How come some buses that are repainted into NXWM livery, are those that look ok on the outside and a lot neater than others, but there are many vehicles that are running about in TWM livery, that look awful with mismatched panels, scrapes and dents. The last time I saw 4493 and 4494 on old livery, they were smart and I think there was no need for them to be repainted (unless they have had accidents).
A few examples I can think of are 4490, 4303, most of the old 33 Gemini's and 4246.
It's a great point John, in my experience a bus will be refurbed when there is the opportunity to combine it with other extensive work that needs doing on the vehicle i.e. a considerable mechanical refit like new engine or gearbox, or an MOT that requires a lot of work, or an accident. Basically if the bus is already due to be off the road for say, a week, you might as well be doing the refurb at the same time and extend the VOR period by a few more days, it's more efficient.
It may just be that the buses you see in the worst condition bodywork wise are in fact the best ones mechanically, or just not due any downtime or maintenance work for a while.
I think repaint candidates would have to be a handful of YW/BC Tridents, WB/PB Volvo B7TLs
4161 4182 and 4338 are all in need of repaint or even just a tidy up!
And you haven't seen 4338 looking tatty for some time, It has been at Walsall for about a month getting a refurb & repaint!
I must say that NXWM are working really hard on refurbing/repainting buses at the moment tho they do need to.
1629 is another, back at Pensnett repainted & retrimmed and being fitted with LED destinations
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
And you haven't seen 4338 looking tatty for some time, It has been at Walsall for about a month getting a refurb & repaint!
As I haven't been on a refurbished ALX400, are these as intense as the President refurbs back in 2007/2008? LED displays would be nice, but aren't really required as the Dot Matrix's to the job, although they are very hard to read, and some YW Tridents look as if they are faded!
I can only comment for tridents on the bristol road refurbished not too long ago with old style seating. Theyre fine
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:04:28 PM
And you haven't seen 4338 looking tatty for some time, It has been at Walsall for about a month getting a refurb & repaint!
As I haven't been on a refurbished ALX400, are these as intense as the President refurbs back in 2007/2008? LED displays would be nice, but aren't really required as the Dot Matrix's to the job, although they are very hard to read, and some YW Tridents look as if they are faded!
see the photo of 4148 to know if they are as good as the president refurb. In a way they are better, because the Presidents kept their original engines. (4338 is only getting the bodywork refresh, and not the Euro 5 engine)
4274 is a great example of how the alx400 improve in appearence with the LED display at the front and the interior retrim and im sure some people have mistaken it for being a new bus
Quote from: Ash on May 13, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
4274 is a great example of how the alx400 improve in appearence with the LED display at the front and the interior retrim and im sure some people have mistaken it for being a new bus
Looking at Tony's photograph, yeah it does look better. I like the BC ALX400, I think 4632? which has an LED display. It's made a few appearances on the 957 as of late.
I must say I hadn't even noticed not seeing 4338 I just assumed it had been on other routes, good to know its getting that treatment though it certainly needed it!
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 13, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
4274 is a great example of how the alx400 improve in appearence with the LED display at the front and the interior retrim and im sure some people have mistaken it for being a new bus
Looking at Tony's photograph, yeah it does look better. I like the BC ALX400, I think 4632? which has an LED display. It's made a few appearances on the 957 as of late.
Yeah 4274 certainly looks better especially when you compare it with the pic below on tony's photo's same new NXWM livery and same service and destination display much improved.
Is 4150 having a refurb and repaint because haven't seen it for a while :)
Quote from: Peter123 on May 13, 2012, 08:06:39 PM
I must say that NXWM are working really hard on refurbing/repainting buses at the moment tho they do need to.
As you say Peter NXWM do a FANTASTIC Job Refurbishing and Repainting the Buses it's a shame when the weather hits them :)
Quote from: Rob H on May 13, 2012, 09:51:19 PM
As you say Peter NXWM do a FANTASTIC Job Refurbishing and Repainting the Buses it's a shame when the weather hits them :)
And when the Chavs hit them from inside ;)
Tony, do you know what other buses are going in for repaint and refurb
Firstly, well done to NXWM. The past few weeks have seen a lot of repaints and refurbishments. Firstly, whats up with 4063 as it seems to have had new front lights and repaint at front but the rest hasn't.? Secondly, are all repaints such as 4261, 4584 and 4338 receiving interior refurbishment. If so, to which style. 4686 looks incredibly smart-the smartest bus in the West Midlands for a long time and I will have to go on the X51 soon to sample it. What interior does it have and has it been internally refurbished?
Quote from: Peter123 on May 21, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Firstly, well done to NXWM. The past few weeks have seen a lot of repaints and refurbishments. Firstly, whats up with 4063 as it seems to have had new front lights and repaint at front but the rest hasn't.? Secondly, are all repaints such as 4261, 4584 and 4338 receiving interior refurbishment. If so, to which style. 4686 looks incredibly smart-the smartest bus in the West Midlands for a long time and I will have to go on the X51 soon to sample it. What interior does it have and has it been internally refurbished?
All repaints for the last year or so have had a retrim. 4485 looks very smart with grey spot seats when I checked it on the 101 today. A couple of buses in the last month have still had the dark blue trim including WN 45xx Tridents. 4686 hasn't been repainted since the new trim rule so still retains its original 997 interior, although it is still quite smart
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on May 21, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Firstly, well done to NXWM. The past few weeks have seen a lot of repaints and refurbishments. Firstly, whats up with 4063 as it seems to have had new front lights and repaint at front but the rest hasn't.? Secondly, are all repaints such as 4261, 4584 and 4338 receiving interior refurbishment. If so, to which style. 4686 looks incredibly smart-the smartest bus in the West Midlands for a long time and I will have to go on the X51 soon to sample it. What interior does it have and has it been internally refurbished?
All repaints for the last year or so have had a retrim. 4485 looks very smart with grey spot seats when I checked it on the 101 today. A couple of buses in the last month have still had the dark blue trim including WN 45xx Tridents. 4686 hasn't been repainted since the new trim rule so still retains its original 997 interior, although it is still quite smart
A few weeks ago I complained about the state of the ex 33 Geminis...if 4485 is an example of how they are going to be looking in a couple of months then fair play to the refurb team....these refurbs are looking so much better in the last few weeks than what they were turning out even as recently as a couple of months ago.
4063: Maybe it's AG bound. To work on the Outer Circle
4686: This has high backed seating, I'm not sure about the interior
Quote from: Peter123 on May 21, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Firstly, well done to NXWM. The past few weeks have seen a lot of repaints and refurbishments. Firstly, whats up with 4063 as it seems to have had new front lights and repaint at front but the rest hasn't.? Secondly, are all repaints such as 4261, 4584 and 4338 receiving interior refurbishment. If so, to which style. 4686 looks incredibly smart-the smartest bus in the West Midlands for a long time and I will have to go on the X51 soon to sample it. What interior does it have and has it been internally refurbished?
I would think 4686 still has the 997 seating as they didnt look too bad last time i was on one, they werent that worn out and is quite a smart seating style
I would like to see 4635-4679 refurbished. If the remaining 45** Geminis stay at AG, they could do with the same treatment and Front LEDs, although I can't see them hanging around. 4532 on the 1 today. Rare because it's a first generation (part of first order) Gemini, although the 1 literally sees every type of bus at AG working it.
The transfers of the gemini's to WB seem to have stopped at the current time but im sure the rest of the 45xx gemini's at AG will make there way over to WB in return for presidents
I too am liking the new spot seat refurbs and NXWM are doing a good job with the latest refurbs. However I think on the Tridents they should have totally new seats like the ones on the Enviros or would be asking too much
Quote from: Ashley on May 22, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
I too am liking the new spot seat refurbs and NXWM are doing a good job with the latest refurbs. However I think on the Tridents they should have totally new seats like the ones on the Enviros or would be asking too much
They are the same seats? Just a darker blue used on the plastic?
Also are the plastics on the pb refurbed gems with grey seats still blue or grey?
Still blue on 4493 so im guessing blue on the rest.
Has 4383 had a refurb as well?
Saw 4025 and 4377 in town today, looking amazing...really vibrant and polished red and the far better off white, applied brilliantly...if only they'd started with these earlier.
Is it just me or has 4338 also had new tinted windows?
4025 is out on the 1 today, and looks 'brand-new' 8)
Compared to the other recently-repainted Presidents on this route today, you can really see the difference, as you can't see the gaps between panels, looks smooth all over.
Nice work, now maybe soon 4111 and 4112 will get the same treatment!
Thinking about it. Does the 11 even need to go fully president?
Quote from: 4504 on May 27, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Thinking about it. Does the 11 even need to go fully president?
As it stands, AG requires the following:
8 Geminis for the 5
8 or 9 Geminis for the 31
3-4 (off the top of my head) Geminis for the 73
Adding that all up, AG requires 21 Geminis, plus say 3 for the 37 peak boards. That's 24, plus spares, so say 28 Geminis roughly. That leaves upto 17 Geminis to work the 11, along with 25 Presidents (based on a PVR of 42 for the 11), and that's not including any extra workings such as some 11E school journeys. The amount of Geminis is based on 4635-4679, and not the last few 4511-4534 batch left, as they are expected to transfer to West Bromwich sooner or later.
To sum up, the 11 does not necessarily have to be all President operated, but there's the possibility that another garage (such as BC) would need replacements for it's own Presidents, so 17 Geminis available for the 11 could move over in exchange for even more Presidents.
A possible move would be 17 Geminis to PB, 17 B7 ALX to BC and 17 President to AG, or just a straight swap, as either way, BC would have to gain another vehicle type.
An idea that I had. Swap BC's Presidents fort WA's Tridents. I know the numbers don't match but its an idea
My idea was the presidents, BC > AG
Could be replaced by WA tridents
Then WA could receive some AG geminis maybe, as WA already have some examples
Quote from: 4504 on May 29, 2012, 09:32:29 PM
My idea was the presidents, BC > AG
Could be replaced by WA tridents
Then WA could receive some AG geminis maybe, as WA already have some examples
I'd rather see BC gain Geminis than more Tridents, although AG losing any of 4635-4679 is unlikely, and seeing as they only have 4-5 older Geminis left, I think they're much more likely to just swap with Presidents from WB to keep the same batches together.
BC gaining Geminis wouldn't be so unpractical. The controls pretty much identical to the Presidents in the cabin, with only the Hanover display stuff being on top of you instead of in front on the Presidents, along with other minor controls. I would have thought that some parts can be interchanged with the Eclipse2's so it would be even more practical.
Quote from: Michael on May 29, 2012, 09:41:15 PM
I'd rather see BC gain Geminis
I still think that the Gemini's at Walsall should have gone to Birmingham Central for the 900. Maybe refurbish a few more in the 467* to high back seating and these could run the 900's. This could then get rid of around 10 President's (Whatever the PVR of the 900/E is).
Alot of this vehicle transferring is due to WB not getting any brand new buses for a long time and having the oldest average fleet age as in recent times the only new double deckers WB have actually had is the Dudley road '06' Gemini's the alx400 and presidents were all new to other garages and now the newest full length single deckers are V reg mercs (excluding the alx200 darts). WB must be due some new buses especially with the sandwell bus review coming up.
Quote from: Ashley on May 29, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
An idea that I had. Swap BC's Presidents fort WA's Tridents. I know the numbers don't match but its an idea
One problem with that idea, is that WA now only have 13 Tridents left, while BC still has 27 Presidents to replace
So either way, BC are getting a different type of bus. I hope they receive B7/ALXs
Quote from: winston on May 29, 2012, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on May 29, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
An idea that I had. Swap BC's Presidents fort WA's Tridents. I know the numbers don't match but its an idea
One problem with that idea, is that WA now only have 13 Tridents left, while BC still has 27 Presidents to replace
A direct swap of 27 presidents to Coventry and then send 27 tridents to BC and then send Coventry's 10 Gemini's to WB in return for 10 presidents, this suggestion is a bit unrealistic but is simple
That could work, would just take time to repaint the red fronts to blue
It has happened to a few mercs recently tho to 1547, 1557 and 1655 have just has their fronts repainted
I'm sure I saw on another thread on here, that BC was eventually to become an all Volvo garage, if that is likely to happen, then there will certainly need to be a large number of swaps / or a change in double deck buying policy away from the current Enviro 400's. To back that up it is looking likely that BC will end up with all Volvo Hybrids, while WN will have the Enviro 400H.
I'd certainly be happy to see some Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini's ordered for 2013
Quote from: 4504 on May 29, 2012, 10:03:17 PM
So either way, BC are getting a different type of bus. I hope they receive B7/ALXs
Quote from: winston on May 29, 2012, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on May 29, 2012, 08:56:14 PM
An idea that I had. Swap BC's Presidents fort WA's Tridents. I know the numbers don't match but its an idea
One problem with that idea, is that WA now only have 13 Tridents left, while BC still has 27 Presidents to replace
Quote from: Ash on May 29, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
A direct swap of 27 presidents to Coventry and then send 27 tridents to BC and then send Coventry's 10 Gemini's to WB in return for 10 presidents, this suggestion is a bit unrealistic but is simple
As well as costly as 37 Presidents would need to be resprayed, as well as 37 Tridents/Geminis.
Also, the Coventry Geminis are different to the rest of the NXWM Geminis, they are fitted with Voith gearboxes.
I'd also like to see Gemini2's ordered. They would be excellent replacements for the 4700-4717 batch on the Dudley Road, replacing the Presidents.
They'd also be good replacements for the Sutton Lines I think.
Yeah thought it would be along shot just a different view of how the fleet could be swapped round
Quote from: John-s-91 on May 29, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 29, 2012, 09:41:15 PM
I'd rather see BC gain Geminis
I still think that the Gemini's at Walsall should have gone to Birmingham Central for the 900. Maybe refurbish a few more in the 467* to high back seating and these could run the 900's. This could then get rid of around 10 President's (Whatever the PVR of the 900/E is).
Maybe the 900/900E could be treated to some new higher spec double deckers from the 2013 NX order, to the same spec as the 997 Enviros. Afterall it is a high profile route between two major cities and also serving the airport
Quote from: Ash on May 29, 2012, 09:55:36 PM
Alot of this vehicle transferring is due to WB not getting any brand new buses for a long time and having the oldest average fleet age as in recent times the only new double deckers WB have actually had is the Dudley road '06' Gemini's the alx400 and presidents were all new to other garages and now the newest full length single deckers are V reg mercs (excluding the alx200 darts). WB must be due some new buses especially with the sandwell bus review coming up.
Didn't they get Omnilinks for the 404 in 2009?
They did, but were lost to Walsall along with the 404.
The Soho Road corridor could do with new buses as well, but they'd just get ruined.
Before the 404 Scanias the last new vehicles to run through WB were the 43xx Tridents for the 79 which entered service in May 2002... 7 years of no investment by any operator is impressive.
I'm sure the Dudley Rd buses were brand new in around 2006 Gemini's or what ever they are called so I don't think the above is strictly true.
No they run through Oldbury and the drivers change there for the service and even the 79 tridents have gone and replaced by spectra's
Quote from: thetruth on May 30, 2012, 05:09:10 PM
Do the 82/87 run through West Bromwich?
Strictly speaking, that's incorrect, as the 79 (Birmingham - Wolverhampton) ran through West Bromwich and in it's later days, was operated by the final 100 Tridents of the NXWM fleet.
It was only operated by the newer tridents due to most of the 79 branded ones leaving Wolverhampton garage for Walsall, Birmingham and even Coventry. So used the newer tridents and a couple of the older 79 branded tridents. Now it sees spectra's and occasionally a merc
Arh, I mis read. I thought you meant running out of West Bromwich as in garage I eat humble pie.
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
It was only operated by the newer tridents due to most of the 79 branded ones leaving Wolverhampton garage for Walsall, Birmingham and even Coventry. So used the newer tridents and a couple of the older 79 branded tridents. Now it sees spectra's and occasionally a merc
It was still ran by them so it isn't really true.
Quote from: Michael on May 30, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
It was only operated by the newer tridents due to most of the 79 branded ones leaving Wolverhampton garage for Walsall, Birmingham and even Coventry. So used the newer tridents and a couple of the older 79 branded tridents. Now it sees spectra's and occasionally a merc
It was still ran by them so it isn't really true.
Sorry Michael i dont get what your trying to say, the 79 now uses tridents on sundays and occasionally in the evenings and uses spectra's now, before the change when it went through to Birmingham it used the newer tridents and a last couple of branded 79 tridents (02 reg) by that time quite a few was at Walsall, Birmgham, Yardley Wood and Coventry
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2012, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 30, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2012, 05:15:11 PM
It was only operated by the newer tridents due to most of the 79 branded ones leaving Wolverhampton garage for Walsall, Birmingham and even Coventry. So used the newer tridents and a couple of the older 79 branded tridents. Now it sees spectra's and occasionally a merc
It was still ran by them so it isn't really true.
Sorry Michael i dont get what your trying to say, the 79 now uses tridents on sundays and occasionally in the evenings and uses spectra's now, before the change when it went through to Birmingham it used the newer tridents and a last couple of branded 79 tridents (02 reg) by that time quite a few was at Walsall, Birmgham, Yardley Wood and Coventry
What I'm saying is that new buses not running through West Bromwich between 2002-2009 isn't strictly true because BL53, BU04 and BX54 were used on the 79 which ran from Birmingham to Wolverhampton. I know it isn't now, but before 2009 it was. 2002-2009 he said.
Also the 56 reg Eclipses which were occasionally used on the 405 when ran by Walsall Garage
What about the Plaxton Centro's introduced by Black Diamond. Belive they entered service before the Omnilinks.
Yeah the black diamond centro's were intended for the 401/2 and 404B/E/H services and apparently because of the centro's and upgrade from diamond this caused NXWM to uprgrade its 404 service to omnilinks so if the centro's had no upgraded diamond services would mercs still be used on the 404.
Another cracking refurb....4482...they're doing a great job on these Geminis, I hope they get looked after.
What other buses are in for refurb atm apart from 4806 and 1627
Quote from: Ashley on June 05, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
What other buses are in for refurb atm apart from 4806 and 1627
Trident 4185 has been reported at Rowan Telmac, Coventry under refurbishment
Tony's your man for anything that is currently in BC's refurbishment bays & Walsall refurbishment bays/Walsall paintshop
Two more Geminis in for repaint/retrim are 4479 & 4653. Another trident is 4391
Shame tio see the PB Gem's being repainted. Most of the ex-33 ones dont really need a refurb either. Maybe just a good clean and touch up the original livery as they are unique at perry barr, except maybe a few that were sent to wb ?
Quote from: Tony on June 07, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Two more Geminis in for repaint/retrim are 4479 & 4653. Another trident is 4391
With the new trim I imagine?
4653 will be interesting to see. Not been on any refurb'd vehicles in the new trim.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 07, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Shame tio see the PB Gem's being repainted. Most of the ex-33 ones dont really need a refurb either. Maybe just a good clean and touch up the original livery as they are unique at perry barr, except maybe a few that were sent to wb ?
I think it's good they're being painting, they don't look very good, you can still see outlines of the 'line 33' branding on the majority of the PB gems. I just hope PBs enviros don't get repainted anytime soon, 4737 looks ok, but the toothpaste livery just suits them.
Don't let User nx4737 hear that! He likes that e400 in NX LIVERY
4479 was in very good external condition for an old 33 Gemini, it doesn't need a refurb. Now 4490 on the other hand......
I only saw 4479 last week, it looked pretty tidy really. 4653 could get away with just new trim and a clean because the paintwork is fairly recent, or is the panelling a different kettle of fish so to speak. 4391 could probably do with a full spruce up.
Tony, after piecing together a range of forum posts, is the current refurb list 4148 4172 4185 4186 4508 and 4547 plus the above
Externally, I don't think they look very good.
They probably would look better if they wee repanelled like 4524, it would give a more simplistic appearance to the body, make it easier to maintain
One to look out for then
Quote from: Tony on June 07, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Two more Geminis in for repaint/retrim are 4479 & 4653. Another trident is 4391
Great that they're keeping up the momentum with these - strange they seem to be in no set pattern though - do you know the thinking behind that - are they done when they need major unit replacement or MOT, or when the interior becomes tatty, or a combination?
Quote from: don on June 08, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 07, 2012, 07:53:13 PM
Two more Geminis in for repaint/retrim are 4479 & 4653. Another trident is 4391
Great that they're keeping up the momentum with these - strange they seem to be in no set pattern though - do you know the thinking behind that - are they done when they need major unit replacement or MOT, or when the interior becomes tatty, or a combination?
I would have thought that the each depot just pays for it to be done when required. Unless they're anyway going for Walsall for some work, then it is understandable.
I think each depot is allocated a fund compared to how much revenue it pulls in and they use that for repaints/retrims/new buses, but that's just me applying my own logic.
I think your pretty close, I know its something to do with each garage having a fund for things like refurbs. Like when Lea Hall closed in 2010, they got 20 something buses refurbed in a matter of months because they had the money to do so
Strange comments! I don't understand why people think a vehicle shouldn't be refurbed 'because it doesn't need it'....these vehicles are nearly 10 years old and are still in as delivered spec, including out of date livery. All vehicles should be on a programme of overhaul whatever their condition and when you compare pictures of 4482 etc to a non refurbed exmple, there really is no comparison...
My mistake with the fleetnumber, it is 4475, not 4479 that is currently inpaint
Quote from: andy on June 08, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
Strange comments! I don't understand why people think a vehicle shouldn't be refurbed 'because it doesn't need it'....these vehicles are nearly 10 years old and are still in as delivered spec, including out of date livery. All vehicles should be on a programme of overhaul whatever their condition and when you compare pictures of 4482 etc to a non refurbed exmple, there really is no comparison...
That is only due to iot been a recent refurb. I'd much rather have stripey livery than a dirty refurb like the early AG repaints!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 08, 2012, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: andy on June 08, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
Strange comments! I don't understand why people think a vehicle shouldn't be refurbed 'because it doesn't need it'....these vehicles are nearly 10 years old and are still in as delivered spec, including out of date livery. All vehicles should be on a programme of overhaul whatever their condition and when you compare pictures of 4482 etc to a non refurbed exmple, there really is no comparison...
That is only due to iot been a recent refurb. I'd much rather have stripey livery than a dirty refurb like the early AG repaints!
I understand your point and agree that a lot of early repaints and refurbs were done to a pretty poor standard, but you still have to overhaul vehcles regularly or you risk the ridiculous situation NX have now where until last month there were still 4 different liveries floating about. No bus should reach 10 years with one operator without some form of overhaul.
Quote from: thetruth on May 30, 2012, 10:46:07 PM
Damn, forgot about those. Well done Luke. 2002-2008 then. I'm not counting 4535-4609 cos those were used to replace Metros at Wolverhampton and not intended for the 79. Its not my fault WN were useless at allocating vehicles in the 2000s ;)
True when the 4535-4609 tridents were at wolves I was told they should have been used on the 126 (metros at the time) and on the 501 but as in quote they were put on all the routes where the undesirables ruined them 79's and pendeford routes and bushburys 559,s when they had already had new low floor the last time penn road and warstones routes suffered for years with old buses and clapped out optares until finally the network review and the volvos
A Start has been made on giving BCs 46xx Tridents a full refurb including new Euro 4 engine. I think the first is 4633 currently away at Cummins for the new engine
Saw one of PE's Enviro400s today fresh from the paintshop, looked much better than the one a few metres in front of it
When WN had 4535-4609, they were used acrosss the network morning until night along with the other vehicle types we had back then. The older Tridents, Metrobuses, B10B's, Excels and Solos. Using them automatically on routes like the 512, 525 and 79 was a mistake because 2 were fire damaged after a few months. But in some cases, vandalism has gone down on the Wolverhampton network. Yes the Tridents still get abit messy but the new Volvos, compared to the ones at AG, ours are close to spotless, even our Mercs are cleaner than they have been, the Excels still have it tough on the 25 and 81, Spectras on the 79 and maybe the Solos when theyre on the 11 and 26.
Yes saw a couple of Excel's on the 81 route today looking fairly tatty but they have served very well considering how awful the 81 route is and some of them are still on their first coat of paint. Definetly A) a hotspot for anti-social behaviour and B) some of the hills are absolutely incredible, I know the Black Country routes are renowned for their hills and after travelling on pretty much all of them the 81 has to have some of the steepest and tightest even struggled on some of the hills in the car today so as for a full bus, when the Excel's go I presume more Merc's will be transferred in and used because after having travelled on the B7's with their environmentally friendly engines etc... they really do seem ever so sluggish compared with the older single buses and would really struggle on the 81
I agree that the geminis are in an ok condition, interior wise, I got on 4477 today and the condition isn't bad at all, however I can't speak for the top deck
Quote from: 4504 on June 09, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
I agree that the geminis are in an ok condition, interior wise, I got on 4477 today and the condition isn't bad at all, however I can't speak for the top deck
It's the top deck that is wrecked on most of them. Even the Outer Circle ones are decent downstairs!
Quote from: Ashley on June 08, 2012, 10:11:15 PM
But in some cases, vandalism has gone down on the Wolverhampton network. Yes the Tridents still get abit messy but the new Volvos, compared to the ones at AG, ours are close to spotless,
There are burnt seat backs on the B7RLEs on the 3. I saw the "kid" (~16-18) doing it but don't have a clue how to report him, would probably recognise him on a tape... It's a shame because yes, vandalism in Wolverhampton has really gone down in recent years. Plus the little disks off the backs of the new seats have been ripped off a lot of them.
QuoteYes saw a couple of Excel's on the 81 route
The 81 is an amazing route. Even worse when you consider the worst of the hills has a bus stop in the middle of it! I can't believe the buses get started again after stopping there.
Must say that the Geminis now refurbished are looking new. Saw one a few days ago in Moor Street and you can really tell that NXWM have made an effort to make it sparkle and its worked!
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The 81 is an amazing route. Even worse when you consider the worst of the hills has a bus stop in the middle of it! I can't believe the buses get started again after stopping there.
I know it is! Which is why I'm worried whats going to happen after the Excels are withdrawn, are the Merc's slightly too big perhaps? And would the sluggish new B7's make it up the hills!
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1833.html
The three buses currently in the refurb bays at Walsall are
PE 1627; CV 4202; YW 4391
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1833.html
The three buses currently in the refurb bays at Walsall are
PE 1627; CV 4202; YW 4391
Tony,
4202 is a BC bus and is already in the new livery / re-trimmed, I assume it is a typo
Quote from: Winston on June 09, 2012, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1833.html
The three buses currently in the refurb bays at Walsall are
PE 1627; CV 4202; YW 4391
Tony,
4202 is a BC bus and is already in the new livery / re-trimmed, I assume it is a typo
Yes 4204, The seats at Miller Street for it are labelled up as 4202 which throws me.
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
I like the way that the silver around the headlights and on the grille has been left on. I feel that 1790/1792 look very strange without it.
Quote from: John-s-91 on June 09, 2012, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
I like the way that the silver around the headlights and on the grille has been left on. I feel that 1790/1792 look very strange without it.
I have a feeling 1833 might be going to be branded up for something. It is most unusual for the paintshop to put a bus outside without logos on. The normally only do it when it is waiting for a special set. The paintshop obviously have sets of the normal ones for scanias as 7029 & 7030 have received them
1833 is in service on the 952 this afternoon.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7184015433/in/photostream
4202 sent to coventry from Birmingham Central garage??
No. As I corrected above it is 4204 getting a refurb at Walsall, but Miller Street have the seats labelled as belonging to 4202. The seats for 4202 were only retrimmed about two months ago, so it is just labelling error at Miller Street
What other buses are due in for refurb Tony. I know its a queston ive asked a couple of times, just nice to know these things
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1833.html
The three buses currently in the refurb bays at Walsall are
PE 1627; CV 4202; YW 4391
Take a look at that Ashley^^
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2012, 10:19:43 PM
What other buses are due in for refurb Tony. I know its a queston ive asked a couple of times, just nice to know these things
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
A surprise repaint, but not retrim, is PB 1833
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1833.html
The three buses currently in the refurb bays at Walsall are
PE 1627; CV 4202; YW 4391
Saw 1833 on the 66 today, no branding, just standard fleetnames....the new shade of red makes so much of a difference on the Omnilinks, looked great.
1629 is back in service, refurbed and repainted
Yeah it was saw in service yesterday on the 238 with the new electronic destination blinds
Quote from: Ashley on June 15, 2012, 10:42:17 PM
1629 is back in service, refurbed and repainted
It has already been back in service briefly following refurb until its gearbox went
I didn't know it went for refurb prior to the gearbox issues. Looks much better from the outside
4806 returned from paint shop Friday night
Quote from: richie on June 16, 2012, 05:41:07 PM
4806 returned from paint shop Friday night
Richie,
Are 1633 & 4827 still next to be treated to a repaint?
Typically how long is a bus away for?, now that NX are re-trimming/re-furbishing at the same time as painting them
They are still on the list takes about 2 to 3 weeks for enviro and 3 to 4 for Merc as they have new floors fitted.
Quote from: richie on June 16, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
They are still on the list takes about 2 to 3 weeks for enviro and 3 to 4 for Merc as they have new floors fitted.
Thanks Richie
1633 and have 1647 had new seat covers put in a month or so ago. Wouldnt it be logic to paint both rather than one instead of the other. Hope to see 4806 soon. On that note I saw 4800 in Merry Hill bus station friday afternoon and it had a repaint i think in november, it looked as if nothing had been done to it or is it just my eyes playing up again lol
Quote from: Ashley on June 16, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
1633 and have 1647 had new seat covers put in a month or so ago. Wouldnt it be logic to paint both rather than one instead of the other. Hope to see 4806 soon. On that note I saw 4800 in Merry Hill bus station friday afternoon and it had a repaint i think in november, it looked as if nothing had been done to it or is it just my eyes playing up again lol
Both will probably be painted in time, it will largely be dictated by Pensnett's budget, MOT dates, available slots in the paintshop etc. They will no doubt have to be done one at a time, as Pensnett can't afford to have too many buses away being painted due to total Pvr requirement & reduced engineering spares etc
Two more in for refurb are 1767 & 4337
Thanks Tony
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Quote from: andy on June 08, 2012, 12:25:14 PM
Strange comments! I don't understand why people think a vehicle shouldn't be refurbed 'because it doesn't need it'....these vehicles are nearly 10 years old and are still in as delivered spec, including out of date livery. All vehicles should be on a programme of overhaul whatever their condition and when you compare pictures of 4482 etc to a non refurbed exmple, there really is no comparison...
That is only due to iot been a recent refurb. I'd much rather have stripey livery than a dirty refurb like the early AG repaints!
I understand your point and agree that a lot of early repaints and refurbs were done to a pretty poor standard, but you still have to overhaul vehcles regularly or you risk the ridiculous situation NX have now where until last month there were still 4 different liveries floating about. No bus should reach 10 years with one operator without some form of overhaul.
Which one of the four liveries was lost last month then? Sorry, I've not been keeping up :P
AG 4112 is now at PB weaiting to go into the service support bay for work before repaint
PB 4302 is currently at WB with almost every panel removed halfway through refurb before repaint
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
AG 4112 is now at PB weaiting to go into the service support bay for work before repaint
PB 4302 is currently at WB with almost every panel removed halfway through refurb before repaint
Leaving three more in service carrying branding for the one, those being 4043, 4046 and 4111.
4185 is now back in service got on it on the 957 this morning from Sheldon to Solihull at around 10:05 :) plus 4148 is also back in service seen it on the 97A a couple of days ago :)
Quote from: Stu on May 27, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
4025 is out on the 1 today, and looks 'brand-new' 8)
Compared to the other recently-repainted Presidents on this route today, you can really see the difference, as you can't see the gaps between panels, looks smooth all over.
Nice work, now maybe soon 4111 and 4112 will get the same treatment!
4112 is now in for a Refurb but is currently at the support bay at PB awaiting repanelling ;)
4166 also out today, refurb/repaint
Yep, I got 4166 on the 61/63 this afternoon and wasnt overly impressed. Seats and floor were good-floor hadnt been redone but didnt need to be-but the handrails were in several shades of pink and red etc and looked horrendous.
The floor on 4166 I think may have been done when WN had it repainted in 2007, all the same I remember it being in decent nick but 4148 4185 4186 are ones il look out for, any news on 4172 and 4372
4185's floor is still the same Ashley ;) I also would like to know the news on 4172 & 4372 :)
IN DUNDEE WE HAVE BUSES THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SCRAPED ,AND NEVER SEEN A LICK OF PAINT LET ALONE REFURBISHED. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BUS COMPANY TREAT THEIR VECHICLES LIKE THIS .
Two more at BC are
4172 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4172.html
4315 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4315.html
I wonder if 4172 will get an LED display as it is missing it's Dot Matrix display?
NXWM have done a FANTASTIC Job on both 4172 & 4315 :)
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
Two more at BC are
4172 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4172.html
4315 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4315.html
Why aren't any Tridents fitted with the LED front lights, as the ones fitted on the Presidents. I notice in 4172's photo, that 4041 next to it has LED indicator lights on the front.
I'd love to know why on new buses and buses in for repair, repaint is what looks like a green plastic cover always put over the steering wheel? What is the point? To show the vehicle is Off the road or something?
Quote from: wilmotm on June 22, 2012, 10:04:09 PM
I'd love to know why on new buses and buses in for repair, repaint is what looks like a green plastic cover always put over the steering wheel? What is the point? To show the vehicle is Off the road or something?
Yes, it is to stop a defective vehicle being taken out. An engineer working on a bus should put one of those covers on so no-one other than him or another engineer who knows what is wrong with it jumps in and drives it.
As you may guess from some of the photos on my website I will go in some garages and pose them for nice photographs (with manager's permission). I wouldn't want to move a bus with defectiove brakes or steering and these covers stop that happening
On Tonys point, I must say the shots you take in garages are always great as well as all the others you take, 4315 looks brilliant as does 4172
If there are more to go in, im sure somebody will mention it on here.
I saw 4547 on the 126 today. Along with 4563, its been back a few weeks from its fire damage repairs, but im stumped, the seats were still those fitted last summer, the only thing that looked different was the ceiling, can anyone tell me what happened during the fire and how much damage was caused.
4633 now has its new engine fitted and is at BC having the body refurbishment.
4644 is now at Walsall having a retrim & repaint
Looking forward to seeing 4644 and 4653 on the outer circle new paintwork and interior, the only trouble is, theres less colour to the current standard trim so they fade much more noticeably than say a WA B7RLE. Also, its funny that many of BCs refurbed Tridents started at at WN, its not a big deal, just an observation
Quote from: Ashley on June 25, 2012, 07:51:28 PM
Looking forward to seeing 4644 and 4653 on the outer circle new paintwork and interior, the only trouble is, theres less colour to the current standard trim so they fade much more noticeably than say a WA B7RLE. Also, its funny that many of BCs refurbed Tridents started at at WN, its not a big deal, just an observation
It'd be more likely to see 4644 on the 5, rather than the 11 now.
Is there an allocation for the Gemini's at AG,are some specifically allocated to the 11 and others to the 5. With the pushing back of the city centre emission criteria has swapping of Presidents for Gemini's at AG been stopped. Still seems that Gemini's run 3 out of 4 of the 11 services (Purely an observation). Obviously the Presidents can't run on the 5 due to height issues. Wasn't 4653 previously 11 branded will it be rebranded that way or be unbranded to operate the 11. How many buses does the 5 need it's not exactlly high frequency.May be me being stupid but looked caught an 11 out of the corner of my eye the other day with what looked like slightly revised 11 branding. Are they still going to route brand some Gemini's with new 11 stickers?
Apologies for all the questions which I tried to disguise by not using questions marks, plus clearly I meant unbranded for running the 5 not the 11, apologies my first post
There doesn't appear to be a specific allocation for Geminis/Presidents. Only 7-8 used on the 5, unless you get a Scania Omnilink, or a rare Eclipse2.
The rest of routes that require double deck boards, being the 1, 11A, 11C, 31, 31A, 37, 73 and 966 see mixes of Presidents and Geminis.
On observation, I'd say that the Presidents on the 11 are now equal to the amount of Geminis if not greater, based on what I saw on Saturday in Acocks Green Village, but it doesn't appear to be specific so you might well have a day when it's mainly Gemini and the next where it's mainly President!
Cheers for your response, greatly appreciated. Weekdays definitely seem more Gemini operated although have seen quite a few 11 branded Gemini's on the 5 on Saturday/Sunday
I have not seen many of the volvo ALX200 bodies deckers being refurbed still se a lot in a very tatty TWM livery one was broken down in new invention in the wolverhampton direction (not going to walsall) with branding in I think it was dudley rd evry 5 mins a little out its way?
Quote from: Discodave on June 26, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
I have not seen many of the volvo ALX200 bodies deckers being refurbed still se a lot in a very tatty TWM livery one was broken down in new invention in the wolverhampton direction (not going to walsall) with branding in I think it was dudley rd evry 5 mins a little out its way?
I assume you mean ALX400, not 200.
Also, I didn't know any ALX400s had Dudley Road branding. Are you sure?
Sorry should have relised my cock up yes ALX 400 body it just a green circle with a route frequency of 5 mins and text around was from the older twm period did pass it quick but did see the 5 mins bit there are some pics on the forum of similar buses with this type on but finding it difficult to find them not just double decks
just to add found a pic must have been west brom - Birmingham branding 4227 in the picture site has one but this volvo had no green around the destination
Sounds like a Soho Road branded bus parked at New Invention waiting to start one of their school runs
It was having a leak the bonnet was up and a puddle still a way out for west brom like pennsnet doing the st pauls girl school run on the 9s if they still do it
Quote from: Discodave on June 26, 2012, 05:53:41 PM
It was having a leak the bonnet was up and a puddle still a way out for west brom like pennsnet doing the st pauls girl school run on the 9s if they still do it
West Bromwich garage do a couple of School Runs to Thomas More school in Willenhall, so would have been one of those when it conked
4186 was in BC looking very smart today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4186.html
Perry Barr have now started work on 4112
4186 looks brill!!
Sure i saw Gemini 4506 today in West Brom freshly repainted?
It looks like every garage except Bordesley has buses in for refurb/repaint at the moment
AG - 4112 & 4644
BC - 4428 & 4633
YW - 4372
PB - 4302 & 4479
WB - 4504
WA - 4764
WN - 45xx trident I cannot remember which one it is
PE - 1629
CV - 4204
There are probably at least two more as there are normally two at PB, and I only know of 4112 and one at YW.
1767 has just been completed, photo appearing soon.
1629 recently had LED front displays
Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
It looks like every garage except Bordesley has buses in for refurb/repaint at the moment
AG - 4112 & 4644
BC - 4428 & 4633
YW - 4372
PB - 4302 & 4479
WB - 4504
WA - 4764
WN - 45xx trident I cannot remember which one it is
PE - 1629
CV - 4204
There are probably at least two more as there are normally two at PB, and I only know of 4112 and one at YW.
1767 has just been completed, photo appearing soon.
Tony, I'm assuming the PE Merc refurb is 1627 (typo), as 1629 has been done & is back in service at Pensnett
Looking at the photo of 4428, its having a lot done.
Also, you'd think that 1627 would be one of the last Merc refurbs
If 4504 is getting a refurb, can they do something with the cooling fan noise
4391 back out in service couldn't get which it was on :)
4141 is now repainted & retrimmed (didn't get the new engine)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4141.html
4653 is now in service at AG, first Gemini there with grey spot seats
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4653.html
Was 4653 on the 37s all day Tony?
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
4141 is now repainted & retrimmed (didn't get the new engine)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4141.html
4653 is now in service at AG, first Gemini there with grey spot seats
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4653.html
Tony,
Has the capacity of the paintshop increased? It's just the number of repaints appears to have increased of late and the latest repaints in cargo white & red are far superior in terms of quality
4141 looks great, however the trident next to it could do with a fresh paintjob, even though it was only done 2 years back
No, it is just a lot more of the prep work is being done at garages now, so many arrive only needing painting now, not a complete set of replacement panels first.
4372, the one the skip lorry wrecked the complete offside in January at Shirley Station is another currently in paint at Walsall that was repaired at Carlyle. Walsall garage have finished 4204 now so that should be out very soon as well
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
No, it is just a lot more of the prep work is being done at garages now, so many arrive only needing painting now, not a complete set of replacement panels first.
4372, the one the skip lorry wrecked the complete offside in January at Shirley Station is another currently in paint at Walsall that was repaired at Carlyle. Walsall garage have finished 4204 now so that should be out very soon as well
Thanks Tony!
Personally looking forward to seeing 4204 repainted and re trimmed
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
4141 is now repainted & retrimmed (didn't get the new engine)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4141.html
4653 is now in service at AG, first Gemini there with grey spot seats
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4653.html
4653 seen out yesterday on the 11.
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
4653 is now in service at AG, first Gemini there with grey spot seats
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4653.html
It's been back a while, spotted it the other weekend going past my house. Had a good view inside as was queuing in traffic while on the 1, nice paint job and looks smart with the new seat trim, almost looks brand new!
Did however spot 4644 today on a 37E journey looking freshly repainted, couldn't see if it had been retrimmed though.
Yesterday I also noticed one of the Outer Circle Geminis (also on the 37!) while still branded and in the old livery, had definitely had new windows, as there were no etching marks (can't remember the fleet number though!).
4644 seen today on the 11E terminating in Acocks Green at around 1520ish. Must have gone onto the 37 extras between Acocks Green and Solihull. It does look quite good to be honest.
Which garages normally do the prep work as i know WB have reconstructed some buses back to normal like when 1699 had its accident and wondered if garages preped there own vehicles before beiing repainted or are sent to particular garages first then sent off for a repaint.
All the refurbished Mercs should have been done like 1699 because they put a new floor down during its repairs, the inside just looks much brighter and appealing than the rest
Quote from: Rob H on July 10, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
4391 back out in service couldn't get which it was on :)
4391
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7556919800
4184 has had a tidy up with new logo's and loss of connection bars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7556935368
Im presuming this hasnt had new seats, but look at that, on the 90, its usual haunt
Quote from: Ashley on July 12, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
Im presuming this hasnt had new seats, but look at that, on the 90, its usual haunt
No it hasn't had new seats Ashley.
Just to confirm, 4644 has been retrimmed internally with the dotted seats. I think AG are on their way to lose the old seat trim as well, with only 4033 and a bunch of Geminis not in one of the newer trims.
I thought 4033 had new trim back in 2007 or is that what you mean
Quote from: Ashley on July 12, 2012, 08:15:31 PM
I thought 4033 had new trim back in 2007 or is that what you mean
No, 4033 still has the same trim as it had when new. It was the first President to be refurbished and they used the old TWM trim the same as before.
Quote from: Ashley on July 12, 2012, 08:15:31 PM
I thought 4033 had new trim back in 2007 or is that what you mean
Take a look at this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5560948173/
You can see through the downstairs windows that it's in the TWM trim.
Seems like a bit of a waste of two repaints if its not been retrimmed the same as the other Presidents
Quote from: Ashley on July 12, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
Seems like a bit of a waste of two repaints if its not been retrimmed the same as the other Presidents
It has been fully refurbished like all 4023-4124. It was the very first President to be refurbished, at a time when they were still using the old trim, so it is only a matter of months older than the other Presidents as far as interior condition is concerned.
I know that, I just mean the then new type of trim was already being phased in at the time of 4033s toothpaste refurb (April 2007), mind you I suppose they did the same with 600 sending it back in old style trim, I suppose to put a positive spin on it, it makes it somewhat unique
More currently bring done are
1653, 1753, 4026, 4238, 4203, 4444, 4619, 4633
Tony,
Is 4619 also having a new Euro 4 engine?
Quote from: Tony on July 22, 2012, 09:22:33 AM
More currently bring done are
1653, 1753, 4026, 4238, 4203, 4444, 4619, 4633
Think I saw 4302 on the 94 yesterday looking immaculate
Quote from: Winston on July 22, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
Tony,
Is 4619 also having a new Euro 4 engine?
Quote from: Tony on July 22, 2012, 09:22:33 AM
More currently bring done are
1653, 1753, 4026, 4238, 4203, 4444, 4619, 4633
I would presume so, I don't known
1653 is at WB being done
1753 is in Walsall Paintshop
4026s seats are at Miller Street, don't know where the bus is
4238 & 4444 are waiting outside Walsall paint
4203 is being done in Walsall garage
4619s seats are at Miller Street
4633 was at Central, possibly now inside the paint at Walsall
Thanks for the info. Can never help but think when they repaint Mercs now that is this going to be the last one to be done
I think 4633 is now back in service cos I seen a 46*3 Trident in NXWM Livery on the 957 at Yardley Swan heading for Birmingham This Morning :)
Quote from: Rob H on July 23, 2012, 10:23:04 PM
I think 4633 is now back in service cos I seen a 46*3 Trident in NXWM Livery on the 957 at Yardley Swan heading for Birmingham This Morning :)
4633 was working the 957 all day today, and I think it was on Saturday as well.
Quote from: Michael on July 23, 2012, 10:25:42 PM
Quote from: Rob H on July 23, 2012, 10:23:04 PM
I think 4633 is now back in service cos I seen a 46*3 Trident in NXWM Livery on the 957 at Yardley Swan heading for Birmingham This Morning :)
4633 was working the 957 all day today, and I think it was on Saturday as well.
Yes, photo now added to main site
BC seem to have switched and are using the same technique as AG with the destinations. They have Solihull stretched on the display, then changing to Solihull Station via ???
I've seen YW do the same on the 6, as well as an Omnilink.
Is 1653 going to be the penultimate Merc refurb/repaint?
I would think the T and V reg mercs will be with NXWM for some time yet as there are alot of older single deckers to replace so i would think there will be more repaints and refurbs to happen, may be wrong tho.
Quote from: Ash on July 23, 2012, 11:53:04 PM
I would think the T and V reg mercs will be with NXWM for some time yet as there are alot of older single deckers to replace so i would think there will be more repaints and refurbs to happen, may be wrong tho.
1628-1707 would probably go on for a few years used on local Wolverhampton & Dudley routes. Obviously most of this batch is in decent nick so it would be fine. Logic would be to complete all of 1750-1843 and 4125-4736 first though, but then logic is something NX management are unaware of.
Quote from: Michael on July 24, 2012, 01:42:48 AM
but then logic is something NX management are unaware of.
They normally have a 'cunning plan' - which no one can totally second guess!
