 30217 these days?

Not a clue I'm afraid. I've never seen it in service or at LAC or TE. Would be interested to know if it will be coming back into service. Potentially at Preston being stripped for spares like 203 was. A lot of the cadets have been involved in crashes and withdrawn it seems...

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 09:24:32 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 09:06:12 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 07:28:16 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 06:53:58 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:14:59 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Where's ex Ludlows withdrawn Cadet 30217 these days?

Not a clue I'm afraid. I've never seen it in service or at LAC or TE. Would be interested to know if it will be coming back into service. Potentially at Preston being stripped for spares like 203 was. A lot of the cadets have been involved in crashes and withdrawn it seems...

There's one parked up at KR in plain view from the roundabout, t's displaying 241 on its side blinds

Quote from: StourportSam on April 23, 2014, 09:26:26 PM

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 09:24:32 PM

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 23, 2014, 09:06:12 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 07:28:16 PM

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Kidderminster Update

VX54 MUO has been repainted, seen gleaming in the rain at Kidderminster depot today.

There are three further scrap/VOR/spares buses since my last report.
They are 30378 S378 TMB (Still in full Wessex Connect livery) and two Black Diamond buses with Wright bodywork.
One is unidentifiable and the other has number 30201 on it, which doesn't make sense for a 55 plate to be withdrawn?

Sam,

It could well be the original 30201 YJ51EKA, not sure if that has yet to be scrapped or not.

Winston I think you are quite correct, I didn't realise there was an 'original' 30201! Looking at the photos I can find online it definitely is YJ51 EKA.

Both of the black buses had windscreens missing.

Yep original 30201 is still about and qas at TE being stripped for spares. Not in awful condition tho... The other cadet is likely to be 30212 which crashed last year into a bridge on the 301 and suffered heavy nearside damage. YD02PZL. Again from TE and surprising it is there as surely the sources of spares would be better at TE which actually operates cadets then as soon as say a window is smashed the parts can be ripped off 30201/30212.

Where's ex Ludlows withdrawn Cadet 30217 these days?

Not a clue I'm afraid. I've never seen it in service or at LAC or TE. Would be interested to know if it will be coming back into service. Potentially at Preston being stripped for spares like 203 was. A lot of the cadets have been involved in crashes and withdrawn it seems...

There's one parked up at KR in plain view from the roundabout, t's displaying 241 on its side blinds

That's the old 30201

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Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

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Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

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Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

I saw it in the bus station like that, around 1630.

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 09:56:28 PM

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 06:16:47 PM

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Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I was wearing a white baseball cap, blue back pack and a red CeX bag you might of seen me ?

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Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

It did that in the last photo I got of it on 31/12/13 so must be an ongoing fault or it disappears when the driver presses a route? Not sure as I only saw it parked up...

Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 10:27:11 PM

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Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

It did that in the last photo I got of it on 31/12/13 so must be an ongoing fault or it disappears when the driver presses a route? Not sure as I only saw it parked up...

Like so? https://www.flickr.com/photos/34016627@N07/12139789313/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/34016627@N07/12139789313/)

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 10:24:50 PM

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I was wearing a white baseball cap, blue back pack and a red CeX bag you might of seen me ?

I dunno I don't remember seeing anyone who I suspected to be an enthusiast :P I'll be around again tomorrow although only early morning & mid/late afternoon.

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Quote from: Will on April 22, 2014, 07:06:00 PM

Quote from: StourportSam on April 22, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Kidderminster Update

S405 JUA in service on the 10 in Kidderminster today.

A large number of the old First Midland Red bus stop flags in Kidderminster, Stourport and Areley Kings have been replaced in the past week with standard Worcestershire County Council ones.

That is the best news EVER Sam you have made my day  :D

See, a week of no updates and then a really good one comes along! :)

I arrived back in Kiddy this afternoon only to get on S405 JUA on the X3 now I noticed a few things different about it they were

1. the hannover display on the side of the vehicle has been taken out and you can see where it was screwed in inside.

2. it has definitely had a new engine fitted as it now runs and sounds different when it's running

and something else has changed about it as well but I cannot put my finger on quite what it is.
I honestly don't believe it will be in use for very much longer and personally before much longer I can see it being withdrawn & put up for sale but I guess that remains to be seen...

Just remembered, when I saw it pull into Kidder bus station this afternoon it was displaying a load of code on the front and rear displays, not sure if that is of any relevance.

It did that in the last photo I got of it on 31/12/13 so must be an ongoing fault or it disappears when the driver presses a route? Not sure as I only saw it parked up...

Like so? https://www.flickr.com/photos/34016627@N07/12139789313/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/34016627@N07/12139789313/)

Yes, exactly

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:39:25 PM

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 10:24:50 PM

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I was wearing a white baseball cap, blue back pack and a red CeX bag you might of seen me ?

I dunno I don't remember seeing anyone who I suspected to be an enthusiast :P I'll be around again tomorrow although only early morning & mid/late afternoon.

Hmm might see you around mate if you see me I'll be wearing a black hoody white hat so keep an eye out

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Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:39:25 PM

Quote from: Matt on April 23, 2014, 10:24:50 PM

Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I was wearing a white baseball cap, blue back pack and a red CeX bag you might of seen me ?

I dunno I don't remember seeing anyone who I suspected to be an enthusiast :P I'll be around again tomorrow although only early morning & mid/late afternoon.

Hmm might see you around mate if you see me I'll be wearing a black hoody white hat so keep an eye out

Hoping to be on the 8:10 2A from Kidder, 8:40 15 from Bewdley and 9:12 192 from Stourport. Going into school for a bit, but will be back later. Look out for the trademark grey Lonsdale hoody!

Quote from: Will on April 24, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Anyone seen or sound of T71 JBA, or has this now left Kidder completely?

Quote from: Will on April 24, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Anyone seen or sound of T71 JBA, or has this now left Kidder completely?

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Quote from: Will on April 24, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Anyone seen or sound of T71 JBA, or has this now left Kidder completely?

It is VOR at Kidderminster with the scrap buses; my suspicions are it will be withdrawn/sold.

Quote from: Solo1 on April 26, 2014, 07:21:41 PM
What is the pvr of the Kidderminster depot

Quote from: Winston on April 28, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
The 3's are being increased in frequency to provide a 10 min combined frequency with the hourly X3 from 2nd June

Diamond's new 1 service operates 11 mins in-front of Whittle's 1 on the same 40 min frequency

http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/WorcestershireServiceChanges_220.html

Quote from: Winston on April 28, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
The 3's are being increased in frequency to provide a 10 min combined frequency with the hourly X3 from 2nd June

Diamond's new 1 service operates 11 mins in-front of Whittle's 1 on the same 40 min frequency

http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/WorcestershireServiceChanges_220.html

Quote from: DiamondDart on April 28, 2014, 08:53:57 PM

Quote from: Winston on April 28, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
The 3's are being increased in frequency to provide a 10 min combined frequency with the hourly X3 from 2nd June

Diamond's new 1 service operates 11 mins in-front of Whittle's 1 on the same 40 min frequency

http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/WorcestershireServiceChanges_220.html

Good news on both counts then!! Is there also roon for diamond to have a go on the 2A/C as MRW ran both the 2 and 2A/C?