Quote from: don on July 24, 2012, 02:42:04 AM
Quote from: Michael on July 24, 2012, 01:42:48 AM
but then logic is something NX management are unaware of.
They normally have a 'cunning plan' - which no one can totally second guess!
Like when they repainted a load of B10Bs and scrapped the lot lol, well we didn't second guess it then, but can now with the repaint of the Mercs.
Quote from: Michael on July 24, 2012, 04:11:25 AM
Quote from: don on July 24, 2012, 02:42:04 AM
Quote from: Michael on July 24, 2012, 01:42:48 AM
but then logic is something NX management are unaware of.
They normally have a 'cunning plan' - which no one can totally second guess!
Like when they repainted a load of B10Bs and scrapped the lot lol, well we didn't second guess it then, but can now with the repaint of the Mercs.
Michael I don't think any B10Bs went to the scrap yard without seeing a good deal of use - you only have to look at Flickr to see the very strange goings on in the 70s when large organisations like WMPTE sent repanelled buses to the scrap yard before the paint was applied or just after it was in some cases, London Transport scored a world record by storing a Fleetline when it was less than a year old and never using it again, and British Rail was busy sending newly repainted diesels to the scrap yard.
NXWM look positively logical against this backdrop. As I say, I'm sure they have it all planned out - but if you spend a few thousand pounds retrimming and repainting, and then the vehicle has a major mechanical failure, the decision to repair may indeed be marginal - remember a repaint costs about £1000 (Tony's figure, I think) - new mecanical units would be significantly more. I'm guessing refurbs are expected to have a decent life left to offset the expenditure against income and to allow for the cost of ongoing maintenance or mechanical unit renewal.
I did see 4170 driving through town on Monday 23rd July not in service with engineer driving, all the old dot matrix destinations have been removed (I saw that the front and rear had been removed).
Maybe next refurb/repaint?
Seen 4170 today by the Man on the Moon Pub with an engineer driving heading towards Birmingham while i was on 4615
Also 4428 is now back in service it was on the 97/97A today. Fantastic Job NXWM :)
1753 back out today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7711699922/
if not mentioned already, 4817 has been done aswell, plus a YW Trident, couldn't catch the number. John what camera do you use if you don't mind me asking?
Quote from: Ashley on August 04, 2012, 09:28:47 PM
if not mentioned already, 4817 has been done aswell, plus a YW Trident, couldn't catch the number. John what camera do you use if you don't mind me asking?
Samsung PL201
Always great photos
I agree. Theyre always good photos.... ;D
Quote from: Ashley on August 04, 2012, 09:40:17 PM
Always great photos
Cheers Ash and Peter, Well most of the time they are! Nice to know people appreciate them.
Anyway, has anyone seen 4141 out in service since repaint, as I haven't yet. Unusual, as I usually find Central's refurbs within 2 weeks from completion, and it has been nearly a month and not seen it even once. I'm just probably not looking in the right places!
I'm still waiting to see 4141. Back to my earlier post, about seeing a repainted YW Trident, after seeing Tony's update it was 4393 i saw, apologies
Quote from: Ashley on August 05, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
I'm still waiting to see 4141. Back to my earlier post, about seeing a repainted YW Trident, after seeing Tony's update it was 4393 i saw, apologies
4372 will probably be the next YW one. It arrived back at Walsall with a brand new offside rebuilt after the accident, Walsall are now completely panelling the nearside to match as well as giving it an interior tidy up. As you may see from the photographs 4444 is now having major work done on it. 4431 is also at Walsall started. Perry Barr have sent 4497 to paint now 4476 is back
4476 looks great in your picture Tony. What are they doing to 4444?
Why hasn't 4490 been done yet!? It is a right state! Seen last night with an headlight out as well!
Some PB Geminis are abit worse for wear such as 4488 and 4490. But they probably just haven't yet been chosen to go for refurb and will be done soon
Quote from: Ashley on August 05, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Some PB Geminis are abit worse for wear such as 4488 and 4490. But they probably just haven't yet been chosen to go for refurb and will be done soon
4478, 4481, 4490 and ALX400 4303 are all in desperate need of refurbs.
Quote from: Ashley on August 05, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
I'm still waiting to see 4141. Back to my earlier post, about seeing a repainted YW Trident, after seeing Tony's update it was 4393 i saw, apologies
4393 is at Central, not Yardley Wood, have you seen this one Ashley and still thought it was at YW, or maybe you saw another one.
Quote from: Ashley on August 05, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Some PB Geminis are abit worse for wear such as 4488 and 4490. But they probably just haven't yet been chosen to go for refurb and will be done soon
You beat me to it Ashley, I was just going to give 4488 a mention, caught it last week....in a shocking state. 4497 was one of the tidier ones.....but as I've mentioned before, MOT dates and all that sort of stuff normally determine this just as much.
John, I was on a crowded 4335 on the 49 coming into Solihull when I got a split second sighting of a 43xx Trident freshly repainted. I thought it was 4391 or 4337 but it was 4393 and I accept I made a mistake.
Two more that appear to being done at the moment are 4138, first Walsall trident to be done since 4128 was painted white! and 4026
Seen 4501 i think it was on Walsall Road last night heading towards walsall, maybe a refurb due?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 09, 2012, 10:18:19 PM
Seen 4501 i think it was on Walsall Road last night heading towards walsall, maybe a refurb due?
Probably correct, PB had just finished some bodywork repairs on it when I left there last night
4677 has been repainted again and refurbished (on the 966 seen at the Airport)
4204
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839360630
4138 is back out in service today seen on the X51
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839394570
There are two more AG Geminis at Walsall as well, cannot remember which two at the moment.
4238 is refurbished and now at Walsall for repaint.
4497 is now back at PB and 4488 has gone to Walsall for repaint/retrim
4138 is out at the moment on 8/89
4677 seen today in Solihull (poss. on the 5) in shiny version of livery (4644/53).
Seems a lot of WN tridents are in old twm livery looks like they have been forgotten about most of the black country garages are suffering now the low emmission zone is coming in Brum give them all the new buses cascade the crap to the others (except for deliveries due unless they get diverted if the hybrids go to wolves I would be suprised)
Wolverhampton have restarted refurbs with 4565 currently at Trailways at Bloxwich. 4678 is another AG Gemini at Walsall
i thought nxwm did all their own refurbs in house
I wondered where 4565 had disappeared to
Quote from: mranon on August 29, 2012, 09:54:27 PM
i thought nxwm did all their own refurbs in house
I thought so too, thought weren't the Scania bendys repainted by an outside company?
Quote from: nx4737 on August 30, 2012, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: mranon on August 29, 2012, 09:54:27 PM
i thought nxwm did all their own refurbs in house
I thought so too, thought weren't the Scania bendys repainted by an outside company?
NXWM do the bulk of refurbishments in house via service support, but they have used Trailways at times in the past, WJF in Castle Bromwich & more recently had a Trident refurbished by Rowan Telmac in Coventry
I think it was 4185 that went to Rowan telmac
4337 refurb
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7901382596
4619 is also now out
Quote from: John-s-91 on August 05, 2012, 11:51:38 AM
Anyway, has anyone seen 4141 out in service since repaint,
I'm still waiting to find 4141. Has anyone seen it out in service?
Seen 4112 out on the 1 this morning looks fantastic Great Job NXWM :)
4055 being debranded from 451, panels off everywhere in garage for repaint - first one to be done ahead of the sandwell review, others to follow soon.
Quote from: wbdriver on September 07, 2012, 08:02:33 PM
4055 being debranded from 451, panels off everywhere in garage for repaint - first one to be done ahead of the sandwell review, others to follow soon.
Ah good, was wondering today if they would be de-branded, or if the 4 and the 1 would be taken off the side windows, leaving the 5 for the new route number.
Two more being done are 1751 & 4716
Noticed today, and on several occasions previously, that while AG's 4677 looks very nice with its new paint job and refurbed interior, they could have replaced the front LED display, as there are several 'dead' LEDs and the right-hand side is dimmer than the rest!
Next trident getting the full works including engine is 4634
Got my first ride on one of the refurbed Geminis today, 4653, on a short 37E to Acocks Green, and while they do look nice now inside with the new seat trim, it does look a little odd on the blue plastic seats, compared to the grey plastic seats on the Omnilinks and Urban 2s.
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
Next trident getting the full works including engine is 4634
Thought I hadn't seen 4634 for a while 8)
somebody mentioned about 4600 was on 59 still in twm livery
Thinking of the tridents at WN most of the 46** series buses are still in old livery are they ever going to get done looking at they way refurbs are being done the livery will be changed again (look at the number of red variations) or the company will have new owners (not to say they will doing too well)
Its just a case of looking at the most battered ones and sending them. Next to go is 4599.
4565 should be back next week.
are nxwm going to be bothering refurbing the remaining few crusaders??
Quote from: arrivaaston on September 13, 2012, 10:56:26 PM
are nxwm going to be bothering refurbing the remaining few crusaders??
The last B6LE to be refurbished was some time ago, the 30 x Midis due in Dec will see off more of the these, so unlikely any more will be treated
4490 is one of the worst and has still not been done! Saw it one night with the paint all of the roof with one headlight working! it looked shocking especially for nxwm!
4055, 4486 & 4801 all currently have their seats being retrimmed at Miller Street
Still seems just such a needless expense to refurb PE Enviro's when there is so, so, so many other buses in the fleet that are crying out for a refurb, all of WN's 126 Tridents for example and so many of the Dudley Road Gemini's that are 8 years old compared to the Enviro's 3! And how about WB and PE's still huge allocation of Merc's? Surely some of them need to be done as there is no news of another 150+ bus order in the next year or so to replace them
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 14, 2012, 01:11:51 PM
4490 is one of the worst and has still not been done! Saw it one night with the paint all of the roof with one headlight working! it looked shocking especially for nxwm!
Yes, it's awful. 4477 and 4478 have also seen better days. 4481, 4303 and 4246 are also very tired looking.
Noticed today while walking past 4112 parked up in Acocks Green that not only has it been repainted, its also had all its seats retrimmed.
I guess that means that the Presidents still have a long-term future, have any other Presidents also had new seats?
Quote from: Stu on September 14, 2012, 07:06:25 PM
Noticed today while walking past 4112 parked up in Acocks Green that not only has it been repainted, its also had all its seats retrimmed.
I guess that means that the Presidents still have a long-term future, have any other Presidents also had new seats?
Yes several. every bus repainted for at least the last year has been retrimmed except 1833.
Quote from: Stu on September 14, 2012, 07:06:25 PM
Noticed today while walking past 4112 parked up in Acocks Green that not only has it been repainted, its also had all its seats retrimmed.
I guess that means that the Presidents still have a long-term future, have any other Presidents also had new seats?
They must have a good few years left in service somewhere in the West Midlands (Pensnett could have some for the 246, and other local routes that need double deckers).
Did 4025 get the grey seats? Looking at my picture, it looks like it still has the dark blue seats as well.
Quote from: Winston on September 13, 2012, 11:08:31 PM
The last B6LE to be refurbished was some time ago, the 30 x Midis due in Dec will see off more of the these, so unlikely any more will be treated
584 and 661 are the latest withdrawals from Coventry, replaced by 1635/6.
That makes 48 left in service according to my fleetlist. Most are in NXWM/NXC livery (apart from 648, 650, 652 and 674) and most will be refurbished already inside, 648 and 674 are refurbished inside with dark blue seats, both still in TWM livery.
Quote from: Tony on September 14, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 14, 2012, 07:06:25 PM
Noticed today while walking past 4112 parked up in Acocks Green that not only has it been repainted, its also had all its seats retrimmed.
I guess that means that the Presidents still have a long-term future, have any other Presidents also had new seats?
Yes several. every bus repainted for at least the last year has been retrimmed except 1833.
Odd, because 4112 is the first repainted President at AG that has had the new seat trim. Or at least the first one I've seen!
The Presidents will still be around a lot longer than the Spectras I hope! ;D
Every bus since late 2010 has had new seats upon repaint, the exceptions being 4610,4503,4256,1677,1833
Has 4025 got the new trim? I dont think so but can't remember.
Quote from: Michael on September 15, 2012, 05:59:05 AM
Has 4025 got the new trim? I dont think so but can't remember.
I don't think it has, Looking at my picture, it still has the dark blue it was refurbished with in 2007.
There may be a few others that haven't had new trim since it became almost standard, im not sure
whats going on with the 46** seires tridents at wolves just being left and are tatty everything else seems to be being done some which are a lot older
4678 now back in service on the 31 this morning
The seats from 4046 are now at Miller Street, so that looks like AG's next, and then there was one?
Here is 1627 refurbed - http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7996811362
And 1629 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7996807014
Now new ones, but have not seen any other pictures of them
Quote from: thetruth on September 17, 2012, 05:11:02 PM
Aren't there two others - 4043 and 4111?
Yeah, two more.
AG to be the first 100% NXWM livery depot then?
Quote from: Michael on September 17, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
AG to be the first 100% NXWM livery depot then?
That looks more than likely.
4599 gone for paint from WN today.
Is 4565 back then?
Quote from: Ashley on September 18, 2012, 09:42:26 PM
Is 4565 back then?
Is there any news on when 4444 and 4238 refurbs will be completed?
4182 is another being done
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
4182 is another being done
Is 4182 a standard refurb or new engine jobby?
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
4182 is another being done
Is 4182 a standard refurb or new engine jobby?
I think just a standard, All I know is the seats are at Miller St
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2012, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2012, 09:36:38 PM
4182 is another being done
Is 4182 a standard refurb or new engine jobby?
I think just a standard, All I know is the seats are at Miller St
Just noticed 4182 its actually a YW Trident, when I saw that automatically assumed it was a BC one
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 18, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Michael on September 17, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
AG to be the first 100% NXWM livery depot then?
That looks more than likely.
It may be 100% livery, but I bet it wont be 100% fleetname!
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
It may be 100% livery, but I bet it wont be 100% fleetname!
Acocks Green were doing good with the names on all of the B10L's and President/Gemini's changed to the Current fleetnames. But recent transfers in from BC/WB have messed it up, with the 'temporary' fleet names coming back to Acocks Green, and Acocks Green have not been replacing the logo's of late, as they were last year.
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 18, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Michael on September 17, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
AG to be the first 100% NXWM livery depot then?
That looks more than likely.
It may be 100% livery, but I bet it wont be 100% fleetname!
Why not?
AG are currently tidying up their entire fleet, removing the bars from Geminis and replacing all outdated fleetnames
here is a tidied up 4679
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4679.html
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 18, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: Michael on September 17, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
AG to be the first 100% NXWM livery depot then?
That looks more than likely.
It may be 100% livery, but I bet it wont be 100% fleetname!
AG is one garage that has replaced a lot of the interim fleetnames to full NXWM, currently a number of its fleet that received early repaints with full connections bars the have sections missing due to replacement panels are having the lot completely removed to improve there appearance. All other garages need to start following suit. NXC's attempt to remove the WM bit off interim logo's & some Travel Coventry fleetnames also seems a half hearted attempt
Must admit looking at the one photo Tony linked to, its a shame the missing connection bars make the fleetname look off centre!
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
NXC's attempt to remove the WM bit off interim logo's & some Travel Coventry fleetnames also seems a half hearted attempt
I do agree with that. You need to look at Dundee's fleet, I think all of their buses either in new red/white livery or old low floor livery all have the National Express Dundee fleetnames and they look a whole lot better.
Coventry's attempt actually make them look worse with some buses not having any fleetnames at all and a few of the Mercedes having a non standard NXC logo with the twin peaks logo and the 'part of' removed, so the logo reads 'Coventry National Express' on 2 lines. Some have just has the twin peaks removed, but still look just as bad.
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2012, 10:35:24 PM
Must admit looking at the one photo Tony linked to, its a shame the missing connection bars make the fleetname look off centre!
It's in exactly the same position as all the latest repaints / fleetnames (with small connection bars) i.e. first full panel after the front wheelarch
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4619.html
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 19, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
NXC's attempt to remove the WM bit off interim logo's & some Travel Coventry fleetnames also seems a half hearted attempt
I do agree with that. You need to look at Dundee's fleet, I think all of their buses either in new red/white livery or old low floor livery all have the National Express Dundee fleetnames and they look a whole lot better.
Coventry's attempt actually make them look worse with some buses not having any fleetnames at all and a few of the Mercedes having a non standard NXC logo with the twin peaks logo and the 'part of' removed, so the logo reads 'Coventry National Express' on 2 lines. Some have just has the twin peaks removed, but still look just as bad.
Quite a few of Coventry bendi buses still have the travel coventry logos but in the new NX Coventry colour.
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 19, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
NXC's attempt to remove the WM bit off interim logo's & some Travel Coventry fleetnames also seems a half hearted attempt
I do agree with that. You need to look at Dundee's fleet, I think all of their buses either in new red/white livery or old low floor livery all have the National Express Dundee fleetnames and they look a whole lot better.
Coventry's attempt actually make them look worse with some buses not having any fleetnames at all and a few of the Mercedes having a non standard NXC logo with the twin peaks logo and the 'part of' removed, so the logo reads 'Coventry National Express' on 2 lines. Some have just has the twin peaks removed, but still look just as bad.
Surely it would have took them longer to remove parts of the old fleetnames than just whipping off the whole thing & replacing it with the current one
Why can't other garages learn from the benchmark AG has set. Personally i think it's cringe worthy on behalf of NXWM or whatever they are calling themselves.
Perry Barr especially shoddy looking fleet, from what i witness.
4444 is back from refurb at BC
Quote from: Ash on September 19, 2012, 10:44:18 PM
Quite a few of Coventry bendi buses still have the travel coventry logos but in the new NX Coventry colour.
I think that is because they are printed onto the glass and are not like how the logo's are applied to the normal buses.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 20, 2012, 12:03:34 AM
Perry Barr especially shoddy looking fleet, from what i witness.
Oh yes, I quite agree.
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Just noticed 4182 its actually a YW Trident, when I saw that automatically assumed it was a BC one
I thought that as well, must be the amount of older Trident's Central have had refurbed lately.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on September 20, 2012, 01:21:25 AM
4444 is back from refurb at BC
Cool, thanks. 4238 should not be long then.
The next refurb I really need to find is 4141, never seen it even though it was completed over 2 months ago. Do you know if it is out and about?
Quote from: Tony on August 05, 2012, 02:55:11 PM
4372 will probably be the next YW one
4372 is now back in service, I have heard today.
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 20, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Just noticed 4182 its actually a YW Trident, when I saw that automatically assumed it was a BC one
I thought that as well, must be the amount of older Trident's Central have had refurbed lately.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on September 20, 2012, 01:21:25 AM
4444 is back from refurb at BC
Cool, thanks. 4238 should not be long then.
The next refurb I really need to find is 4141, never seen it even though it was completed over 2 months ago. Do you know if it is out and about?
4238 was on the 94 today. Photograph on the main site in about 5 minutes
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2012, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: John-s-91 on September 20, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 19, 2012, 10:04:32 PM
Just noticed 4182 its actually a YW Trident, when I saw that automatically assumed it was a BC one
I thought that as well, must be the amount of older Trident's Central have had refurbed lately.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on September 20, 2012, 01:21:25 AM
4444 is back from refurb at BC
Cool, thanks. 4238 should not be long then.
The next refurb I really need to find is 4141, never seen it even though it was completed over 2 months ago. Do you know if it is out and about?
4238 was on the 94 today. Photograph on the main site in about 5 minutes
Nice to see one of these getting the full treatment....will they be working through the others or are they clearing the Geminis first?
I've also heard 4372 is back
1645 seen fitted with Digital blinds even though it is still in its first ever livery with white gap behind front wheels and some of the tattiest seats going, presume its got to be one of PE's next refurbs otherwise where's the sense in putting in digital blinds
Quote from: andy on September 26, 2012, 10:57:38 AM
Nice to see one of these getting the full treatment....will they be working through the others or are they clearing the Geminis first?
It would make sense to do refurbs in age order, but the Gemini's, especially the ex-33 ones may be more worn out inside than the B7 ALX400's. A lot more Gemini's are been refurbed than ALX400's recently.
4509 is the latest PB one to go in for refurb
Quote from: thetruth on September 26, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Cue some smartarse saying thats a WB one.
Oh.
Correct, 4509 is the next WB one! I presume this means 4716 is now back at WB
<new garage opening soon it may be allocated there when it comes back>
Quote from: thetruth on September 26, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Cue some smartarse saying thats a WB one.
Oh.
I presume WB may take priority in the paint shop/refurb bays for the next month or so, in order to increase the number of buses in NX livery what with the impending Sandwell Review soon to be implemented
Quote from: Tony on September 26, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: thetruth on September 26, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Cue some smartarse saying thats a WB one.
Oh.
Correct, 4509 is the next WB one! I presume this means 4716 is now back at WB
<new garage opening soon it may be allocated there when it comes back>
It is opening that quick?, any idea of address so we can view planning application
This must be the first new garage theyve opened for ages-sign of success...
Quote from: Peter123 on September 26, 2012, 07:26:25 PM
This must be the first new garage theyve opened for ages-sign of success...
Since LH closed a number of garages are full/close to capacity, the last few network reviews have resulted in increases to Pvrs so I guess it's inevitable that a new garage would have to be opened at some point, not forgetting the recently sourced additional plot of land at Pensnett garage which could be used for further expansion down the line should the need arise, garages with open parking areas are more cost effective to run than the traditional covered garages.
Anyone any idea about how big the plot's gonna be, how many buses are gonna be based there or what routes theyre going to run on?
is 4565 back yet?
Quote from: wilmotm on September 26, 2012, 12:38:06 PM
1645 seen fitted with Digital blinds even though it is still in its first ever livery with white gap behind front wheels and some of the tattiest seats going, presume its got to be one of PE's next refurbs otherwise where's the sense in putting in digital blinds
Drove it last night sounded like it has a new engine and drove nice
Quote from: pensnettdriver on September 27, 2012, 09:50:13 AM
Quote from: wilmotm on September 26, 2012, 12:38:06 PM
1645 seen fitted with Digital blinds even though it is still in its first ever livery with white gap behind front wheels and some of the tattiest seats going, presume its got to be one of PE's next refurbs otherwise where's the sense in putting in digital blinds
Drove it last night sounded like it has a new engine and drove nice
It just needs a repaint now out of its as delivered livery and an internal refurb
4431 is now Refubished and Repainted it's currently on my route 60
4599 has only just gone. If 4609 has damage it may be a while. As with 4601 as that hasnt gone just yet.
4488 now back at PB, photo on main site soon
Better charge my camera up :D
4444 was out on the Bristol Road today,
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4444.html
first time I have seen that one out
4444 was running about on the Bristol Road yesterday as well. Looks very smart.
Any chance of the Omnicity Double decks getting a paint job into new livery?
Got on 4337,4372 and 4444 today, I'm pretty impressed, all three virtually spotless and looking great, iv got a photo of 4372 if anybody is interested
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 30, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
Buses at wolverhampton that need repainting.
4536,4539,4540,4542( The ex green branded 79 tridents)
1672 needs to be repainted as it has never been repainted and looks quite tatty.
Add 4321 to that list too!
I'd put 4590 on the list, no it hasn't had branding but many of its seats are the ones it had from new
Quote from: Ashley on September 30, 2012, 12:07:55 AM
Got on 4337,4372 and 4444 today, I'm pretty impressed, all three virtually spotless and looking great, iv got a photo of 4372 if anybody is interested
Spotted 4372 at the Maypole and must agree it looked good.
Quote from: Ashley on September 30, 2012, 10:28:47 PM
I'd put 4590 on the list, no it hasn't had branding but many of its seats are the ones it had from new
Sorry 4585 going in next, heading to Walsall tomorrow in fact as 4609 is back!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 01, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
So when is 4609 back exactly. Will it go mainly back on the 59 or be avaliable for any route all of the time
Should be in the yard as we speak.
4565 looks great btw, saw it on the 529 this morning
Like 4609 noticed there is a lot of sd buses on the 59 I have read about some buses but have they had a joblot of wolves tridents in even the spectras have stopped appearing on the 59 I assume they have gone back to the 79
Quote from: rob@mdc on October 01, 2012, 07:19:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 01, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
So when is 4609 back exactly. Will it go mainly back on the 59 or be avaliable for any route all of the time
Should be in the yard as we speak.
Sneak Preview:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8048144367/in/photostream
Yes It's back!!!!!
but will it receive branding????
Quote from: 4006 on October 02, 2012, 08:55:16 PM
Sneak Preview:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8048144367/in/photostream
Yes It's back!!!!!
but will it receive branding????
I wish NX would make their mind up! Without mini connection bars again!!
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 02, 2012, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: 4006 on October 02, 2012, 08:55:16 PM
Sneak Preview:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8048144367/in/photostream
Yes It's back!!!!!
but will it receive branding????
I wish NX would make their mind up! Without mini connection bars again!!
Maybe not the finished article? I'll have a poke round tomoz if not in service. Maybe the old kellogs ad off 4565 gotta be stuck on yet :)
Quote from: 4006 on October 02, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
Maybe not the finished article? I'll have a poke round tomoz if not in service. Maybe the old kellogs ad off 4565 gotta be stuck on yet :)
Possibly. Looks very nice all the same though!
That Sqaures ad just made 4565 look hideous. They took it off for about a week in Jan 2011, it was WNs externally cleanest bus at the time lol
A
Quote from: Ashley on October 02, 2012, 09:05:15 PM
That Sqaures ad just made 4565 look hideous. They took it off for about a week in Jan 2011, it was WNs externally cleanest bus at the time lol
All the same I find the Ad buses quite amazing as you can still see through the windows fine in fact sometimes you don't even realise its an ad bus till you get off it or the fleet number registers!! :o
I suppose its like having tinted windows on the one side
1641 & 4214 are two more being done
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 02, 2012, 09:54:12 PM
Thank you 4006 for taking that photo. 4600 is my favorite bus hence my name on the forum.
Will it enter service tommorow and any idea what route it will enter service on its first day out back in service?
Any info I have I will let you know. no doubt you probably see it in service before me!!!!!
Quote from: Tony on October 02, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
1641 & 4214 are two more being done
Tony,
I'm assuming 4214 is a typo? as its already been done,
I would have thought 1643 would have been a higher priority looking a your recent photo of it, or even one day 1645 may get treated to its first ever repaint
Quote from: Winston on October 02, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 02, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
1641 & 4214 are two more being done
Tony,
I'm assuming 4214 is a typo? as its already been done,
I would have thought 1643 would have been a higher priority looking a your recent photo of it, or even one day 1645 may get treated to its first ever repaint
Should be 4413, also 4318, 4805
4413 is very poor condition. Is 4413 going to repaint?
Got a piccy of 4801 on the 141 today fresh from the paintshop
Quote from: Daniel541 on October 03, 2012, 03:43:21 PM
4413 is very poor condition. Is 4413 going to repaint?
yep 4413 is at WB being refurbished.
4055 has disappeared from garage for repaint possibly?
4478 next from PB
Quote from: Ashley on October 03, 2012, 09:29:03 PM
Got a piccy of 4801 on the 141 today fresh from the paintshop
I know that some of the PE 48xx Enviros look a bit tatty, but why are buses delivered new in 2009 in the new corporate livery being repainted while there are still hundreds of buses in the old livery that haven't seen a coat of paint in years ?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 05, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
4609 is now back out. i caught it late this afternoon looking great on the 59 but without return advertising. I wonder if this will still stay on the 59 like the other return tridents do.
Passed its MOT this morning too!!
Quote from: Roy on October 05, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
I know that some of the PE 48xx Enviros look a bit tatty, but why are buses delivered new in 2009 in the new corporate livery being repainted while there are still hundreds of buses in the old livery that haven't seen a coat of paint in years ?
4801 was almost pink and looked incredibly tatty for a fairly new bus working on a high profile route. Presumably some problem with the original paint spec or maybe particularly strong bus washing solution at Pensnett?
4716 now out on the 87, 4621 is the next new engine refurb
Here's 4372 looking very shiny
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060002585
And 4112 -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060001855
A not so good pic of 4801
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060023597
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 06, 2012, 08:31:13 PM
Here's 4372 looking very shiny
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060002585
And 4112 -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060001855
A not so good pic of 4801
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8060023597
Great pics!
I saw 4372 passing me earlier, and they actually look half decent when they're all shiny and have no advert frame. Great pics as always John
I wasn't expecting that!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0718/584.html
Been on 584 a couple of times in Coventry on the old number 11 service and seems to be one of the best b6le in the fleet
Quote from: Ash on October 06, 2012, 10:54:33 PM
Been on 584 a couple of times in Coventry on the old number 11 service and seems to be one of the best b6le in the fleet
I have been on 584 on the 801 a while back and I agree Ash, it was a good ride for a B6, glad it is now in a proper livery after 2 years. Another good B6 to ride on is 244, especially with it's headrests.
This probably will be the last B6 ever re-painted then, 584 was good at PE as well so glad its back in the West Midlands, but I suppose it was easy for WA to paint it as they have the paint shop on site, probably would never have bothered if it had gone back to PE
Yeah 584 is one of the best ones. Rode it on the 30 a few times and it was certainly much better than 627 was! This probably will be the last Crusader repaint sadly.
Must mean it's got a couple of years left :)
Well the paintshop is full of surprises! I wonder how long it will last in service now.
Until the engine overheats and blows up ;)
Quote from: A1991 on October 07, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Until the engine overheats and blows up ;)
There are plenty of replacement engines kicking around Miller St, it's more likely to get withdrawn if it receives substantial accident damage or chassis / bodywork corrosion is found
Some of AGs B6LEs were withdrawn just a few months after being repainted. Some were given to good homes, others never made it back into service!
There was 553 as well. Repainted, and then used at West Brom for under a week before been withdrawn.
Was 584 the last all-white bus still in normal use?
THE NEW SHADE OF RED HAS MADE IT UP NORTH TO DUNDEE.GOT TO AGREE IT LOOKS BETTER AND HOPEFULLY LAST LONGER BEFORE TURNING PINK.
Quote from: JIM C on October 08, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
THE NEW SHADE OF RED HAS MADE IT UP NORTH TO DUNDEE.GOT TO AGREE IT LOOKS BETTER AND HOPEFULLY LAST LONGER BEFORE TURNING PINK.
Jim,
Which is the first NXD bus to receive the latest shade of red? Has the cargo white also had it north?
584 is operating from wb today. Its been on the 405 service and already as black marks on its front.
Both of WN's recent refurbs (4565 and 4609) were on the 255 looking immaculate inside and out, and still with that "as new" smell. Unfortunately, 4609 did an impromptu lap of Wombourne Village Green before turning into Planks Lane and had a slight argument with a low brick wall, resulting in a damaged panel just behind the offside rear wheel.
Well that lasted long xD
On 4609 and it looks amazing, inside and out. Even the poles and seats have been repainted
4509 now back in service seen it on the 87 this morning Great Job NXWM ;)
4510 & 1756 are now being done
Quote from: Roy on October 09, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
Both of WN's recent refurbs (4565 and 4609) were on the 255 looking immaculate inside and out, and still with that "as new" smell. Unfortunately, 4609 did an impromptu lap of Wombourne Village Green before turning into Planks Lane and had a slight argument with a low brick wall, resulting in a damaged panel just behind the offside rear wheel.
That turn into planks lane is tight had reported about that wall years ago see it did not get read or filed under bin.
4609 was working back opn the 59 today
Quote from: thetruth on October 10, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
1751 back in service then?
Yes, I saw it in Wolverhampton last week.
4630 is now back at BC http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4630.html
Is it me or have they stopped repainting in cargo white??
Quote from: Tony on October 11, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
4630 is now back at BC http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4630.html
Thought I hadn't seen 4630 for a while ;)
Quote from: Peter123 on October 11, 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Is it me or have they stopped repainting in cargo white??
You're not the only one thats noticed Peter, 4630 looks like it's received normal white instead of cargo white but I need to see 4630 just to be sure :)
Quote from: Peter123 on October 11, 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Is it me or have they stopped repainting in cargo white??
I thought that as well, it may be the light reflecting off the side of the bus.
But I do like the logo. That the connection bars are in a different shade of grey to the West Midlands in the logo.
Another Fleetname variation?! Thats Number 7 I think now. Do NXWM have any idea of their own brand identity? :o
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi140.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr39%2FDRIVEITLIKEUSTOLEIT%2F11102012517.jpg&hash=e84d33f5aafbbd641ed17dd50554ee347560419c)
4055 on the 451, note the logo in the window
4243 is another thay should be finished today or Monday
Saw 4630 today on Bristol Road and can confirm its in cargo white
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 10, 2012, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: thetruth on October 10, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
1751 back in service then?
Yes, I saw it in Wolverhampton last week.
Here it is on the 70 today -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8080414093/
4055 -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8080381822
584 at WB (Only the red has been painted, the white is not recent, as you can see where the rear connection bars were).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8080387315
Quote from: Peter123 on October 12, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
Saw 4630 today on Bristol Road and can confirm its in cargo white
I seen it myself while I was waiting for the 4393 on the 900 at Moor St ;)
7165 IS THE LATEST [ONLY ONE] SO FAR TO GET THE NEW SHADE OF RED .THE WHITE STILL APPEARS TO TO BE THE SAME SHADE .
Quote from: JIM C on October 12, 2012, 11:30:57 PM
7165 IS THE LATEST [ONLY ONE] SO FAR TO GET THE NEW SHADE OF RED .THE WHITE STILL APPEARS TO TO BE THE SAME SHADE .
Do the Dundee buses get re-trimmed at repaint the same as NXWM examples?
NO IN FACT WE HAVE P REG BUSES THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SCRAPED LIKE 7129 AND NEVER BEEN PAINTED LET ALONE RETRIMED .I WAS SURPRIZED TO SEE 7129 LOOKING LIKE BRAND NEW INSIDE.OUR NEW MD HAS GOT THE REPAINTS STARTED NOW BUT THATS IT . JC
Quote from: JIM C on October 14, 2012, 12:41:53 AM
NO IN FACT WE HAVE P REG BUSES THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SCRAPED LIKE 7129 AND NEVER BEEN PAINTED LET ALONE RETRIMED .I WAS SURPRIZED TO SEE 7129 LOOKING LIKE BRAND NEW INSIDE.OUR NEW MD HAS GOT THE REPAINTS STARTED NOW BUT THATS IT . JC
Thanks Jim, I presume that Dundee examples must still be in fairly good condition still internally then? you also don't seem to have so much of an issue with window etchings as NXWM experience
I agree; the Scanias that came down had no vandalism whatsoever. Some of the Ag ones sadly have light etchings on the very back window but the Dundee ones, none!
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 14, 2012, 08:34:54 AM
I agree; the Scanias that came down had no vandalism whatsoever. Some of the Ag ones sadly have light etchings on the very back window but the Dundee ones, none!
You should see some of the Perry Barr ones now!!
They don't even have the film on the windows.
Yes, the Ag Scanias had scratched windows in their first two or three weeks.
Saw 4489 on the 907 today, nearly looks as bad as 4490. the drivers side bumper is white, and the panel on the drivers side with the headlights in it is red. Both are really in need of a repaint now!!
4083's seats have arrived at Miller Street so looks like another 451 President being done
IN DUNDEE THEY JUST BREAK THE WINDOWS ,BUT GOT TO SAY WE DONT GET A LOT OF INTERIOR VANDALISM HERE .
1756 back in service (15/10)
4046 is now back at AG refurbished http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4046.html
One of the striped ones was involved in a collision on Thursday do it is either 4043 or 4111.
Quote from: Michael on October 18, 2012, 09:21:42 PM
One of the striped ones was involved in a collision on Thursday do it is either 4043 or 4111.
I saw 4043 out on the 1 today
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 18, 2012, 09:21:42 PM
One of the striped ones was involved in a collision on Thursday do it is either 4043 or 4111.
I saw 4043 out on the 1 today
It wasn't intense, I think somebody got run over. Could see it in the distance with hazards on.
4243 now finished and back at PB
3 more being done are 1775, 4047 & 4674
Is it me or is the new photo of 4243 after its refurb making it look like it's sitting very high?
I photographed 1775 only on monday
I didn't notice that before but looking at it now, it does indeed look like it's riding high.
More than likely got the ferry lift on.
Quote from: DC3 on October 21, 2012, 12:51:18 AM
More than likely got the ferry lift on.
Good shout I didn't think they were fitted on such early models but would certainly explain it.
all WB presidents to be repainted from toothpaste livery, refurbished with new seats and some to be rebranded for the new 5 service (west brom to sutton coldfield).
but i don't know what the branding will be, if it'll be like the 33 and 51 branding or something completly different.
current ones done are 4055 and 4087 that i know off.
Shame to see more toothpaste being eradicated by the red death.
Shame to see another proper route number serving Sutton being lost after the 366 and 377.
Quote from: andy on October 21, 2012, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: DC3 on October 21, 2012, 12:51:18 AM
More than likely got the ferry lift on.
Good shout I didn't think they were fitted on such early models but would certainly explain it.
The what?
Next Perry Barr bus being done is 4489
1751
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8125122532/in/photostream
4486 is now back at PB
4486 went in just before so 4478 should probably be back soon
Travelled on 4291 yesterday, in old livery and the seats were in a disgraceful condition. This mirrors my experiences on others of the 429x batch at WB.
Seems as though these have been forgotten about whilst newer vehicles are refurbed.
All the unrefurbished alx400 at WB are in a very similar condition to 4291 thats why i much prefer the presidents as there cleaner in terms of refurbished seats and hand rails/poles without pealing paintwork. Im sure in time they will get refurbished probably after the presidents have been done at WB for route 5 as most of the geminis if not all are in NXWM livery so surely the alx400 must be next in line.
4601 is being refurbed now, 4599 came back yesterday so should be painted and back to wolverhampton next friday hopefully.
4585 was rough exterior wise so will be another 3 weeks i would say.
Same with the PB ALX400's, especially the ex BC examples.
4318 now back in service out on the 900E this morning rode on it on the 10:20 Journey from Birmingham
4193 now refurbished it looked like it was it's first day back in service after refurb looks fantastic it was out on the 957 this morning
Merc 1641 is repainted & refurb'd & is back in service on the 53 at Merry Hill. It also sports front / side LED blinds
I'm intrigued as to whether PB are going to refurb their omnicity's :) I can't imagine them in the NXWM livery to be honest, and with the new grey seating. Still, I suppose they would look quite nice.
1753
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8147298724/in/photostream
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
4193
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8151070805
4318
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8151096686
4478
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8151071621
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 02, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
1753
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8147298724/in/photostream
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
Isn't it about time they updated the fleetname on 1750?
Sticks out like a sore thumb, as it's on the red bit above the driver.
Would I be correct in thinking the other repainted Walsall B7's do have the correct version of the fleetname on?
Quote from: Westy on November 03, 2012, 10:13:30 PM
Would I be correct in thinking the other repainted Walsall B7's do have the correct version of the fleetname on?
Yes thats right. Only 1750, 1780 and 1784 have full connection bars at the back also
Think they've run out, which is a real shame because things were starting to look up as far as appearance goes, but all the most recent repaints will probably never go back and recieve the connection bars, adding yet another variation to the catalogue of liveries
The three refurb bays in Walsall garage currently have 4047, 4209 & 4599 in them
Saw 4634 last night on the 63 looking mint with new engine
Quote from: Ashley on November 04, 2012, 09:53:29 PM
Saw 4634 last night on the 63 looking mint with new engine
Looking forward to seeing it ;)
Quote from: JB93 on November 01, 2012, 09:07:27 PM
I'm intrigued as to whether PB are going to refurb their omnicity's :) I can't imagine them in the NXWM livery to be honest, and with the new grey seating. Still, I suppose they would look quite nice.
Same, they'd look nice... but I can't imagine that they're high priority at the moment!
At this rate, the new livery will be all conquering quite soon..........
Is there any reason why refurbishment is not subcontracted outside NX?
Im sure the various depots are doing their best, but if someone else was 'helping', there would be more NX vehicles on streets.
I always seem to see lots of Twm Tridents & single deck B7s in Walsall.
4488 & 4510 now back in service seen 4488 out on the 16 & 4510 out on the 82/87 both at Moor Street
I was on 4609 for the first time since its refurb, it looks great.
I have noticed that the first of the pull down seats was not replaced, can anyone confirm a reason for this?
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2012, 09:27:47 AM
Is there any reason why refurbishment is not subcontracted outside NX?
Im sure the various depots are doing their best, but if someone else was 'helping', there would be more NX vehicles on streets.
I always seem to see lots of Twm Tridents & single deck B7s in Walsall.
Various work is contracted out. WJF at Castle Bromwich have refurbished some Mercedes and the Scania Bendis. Carlyle at West Bromwich do various work. If Miller Street gets too many seats in at any time some are recovered by an outside firm.
Only 8 out of 38 B7s in Walsall are not done now and they are being done one at a time
Tony
Two more being done are 4329 & 4807
Quote from: thetruth on November 05, 2012, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: don on November 05, 2012, 12:18:05 AM
At this rate, the new livery will be all conquering quite soon..........
1099 in NXWM / NXC livery I make it. 432 remaining to do, obviously this number will be less with new deliveries.
I made it 350-400 left but it was a very quick add up. At the current rate, these won't take too long. I thought that Trailways were mentioned a while back, doing a WN Trident in that big batch of 75?
Quote from: don on November 05, 2012, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: thetruth on November 05, 2012, 12:33:59 AM
Quote from: don on November 05, 2012, 12:18:05 AM
At this rate, the new livery will be all conquering quite soon..........
1099 in NXWM / NXC livery I make it. 432 remaining to do, obviously this number will be less with new deliveries.
I made it 350-400 left but it was a very quick add up. At the current rate, these won't take too long. I thought that Trailways were mentioned a while back, doing a WN Trident in that big batch of 75?
The rate of repaints has sped up of late since more of the body prep work is being done by the garages, as has the quality of the repaints. I still think vehicle repaints should be chosen based on worst first rather than to coincide with MOT dates etc
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 05, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on November 05, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
I was on 4609 for the first time since its refurb, it looks great.
I have noticed that the first of the pull down seats was not replaced, can anyone confirm a reason for this?
I agree it looks great and plus you you can easily guess 4609 is my favorite NXWM bus. which route was it on today?
Today, 4609 was on route 1.
4711 is now in, just one left in old livery at WB
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2012, 10:59:32 AM
4711 is now in, just one left in old livery at WB
So sad to see the toothpaste geminis disappearing
4083 back in garage repainted and refurbed. i think 4114 and 4054 have disappeared as well. only leaves 4044, 4049 and the unbranded presidents (4048, 4053 and 4113) in toothpaste livery, as well as the last gemini, 4712.
Can't say I feel bad for WB losing the toothpaste livery as they've nicked our buses from Acocks Green so haaa! :)
Quote from: Michael on November 06, 2012, 07:30:44 PM
Can't say I feel bad for WB losing the toothpaste livery as they've nicked our buses from Acocks Green so haaa! :)
WB or AG don't make the decisions. someone else in the company does, as previously stated on this forum. the garages have to provide what they can to please him or her.
enjoy your presidents....... :D
Quote from: wbdriver on November 06, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
Quote from: Michael on November 06, 2012, 07:30:44 PM
Can't say I feel bad for WB losing the toothpaste livery as they've nicked our buses from Acocks Green so haaa! :)
WB or AG don't make the decisions. someone else in the company does, as previously stated on this forum. the garages have to provide what they can to please him or her.
enjoy your presidents....... :D
I know they don't decide but still. :)
I think the members from the old fotopic site will remember the WeHateWalsall campaign a couple of years ago.
Some buses which aren't receiving much love is WN's 43xx Tridents (except ex LH 4384 and 4385)
None are in the current livery, adn most seats are threadbare.
Are there any plans for this batch?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on November 07, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
Some buses which aren't receiving much love is WN's 43xx Tridents (except ex LH 4384 and 4385)
None are in the current livery, adn most seats are threadbare.
Are there any plans for this batch?
Same as most unrefurbed BC ALX400s then! Give them time...
Quote from: nx4737 on November 07, 2012, 05:51:34 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on November 07, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
Some buses which aren't receiving much love is WN's 43xx Tridents (except ex LH 4384 and 4385)
None are in the current livery, adn most seats are threadbare.
Are there any plans for this batch?
Same as most unrefurbed BC ALX400s then! Give them time...
Most of them sit on the 94's, so i probably doubt it. ;D (after they moved to PB of course oops)
Three more being done are 1643, 1758 & 4168
1643? i saw it yesterday. About time though really
Quote from: Ashley on November 08, 2012, 11:12:32 PM
1643? i saw it yesterday. About time though really
Was outside Walsall paintshop yesterday afternoon (was not there in the morning)
And in answer to why don't NXWM use outside contractors to help - 4120 is currently at Trailways, Bloxwich being refurbed
4489 back in service looks Great :)
Quote from: Tony on November 09, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
And in answer to why don't NXWM use outside contractors to help - 4120 is currently at Trailways, Bloxwich being refurbed
Fair enough then.
I only asked, as a punter!
Quote from: Ashley on November 08, 2012, 11:12:32 PM
1643? i saw it yesterday. About time though really
Hopefully 1645, 1652 and 1672 are treated soon. The 3 forgotten Mercedes!!
Quote from: Tony on November 09, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
And in answer to why don't NXWM use outside contractors to help - 4120 is currently at Trailways, Bloxwich being refurbed
How come 4120 is being treated to a second refurb/repaint when there are buses far more desperately requiring some tlc i.e. TWM liveried ALX400's in the range 4125-4304
1645 may get done if its had new blinds, doubt 1652 and 1672 will be touched or 1619
Another question, did 4123 4124 and 7129 have any work done on them before they went to Dundee?
Quote from: Ashley on November 09, 2012, 09:03:51 PM
1645 may get done if its had new blinds, doubt 1652 and 1672 will be touched or 1619
1645 has also been re-engined so will be one of PE'S next refurbs I would think
Quote from: Ashley on November 09, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Another question, did 4123 4124 and 7129 have any work done on them before they went to Dundee?
4123 / 4 went as they were, I'm assuming 7129 was the same
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisforbes105/8094400038/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisforbes105/8164417091/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisforbes105/8116070378/in/photostream
Thanks for finding those< seems weird having Presidents up there but the B10L looks better than when it arrived here initially
Some work was done on 4123/4 as they arrived in Dundee with no window etching!
Just seen what looks like 4711 heading to West Bromwich after its repaint looks very smart.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 04, 2012, 09:02:22 PM
When was 4805 repainted? Saw it today in Dudley bus station on the 246 looking newley repainted. I've noticed how they don't put mini connetion bars on now
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8182590839/
Quote from: Ash on November 12, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
Just seen what looks like 4711 heading to West Bromwich after its repaint looks very smart.
Out on the 82/87 today
4151 is now refurbished and repainted seen out on its usual haunt the 14
About time they de branded the Tridents from the 14 and refurbish them as they've been trashed i think
Quote from: Ashley on November 14, 2012, 10:06:20 PM
About time they de branded the Tridents from the 14 and refurbish them as they've been trashed i think
A few buses need refurbs but the worst ones I have seen are the soho road alx400's. The seats are so worn there bald in places and flat. The buses interiors are generally dirty but once they have been refurbished they look very smart but i think once WB have sorted the presidents out i think these may be on the list for the next buses to be refurbed from the garage.
The Soho road and 14 are the least desergving of refurbs though. I think they should just refurb the downstairs on the dodgy routes that way only the decent passengers will benefit
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 14, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
The Soho road and 14 are the least desergving of refurbs though. I think they should just refurb the downstairs on the dodgy routes that way only the decent passengers will benefit
I use the 14 most days. I sit upstairs most of the time. I dont deserve new retrimmed seats? Why not? I'm not decent?
4712 is now being done, so that completes the toothpaste Geminis and means all WB geminis are now red/white
Quote from: Gareth on November 15, 2012, 01:01:00 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 14, 2012, 10:40:26 PM
The Soho road and 14 are the least desergving of refurbs though. I think they should just refurb the downstairs on the dodgy routes that way only the decent passengers will benefit
That is slightly on the ignorant side. I would suggest if you are going to make such statements, you should at least get your spelling right. :D
I've seen people getting beaten up on the 14, people dealing drugs on the 14 (all during the daytime btw, drivers are always understandably too scared to call the police or say anything) and whenever I've had the misfortune to use the 74, there's always been groups chavs and/or nutters on there, and the music they like to share with the bus just makes it worse. They are hardly the safest routes in birmingham and a lot of the time I do not feel comfortable being on there. The buses they have now are quite well suited, why waste an expensive refurbishment on a bus that's going to get ruined?
Quote from: trident4370 on November 15, 2012, 07:13:56 PM
I've seen people getting beaten up on the 14, people dealing drugs on the 14 (all during the daytime btw, drivers are always understandably too scared to call the police or say anything) and whenever I've had the misfortune to use the 74, there's always been groups chavs and/or nutters on there, and the music they like to share with the bus just makes it worse. They are hardly the safest routes in birmingham and a lot of the time I do not feel comfortable being on there. The buses they have now are quite well suited, why waste an expensive refurbishment on a bus that's going to get ruined?
Ok I guess on the 74 and 75 your referring to the section between Birmingham and West Bromwich what about the people who use the Dudley/Wednesbury and West Bromwich sections only. Do they deserve the scruffy buses that dont get the refurb becuase of the people that use the buses between West Bromwich and Birmingham. Also its all the alx400's not just the soho road ones and alot of them get used on service like the 5/48/49 which don't go into Birmingham. I understand what your saying and totally agree why give people new or refurbed buses when they will wreck them but with the 74/75 these services carry on past West Bromwich.
The solution for the 74/75 Soho Road services as I see it, would be to follow the example of other routes such as the 6 and 37, where they get converted to single deck operation with a frequency increase to compensate for the lack of capacity. The 6 and 37 saw a significant reduction in anti-social behaviour, as smokers and troublemakers can't hide away upstairs.
Quote from: Ash on November 14, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 14, 2012, 10:06:20 PM
About time they de branded the Tridents from the 14 and refurbish them as they've been trashed i think
A few buses need refurbs but the worst ones I have seen are the soho road alx400's. The seats are so worn there bald in places and flat. The buses interiors are generally dirty but once they have been refurbished they look very smart but i think once WB have sorted the presidents out i think these may be on the list for the next buses to be refurbed from the garage.
To me the soho road ALX400's look no worse than the ex BC examples at PB.
Quote from: Stu on November 15, 2012, 07:25:12 PM
The solution for the 74/75 Soho Road services as I see it, would be to follow the example of other routes such as the 6 and 37, where they get converted to single deck operation with a frequency increase to compensate for the lack of capacity. The 6 and 37 saw a significant reduction in anti-social behaviour, as smokers and troublemakers can't hide away upstairs.
Just over 10 years ago the 74/78/79 back then used mercs,b6le's/mercs respectively and there were very few short workings. Yes the buses got full quickly but they coped and even when the tridents were introduced on the 79 mercs were still kept on the 74 for a quite a few years after. The mercs were in no where near the state the alx400 are in so i agree single deckers reduce anti-social behaviour, smokers and trouble makers but also the buses that are used on the Soho Road were not new to WB and might not have been in the best condition when delivered to WB.
Quote from: Ash on November 15, 2012, 07:42:07 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 15, 2012, 07:25:12 PM
The solution for the 74/75 Soho Road services as I see it, would be to follow the example of other routes such as the 6 and 37, where they get converted to single deck operation with a frequency increase to compensate for the lack of capacity. The 6 and 37 saw a significant reduction in anti-social behaviour, as smokers and troublemakers can't hide away upstairs.
Just over 10 years ago the 74/78/79 back then used mercs,b6le's/mercs respectively and there were very few short workings. Yes the buses got full quickly but they coped and even when the tridents were introduced on the 79 mercs were still kept on the 74 for a quite a few years after. The mercs were in no where near the state the alx400 are in so i agree single deckers reduce anti-social behaviour, smokers and trouble makers but also the buses that are used on the Soho Road were not new to WB and might not have been in the best condition when delivered to WB.
I remember when the 74 was converted to an ALX400 operation. It was way better in terms of a passenger as it meant more of a chance of actually getting a seat!
If they were to convert them back again, they'd have to use 1750 onwards due to the emissions ruling anyway, so it's better to keep it as it is for now.
If it reverted back to a single deck operation, they would need to double the frequency in peaks to keep up with demand!
Well Ash I use the 74 to get from Dudley to West Bromwich, I daren't stay on past there and I always get the metro instead if I ever need to get to brum. The 74 is a rough route from start to finish!
The single deckers on the 6 do seem to have worked quite well and I think the single's on the 2 and 3 were working well until they went and cut the frequency. The thing is Single Deckering a route isn't the foolproof solution, it works for some routes and doesn't work so well for others. I remember merc 74's were a nightmare just trying to get on sometimes was a challenge.
I think though overall some of the worst conditioned buses in the fleet are at BC, there are Tridents there in much worse state than the B7 ALXs at PB or WB.
I remember my mother showing me an article in the local paper last year about someone getting mugged at knifepoint on the top deck of a Soho Road service.
Quote from: trident4370 on November 15, 2012, 08:56:09 PM
Well Ash I use the 74 to get from Dudley to West Bromwich, I daren't stay on past there and I always get the metro instead if I ever need to get to brum. The 74 is a rough route from start to finish!
The single deckers on the 6 do seem to have worked quite well and I think the single's on the 2 and 3 were working well until they went and cut the frequency. The thing is Single Deckering a route isn't the foolproof solution, it works for some routes and doesn't work so well for others. I remember merc 74's were a nightmare just trying to get on sometimes was a challenge.
I think though overall some of the worst conditioned buses in the fleet are at BC, there are Tridents there in much worse state than the B7 ALXs at PB or WB.
I agree that past West Bromwich heading towards Birmingham on the Soho Road is rough but the part between Dudley and West Bromwich isnt that bad was on one yesterday between Dudley and West Bromwich and was quiet no problems even though the bus was quite full and this was around 6pm.
People getting mugged, knifed, shot, dealing drugs (although smoking is fairly common) are not every day occurrences.
I have used the 14 almost every day for over 20 years and have never seen any of that. Admittedly its not the nicest service in Birmingham, but its not the worst.
Most people who tend to slag it off, along with the Inner Circle, have never used it or very rarely use it. There is still a mentality that seeing a chav in a hoodie or someone who looks a bit rough equals trouble.
The biggest problem on the 14 seems to be fare evasion. And buggie overloads! How I love it at Saltley Gate when inspectors and police are waiting en masse!
The Dudley to Wwest Bromwich section of the 74 I feel fairly comfortable using, the 14 I did once see a driver get called every name under the sun by some scruffy girl who tryed using an invalid pass. It is a fear mentality that makes people criticise some routes and if it worked on the 6 and 37, try single deckers on the 74 just at a very high frequency
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 02, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8192935999
As I've mentioned before, I'll soon have the pleasure of travelling all the way from Bloxwich to Great Bridge via bus.(Unless some kind soul gives me a lift!)
What's the 42 & 43 like between West Brom & Great Bridge, compared to the 74? Do they use the same stop in Great Bridge where you cross a bridge to get to the ASDA?
The 42/43 use the same stops as the 74 on both sides in Great Bridge, there is a temporary road surface on the high street in West Brom by carters green so could be a bit of a nightmare for a few days/weeks if using the 74. Personally if i had to choose i would use the 42/43 over the 74 and cut out the high street also the 74 is always stop/start as most of the buses are quite busy compared to the 42/43 as their is diamond aswell.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2012, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: John on November 17, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 02, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8192935999
I rode it on the 89 this afternoon. In the photo the red looks like the old shade of red they used but actually it has a very bright shade of red.
When is 4599,4585 and 4601 back?
4599 has been back for about a week, it's currently in garage but shoul be in service soon.
Quote from: Driver03 on November 18, 2012, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2012, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: John on November 17, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 02, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8192935999
Thanks for that. I was just wondering because i haven't seen it back in service yet
I rode it on the 89 this afternoon. In the photo the red looks like the old shade of red they used but actually it has a very bright shade of red.
When is 4599,4585 and 4601 back?
4599 has been back for about a week, it's currently in garage but shoul be in service soon.
Any news on 4182?
Also when 4182 is completely refurbished and repainted will it go straight to BC or will it go back to YW first before it moves to BC
Quote from: John on November 17, 2012, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 02, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
1775 has also returned after 2 weeks away. Very Quick
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8192935999
The Wright "W" logo on the front really needs to be picked out in silver :o
Quote from: Rob H on November 14, 2012, 03:07:21 PM
4151 is now refurbished and repainted seen out on its usual haunt the 14
Still on there today!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8203560700
Quote from: John on November 20, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: Rob H on November 14, 2012, 03:07:21 PM
4151 is now refurbished and repainted seen out on its usual haunt the 14
Still on there today!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8203560700
4143 is now in being done, 4480 is as well, cannot remember whether I ahve already mentioned that one
Immaculate 4278 out on 907s today
4807 returned today looking good shame about the logo on the sides on recent refurbs they look lost in all he white 4808 has gone in its place. When these newer vehicles are painted does anyone know if the seats are retrimmed
Quote from: richie on November 22, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
4807 returned today looking good shame about the logo on the sides on recent refurbs they look lost in all he white 4808 has gone in its place. When these newer vehicles are painted does anyone know if the seats are retrimmed
Yes they are. 4049 is another now being done
Quote from: Tony on November 22, 2012, 08:58:23 AM
Immaculate 4278 out on 907s today
Have NXWM now dropped the mini connection bars off the side fleetnames? Or just out of stock?
4278 looks good
4278 looks like it has gone back to white instead of the darker 'cargo white'
4239 now refurbished and repainted out on the 16 today looks great
Quote from: Rob H on November 23, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
4239 now refurbished and repainted out on the 16 today looks great
Perry Barr seems to be getting priority for repaints / partial repaints of existing livery at the moment
4776s seats have arrived at Miller Street today, so is the first leather seated Enviro to get a refurb
1758 in service today on 8/89
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2012, 05:27:01 PM
4776s seats have arrived at Miller Street today, so is the first leather seated Enviro to get a refurb
Very nice
Will they get refurbed with new leather or the normal grey seating?
Quote from: John on November 23, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2012, 05:27:01 PM
4776s seats have arrived at Miller Street today, so is the first leather seated Enviro to get a refurb
Very nice
Will they get refurbed with new leather or the normal grey seating?
I will ask next week, but hopefully if it is Leather they will all get the same colour this time
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2012, 06:01:32 PM
Quote from: John on November 23, 2012, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2012, 05:27:01 PM
4776s seats have arrived at Miller Street today, so is the first leather seated Enviro to get a refurb
Very nice
Will they get refurbed with new leather or the normal grey seating?
I will ask next week, but hopefully if it is Leather they will all get the same colour this time
Judging by how badly the current leather has worn, I'd hope they use normal grey covering!
Why leather anyway?
Its cold on your bum first thing in the morning!
It was on the X51 I caught yesterday morning!
Quote from: Westy on November 24, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
Why leather anyway?
Its cold on your bum first thing in the morning!
It was on the X51 I caught yesterday morning!
Because they are supposed to be higher spec interiors used on the Express routes, when new they were branded for the 'Premier 997', leather is seen as a luxury interior
Perhaps they will be retrimed in normal grey and the 997 may be in the running for new buses?
Quote from: richie on November 24, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Perhaps they will be retrimed in normal grey and the 997 may be in the running for new buses?
Anything is possible or do you know something we don't?
Quote from: Winston on November 24, 2012, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: richie on November 24, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Perhaps they will be retrimed in normal grey and the 997 may be in the running for new buses?
Anything is possible or do you know something we don't?
No just a guess
Quote from: richie on November 24, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Perhaps they will be retrimed in normal grey and the 997 may be in the running for new buses?
Okay the 997 was a showcase route, but I don't understand why NX would keep throwing money at it...
Quote from: nx4737 on November 24, 2012, 11:07:05 PM
Quote from: richie on November 24, 2012, 07:10:00 PM
Perhaps they will be retrimed in normal grey and the 997 may be in the running for new buses?
Okay the 997 was a showcase route, but I don't understand why NX would keep throwing money at it...
Still is a showcase route isn't it?
i cant see them keeping leather again for the retrim as it must cost thousands more than fabric
4599 was back out today on the 126.
Don't know whether this was a full refurb but caught sight of 4634 looking smart and named after, errr, I think it was Noel Mulvey or something similar.
Quote from: Abluhwleh on November 25, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
Don't know whether this was a full refurb but caught sight of 4634 looking smart and named after, errr, I think it was Noel Mulvey or something similar.
Yes it is a full refurb, and the gentleman in Question has completed 50 years service
That is a rather cool way to acknowledge 50 years of service. Wow, 50 years with the same employer, I can't even imagine that...
1756
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8223320735/in/photostream
1759
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8224396758/in/photostream
4601 now back at WN today but in for MOT.
4665 now refurbished at repainted seen it on the 31 in Solihull this morning looks great
Quote from: Rob H on November 29, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
4665 now refurbished at repainted seen it on the 31 in Solihull this morning looks great
see http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4665.html
Next one from PB is 4303
4182 came out from BC this evening for the first time, but then driver found the destination was still programmed for YW!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4182.html
4250 has joined 4303 being done from PB, definate progress on these, another president has gone to Walsall to replace 4712 which went back to WB today completing the repainting of WB Geminis
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2012, 10:15:19 PM
4250 has joined 4303 being done from PB, definate progress on these, another president has gone to Walsall to replace 4712 which went back to WB today completing the repainting of WB Geminis
These don't seem to take long, Tony. I saw 4712 passing the old Gaumont/ Wesleyan island barely a fortnight ago. Well, that's what it seems - you'll tell me now it's my age playing tricks, and a fortnight's actually been six weeks ;)
Are any of Walsalls Tridents ( the ex 51 examples) due for refurb/repaint, theyre quite tatty
i suppose the time taken to refurb, depends on how much work is involved, i.e i reckon its easier to "blow over" a bus already in the nxwm livery, than to do one in old versions, as they require more prep etc. Also if the bus is virtually straight i.e. not tons of panel replacement etc, it must be a quicker process.
In Tonys photos of 4428 and 4444, they seemed to have taken longer due to what looked like repanelling, somebody also said 4585 has needed work, whereas 4712 is in pretty good condition already so would be a quicker job. Im glad PB are putting some pace into their ALX400 refurbs.
Quote from: bob on December 04, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
Are any of Walsalls Tridents ( the ex 51 examples) due for refurb/repaint, theyre quite tatty
All the ex 51 branded Tridents have already been refurbished once since new
Quote from: Winston on December 04, 2012, 11:44:23 AM
All the ex 51 branded Tridents have already been refurbished once since new
Yeah, but they are tatty on the outside, and could do with repaint's. The insides are ok on most of them.
Quote from: thetruth on December 04, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
4114 now back at WB repainted.
4092 is parked at the outstation again.
There must be a problem with 4092 as it keeps getting parked up out of use especially when you have got 3611 on the 80.
4092 was broken down on Sutton Parade on Saturday blocking everything up so I would assume it was dragged back from there.
1775
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8249615683/in/photostream
4486
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254539255
4807
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8255615428
4808
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254539833
Quote from: John on December 08, 2012, 06:10:38 PM
4486
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254539255
4807
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8255615428
4808
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254539833
If 4808 is also now back, I would have thought that another one may have gone in its place.
I wonder if the 9 will get new route branding once more those with the current green branding have been repainted
4601 was seen back in service at WN yesterday on the 529.
It has been debranded from the 59.
4480 out on the 907 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8261545898/
4209 now back in service seen in Pool Meadow Bus Station this morning but couldn't get what it was on
4151 is another finished
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4151.html
Quote from: madabouttransport on December 16, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2012, 05:05:50 PM
4151 is another finished
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4151.html
It looks great. Is it receiving front LEDs, I noticed it doesn't have a front display
4151 has been back on the roads a few weeks since refurb (John has a picture of it on his site). It certainly didn't have LEDs fitted then.
Quote from: Mike K on December 16, 2012, 07:40:45 AM
Quote from: madabouttransport on December 16, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
It looks great. Is it receiving front LEDs, I noticed it doesn't have a front display
4151 has been back on the roads a few weeks since refurb (John has a picture of it on his site). It certainly didn't have LEDs fitted then.
Tony's Picture of 4172 in Central's yard also has the front display missing so it might be having work done on it. You never know though
4120 refurbed
http://simonedwards.piwigo.com/picture?/16744/category/269-buses
Next one out is a Coventry ALX tomorrow, Can't remember which one is being done at the moment, may be 4397
Any news on that 997 E400?
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2012, 12:57:36 PM
Next one out is a Coventry ALX tomorrow, Can't remember which one is being done at the moment, may be 4397
Tony, 4397 has already been done
Was on there last weekend and still more Tridents than Presidents that day but I can only assume things are changing
4145 (as well as 4143) are now both being done. Another PB Gemini is also at Walsall, don't know which yet
4516 is the Perry Barr gemini being done, next from Yardley Wood is 4339
4776 back in service today still got titnted windows but no leather seats
Has it got standard moquette?
4776 yes.
1765 in for refurb/repaint
1767
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8294109641/in/photostream
4250 now finished http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4250.html
YW 4339 is being done at WB
Walsall garage is currently working on PB4302 & PE 1647
BC are doing their own 4145
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
4250 now finished http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4250.html
YW 4339 is being done at WB
Walsall garage is currently working on PB4302 & PE 1647
BC are doing their own 4145
Tony,
I take it you mean PB4303 rather than 4302? as 4302 has already been done
Is it also safe to assume that PE1643 has been completed & returned to be replaced by 1647 at Walsall? I wonder whether or not 1647 will get a re-trim in the NX moquette, as it & 1633 were both re-trimmed but not repainted only fairly recently
Does anyone know if the programme to re-engine BC's 54 plate Tridents is still ongoing? Haven't seen any new ones reported for a while....
I think one of the most recent repaints from that batch was 4630, which hasn't be re-engined
Quote from: Winston on December 22, 2012, 10:45:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
4250 now finished http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4250.html
YW 4339 is being done at WB
Walsall garage is currently working on PB4302 & PE 1647
BC are doing their own 4145
Tony,
1643 & 1647 were both being done together at Walsall last week
I take it you mean PB4303 rather than 4302? as 4302 has already been done
Is it also safe to assume that PE1643 has been completed & returned to be replaced by 1647 at Walsall? I wonder whether or not 1647 will get a re-trim in the NX moquette, as it & 1633 were both re-trimmed but not repainted only fairly recently
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 20, 2012, 07:05:45 PM
4776 back in service today still got titnted windows but no leather seats
Well that's a shame. Any idea if they're being re-used in another bus?
4776 has its original seats by the look of it, just re-trimmed in standard moquette.
Just on wa 1751, a recent refurb and its interior as been done to a very high standard.The plastic seat backs have been replaced seat frames are nice and clean and no etched glass. Looks like a new bus, after recent comments about the poor quality of some refurbs its good to see that a proper job can be done.
Quote from: Gareth on December 24, 2012, 02:32:51 AM
4776 has its original seats by the look of it, just re-trimmed in standard moquette.
Ahh. Well it's not all bad then. Still, waste of leather really.
Quote from: JackC on December 24, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Gareth on December 24, 2012, 02:32:51 AM
4776 has its original seats by the look of it, just re-trimmed in standard moquette.
Ahh. Well it's not all bad then. Still, waste of leather really.
How many other Enviro400s have leather seating?
Quote from: JackC on December 24, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: Gareth on December 24, 2012, 02:32:51 AM
4776 has its original seats by the look of it, just re-trimmed in standard moquette.
Ahh. Well it's not all bad then. Still, waste of leather really.
What, did you see the state of it?
They should havfe kept the downstairs leather as they were mostly imaculate. Like the lether because you can see which seats are clean unlike the fabric which hide it
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 24, 2012, 01:02:47 PM
How many other Enviro400s have leather seating?
All of 4763-75 have the leather seats. 4768 onwards are brown and 4763-7 are a dark grey.
Quote from: JackC on October 09, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
Well that lasted long xD
Could it be caused by the wash if its only marks
The ferry lift as it says was used being low floor as not to drag or cause damage to the chassis or any low hanging parts from the engine when going onto or off the boat when being imported to the country as the ramps can be pretty high VDL buses had them on but never knew volvos had them on but a good chance they have. Lorry units and trailers have them on too as we would have to raise them before dropping a trailer in Holyhead for Ireland
On a different note and out of curiosity how much do these refurbs actually cost? I would think most renewable items (especially aluminium pannels) would have a decent recycling return price but what would be the estimated actual cost (expenditure - income) for a bog standard Trident.
I would like to compare this to the original price for a Trident (I have no idea but would guess £130K new) does anyone know the original price for a Y-04 Trident?
Furthermore along with these buses comming fresh out the paint shop do they have a mechanical refurb or any mechanical refurb or are these all just a cosmetic excersize?
Quote from: 4006 on January 02, 2013, 08:18:07 PM
On a different note and out of curiosity how much do these refurbs actually cost? I would think most renewable items (especially aluminium pannels) would have a decent recycling return price but what would be the estimated actual cost (expenditure - income) for a bog standard Trident.
I would like to compare this to the original price for a Trident (I have no idea but would guess £130K new) does anyone know the original price for a Y-04 Trident?
Furthermore along with these buses comming fresh out the paint shop do they have a mechanical refurb or any mechanical refurb or are these all just a cosmetic excersize?
According to this article Stagecoach spent 4 million and received 23 so that is £174000 each but is for Dennis enviro's and that figure has probably been rounded up to sound more impressive!
Quote from: 4006 on January 02, 2013, 08:18:07 PM
On a different note and out of curiosity how much do these refurbs actually cost? I would think most renewable items (especially aluminium pannels) would have a decent recycling return price but what would be the estimated actual cost (expenditure - income) for a bog standard Trident.
I would like to compare this to the original price for a Trident (I have no idea but would guess £130K new) does anyone know the original price for a Y-04 Trident?
Furthermore along with these buses comming fresh out the paint shop do they have a mechanical refurb or any mechanical refurb or are these all just a cosmetic excersize?
In Jan 2001 when NX ordered 180 new double deckers (i.e. 4125-4304) the order value was quoted as being £23 Million, so that would have made the Y-reg Tridents / 51 Plate Volvo/ALX400 approx £128k each, so your guess was pretty spot on
4210 is the only bus in service with Primelines branding. It's call for a repaint/refurb ought to be soon. Buses may get new seats but they don't get bright orange Hanover destination displays so you can see them coming in the dark. Even Stagecoach retrofitted it's oldest B10Ms and Olympians with new displays.
Quote from: JoNi on January 03, 2013, 01:28:43 PM
4210 is the only bus in service with Primelines branding. It's call for a repaint/refurb ought to be soon. Buses may get new seats but they don't get bright orange Hanover destination displays so you can see them coming in the dark. Even Stagecoach retrofitted it's oldest B10Ms and Olympians with new displays.
Or not see them coming in the sun light!
4604 sent to WA for repaint today.
Quote from: rob@mdc on January 03, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
4604 sent to WA for repaint today.
Does that one have the big Vodafone advert?
I'm beginning to think that 4600-4609 are getting route branding soon, with three now having repaints in a couple of months and the 59 return stickers have also been removed.
4210 and 4212 are the last two Coventry buses with the remains of PrimeLines branding
4406 appears to be at Trailways in Bloxwich for refurb
Nxwm are really getting on with making sure the fleet is all the same livery having to outsource work I know a couple have been to trailways.
1758
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/8360881611/in/photostream
I don't think anyone has got a picture of 4599 so here it is today on the 1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8361959746
4516 is now out looking immaculate on the 907 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4516.html
4251 is the next PB bus
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
4251 is the next PB bus
Tony,
Is it definitely 4251 in for refurb? As that's already in NXWM livery
4251 is working the 94 service this morning.
Quote from: broma1k on January 11, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
4251 is working the 94 service this morning.
4261 has already been done & 4241 is the one which has recently had its TWM livery touched up
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
4251 is the next PB bus
Tony,
Is it definitely 4251 in for refurb? As that's already in NXWM livery
Sorry misread the tag, it is BC 4151, the next PB is 4492(
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
4251 is the next PB bus
Tony,
Is it definitely 4251 in for refurb? As that's already in NXWM livery
Sorry misread the tag, it is BC 4151, the next PB is 4492(
Tony,
4151 is already done as well, you photographed parked in BC 15th Dec
4048 refurbed and repainted on the 5(WB) today. would have thought 4044 and 4054 would be next due to old 451 mega rears.
4540 has joined 4604 both from WN for refurb.
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
Sorry misread the tag, it is BC 4151, the next PB is 4492(
Shame, the oddity with unique black O/S fleetnumbers.
4303 now done saw it yesterday at Scott Arms not in service.
I'm sure 4603 will be the next WN trident in for repaint and refurb aftef its RTA In Wednesbury.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on January 16, 2013, 06:21:54 PM
I'm sure 4603 will be the next WN trident in for repaint and refurb aftef its RTA In Wednesbury.
What's the story? how bad the damage?
Quote from: 4006 (Not NEL 111P) on January 16, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on January 16, 2013, 06:21:54 PM
I'm sure 4603 will be the next WN trident in for repaint and refurb aftef its RTA In Wednesbury.
What's the story? how bad the damage?
She's not too bad, just some front end damage on the left corner and a headlight missing, some fiberglass and a lick of paint she'll be good to go!
Quote from: Driver03 on January 17, 2013, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: 4006 (Not NEL 111P) on January 16, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on January 16, 2013, 06:21:54 PM
I'm sure 4603 will be the next WN trident in for repaint and refurb aftef its RTA In Wednesbury.
What's the story? how bad the damage?
She's not too bad, just some front end damage on the left corner and a headlight missing, some fiberglass and a lick of paint she'll be good to go!
It will stay in for repaint now also, along with 4604 and 4540.
I wonder if 4043, the last vehicle to make AG fully liveried, will be done, or if it even is on the list.
Quote from: Michael on January 17, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
I wonder if 4043, the last vehicle to make AG fully liveried, will be done, or if it even is on the list.
Is 4111 repainted then?
Quote from: John on January 17, 2013, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: Michael on January 17, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
I wonder if 4043, the last vehicle to make AG fully liveried, will be done, or if it even is on the list.
Is 4111 repainted then?
Yeah.
Edit: I'm 95% sure it is, just no photo on here. But a search in google shows no recent photos of it to confirm.
No Michael, I saw 4111 a couple of days ago and it is still in toothpaste-1 livery.
Quote from: Stu on January 18, 2013, 07:49:08 AM
No Michael, I saw 4111 a couple of days ago and it is still in toothpaste-1 livery.
Is it? I stand corrected. Dunno why I thought it was painted.
4145 is finished at Walsall awaiting BC to collect it
4053 repainted back at garage now. just 4044 ,4054 and 4113 left to do.
Always liked 4053 as its the president with the odd CCTV screen upstairs.
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
4251 is the next PB bus
Tony,
Is it definitely 4251 in for refurb? As that's already in NXWM livery
Sorry misread the tag, it is BC 4151, the next PB is 4492(
Tony,
4151 is already done as well, you photographed parked in BC 15th Dec
4151 is back in the paintshop at Walsall with its seats at Miller Street, not sure why!
In the three refurb bays at Walsall garage are 4378, 4540, 4603.
Others in the paintshop include 4149, 4339 & 4822
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2013, 04:54:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2013, 12:16:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
4251 is the next PB bus
Don't understand why they are repainting PE Enviiros which aren't in to bad condition, however some of the Mercs (eg:1645) are in a real bad state!
Tony,
Is it definitely 4251 in for refurb? As that's already in NXWM livery
Sorry misread the tag, it is BC 4151, the next PB is 4492(
Tony,
4151 is already done as well, you photographed parked in BC 15th Dec
4151 is back in the paintshop at Walsall with its seats at Miller Street, not sure why!
In the three refurb bays at Walsall garage are 4378, 4540, 4603.
Others in the paintshop include 4149, 4339 & 4822
Don't understand why they are repainting PE Enviiros which aren't in to bad condition, however some of the Mercs (eg:1645) are in a real bad state!
Tony,
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 21, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Don't understand why they are repainting PE Enviiros which aren't in to bad condition, however some of the Mercs (eg:1645) are in a real bad state!
Tony,
I agree, but may be NXWM are intending to introduce new Hagley Road branding once the majority are done? 1645 will be lucky to ever be treated to a repaint at this rate.......
Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 21, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Don't understand why they are repainting PE Enviiros which aren't in to bad condition, however some of the Mercs (eg:1645) are in a real bad state!
Tony,
I agree, but may be NXWM are intending to introduce new Hagley Road branding once the majority are done? 1645 will be lucky to ever be treated to a repaint at this rate.......
1645 is the one that has been re-engined and LED's put in hasn't it? Because that bus saved me on Friday absolutely powering back to Dudley on the 246 in torrential snow without a problem, passing many other cars and vans that got themselves stuck, and it was warm too, but just a shame that from the outside its looking its 15 years
Saw what looked like 4151 heading to Walsall garage today and looks like it's had some new nearside panels and heading for a repaint back into NXWM livery for the second time.
Quote from: Ash on January 23, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
Saw what looked like 4151 heading to Walsall garage today and looks like it's had some new nearside panels and heading for a repaint back into NXWM livery for the second time.
4151 has been at Walsall for a couple of weeks now, see notes above
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
4151 is back in the paintshop at Walsall with its seats at Miller Street, not sure why!
Accountancy error??
Quote from: Ash on January 23, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
Saw what looked like 4151 heading to Walsall garage today and looks like it's had some new nearside panels and heading for a repaint back into NXWM livery for the second time.
Maybe accident damage. They might only paint the re-panelled area, rather than the whole bus again.
Quote from: John on January 24, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: Ash on January 23, 2013, 09:03:09 PM
Saw what looked like 4151 heading to Walsall garage today and looks like it's had some new nearside panels and heading for a repaint back into NXWM livery for the second time.
Maybe accident damage. They might only paint the re-panelled area, rather than the whole bus again.
In which case why would the seats be at Miller Street?
Quote from: thetruth on January 26, 2013, 10:41:28 PM
1647 back in service repainted today.
I wonder which PE Merc will be next? 1645 or one of 1663 or 1664 if repairable?
Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: thetruth on January 26, 2013, 10:41:28 PM
1647 back in service repainted today.
I wonder which PE Merc will be next? 1645 or one of 1663 or 1664 if repairable?
I don't think they'll refurb any more 0405N, they are starting to be withdrawn and its really not worth it.
As for 1663 and 1664, its really not worth repairing them, unless the parts needed can be sourced from another withdrawn bus. The bendy parts would have probably been perfect. Suppose they're going to the scrap man if it is unrepairable.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 26, 2013, 11:34:03 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 26, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
Quote from: thetruth on January 26, 2013, 10:41:28 PM
1647 back in service repainted today.
I wonder which PE Merc will be next? 1645 or one of 1663 or 1664 if repairable?
I don't think they'll refurb any more 0405N, they are starting to be withdrawn and its really not worth it.
As for 1663 and 1664, its really not worth repairing them, unless the parts needed can be sourced from another withdrawn bus. The bendy parts would have probably been perfect. Suppose they're going to the scrap man if it is unrepairable.
They're are still refurbing Mercs, but only 1628 & above (i.e the T/V reg ones with the wheelchair ramps), these at least will still be around for a couple more years to come. It will just depend how badly fire damaged 1663 & 1664 are as to whether or not they are beyond economical repair
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
4396 is now back in service it was on the 8/8A.
Quote from: Daniel541 on January 27, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
4428 is now back in service it was on the 8/8A.
Do you not mean 4408 or 4424? 4428 is a BC bus
Winston
Sorry, I put wrong keyboard of that. 4396 is full repaint and new trim seat and back on 8 8A.
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area 1662 and 1665 very worried
1660- 1666 all wish they were back on 68ac
Quote from: karl724223 on January 27, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area 1662 and 1665 very worried
Have you noticed 1663 and 1664 have aftermarket CCTV fitted hope it ain't a bodge job!!!
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 08:23:24 PM
Have you noticed 1663 and 1664 have aftermarket CCTV fitted hope it ain't a bodge job!!!
Most, if not all of the ex-Bordesley's 0405N's have them fitted, with a screen in the nearside luggage rack
Think 1663 was a Diesel Leak
Quote from: karl724223 on January 27, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area 1662 and 1665 very worried
Just did some research and 1665 had an engine fire whilst at BY
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 27, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area 1662 and 1665 very worried
Just did some research and 1665 had an engine fire whilst at BY
I think 1665 was in reserve for some time with fire damage before the decision was made to repair / refurbish it & allocate it to Pensnett
1648 had its window smashed at Merry Hill:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24034040@N07/8421279686/
Quote from: karl724223 on January 27, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
Quote from: richie on January 27, 2013, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris63 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:07 AM
I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.
1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.
As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life
I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.
1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area 1662 and 1665 very worried
There's some photos of a toasted 1663 here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24034040@N07/8419792699/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24034040@N07/8419790683/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24034040@N07/8419775509/in/photostream
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 21, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
4585 is now back from repaint.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8423477701
4303
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8423470889
1647
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8423495109
Whats happening with the earler refurbs I mean the ones which have had new paint but no grey seats there are some at PL and WA I saw a couple of 41xx series tridents with them.
Saw 4604 today on Litchfield Road looking nice & shinny!
4492 now out repainted
4396 in NXC livery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8429667765
I saw 4197 out on the Coventry Road today with a very new looking yet poorly done vinyl repaint...
Quote from: Abluhwleh on January 30, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
I saw 4197 out on the Coventry Road today with a very new looking yet poorly done vinyl repaint...
Has anyone got a picture of any of these as I'd be interested to see how they look or could rephrase that to see just how bad they look :P
However now some years have passed since then so its highly unlikely theyd waste money fixing them
Quote from: Trident 4609 on February 03, 2013, 06:12:58 PM
4604 looking nice today on the 59. First time i've seen out since it came back into service a couple of days ago.
Any ideas when 4540 and 4603 will be back
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8442779160/in/photostream
Gathered a bit of muck since..otherwise......
4406 re-entered service in Coventry on services 6/6A today after undergoing refurb duely repainted and fitted with "black" seats.
4036 & 4479 are two more being done
Any ideas why 4351 4383 and 4433 came out the paintshop half finished? As in without fleetnames, unrepainted doors and old fleetnumbers still showing?
Quote from: Ashley on February 05, 2013, 10:08:12 PM
Any ideas why 4351 4383 and 4433 came out the paintshop half finished? As in without fleetnames, unrepainted doors and old fleetnumbers still showing?
see subjects NX livery vinyls and 4351.
They haven't been anywhere near the paintshop
I saw 4433 today - fleetname on front askew, side fleetname not in the usual position, vinyl cut to show fleetname, and worst of all - they'd vinyl'd over the dents! Third rate at best.
Quote from: Stevo on February 09, 2013, 08:48:22 PM
I saw 4433 today - fleetname on front askew, side fleetname not in the usual position, vinyl cut to show fleetname, and worst of all - they'd vinyl'd over the dents! Third rate at best.
4145 now in service
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4145.html
Bordesley is now putting NX fleetnames on its Omnilinks, at least 3 done on the 17 today, here is 1800, much tidier than what Coventry did on the borrowed ones
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1800.html
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
Bordesley is now putting NX fleetnames on its Omnilinks, at least 3 done on the 17 today, here is 1800, much tidier than what Coventry did on the borrowed ones
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1800.html
That does look very smart, about time too. Will other garages follow suit?
Quote from: John on February 11, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
Bordesley is now putting NX fleetnames on its Omnilinks, at least 3 done on the 17 today, here is 1800, much tidier than what Coventry did on the borrowed ones
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1800.html
That does look very smart, about time too. Will other garages follow suit?
1815 has got the NX Fleetnames aswell seen it while passing on 4617 on the 900E it suits them :)
It does look nice, however i feel that NX should have placed the new fleetnames on their buses back shortly after the name change, after all, Central Connect became Blue Diamond almost over night.
Quote from: Lukeee on February 11, 2013, 10:50:16 PM
It does look nice, however i feel that NX should have placed the new fleetnames on their buses back shortly after the name change, after all, Central Connect became Blue Diamond almost over night.
Exactly.
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
These b7tls/alx400s need a lot more than vinyl to sort them out and the rate of refurbs seems to be a little bit slow
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
Has the program to re-engine 30 Tridents with Euro 5- ceased, haven't seen any news ones reported for a while
Quote from: Winston on February 14, 2013, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
Has the program to re-engine 30 Tridents with Euro 5- ceased, haven't seen any news ones reported for a while
There is a set of seats at Miller Street for one of them, but I cannot remember which one for definate, think it was 4614
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 14, 2013, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
Has the program to re-engine 30 Tridents with Euro 5- ceased, haven't seen any news ones reported for a while
There is a set of seats at Miller Street for one of them, but I cannot remember which one for definate, think it was 4614
Thanks Tony
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
Others in the paintshop include 4149, 4339 & 4822
4822 back out on the 9 today
4540, 4600 in paintshop from WN
4558 and 4603 should be repainted after the accident damage is completed.
The PB vinyl B7 at a guess could be 4289, that had an ipod ad
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 14, 2013, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Three more currently being done are
WB - 4299
CV - 4424
BC - 4442
At least one PB B7TL/ALX400 has now been vinyled into the new livery, on the 94 today, didn't catch which one
Has the program to re-engine 30 Tridents with Euro 5- ceased, haven't seen any news ones reported for a while
There is a set of seats at Miller Street for one of them, but I cannot remember which one for definate, think it was 4614
It is 4624 that is currently in for refurb
I meant to say 4259 has or had an ipod wrap
Spotted 4428 in new livery, front LEDs and new seat trims on 63E
Quote from: Shaun on February 19, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
Spotted 4428 in new livery, front LEDs and new seat trims on 63E
That was done a while back, but the LED's are new.
Quote from: John on February 19, 2013, 03:57:05 PM
Quote from: Shaun on February 19, 2013, 12:07:03 AM
Spotted 4428 in new livery, front LEDs and new seat trims on 63E
That was done a while back, but the LED's are new.
The dot matrix blinds are doing ok but to complement the new refurbs could the LED blinds go in would set it off Arriva do it with their buses on refurb well most of them a couple of Wednesfields refurbs still have dot matrix.
Two more being done are 4493 & 4600
Quote from: thetruth on February 19, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
4493 has already been done. Might be 4483 Tony?
Will double check which one tomorrow, I really must write down what is at Miller Street and not try and remember untill I get home
Hope it is 4483, was starting to look rather shabby with the remains of the Line 33 branding.
Has to 4483, given that its been ten months ish since they started this batch they've done pretty well and all still look virtually paintshop fresh
I know this must be a very stupid question, but I've not looked at this thread in a while - are they still repainting buses at the moment as well as vinyl or have they decided to vinyl them all from now on instead?
Only the ones with ipod all over ads have had vinyls on them
Quote from: JB93 on February 20, 2013, 08:16:40 PM
I know this must be a very stupid question, but I've not looked at this thread in a while - are they still repainting buses at the moment as well as vinyl or have they decided to vinyl them all from now on instead?
The vinyls are being used because when a particular all over advert was removed, it damaged the paint work!
Normal repaints are continuing!
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: thetruth on February 19, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
4493 has already been done. Might be 4483 Tony?
Will double check which one tomorrow, I really must write down what is at Miller Street and not try and remember untill I get home
It is 4483 being done
Still in TWM livery and a very worn interior 4325 is the latest BC bus to get an LED destination display on the front
Are they buying these LED displays new or are they being transferred from other withdrawn buses like ex dundee liberators as dont some of them have LED displays?
4540 is back from repaint/refurb and in service on the 1
Two more being done are 1764 at Walsall and 4333 at Trailways
photo of arriva bus on wednesfield section Tony
Got a picture of 1765 in Walsall on wednesday, looked paintshop fresh with no logo on the front, is that old news or one that sneaked through?
Quote from: Ashley on February 22, 2013, 01:05:23 AM
Got a picture of 1765 in Walsall on wednesday, looked paintshop fresh with no logo on the front, is that old news or one that sneaked through?
1765 was done at least weeks ago
I probably just havent seen it for ages, looks great though
4426s seats have now arrived at Miller Street
4603 is back from refurb, seen it entering service just before 4pm on the 126
Quote from: nobody on February 20, 2013, 08:34:23 PM
Is 4479 back out yet?
Yes, out on the 907 today
4210 is another being done
Quote from: Tony on February 21, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
Two more being done are 1764 at Walsall and 4333 at Trailways
Walsall paintshop must be really busy any more PL tridents going in (the ones not going) plus are the earlier ones having the grey seats put in as WA tridents still have some in too.
4210 due to repaint and It will be last primeline on 4212.
Quote from: Daniel541 on March 01, 2013, 12:32:53 PM
4210 due to repaint and It will be last primeline on 4212.
see two messages up, yesterday!
Quote from: mranon on February 28, 2013, 08:37:43 PM
4603 is back from refurb, seen it entering service just before 4pm on the 126
I thought these were getting branding for the 529 it had been mentioned elsewhere some of the later liveried tridents were being done for it.
4424 re-entered service in Coventry on 13/A this morning after refurb and repaint.
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
With the green branding seemingly disappearing, wonder if the 42xx B7TLs are going to get a refurb and some new Soho Road branding? 4299 being the first example.
I hope so, some of the WB B7TLs are in a shocking state internally and should have been re-trimmed at the very least years ago.
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
With the green branding seemingly disappearing, wonder if the 42xx B7TLs are going to get a refurb and some new Soho Road branding? 4299 being the first example.
I would have thought that if WB are not down to get any of this years new intake that least a number of their TWM liveried double deckers need to be refurbished as priority as NX have done with PB's Gemini's. Shouldn't part of the Sandwell review commitments have included refurbishment of the existing fleet, surely that can't just be limited to the No 5 Presidents
Quote from: Winston on March 10, 2013, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: nobody on March 10, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
With the green branding seemingly disappearing, wonder if the 42xx B7TLs are going to get a refurb and some new Soho Road branding? 4299 being the first example.
I would have thought that if WB are not down to get any of this years new intake that least a number of their TWM liveried double deckers need to be refurbished as priority as NX have done with PB's Gemini's. Shouldn't part of the Sandwell review commitments have included refurbishment of the existing fleet, surely that can't just be limited to the No 5 Presidents
The alx400 at WB are in a bad state they really need a refurb and once smartened up maybe some hanover blinds could be fitted along with some smart orange branding (like the old 74 one was) and it will make a huge difference to the service. I saw a gemini on the 5 tonight I'm guessing Sunday evening service is the only evening 5 service that uses double deckers.
agree, I got on 4232 and 4248 and both were just disgusting, made my skin crawl, added to the fact I trod in something that was either food or human waste, being the 74 I wouldn't rule anything out, buses like the soho road ones just begs the question is it any wonder bus use is in decline
4274 is definitely the best ALX I've been on, in terms of condition
Quote from: Ashley on March 10, 2013, 10:28:20 PM
agree, I got on 4232 and 4248 and both were just disgusting, made my skin crawl, added to the fact I trod in something that was either food or human waste, being the 74 I wouldn't rule anything out, buses like the soho road ones just begs the question is it any wonder bus use is in decline
I try to avoid 4248 worst alx400 in the fleet when stationery the bus seems to over rev shaking the bus like mad not sure if it still does it.
I'm not sure how the budgetting works (i.e garage by garage) but I don't recall any 'stream' of WB buses being refurbed recently, other than the Presidents for the 5, and there are a handful of them. To be fair, they seem to have a large batch of B7TLs to deal with, but no apparent sign of them being dealt with?
I didn't notice any stationery over revving Ash
4442
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8552580398
4378 has been done.
And 4036
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4036.html
4111 still hangs on as AG's only none NX liveried bus out in service today
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2013, 08:31:18 PM
And 4036
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4036.html
4111 still hangs on as AG's only none NX liveried bus out in service today
I must admit that 4111 does look a right state, and does stand out like a sore thumb. ???
If it were to get a repaint, would this make Acocks Green the first garage with an all-NX liveried fleet?
Quote from: Stu on March 15, 2013, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2013, 08:31:18 PM
And 4036
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4036.html
4111 still hangs on as AG's only none NX liveried bus out in service today
I must admit that 4111 does look a right state, and does stand out like a sore thumb. ???
If it were to get a repaint, would this make Acocks Green the first garage with an all-NX liveried fleet?
Yes
How come 4036 went for a second refurb?
Must say 4036 now looks fantastic. Dare I say, it almost looks brand new.
Do we think that 4036 being refurbed and surely more Presidents to come mean new 11 branding perhaps? :)
I wouldn't be suprised, however would it be worth it? And also how many more years are Presidents going to be front line NXWM vehicles?
Quote from: Ashley on March 16, 2013, 12:32:19 AM
How come 4036 went for a second refurb?
Only retrim & repaint, the same as the other 30-40 presidents that have recently been done
im suprised that there isnt a priority to get all buses in the same livery before refreshing others
I suppose if Acocks Greens fleet is already 99% in the new livery, what else can they do! 4111 is probably being kept unpainted just for the sake of it.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on February 21, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
4540 is back from repaint/refurb and in service on the 1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8563098120
1764 was also back out today on the 10
Quote from: John on March 16, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on February 21, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
4540 is back from repaint/refurb and in service on the 1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8563098120
1764 was also back out today on the 10
4540 has been out a few weeks
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4540.html
Here is 1764
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1764.html
Two more BC ones finished are
4149 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4149.html
4624 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4624.html
The branding for the 97 shown in the picture of 4624 looks really good as well. Begs the question: if the 97 isnt having new buses then where is!!
I'm not sure if anybody has noticed this but on tony's recent pic of 4149 it has registration plate Y747TOH on the front but isn't that 4152's registration
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I'm not sure if anybody has noticed this but on tony's recent pic of 4149 it has registration plate Y747TOH on the front but isn't that 4152's registration
and if you look underneath there are older pics of the correct 4149.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 17, 2013, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I'm not sure if anybody has noticed this but on tony's recent pic of 4149 it has registration plate Y747TOH on the front but isn't that 4152's registration
and if you look underneath there are older pics of the correct 4149.
I did see them stu i'm just saying they've put the wrong reg plate on that's all ;)
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 17, 2013, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I'm not sure if anybody has noticed this but on tony's recent pic of 4149 it has registration plate Y747TOH on the front but isn't that 4152's registration
and if you look underneath there are older pics of the correct 4149.
I did see them stu i'm just saying they've put the wrong reg plate on that's all ;)
Oh right Rob,
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 17, 2013, 08:36:32 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:23:35 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 17, 2013, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I'm not sure if anybody has noticed this but on tony's recent pic of 4149 it has registration plate Y747TOH on the front but isn't that 4152's registration
and if you look underneath there are older pics of the correct 4149.
I did see them stu i'm just saying they've put the wrong reg plate on that's all ;)
Oh right Rob,
I have informed BC
(or it could be 4152 has been repainted and had the incorrect fleet number applied)
4152 has a LED front blind though ;)
Quote from: uniquicity on March 17, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
4152 has a LED front blind though ;)
and......
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4458.html
I took 3 photographs in BC garage this afternoon and two of them had vehicles registered Y747 TOH in!
Well I would imagine that this mix up will be remedied before they are released onto the road again but can sympathise, imagine the plates are taken off for repaint and then perhaps even new plates are put back on as number plates can't be repainted and must pick up a fair amount of dirt and grime
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2013, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on March 17, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
4152 has a LED front blind though ;)
and......
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4458.html
I took 3 photographs in BC garage this afternoon and two of them had vehicles registered Y747 TOH in!
It does happen from time to time!! Didn't one of the Presidents (4123 perhaps) have the same reg no as a Lothian vehicle for a while - I seem to remember there being a cock up when they were new??
Quote from: don on March 18, 2013, 12:51:35 AM
It does happen from time to time!! Didn't one of the Presidents (4123 perhaps) have the same reg no as a Lothian vehicle for a while - I seem to remember there being a cock up when they were new??
Yes. It was 4122.
See pic here for info
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuart_montgomery/5198881866/
After its second repaint into BCT livery, 3050 spent at least 1 day in service as F50FOX
4600 back from repaint yesterday with 529 branding. I think 4604 also has 529 branding now.
4604 still normal saw it on 256 this evening
Quote from: mranon on March 19, 2013, 07:51:28 PM
4604 still normal saw it on 256 this evening
Ok thanks i thought it might of been. So 4602 and 4605 which are being repainted and 4604 are the only ones to be branded as 4600 is back with 529 branding
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 19, 2013, 05:22:45 PM
4600 back from repaint yesterday with 529 branding. I think 4604 also has 529 branding now.
4600 came back last wednesday mate as the livery was applied on the thursday at WN.
I meant first day i saw it in service.
4471 & 4477 are the latest two, so PBs oldest unrefurbished Gemini 4477, and oldest unrefurbished ALX400 4234 are both being done at the moment
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2013, 07:56:34 PM
oldest unrefurbished ALX400 4234 are both being done at the moment
I take it that 4234 had had it's roof re attached then!
4234 itself is at Carlyle, West Bromwich being repaired, Its seats have now arrived at Miller Street for retrimming
4605 back in service from repaint on the 59. Looks like its first day back in service
I thought 4604/5 were being branded for the 529 but it appears that 4604 still hasn't gained branding and 4605 has came back without branding although 4600 came back with branding.
I'm gathering that it is just 4597-4603 which are branded for the 529
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 25, 2013, 05:42:18 PM
4605 back in service from repaint on the 59. Looks like its first day back in service
Another one has replaced it being done which I think was 4544
Is 4602 being done now 4605 has been repainted.
Are there anymore WN tridents going fror repaint.
Some of the 459* in TWM livery (4590 is one which needs refurbishment)
I thought 4558 would be reainted into NXWM livery after its accident but it is still in TWM livery
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 25, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
Is 4602 being done now 4605 has been repainted.
Are there anymore WN tridents going fror repaint.
Some of the 459* in TWM livery (4590 is one which needs refurbishment)
I thought 4558 would be reainted into NXWM livery after its accident but it is still in TWM livery
Yes we sent 4602 and 4605 together. 4542 is in now.
I know 4299 is being or has been done but isn't about time WB started to send more of their alx400 for refurb and still some of WB's presidents are in the toothpaste livery like 4044 also the repainting and refurbs seem to have stalled at WB for the moment.
4299 is out today and looking immaculate - it was on one of 127/8/9, didn't catch which.
4333 now Refurbished & Repainted seen it this morning on the 2
4334 awaiting repaint
Quote from: Ash on March 26, 2013, 02:49:13 PM
I know 4299 is being or has been done but isn't about time WB started to send more of their alx400 for refurb and still some of WB's presidents are in the toothpaste livery like 4044 also the repainting and refurbs seem to have stalled at WB for the moment.
4113 is currently being done
AG 4111 is now in for repaint/retrim, completing AGs allocation into NX livery and leaving just two presidents to be done
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
AG 4111 is now in for repaint/retrim, completing AGs allocation into NX livery and leaving just two presidents to be done
:D
Not sure how recent but 4605 back from repaint/refurb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/8603663335/in/photostream
Quote from: nitromatt1 on March 30, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
Not sure how recent but 4605 back from repaint/refurb: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/8603663335/in/photostream
Only put back into service earlier this week. Saw it back out on its first day also on the 59
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2013, 09:00:34 PM
AG 4111 is now in for repaint/retrim, completing AGs allocation into NX livery and leaving just two presidents to be done
Presumably AG will be the first 100% NXWM livery garage?
Quote from: don on March 31, 2013, 01:48:59 PM
Presumably AG will be the first 100% NXWM livery garage?
Yes it will be !! :) :)
BN, 4542 isn't in for repaint as it was on the 255 yesterday
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 31, 2013, 03:48:42 PM
BN, 4542 isn't in for repaint as it was on the 255 yesterday
No it is 4544, slip of the finger by BN
Thanks, You did say 4544 was in.
By the way is 4602 back yet?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on March 31, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
Thanks, You did say 4544 was in.
By the way is 4602 back yet?
Yes, it was allocated to Running board 529-05 yesterday, but I managed to miss it somehow
4602 is presumably route branded for the 529 then?
In the near future yes it will be branded, give them a chance to actually do it
Think 4544 has had work done on the blinds, last time I saw it, it was much easier to read
Can anyone tell me if all of the new build vehicles for WM have a Paint warranty?.. and if so, for how long?... The reason I'm asking is that I believe many of the canadian built Ex EWS registered Locomotives may still have remaining paint warranties..in which case I can understand why their new owners (DB Schenker) may be reluctant to spend money ;)..ie other than Major overhaul or Re-instatements naturally.
Its been mentioned that the Pensnett Enviros 4800 - 29 have some sort of warrnty agreement as do the first batch of Omnilinks if I remember but im not sure about the recent new builds
Quote from: Ashley on March 31, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
In the near future yes it will be branded, give them a chance to actually do it
Think 4544 has had work done on the blinds, last time I saw it, it was much easier to read
Think it could of came back with route branding like 4600 did.
Quote from: Ashley on March 31, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
Its been mentioned that the Pensnett Enviros 4800 - 29 have some sort of warrnty agreement as do the first batch of Omnilinks if I remember but im not sure about the recent new builds
I maybe wrong on this but i thought that the first batch of Omnilinks had the warranty for 3 years only.
Quote from: Lukeee on March 31, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 31, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
Its been mentioned that the Pensnett Enviros 4800 - 29 have some sort of warrnty agreement as do the first batch of Omnilinks if I remember but im not sure about the recent new builds
I maybe wrong on this but i thought that the first batch of Omnilinks had the warranty for 3 years only.
How long is the warranty for pensett's enviros
Quote from: Lukeee on March 31, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 31, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
Its been mentioned that the Pensnett Enviros 4800 - 29 have some sort of warrnty agreement as do the first batch of Omnilinks if I remember but im not sure about the recent new builds
I maybe wrong on this but i thought that the first batch of Omnilinks had the warranty for 3 years only.
Yeah 1863-1876 that the first repaint to NXWM livery from NXC.
Quote from: Rob H on March 26, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
4333 now Refurbished & Repainted seen it this morning on the 2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8613175463
4210 was also back out today on the 13/A
BC 4163 repainted and refurbed
Three more are being done, WA 1768; PB 4481 and a Yardley Wood 434x trident, I cannot remember which one
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
Three more are being done, WA 1768; PB 4481 and a Yardley Wood 434x trident, I cannot remember which one
Is 4544 back yet?
4477 back out
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8634447019/
4334 back out
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8635539236/
4426 also back out but not able to get a picture.
I don't know whether it is deliberate or accidental, but there seems to be some sort of order to the latest refurbs.
Yardley Wood had 4333 & 4334 done, now in is 4341 which is the next lowest YW 43xx not done. It was one of the vinyled ones.
Perry Barr had 4477 done, now 4481 is being done, the next lowest Gemini not done.
Wolverhampton now have 4536 in for refurb, the lowest WN 45xx trident not done!
Has 4111 been completed yet? (the last AG President to get rid of its toothpaste livery)
And as a special request, any chance that PB's few Enviro400s in the old toothpaste livery could get 'bumped up' the queue? (just to annoy Reiss off my FB page!) ;)
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2013, 08:45:48 PM
I don't know whether it is deliberate or accidental, but there seems to be some sort of order to the latest refurbs.
Yardley Wood had 4333 & 4334 done, now in is 4341 which is the next lowest YW 43xx not done. It was one of the vinyled ones.
Perry Barr had 4477 done, now 4481 is being done, the next lowest Gemini not done.
Wolverhampton now have 4536 in for refurb, the lowest WN 45xx trident not done!
453*-454* ex 79 green branded tridents still to be done on 4539 and 4542.
Are any 458*-459* Tridents going to be done? 4590 definetly needs a refurb/repaint
You've said that at least twice now, they'll get done when they get done, deal with it
Quote from: Ashley on April 10, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
You've said that at least twice now, they'll get done when they get done, deal with it
Ok i was only asking ???
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Shame :-\. But I'm not going to complain, last year's mass Gemini refresh makes them look practically brand new, and E200s are a great addition to WB's fleet. I saw 4299 out today, looking great
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Most garages can only spare one or two buses at any time for repaint/retrim. As all of West Bromwich's Geminis are in NX livery and they are currently getting the last couple of Presidents done, I would imagine WB will then start on their ALXs. West Bromwich is one garage that does always seem to have one bus in for repaint. Other garages seem to have gaps without any in at all.
Perry Barr seem to be keeping two in at any time at the moment, but with one Gemini replacing the last one done and 4234 currently away being reroofed it looks like the ALX 400s there ahve drawn the short straw at the moment
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2013, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Most garages can only spare one or two buses at any time for repaint/retrim. As all of West Bromwich's Geminis are in NX livery and they are currently getting the last couple of Presidents done, I would imagine WB will then start on their ALXs. West Bromwich is one garage that does always seem to have one bus in for repaint. Other garages seem to have gaps without any in at all.
Perry Barr seem to be keeping two in at any time at the moment, but with one Gemini replacing the last one done and 4234 currently away being reroofed it looks like the ALX 400s there ahve drawn the short straw at the moment
I see. Thanks Tony :)
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Shame :-\. But I'm not going to complain, last year's mass Gemini refresh makes them look practically brand new, and E200s are a great addition to WB's fleet. I saw 4299 out today, looking great
Possibly once they have finished refurbing the 03/53 plate Gemini they are doing on mass at PB, they could then concentrate on doing all of WB's ALX400 & coincide it with the introduction on new Soho Rd branding, it would make a massive improvement to their appearance both internally & externally
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2013, 10:28:18 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
I still think the B7 ALXs really need a refresh, any refurbs planned for them?
I was expecting WB's ALX400's to be refurb'd as part of NXWM's commitment following the Sandwell Review, other than the Presidents on the 5 that seems to be about it at present
Shame :-\. But I'm not going to complain, last year's mass Gemini refresh makes them look practically brand new, and E200s are a great addition to WB's fleet. I saw 4299 out today, looking great
Possibly once they have finished refurbing the 03/53 plate Gemini they are doing on mass at PB, they could then concentrate on doing all of WB's ALX400 & coincide it with the introduction on new Soho Rd branding, it would make a massive improvement to their appearance both internally & externally
Are there many PB Geminis left to be completed? I imagine for the Soho Rd branding they'll use some buses already in NXWM livery, i.e. 4274/5, 4295, 4299, to try and get the branding applied as soon as possible
Quote from: Ashley on April 10, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
You've said that at least twice now, they'll get done when they get done, deal with it
Whoa, leave him alone, he was only asking, it's not as if he asks every day
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 10, 2013, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 10, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
You've said that at least twice now, they'll get done when they get done, deal with it
Whoa, leave him alone, he was only asking, it's not as if he asks every day
Thats exactly what i said, i wonder who or what rattled his cage and he still hasn't said why.
Look at The unusual workings section and look what he said there.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 11, 2013, 12:01:53 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 10, 2013, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 10, 2013, 10:10:36 PM
You've said that at least twice now, they'll get done when they get done, deal with it
Whoa, leave him alone, he was only asking, it's not as if he asks every day
Thats exactly what i said, i wonder who or what rattled his cage and he still hasn't said why.
Look at The unusual workings section and look what he said there.
Yeah I saw, he probably just had a bad day, he shouldn't take it out on you.
I'll message you rather than clogging up a thread :)
I get the impression something is planned at YW, 4333-4341 (although 4335 is unrefurbed), possible new 35 branding to coincide with a new 50 branding(hope not though, at least give us BV52s!)? Just pure guesswork but it kind of fits, to try and take back some of the competitions passengers.
On a more serious note, Isn't it time some of the worst repainted but unrefurbed buses had some internal work done? On 4388 today, most of the seats looked about 25 years old but this was easily the worst, also looked like it hadn't been cleaned all week!
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2013, 12:49:33 AM
I get the impression something is planned at YW, 4333-4341 (although 4335 is unrefurbed), possible new 35 branding to coincide with a new 50 branding(hope not though, at least give us BV52s!)? Just pure guesswork but it kind of fits, to try and take back some of the competitions passengers.
On a more serious note, Isn't it time some of the worst repainted but unrefurbed buses had some internal work done? On 4388 today, most of the seats looked about 25 years old but this was easily the worst, also looked like it hadn't been cleaned all week!
:-\, seats on the mercs look brand new in comparison, surely they could just stitch or replace the trim as a quick fix :)
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2013, 12:49:33 AM
I get the impression something is planned at YW, 4333-4341 (although 4335 is unrefurbed), possible new 35 branding to coincide with a new 50 branding(hope not though, at least give us BV52s!)? Just pure guesswork but it kind of fits, to try and take back some of the competitions passengers.
On a more serious note, Isn't it time some of the worst repainted but unrefurbed buses had some internal work done? On 4388 today, most of the seats looked about 25 years old but this was easily the worst, also looked like it hadn't been cleaned all week!
I don't think that level of damage is typical, but a lot of the early double deckers do now have dirty/ threadbare interiors and really don't do anything for the image of public transport.
NXWM should seriously consider re-trimming all of the earlier NX repaints at least to improve the internal appearances. I was thinking would it may be feasible to do that at garage level by buying one new set of seat cushions to act as a float, fit the new set to the first bus treated, send the set of seat cushions removed off to be re-trimmed, once they return, do the same with the next bus and so on...... That way, a bus would only need to be off the road for approx a day whilst it was having its seat cushions swapped over, rather than be sat around waiting for its own set to be retrimmed
Oh I know this is extreme but what I mean is generally a lot of the early unrefurbed repaints are in worse condition than some buses still in TWM livery but they don't seem to want to refurb or at the very least replace some of the threadbare seats they just get left, it drives me mad! I notice though its Yardley Wood who seem to fear replacing seats the most, at least on AG's Geminis you can see where they've replaced the seat covers on unrefurbed gems, they might be odd new style seats but at least there not old threadbare knackers that aren't fit for purpose!
Are there many PB Geminis left to be completed?
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About half a dozen, I reckon. Seem to see three or four in the old TWM colours on any given day, but 4502 is now in new livery, so I think it's basically 4484, a few 449x, plus 4500 and 4515 left to do.
Quote from: Shaun on April 10, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
Are there many PB Geminis left to be completed?
To be exact, there are
4481 (now in), 4484, 4490 (In desperate need of refurb), 4491, 4495, 4496, 4498, 4499, 4500, 4502, 4515
still in TWM livery
4044 and 4054 were both still in service today. They do really stand out in that livery.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 11, 2013, 09:47:18 AM
About half a dozen, I reckon. Seem to see three or four in the old TWM colours on any given day, but 4502 is now in new livery, so I think it's basically 4484, a few 449x, plus 4500 and 4515 left to do.
Are you sure about that? 4502 was only on the 7, on the 6th in TWM livery. Surely it hasn't been refurbed, repanelled and repainted in 6 days ???
Is there any news on 4816 yet?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2013, 07:40:08 PM
Is there any news on 4816 yet?
It is still being kept well out of the public eye until a decision is made. Any information management want known I will post on here, but until then there is 'no news'.
Quote from: Tony on April 12, 2013, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2013, 07:40:08 PM
Is there any news on 4816 yet?
It is still being kept well out of the public eye until a decision is made. Any information management want known I will post on here, but until then there is 'no news'.
Thanks Tony
Strange thing today is trim shop have finished the seats fro deroofing victim 4234 and have done them in the dark blue moquette, nothing else has been done in that for months!
Must have found a roll up the back somewhere! A bit like when the ex gas buses were re trimmed in old blue and red WMT spec moquette
Quote from: Tony on April 12, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Strange thing today is trim shop have finished the seats fro deroofing victim 4234 and have done them in the dark blue moquette, nothing else has been done in that for months!
Do we know how long until 4234 is repaired?
Quote from: Tony on April 12, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Strange thing today is trim shop have finished the seats fro deroofing victim 4234 and have done them in the dark blue moquette, nothing else has been done in that for months!
The whole set or just the top deck? And I'm sure 4006 was probably the last one to use the dark blue moquette as only the top deck was retrimmed
Quote from: trident4370 on April 12, 2013, 12:09:50 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 11, 2013, 09:47:18 AM
About half a dozen, I reckon. Seem to see three or four in the old TWM colours on any given day, but 4502 is now in new livery, so I think it's basically 4484, a few 449x, plus 4500 and 4515 left to do.
Are you sure about that? 4502 was only on the 7, on the 6th in TWM livery. Surely it hasn't been refurbed, repanelled and repainted in 6 days ???
Unless my eyes very much deceived - mind you, I was driving at the time, passing the Gem in the opposite direction on the Expressway near the old fire station...
4426 come out on the 900 and very smart livery!
1768-WA
Done seen on 302 today
Quote from: Sivan on April 15, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
4426 come out on the 900 and very smart livery!
Shouldn't of. The 44's are banned off the 900. They are the best buses for the service but they were grounded at the airport speed humps. Having said that, what about the ones on the 97?
Quote from: BCMobile on April 15, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: Sivan on April 15, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
4426 come out on the 900 and very smart livery!
Shouldn't of. The 44's are banned off the 900.
Why are the 44**'s banned from the 900?
Quote from: Shaun on April 15, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: BCMobile on April 15, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: Sivan on April 15, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
4426 come out on the 900 and very smart livery!
Shouldn't of. The 44's are banned off the 900.
Why are the 44**'s banned from the 900?
I won't mention names but a driver off there (going back when the Coventry rota was just that) he would speed over the bumps at the airport, thus causing the rear end to bounce down and smash the gearbox off the hump. The 44's have a lower set box then any other trident.
Odd though as when we had allocation issues an OmniLink would find itself on the 900, and that was OK at the airport.
Quote from: BCMobile on April 15, 2013, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: Shaun on April 15, 2013, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: BCMobile on April 15, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: Sivan on April 15, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
4426 come out on the 900 and very smart livery!
Shouldn't of. The 44's are banned off the 900.
Why are the 44**'s banned from the 900?
I won't mention names but a driver off there (going back when the Coventry rota was just that) he would speed over the bumps at the airport, thus causing the rear end to bounce down and smash the gearbox off the hump. The 44's have a lower set box then any other trident.
Odd though as when we had allocation issues an OmniLink would find itself on the 900, and that was OK at the airport.
Ok, thanks :)
But didnt BC have 44** Tridents branded for the 900 when new?
Quote from: Gareth on April 16, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
But didnt BC have 44** Tridents branded for the 900 when new?
They did i know 4425 and 6 were definately branded
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 16, 2013, 12:28:36 AM
Quote from: Gareth on April 16, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
But didnt BC have 44** Tridents branded for the 900 when new?
They did i know 4425 and 6 were definately branded
They did but I think the Airport speed bumps are a more recent thing, later than the days of the 44xx 900 branded Tridents.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 16, 2013, 12:28:36 AM
They did i know 4425 and 6 were definately branded
4425-4432 were all branded
Quote from: Mike K on April 16, 2013, 06:58:35 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 16, 2013, 12:28:36 AM
Quote from: Gareth on April 16, 2013, 12:11:46 AM
But didnt BC have 44** Tridents branded for the 900 when new?
They did i know 4425 and 6 were definately branded
They did but I think the Airport speed bumps are a more recent thing, later than the days of the 44xx 900 branded Tridents.
Yep.
When new they were for 900, nice branding too but this driver wrecked them in about 2007-8-ish. Employment terminated in 2009-ish.
Yeah I remember back in 2009ish they weren't allowed on the 900 lol, I think that's when they were first debranded. I thought it was 44** onwards, including the later BX54 batch.
I always thought the 900 tridents got debranded due to the high mileage they were clocking up on the service but obviously it's due to the lower underneath gear boxes.
Quote from: Ash on April 16, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
I always thought the 900 tridents got debranded due to the high mileage they were clocking up on the service but obviously it's due to the lower underneath gear boxes.
I'm not sure about that as someone else has said the 97 is worked by 44** Tridents and they have had no trouble at the airport.
Quote from: John on April 16, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 16, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
I always thought the 900 tridents got debranded due to the high mileage they were clocking up on the service but obviously it's due to the lower underneath gear boxes.
I'm not sure about that as someone else has said the 97 is worked by 44** Tridents and they have had no trouble at the airport.
I don't think the 97 route has to pass the speed bump, I think it just avoids it before getting to Birmingham International Rail Station
Quote from: Michael on April 16, 2013, 11:58:40 AM
Yeah I remember back in 2009ish they weren't allowed on the 900 lol, I think that's when they were first debranded. I thought it was 44** onwards, including the later BX54 batch.
Well the BX54 batch was the final facelift tridents we had (is 4634 the last trident nx has? Correct me please. Alx400 chassis enviro doesn't count lol), they solved the gearbox issue but the retarders on them are very jerky.The body would bolt forward an inch with the handbrake on. They've improved a snatch but still an issue in my opinion. Nicest buses we got though.
And Shaun is right regarding the airport it enters a different way then the 900 I'm told, I never bothered learning it as I've no intention to ever set foot on a 97 again since the incident. Except obviously to go to the garage lol
Anyway, regarding refurbs, I presume there is a leveling system involved as some vehicles come back with just new seats but others look as though they've been sent back to Dennis for a rebuild.
Others come back with CrystalEye CCTV retrofitted, others haven't been touched electrics wise.
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 16, 2013, 11:58:40 AM
Yeah I remember back in 2009ish they weren't allowed on the 900 lol, I think that's when they were first debranded. I thought it was 44** onwards, including the later BX54 batch.
Well the BX54 batch was the final facelift tridents we had (is 4634 the last trident nx has? Correct me please. Alx400 chassis enviro doesn't count lol), they solved the gearbox issue but the retarders on them are very jerky.The body would bolt forward an inch with the handbrake on. They've improved a snatch but still an issue in my opinion. Nicest buses we got though.
And Shaun is right regarding the airport it enters a different way then the 900 I'm told, I never bothered learning it as I've no intention to ever set foot on a 97 again since the incident. Except obviously to go to the garage lol
Anyway, regarding refurbs, I presume there is a leveling system involved as some vehicles come back with just new seats but others look as though they've been sent back to Dennis for a rebuild.
Others come back with CrystalEye CCTV retrofitted, others haven't been touched electrics wise.
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
And Shaun is right regarding the airport it enters a different way then the 900 I'm told, I never bothered learning it as I've no intention to ever set foot on a 97 again since the incident. Except obviously to go to the garage lol
What incident would this be BC Mobile? Are you at liberty to tell?
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on April 16, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Can't agree more, the Y reg and 52 ones in particular are my favourites from a passenger point of view as well, seem quieter and smoother as you say and have lighter interiors and floors also aided by the extra window behind the staircase
Edit**** Sorry meant 52 plate ones
Quote from: wilmotm on April 16, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on April 16, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Can't agree more, the Y reg and 02 ones in particular are my favourites from a passenger point of view as well, seem quieter and smoother as you say and have lighter interiors and floors also aided by the extra window behind the staircase
The BV52 plates are the best Voith Tridents. However generally the ZF ones, although less smooth, are faster, so they'd win my vote. 4541 and 4609 are two fast examples ;)
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on April 16, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 16, 2013, 11:58:40 AM
Yeah I remember back in 2009ish they weren't allowed on the 900 lol, I think that's when they were first debranded. I thought it was 44** onwards, including the later BX54 batch.
Well the BX54 batch was the final facelift tridents we had (is 4634 the last trident nx has? Correct me please. Alx400 chassis enviro doesn't count lol), they solved the gearbox issue but the retarders on them are very jerky.The body would bolt forward an inch with the handbrake on. They've improved a snatch but still an issue in my opinion. Nicest buses we got though.
And Shaun is right regarding the airport it enters a different way then the 900 I'm told, I never bothered learning it as I've no intention to ever set foot on a 97 again since the incident. Except obviously to go to the garage lol
Anyway, regarding refurbs, I presume there is a leveling system involved as some vehicles come back with just new seats but others look as though they've been sent back to Dennis for a rebuild.
Others come back with CrystalEye CCTV retrofitted, others haven't been touched electrics wise.
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Hi there!
Oh without a shadow of a doubt you're right. The age of the 41's are showing without refurb, with very heavy steering and brakes. I got to tell ya, the best buses i've driven are the late 43XX. If you look out for the ones with smooth black plastic steering wheels you'll know the ones. They have no bouncing or jolting, the 41's seem to rock just before the power delivery, 43's have no defects from what I can see. I think the original BC ones (like 4355 etc) are the best, shame YW has still claimed ours. (Buggars...)
Quote from: Mike K on April 16, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 04:26:07 PM
And Shaun is right regarding the airport it enters a different way then the 900 I'm told, I never bothered learning it as I've no intention to ever set foot on a 97 again since the incident. Except obviously to go to the garage lol
What incident would this be BC Mobile? Are you at liberty to tell?
All I can really say is a couple of key words and the rest you can work out; Daysaver, Year Old, ............ . You dont need to be an investigator to work that one out. Not worth it over £3.90
Quote from: wilmotm on April 16, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on April 16, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Can't agree more, the Y reg and 52 ones in particular are my favourites from a passenger point of view as well, seem quieter and smoother as you say and have lighter interiors and floors also aided by the extra window behind the staircase
Edit**** Sorry meant 52 plate ones
You'll be suprised how many people dont notice that extra window by the staircase; it does add an airy feel. I always want to ask passengers how my driving was, just to make sure i'm not braking harshly without my knowledge. Do you, as a passenger, notice the jolt as some of the buses come to a stop? I see it when I catch a bus home, peoples heads bounce back.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 16, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
Quote from: wilmotm on April 16, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on April 16, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Hello to my collegue,
I much prefer the 41XX, 42XX and 43XX Tridents, much smoother, no jerking or kangorooing :)
Can't agree more, the Y reg and 02 ones in particular are my favourites from a passenger point of view as well, seem quieter and smoother as you say and have lighter interiors and floors also aided by the extra window behind the staircase
The BV52 plates are the best Voith Tridents. However generally the ZF ones, although less smooth, are faster, so they'd win my vote. 4541 and 4609 are two fast examples ;)
Oh on a "fast" road
(Such as the 900, with the National Speed Limit roads, quick acceleration down the slip road is preferable) as such you do need a ZF, just make sure passengers hold on
(You dont want someone walking round the bus as you're accelerating, as gear changes can be sudden. Easy to unsettle some people - nothing bad is ment by this comment) ;)
Best Regards To All,
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
You'll be suprised how many people dont notice that extra window by the staircase; it does add an airy feel. I always want to ask passengers how my driving was, just to make sure i'm not braking harshly without my knowledge. Do you, as a passenger, notice the jolt as some of the buses come to a stop? I see it when I catch a bus home, peoples heads bounce back.
Never has a little window made such a difference, changed the whole feel of the downstairs and in my opinion evens out the design of the bus matching the opposite window.
And yes occasionally, not so much on the older buses, but the new Enviro 200's as already mentioned and the B7RLE's most definetly. And I can say for a fact that it is not just the drivers, know a WN driver and always seem to travel on buses he drives and the same route, same driver with a Trident his driving is fine, some of the best out there but give him a B7RLE and its quite different.
Sometimes when a driver opens the doors slightly before coming to a stop i.e. the bus is still doing 1-2 mph there also seems to be a jolt when coming to a stop when is it the the bus stop brake??? applies
Quote from: wilmotm on April 16, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: BCMobile on April 16, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
You'll be suprised how many people dont notice that extra window by the staircase; it does add an airy feel. I always want to ask passengers how my driving was, just to make sure i'm not braking harshly without my knowledge. Do you, as a passenger, notice the jolt as some of the buses come to a stop? I see it when I catch a bus home, peoples heads bounce back.
Never has a little window made such a difference, changed the whole feel of the downstairs and in my opinion evens out the design of the bus matching the opposite window.
And yes occasionally, not so much on the older buses, but the new Enviro 200's as already mentioned and the B7RLE's most definetly. And I can say for a fact that it is not just the drivers, know a WN driver and always seem to travel on buses he drives and the same route, same driver with a Trident his driving is fine, some of the best out there but give him a B7RLE and its quite different.
Sometimes when a driver opens the doors slightly before coming to a stop i.e. the bus is still doing 1-2 mph there also seems to be a jolt when coming to a stop when is it the the bus stop brake??? applies
Glad I'm not the only one noticing that then, Wilmott Dixon.
Regarding the opening doors, they shouldn't do that anyway as the right proceedure is Handbrake >> Door Open. But yes, you're right when the interlock applies it is equivelant to applying the handbrake whilst the bus still moves.
Right ok I can understand that now, seems to be a trait of PE drivers in particular that one! Interlock is the equivalent of a bus stop break then
4602 back out without 529 branding on the 59 today
4471 now repainted
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 15, 2013, 06:54:28 PM
1768-WA
Done seen on 302 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8666432236/
Next two in are WA 1760 and WN 4542
...which only leaves 4539 from the handful that had 79 stickers, to be refurbished, sorry ive been away have 4536 and 4544 come back, Trident 4609? Maybe you know :)
4358 is next to be done, 4481 is now back in service
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 24, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
...which only leaves 4539 from the handful that had 79 stickers, to be refurbished, sorry ive been away have 4536 and 4544 come back, Trident 4609? Maybe you know :)
Hi Ashley!
4536 i haven't seen back and neither is 4544.
One thing you have missed are the hybrids on the 59!
I get enough of them on the 1 Nathan, love the Enviros I think you know but the Geminis just no
Cannot wait for an Enviro to get put on the 59
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 24, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
I get enough of them on the 1 Nathan, love the Enviros I think you know but the Geminis just no
Shame that they have branded all of 5410-21 so they only really put 5510-14 on the 59.
Although when i went to the garage on saturday(I will message you to tell you about it) i programmed in Routes 3/5/59/126 onto 5418 which was yet awaiting service. I have a photo of 5418 which i programmed myself into Route 59! Looks quite good actually.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 24, 2013, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 24, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
I get enough of them on the 1 Nathan, love the Enviros I think you know but the Geminis just no
Shame that they have branded all of 5410-21 so they only really put 5510-14 on the 59.
Although when i went to the garage on saturday(I will message you to tell you about it) i programmed in Routes 3/5/59/126 onto 5418 which was yet awaiting service. I have a photo of 5418 which i programmed myself into Route 59! Looks quite good actually.
Will be interesting to see what happens on Sundays now all the hybrids are in service, scope for plenty of unusual working, as long as all routes have been programmed into them.
have you got a picture with the 126 on the blinds?
Sorry, i never had a picture. I might get a flickr account and upload them for you.
Stu,
When i went to the garage they said they have branded too many E400H so may have to debrand some.
The 59 and the 1 could both be operated fully hybrid with at least 5 spare as there are less than 10on the 1 and definetly only 6 buses on the 59 on sunday.
If they do debrand a couple of the E400H routes like the 529 can have a few on sundays.
Only reason spare hybrids (3 on Saturday and 2 mon-fri) are used on the 59 is because (This is what i was told on my Park Lane garage visit) the 59 is so frequent (Every 5 mins Mon-Sat 9 mins sunday) that if a Hybrid breaks down on the 1 then they can take a bus off the 59 without causing too much disruption.
From what drivers and PL garage told me, the 1 needs 18 buses with a spare bus in the garage for a afternoon peak running board wit 2 hybrids used on the 59.
On saturday 3 hybrids were on the 59 (5511/13/14) so this might be a regular occurance.
On Sunday i was expecting at least one hybrid on the 59 but didn't happen
Lets hope they're debranded tidily, unlike some of Walsall's B7 singles, which still had 37 branding showing through!
Quote from: Westy on April 24, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Lets hope they're debranded tidily, unlike some of Walsall's B7 singles, which still had 37 branding showing through!
I don't know if they are exactly debranding them but what they told me when i visited the garage was that too many had bben branded.
Branded too many? Sloppy management and bad organisation!
Quote from: Gareth on April 24, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Branded too many? Sloppy management and bad organisation!
Well somebody on here said on here somwhere that only 9-10 hybrids would be branded altogether.
I thought some of the E400H would be unbranded but evidently not as from what i've seen 5410-21 are all branding.
But it is Park Lane we are talking about so Branded B5's and the E400's will appear on the 59 at some point. E400H on the 59 would be better than the B5's as because there are a few less seats downstairs the 59 was packed today wheras the E400H have much more seats so would be better for the 59 regarding capacity.
Plus i would love to see a E400H on the 59. I alredy programmed 5418 into the 59 at Park Lane Garage which i have a photo of on my phone.
I think 1785 is the last of the shabby WA BZR's
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 24, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
I think 1785 is the last of the shabby WA BZR's
Yeah it is. 1785 is the last ex-37 branded one still in TWM livery. you can still see the remains of some of the 37 branding under the end of the adverts.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 24, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Stu,
When i went to the garage they said they have branded too many E400H so may have to debrand some.
The 59 and the 1 could both be operated fully hybrid with at least 5 spare as there are less than 10on the 1 and definetly only 6 buses on the 59 on sunday.
If they do debrand a couple of the E400H routes like the 529 can have a few on sundays.
Only reason spare hybrids (3 on Saturday and 2 mon-fri) are used on the 59 is because (This is what i was told on my Park Lane garage visit) the 59 is so frequent (Every 5 mins Mon-Sat 9 mins sunday) that if a Hybrid breaks down on the 1 then they can take a bus off the 59 without causing too much disruption.
From what drivers and PL garage told me, the 1 needs 18 buses with a spare bus in the garage for a afternoon peak running board wit 2 hybrids used on the 59.
On saturday 3 hybrids were on the 59 (5511/13/14) so this might be a regular occurance.
On Sunday i was expecting at least one hybrid on the 59 but didn't happen
It will be such a shame if they have to debrand some of them as i think the paintwork never seems to be perfect once they take branding away.
I do hope that the Hybrids make appearances on other WN routes on Sundays Nathan as it would be a shame having them sat in the garage after the money that has been spent on them, also would give the ideal opportunity to see how hybrids compare to normal buses on other routes. Would there be any advantage gained using them on routes 126, 255 & 256 which are less start stop than other routes?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 25, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 24, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Stu,
When i went to the garage they said they have branded too many E400H so may have to debrand some.
The 59 and the 1 could both be operated fully hybrid with at least 5 spare as there are less than 10on the 1 and definetly only 6 buses on the 59 on sunday.
If they do debrand a couple of the E400H routes like the 529 can have a few on sundays.
Only reason spare hybrids (3 on Saturday and 2 mon-fri) are used on the 59 is because (This is what i was told on my Park Lane garage visit) the 59 is so frequent (Every 5 mins Mon-Sat 9 mins sunday) that if a Hybrid breaks down on the 1 then they can take a bus off the 59 without causing too much disruption.
From what drivers and PL garage told me, the 1 needs 18 buses with a spare bus in the garage for a afternoon peak running board wit 2 hybrids used on the 59.
On saturday 3 hybrids were on the 59 (5511/13/14) so this might be a regular occurance.
On Sunday i was expecting at least one hybrid on the 59 but didn't happen
It will be such a shame if they have to debrand some of them as i think the paintwork never seems to be perfect once they take branding away.
I do hope that the Hybrids make appearances on other WN routes on Sundays Nathan as it would be a shame having them sat in the garage after the money that has been spent on them, also would give the ideal opportunity to see how hybrids compare to normal buses on other routes. Would there be any advantage gained using them on routes 126, 255 & 256 which are less start stop than other routes?
I would love to see Hybrids going down the country lanes of the 255/6!
Have they stopped refurbing the alx 400 bodied b7ts??
Stu, I wound't know about if the 126/255/6 as i am only 13/almost 14 but from posts on here i gather hybrids on the 126 wouldn't work. Although they are definetly programmed to the 126 as i programmed in 5418 to the 126.
I would love to see hybrids on other routes but the 59 doesn't even have hybrids on sundays.
From what i see in Wolverhampton on Sundays, They try and keep the same type of bus on the same routes.
You only get the Hybrids on the 1, tridents on the 32/33/79( Interwork), 59,126 and 529.
B7RLE's on a sunday are used on the 2,3,4,5/25/27 (Interwork),11,X1,255/6 with a single B6 on the 62.
From what i've seen each sunday PL garage try and keep the same type of bus on each route.
The 255/6 only need B7RLE on a sunday
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 25, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Stu, I wound't know about if the 126/255/6 as i am only 13/almost 14 but from posts on here i gather hybrids on the 126 wouldn't work. Although they are definetly programmed to the 126 as i programmed in 5418 to the 126.
I would love to see hybrids on other routes but the 59 doesn't even have hybrids on sundays.
From what i see in Wolverhampton on Sundays, They try and keep the same type of bus on the same routes.
You only get the Hybrids on the 1, tridents on the 32/33/79( Interwork), 59,126 and 529.
B7RLE's on a sunday are used on the 2,3,4,5/25/27 (Interwork),11,X1,255/6 with a single B6 on the 62.
From what i've seen each sunday PL garage try and keep the same type of bus on each route.
The 255/6 only need B7RLE on a sunday
Nathan, i never realised that Wolverhampton were so strict with there allocation on Sundays. I know i have seen an evening 256 with a B7RLE before, but thought it may have changed over during the evening. Will be interesy]ting to see if the single B6 on the 62 survives now the X1 is withdrawn, or does it have to be a B6 due to the roads it uses.
Well this is only on sundays. Mon/Sat buses are all over the place.
The roads are quite narrow on the 62 route with parkedcars although a trident did appear a few sundays ago.
Sundays are quite boring in wolverhampton for spotting.
NX are now doing the Sunday 10 service either with arriva or replacing arriva on there.
I think with the X1 going a B7RLE will be used on there
Replacing Arriva on the 10 I believe
Yes i just remembered :) Timetable is now up on the tettenhall wood bus stop
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 25, 2013, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 25, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Stu, I wound't know about if the 126/255/6 as i am only 13/almost 14 but from posts on here i gather hybrids on the 126 wouldn't work. Although they are definetly programmed to the 126 as i programmed in 5418 to the 126.
I would love to see hybrids on other routes but the 59 doesn't even have hybrids on sundays.
From what i see in Wolverhampton on Sundays, They try and keep the same type of bus on the same routes.
You only get the Hybrids on the 1, tridents on the 32/33/79( Interwork), 59,126 and 529.
B7RLE's on a sunday are used on the 2,3,4,5/25/27 (Interwork),11,X1,255/6 with a single B6 on the 62.
From what i've seen each sunday PL garage try and keep the same type of bus on each route.
The 255/6 only need B7RLE on a sunday
Nathan, i never realised that Wolverhampton were so strict with there allocation on Sundays. I know i have seen an evening 256 with a B7RLE before, but thought it may have changed over during the evening. Will be interesy]ting to see if the single B6 on the 62 survives now the X1 is withdrawn, or does it have to be a B6 due to the roads it uses.
Strict with allocating??? Where do you guys get this information from???
As for the blinds everything gets programmed in why would just a couple of routes be programmed in????
Quote from: BN on April 25, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 25, 2013, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 25, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
Stu, I wound't know about if the 126/255/6 as i am only 13/almost 14 but from posts on here i gather hybrids on the 126 wouldn't work. Although they are definetly programmed to the 126 as i programmed in 5418 to the 126.
I would love to see hybrids on other routes but the 59 doesn't even have hybrids on sundays.
From what i see in Wolverhampton on Sundays, They try and keep the same type of bus on the same routes.
You only get the Hybrids on the 1, tridents on the 32/33/79( Interwork), 59,126 and 529.
B7RLE's on a sunday are used on the 2,3,4,5/25/27 (Interwork),11,X1,255/6 with a single B6 on the 62.
From what i've seen each sunday PL garage try and keep the same type of bus on each route.
The 255/6 only need B7RLE on a sunday
Nathan, i never realised that Wolverhampton were so strict with there allocation on Sundays. I know i have seen an evening 256 with a B7RLE before, but thought it may have changed over during the evening. Will be interesy]ting to see if the single B6 on the 62 survives now the X1 is withdrawn, or does it have to be a B6 due to the roads it uses.
Strict with allocating??? Where do you guys get this information from???
As for the blinds everything gets programmed in why would just a couple of routes be programmed in????
Can't be that strict as a couple of Sundays back 4567 was on the 5/25/27, along with route 6 branded 2077!
Wasn't me that said WN are 'Strict' with allocating. I just said that you usually get the same type of bus on each routes on a sunday unlike in the week when buses are sometimes all over the place.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 25, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Wasn't me that said WN are 'Strict' with allocating. I just said that you usually get the same type of bus on each routes on a sunday unlike in the week when buses are sometimes all over the place.
I wasn't talking to you ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 25, 2013, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 25, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Wasn't me that said WN are 'Strict' with allocating. I just said that you usually get the same type of bus on each routes on a sunday unlike in the week when buses are sometimes all over the place.
I wasn't talking to you ;)
I wasn't speaking to either;) Don't worry matt i was replying to BN's comment
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
4481 is now back in service
Seen it on the way home today, on the 907. The red strip that it had while in TWM livery below the top front window (must have been accident repairs, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6923415555) has been repainted black like it should be, unlike 4506 when it was refurbished.
Quote from: John on April 27, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
4481 is now back in service
Seen it on the way home today, on the 907. The red strip that it had while in TWM livery below the top front window (must have been accident repairs, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6923415555) has been repainted black like it should be, unlike 4506 when it was refurbished.
Here is 4481 on 907 again. (Note the repainted black bar above display)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8693263294/
4113 now refurbished
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8692135451/
4602 (no-one else has a pic yet)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8693299018/
Quote from: John on April 29, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
4602 (no-one else has a pic yet)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8693299018/
I think I do have a pic but 99% of the stuff I take doesn't leave my computer
Quote from: John on April 29, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: John on April 27, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
4481 is now back in service
Seen it on the way home today, on the 907. The red strip that it had while in TWM livery below the top front window (must have been accident repairs, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6923415555) has been repainted black like it should be, unlike 4506 when it was refurbished.
I caught it last week on the 59 think on first day after repaint. By the looks of it will not gain 529 branding and neither is 4604/5
Here is 4481 on 907 again. (Note the repainted black bar above display)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8693263294/
4113 now refurbished
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8692135451/
4602 (no-one else has a pic yet)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8693299018/
Is 4536,4542 or 4544 back yet. Haven't seen 4543 in a few weeks. Is this going in for repaint/refurb
Saw it a few days ago so it hasn't gone?
4111 is back in service refurbed, it was on the 11A today so I think that means AG has now become the first garage to have a fleet entirely in new livery? Also not sure if anyones noticed this before but since the volvo sheds were delivered for the 71/72, I think they are now the second garage to have a fleet with 0 paper blinds, after Bordesley. How times change!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 03, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
4111 is back in service refurbed, it was on the 11A today so I think that means AG has now become the first garage to have a fleet entirely in new livery? Also not sure if anyones noticed this before but since the volvo sheds were delivered for the 71/72, I think they are now the second garage to have a fleet with 0 paper blinds, after Bordesley. How times change!
Yes I believe it is now.
4544 spotted on cannock rd earlier, all smart freshly repainted
Quote from: trident4370 on May 03, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
4111 is back in service refurbed, it was on the 11A today so I think that means AG has now become the first garage to have a fleet entirely in new livery? Also not sure if anyones noticed this before but since the volvo sheds were delivered for the 71/72, I think they are now the second garage to have a fleet with 0 paper blinds, after Bordesley. How times change!
How about BC, they've eradicated Paper blinds with the Enviro 200's haven't they? So that's 3 garages, and looking at the opposite I reckon PE are probably the worst off with all their Merc's and B6's
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 30, 2013, 09:52:36 PM
Is 4536,4542 or 4544 back yet. Haven't seen 4543 in a few weeks. Is this going in for repaint/refurb
2 referbs have been brought over from Walsall today
4536 was in the garage this evening I presume this was one of them
1697 could do with a repaint
Quote from: Shaun on May 05, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
1697 could do with a repaint
1633 & 1645 from PE could do with a repaint to.
Reckon 1647 was the last Merc refurb
Is does seem that the refurb program for the Mark II mercs has ended at 1647
The problem is, in the short to medium term, can you see enough single deckers coming along to replace the Mercs?
I was referring to a repaint not a refurb
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Shaun on May 05, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
1697 could do with a repaint
1633 & 1645 from PE could do with a repaint to.
Well 1645 is one that really does confuse me, they've gone to all the trouble and expense of having it re-engined and digital destination equipment put in yet its still going round with 15 year old paint work and a really worn interior, and I really do hope a few more Merc's get a refurb as there still great buses
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 05, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Shaun on May 05, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
1697 could do with a repaint
1633 & 1645 from PE could do with a repaint to.
Well 1645 is one that really does confuse me, they've gone to all the trouble and expense of having it re-engined and digital destination equipment put in yet its still going round with 15 year old paint work and a really worn interior, and I really do hope a few more Merc's get a refurb as there still great buses
1646 is another like that
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
The problem is, in the short to medium term, can you see enough single deckers coming along to replace the Mercs?
Not at present, but NX policy is to buy new rather than refurb existing which can only be a good thing.....
There is always a possibility NX could bring the 2014 orders forward to be able to buy more new Euro 5 buses rather than the more expensive new Euro 6 models
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 05, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 05, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Shaun on May 05, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
1697 could do with a repaint
1633 & 1645 from PE could do with a repaint to.
Well 1645 is one that really does confuse me, they've gone to all the trouble and expense of having it re-engined and digital destination equipment put in yet its still going round with 15 year old paint work and a really worn interior, and I really do hope a few more Merc's get a refurb as there still great buses
1646 is another like that
1645 is still in as delivered paintwork, 1646 at least has been repainted since new
Quote from: Winston on May 05, 2013, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 05, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 05, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Shaun on May 05, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
1697 could do with a repaint
1633 & 1645 from PE could do with a repaint to.
Well 1645 is one that really does confuse me, they've gone to all the trouble and expense of having it re-engined and digital destination equipment put in yet its still going round with 15 year old paint work and a really worn interior, and I really do hope a few more Merc's get a refurb as there still great buses
1646 is another like that
1645 is still in as delivered paintwork, 1646 at least has been repainted since new
It still looks odd to see an LED Merc in TWM livery though!
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 04, 2013, 09:16:05 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 03, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
4111 is back in service refurbed, it was on the 11A today so I think that means AG has now become the first garage to have a fleet entirely in new livery? Also not sure if anyones noticed this before but since the volvo sheds were delivered for the 71/72, I think they are now the second garage to have a fleet with 0 paper blinds, after Bordesley. How times change!
How about BC, they've eradicated Paper blinds with the Enviro 200's haven't they? So that's 3 garages, and looking at the opposite I reckon PE are probably the worst off with all their Merc's and B6's
Forgot all about BC, yeah that'd make them the third garage to do that! I suppose the fact Pensnett are fitting some mercs with LED's helps them a bit.
A better pic of 4471, which has not gained 97 branding like the others
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8718220822/
4544 was on the 1 today but never got chance for a photo, got 4602 though
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 07, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
4544 was on the 1 today but never got chance for a photo, got 4602 though
Is amazing, all the hybrids are now out and yet PL can`t get a full turn out on the 1?
No the 1 has had a full hybrid contigent, couple of days last week if I remember that was the case anyway
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2013, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 07, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
4544 was on the 1 today but never got chance for a photo, got 4602 though
Is amazing, all the hybrids are now out and yet PL can`t get a full turn out on the 1?
They are fitting the Next Stop Announcements onto the Hybrids so Some will probably be in the garage and thats the reason why the 1 and 59 are getting less hybrids this week
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 07, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2013, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 07, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
4544 was on the 1 today but never got chance for a photo, got 4602 though
Is amazing, all the hybrids are now out and yet PL can`t get a full turn out on the 1?
They are fitting the Next Stop Announcements onto the Hybrids so Some will probablt be in the garage and thats the reason why the 1 and 59 are getting less hybrids this week
Thanks for the explanation Nathan.
The announcements on ours in Wolves are typical black country. The ones on the 222 are dull and the BC hybrids can wear thin in the ears after a while
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 07, 2013, 10:45:22 PM
The announcements on ours in Wolves are typical black country. The ones on the 222 are dull and the BC hybrids can wear thin in the ears after a while
I thought the BC hybrids' announcements were annoying until the woman on the 1 came along. Definitely prefer the 222's and the BC's next-stop announcements
I still haven't managed to get on a talking hybrid at WN or PE E200. Are they as annoying as BC's hybrid Next Stop Announcements
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 07, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
I still haven't managed to get on a talking hybrid at WN or PE E200. Are they as annoying as BC's hybrid Next Stop Announcements
No.....worse ;D
I've done maybe 5 journeys on centrals hybrids and one journey on the 222 and so far have only been on one vehicle where the annocements have actually worked. plus it was that quiet I couldn't make out what was being said anyway. and with diamond I must be well over a hundred journeys on there hybrids on various routes (s2,s3,16,56,82,301,404E) and never herd a next stop announcement or seen the screens working showing next stop. Whats the poing to investing in this new system if its not going to be up and running!!!
Quote from: dannygill on May 08, 2013, 12:31:07 AM
I've done maybe 5 journeys on centrals hybrids and one journey on the 222 and so far have only been on one vehicle where the annocements have actually worked. plus it was that quiet I couldn't make out what was being said anyway. and with diamond I must be well over a hundred journeys on there hybrids on various routes (s2,s3,16,56,82,301,404E) and never herd a next stop announcement or seen the screens working showing next stop. Whats the poing to investing in this new system if its not going to be up and running!!!
The 222 has only just had it installed and 823 doesn't do it as far as I am aware. Also, the BC Hybrids only talk on the 22/23, not the 24
I must say too that the refurb standard of the alx400 is brilliant! They look really smart all shinny on the outside and the new seats look great. Buses should be treated to this every 5 years I think because it gives them a new life almost and the alx400 look almost new!
Quote from: dannygill on May 08, 2013, 12:50:44 AM
I must say too that the refurb standard of the alx400 is brilliant! They look really smart all shinny on the outside and the new seats look great. Buses should be treated to this every 5 years I think because it gives them a new life almost and the alx400 look almost new!
If it wasn't for some of the selfish idiots that use the buses, feet on seats, rubbish chucked on the floor, dribble on the seats fag ends stubbed on seats, ripped up tickets & scratchcards, food debri, half full cans of drink left on the floor/seats and lets not forget burnt seats graffiti & window etching....I could go on...then the buses would not need doing half as regular as they do!!
Perhaps not a refurb, but 4111 was on the 73 today having had a repaint. I think it was the last one with the1 branding.
4111 was the last branded for the1, that leaves only 4044 and 4054 to be painted out of the reminants of their toothpaste 451 livery
Quote from: Eric Shaw on May 08, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Perhaps not a refurb, but 4111 was on the 73 today having had a repaint. I think it was the last one with the1 branding.
It's spent the last two days out on the 1, and yes it was the last bus at Acocks Green in 'old' branding, now they have a 100% NX livery fleet. 8)
Has anything else gone in for refurb or repaint yet?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 08, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
Has anything else gone in for refurb or repaint yet?
I normally list what has gone in by what seats arrive at Miller Street for recovering, Unfortunately not many seats arrive at a car park in Luton where I currently am working so I haven't been able to tell!
Ahh ok
4334 on the YW 49
4536 and 4544 back from repaint/refurb
4217 from Coventry has been done.
4341 back in service today fully repainted and refurbed, forgot what route it was on though ??? might have been the 76
Quote from: uniquicity on May 11, 2013, 06:14:52 PM
4217 from Coventry has been done.
4411 is the next from Coventry
One for Rob4367. Saw 4441 (now yesterday) on the bristol road fully repainted and refurbished, they always look mint in the sun
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 17, 2013, 12:59:04 AM
One for Rob4367. Saw 4441 (now yesterday) on the bristol road fully repainted and refurbished, they always look mint in the sun
Thought I hadn't seen 4441 for a while :D looking forward to seeing it
1785
Refurbised
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 17, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
1785
Refurbised
I think 1760 is in now which just leaves two stripey Eclipse left in service
Last stripey ones are 1761 and 1786 arent they?
The alx400 look awesome repainted and the de-leathered enviro at Walsall looks good (on the outside on the inside its been robbed!!). most of the alx400 are 10 or + years and look brand new done up, so well done paint shop. The new seat covers look good on alx400 but it did take me a while to get used to seeing the dark coloured seats with the blue plastic backing didn't seem to look right at first (eye catching you could say). The only negative I can come up with is some on the 529 could of done with a real good deep clean, getting a jet wash and some bleach and blitzing it. but as I don't know what goes on to refurb them I can moan too much but well done with the paint jobs!
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 17, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Last stripey ones are 1761 and 1786 arent they?
Yes just 2 left. No doubtedly these will be repainted/refurbed soon. They are concentrating on Transbus Tridents 453*-454* in the batch at the moment it seems.
4536,4544 have been done and 4542 is in currently i think (haven't seen it in a while)
The 455*-456* need attention aswell as 4557-62 are all in TWM livery. 4590 is one that needs to go in for repaint/refurb
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 17, 2013, 09:33:02 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 17, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Last stripey ones are 1761 and 1786 arent they?
Yes just 2 left. No doubtedly these will be repainted/refurbed soon. They are concentrating on Transbus Tridents 453*-454* in the batch at the moment it seems.
4536,4544 have been done and 4542 is in currently i think (haven't seen it in a while)
The 455*-456* need attention aswell as 4557-62 are all in TWM livery. 4590 is one that needs to go in for repaint/refurb
4554 and 4555 too
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 17, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Last stripey ones are 1761 and 1786 arent they?
...then they can get going on their own Tridents.
And then there was one!
Popped into Miller Street today, three sets of seats for retrim belonged to 4577; 4490 and 4054, so 4044 is the last President not in Red/White
Have NX stopped refurbing the Y reg tridents and the early alx400 bodied b7tls. I only ask because I havent seen many on this list for a while, maybe cos I havent been on much whilst I was doing exams
I wouldn't say they've stopped refurbing those batches, 4217 was done a few weeks ago
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2013, 06:19:03 PM
And then there was one!
Popped into Miller Street today, three sets of seats for retrim belonged to 4577; 4490 and 4054, so 4044 is the last President not in Red/White
4577 is being done? Does that mean they are starting to repaint/refurb the 126 branded tridents. Maybe new 126 branding?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 21, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
I wouldn't say they've stopped refurbing those batches, 4217 was done a few weeks ago
and 4210
4484 now refurbished. Will link to pic when I upload it
Also here is 4341
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8769709189/
4484
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8769741457/
Quote from: John on May 21, 2013, 10:05:35 PM
Also here is 4341
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8769709189/
4484
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8769741457/
seen them both myself this morning they look FANTASTIC ;)
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 17, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
1785
Refurbised
1785 now back out in service looking freshly repainted on the 302 today.
4542 is back in service repainted/retrimmed
Quote from: Winston on May 25, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
4542 is back in service repainted/retrimmed
Which Route was it on Winston as i didn't manage to spot it.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 25, 2013, 10:49:54 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 25, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
4542 is back in service repainted/retrimmed
Which Route was it on Winston as i didn't manage to spot it.
256 at 8pm ish tonight
I went on the 256 today on my favourite bus 4609 and didn't spot it so must of been put on this evening.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 25, 2013, 11:07:32 PM
I went on the 256 today on my favourite bus 4609 and didn't spot it so must of been put on this evening.
Or it was on the 257 during the trip
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 25, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 25, 2013, 11:07:32 PM
I went on the 256 today on my favourite bus 4609 and didn't spot it so must of been put on this evening.
Or it was on the 257 during the trip
More than likley so ;)
It was definitely out in the daytime. Had a text from a friend that 4542 was a repaint / refurb at 15.30.
Quote from: uniquicity on May 25, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
It was definitely out in the daytime. Had a text from a friend that 4542 was a repaint / refurb at 15.30.
Ok thanks :) For some reason i forgot about the 257 ;)
4539 is now the only ex green 79 branded trident still in TWM livery
Do we know any more about 4234?
Are repairs nearly finished?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 25, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 17, 2013, 09:41:47 AM
1785
Refurbised
1785 now back out in service looking freshly repainted on the 302 today.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8866937991/
Quote from: John on May 26, 2013, 07:15:32 PM
Do we know any more about 4234?
Are repairs nearly finished?
Is that the one that was decapitated?
Was a new roof made do we know or a donor one found, because I can't think of a NXWM ALX 400 that it could have come from as none have been withdrawn for years
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 28, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Is that the one that was decapitated?
Was a new roof made do we know or a donor one found, because I can't think of a NXWM ALX 400 that it could have come from as none have been withdrawn for years
Yes it was 4234.
It was/is at Carlyle in West Brom getting repaired. This was a few months ago now, so it might be done or nearly repaired.
None have been withdrawn apart from 4336 and there was absolutely nothing left of that one!
Quote from: Winston on May 25, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
4542 is back in service repainted/retrimmed
On the 126 today and its already caked in mud!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 28, 2013, 05:56:13 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 25, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
4542 is back in service repainted/retrimmed
On the 126 today and its already caked in mud!
More than likely because its been raining.....
I was on a WN trident on the 126 yesterday, and all the grab poles had been repainted red. Made it look much better
Quote from: bususer12 on May 28, 2013, 10:45:14 PM
I was on a WN trident on the 126 yesterday, and all the grab poles had been repainted red. Made it look much better
Was it my favourite bus 4609 by any chance?
4609 was on the 79 yesterday when I saw it.
Quote from: trident4370 on May 29, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
4609 was on the 79 yesterday when I saw it.
I don't know of any other Tridents at WN that have had grab poles repainted.
Maybe it got swapped between routes sometime yesterday
Quote from: trident4370 on May 29, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
4609 was on the 79 yesterday when I saw it.
Yes i saw it on the 79 yesterday i forgot oops ;D It was on the 126 today though
4044 heading to Walsall with an engineer driving probably for a repaint as it's one of the final presidents still with the 451 TWM stripe branding.
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
4044 heading to Walsall with an engineer driving probably for a repaint as it's one of the final presidents still with the 451 TWM stripe branding.
It is/was the last President ever in the Toothpaste livery
Quote from: John on May 30, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
4044 heading to Walsall with an engineer driving probably for a repaint as it's one of the final presidents still with the 451 TWM stripe branding.
It is/was the last President ever in the Toothpaste livery
Hopefully once that one returns, WB will start getting their TWM liveried ALX400 through the paintshop
Blimey I only photographed it on Tuesday aswell. Will be sad to see the last one go :(
Quote from: John on May 30, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
4044 heading to Walsall with an engineer driving probably for a repaint as it's one of the final presidents still with the 451 TWM stripe branding.
It is/was the last President ever in the Toothpaste livery
I didn't realise it was the last one shame as they looked good in that particular livery and the alx400 definitely need some attention the Soho Road branded ones probably have the worst interiors I have seen from a NXWM bus their absolutely filthy with threadbare seats.
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: John on May 30, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 30, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
4044 heading to Walsall with an engineer driving probably for a repaint as it's one of the final presidents still with the 451 TWM stripe branding.
It is/was the last President ever in the Toothpaste livery
I didn't realise it was the last one shame as they looked good in that particular livery and the alx400 definitely need some attention the Soho Road branded ones probably have the worst interiors I have seen from a NXWM bus their absolutely filthy with threadbare seats.
so has 4054 been back in service yet? i'm off work at the minute so i don't know what has gone on lately. all i know is 4048 suffered serious RTA damage and is off the road.
Quote from: wbdriver on May 30, 2013, 07:25:28 PM
so has 4054 been back in service yet?
Tony saw the seats for 4054 in Miller Street on the 21st May.
Does anyone know how much toothpaste is left?
B7RLE, Omnilink, B7TL President, B7TL Gemini?, Enviro400, Omnicity.
More than I originally thought.
B7RLE - 1761 and 1786
All geminis are red now except last few at PB still in TWM
Enviro400 - 4718 - 4736 plus 4698
Omnilink - 1788 - 1843 (1790 1792 and 1833 in red)
All six omnicity dd's
All presidents in red or soon to be
Sadly all toothpaste liberators have gone now
Shame they never painted a trident in toothpaste (Julie maybe aha?)
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on May 30, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Does anyone know how much toothpaste is left?
B7RLE, Omnilink, B7TL President, B7TL Gemini?, Enviro400, Omnicity.
More than I originally thought.
I make it 63OmniLinks 1788-1789, 1791, 1793-1820, 1823, 1825, 1832, 1839-1843. (39)
Urbans 1761 and 1786 (2)
Enviro400s 4698, 4718-4736 (20)
OmniCity 4697 (1)
President 4054 (1)
No Geminis, or Omnicity bendi-buses left in Toothpaste. Also no B10Ls still in service either.
(I don't count the Perry Barr/ex-Perry Barr buses in incomplete Toothpaste livery without grey stripes, other people might)
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on May 30, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Does anyone know how much toothpaste is left?
B7RLE, Omnilink, B7TL President, B7TL Gemini?, Enviro400, Omnicity.
More than I originally thought.
B7RLE
1761/1786
Omnilink
1788/1789/1791/1793-1820/1823/1825/1832/1839-1843
Presidents
4044 & 4054 are the last in Toothpaste Livery all of AG's allocation now in NXWM Livery, 4054 is currently being refurbished I've heard
All Toothpaste Geminis now in NXWM Livery
Enviro 400's
4698/4718-4736
Omnicity
4697
(I'm like John not counting the ones without the grey stripes)
Hopefully this will help. Basically in this document it's shows a figures and all about the fleet that is in TWM livery and left to be repainted...
4054 back out Refurbished & Repainted out on the 5 today Looks Fantastic
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 09:59:05 AM
4054 back out Refurbished & Repainted out on the 5 today Looks Fantastic
Do you remember where and what time you saw it Rob. I might go looking for it :)
Quote from: John on June 03, 2013, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 09:59:05 AM
4054 back out Refurbished & Repainted out on the 5 today Looks Fantastic
Do you remember where and what time you saw it Rob. I might go looking for it :)
Seen it at Scott Arms at around 09:55 this morning ;)
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
Seen it at Scott Arms at around 09:55 this morning ;)
Thanks for the heads-up Rob. By luck, I was driving up Kings Road, and it was in front of me, as I wanted a pic of it at New Oscott, I only had to wait for it to go into Sutton and back ;D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8936342620/
Quote from: John on June 03, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 01:19:11 PM
Seen it at Scott Arms at around 09:55 this morning ;)
Thanks for the heads-up Rob. By luck, I was driving up Kings Road, and it was in front of me, as I wanted a pic of it at New Oscott, I only had to wait for it to go into Sutton and back ;D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8936342620/
No Worries John ;) Great Pic aswell
More buses being done include 1800; 4376; 4433; 4491; 4537; 4539.
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
More buses being done include 1800; 4376; 4433; 4491; 4537; 4539.
That will please somebody ;)
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
More buses being done include 1800; 4376; 4433; 4491; 4537; 4539.
4539 is the last one which used to have the green branding for the 79 to be done.
4537 was Another one needing attention so its good to know its being done.
4571 and 4590 are ones that desperatley need a refurb (4571's seats are theadbare) and 4590 is looking a bit scruffy on the exterior also.
I would like to see 4575-7 and 4579-83 to be repainted/refurbed and for 4575-84 to carry some new 126 branding
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 03, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
More buses being done include 1800; 4376; 4433; 4491; 4537; 4539.
That will please somebody ;)
Yep:) However 4590 is one which needs doing soon.
Not sure if its been reported in another topic but 808 seems to have been debranded from the 99 already...
Sorry if this may have been mentioned before, but 4321 is now refurbished and was gleaming in the sun yesterday on the 60.
Quote from: trident4370 on June 04, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Not sure if its been reported in another topic but 808 seems to have been debranded from the 99 already...
Yep, it was reported a couple of weeks ago. It now has a bigger front fleetname than the rest of the unbranded Enviro200s.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on June 04, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Sorry if this may have been mentioned before, but 4321 is now refurbished and was gleaming in the sun yesterday on the 60.
Thats news to me and i believe hasn't been reported by anbody else on the forum so thanks for the info :)
Quote from: uniquicity on June 04, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on June 04, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Not sure if its been reported in another topic but 808 seems to have been debranded from the 99 already...
Yep, it was reported a couple of weeks ago. It now has a bigger front fleetname than the rest of the unbranded Enviro200s.
ahh I didn't notice the front tbh I just saw it going past and saw where the old transfer had come off and thought well that's news to me!
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on June 04, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Sorry if this may have been mentioned before, but 4321 is now refurbished and was gleaming in the sun yesterday on the 60.
It (among many others) really needed a refurb, it had old branding showing and the interior was awful. Really glad it got a welcome to BC gift.
Yet again I say this why are 45- batch buses being done when there are far worse 41- and 42- batches unrefurbed. Are they to be sold cos at this rate it aint worth refurbing them!!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on June 04, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
Sorry if this may have been mentioned before, but 4321 is now refurbished and was gleaming in the sun yesterday on the 60.
Thats news to me and i believe hasn't been reported by anbody else on the forum so thanks for the info :)
Thought I hadn't seen it for a while ;)
Quote from: Peter123 on June 04, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Yet again I say this why are 45- batch buses being done when there are far worse 41- and 42- batches unrefurbed. Are they to be sold cos at this rate it aint worth refurbing them!!
Because other than the Spectra's, the 45-- Tridents are now WN's next oldest double deckers, many are still in TWM livery with equally threadbare seats. It may also be down to commitments NX made as part of the Wolverhampton network review
Quote from: Winston on June 04, 2013, 10:36:37 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on June 04, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Yet again I say this why are 45- batch buses being done when there are far worse 41- and 42- batches unrefurbed. Are they to be sold cos at this rate it aint worth refurbing them!!
Because other than the Spectra's, the 45-- Tridents are now WN's next oldest double deckers, many are still in TWM livery with equally threadbare seats. It may also be down to commitments NX made as part of the Wolverhampton network review
You find 4135 is WN's next oldest Tridents. And 4135 could do do with a repaint although the interior isn't bad
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 04, 2013, 10:36:37 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on June 04, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Yet again I say this why are 45- batch buses being done when there are far worse 41- and 42- batches unrefurbed. Are they to be sold cos at this rate it aint worth refurbing them!!
Because other than the Spectra's, the 45-- Tridents are now WN's next oldest double deckers, many are still in TWM livery with equally threadbare seats. It may also be down to commitments NX made as part of the Wolverhampton network review
You find 4135 is WN's next oldest Tridents. And 4135 could do do with a repaint although the interior isn't bad
I was on about on masse, 4135 had a refurb at WA when branded for the 51
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
4001 & 4002 arrived much earlier in 1998 than the production batch 4003-4022 which have the lighter blue moquette
Quote from: Winston on June 04, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
4001 & 4002 arrived much earlier in 1998 than the production batch 4003-4022 which have the lighter blue moquette
Was 4003-22 the first TWM buses to get the blue 'Twin peaks' patterned moquette
Sorry to be the stupid one here, but what does "moquette" mean?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
Was 4003-22 the first TWM buses to get the blue 'Twin peaks' patterned moquette
Yes I think so, along with 6001-6011, Solo's and Excels.
Moquette is the proper name for the seat coverings.
Quote from: John on June 04, 2013, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
Was 4003-22 the first TWM buses to get the blue 'Twin peaks' patterned moquette
Yes I think so, along with 6001-6011, Solo's and Excels.
Moquette is the proper name for the seat coverings.
Ah! I would've just said 'seats'. Thanks ;)
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
So has 4002 never had a seat refurb in all its years then? Just shows how the darker blue and orange spot moquette has lasted much better than the twin peaks which looks awful on most of the un-refurbed Tridents
Quote from: John on June 04, 2013, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
Was 4003-22 the first TWM buses to get the blue 'Twin peaks' patterned moquette
Yes I think so, along with 6001-6011, Solo's and Excels.
Moquette is the proper name for the seat coverings.
Yes i knew that but thanks for the info John ;)
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 04, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
So has 4002 never had a seat refurb in all its years then? Just shows how the darker blue and orange spot moquette has lasted much better than the twin peaks which looks awful on most of the un-refurbed Tridents
Well i think its 4310 or 4311 one of the pull down seats has the old blue/orange 'Metrobus' moquette.
Saw 4002 today and yes it still has the original moquette.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 11:07:19 PM
Yes i knew that but thanks for the info John ;)
I was answering Matts Question Nathan ;)
Quote from: John on June 04, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 11:07:19 PM
Yes i knew that but thanks for the info John ;)
I was answering Matts Question Nathan ;)
Ok John ;) Didn't realise Matt asked a question.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 04, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Spectra 4002 has old blue moquett from 1999 used on B6/B10L/Merc when new
So has 4002 never had a seat refurb in all its years then? Just shows how the darker blue and orange spot moquette has lasted much better than the twin peaks which looks awful on most of the un-refurbed Tridents
Probably not, just had odd seat cushions replaced on an as & when basis. The older dark blue moquette with red flecks does seem to wear much better, it took much longer to fade & masks any dirt.
I'm sure 4002 was new to Travel Dundee then joined the Twm fleet in 1999 when service 50 was fully optare spectra.
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 05, 2013, 11:41:02 AM
I'm sure 4002 was new to Travel Dundee then joined the Twm fleet in 1999 when service 50 was fully optare spectra.
Indeed it was:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/david_love/4349013043/
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 05, 2013, 11:41:02 AM
I'm sure 4002 was new to Travel Dundee then joined the Twm fleet in 1999 when service 50 was fully optare spectra.
Very correct indeed with 4001 and 4002 numbered 1 and 2 respectivley then the fleet numbers changed to 4001/2
a 41xx getting a second refurb is 4179. It was done complete with new engine 18 months ago, but the paintwork was wrecked by an ipod advert and it was vinyled over. It has gone to Walsall for a fresh repaint and getting seats retrimmed again at the same time.
Another 41xx being done more deservedly is another ex Ipod advert 4197
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
a 41xx getting a second refurb is 4179. It was done complete with new engine 18 months ago, but the paintwork was wrecked by and ipod advert and it was vinyled over. It has gone to Walsall for a fresh repaint and getting seats retrimmed again at the same time.
Another 41xx being done more deservedly is another ex Ipod advert 4197
What a complete waste. Why do the seats need redoing when there are buses around at West Brom that have never seen this sort of attention!!! Fair enough paintwork but seats as well
Quote from: Peter123 on June 05, 2013, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
a 41xx getting a second refurb is 4179. It was done complete with new engine 18 months ago, but the paintwork was wrecked by and ipod advert and it was vinyled over. It has gone to Walsall for a fresh repaint and getting seats retrimmed again at the same time.
Another 41xx being done more deservedly is another ex Ipod advert 4197
What a complete waste. Why do the seats need redoing when there are buses around at West Brom that have never seen this sort of attention!!! Fair enough paintwork but seats as well
I assume its now policy to retrim everything at repaint
4197 more deserved as tony says, soho road ALXs please nextIf its policy to retrim at repaint then fair enough, 4179s interior isnt too bad anyway but the paintwork got wrecked too quick, as for
Does anyone know if NXCs bendi buses going to be refurbished internally as they were repainted a while ago but never had seats done :/
Quote from: NXCOV21 on June 07, 2013, 03:40:07 PM
Does anyone know if NXCs bendi buses going to be refurbished internally as they were repainted a while ago but never had seats done :/
I will email to Travelscard about that!
And I remember 6005 been new refurbishes seats in October 2011 then till December to withdrawn and won't take new seats from 6005 put on 6012 can't do it because it's won't fitted up. 6005 is different shape seat modern and 6012 is more different than 6005 modern.
Not asking nastily, but do you suffer from dyslexia? It would make responding to your posts a little bit easier if I knew you have a problem writing stuff down.
That's just Jade/Daniel, or whatever he or she callers themselves these days. You get used to it after a while!
6013 - please don't email travelcare about why they haven't retrimmed the bendibus seats. It will be wasting your time and theirs.
Quote from: 6013 on June 07, 2013, 03:53:25 PM
I will email to Travelscard about that!
Who? Never heard of them and echoing Gareth's comment have absolutely nothing to do with National Express Coventry whoever they are/ if they exist
And of course they couldn't take the seats out of the o405 bendis and put them into the o530's as they are completely different buses!
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 07, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
Not asking nastily, but do you suffer from dyslexia? It would make responding to your posts a little bit easier if I knew you have a problem writing stuff down.
I was thinking it was more likely that English perhaps isn't their first language
Quote from: uniquicity on June 04, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on June 04, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Not sure if its been reported in another topic but 808 seems to have been debranded from the 99 already...
Yep, it was reported a couple of weeks ago. It now has a bigger front fleetname than the rest of the unbranded Enviro200s.
808 has now had the larger style front fleetname that was applied when it was de-branded removed and replaced by a standard sized one. Standards of presentation on newer buses definitely on the up.
4358 fresh from refurb and looking immaculate, being driven by an engineer along Harborne Rd this morning.
Quote from: Mike K on June 08, 2013, 11:41:49 AM
4358 fresh from refurb and looking immaculate, being driven by an engineer along Harborne Rd this morning.
Pretty sure Tony has a photo of it on the main site on the 957
Ok thanks, in that case I stand corrected, it looks so shiny I thought it was fresh from the paintshop. Tony's photo is from yesterday and it has no adverts so can't have been back long.
It's on the 22/23 now so must have been on its way to replace a failed hybrid.
Two more being done
BY - 1788
PB - 4502
Got a pic of 4321 looking good on the 900 yesterday
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
Got a pic of 4321 looking good on the 900 yesterday
I caught it back from Coventry!
Trident4370 has a good video of it which im sure he will post a link to
I wanted 4321 but got 4359 back from Cov
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2013, 09:01:36 AM
Two more being done
BY - 1788
PB - 4502
Are BY starting to refurb all of their Omnilinks to the NX livery and seating now or is this a one off? It will be nice to see them all gleaming and looking brand new but I would've thought there are other buses elsewhere far more in need of refurbishment than Omnilinks from 2007?
Quote from: JB93 on June 09, 2013, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2013, 09:01:36 AM
Two more being done
BY - 1788
PB - 4502
Are BY starting to refurb all of their Omnilinks to the NX livery and seating now or is this a one off? It will be nice to see them all gleaming and looking brand new but I would've thought there are other buses elsewhere far more in need of refurbishment than Omnilinks from 2007?
1788 is the second to have gone in during the last week, Tony reported 1800 last Sun/Mon
Quote from: JB93 on June 09, 2013, 02:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2013, 09:01:36 AM
Two more being done
BY - 1788
PB - 4502
Are BY starting to refurb all of their Omnilinks to the NX livery and seating now or is this a one off? It will be nice to see them all gleaming and looking brand new but I would've thought there are other buses elsewhere far more in need of refurbishment than Omnilinks from 2007?
1788 was definately in need of a repaint, see second photo down http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1788.html
as this is also Bordesley's oldest bus, not much worse they could send in
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2013, 11:32:27 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
Got a pic of 4321 looking good on the 900 yesterday
I caught it back from Coventry!
Trident4370 has a good video of it which im sure he will post a link to
It's not quite ready yet but the loud merc is up :P
Do you mean 1608?
WN 4577 is back out freshly repainted/refurbished
Saw freshly reprinted 1800 on the 17 earlier. It has had a full seat retrim, as enquired yesterday.
It also has the white fleet name above the door rather than the usual red, blue and grey one in the middle.
Quote from: Gareth on June 12, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
Saw freshly reprinted 1800 on the 17 earlier. It has had a full seat retrim, as enquired yesterday.
It also has the white fleet name above the door rather than the usual red, blue and grey one in the middle.
Cheers Gareth, that was me enquiring about a retrim
Quote from: Gareth on June 12, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
It also has the white fleet name above the door rather than the usual red, blue and grey one in the middle.
Starting to think with the E200s, the latest batch of B7RLEs (minus 2154) and now the Ex-Coventry Scanias that the white name above the door is becoming standard. I do hope so, looks much better there imo.
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2013, 11:13:20 PM
WN 4577 is back out freshly repainted/refurbished
Just went to post that. On the 59 today. Possible new 126 branding?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 13, 2013, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2013, 11:13:20 PM
WN 4577 is back out freshly repainted/refurbished
Just went to post that. On the 59 today. Possible new 126 branding?
I would think that if there was to be new 126 branding, different Tridents might be used to even out the mileage on the others (the same reason for the 44** 900 branded Tridents).
New branding would be nice, but its a shame that the last route with the coloured circle branding is disappearing
Quote from: John on June 13, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 13, 2013, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2013, 11:13:20 PM
WN 4577 is back out freshly repainted/refurbished
Just went to post that. On the 59 today. Possible new 126 branding?
I would think that if there was to be new 126 branding, different Tridents might be used to even out the mileage on the others (the same reason for the 44** 900 branded Tridents).
New branding would be nice, but its a shame that the last route with the coloured circle branding is disappearing
I like to see branding, but the problem is that it does restrict buses to certain routes, and if they are long distant routes, the miles start to quickly add up
Probably a daft suggestion, but its a pity they couldn't put some sort of electronic display on the buses which could then show multiple route brandings and then virtually any route could be branded.
Strangley enough i had the exact idea stu! :)
Am I the only one that wishes they'd put that tiny little bit more effort in when re-painting the Omnilinks and actually left the silver trim at the front silver rather than just plaster the entire thing with red paint?
Quote from: JackC on June 13, 2013, 10:42:57 PM
Am I the only one that wishes they'd put that tiny little bit more effort in when re-painting the Omnilinks and actually left the silver trim at the front silver rather than just plaster the entire thing with red paint?
I agree they look cheap and nasty
Remember when certain management, in its fit of petulance, decreed that some unwanted S C A N I A labels should all be scraped off the same silver panel... I often wondered who ended up doing it and how much it cost.
Did they think punters would be confused and imagine it was the name of a new operator?
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 14, 2013, 06:47:26 AM
Remember when certain management, in its fit of petulance, decreed that some unwanted S C A N I A labels should all be scraped off the same silver panel... I often wondered who ended up doing it and how much it cost.
Did they think punters would be confused and imagine it was the name of a new operator?
Or were they ashamed of showing they had bought cheap nasty buses made in Poland
LOL!
I doubt anyone other than the bus-savvy and those inside the industry would make the Polish connection; I doubt whether your average John or Jane Doe would even know Scania's Swedish, to be honest.
Quote from: Peter123 on June 14, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 14, 2013, 06:47:26 AM
Remember when certain management, in its fit of petulance, decreed that some unwanted S C A N I A labels should all be scraped off the same silver panel... I often wondered who ended up doing it and how much it cost.
Did they think punters would be confused and imagine it was the name of a new operator?
Or were they ashamed of showing they had bought cheap nasty buses made in Poland
Hahaha!!
Does anyone think management sit down and think; 'Well
that was a bad idea..'
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 14, 2013, 12:35:16 AM
Quote from: JackC on June 13, 2013, 10:42:57 PM
Am I the only one that wishes they'd put that tiny little bit more effort in when re-painting the Omnilinks and actually left the silver trim at the front silver rather than just plaster the entire thing with red paint?
I agree they look cheap and nasty
Yes, just look how good 1833 looks
Quote from: John on June 14, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 14, 2013, 12:35:16 AM
Quote from: JackC on June 13, 2013, 10:42:57 PM
Am I the only one that wishes they'd put that tiny little bit more effort in when re-painting the Omnilinks and actually left the silver trim at the front silver rather than just plaster the entire thing with red paint?
I agree they look cheap and nasty
Yes, just look how good 1833 looks
Looking at the older photos of 1833, did they just not finish off the Toothpaste with the silver stripes or what the blue supposed to not have them? I've always wondered that it looks unprofessional. I know it doesn't matter now but..
Quote from: The Rat on June 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Looking at the older photos of 1833, did they just not finish off the Toothpaste with the silver stripes or what the blue supposed to not have them? I've always wondered that it looks unprofessional. I know it doesn't matter now but..
A lot of Perry Barr OmniLinks did not have the grey stripes applied. I think this was because they were meant to gain 16 branding, but apart from 1823 and 1825, never did, and many of them were put on other routes
1821, 1822, 1824, 1826-1831, 1834-1839 are still like this. 1833 was also like that when it was in TWM livery
Quote from: John on June 14, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Looking at the older photos of 1833, did they just not finish off the Toothpaste with the silver stripes or what the blue supposed to not have them? I've always wondered that it looks unprofessional. I know it doesn't matter now but..
A lot of Perry Barr OmniLinks did not have the grey stripes applied. I think this was because they were meant to gain 16 branding, but apart from 1823 and 1825, never did, and many of them were put on other routes
1821, 1822, 1824, 1826-1831, 1834-1839 are still like this. 1833 was also like that when it was in TWM livery
Ahh, I see. Makes sense. But it seems
other companies would at least finish the job rather then just leaving it. Thats why I have the opinion of NX is very lazy in regards to that. Anything to save money methinks.
Yes, comparing 1833 with 1877 the former is far more sensibly executed. On 1877 even the silver detail around the headlights has turned red.
Now the lights really do look like p*ss-holes in the snow.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 14, 2013, 01:47:47 PM
...Now the lights really do look like p*ss-holes in the snow...
HAHA!!
Where did that come from?! But yes, the head light size leaves alot to be desired.
Haha.. p*ss holes in the snow!!
Was the OmniLink logo on 1833 masked over prior to painting or was it a new one stuck on.
Also can be said for repainted Tridents with door rubber being painted red and it gets cracked under use.
4234 was outside Carlyle on Tuesday with new roof attached, still quite a but of work to do though. 4044 now at Trailways, last President to be done
Quote from: Tony on June 15, 2013, 04:15:36 PM
4234 was outside Carlyle on Tuesday with new roof attached, still quite a but of work to do though.
Thanks Tony, I asked about that one last week.
4490 out today on 115 refurbished at last!
pic to follow
Quote from: John on June 15, 2013, 05:14:06 PM
4490 out today on 115 refurbished at last!
pic to follow
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9049359429/
Cant believe PB have refurbed near enough all their geminis in less than 18 months, isnt it 6 left or something to do?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 15, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
Cant believe PB have refurbed near enough all their geminis in less than 18 months, isnt it 6 left or something to do?
8 left.
4491, 4495, 4496, 4498, 4499, 4500, 4502 and 4515
It seems like Perry Barr are sending them in number order, so with 4490 back, you might find that 4491 has now gone for a refurb
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 15, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
Cant believe PB have refurbed near enough all their geminis in less than 18 months, isnt it 6 left or something to do?
8 left.
4491, 4495, 4496, 4498, 4499, 4500, 4502 and 4515
only 6 left untouched, 4491 & 4502 have both been reported as in the process of being refurb'd (by Tony with seats at Miller St)
Quote from: Winston on June 16, 2013, 03:58:06 PM
only 6 left untouched, 4491 & 4502 have both been reported as in the process of being refurb'd (by Tony with seats at Miller St)
Thanks Winston. Have not been keeping track of those :)
Another thing I have lost track off are the recent Wolverhampton Trident repaints. Can anyone enlighten me (Matt, Nathan), to the recent Trident repaints there.
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 16, 2013, 03:58:06 PM
only 6 left untouched, 4491 & 4502 have both been reported as in the process of being refurb'd (by Tony with seats at Miller St)
Thanks Winston. Have not been keeping track of those :)
Another thing I have lost track off are the recent Wolverhampton Trident repaints. Can anyone enlighten me (Matt, Nathan), to the recent Trident repaints there.
4537 & 4539 are currently in paint/refurb, 4577 is a very recent one and I think 4542
I have 4536/38/40-42/44/45/47/48/53/56/65/68/74/77/83-86/91/93/97-4605 & 4609 as done if that helps
I got a pic of 4577 on friday and 4542 couple of days before that
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 16, 2013, 05:49:42 PM
I got a pic of 4577 on friday and 4542 couple of days before that
Yes 4577 not long came back same with 4542/4. Caught 4577 the other day on the 59 and again today on the 126.
4542 has been back a bit now
If it continues in the same pattern 4543 will go in next
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 16, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
If it continues in the same pattern 4543 will go in next
Probably. I've got a feeling 4575/6/9-83 will be repainted with 4577 being done.
Also they should start the 459*'s
The 126 branded ones ought to be done especially so, i do agree the rest of the 459x's need to be done
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 16, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
The 126 branded ones ought to be done especially so, i do agree the rest of the 459x's need to be done
Agree with you there, starting to look really shabby now.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 16, 2013, 08:46:36 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 16, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
The 126 branded ones ought to be done especially so, i do agree the rest of the 459x's need to be done
Agree with you there, starting to look really shabby now.
Well as i suggested maybe the 126 is in line for new branding?
Quote from: Winston on June 16, 2013, 05:42:39 PM
4537 & 4539 are currently in paint/refurb, 4577 is a very recent one and I think 4542
I have 4536/38/40-42/44/45/4748/53/56/65/68/74/77/83-86/91/93/97-4605 & 4609 as done if that helps
Thanks again Winston Great help
Quote from: John on June 16, 2013, 10:44:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 16, 2013, 05:42:39 PM
4537 & 4539 are currently in paint/refurb, 4577 is a very recent one and I think 4542
I have 4536/38/40-42/44/45/4748/53/56/65/68/74/77/83-86/91/93/97-4605 & 4609 as done if that helps
Thanks again Winston Great help
No worries, I'm sure you picked it up, but there should be a slash between 47 & 48
4583 isn't done Winston.
4535/46/9-52/63/78 are also painted in NXWM livery but may not have had a refurb.
Quote from: uniquicity on June 16, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
4583 isn't done Winston.
4535/46/9-52/63/78 are also painted in NXWM livery but may not have had a refurb.
4563 has a refurbed interior.
Quote from: uniquicity on June 16, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
4583 isn't done Winston.
4535/46/9-52/63/78 are also painted in NXWM livery but may not have had a refurb.
Thanks Pete,
Yes its a 126 branded once, not sure where i go that from, hmmmmmm
I'm confident 4563 has had the dark blue interior retrim, I'm not sure on 4578 though as that was done back in late 2009 but is also the one that did the Beacon Radio promotion, so you'd think it would have been re-trimmed rather than having threadbare seats?
As for the others you quote I'm fairly sure these were very early NX repaints before retrims became standard
Just to confirm for you winston 4563 has got the newer dark blue moquette like 4541 etc s
And 4578 wasn't refurbed when it was repainted
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 16, 2013, 11:26:36 PM
Just to confirm for you winston 4563 has got the newer dark blue moquette like 4541 etc s
And 4578 wasn't refurbed when it was repainted
Ta for that,
Has 4546 still got its original seats as well?, as I've got ? against refurb for that one
Quote from: Winston on June 16, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 16, 2013, 11:26:36 PM
Just to confirm for you winston 4563 has got the newer dark blue moquette like 4541 etc s
And 4578 wasn't refurbed when it was repainted
Ta for that,
Has 4546 still got its original seats as well?, as I've got ? against refurb for that one
4535/46/49/50/51/52/78 all are in NX livery but weren't refurbed
Hello Tony
Ref 4044 at Trailways.
Do Trailways do complete repanel and repainting or just the preperation work with Walsall completing the repaint?
Quote from: Wolves256 on June 17, 2013, 09:17:39 AM
Hello Tony
Ref 4044 at Trailways.
Do Trailways do complete repanel and repainting or just the preperation work with Walsall completing the repaint?
It will come to Walsall for repaint
Thanks Tony
1761 now repainted and refurbished. And then there was only one toothpaste volvo left
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 17, 2013, 05:43:11 PM
1761 now repainted and refurbished. And then there was only one toothpaste volvo left
This was back out last week ashley.
Now WB have have finished their Presidents they have restarted the B7/ALX. 4291 has gone to Trailways
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2013, 08:40:51 AM
Now WB have have finished their Presidents they have restarted the B7/ALX. 4291 has gone to Trailways
If WB now work through refurbishing that batch of ALX400 as PB have done with its 03/53 reg Gemini, I think its fair to say that will vastly improve the quality of WB's double deck fleet & the Soho Rd corridor
Quote from: Winston on June 19, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
& the Soho Rd corridor
so they can just be etched badly again
Quote from: dgss1 on June 19, 2013, 07:10:04 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 19, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
& the Soho Rd corridor
so they can just be etched badly again
Why do people automatically presume window etching happens on the Soho Road? It tends to happen on quiet routes just as much, if not more because the idiots are on their own upstairs. On the Soho Road the top decks carry reasonable numbers of decent people all day
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on June 19, 2013, 07:10:04 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 19, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
& the Soho Rd corridor
so they can just be etched badly again
Why do people automatically presume window etching happens on the Soho Road? It tends to happen on quiet routes just as much, if not more because the idiots are on their own upstairs. On the Soho Road the top decks carry reasonable numbers of decent people all day
Including me the other day, prefer to ride Geminis upstairs, don't know why
Loads of AG double-decks also had window etchings, and none of them went near the Soho Road. ;)
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on June 19, 2013, 07:10:04 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 19, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
& the Soho Rd corridor
so they can just be etched badly again
Why do people automatically presume window etching happens on the Soho Road? It tends to happen on quiet routes just as much, if not more because the idiots are on their own upstairs. On the Soho Road the top decks carry reasonable numbers of decent people all day
Why I would say Daily Mail readers syndrome. ;)
Don't worry if i have misread this but what do you mean my daily mail readers syndrome?
Are 4539 and 4537 back from repaint/refurb?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 19, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Don't worry if i have misread this but what do you mean my daily mail readers syndrome?
A cheeky way meant in banter of describing what sounds like a very middle class suburban view point. :) .
Coventry buses are more safety than West Midlands buses! Coventry Buses has improve with reduce the smoking/Drug in upper Decker and Loud music. Few Coventry buses still have etching window/Vandalism. So I don't catch any buses in Birmingham because there are too dangerous chav people expect I can catch on AG route only.
Quote from: Stu on June 19, 2013, 07:41:17 PM
Loads of AG double-decks also had window etchings, and none of them went near the Soho Road. ;)
The 11A/C crosses the Soho Road
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 19, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: Stu on June 19, 2013, 07:41:17 PM
Loads of AG double-decks also had window etchings, and none of them went near the Soho Road. ;)
The 11A/C crosses the Soho Road
And very few of Acocks Green's current fleet have window etching
Every BC Trident has excessive window etchings. You should see the VCR's lol!!
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 19, 2013, 09:12:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 19, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Don't worry if i have misread this but what do you mean my daily mail readers syndrome?
A cheeky way meant in banter of describing what sounds like a very middle class suburban view point. :) .
Thanks :) I find it hard to understand banter.
Quote from: 6013 on June 19, 2013, 09:27:16 PM
Coventry buses are more safety than West Midlands buses! Coventry Buses has improve with reduce the smoking/Drug in upper Decker and Loud music. Few Coventry buses still have etching window/Vandalism. So I don't catch any buses in Birmingham because there are too dangerous chav people expect I can catch on AG route only.
Hmmm, Coventry, middle England, a bastion of safety and respectability. There's not an area of the West Midlands where anti social behaviour and vandalism aren't a problem, although some garages are far better at keeping buses tidy than others. But I don't believe for one minute that the likes of Bell Green and Wood End are chav free and anti social behaviour free.
In case of Bell Green or Wood End, always consult a doctor.
Window etching is one thing I found to be fairly widespread in the West Midlands compared to Dublin. Over here there are all kinds of problems on the buses (in general they affect a number of select routes but not always), junkies, smokers (both tobacco & stronger substances) and just plain scumbags. In terms of vandalism we get windows put in by rocks, interiors defaced by permanent markers but strangely window etching is rare even on "notorious" routes. Even when etching is found its usually confined to the few rear windows upstairs. Obviously the trend hasn't caught on here yet :o
A WN 45** trident has come back from repaint
Quote from: dgss1 on June 20, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
A WN 45** trident has come back from repaint
Well 4577 came back last week. If its just back from repaint then its 4537 or 4539.
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
a 41xx getting a second refurb is 4179. It was done complete with new engine 18 months ago, but the paintwork was wrecked by an ipod advert and it was vinyled over. It has gone to Walsall for a fresh repaint and getting seats retrimmed again at the same time.
Now finished
http://simonedwards.piwigo.com/picture?/18173/category/295-buses
Quote from: John on June 24, 2013, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2013, 09:33:42 PM
a 41xx getting a second refurb is 4179. It was done complete with new engine 18 months ago, but the paintwork was wrecked by an ipod advert and it was vinyled over. It has gone to Walsall for a fresh repaint and getting seats retrimmed again at the same time.
Now finished
http://simonedwards.piwigo.com/picture?/18173/category/295-buses
What happened to that N/S mirror arm? Looks rather bent. Better though. ;D
I get the feeling 4371 is in for repaint/refurb, I haven't seen it for weeks now.
Quote from: trident4370 on June 24, 2013, 06:02:27 PM
I get the feeling 4371 is in for repaint/refurb, I haven't seen it for weeks now.
What about 4140? I haven't seen it for yonks.
4218 & 4543 are the latest sets of seats to arrive for recovering
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2013, 06:14:20 PM
4218 & 4543 are the latest sets of seats to arrive for recovering
I was just going to ask about 4543.Thanks for the info tony. They can then work there way up the 455* in TWM livery
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2013, 06:14:20 PM
4218 & 4543 are the latest sets of seats to arrive for recovering
:) :) :) :)
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
You never know Paul, with the new Enviro400s about to start working from Birmingham Central, one could displace 4218 to Coventry to replace an O405N. Couldn't see it happening myself though
Quote from: John on June 24, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
You never know Paul, with the new Enviro400s about to start working from Birmingham Central, one could displace 4218 to Coventry to replace an O405N. Couldn't see it happening myself though
Doubt it if I'm honest. Most likely go back to its old stomping ground at Yardley Wood, in all honesty. I'd rather see 43hundreds at BC and YW gets it crap 41's back.
Quote from: The Rat on June 24, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Quote from: John on June 24, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
You never know Paul, with the new Enviro400s about to start working from Birmingham Central, one could displace 4218 to Coventry to replace an O405N. Couldn't see it happening myself though
Doubt it if I'm honest. Most likely go back to its old stomping ground at Yardley Wood, in all honesty. I'd rather see 43hundreds at BC and YW gets it crap 41's back.
To be fair the 65 x Y-reg Tridents at BC should be spread out a bit more evenly around other Trident garages
Quote from: Winston on June 24, 2013, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 24, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Quote from: John on June 24, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
You never know Paul, with the new Enviro400s about to start working from Birmingham Central, one could displace 4218 to Coventry to replace an O405N. Couldn't see it happening myself though
Doubt it if I'm honest. Most likely go back to its old stomping ground at Yardley Wood, in all honesty. I'd rather see 43hundreds at BC and YW gets it crap 41's back.
To be fair the 65 x Y-reg Tridents at BC should be spread out a bit more evenly around other Trident garages
That's the general census around everyone I've spoke to. Its stupid we have that volume of sheds, with other garages only having like 10. I don't think YW has any 41's left, do they? I still want the old BR 43's back, they were perfect in every way. Love the 43's.
Quote from: The Rat on June 24, 2013, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 24, 2013, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 24, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Quote from: John on June 24, 2013, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I don't suppose 4218 will ever see a return to Coventry? - would make the fleet numbers at CV look a bit better! (i.e. no gaps between 4203-24)
You never know Paul, with the new Enviro400s about to start working from Birmingham Central, one could displace 4218 to Coventry to replace an O405N. Couldn't see it happening myself though
Doubt it if I'm honest. Most likely go back to its old stomping ground at Yardley Wood, in all honesty. I'd rather see 43hundreds at BC and YW gets it crap 41's back.
To be fair the 65 x Y-reg Tridents at BC should be spread out a bit more evenly around other Trident garages
That's the general census around everyone I've spoke to. Its stupid we have that volume of sheds, with other garages only having like 10. I don't think YW has any 41's left, do they? I still want the old BR 43's back, they were perfect in every way. Love the 43's.
Nope, not one!
Incidentally YW already have 56 x 43-- Tridents before they potentially get anymore from BC as most expect, these could also do with getting spread out a bit more evenly. Otherwise in the not too distant future, you're suddenly going to have large numbers of old buses all in one garage that will all need replacing over a short period of time
I thought YW had one?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:02:52 PM
I thought YW had one?
Nope,
65 @ BC
21 @ CV
13 @ WA
1 @ WN
Total = 100
Just double checked Tony's fleetlist just in case
Quote from: Winston on June 24, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:02:52 PM
I thought YW had one?
Nope,
65 @ BC
21 @ CV
13 @ WA
1 @ WN
Total = 100
Just double checked Tony's fleetlist just in case
I'm sure one went there recently in the past few weeks?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 24, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:02:52 PM
I thought YW had one?
Nope,
65 @ BC
21 @ CV
13 @ WA
1 @ WN
Total = 100
Just double checked Tony's fleetlist just in case
I'm sure one went there recently in the past few weeks?
From where? Not that I've seen reported, unless I've missed it?
I agree with Winston. Haven't seen any reports on here of a Y-TOH Trident moving to YW
I cant remember who told me, it might have been trident4370 who said he had been on YW's only 41xx trident?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I cant remember who told me, it might have been trident4370 who said he had been on YW's only 41xx trident?
Maybe it was WN's only 41** trident? 4135
YW doesn't have any 'odd one out' buses as far as I know
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I cant remember who told me, it might have been trident4370 who said he had been on YW's only 41xx trident?
I think you're getting mixed up with 4310 which at the time was the only 51 trident ;) although I haven't been on it yet so maybe it was someone else who said it and you're confused!
Yeah must have been that then :(
YW's oddball is 4799?
Yes, 4799 the little bugger that had me running around like a headless chicken today and still not managing a ride >:(
Back on topic of refurbs/repaints I was wondering is there a reason why now all omnilink repaints seem to be having the fleetnames stuck above the door, the ex coventry ones are like that and 1800. Surely BY aren't intending to brand 1800 on it's own for a route?
Quote from: trident4370 on June 25, 2013, 12:06:14 AM
Back on topic of refurbs/repaints I was wondering is there a reason why now all omnilink repaints seem to be having the fleetnames stuck above the door, the ex coventry ones are like that and 1800. Surely BY aren't intending to brand 1800 on it's own for a route?
1788 is in for refurb as well or may already be back out now? The re-positioning of the fleetnames may just give greater flexibility for applying branding or even adverts?
I did mean to say apart from 4799
I think 4150 is next for refurbishment seen it heading through Perry Barr on its way to Walsall
Might be thinking of 4311? That's basically a 41! (Some early 53's are really bad. Not as bad as 4159)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 24, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I cant remember who told me, it might have been trident4370 who said he had been on YW's only 41xx trident?
Maybe it was WN's only 41** trident? 4135
YW doesn't have any 'odd one out' buses as far as I know
Can't be matt. Was working the 59 yesterday
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 25, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 24, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I cant remember who told me, it might have been trident4370 who said he had been on YW's only 41xx trident?
Maybe it was WN's only 41** trident? 4135
YW doesn't have any 'odd one out' buses as far as I know
No I meant he could've been talking about WN's 4135.
Can't be matt. Was working the 59 yesterday
It's not 4218, seats were labelled wrong, it is 4212
Quote from: Tony on June 25, 2013, 07:22:31 PM
It's not 4218, seats were labelled wrong, it is 4212
lol
Well thats the end of "Primelines" branding in Coventry
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
Glad I photographed 1786 in Walsall a week or so back then!
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
Bit of positive news! The refurbed 46xx are dead smooth, best bus in the fleet IMHO.
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
The refurbed 46xx are dead smooth, best bus in the fleet IMHO.
The one's with the new engines? Or the the refurb's that retain the original engines?
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
The refurbed 46xx are dead smooth, best bus in the fleet IMHO.
The one's with the new engines? Or the the refurb's that retain the original engines?
New engine , and gearbox by the feel of these things. It reminds me of how they were supposed to be when new, but the 'choppyness' of gear changes and overactive engine left something to be desired.
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
The refurbed 46xx are dead smooth, best bus in the fleet IMHO.
The one's with the new engines? Or the the refurb's that retain the original engines?
New engine , and gearbox by the feel of these things. It reminds me of how they were supposed to be when new, but the 'choppyness' of gear changes and overactive engine left something to be desired.
Which buses have been refurbed in such a way?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 27, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 01:46:55 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 27, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Two more for BC are 4150 & 4623, and the last eclipse 1786
The refurbed 46xx are dead smooth, best bus in the fleet IMHO.
The one's with the new engines? Or the the refurb's that retain the original engines?
New engine , and gearbox by the feel of these things. It reminds me of how they were supposed to be when new, but the 'choppyness' of gear changes and overactive engine left something to be desired.
Which buses have been refurbed in such a way?
Blimey, I think 4619? The AdBlu ones, really good. Fast pull away as well. They really have worked wonders with those vehicles.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 27, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
Which buses have been refurbed in such a way?
These 3 were done at Wolverhampton a few years ago so they may differ enginewise to the recent 46**'s
4166
4179
4186
Other 41** are
4148
4172
4176
4177
4178
Then those that I know off are
4586
4619
4633
4634
Just look for any Trident with the extra filler cap behind the front wheel, those ones have had replacement engines
Quote from: John on June 27, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 27, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
Which buses have been refurbed in such a way?
These 3 were done at Wolverhampton a few years ago so they may differ enginewise to the recent 46**'s
4166
4179
4186
Other 41** are
4148
4172
4176
4177
4178
Then those that I know off are
4586
4619
4633
4634
Just look for any Trident with the extra filler cap behind the front wheel, those ones have had replacement engines
John,
I've also got 4185 which is done:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4185.html
Then 4613 & 4621, which may have come from Tony or misreports?
The initial order was for 30 to be done (excl 4166, 4186 & 4586), but it seems the re-engine programme has been halted early
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
John,
I've also got 4185 which is done:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4185.html
Then 4163 & 4621, which may have come from Tony or misreports?
The initial order was for 30 to be done (excl 4166, 4186 & 4586), but it seems the re-engine programme has been halted early
Thanks for 4185 Winston. :)
4163 and 4621 have not been re-engined
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8891672570/
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4621.html
Quote from: John on June 27, 2013, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
John,
I've also got 4185 which is done:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4185.html
Then 4163 & 4621, which may have come from Tony or misreports?
The initial order was for 30 to be done (excl 4166, 4186 & 4586), but it seems the re-engine programme has been halted early
Thanks for 4185 Winston. :)
4163 and 4621 have not been re-engined
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8891672570/
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4621.html
Sorry typo, should have said 4613.
I'm sure Tony? reported that one was going for refurb that was already in NX livery, 4621 would fit that criteria?
Looking at your photo of 4621 it was an early NX repaint, no doubt without any internal treatment
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5819464942/in/set-72157626280162496
Forget 4613, it wasn't done at 27.5.13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlcwSHTq-g
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
1629 is another, back at Pensnett repainted & retrimmed and being fitted with LED destinations
Any chance that 1645 can have a repaint please, pretty please???
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
1629 is another, back at Pensnett repainted & retrimmed and being fitted with LED destinations
Any chance that 1645 can have a repaint please, pretty please???
It needs it, itself and 1646 look very strange with TWM livery combined with LEDs, although the upside is you can spot them from a distance
4433 is back at BC looking very smart in NXWM livery, looks better then 4358 actually. Don't know if its been reported or what yet.
Quote from: The Rat on June 28, 2013, 11:18:58 AM
4433 is back at BC looking very smart in NXWM livery, looks better then 4358 actually. Don't know if its been reported or what yet.
Tony reported it going for refurb, but it has not been reported as been completed :D
4538 back from walsall
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on June 29, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
4538 back from walsall
4538 is already done ;)
Probably meant 4539 which is back from repaint/refurb along with 4537
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 27, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
1629 is another, back at Pensnett repainted & retrimmed and being fitted with LED destinations
Any chance that 1645 can have a repaint please, pretty please???
It needs it, itself and 1646 look very strange with TWM livery combined with LEDs, although the upside is you can spot them from a distance
Mercs dont need repainting they need scrapping and replacing to be honest
Quote from: Peter123 on June 30, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 27, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2012, 08:16:50 PM
1629 is another, back at Pensnett repainted & retrimmed and being fitted with LED destinations
Any chance that 1645 can have a repaint please, pretty please???
It needs it, itself and 1646 look very strange with TWM livery combined with LEDs, although the upside is you can spot them from a distance
Mercs dont need repainting they need scrapping and replacing to be honest
The none refurb'd 15--/early 16-- series need to be withdrawn, but its not realistic to expect 140 Mercs to be withdrawn & scrapped in one hit, the T/V-reg second series Mercs are only 14 years old, so may a few more years in them yet
4500 heading to Walsall garage this evening, next in line for a repaint and refurb?
Hopefully
1786 refurbed/reprainted new NXWM logos on 10/10A
Immaculate 4179 out on the 97s yesterday
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4179.html
1786 back out on 10/10A today looks fantastic and the NXWM Logo is above the door just thought I'd mention it
I wasn't seeing things this week; 4502 resplendent on Sutton services along the main road yesterday and today.
4496 and 4515 still flying the low-floor flag at least.
The repaint of 1786 means we are down to 300 vehicles not in NX livery.
Made up of 1480, 39 Mercs, 51 Scania single deck, 2153, 6 Darts, 4044, 127 Trident / ALX400, 41 B7TL / ALX400, 7 Geminis, 6 Scania deckers and 20 Enviro400.
Quote from: uniquicity on July 05, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
The repaint of 1786 means we are down to 300 vehicles not in NX livery.
Made up of 1480, 39 Mercs, 51 Scania single deck, 2153, 6 Darts, 4044, 127 Trident / ALX400, 41 B7TL / ALX400, 7 Geminis, 6 Scania deckers and 20 Enviro400.
Cheers Pete,
That's come down quite a bit of late
Quote from: uniquicity on July 05, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
The repaint of 1786 means we are down to 300 vehicles not in NX livery.
Made up of 1480, 39 Mercs, 51 Scania single deck, 2153, 6 Darts, 4044, 127 Trident / ALX400, 41 B7TL / ALX400, 7 Geminis, 6 Scania deckers and 20 Enviro400.
Of those about 10 are currently being done
At. Walsall now all b7rle ate done can now start on tridents.
Correct me if Im wrong, but theres actually been some withdrawals of vehicles already in NX livery?
Wouldnt they been able to work out what was being kept long term & just repaint those vehicles?
They knew Metrobuses were not being kept, so those were not repainted, but who actually decides which particular vehicles to repaint?
The B10B's were a waste of time, surely with being step entrance, they knew they didnt have long left, and still painted them over mercs.
I preferred the B10B's in TWM livery personally even if they could have spent that money painting mercs a bit earlier
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
Correct me if Im wrong, but theres actually been some withdrawals of vehicles already in NX livery?
Wouldnt they been able to work out what was being kept long term & just repaint those vehicles?
They knew Metrobuses were not being kept, so those were not repainted, but who actually decides which particular vehicles to repaint?
There have been, I know a number of the old Volvo B10 midi-buses were re-painted, only to end up 18 months later in Miller Street.
The reasoning was I suspect partially down to presentation, partially down to the "Network Reviews" and a desire to have vehicles in new livery operating once the reviews had taken effect. WMPTE however were experts at painting vehicles that were life-expired, in some cases painting vehicles in blue and cream in error which were due to go to a one way trip to Barnsley!!!
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on July 06, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
Correct me if Im wrong, but theres actually been some withdrawals of vehicles already in NX livery?
Wouldnt they been able to work out what was being kept long term & just repaint those vehicles?
They knew Metrobuses were not being kept, so those were not repainted, but who actually decides which particular vehicles to repaint?
There have been, I know a number of the old Volvo B10 midi-buses were re-painted, only to end up 18 months later in Miller Street.
The reasoning was I suspect partially down to presentation, partially down to the "Network Reviews" and a desire to have vehicles in new livery operating once the reviews had taken effect. WMPTE however were experts at painting vehicles that were life-expired, in some cases painting vehicles in blue and cream in error which were due to go to a one way trip to Barnsley!!!
Talking of vehicles painting in error, NX Dundee have repainted/re-trimmed B10L 7138 in error which was actually due to be withdrawn
How can you accidently repaint a bus that is about to be withdrawn?? ;)
Tony, Do you know if 4543 is in for repaint as i haven't seen it in a while. Thanks
Nathan
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 06, 2013, 10:46:17 PM
How can you accidently repaint a bus that is about to be withdrawn?? ;)
Tony, Do you know if 4543 is in for repaint as i haven't seen it in a while. Thanks
Nathan
More than likely a breakdown of communication between the various departments at Dundee
4543 is in for refurb
Thanks for that Winston :) They can start then on 455* onwards now. All of 4535-53 are now in NX livery
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 29, 2013, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on June 29, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
4538 back from walsall
4538 is already done ;)
Probably meant 4539 which is back from repaint/refurb along with 4537
4539 out on the 59 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9222258673/
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
Quote from: John on July 07, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
4537 & 4539 will probably both be off normal service for a short time from July 20
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: John on July 07, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
4537 & 4539 will probably both be off normal service for a short time from July 20
For s special contract or something?
Quote from: Winston on July 07, 2013, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: John on July 07, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
4537 & 4539 will probably both be off normal service for a short time from July 20
For s special contract or something?
v festival?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 07, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 07, 2013, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: John on July 07, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
4537 & 4539 will probably both be off normal service for a short time from July 20
For s special contract or something?
v festival?
V isn't until the weekend 17/18th of August
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: John on July 07, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
4539 has been back since last week john along with 4537. 4543 is next one to be done
Yes I know, but no one had a picture of it though, so I put a link to it
4537 & 4539 will probably both be off normal service for a short time from July 20
Wonder why that is? Are there anymore NX buses going to be off normal service from 20th July
Something to do with the Summer Rota or school holidays etc.
Quote from: The Rat on July 07, 2013, 06:30:11 PM
Something to do with the Summer Rota or school holidays etc.
But why specifically 4539 and 4537?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 07, 2013, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: The Rat on July 07, 2013, 06:30:11 PM
Something to do with the Summer Rota or school holidays etc.
But why specifically 4539 and 4537?
I cant answer that, but the date Tony gave is too close to the Summer Rota start date to be a coincidence.
4044 looking new in westbrom today, not in service.
1789
1793
Refurbed awaiting repaint
Toothpaste livery gone from omnilinks by christmas? :)
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 08, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
Toothpaste livery gone from omnilinks by christmas? :)
51 left to do including these. 24 weeks left this year. Is around 2 per week feasible?
Quote from: uniquicity on July 08, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 08, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
Toothpaste livery gone from omnilinks by christmas? :)
51 left to do including these. 24 weeks left this year. Is around 2 per week feasible?
It's certainly not unrealistic; they shouldn't need any major re-panelling, only half the amount of seat to retrim / bodywork to repaint over a double decker
Quote from: Winston on July 08, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on July 08, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 08, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
Toothpaste livery gone from omnilinks by christmas? :)
51 left to do including these. 24 weeks left this year. Is around 2 per week feasible?
It's certainly not unrealistic; they shouldn't need any major empanelling, only half the amount of seat to retrim / bodywork to repaint over a double decker
PB only have 7 so that is easy enough. BY have 44 to do.
Quote from: uniquicity on July 08, 2013, 11:29:12 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 08, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on July 08, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 08, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
Toothpaste livery gone from omnilinks by christmas? :)
51 left to do including these. 24 weeks left this year. Is around 2 per week feasible?
It's certainly not unrealistic; they shouldn't need any major empanelling, only half the amount of seat to retrim / bodywork to repaint over a double decker
PB only have 7 so that is easy enough. BY have 44 to do.
I reckon its more likely that the majority could get treated prior to the end of 2013, but a small quantity may see in 2014, it largely depends of whether any other routes are to be upgraded with refurbished buses
Quote from: Winston on July 06, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on July 06, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
Correct me if Im wrong, but theres actually been some withdrawals of vehicles already in NX livery?
Wouldnt they been able to work out what was being kept long term & just repaint those vehicles?
They knew Metrobuses were not being kept, so those were not repainted, but who actually decides which particular vehicles to repaint?
There have been, I know a number of the old Volvo B10 midi-buses were re-painted, only to end up 18 months later in Miller Street.
The reasoning was I suspect partially down to presentation, partially down to the "Network Reviews" and a desire to have vehicles in new livery operating once the reviews had taken effect. WMPTE however were experts at painting vehicles that were life-expired, in some cases painting vehicles in blue and cream in error which were due to go to a one way trip to Barnsley!!!
Talking of vehicles painting in error, NX Dundee have repainted/re-trimmed B10L 7138 in error which was actually due to be withdrawn
Well luckily 7138 is now in service until October which is when all B10Ls will be gone from the streets of Dundee (if everything goes to plan...)
4212 now repainted seen heading towards cov today!
1788 on the 8C today repainted and retrimmed. Haven't seen that one mentioned yet.
Quote from: Gareth on July 10, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
1788 on the 8C today repainted and retrimmed. Haven't seen that one mentioned yet.
You need to go right up this topic to June 9th when I reported it going in. The paint shop had finished it by 27th June when I photographed it in Walsall garage but was receiving mechanical attention
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1788.html
4229 now being done at YW, 4376 now in service on the 18
Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
4229 now being done at YW, 4376 now in service on the 18
You meaning 4229 at WB? I've check 4229 currently on WB on fleetlist on here site.
Quote from: 6013 on July 15, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
4229 now being done at YW, 4376 now in service on the 18
You meaning 4229 at WB? I've check 4229 currently on WB on fleetlist on here site.
Yes Tony will do as YW garage sometimes undertake refurbs or repair major accident damage
About time 4229 was treated to a refurb.
Yardley Wood will be doing the refurb work for West Brom, then it will go to Walsall for repaint, and then back in service at West Brom
Quote from: John on July 15, 2013, 07:40:32 PM
About time 4229 was treated to a refurb.
Yardley Wood will be doing the refurb work for West Brom, then it will go to Walsall for repaint, and then back in service at West Brom
Correct
Interesting...
Walsall garage job for repaint only
Yarlwood garage job for refurb work for any garage with nxwm?
West Brom garage job for accident & Repair?
Miller Street garage job for refurb work?
AG & YW engineering job for CV garage MOTS?
Quote from: 6013 on July 15, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
Interesting...
Walsall garage job for repaint only
Yarlwood garage job for refurb work for any garage with nxwm?
West Brom garage job for accident & Repair?
Miller Street garage job for refurb work?
AG & YW engineering job for CV garage MOTS?
No
There is no such garage as 'Yarlwood', you mean 'Yardley Wood'?
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2013, 08:39:08 PM
There is no such garage as 'Yarlwood', you mean 'Yardley Wood'?
Damn you beat me to it. Every post he writes it as Yarlwood, even if you are foreign you can still see two separate words?
Anyway, your missing the fact that all garages do their own V.I and minor repairs, 6013.
Unless 'Yarlwood' is some local 'slang' I haven't come across yet. ::)
I've heard many a young clearly-not-a-bus-traveller-or-enthusiast refer to Acocks Green as simply 'AG' (eg. "yo we is chillin in AG ennit", or however it is these people speak nowadays!)
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2013, 08:54:43 PM
Unless 'Yarlwood' is some local 'slang' I haven't come across yet. ::)
I've heard many a young clearly-not-a-bus-traveller-or-enthusiast refer to Acocks Green as simply 'AG' (eg. "yo we is chillin in AG ennit", or however it is these people speak nowadays!)
I only use AG in my posts just as the garage code. Is it a bit like calling Wolverhampton 'Wolvo'
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2013, 08:54:43 PM
Unless 'Yarlwood' is some local 'slang' I haven't come across yet. ::)
I've heard many a young clearly-not-a-bus-traveller-or-enthusiast refer to Acocks Green as simply 'AG' (eg. "yo we is chillin in AG ennit", or however it is these people speak nowadays!)
Not correctly either way. It makes me wonder, in years to come, there will be no English left. The language and the people. You have to be blind deaf and dumb to not see it happening.
It annoying me, these 'chavs', talking about buses like they're enthusiast's, and yet if they don't like the driver the windows go through.
Bit confused what you mean about Chavs talking about buses like they are enthusiasts? I don't think you are going to get many chavs talking about buses are you?
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2013, 08:54:43 PM
Unless 'Yarlwood' is some local 'slang' I haven't come across
Does nobody remember the veteran comedian and impressionist Mike Yarlwood?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 15, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2013, 08:54:43 PM
Unless 'Yarlwood' is some local 'slang' I haven't come across yet. ::)
I've heard many a young clearly-not-a-bus-traveller-or-enthusiast refer to Acocks Green as simply 'AG' (eg. "yo we is chillin in AG ennit", or however it is these people speak nowadays!)
I only use AG in my posts just as the garage code. Is it a bit like calling Wolverhampton 'Wolvo'
you mean Vulgarhampton lol
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 15, 2013, 09:04:09 PM
Bit confused what you mean about Chavs talking about buses like they are enthusiasts? I don't think you are going to get many chavs talking about buses are you?
No, you do, hear them at the back talking about how they don't need a bus licence and just a car licence to drive a bus - talking like they know it all. I had one tried to spark up a conversation with me a while back saying how, when he got a job on the buses, he would never be late and be getting the back end out at every corner. I told him good luck with that and changed seats.
Most chavs i encounter only talk about buses as in "where does that go" and "how do i get there" and half the time they use old numbers like 451 and 404
Most Chavs on the buses I see seam to think it is a safe place to smoke weed and give the endless kids they have bred a free ride as they don't seam to be able to communicate with them as they are to busy social networking or discussing with their mate where the next financing for the next P*** up on chemically enhanced extra strong cider/larger is comming from! 'so when do you draw next?'
Also the minute Chavs get on the bus they seam to think the're on the Jerremy Kyle show or summat as they spurt off their whole life's story (whilst ignoring their kids punching each other) down their mobile...for example a trip on the 529 from Wolves (sorry) to Walsall by evesdropping on one chav's conversation the other day I managed to gain the following information:
1. Where her 'dealer' lives
2. Who took her to the Post Office on Tuesday
2. who she 'shagged' on Wednesday
3. who she 'shagged' on Thursday, Friday & Saturday
4. Chilled on Sunday
5. Her best mates Dan, Crissy, Shaz & Big Lenny are all getting charged on Monster original
6. 'That Lucy' is a F****n B****h & gonna get slapped good an proper!
All in all seamed the type of girl that was going places!
MEGA LOL :D
But still putting the younger generation to total shame
Did you get her number?
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 16, 2013, 10:46:02 AM
Did you get her number?
Why would I need her number? I wouldn't be seen dead with the likes of a scum belly like that besides I don't do drugs, I don't want kids (or anybody else's kids) & I definitely don't wanna risk catching something nasty ;D
LOL - I was joking 4006!
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 16, 2013, 12:09:24 PM
LOL - I was joking 4006!
lol so was I...I quite fancied her actually....Damn forgot to ask for her number :(
Oh my 4006!!! So funny! Big Lenny!! Hahahaahahahaha
1652 and 1672 are still in the original 1999 livery. Is this a record for length of time before repaint? Travel express excluded of course.
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 16, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
Oh my 4006!!! So funny! Big Lenny!! Hahahaahahahaha
Form an orderly queue..... :-*
Quote from: Eric Shaw on July 16, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
1652 and 1672 are still in the original 1999 livery. Is this a record for length of time before repaint? Travel express excluded of course.
+1645
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 16, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Eric Shaw on July 16, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
1652 and 1672 are still in the original 1999 livery. Is this a record for length of time before repaint? Travel express excluded of course.
+1645
And 1646?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 16, 2013, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 16, 2013, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Eric Shaw on July 16, 2013, 02:13:26 PM
1652 and 1672 are still in the original 1999 livery. Is this a record for length of time before repaint? Travel express excluded of course.
+1645
And 1646?
No, 1646 has been repainted previously back in its Lea Hall days
No matt as 1646 has been repainted at some point as it has post 1999 low floor livery wheras 1672/45 etc have never been repainted since delivery
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 16, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
No matt as 1646 has been repainted at some point as it has post 1999 low floor livery wheras 1672/45 etc have never been repainted since delivery
I don't get it, what is the 'low floor livery'?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 16, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 16, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
No matt as 1646 has been repainted at some point as it has post 1999 low floor livery wheras 1672/45 etc have never been repainted since delivery
I don't get it, what is the 'low floor livery'?
1st low Floor livery is like on 1672
2nd low floor livery is like on 1646, with more blue and less white. These have been repainted out if the 1st low floor livery before the NXWM livery was created
Quote from: John on July 16, 2013, 05:27:27 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 16, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 16, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
No matt as 1646 has been repainted at some point as it has post 1999 low floor livery wheras 1672/45 etc have never been repainted since delivery
[size=78%]I don't get it, what is the 'low floor livery'?[/size]
1st low Floor livery is like on 1672
2nd low floor livery is like on 1646, with more blue and less white. These have been repainted out if the 1st low floor livery before the NXWM livery was created
Yep. There were 4 low floor liveries.1 - 45 degree stripes and blue half way up (original)2 - 60 degree stripes and blue half way up (not many had this, 1680 was one)3 - 60 degree stripes and blue to the windows4 - Toothpaste.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 16, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 16, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
No matt as 1646 has been repainted at some point as it has post 1999 low floor livery wheras 1672/45 etc have never been repainted since delivery
I don't get it, what is the 'low floor livery'?
Well up to 1999 the dtripe was positioned further back (Middle i think). i find it hard to describe. Just look at a photo of 1672 then 1646 and then you can tell the difference :)
Wow I have never noticed that before!!
WN made a total dogs dinner of these two livery types over the years when they painted our Optare Excel L1070s, big advantage was simple identification :D
4371&4516 now in Walsall
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 18, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
4371&4516 now in Walsall
4516 has been done?
Yes, 4516 is in new livery, per the photo collection. 4515 was still in the old scheme last time I saw it.
Its probably just a typo and meant to read 4515
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 18, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
Its probably just a typo and meant to read 4515
Yes Typo for 4515, problem with sending message on a phone with small keyboard
Is 4496 the only one left in old livery now?
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:28:49 AM
Is 4496 the only one left in old livery now?
4495, 4498, 4499 and 4500 as well, if they have not already gone for refurb
4500 is done, don't think it is in service yet though
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2013, 08:11:08 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 18, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
Its probably just a typo and meant to read 4515
Yes Typo for 4515, problem with sending message on a phone with small keyboard
Sitting in a soggy seat on a late train?! ::)
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
4500 is done, don't think it is in service yet though
Saw it pass the Towers last night (Walsall road), looked nice and shiney so I guess it was on its way back to PB
Is 4543 back from repaint/refurb?
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:28:49 AM
Is 4496 the only one left in old livery now?
4495, 4498, 4499 and 4500 as well, if they have not already gone for refurb
4498 is reported as done on WMBus Yahoo group yesterday
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:28:49 AM
Is 4496 the only one left in old livery now?
4495, 4498, 4499 and 4500 as well, if they have not already gone for refurb
4498 is reported as done on WMBus Yahoo group yesterday
Thanks Winston. Another 2 off my list!!
4576 repainted/refurbed on the 126 today (Didn't even though this was going for repaint/refurb)
Another 126 branded trident repainted now. That leaves 4575/9/80/1/2/3 branded for the 126
WB Gemini done
4141 and 4155 rear lights have been replaced
Quote from: Sayeed_M on July 27, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
4141 and 4155 rear lights have been replaced
which lights do they have?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 27, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
which lights do they have?
Like other ALX 400 Tridents apart 4125-4159
Quote from: Sayeed_M on July 27, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 27, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
which lights do they have?
Like other ALX 400 Tridents apart 4125-4159
The Walsall 41** Tridents and some Central ones have different rear lights to the rest of the Tridents. Instead of the Brake/indicator/reverse lights from top to bottom like the later Tridents and the Volvo ALX400s, they have 2 brake lights with the indicators in the middle, similar to this Arriva ALX400 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254546537/), plus the reversing lights at the bottom. I have noticed it before, never knew the reason
1797 now refurbished & repainted
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 06:12:15 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on July 27, 2013, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 27, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
which lights do they have?
Like other ALX 400 Tridents apart 4125-4159
The Walsall 41** Tridents and some Central ones have different rear lights to the rest of the Tridents. Instead of the Brake/indicator/reverse lights from top to bottom like the later Tridents and the Volvo ALX400s, they have 2 brake lights with the indicators in the middle, similar to this Arriva ALX400 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8254546537/), plus the reversing lights at the bottom. I have noticed it before, never knew the reason
Just older style mate. The easiest way to describe it is the new ones are LED and the old ones use normal 24v bulbs.
4197 at PE looking very smart
WN 4543 back from repaint/refurb in service on the 256/7 today. matt has a picture which he will upload to flickr at some point
4499 and 4734 are now in for refurb
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
4499 and 4734 are now in for refurb
So they are starting to repaint/refurb the WA toothpaste Enviros? Will they start to repaint 4125-38 batch that haven't been done so far
Also 4607 and 4608 from WN
Quote from: BN on July 29, 2013, 08:59:26 PM
Also 4607 and 4608 from WN
Finally! Wonderd when they would lose the Vodafone Freebees Overall adverts. They were applied sometime either July or August. Will 4606 be done aswell? They are getting through WN's tridents quickly now aren't they. The last few that were done were
4537/9, 4576/7,4543
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
WN 4543 back from repaint/refurb in service on the 256/7 today. matt has a picture which he will upload to flickr at some point
Came back 2 weeks ago mate, it has been in for MOT prep.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
4499 and 4734 are now in for refurb
So they are starting to repaint/refurb the WA toothpaste Enviros? Will they start to repaint 4125-38 batch that haven't been done so far
See Simon's comments in the 'ask Simon' topic, he said yes, but these 5 take priority at Walsall
Quote from: BN on July 29, 2013, 09:08:45 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 03:40:12 PM
WN 4543 back from repaint/refurb in service on the 256/7 today. matt has a picture which he will upload to flickr at some point
Came back 2 weeks ago mate, it has been in for MOT prep.
Thanks. Really i should rephrase it as seen 'back in service' ;) Are anymore of the 126 branded ones planning to go in for repaint? Seems the 126 branding is slowley being phased out with 4576 and 4577 recently back.
All of 4535-53 are all in NXWM livery now.
Still 31 WN tridents (4535-4609 batch) still in TWM livery
That is 4554/5/7/8/9/60/1/2/4/6/7/9/70/1/2/3/5/9/80/1/2/3/7/8/9/90/2/4/5/6/4606. (From my current knowledge
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
4499 and 4734 are now in for refurb
So they are starting to repaint/refurb the WA toothpaste Enviros? Will they start to repaint 4125-38 batch that haven't been done so far
See Simon's comments in the 'ask Simon' topic, he said yes, but these 5 take priority at Walsall
Thanks Tony ;) Will look there now. Just thought they would start to repaint the earlier tridents now the B7RLE's are finished
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 09:27:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
4499 and 4734 are now in for refurb
So they are starting to repaint/refurb the WA toothpaste Enviros? Will they start to repaint 4125-38 batch that haven't been done so far
See Simon's comments in the 'ask Simon' topic, he said yes, but these 5 take priority at Walsall
Thanks Tony ;) Will look there now. Just thought they would start to repaint the earlier tridents now the B7RLE's are finished
The 5 ex PB Enviros need sorting out. The interiors are far worse than any of Walsall's own 400s, but they work the same services including the new 936 which needs to attract new passengers so should be attractive. They are also less reliable, I don't know if 4734 actually managed to get on the road before going in for refurb and as mentioned on another thread 4735 was on the back of a tow truck this evening
Ive spotted and been on the 5 toothpaste Enviros at WA, got a photo of 4734 on the 935, they arent in great condition. Most of the WA tridents hasve had recent interior attention anyway, 4127 and 4137 have had most of their seats redone in their original style moquette
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
Ive spotted and been on the 5 toothpaste Enviros at WA, got a photo of 4734 on the 935, they arent in great condition. Most of the WA tridents hasve had recent interior attention anyway, 4127 and 4137 have had most of their seats redone in their original style moquette
Yes noticed on a lot of vehicles that the seat covers have been replaced but still in the old style Twin peaks moquette. Watched my video of 4736 on the 89 and noticed that the seats seemed a bit worn down.
I've also wondered if the E400's on the 50 At YW will get some attention at some point as the seats seem in a similar condition
Quote from: BN on July 29, 2013, 08:59:26 PM
Also 4607 and 4608 from WN
Explains why I haven't seen either in ages
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 29, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 29, 2013, 08:59:26 PM
Also 4607 and 4608 from WN
Explains why I haven't seen either in ages
Saw it sometime early last weekvin service
No i think BN meant that Nathan forgot to put those two on the yet to be painted list
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 10:04:27 PM
No i think BN meant that Nathan forgot to put those two on the yet to be painted list
Nope, they are in for refurb
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 09:55:02 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
Ive spotted and been on the 5 toothpaste Enviros at WA, got a photo of 4734 on the 935, they arent in great condition. Most of the WA tridents hasve had recent interior attention anyway, 4127 and 4137 have had most of their seats redone in their original style moquette
Yes noticed on a lot of vehicles that the seat covers have been replaced but still in the old style Twin peaks moquette. Watched my video of 4736 on the 89 and noticed that the seats seemed a bit worn down.
I've also wondered if the E400's on the 50 At YW will get some attention at some point as the seats seem in a similar condition
Theyre absolutely fine. The enviros on the 50 will not have had the pounding that the sutton lines buses will have had on the express way. instead they will just have dawdled along the 50 and sat in traffic most of the time. The 50 is on a very slow timetable whereas the PB ones will have been absolutely thrashed. I went on a YW enviro on the 50 a couple of saturdays back when it was really hot and very impressed by the condition of the seats upstairs and lots of opening windows and film on windows meaning the bus wasnt too hot. The 50 doesnt seem to have the problems it used to and to be honest at the moment anyway the buses on the 50 are mostly empty
Empty buses on the 50? Must be joking. The buses are in better nick than the sutton lines ones, less vandalism, seats arent too bad and the route has little trouble these days if any, i feel safer on there than i do on some WN routes
Ok sorry matt read it wrong
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 10:16:11 PM
Empty buses on the 50? Must be joking. The buses are in better nick than the sutton lines ones, less vandalism, seats arent too bad and the route has little trouble these days if any, i feel safer on there than i do on some WN routes
Ok sorry matt read it wrong
Not joking-went on it last monday and most buses with less than 10 people on...
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 10:04:27 PM
No i think BN meant that Nathan forgot to put those two on the yet to be painted list
No i missed them off my list because i read that they were in for refurb :)
, slacking at the moment with NXWM so apoligies
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 10:35:17 PM
, slacking at the moment with NXWM so apoligies
No thats ok Ash :) I even have moments sometimes
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 29, 2013, 10:35:17 PM
, slacking at the moment with NXWM so apoligies
No thats ok Ash :) I even have moments sometimes
You have quite a lot of 'moments' Nath ;D
Only joking of course
Thanks. Really i should rephrase it as seen 'back in service' Are anymore of the 126 branded ones planning to go in for repaint? Seems the 126 branding is slowley being phased out with 4576 and 4577 recently back.
All of 4535-53 are all in NXWM livery now.
Still 31 WN tridents (4535-4609 batch) still in TWM livery
That is 4554/5/7/8/9/60/1/2/4/6/7/9/70/1/2/3/5/9/80/1/2/3/7/8/9/90/2/4/5/6/4606. (From my current knowledge
Some of the early NXWM repaints with the connector bars look in far worse condition than the TWM livery vehicles plus they have not had the interior refurbs
Refurbished 4554 on the 255 today
Quote from: Roy on July 30, 2013, 09:25:12 AM
Refurbished 4554 on the 255 today
Thanks Roy - I had a feeling it was in for refurb as I hadn't seen it in quite a long time
Quote from: Roy on July 30, 2013, 09:25:12 AM
Refurbished 4554 on the 255 today
Yes had a feeling that was being done as i haven't seen it in weeks.
Unfortunately, 4554 did not last long on the 255 before breaking down. It failed to get back to Wolverhampton to operate the 1220 service and was replaced by Merc 1650.
Quote from: Roy on July 30, 2013, 03:06:15 PM
Unfortunately, 4554 did not last long on the 255 before breaking down. It failed to get back to Wolverhampton to operate the 1220 service and was replaced by Merc 1650.
Oh so thats why i saw 1650 on the 255 at Merry Hill.
Saw 4606 today on the 126 today. I wonder if this will be given a repaint/refurb after 4607/8 as its the only one left at WN with the Vodafone Freebees overall advert.
1789 and 4446 both done.
Nice to see the new NXWM logo applied to BC TWM liveried vehicles. 46's mainly.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 02, 2013, 12:29:30 AM
Nice to see the new NXWM logo applied to BC TWM liveried vehicles. 46's mainly.
It's long overdue for the TWM brand to be eliminated for the companies vehicles
Quote from: Winston on August 02, 2013, 09:34:05 AM
It's long overdue for the TWM brand to be eliminated for the companies vehicles
Yes it is, but it will be a shame to see it go for good
Will the PB Ominicitys get repainted at some point?
Quote from: NathanJC on August 02, 2013, 09:51:58 AM
Will the PB Ominicitys get repainted at some point?
Well they will be eventually but there's no plan for them to be repainted at the moment. There are other buses in need of repaints much more.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 02, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on August 02, 2013, 09:51:58 AM
Will the PB Ominicitys get repainted at some point?
Well they will be eventually but there's no plan for them to be repainted at the moment. There are other buses in need of repaints much more.
good ;D ;D
4194 & 1794 now being done
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 02, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Well they will be eventually but there's no plan for them to be repainted at the moment. There are other buses in need of repaints much more.
I actually disagree with that because the OmniCitys look incomplete with no logos and grey stripes on the livery. Yes the bodywork is in better nick, but they do need to be completed, with with repaints or at least putting logos on them. Pensnett have had buses that are 18 months newer repainted that were already in NXWM livery. OmniLinks the same age are starting to get repainted, so why not the OmniCitys as well.
4515 has been done, out in service today.
Quote from: John on August 02, 2013, 06:53:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 02, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Well they will be eventually but there's no plan for them to be repainted at the moment. There are other buses in need of repaints much more.
I actually disagree with that because the OmniCitys look incomplete with no logos and grey stripes on the livery. Yes the bodywork is in better nick, but they do need to be completed, with with repaints or at least putting logos on them. Pensnett have had buses that are 18 months newer repainted that were already in NXWM livery. OmniLinks the same age are starting to get repainted, so why not the OmniCitys as well.
I like the ominicitys in the NX livery, I couldnt image them in red & white nor 4697 :(
That doesn't make sense Nathan ??? The Omnicitys are in TWM livery anyway
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
That doesn't make sense Nathan ??? The Omnicitys are in TWM livery anyway
You mean 'toothpaste', the 'last' of the TWM liveries.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
That doesn't make sense Nathan ??? The Omnicitys are in TWM livery anyway
I didnt word that sentence very well ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Stu on August 03, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 06:34:43 PM
That doesn't make sense Nathan ??? The Omnicitys are in TWM livery anyway
You mean 'toothpaste', the 'last' of the TWM liveries.
Didn't think they were in Toothpaste livery like say earlier E400's
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 08:47:49 PM
Didn't think they were in Toothpaste livery like say earlier E400's
I call it incomplete toothpaste livery, as it is in the same base livery, the Omnicitys and some Perry Barr and Bordesley OmniLinks have not had the silver stripes applied to the blue stripe. If you took the grey stripes of a toothpaste Enviro, the livery would be exactly the same
Only the one of the Omnicitys is in toothpaste isn't it? Thought the rest were in TWM livery
The omnicities are as John says above in an unfinished toothpaste livery. By the time they entered service in Feb/March 2008, the livery was obsolete and the silver stripes were not added.
Quote from: Kevin on August 05, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Only the one of the Omnicitys is in toothpaste isn't it? Thought the rest were in TWM livery
Yes, the older one, 4697 is in proper Toothpaste livery. The rest as both I and Gareth have said are incomplete Toothpaste livery
Quote from: Gareth on August 05, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
The omnicities are as John says above in an unfinished toothpaste livery. By the time they entered service in Feb/March 2008, the livery was obsolete and the silver stripes were not added.
Yeah I just looked at their pages on the main site.... even caught one today and didn't pay attention. Probably because it's unfinished it made it look more like the TWM livery to me
Quote from: John on August 05, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 05, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Only the one of the Omnicitys is in toothpaste isn't it? Thought the rest were in TWM livery
Yes, the older one, 4697 is in proper Toothpaste livery. The rest as both I an Gareth have said are incomplete Toothpaste livery
Yes thats the livery i was thinking of John :) Thanks :)
4734 now repainted/refurbised
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/9486393481/in/photostream/
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 07:44:03 PM
4734 now repainted/refurbised
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/9486393481/in/photostream/
Looks nice :) Shame the toothpaste livery will be no more at WA.
Walsall should be starting on tridents
4307 4308 4309 4329 4331 4332
Haven't been touch since new in 2002
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 09:47:57 PM
Walsall should be starting on tridents
4307 4308 4309 4329 4331 4332
Haven't been touch since new in 2002
I assume NX want all the Enviros at WA in NX colours now the 934/935 & 936 are being branded.
No doubt the Tridents you mention will be next
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 09:47:57 PM
Walsall should be starting on tridents
4307 4308 4309 4329 4331 4332
Haven't been touch since new in 2002
plus 4305 & 4306 :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on August 11, 2013, 09:52:01 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2013, 09:47:57 PM
Walsall should be starting on tridents
4307 4308 4309 4329 4331 4332
Haven't been touch since new in 2002
plus 4305 & 4306 :)
4305 & 4306 have been refurbished since new for the 51 along with 4125-4141
Also batch 4125-4137 need repaint/refurbishment looking tatty with faded Walsall road branding still visable. Last repaint was September 2006.
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 12, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
Also batch 4125-4137 need repaint/refurbishment looking tatty with faded Walsall road branding still visable. Last repaint was September 2006.
I thought 4125-37 would have been done first (I think 4128 and 4136 need to be redone)
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 12, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
Also batch 4125-4137 need repaint/refurbishment looking tatty with faded Walsall road branding still visable. Last repaint was September 2006.
4135 at PN has the Walsall Road branding clearly visible
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 12, 2013, 06:46:33 AM
Also batch 4125-4137 need repaint/refurbishment looking tatty with faded Walsall road branding still visable. Last repaint was September 2006.
I believe 4129 will have repaint after repair complete.
I caught 4126 today on the 997 slightly off topic
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I caught 4126 today on the 997 slightly off topic
Why post it in this thread then?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I caught 4126 today on the 997 slightly off topic
Why post it in this thread then?
Because it's relevant to the thread (the buses being discussed)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 12, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I caught 4126 today on the 997 slightly off topic
Why post it in this thread then?
Because it's relevant to the thread (the buses being discussed)
The Unusual Workings thread is the most relevent place for it
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 12, 2013, 04:02:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I caught 4126 today on the 997 slightly off topic
Why post it in this thread then?
Because it's relevant to the thread (the buses being discussed)
The Unusual Workings thread is the most relevent place for it
Nothing wrong with it being posted here though
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Yes. On a 934 running board.
Others in for refurbishment are 4496; 1791; and especially for you 4609, currently being done at West Bromwich
Plus 4608 and 4607 being done from WN.
Quote from: Tony on August 12, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Yes. On a 934 running board.
Others in for refurbishment are 4496; 1791; and especially for you 4609, currently being done at West Bromwich
That just leaves 4487 & 4495 to be done to complete the 30 x Gemini @ PB
Quote from: Winston on August 12, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 12, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Yes. On a 934 running board.
Others in for refurbishment are 4496; 1791; and especially for you 4609, currently being done at West Bromwich
That just leaves 4487 & 4495 to be done to complete the 30 x Gemini @ PB
I doubt they'll bother with 4487
Ex Cov omnilink 1872 returned into wm colours... Still has NXC garage posters inside.... How lazy
Quote from: Tony on August 12, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Yes. On a 934 running board.
Others in for refurbishment are 4496; 1791; and especially for you 4609, currently being done at West Bromwich
4609 in for refurb, only saw it a couple of weeks ago and it seemed in very good condition.
However i rode on 4197 back from refurb, have to say i couldn't see where it had been refurbed. Apart from a new coat of paint and seat covers, the interior looked very tatty & dirty and around the front window upstairs, you can still see where they have put filler!
Quote from: Tony on August 12, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Anyway back on Topic! Is 4734 out in service today?
Yes. On a 934 running board.
Others in for refurbishment are 4496; 1791; and especially for you 4609, currently being done at West Bromwich
Why is 4609 being done? Was only repainted/refurbed in October! 4609 was in service a couple of days ago. 4609 is usually a fast bus but was struggling in the heat the other day
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
Was it in NXWM livery (4609) or TWM livery with Vodaphone advert (4606)?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
Was it in NXWM livery (4609) or TWM livery with Vodaphone advert (4606)?
4606 was on the 11 today, see Nathans pic
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9496487630/
4609 has been refurbed already
Quote from: mranon on August 12, 2013, 11:09:02 PM
4609 has been refurbed already
I already stated that earlier. The seats on 4609 and 4585 seem to be more faded than on other refurbs though
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
Was it in NXWM livery (4609) or TWM livery with Vodaphone advert (4606)?
NXWM.
So it was 4609 then. What time did you see it? It seems a little odd if 4609 would be redone. Tony even took a photo just after repaint
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
So it was 4609 then. What time did you see it? It seems a little odd if 4609 would be redone. Tony even took a photo just after repaint
The way I read Tony's post, is that the 4609 was referring to you & he's missed the fleetnumber of whatever he thinks might be of interest to you from his post.....
'and especially for you 4609', ???? currently being done at West Bromwich
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
So it was 4609 then. What time did you see it? It seems a little odd if 4609 would be redone. Tony even took a photo just after repaint
1545 255E ex Merry Hill
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 13, 2013, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
So it was 4609 then. What time did you see it? It seems a little odd if 4609 would be redone. Tony even took a photo just after repaint
1545 255E ex Merry Hill
I thought for a second you meant 1545 (Pensnett Merc) was on a 255E today lol
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
4609 definetly not away from service. On the 12:35 256 from Wolverhampton today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
4609 definetly not away from service. On the 12:35 256 from Wolverhampton today
Yes board at Miller Street now corrected, it is 4608 that is at West Bromwich
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 01:45:11 PM
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 12, 2013, 07:31:47 PM
I could have swore 4609 was on the 255 unless it was 4606
4609 definetly not away from service. On the 12:35 256 from Wolverhampton today
Yes board at Miller Street now corrected, it is 4608 that is at West Bromwich
Thanks Tony:) It did seem a little odd as 4609 was only done back in October
Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
4229 now being done at YW,
4229 is still out in service was on the 74 today in TWM livery
If you want to know WN refurbs.........just ask.
I send them.
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:09:25 PM
If you want to know WN refurbs.........just ask.
I send them.
Now i know who to ask ;) Thanks BN :) Do you know which tridents are next up for refurb/repaint?
Quote from: John on August 13, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
4229 now being done at YW,
4229 is still out in service was on the 74 today in TWM livery
Must double check that one then, that was one I saw in the garage, not off the boards at MS. I have got to go yo YW on Thursday to get their V Fest buses so will double check what is in their refurb bay
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Can I ask, why is 4567 going before the 126-branded ones?
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Thanks :) Wasn't even aware 4567 had gone for paint! Saw 4606 parked up at the front of the garage this lunchtime. Any idea why? Awaiting to go to Walsall Paintshop.
Are there any plans to replace the TWM logos with the white NXWM ones like BC have applied to their tridents?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Can I ask, why is 4567 going before the 126-branded ones?
Could ask the same question about all the other tridents. 4567 was in need of repaint/refurb and was looking a bit tired. Is 4569 in for repaint as i haven't seen it for weeks?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Can I ask, why is 4567 going before the 126-branded ones?
Could ask the same question about all the other tridents. 4567 was in need of repaint/refurb and was looking a bit tired. Is 4569 in for repaint as i haven't seen it for weeks?
No I saw that last night on the 126.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:21:02 PM
4606 is next as its Vodafone wrapped. That will replace 4567 when it comes back.
Then my eye is on 126 branded vehicles
Thanks :) Wasn't even aware 4567 had gone for paint! Saw 4606 parked up at the front of the garage this lunchtime. Any idea why? Awaiting to go to Walsall Paintshop.
Are there any plans to replace the TWM logos with the white NXWM ones like BC have applied to their tridents?
Not as far as I know.
3 repaints in from WN at all times so 4608, 4607 and 4567 in. When 4567 comes back it gets swapped for 4606. Then just keep replacing 1 at a time.
Thanks For that Matt :) And thanks for the info BN;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Thanks For that Matt :) And thanks for the info BN;)
Second thoughts, think it was Sunday I saw it not yesterday. But as BN said the 3 in are 4607,08 and 4567
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Thanks For that Matt :) And thanks for the info BN;)
Second thoughts, think it was Sunday I saw it not yesterday. But as BN said the 3 in are 4607,08 and 4567
Any idea if 4567 will be back soon? Haven't seen it for a while so must have been gone abit
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Thanks For that Matt :) And thanks for the info BN;)
Second thoughts, think it was Sunday I saw it not yesterday. But as BN said the 3 in are 4607,08 and 4567
Any idea if 4567 will be back soon? Haven't seen it for a while so must have been gone abit
BN said that 4606 will replace 4567 implying that 4567 should be the next one back
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Calm down, I was only trying to help.
4567 will be back when it's finished
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Calm down, I was only trying to help.
4567 will be back when it's finished
You sure about that Matt, have you seen 4197. If that is a finished refurbishment, i am stunned. To me it just looked like a paint job and new seat covers. :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Calm down, I was only trying to help.
4567 will be back when it's finished
You sure about that Matt, have you seen 4197. If that is a finished refurbishment, i am stunned. To me it just looked like a paint job and new seat covers. :)
That's what a refurb is in NXWM's eyes ;)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Calm down, I was only trying to help.
4567 will be back when it's finished
You sure about that Matt, have you seen 4197. If that is a finished refurbishment, i am stunned. To me it just looked like a paint job and new seat covers. :)
Although we call them refurb's that is generally all they amount too, a light internal refurbishment i.e. retrimmed
So why was 4609 given an extensive refurbishment? Poles repainted and brand new seats fitted
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
So why was 4609 given an extensive refurbishment? Poles repainted and brand new seats fitted
Wasn't it refurbed after being damaged? Perhaps due to its damage, it was refurbed by someone else, who did a more comprehensive job
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
So why was 4609 given an extensive refurbishment? Poles repainted and brand new seats fitted
Wasn't it refurbed after being damaged? Perhaps due to its damage, it was refurbed by someone else, who did a more comprehensive job
That level of internal work is few & far between
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
So why was 4609 given an extensive refurbishment? Poles repainted and brand new seats fitted
Was about to say Nathan that yesterday i travelled on the 49 in Birmingham and it was a President. It had obviously been repainted and the inside was beautifully clean and tidy. Thats what i call a refurbishment.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
So why was 4609 given an extensive refurbishment? Poles repainted and brand new seats fitted
Was about to say Nathan that yesterday i travelled on the 49 in Birmingham and it was a President. It had obviously been repainted and the inside was beautifully clean and tidy. Thats what i call a refurbishment.
The Presidents were far more extensively refurbished to bring them up to DDA spec, the work was done at ADL Harlow
Maybe 4609 was just a one off with the painted handrails.
NXWMs definition of refurb amounts to very little tbh, they still come back with graffiti and etching most of the time yet the seats and paintjob are new.
The B6LE's, B10L's and Presidents were proper refurbishments which have definately improved their appearance the past few years. I do have to say some Presidents could do with a floor clean, the AG ones look especially good inside and out still
Just remembered 4609 was repainted/Refurbed with painted handrails due to RTA damage.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Just remembered 4609 was repainted/Refurbed with painted handrails due to RTA damage.
So I was right ;D
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 14, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Just remembered 4609 was repainted/Refurbed with painted handrails due to RTA damage.
So I was right ;D
You were indeed ;) Only because i told you ;D
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 14, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
Just remembered 4609 was repainted/Refurbed with painted handrails due to RTA damage.
So I was right ;D
You were indeed ;) Only because i told you ;D
I meant I was right that it got painted handrails due to its damage :)
Don't worry i was onlyjoking matt ;)
4734 is finished and back on the 936
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 14, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
4734 is finished and back on the 936
Posted by Lynx1103 on Sunday along with a photo :)
trident answer your personal messages
4366 now in for refurb
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:45:10 PM
Yes i know Matt! I am not stupid you know! Just Wondering as 4606 was parked up in the garage so i was wondering if 4567 will be back within the next few days?
Calm down, I was only trying to help.
4567 will be back when it's finished
You sure about that Matt, have you seen 4197. If that is a finished refurbishment, i am stunned. To me it just looked like a paint job and new seat covers. :)
That's what a refurb is in NXWM's eyes ;)
Not always, PB Geminis are looking rather immaculate and appear to have new windows and seat backs as well as the seat covers retrimmed.
Aye, 4499 just released, looks for all the world like a brand new bus.
Same's true of the other recent PB Gem output.
What's the idea of fitting rubber wheel arch trims to buses which never originally had them, and removing them off buses which had them fitted as new?
Its one distinguishing factor between a Transbus and Dennis.
Just delivered the first two V buses to Walsall, 4733 is the next WA Enviro to be done, but also being done is PB 4730, third bus in the garage refurbishment bay is 4194
Whoa, a PB toothpaste, this isn't welcome news....
Quote from: Tony on August 15, 2013, 03:01:13 PM
but also being done is PB 4730,
:) :) Nice to see the Perry Barr Enviro400s been started.
Also talking about Perry Barr, I wonder if 4234 is nearly ready to rejoin the rest of its mates
Horrible to see the spread of the red death onto PB's toothpaste survivors. It's too much to think that even the sensitively liveried 4698 will go the same cheesy way.
I'd rather the Scania Omnis survived in their cut-price toothpaste until their transfer/ sale/ whatever, than suffer such an indignity.
Id like to see what a dd OmniCity looks like in red, as for 4718 - 4732, id personally like to keep the toothpaste, it stands out, the scutton lines buses "the stripey ones" as some might say
Quote from: The Real 4778 on August 16, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
Horrible to see the spread of the red death onto PB's toothpaste survivors. It's too much to think that even the sensitively liveried 4698 will go the same cheesy way.
I'd rather the Scania Omnis survived in their cut-price toothpaste until their transfer/ sale/ whatever, than suffer such an indignity.
It's a nice livery, yes, but the buses themselves are in a bit of a state, I'd rather seem them in new livery than left looking as scruffy as they are.
Both 4150 & 4623 look Great looking forward to seeing them back out
I always thought the 451 branding looked smart still after 5 years.
They could of just took the 4 and 1 off and leave the branding in for a bit longer.
Not sure if I have mentioned 4292 is at Trailways before
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2013, 09:58:07 PM
Not sure if I have mentioned 4292 is at Trailways before
I don't think so, I think you mentioned WN 4607? was at Trailways last.
4291 seems to have been away for refurb for a long time
1791 now back at BY. I think 1817 is the next from there
4371 is also back in service, looked very smart on monday
Quote from: The Real 4778 on August 16, 2013, 04:17:08 PM
Horrible to see the spread of the red death onto PB's toothpaste survivors. It's too much to think that even the sensitively liveried 4698 will go the same cheesy way.
I'd rather the Scania Omnis survived in their cut-price toothpaste until their transfer/ sale/ whatever, than suffer such an indignity.
I hope 4698 or the Ominicitys dont get repainted
Has 4567 came back yet? Maybe Driver03 or BN can confirm?
4131 OIR 4133 OR 41?? has been re-painted was out on the 6 today
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
4131 OIR 4133 OR 41?? has been re-painted was out on the 6 today
Either 4129 is back? Sure you didn't just see 4138 which was repainted last year
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
4131 OIR 4133 OR 41?? has been re-painted was out on the 6 today
No more Walsall Tridents have been done
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
4131 OIR 4133 OR 41?? has been re-painted was out on the 6 today
No more Walsall Tridents have been done
He probably just saw 4138 which is in modified (Brighter) shade of red
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
4131 OIR 4133 OR 41?? has been re-painted was out on the 6 today
No more Walsall Tridents have been done
He probably just saw 4138 which is in modified (Brighter) shade of red
Yes Nathan that's probably the bus I seen
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Is 4776 going to a bus rally or something else?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Is 4776 going to a bus rally or something else?
No, it's a private hire! This means someone has hired it for a private trip. It is actually going to an event to raise money for Gunner Lee Rigby who was killed in Greenwich
Oh ok. Thanks for the info Tony :)
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Is 4776 going to a bus rally or something else?
No, it's a private hire! This means someone has hired it for a private trip. It is actually going to an event to raise money for Gunner Lee Rigby who was killed in Greenwich
A very worthy cause then. Fair play to you for being involved.
Quote from: Mike K on August 21, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Is 4776 going to a bus rally or something else?
No, it's a private hire! This means someone has hired it for a private trip. It is actually going to an event to raise money for Gunner Lee Rigby who was killed in Greenwich
A very worthy cause then. Fair play to you for being involved.
I am driving it unpaid. Two reasons I volunteered, One, it is a good cause, Two I get a free few hours in Oldham!
Quote from: Mike K on August 21, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Is 4776 going to a bus rally or something else?
No, it's a private hire! This means someone has hired it for a private trip. It is actually going to an event to raise money for Gunner Lee Rigby who was killed in Greenwich
A very worthy cause then. Fair play to you for being involved.
Totally agree here a very worthy cause and fair play for giving up time to drive them there unpaid many wouldnt do it and this kind of thing deserves people's utmost respect
Nice to see a trio of 43xx Tridents in the paintshop, first for a while. Another two omnilinks? Is it still worth betting that BY could wipe out toothpaste livery by the turn of the year, got some socks bet on it haha :D
Shame to see 4730 in the Paintshop, looks like the start of the end for PBs stripey Enviros
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 22, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
Nice to see a trio of 43xx Tridents in the paintshop, first for a while. Another two omnilinks? Is it still worth betting that BY could wipe out toothpaste livery by the turn of the year, got some socks bet on it haha :D
There appears to actually be 4, It looks like 4366 is one of the ones I didn't identify personally yesterday as well
BCs Vodafone mega-ad trio were definatly in need of a spruce up
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 23, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
BCs Vodafone mega-ad trio were definatly in need of a spruce up
I certiantly agree with that Ashley. One of Coventry's is in as well. Only 4300, 4301, and one (I think) is still at Yardley Wood. Did someone say the Wolverhampton ones are in for refurb also?
Quote from: John on August 23, 2013, 03:37:15 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 23, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
BCs Vodafone mega-ad trio were definatly in need of a spruce up
I certiantly agree with that Ashley. One of Coventry's is in as well. Only 4300, 4301, and one (I think) is still at Yardley Wood. Did someone say the Wolverhampton ones are in for refurb also?
4301 now in
Quote from: John on August 23, 2013, 03:37:15 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 23, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
BCs Vodafone mega-ad trio were definatly in need of a spruce up
I certiantly agree with that Ashley. One of Coventry's is in as well. Only 4300, 4301, and one (I think) is still at Yardley Wood. Did someone say the Wolverhampton ones are in for refurb also?
Yes Vodafone wrap 4607 and 4608 are in for refurb. 4606 also in Vodaphone Vynyls will go for paint soon
4292 was also a Vodafone wrap and thats being refurbed, only two left when 4606 goes in are 4294 and 4382
Another is 4361, now at Trailways being done
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
When a private hire with NXWM takes place, what happens regarding tachographs?
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 26, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
When a private hire with NXWM takes place, what happens regarding tachographs?
4776 has a digital tachograph fitted, so I just put my driver's card into that, and then download it via the usual software
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 26, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
When a private hire with NXWM takes place, what happens regarding tachographs?
4776 has a digital tachograph fitted, so I just put my driver's card into that, and then download it via the usual software
Cool, never knew they were fitted with digital tachographs
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 28, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 26, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
When a private hire with NXWM takes place, what happens regarding tachographs?
4776 has a digital tachograph fitted, so I just put my driver's card into that, and then download it via the usual software
Cool, never knew they were fitted with digital tachographs
There are a few digital tachographs around the company, as well as 4776, Walsall have 1787, Yardley Wood have 2, I think it is 4738 & 4739, One of Perry Barr's leather seated Scanias has one and all the driver trainer ex Gas buses & two coaches have them.
At Walsall 244, 4127 & 4128 still have old style tachographs, Perry Barr 4515 & 4516 are also fitted which is why PB kept those two in the middle of the batch. 3225 has a manual tacho, I suspect most garages actually have one or two fitted
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2013, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 28, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on August 26, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 23, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
4219 and 4220 were running today so presumably 4221 is the Coventry one?
err yes, I posted this about 15 messages up
I had to visit Walsall again today, I am driving 4776 to Oldham on Saturday on a private hire, Around the paintshop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
When a private hire with NXWM takes place, what happens regarding tachographs?
4776 has a digital tachograph fitted, so I just put my driver's card into that, and then download it via the usual software
Cool, never knew they were fitted with digital tachographs
There are a few digital tachographs around the company, as well as 4776, Walsall have 1787, Yardley Wood have 2, I think it is 4738 & 4739, One of Perry Barr's leather seated Scanias has one and all the driver trainer ex Gas buses & two coaches have them.
At Walsall 244, 4127 & 4128 still have old style tachographs, Perry Barr 4515 & 4516 are also fitted which is why PB kept those two in the middle of the batch. 3225 has a manual tacho, I suspect most garages actually have one or two fitted
BC have a few from what I remember.
One is 46, a couple of 44's iirc.
4165 fully refurbed and debranded
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on August 29, 2013, 01:48:28 AM
4165 fully refurbed and debranded
You need to get a pic, I don't get to see much of BC now..
4607 back from refurb, replaced by 4606 last Vodafone bus.
Quote from: BN on August 30, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
4607 back from refurb, replaced by 4606 last Vodafone bus.
4606 was on the 256 last night. Last time I'll ever see a WN Trident in Vodafone wrap.
Quote from: BN on August 30, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
4607 back from refurb, replaced by 4606 last Vodafone bus.
Is 4567 back then BN? Haven't seen it back in service yet
No not yet mate, should be due back next friday
Quote from: BN on August 31, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
No not yet mate, should be due back next friday
Thanks for that :) Will look out for it BN ;) You said 4607 is back, When will it be back in service?
And then there was 1!
The last Gemini in TWM livery is 4495 which was out on the 94 today, 4496 was also out on the 94 today looking immaculate in NX livery, only passed it at Pine Square when I had passengers on annoyingly so couldn't get a photo. Did get a nice one of 4495 though while I was parked up on layover
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4495.html
Hopefully 4487 will follow 4495 in for repaint/retrim
Wow, since when has there been only one TWM Gemini! Time flies.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 01, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
Wow, since when has there been only one TWM Gemini! Time flies.
Doesn't seem long since WA's B7RLE's were still in Toothpaste livery. Also with the rate WN's trident repaints/refurbs they will all be done soon.
Only 28 WN tridents left to do out of the 75 we have
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2013, 08:51:13 PM
Hopefully 4487 will follow 4495 in for repaint/retrim
I was wondering if 4487 would be done again, because it lets the side down, it looks awfull compared to all the others at Perry Barr.
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:48:39 PM
I was wondering if 4487 would be done again, because it lets the side down, it looks awfull compared to all the others at Perry Barr.
Maybe it is the only Gemini with connection line on the sides? ???
Quote from: Sayeed_M on September 01, 2013, 10:51:51 PM
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:48:39 PM
I was wondering if 4487 would be done again, because it lets the side down, it looks awfull compared to all the others at Perry Barr.
Maybe it is the only Gemini with connection line on the sides? ???
At Perry Barr, yes. They have disspaeared on the drivers side with replacement panel and has an awful small logo in thier place. It also has different coloured white replaced lower panels
Quote from: BN on August 30, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
4607 back from refurb, replaced by 4606 last Vodafone bus.
Tbh the advert needed to be removed as it was out of date and been applied back in August 2012
I'll have to catch up on all these repaints now I'm back home, not been on the web for a week ::)
Quote from: Sayeed_M on September 01, 2013, 10:51:51 PM
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:48:39 PM
I was wondering if 4487 would be done again, because it lets the side down, it looks awfull compared to all the others at Perry Barr.
Maybe it is the only Gemini with connection line on the sides? ???
If you just mean PB yes it is but in general a load of WB Gemini's have connection bars
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:55:35 PM
I'll have to catch up on all these repaints now I'm back home, not been on the web for a week ::)
Well at WN 4607 is back and 4567 should be back soon. 4606/8 in at the moment aswell. At PE 4194 is now back.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 01, 2013, 10:56:59 PM
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:55:35 PM
I'll have to catch up on all these repaints now I'm back home, not been on the web for a week ::)
Well at WN 4607 is back and 4567 should be back soon. 4606/8 in at the moment aswell. At PE 4194 is now back.
Thanks Nathan. Also just noticed that 4234 is back at last.
BN, Do you know which buses at WN will be in for repaint/refurb when 4567/4608/4606 are back?
Not sure if its been noted already but 4499 is back on 71A today
Quote from: Sayeed_M on September 01, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 10:53:37 PM
At Perry Barr, yes. They have disspaeared on the drivers side with replacement panel and has an awful small logo in thier place. It also has different coloured white replaced lower panels
Ah, thanks, forgot to mention
Also could do with an interior refurb, old seats and etched windows inside.
Did I hear while I was away that Perry Barr 4730 was refurbished?
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:24:28 PM
Did I hear while I was away that Perry Barr 4730 was refurbished?
Not refurbished but was reported that is in the paint shop according to this post;-
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, around the paint shop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Quote from: Sayeed_M on September 03, 2013, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:24:28 PM
Did I hear while I was away that Perry Barr 4730 was refurbished?
Not refurbished but was reported that is in the paint shop according to this post;-
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
I had to visit Walsall again today, around the paint shop were
1817; 1827; 4110; 4221; 4361; 4364; 4368; 4730; 4733 + about another 4 inside
Thanks, I thought that I had seen it mentioned somewhere. May be back soon then :)
Look what I just found on Google Maps...
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Higgs+Road,+Wolverhampton&hl=en&ll=52.604142,-2.076502&spn=0.026689,0.055189&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=6.744857,14.128418&oq=higgs+road&hnear=Higgs+Rd,+Wolverhampton,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.604125,-2.076387&panoid=QoKkWwenObVJ_AWFXpVbOw&cbp=12,250.57,,1,2.05
4733 looking very smart on the 936 this morning.
4607 back out from refurb today, on the 79.
BN, Any idea what will go in the paintshop next now 4567 and 4607 are back :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 10:49:47 PM
BN, Any idea what will go in the paintshop next now 4567 and 4607 are back :)
Didnt see 4567 yesterday but seen 4607
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 06, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 10:49:47 PM
BN, Any idea what will go in the paintshop next now 4567 and 4607 are back :)
Didnt see 4567 yesterday but seen 4607
Caught 4567 to school today on the 59 ;) Saw 4607 the other day
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BN, Any idea what will go in the paintshop next now 4567 and 4607 are back :)
Didnt see 4567 yesterday but seen 4607
Caught 4567 to school today on the 59 ;) Saw 4607 the other day
4606 and 4566 have gone. 4608 should be back in the next couple of weeks.
Oh 4566 is the next one in then :) Thanks :) Any idea into the next couple of WN tridents to go in for refurb?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Oh 4566 is the next one in then :) Thanks :) Any idea into the next couple of WN tridents to go in for refurb?
I would imagine it'll be the 126-branded ones next. Although BN, in case you're not aware, 4571 is in great need of a refurb
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 07:59:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Oh 4566 is the next one in then :) Thanks :) Any idea into the next couple of WN tridents to go in for refurb?
I would imagine it'll be the 126-branded ones next. Although BN, in case you're not aware, 4571 is in great need of a refurb
Not nessasarily matt. They will probably do 4569-73 next then the 126 branded tridents then the TWM livered 458* and 459*
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
Oh 4566 is the next one in then :) Thanks :) Any idea into the next couple of WN tridents to go in for refurb?
I would imagine it'll be the 126-branded ones next. Although BN, in case you're not aware, 4571 is in great need of a refurb
Not nessasarily matt. They will probably do 4569-73 next then the 126 branded tridents then the TWM livered 458* and 459*
Why? They aren't just going to refurb them in numerical fleetnumber order
Seems that way at the moment 4606-8 and 4567/6
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
Seems that way at the moment 4606-8 and 4567/6
In that case why haven't 4555, 4557-4561 and 4564 been done yet?
4606-8 were done due to their Vodafone side-wraps, 4566/7 most likely for another reason. There are more important criteria than doing them in fleetnumber order
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
Seems that way at the moment 4606-8 and 4567/6
In that case why haven't 4555, 4557-4561 and 4564 been done yet?
4606-8 were done due to their Vodafone side-wraps, 4566/7 most likely for another reason. There are more important criteria than doing them in fleetnumber order
4571 is one as you said in desperate need for repaint and refurb so does 4590
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Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
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Seems that way at the moment 4606-8 and 4567/6
In that case why haven't 4555, 4557-4561 and 4564 been done yet?
4606-8 were done due to their Vodafone side-wraps, 4566/7 most likely for another reason. There are more important criteria than doing them in fleetnumber order
4571 is one as you said in desperate need for repaint and refurb so does 4590
I would expect they'll be amongst the next to go then, as long as PL have acknowledged their need
You only have to look at the two front right upstairs seats ;)
Can anybody tell me which Tridents from BC are being currently being refurbed I know 4364/4366/4368 are currently being done but I just want to know if there is any others :)
Have any of walsalls tridents ever been done?
Quote from: bob on September 08, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
Have any of walsalls tridents ever been done?
all of them in 2006
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Have any of walsalls tridents ever been done?
all of them in 2006
Nope. 4128 and 4307-9 didn't get done in 2006. 4125-7, 4129-41, 4162, 4163, 4305 and 4306 were refurbed for the 51
4128 was done early 2007 for premiere 997 with premiere 997 seats.
4194 back from refurb on the 246 today if thats news
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 11, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
4194 back from refurb on the 246 today if thats news
4194 has been back for a week or so, still no news it seems on 4202?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 11, 2013, 01:14:00 PM
4194 back from refurb on the 246 today if thats news
Been back a week or two. Photod it On Saturday
There was a 54 reg dennis trident heading for Walsall Garage which has had some of it's panels replaced and tidied up ready for repaint it might have been 4613 but not totally sure as it had no fleetnumber and only saw the reg quickly.
Quote from: Ash on September 11, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
There was a 54 reg dennis trident heading for Walsall Garage which has had some of it's panels replaced and tidied up ready for repaint it might have been 4613 but not totally sure as it had no fleetnumber and only saw the reg quickly.
BC or WN? I know 4606/8 are both being done atm so was it one of those you possibly saw?
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Quote from: Ash on September 11, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
There was a 54 reg dennis trident heading for Walsall Garage which has had some of it's panels replaced and tidied up ready for repaint it might have been 4613 but not totally sure as it had no fleetnumber and only saw the reg quickly.
BC or WN? I know 4606/8 are both being done atm so was it one of those you possibly saw?
No, as they are both already in for repaint.
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
No i am just saying that it should already be back at WN garage by now as it went in same time as 4607 which has been back at least a week so it should already be done now
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Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
No i am just saying that it should already be back at WN garage by now as it went in same time as 4607 which has been back at least a week so it should already be done now
I expect BN will report it as having returned in the next week or so
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
Quite likely to be 4608 which was being done at WB. So if seen repanelled would be on its way from WB to WA
Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2013, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
Quite likely to be 4608 which was being done at WB. So if seen repanelled would be on its way from WB to WA
Good point. How long should it take to repanel a Trident like 4608? As it seems to have taken quite a long time.
I thought a repanel, retrim, repaint job took 3 to 4 weeks, i think thats what Tony has previously said anyway
Spotted a freshly repainted Trident on Park Street this afternoon, maybe heading back to Birmingham Central. May have been a 43** one, but too far away to see the fleetnumber properly, as I was standing on Moor Street
Quote from: John on September 12, 2013, 03:09:08 PM
Spotted a freshly repainted Trident on Park Street this afternoon, maybe heading back to Birmingham Central. May have been a 43** one, but too far away to see the fleetnumber properly, as I was standing on Moor Street
4364, just photographed it in BC
Recently refurbed 4607 on 126 today and 4567 on 59 if anyone's looking for them :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
Recently refurbed 4607 on 126 today and 4567 on 59 if anyone's looking for them :)
I know you know Matt :) But for anybody else incase they weren't aware 4607/4567 have been back a week or so
Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2013, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 11, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
Tbh thinking about it 4608 should be back by now
The Trident reported by Ash was heading towards Walsall Garage, not away from it, and was presumably in TWM livery, so wouldn't be 4608
Quite likely to be 4608 which was being done at WB. So if seen repanelled would be on its way from WB to WA
I remember the reg being BX54DD? so it's likely it is 4608 and it was by Tame Bridge station so would have been coming from WB.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
Recently refurbed 4607 on 126 today and 4567 on 59 if anyone's looking for them :)
I know you know Matt :) But for anybody else in case they weren't aware 4607/4567 have been back a week or so
i Got a picture of 4607 in WB probably the second/third day it was back looking shiny as ever ;)
I stood outside Merry Hill and stourbridge bus stations for good chunks of time to photograph 4567 and 4194 respectively
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 12, 2013, 09:56:24 PM
I stood outside Merry Hill and stourbridge bus stations for good chunks of time to photograph 4567 and 4194 respectively
Well as Matt said 4567 was on the 59 today so wrong end of the West Midlands to spot that ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
Recently refurbed 4607 on 126 today and 4567 on 59 if anyone's looking for them :)
I know you know Matt :) But for anybody else incase they weren't aware 4607/4567 have been back a week or so
I know, I was just trying to help people photo or ride them who haven't yet ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
Recently refurbed 4607 on 126 today and 4567 on 59 if anyone's looking for them :)
I know you know Matt :) But for anybody else incase they weren't aware 4607/4567 have been back a week or so
I know, I was just trying to help people photo or ride them who haven't yet ;)
Just giving releven info to anyobody who wasn't aware ;)
I finally managed to ride 4607 after its refurb on the 20:25 126 from Wolves tonight.
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seen 4291 in nxwm livery last sunday on 74
Haven't seen 4529 in a while. Anything being done to it?
I was going to ask about the WB ALXs that are away but ones come back then :)
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 14, 2013, 08:52:25 PM
I was going to ask about the WB ALXs that are away but ones come back then :)
4294 is at Trailways
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Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 14, 2013, 08:52:25 PM
I was going to ask about the WB ALXs that are away but ones come back then :)
4294 is at Trailways
Looks as though the ALX400 refurb programme at WB is picking up speed a bit
I think a faair few people will be glad of that
4272 is in desperate need of at least a repaint
Is PB 4730 still in for a repaint or is it back now ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
Is PB 4730 still in for a repaint or is it back now ?
It was in the paint shop at the same time as 4733, so if not finished by now, then it should be nearly finished
Hopefully it will be in service soon then (:
1817 now completed seen it arriving back at BY around 9:30am
4366 now out on the Pershore Road today
Quote from: John on September 21, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
4366 now out on the Pershore Road today
Not a very good pic, but ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9858428603/
With similar seating to the 06 Gemini/56 b7rle? Or the earlier pattern. ( referring to the walsall tridents)
The seats for 4169; 4220 and 1796 have appeared at Miller Street for re trim
About time 4169 got some attention, 4220 my coventry top Trident
1795 now refurbished and repainted seen it on the 17 today looks great
Quote from: John on September 15, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
Is PB 4730 still in for a repaint or is it back now ?
It was in the paint shop at the same time as 4733, so if not finished by now, then it should be nearly finished
Still no sign of 4730 last week, so it may be having extra work done, or it may be out this week
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: John on September 15, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
Is PB 4730 still in for a repaint or is it back now ?
It was in the paint shop at the same time as 4733, so if not finished by now, then it should be nearly finished
Still no sign of 4730 last week, so it may be having extra work done, or it may be out this week
Been a long time in the Paintshop
Saw 4608 pulling out of the bus station looking smart this afternoon on a 256 :) First time i saw i have seen it back since repaint
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Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: John on September 15, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 10:23:07 PM
Is PB 4730 still in for a repaint or is it back now ?
It was in the paint shop at the same time as 4733, so if not finished by now, then it should be nearly finished
Still no sign of 4730 last week, so it may be having extra work done, or it may be out this week
Been a long time in the Paintshop
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4730 on 907 today.
Quote from: settlerman on September 25, 2013, 03:58:24 PM
4730 on 907 today.
Ah good. Hopefully I'll find it tomorrow
Newley refurb 4730 out on 907 tonight (:, got a crappy picture
heres 4730;
Was running late but manged to get a quick picture, but wasnt till later I thought OMG :o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9939743135/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:46:35 PM
heres 4730;
Was running late but manged to get a quick picture, but wasnt till later I thought OMG :o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9939743135/
That's looks very good. Hopefully I can find it somewhere on the Sutton Lines tomorrow
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:46:35 PM
heres 4730;
Was running late but manged to get a quick picture, but wasnt till later I thought OMG :o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9939743135/
Looks strange seeing it in new livery, great repaint though. I can't wait until a 57 reg is repainted, just to see what it looks like
4730 is a 57 reg ;) Personal opinion but I don't like the idea of the Toothpaste Enviros being repainted, they just look like any other NX enviro now, before they were a unique batch :(
Quote from: trident4370 on September 25, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
4730 is a 57 reg ;) Personally I don't like the idea of the Toothpaste Enviros being repainted, they just look like any other NX enviro now, before they were a unique batch :(
Sorry. I meant 07 reg :), the ones with the oval rear top window. They look better than the 57s in my opinion. A bit off topic, but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on September 25, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
4730 is a 57 reg ;) Personally I don't like the idea of the Toothpaste Enviros being repainted, they just look like any other NX enviro now, before they were a unique batch :(
Sorry. I meant 07 reg :), the ones with the oval rear top window. They look better than the 57s in my opinion.
Ahhh yes the 07s, I agree I think they look better too ;) The ticket machines have always fascinated me too, I wonder if when they're refurbished the ticket printers will be moved to the standard place.
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
Has anyone seen 4495 recently?
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
It would be nice if they did 4487 as well to complete the batch
Quote from: trident4370 on September 25, 2013, 10:12:43 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on September 25, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
4730 is a 57 reg ;) Personally I don't like the idea of the Toothpaste Enviros being repainted, they just look like any other NX enviro now, before they were a unique batch :(
Sorry. I meant 07 reg :), the ones with the oval rear top window. They look better than the 57s in my opinion.
Ahhh yes the 07s, I agree I think they look better too ;) The ticket machines have always fascinated me too, I wonder if when they're refurbished the ticket printers will be moved to the standard place.
Are the ticket machines the only internal difference between the 57 & 07 reg examples? A bit of an odd place for a ticket machine, but I'm sure it doesn't cause any inconvenience :)
They have a few minor differences, the windows are clear glass rather than tints, and the seating layout is slightly different downstairs. I don't think it causes an inconvenience but if it was something NX wanted to change what better time than when the bus is off road being refurbed :P
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
It would be nice if they did 4487 as well to complete the batch
4487 is in NXWM livery Winston, isn't it?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 10:26:56 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
It would be nice if they did 4487 as well to complete the batch
4487 is in NXWM livery Winston, isn't it?
Yes, but it does look a state now, especially compared to the others at Perry Barr
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 10:26:56 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:10:43 PM
but I'm glad all the Gems are in NXWM livery, I personally thought they looked horrid in TWM livery
One remaining in TWM livery, 4495. Maybe not for long though
It would be nice if they did 4487 as well to complete the batch
4487 is in NXWM livery Winston, isn't it?
Yes, but was an early repaint & wasn't refurb'd
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:03:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:46:35 PM
heres 4730;
Was running late but manged to get a quick picture, but wasnt till later I thought OMG :o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9939743135/
Looks strange seeing it in new livery, great repaint though. I can't wait until a 57 reg is repainted, just to see what it looks like
Minor point but one that really bugs me is how the destination surrounds are done in body colour rather than black on these repaints. I know they were white to begin with on the toothpaste Enviros but still. And don't get me started on 2142 and 4709...
Being allergic to (new) Scania products, has any OmniCities been done? And what was the idea of the missing red on the OmniCity toothpaste livery? ( The part above the doors and cab window? )
and I agree Mike K; wholeheartedly.
Being on 4001 earlier got me thinking, as 4007 has been withdrawn, maybe they should swap the seats over, as 4001's are in a right state! Although I don't know what state 4007 was in, all the other Spectra's I've been on recently were fine except for faded fabric. I suppose NX would consider that far too much work! Then I suppose there's 4002!
Quote from: Mike K on September 25, 2013, 10:31:08 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 25, 2013, 10:03:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:46:35 PM
heres 4730;
Was running late but manged to get a quick picture, but wasnt till later I thought OMG :o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9939743135/
Looks strange seeing it in new livery, great repaint though. I can't wait until a 57 reg is repainted, just to see what it looks like
Minor point but one that really bugs me is how the destination surrounds are done in body colour rather than black on these repaints. I know they were white to begin with on the toothpaste Enviros but still. And don't get me started on 2142 and 4709...
I used to use that to tell the leather ones from a distance. If they're going to repaint all the toothpaste ones like that it won't be as easy to tell.
Being on 4001 earlier got me thinking, as 4007 has been withdrawn, maybe they should swap the seats over, as 4001's are in a right state! Although I don't know what state 4007 was in, all the other Spectra's I've been on recently were fine except for faded fabric. I suppose NX would consider that far too much work! Then I suppose there's 4002!
Yeah, I would love to just give a day, freely of my own time, maybe on a Saturday to just spend time cleaning 4001 up myself as no one employed by NXWM seems bothered, all it needs is a good clean down, get some matching (ish) paint to cover over all the graffiti on the backs of seats, etc..., with just a bit of attention it could look so much better
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 26, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
Yeah, I would love to just give a day, freely of my own time, maybe on a Saturday to just spend time cleaning 4001 up myself as no one employed by NXWM seems bothered, all it needs is a good clean down, get some matching (ish) paint to cover over all the graffiti on the backs of seats, etc..., with just a bit of attention it could look so much better
I would happily help you out there :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 26, 2013, 12:19:19 AM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 26, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
Yeah, I would love to just give a day, freely of my own time, maybe on a Saturday to just spend time cleaning 4001 up myself as no one employed by NXWM seems bothered, all it needs is a good clean down, get some matching (ish) paint to cover over all the graffiti on the backs of seats, etc..., with just a bit of attention it could look so much better
I would happily help you out there :)
Hmm.. Me too, would prefer cleaning a Voith Trident though ;)
Are 4001 and 4002 still in WMT spec moquette? Or where they ever recovered in the light blue TWM spec?
Quote from: Gareth on September 26, 2013, 12:36:54 AM
Are 4001 and 4002 still in WMT spec moquette? Or where they ever recovered in the light blue TWM spec?
They still have the original WMT seats Gareth
4292 now done, out on the 74/75 today (noted at 09.34, in West Brom heading to Dudley)
Quote from: John on September 26, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: Gareth on September 26, 2013, 12:36:54 AM
Are 4001 and 4002 still in WMT spec moquette? Or where they ever recovered in the light blue TWM spec?
They still have the original WMT seats Gareth
I put some pictures on flickr of upstairs
It would be helpful if I put the links here ::)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/9938959065/in/photostream/
Quote from: N94 on September 26, 2013, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: John on September 26, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: Gareth on September 26, 2013, 12:36:54 AM
Are 4001 and 4002 still in WMT spec moquette? Or where they ever recovered in the light blue TWM spec?
They still have the original WMT seats Gareth
I put some pictures on flickr of upstairs
N94, can you confirm your flickr site address?
Quote from: uniquicity on September 26, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
4292 now done, out on the 74/75 today (noted at 09.34, in West Brom heading to Dudley)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9953700985/
Rode 4608 for the first time since coming back from Repaint/refurb on the 59 today.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
Rode 4608 for the first time since coming back from Repaint/refurb on the 59 today.
refurb? The usual, a retrim for the seats?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 26, 2013, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
Rode 4608 for the first time since coming back from Repaint/refurb on the 59 today.
refurb? The usual, a retrim for the seats?
Well you know what i mean ;)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 26, 2013, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2013, 07:35:03 PM
Rode 4608 for the first time since coming back from Repaint/refurb on the 59 today.
refurb? The usual, a retrim for the seats?
NXWM don't do refurbs. What TGB have done to 121, that qualifies as a refurb ;)
They should have done something to 121's engine though! It might have had an extensive refurb but its so slow its banned from Hagley Hill! ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
They should have done something to 121's engine though! It might have had an extensive refurb but its so slow its banned from Hagley Hill! ;)
Correct, shows you listen to what I tell you ;) 121 has fuel pump problems (similar to 109 but worse) and wouldn't be able to make it up the Hagley Hill, it was put on service HC1 once and never again. It is allocated almost daily to service SP1 which is less challenging.
NXWM really don't know how to refurb a bus though do they ;D
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 26, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
They should have done something to 121's engine though! It might have had an extensive refurb but its so slow its banned from Hagley Hill! ;)
Correct, 121 has fuel pump problems (similar to 109 but worse) and wouldn't be able to make it up the Hagley Hill, it was put on service HC1 once and never again. It is allocated almost daily to service SP1 which is less challenging.
NXWM really don't know how to refurb a bus though do they ;D
The dictionary definition of refurbish is "To make clean, bright, or fresh again; renovate.", now they may do this to the outside, they definitely don't do it to the inside.
Maybe they do go through full refurbs, it could be things we dont' notice or look for without being told. I think were all curious as to what happens to each goes that undergoes a refurb but in the greatest kindness i think people such as tony have important things to do with their days than checking up on every last progressive detail on every vehicle
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 26, 2013, 09:29:41 PM
Maybe they do go through full refurbs, it could be things we dont' notice or look for without being told. I think were all curious as to what happens to each goes that undergoes a refurb but in the greatest kindness i think people such as tony have important things to do with their days than checking up on every last progressive detail on every vehicle
Very true, maybe we shall find out more if the depot visit goes ahead.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 26, 2013, 09:32:46 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 26, 2013, 09:29:41 PM
Maybe they do go through full refurbs, it could be things we dont' notice or look for without being told. I think were all curious as to what happens to each goes that undergoes a refurb but in the greatest kindness i think people such as tony have important things to do with their days than checking up on every last progressive detail on every vehicle
Very true, maybe we shall find out more if the depot visit goes ahead.
Those who visit Walsall next month will see quite how much is removed from a bus on refurb
By the way sorry if that sounded like a rant
4614s seats now at Miller Street
Quote from: John on September 26, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on September 26, 2013, 09:36:40 AM
4292 now done, out on the 74/75 today (noted at 09.34, in West Brom heading to Dudley)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9953700985/
The paintshop missed putting its rear fleetnumber on. Noted that today.
1896 repainted
Don't seem to be no priority on tridents being done
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 30, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
1896 repainted
Don't seem to be no priority on tridents being done
Lynx 1103,
Has 1896 had a full repaint? Any idea if the seats have been re-trimmed?
Walsalls Tridents or the majority have just had the seats re trimmed in old style noquette however the paintjobs on one or two are peeling. As for the omnilinks, theyve gone pink and the seat trim looks like crap but its abit early to start on them isnt it even if it is sort of a good idea
Quote from: Winston on September 30, 2013, 09:28:47 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 30, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
1896 repainted
Don't seem to be no priority on tridents being done
Lynx 1103,
Has 1896 had a full repaint? Any idea if the seats have been re-trimmed?
Not sure about interior is full repaint looks like 1786
Does anybody know which WN Tridents are currently in for Refurb so I can update my List :)
4566 and 4606 are being done at the minute
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 30, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
4566 and 4606 are being done at the minute
Thank You Ashley :) Just to update my refurb list ;)
Quote from: Rob4367 on September 30, 2013, 09:33:38 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 30, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
4566 and 4606 are being done at the minute
Thank You Ashley :) Just to update my refurb list ;)
And 4582 Rob :) 4582,4566 and 4606 are in atm
Just mentioned 4582 Tony :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 30, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Just mentioned 4582 Tony :)
Tony, any idea why 1642 is at WA, for a repaint?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 30, 2013, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 30, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Just mentioned 4582 Tony :)
Tony, any idea why 1642 is at WA, for a repaint?
Presumably all remaining TWM-livery Mercs will be imminently withdrawn when the Trident & B7RLE cascades arrive, so rather than repainting them, the NXWM-livery Mercs in the worst exterior condition are receiving attention instead
Would the withdrawn Mercs be stripped for spares or flogged as 'runners'
I would think the Mercs that are getting repaints are the Mercs that won't be withdrawn until all Mercs are withdrawn?
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 30, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
I would think the Mercs that are getting repaints are the Mercs that won't be withdrawn until all Mercs are withdrawn?
1642 has the grey dot seats so not surprised it's getting a repaint, I expect it to be one of the last Mercs standing
Quote from: John on September 30, 2013, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 30, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
1642 has the grey dot seats
When did they get done?
Ages ago, I remember riding it in February-ish with the dot seats
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 30, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 30, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
I would think the Mercs that are getting repaints are the Mercs that won't be withdrawn until all Mercs are withdrawn?
1642 has the grey dot seats so not surprised it's getting a repaint, I expect it to be one of the last Mercs standing
It hasn't, it was one of the earlier Merc refubs and has the darker blue moquette (see video clip below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtHwOBTK4F4
1641 & 1643 both have grey dot moquette
Quote from: Winston on September 30, 2013, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 30, 2013, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 30, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
I would think the Mercs that are getting repaints are the Mercs that won't be withdrawn until all Mercs are withdrawn?
1642 has the grey dot seats so not surprised it's getting a repaint, I expect it to be one of the last Mercs standing
It hasn't, it was one of the earlier Merc refubs and has the darker blue moquette (see video clip below)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtHwOBTK4F4
1641 & 1643 both have grey dot moquette
My mistake, I was confusing it with 1643, thanks Winston
4366 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4366.html
4368 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4368.html
both now back at Central
4294 should be back at West Bromwich any time now as well
Are there any more Perry Barr buses in at the minute Tony?
Quote from: John on October 01, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Are there any more Perry Barr buses in at the minute Tony?
The last Gemini!
Quote from: Tony on October 01, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: John on October 01, 2013, 08:59:45 PM
Are there any more Perry Barr buses in at the minute Tony?
The last Gemini!
Thought I have not seen it for a while. Thanks Tony
Fingers crossed 4487 gets the same treatment afterwards!
Quote from: trident4370 on October 01, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Fingers crossed 4487 gets the same treatment afterwards!
It defiantly needs it. Drivers side looks a right state.
Be a shame to not see any more Gemini's in TWM livery :(
Yeah it doesn't look great! I agree, I Will miss seeing TWM liveries when they are gone... Does this mean that now all the Wrightbus vehicles in the fleet are in NX colours? I'm pretty sure the older B7RLE were all done, 2153 is supposed to be done or is being done, all the Geminis are now done, there's no TWM B10L left either now 1480 has gone so that's it? :(
Quote from: trident4370 on October 01, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
Yeah it doesn't look great! I agree, I Will miss seeing TWM liveries when they are gone... Does this mean that now all the Wrightbus vehicles in the fleet are in NX colours? I'm pretty sure the older B7RLE were all done, 2153 is supposed to be done or is being done, all the Geminis are now done, there's no TWM B10L left either now 1480 has gone so that's it? :(
2153 has been done & back at NXC a while now
Quote from: Winston on October 01, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 01, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
Yeah it doesn't look great! I agree, I Will miss seeing TWM liveries when they are gone... Does this mean that now all the Wrightbus vehicles in the fleet are in NX colours? I'm pretty sure the older B7RLE were all done, 2153 is supposed to be done or is being done, all the Geminis are now done, there's no TWM B10L left either now 1480 has gone so that's it? :(
2153 has been done & back at NXC a while now
Thanks for confirming, I wasn't sure as I haven't seen it on the road yet!
Quote from: trident4370 on October 01, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
Does this mean that now all the Wrightbus vehicles in the fleet are in NX colours?
Yes, 2153 is in blue at Coventry (evaded me last week though, but did see it leaving the garage to take up PM peak)
All of 1750-1787 are now in NXWM livery after 1786 been the last,
Only NXWM liveried B10Ls (1480 been the last) and B6LEs left in service now also (I think 6784 was the last, withdrawn from West Brom in May).
All other Gemini's in either NXWM or NXC livery
I thought so, I guess it won't be that much longer to go until everything is Red and White! :(
What about 4495 and 4498? Have they been spruced up yet?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 01, 2013, 09:26:57 PM
What about 4495 and 4498? Have they been spruced up yet?
4495, the last Gemini, is currently in for a "refurb"
4498 is done 4495 is the last one!
Oh ok thanks
Hi, apologies if this has already been said (being from Dundee makes it hard to keep up to date with WM) but what single deckers are in for repaint? Plus, where do CV vehicles go for repaint?
Quote from: Kiewii on October 02, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
Hi, apologies if this has already been said (being from Dundee makes it hard to keep up to date with WM) but what single deckers are in for repaint? Plus, where do CV vehicles go for repaint?
Repaints from Coventry go to Walsall, the same as the rest of the NXWM fleet
Quote from: John on October 02, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on October 02, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
Hi, apologies if this has already been said (being from Dundee makes it hard to keep up to date with WM) but what single deckers are in for repaint? Plus, where do CV vehicles go for repaint?
Repaints from Coventry go to Walsall, the same as the rest of the NXWM fleet
Thanks John
Quote from: Kiewii on October 02, 2013, 06:20:29 PM
Thanks John
No problem.
About single deckers in for refurb, The only two I can find reference to in the past 2 weeks are 1642 and 1796, but there may be more
PB 4258 has been done.
how long does it take to re-paint a bus roughly ?
Quote from: John on October 02, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on October 02, 2013, 06:20:29 PM
Thanks John
No problem.
About single deckers in for refurb, The only two I can find reference to in the past 2 weeks are 1642 and 1796, but there may be more
1796 now done http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1796.html
1798 is now in
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 03, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
how long does it take to re-paint a bus roughly ?
Depends on the amount of work needed to be done on an individual bus.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 03, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
how long does it take to re-paint a bus roughly ?
Depends on the amount of work needed to be done on an individual bus.
The physical repaint takes a day. Then there is the rubbing down first and the applying all the vinyls stickers and notices when it is finished. All NXWM buses have a full external overhaul replacing any badly damaged panels and filling dents in any minor damaged panels. This is what takes the variable time trident4609 refers to above
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 30, 2013, 09:26:04 AM
1896 repainted
On the 4 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10088118686/
(Back to using my old camera for a while until my other has been repaired)
4361 now done out on the 35 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10101557165/
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 03, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
how long does it take to re-paint a bus roughly ?
Depends on the amount of work needed to be done on an individual bus.
The physical repaint takes a day. Then there is the rubbing down first and the applying all the vinyls stickers and notices when it is finished. All NXWM buses have a full external overhaul replacing any badly damaged panels and filling dents in any minor damaged panels. This is what takes the variable time trident4609 refers to above
Ok, question then.
The ex-cov omnilinks at Perry Barr have obviously been repianted, but how come some still have coventry adverts inside?
Quote from: Kevin on October 05, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 03, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
how long does it take to re-paint a bus roughly ?
Depends on the amount of work needed to be done on an individual bus.
The physical repaint takes a day. Then there is the rubbing down first and the applying all the vinyls stickers and notices when it is finished. All NXWM buses have a full external overhaul replacing any badly damaged panels and filling dents in any minor damaged panels. This is what takes the variable time trident4609 refers to above
Ok, question then.
The ex-cov omnilinks at Perry Barr have obviously been repianted, but how come some still have coventry adverts inside?
These just had a quick partial repaint with the blue overpainted red. Nothing else.
Is 4231 or 4234 just been done as its out on the 16 today looking new (:
Nathan
4231 is one of the battered wb examples
4234 has been back a couple of weeks
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
Is 4231 or 4234 just been done as its out on the 16 today looking new (:
4234, which is the one that lost its complete roof & has since been rebuilt/refurb'd
Quote from: Winston on October 06, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
Is 4231 or 4234 just been done as its out on the 16 today looking new (:
4234, which is the one that lost its complete roof & has since been rebuilt/refurb'd
Did it have no advert frames Nathan? If so, it was defiantly 4234
Quote from: John on October 06, 2013, 06:15:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 06, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
Is 4231 or 4234 just been done as its out on the 16 today looking new (:
4234, which is the one that lost its complete roof & has since been rebuilt/refurb'd
Did it have no advert frames Nathan? If so, it was defiantly 4234
might have advert frames actually not too sure :-\, I vow from this day forward I shall write down what I see :)
I wish the Scanias would keep the grey/silver light backgrounds; prefer that to the plain red background.
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 07, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
It was out on Saturday, didn't see the route though, may have been the 59 or 60 but just a guess
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 07, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
Has anyone genuinely travelled on it yet? Yes it was out on 45/47 today they are a few new additions on it to look out for, not just new video monitors and cameras
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 07, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
It was out on Saturday, didn't see the route though, may have been the 59 or 60 but just a guess
97.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 07, 2013, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 07, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
It was out on Saturday, didn't see the route though, may have been the 59 or 60 but just a guess
97.
Oh, thanks LS ;) was just going by where I saw it on MS
Quote from: Tony on October 07, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 07, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
4368 was out today seen it on the 45 while waiting for the 900 looks fantastic but I think it has a problem with rear display :)
Has anyone genuinely travelled on it yet? Yes it was out on 45/47 today they are a few new additions on it to look out for, not just new video monitors and cameras
If 4368 appears on any of the 59 or 60 workings I get on I'll have a look :)
4294 is back now, it currently should be heading towards Birmingham on the 80
Do we know the progress on 4218s repairs?
4056 is back from paint (on the 5 today) but hasn't had its seats retrimmed.
Quote from: uniquicity on October 03, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
PB 4258 has been done.
No it hasn't, on the 67 this afternoon still in TWM livery, has a megarear for a LG Smartphone
I can blame my spy in Birmingham for that. Didn't actually see 4258 myself ;)
Quote from: uniquicity on October 10, 2013, 05:00:09 PM
I can blame my spy in Birmingham for that. Didn't actually see 4258 myself ;)
No worries ;)
Here is 4736
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10191050303/
And 4294
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10190801984/
Quote from: John on October 10, 2013, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on October 10, 2013, 05:00:09 PM
I can blame my spy in Birmingham for that. Didn't actually see 4258 myself ;)
No worries ;)
Here is 4736
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10191050303/
Now just for 4735 to be done
Glad i got a photo and Video of 4736 in Toothpaste livery ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:23:07 PM
Glad i got a photo and Video of 4736 in Toothpaste livery ;)
What difference does the livery of a bus make in a video onboard? ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 10, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:23:07 PM
Glad i got a photo and Video of 4736 in Toothpaste livery ;)
What difference does the livery of a bus make in a video onboard? ;)
Well i should have mentioned about the interior aswell as it presumably has the grey dotted moquette;)
1798 now Refurbished and Repainted seen on the 17 looks great
1790 now at Walsall
Been told 4582 is back at WN
Quote from: Winston on October 11, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 11, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
1790 now at Walsall
Second repaint
Wasn't 1790/1792 done at Yardley Wood.
It's a good order bordesley are doing start from the top
And complete all. 1790/1792 was not refurbished so its good there doing
Thease instead of just leaving them incomplete like some WA B7RLE examples.
1750 was the first in NXWM livery in 2008 and now could do with a repaint.
Most of walsalls could do with some more attention when the time comes, clean the etching off the windows and thatd be good enough
1790 and 1792 were only repainted at YW, they weren't given a refurb.
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 11, 2013, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 11, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 11, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
1790 now at Walsall
Second repaint
Wasn't 1790/1792 done at Yardley Wood.
It's a good order bordesley are doing start from the top
And complete all. 1790/1792 was not refurbished so its good there doing
Thease instead of just leaving them incomplete like some WA B7RLE examples.
1750 was the first in NXWM livery in 2008 and now could do with a repaint.
1750 is the only unrefurbished one all the others were done, just in the earlier moquette before grey dots became standard
4495 is done, on the 7 today.
4566 is back from Repaint/refurb and should be back out soon. 4606 is due back next week i have been told.
I have also been told 4583 is the next trident at WN in for repaint
Quote from: Winston on October 15, 2013, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on October 15, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
4495 is done, on the 7 today.
Will 4487 be next :-\
I passed it this morning on the Brookvale road, as I was driving down towards Witton. As it looked like a brand new repaint, I thought is that 4495. Shame to see it repainted, as it was the last in TWM livery.
I would hope 4487 goes through refurb next, as it does let the side down for the rest of the Gemini's at Perry Barr
I think the refurbs done on the PB Geminis are fantastic, makes them look new again. Would be nice to see 4487 treated to the same treatment.
For those who didn't notice the photo appear yesterday
4301 is back at PB http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4301.html
4735; 4382; 4139 and 4290 are amongst others being done
Quote from: Tony on October 19, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
For those who didn't notice the photo appear yesterday
4301 is back at PB http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4301.html
4735; 4382; 4139 and 4290 are amongst others being done
The final Toothpaste E400 at WA in for paint now :( Guess they can start on the Tridents at WA now
I wonder if 4582 is back yet. I know 4566 and 4606 are back and 4583 is one that is in aswell
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 19, 2013, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 19, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
For those who didn't notice the photo appear yesterday
4301 is back at PB http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4301.html
4735; 4382; 4139 and 4290 are amongst others being done
The final Toothpaste E400 at WA in for paint now :( Guess they can start on the Tridents at WA now
I wonder if 4582 is back yet. I know 4566 and 4606 are back and 4583 is one that is in aswell
I've got 4582 as being back, sure someone posted it on here, Ashley 4566?
Don't think they can do a refurb in 15 days!
The person who told me it was 4582 may have meant 4566 so im sorry if ive caused any comfusion
4566 came back over a week ago. 4606 came back Friday night though
Hanks for the info
Quote from: BN on October 20, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
4566 came back over a week ago.
If anyone is looking for it, 4566 is on the 126 today
Quote from: John on October 21, 2013, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: BN on October 20, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
4566 came back over a week ago.
If anyone is looking for it, 4566 is on the 126 today
Thanks for that John ;) Now i know its out i can go and look for it :)
4606 should be back in service soon
Not sure if I have mentioned 4139, but that is being done now
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
Not sure if I have mentioned 4139, but that is being done now
Think you or somebody else mentioned it a few posts back :)
Two more in from Perry Barr are 4300 & 4487
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2013, 04:18:01 PM
Two more in from Perry Barr are 4300 & 4487
Finally! :D
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2013, 04:18:01 PM
Two more in from Perry Barr are 4300 & 4487
Glad 4487 is getting a refurb this will please a number of people :) and how is 4169's refurb doing Tony
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 22, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2013, 04:18:01 PM
Two more in from Perry Barr are 4300 & 4487
Glad 4487 is getting a refurb this will please a number of people :)
Yes I am glad it is going in again. It will make a change to see it go from the worst condition Gemini at Perry Barr to the best condition when completed. Also glad of 4300 going in, completes the refurbs of the ex-Dundee B7TLs
4300 lost its McCain ad already?
I remember when 4304 was first done. It was very smart. Brand new old style seats and mini bars logo.
4301 on the 71A today if anybodys looking
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 23, 2013, 12:56:18 PM
4301 on the 71A today if anybodys looking
Thanks Ashley. I did find it without even looking for it :) If only all buses were that easy to spot
No worries John, It came straight away for me as well, just a battle with todays strong sun
would 4735 be back yet ? or too soon
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 23, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
would 4735 be back yet ? or too soon
Miller Street haven't even started on its seats yet
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 23, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
would 4735 be back yet ? or too soon
Tony reported it on the 19th, so I would think the beginning of November it my be done judging by the speed of other refurbs
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2013, 08:10:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 23, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
would 4735 be back yet ? or too soon
Miller Street haven't even started on its seats yet
Seems like its been away for a while ::) then again not doing much in the day makes the days very slow
Any news on 4169 :)
Quote from: John on October 23, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 23, 2013, 12:56:18 PM
4301 on the 71A today if anybodys looking
Thanks Ashley. I did find it without even looking for it :) If only all buses were that easy to spot
I saw it on the 16 as well today. It's following me! :)
Also Bordesley 1803 is repainted and on the 17 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10458729893/
And here is 4495
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10458501294/
For those that have not read the Pensnett Garage thread 4135 is now repainted
1799 & 1801 are currently in for refurb from Bordesley
4135 has a new set of seats as well as seat covers
Quote from: John on October 25, 2013, 06:09:16 PM
For those that have not read the Pensnett Garage thread 4135 is now repainted
Leaving 4199 as currently the only Trident at Pensnett in TWM livery
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 25, 2013, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: John on October 25, 2013, 06:09:16 PM
For those that have not read the Pensnett Garage thread 4135 is now repainted
Leaving 4199 as the only Trident at Pensnett in TWM livery
Which I saw in service today, so hasn't gone to Walsall yet
Any news on 1642 Tony?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 25, 2013, 07:46:19 PM
Any news on 1642 Tony?
It has moved from where it was at Walsall when I was there earlier in the week. 1677 is at Carlyle as well for some sort of repairs, along with AG 4674 which has all its back sheeted over
Hows 4169's refurb going Tony? :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 25, 2013, 08:11:38 PM
Hows 4169's refurb going Tony? :)
Since a set of seats arrived at Miller Street labelled 4169 I have seen no more of it. I haven't seen inside the paintshop for a few weeks. What is in there will no doubt be reported well next Friday
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 25, 2013, 08:11:38 PM
Hows 4169's refurb going Tony? :)
Since a set of seats arrived at Miller Street labelled 4169 I have seen no more of it. I haven't seen inside the paintshop for a few weeks. What is in there will no doubt be reported well next Friday
Thank You Tony :) Looking forward to next Friday I'll be going with James (nxwmbusfan1999)
Quote from: uniquicity on October 10, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
4056 is back from paint (on the 5 today) but hasn't had its seats retrimmed.
Saw it on the 83
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10494400796/
122 consequetive buses now done 4433-4554
4135
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/10537852596/
4582 now back from repaint/refurb. 4580/1 are next ones in with 4583 already in for paint. Only 4575 and 4579 with 126 branding
Quote from: John on October 29, 2013, 06:08:20 PM
4135
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/10537852596/
Looks good, the new moquette looks far better on the grey seats, though I do wish they would put the paper notices in frames rather than bluetacked to the window that does look shoddy and all it takes is for a bit of condensation then they peel and get soggy and fall off anyway
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
4582 now back from repaint/refurb. 4580/1 are next ones in with 4583 already in for paint. Only 4575 and 4579 with 126 branding
4580 was on the 126 on Sunday. Shame to see the 126 branding go.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 29, 2013, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
4582 now back from repaint/refurb. 4580/1 are next ones in with 4583 already in for paint. Only 4575 and 4579 with 126 branding
4580 was on the 126 on Sunday. Shame to see the 126 branding go.
Maybe they're refurbishing them for NEW 126 Branding Possibly
Did mention that some time back and have thought that but i was told new 126 branding isn't likley. I actually think the 126 will get new buses with branding next year
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
4582 now back from repaint/refurb. 4580/1 are next ones in with 4583 already in for paint. Only 4575 and 4579 with 126
4582 out on the 126 today
Any news about 4218?
4606, 4607 and 4608 are sticking to the 126. All 3 have been on there for the last 2/3 days at least.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 30, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
4606, 4607 and 4608 are sticking to the 126. All 3 have been on there for the last 2/3 days at least.
Did you see any of them on the 126 today?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 30, 2013, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 30, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
4606, 4607 and 4608 are sticking to the 126. All 3 have been on there for the last 2/3 days at least.
Did you see any of them on the 126 today?
All of them. Nearly caught 4606.
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
The Gemini must be 4487. Winston has said the B7TL was 4290. So is 4382 finished?
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
The Gemini must be 4487. Winston has said the B7TL was 4290. So is 4382 finished?
and 1799 was in there with 1801 in the refurb bay in the garage
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
The Gemini must be 4487. Winston has said the B7TL was 4290. So is 4382 finished?
yes looked ready to leave
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
The Gemini must be 4487. Winston has said the B7TL was 4290. So is 4382 finished?
yes looked ready to leave
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4487.html
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2013, 10:09:55 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 01, 2013, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 01, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
Buses noted in the paintshop on our garage tour were
4580/1/3,1462,4382 (Saw heading into Birmingham this afternoon),4218,4735,A gemini and an ALX400 B7TL
The Gemini must be 4487. Winston has said the B7TL was 4290. So is 4382 finished?
yes looked ready to leave
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4487.html
Thats a vast improvement
The B7TL ALX400's are 4290 and 4298 if not mentioned already.
Was 4331 parked outside the paintshop for any particular reason today?
Quote from: Ashley on November 01, 2013, 10:24:57 PM
The B7TL ALX400's are 4290 and 4298 if not mentioned already.
Was 4331 parked outside the paintshop for any particular reason today?
No. It actually went out in service while we were in the paintshop
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 01, 2013, 10:24:57 PM
The B7TL ALX400's are 4290 and 4298 if not mentioned already.
Was 4331 parked outside the paintshop for any particular reason today?
No. It actually went out in service while we were in the paintshop
I saw it in service, on the 7 I think, about an hour after we left.
4382 freshly refurbed also left not long after us, seen in Perry Barr heading towards the city at about 2pm.
Thanks Matt and Tony
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 01, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 01, 2013, 10:24:57 PM
The B7TL ALX400's are 4290 and 4298 if not mentioned already.
Was 4331 parked outside the paintshop for any particular reason today?
No. It actually went out in service while we were in the paintshop
I saw it in service, on the 7 I think, about an hour after we left.
4382 freshly refurbed also left not long after us, seen in Perry Barr heading towards the city at about 2pm.
I think it was on the 41 when it passed us not the 7 :P
Fair enough, I just remembered seeing a TWM liveried Trident on the 7 ;)
Currently on an un refurbished e400 on the x51, it looks absolutely fine doesnt need a retrim. Are they all gonna be done? The tridents are in much more need surely?
4614 refurbished on the Pershore Road today
Quote from: John on November 02, 2013, 03:13:52 PM
4614 refurbished on the Pershore Road today
Thanks John :)
Anyone know why 1446 is at Trailways, (saw it on one of the allocation sheets)
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on November 02, 2013, 03:15:56 PM
Quote from: John on November 02, 2013, 03:13:52 PM
4614 refurbished on the Pershore Road today
Thanks John :)
No problem, here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10627573606/
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 02, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Anyone know why 1446 is at Trailways, (saw it on one of the allocation sheets)
Maybe they are doing something similar to what 1462 will become
Quote from: Winston on November 02, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 02, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Anyone know why 1446 is at Trailways, (saw it on one of the allocation sheets)
Maybe they are doing something similar to what 1462 will become
Thats what i thought to Winston, maybe they had considered something similar for 1642 because i can't see any reason for it to visit WA and be parked outside the paintshop?
Quote from: Winston on November 02, 2013, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 02, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Anyone know why 1446 is at Trailways, (saw it on one of the allocation sheets)
Maybe they are doing something similar to what 1462 will become
What's that then?
Its to become a mobile classroom, was inside the paintshop having attention.
Great Job NXWM 4614 Looks Great :)
Quote from: bob on November 02, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
Currently on an un refurbished e400 on the x51, it looks absolutely fine doesnt need a retrim. Are they all gonna be done? The tridents are in much more need surely?
That was 4737
I don't know if it has been mentioned but 4221 has been refurbished
Quote from: Ashley on November 02, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
I don't know if it has been mentioned but 4221 has been refurbished
Yes, seen in NXC livery on Sat 2nd November.
Someone was asking about 4169
Here it is back at BC today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4169.html
October fleet changes on the front page now as well
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Someone was asking about 4169
Here it is back at BC today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4169.html
October fleet changes on the front page now as well
That was me ;) Looking forward to seeing it :)
Why has 4621 been refurbed in the grey dot trimmings, but still has the full fat connector bars livery?
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 06, 2013, 05:29:16 PM
Why has 4621 been refurbed in the grey dot trimmings, but still has the full fat connector bars livery?
It was not refurbished at repaint, repaints at that time did not get their seats reupholstered.
For some reason, they were sent sometime this year, they were probably very worn out. I remember Tony saying its seats were at Miller Street
newly re-painted 4487 out today on the 914/115;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10740769465/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 08, 2013, 12:19:41 PM
newly re-painted 4487 out today on the 914/115;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10740769465/
That does look good ;)
4219 is the latest set of seats to arrive at Miller Street
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
4219 is the latest set of seats to arrive at Miller Street
Is there any more from BC Tony?
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
4219 is the latest set of seats to arrive at Miller Street
So 4220 is the last left with the Vodafone all-over advert. 4221 was refurbished a few weeks ago, and now 4219 is in for refurb.
Only leaves 4220, 4222 and 4224 still in Travel Coventry livery out of the Y-TOH Tridents
4220 is being refurbished so I believe John
4220 has been done. Seen on the 10 today.
Quote from: Ashley on November 08, 2013, 10:38:51 PM
4220 is being refurbished so I believe John
Quote from: paul82 on November 08, 2013, 10:52:19 PM
4220 has been done. Seen on the 10 today.
Thanks both, It slipped though the net, so to speak :)
4735 is back, was on the 997 today.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 09, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
4735 is back, was on the 997 today.
Hopefully 4218 won't be far behind, as they were both nearly ready for repaint at the Walsall garage visit
Quote from: John on November 10, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 09, 2013, 06:11:04 PM
4735 is back, was on the 997 today.
Hopefully 4218 won't be far behind, as they were both nearly ready for repaint at the Walsall garage visit
Managed to see 4735 this morning on a 935, but it left before I managed to get a pic >:(. Plus is there any sightings of 4218?
1802 & 1847 are now being done. 1847 losing its leather seats
Quote from: Tony on November 14, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
1847 losing its leather seats
Will they be done the same as 4776, keeping the high back seats?
Quote from: John on November 14, 2013, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 14, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
1847 losing its leather seats
Will they be done the same as 4776, keeping the high back seats?
I would think so, it will be just the seat cushions that are being changed
The seats for 4327 have now arrived at Miller Street
No-one else noticed this on the 97 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 10:32:26 PM
No-one else noticed this on the 97 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
Mmm!! So clean!
another clean VCR by the looks of it! Good show, good show.
First day back in service I presume?
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 10:32:26 PM
No-one else noticed this on the 97 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
:) :) :) :) :)
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 10:32:26 PM
No-one else noticed this on the 97 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
Certainly didn't look like that at WA a couple of weeks ago.
4234 looks newly done, was on the 94 today ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 16, 2013, 07:03:17 PM
4234 looks newly done, was on the 94 today ?
That's been back a while, the one de-roofed on the 7 back in January. It was back in service in September.
It goes to show the improvements in the refurbishments if it still looks recently done 2 months later
Quote from: John on November 16, 2013, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 16, 2013, 07:03:17 PM
4234 looks newly done, was on the 94 today ?
That's been back a while, the one de-roofed on the 7 back in January. It was back in service in September.
It goes to show the improvements in the refurbishments if it still looks recently done 2 months later
Thought it has recently come back, still looks new, an no advert frames in yet
WN tridents still to be done
4555/7/8/9/60/1/2/4/9/70/1/2/3/5/9/87/8/9/90/2/4/5/6
Only 23 left to do now. All of 4535-53 and 4597-4609 are in NX livery
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 16, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
WN tridents still to be done
4555/7/8/9/60/1/2/4/9/70/1/2/3/5/9/87/8/9/90/2/4/5/6
Only 23 left to do now. All of 4535-53 and 4597-4609 are in NX livery
4554 is done Nath ;)
Sorry ;) How could i forget 4554 ;D Only rode it the other day
4310 and 4311 have only just came back to Park Lane and are already in for repaint/refurb
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
4310 and 4311 have only just came back to Park Lane and are already in for repaint/refurb
Well they're obviously sure they are going to keep them for a little while then
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
4310 and 4311 have only just came back to Park Lane and are already in for repaint/refurb
If WN have put those both in refurb, I would have thought two of the three WN Tridents we saw going through refurb at Walsall must be back or due back imminently? I would think 4581 & 4583 are the most likely to be returning, as 4580 looked to have only recently arrived
Can't see WN having 5 buses going through refurb
4127 now in for refurb
Quote from: Winston on November 18, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
If WN have put those both in refurb, I would have thought two of the three WN Tridents we saw going through refurb at Walsall must be back or due back imminently?
4735 and 4218 are done, they were in at the same time so they must be back, if not, then due back any time now
Quote from: John on November 19, 2013, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: Winston on November 18, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
If WN have put those both in refurb, I would have thought two of the three WN Tridents we saw going through refurb at Walsall must be back or due back imminently?
4735 and 4218 are done, they were in at the same time so they must be back, if not, then due back any time now
4735 & 4218 were masked up ready just to be painted, 4581 & 4583 were both still being re-paneled/re-glazed but as you say shouldn't be far off now
Winston, i forgot to mention that 4581 and 4583 are back from the paintshop now but are having repairs done at Park Lane with 4310/11 now in the paintshop
Either 4575 or 4579 will go for paint after 4580 comes back from the paintshop
Yeah 4218 has been back for well over a week now, ... didn't Tony get a photo of it?!
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 19, 2013, 04:50:18 PM
Yeah 4218 has been back for well over a week now, ... didn't Tony get a photo of it?!
Yes, plus I did as well yesterday, but typically it was out of service coming off AM peak on the Bristol Road
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 19, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
Winston, i forgot to mention that 4581 and 4583 are back from the paintshop now but are having repairs done at Park Lane with 4310/11 now in the paintshop
Either 4575 or 4579 will go for paint after 4580 comes back from the paintshop
4580 is at Trailways, Bloxwich
Quote from: Tony on November 19, 2013, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 19, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
Winston, i forgot to mention that 4581 and 4583 are back from the paintshop now but are having repairs done at Park Lane with 4310/11 now in the paintshop
Either 4575 or 4579 will go for paint after 4580 comes back from the paintshop
4580 is at Trailways, Bloxwich
Oh ok, Thanks for that info Tony :)
4300 & 1847 are both now back at Perry Barr
4583 back in service after repaint on the 126 today
4581 back in service today (Sunday) after repaint/refurb. Caught it on the 126 (9:20 departure from Wolverhampton)
Is 4575 in the paintshop??
Quote from: Winston on November 24, 2013, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 24, 2013, 08:45:49 PM
Is 4575 in the paintshop??
No, WN's 4310, 4311 & 4580
4580 is the next due back, it should be 4575 or 4579 that goes into the paintshop next, hopefully 4579 as I personally would like 4575 to be the last bus with 126 branding standing
Quote from: Winston on November 24, 2013, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 24, 2013, 08:45:49 PM
Is 4575 in the paintshop??
No, WN's 4310, 4311 & 4580
4580 should be back soon with either 4575 or 4579 (going in for paint.
4581/3 are both back in service
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 23, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
4583 back in service after repaint on the 126 today
27A today
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 25, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 23, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
4583 back in service after repaint on the 126 today
27A today
4581 is on the 126 again! 4581/2/3 seemed to be sticking to the 126 but finally one has seen service on another route since coming back from repaint
4583 will most likley do the 25's and 27's
Two more in from Perry Barr are 1839 & 4263
At last, 4263 was a right mess.
4300. Out on the 94 today
Quote from: The Real 4778 on November 26, 2013, 06:22:44 PM
At last, 4263 was a right mess.
Have you been on 4284 lately? That needs prioritising.
Quote from: andy on November 27, 2013, 12:57:32 PM
Have you been on 4284 lately? That needs prioritising.
It looks smart from the outside, but the inside must not match it's exterior appearance. 4284 is one I've not been on in a while to see its condition inside
1801 is back from Refurb out on the 17 today
4430 has got refurbished in a tablet device livery seen on 60 at Sheldon 1510 to birmingham
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 27, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
4430 has got refurbished in a tablet device livery seen on 60 at Sheldon 1510 to birmingham
That is not a refurbishment lol, it's a vinyl wrap advert
Quote from: John on November 27, 2013, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: andy on November 27, 2013, 12:57:32 PM
Have you been on 4284 lately? That needs prioritising.
It looks smart from the outside, but the inside must not match it's exterior appearance. 4284 is one I've not been on in a while to see its condition inside
It's absolutely shocking inside, the worst I've seen.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 27, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 27, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
4430 has got refurbished in a tablet device livery seen on 60 at Sheldon 1510 to birmingham
That is not a refurbishment lol, it's a vinyl wrap advert
4430 or 4432?
4432 has the vinyl wrap, 4430s seats were at Miller Street
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
I should see it tomorrow if its out on the 952 again, did you get a pic Nathan?
Quote from: John on November 29, 2013, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
I should see it tomorrow if its out on the 952 again, did you get a pic Nathan?
Unfortunately not, passed it twice on the Dual Carriageway
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: John on November 29, 2013, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
I should see it tomorrow if its out on the 952 again, did you get a pic Nathan?
Unfortunately not, passed it twice on the Dual Carriageway
I will put my camera in the car when I go to work tomorrow, hopefully I will see it sometime. Nice to see it back out anyway, was looking for it in Tuesday, but can not have been ready to re-enter service then ;)
Quote from: John on November 29, 2013, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
I should see it tomorrow if its out on the 952 again, did you get a pic Nathan?
Saw that earlier today. Didn't post it as looking at the dirt already gathered on it i thought it had been back for a bit
Must be on the back then (:, as that's the only part of the bus I didn't see. Need to get a picture while it still looks new (: saying that seen 4733 today on X51 I think it was, still looks fairly new
1847 appears to have lost its leather seats. On 952.
Just seen it leave town, still got the high back seats but now fabric :(, shame they took the leather seats off
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
Not the best, but the 936 was behind an wanted to go home
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11136273554/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
Not the best, but the 936 was behind an wanted to go home
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11136273554/
I never saw it all day, too busy working! Managed to get a glimpse while waiting at the lights at Tower Hill around 6.15 tonight
Quote from: John on November 30, 2013, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
1847 - looking smart, on the 952 today.
Not the best, but the 936 was behind an wanted to go home
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11136273554/
I never saw it all day, too busy working! Managed to get a glimpse while waiting at the lights at Tower Hill around 6.15 tonight
;) I know the feeling, But does look very smart, wonder if the other leathers are going to receive the same treatment?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 07:09:36 PM
;) I know the feeling, But does look very smart, wonder if the other leathers are going to receive the same treatment?
Most certainty, but I would think the remaining 'Toothpaste' OmniLinks may be done first
Saw PB Scania 1847 today on route 952 which has been repainted into latest livery and had it's leather seats replaced with traditional seats.
Are the others having the same treatment?
Same happened with 4776 when it was repainted/refurbed- Lost its leather seats for Grey fabric moquette but retained the high back seats
Hope the call for refurb comes shortly for 4199 and 4351, they do really look a disgrace.
And the WN mercs ;)
Quote from: Jack2001 on November 30, 2013, 10:12:58 PM
And the WN mercs ;)
There is not much point refurbing any mercs left as they have 6 months-1year left before they will probably be withdrawn
Quote from: Jack2001 on November 30, 2013, 10:12:58 PM
And the WN mercs ;)
I doubt you will see anymore Merc repaints Jack, more & more withdrawls are happening now and i would say by this time next year, very few if any will be remaining.
Shame as im going to miss the mercs
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 30, 2013, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Jack2001 on November 30, 2013, 10:12:58 PM
And the WN mercs ;)
I doubt you will see anymore Merc repaints Jack, more & more withdrawls are happening now and i would say by this time next year, very few if any will be remaining.
I have always wondered how Coventry will lose their O405Ns
Quote from: John on November 30, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 30, 2013, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Jack2001 on November 30, 2013, 10:12:58 PM
And the WN mercs ;)
I doubt you will see anymore Merc repaints Jack, more & more withdrawls are happening now and i would say by this time next year, very few if any will be remaining.
I have always wondered how Coventry will lose their O405Ns
Maybe the new bus orders for 2014 will diosplace some buses for CVs Mercs?
If singles are required surely they would need to be new buses, this would save numerous buses having to pass through the paint shop.
they would probably be new buses. If they are they probably give the Birmingham and black country garages most of them and give Coventry the leftovers knowing NX :-\
Quote from: fleetline6477 on November 30, 2013, 09:18:29 PM
Saw PB Scania 1847 today on route 952 which has been repainted into latest livery and had it's leather seats replaced with traditional seats.
Are the others having the same treatment?
Really this could have been posted in the refurbs thread as this topic is being discussed. Maybe this post could be moved to the refurbs thread to save the need of an extra thread?
4580 now back at Park Lane but will be going for MOT so won't be out in service yet
4559 is having roof repairs (After the incident in Dudley) then will go for repaint/refurb
Saw a Soho Road branded ALX out of service on the Oldbury Road, heading towards Smethwick (may have been 4248), could that be the next ALX to be refurbed
travelled tonight on a recently "refurbed" wn trident. while buses are in workshop for refurbs etc, wouldnt it be an ideal opportunity to fix things such as saloon heating?
Quote from: mranon on December 04, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
travelled tonight on a recently "refurbed" wn trident. while buses are in workshop for refurbs etc, wouldnt it be an ideal opportunity to fix things such as saloon heating?
Which route was it on out of interest?(Sorry for going off topic)
Quote from: mranon on December 04, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
travelled tonight on a recently "refurbed" wn trident. while buses are in workshop for refurbs etc, wouldnt it be an ideal opportunity to fix things such as saloon heating?
I've noticed quite a few WN Tridents with white 'Grayson' stickers on the rear offside corner, not totally sure what Grayson are responsible for?
I've noticed it too on some of the PN Enviro's
A quick google searchs comes up with a company called Grayson Thermal Systems who manufacter cooling systems and products for buses, I can only assume it's the same company?
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
A quick google searchs comes up with a company called Grayson Thermal Systems who manufacter cooling systems and products for buses, I can only assume it's the same company?
I think it must be, it must be engine cooling systems rather than interior
Without going off topic, some of Walsall's Tridents have top notch heating even upstairs
...And the award for Walsall's warmest bus goes to 4329
Quote from: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 11:27:42 PM
Without going off topic, some of Walsall's Tridents have top notch heating even upstairs
...And the award for Walsall's warmest bus goes to 4329
Spectras and B10Ls seem the best for warm saloons in the winter, although the back of a T-reg Merc can get nice and toasty
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 11:48:52 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 11:27:42 PM
Without going off topic, some of Walsall's Tridents have top notch heating even upstairs
...And the award for Walsall's warmest bus goes to 4329
Spectras and B10Ls seem the best for warm saloons in the winter, although the back of a T-reg Merc can get nice and toasty
The T-reg Mercs at PE get a bit too warm for my liking.....
Rule 1, if your catching a Txxx FOB Merc, especially a PE one, sit as near the front as possible, preferably on the seats nearest the driver. If you have no choice but go to the back, sit next to the emergency exit!!! ::) ::) ::)
trident 4609 one was on ur favourite route ;)
4582 - back an out on the 126 today
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 05, 2013, 11:15:28 AM
4582 - back an out on the 126 today
4582 has been back a while now Nath :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 05, 2013, 11:15:28 AM
4582 - back an out on the 126 today
See date
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2013, 08:36:24 PM
4582 now back from repaint/refurb. 4580/1 are next ones in with 4583 already in for paint. Only 4575 and 4579 with 126 branding
Quote from: mranon on December 05, 2013, 10:22:45 AM
trident 4609 one was on ur favourite route ;)
Not my favourite route (If you are refering to the 59) I just live on the route. But my favourite bus was on there yesterday ;)
As Matt stated I reported 4582 back in service back in October. 4580 will be the next one back out in service.
In for paint are 4310/11 and 4559 will go in after repairs
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 05, 2013, 11:44:50 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 05, 2013, 11:15:28 AM
4582 - back an out on the 126 today
4582 has been back a while now Nath :)
Wasn't too sure, it still looks brand new thought it had just came back.
Matt - Next time I shall flick through all pages to find what buses are back and what have gone before I post next time ok!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Cut people some slack you two. Not all of us know everything about everything and not all of us have enough hours in the day to trawl through pages and pages of forum posts. We all make the odd mistake
Quote from: Ashley on December 05, 2013, 07:04:54 PM
Cut people some slack you two. Not all of us know everything about everything and not all of us have enough hours in the day to trawl through pages and pages of forum posts. We all make the odd mistake
You two? no i was just explaining that it been back some time so he knew a normal polite way and i wasn't. being abrupt :)
Sorry mate just read it abit wrong
Quote from: Ashley on December 05, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
Sorry mate just read it abit wrong
Don't worry about it :)
1804 and 4219 now repainted
YW4729 now in for refurb
4729 Seems like a strange choice when they still have tridents in vinyl wrap.
4698, in my opinion, needs newer seats... not necessarily a repaint, but definitely, new seats... ;)
Quote from: John on December 06, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
1804 and 4219 now repainted
YW4729 now in for refurb
Didnt take long for it to go to refurb, hasnt been at YW Long
Quote from: trident4370 on December 06, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
4729 Seems like a strange choice when they still have tridents in vinyl wrap.
Unfortunately all remaining buses in TWM stripes livery look rather tired now. They all need repaints.
There are tridents at YW that need attention much more than the enviros though :/
Quote from: trident4370 on December 07, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
There are tridents at YW that need attention much more than the enviros though :/
When I was in Yardley Wood yesterday the garage was littered with 'off the road' toothpaste enviros. I think there were 5 of them. It's no wonder YW want them all sorted out more than tridents that keep going
Quote from: Tony on December 07, 2013, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on December 07, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
There are tridents at YW that need attention much more than the enviros though :/
When I was in Yardley Wood yesterday the garage was littered with 'off the road' toothpaste enviros. I think there were 5 of them. It's no wonder YW want them all sorted out more than tridents that keep going
It might just be a coincidence and I'm not criticising PB but it just seems strange that when they transferred 4733-37 out to WA earlier this year WA found them to have a few problems and took a while for them to enter service and the same has happened this time round with YW finding issues with the Enviro's
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on December 07, 2013, 08:51:02 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 07, 2013, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on December 07, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
There are tridents at YW that need attention much more than the enviros though :/
When I was in Yardley Wood yesterday the garage was littered with 'off the road' toothpaste enviros. I think there were 5 of them. It's no wonder YW want them all sorted out more than tridents that keep going
It might just be a coincidence and I'm not criticising PB but it just seems strange that when they transferred 4733-37 out to WA earlier this year WA found them to have a few problems and took a while for them to enter service and the same has happened this time round with YW finding issues with the Enviro's
Maybe all the other garages desperately want rid of the toothpaste?
4127 now repainted.
4780 from Perry Barr was in one of the sheds at Walsall this morning by the paintshop. I don't know which shutter is the paintshop, but it was poking out of one of them!
1805 is also been refurbished at the minute
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
4127 now repainted.
4780 from Perry Barr was in one of the sheds at Walsall this morning by the paintshop. I don't know which shutter is the paintshop, but it was poking out of one of them!
1805 is also been refurbished at the minute
i didn't even realise 4127 was in for repaint
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 09, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
4127 now repainted.
4780 from Perry Barr was in one of the sheds at Walsall this morning by the paintshop. I don't know which shutter is the paintshop, but it was poking out of one of them!
1805 is also been refurbished at the minute
i didn't even realise 4127 was in for repaint
I'm pretty sure Tony reported it. I have it logged as in refurb
Quote from: Winston on December 09, 2013, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 09, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:06:16 PM
4127 now repainted.
4780 from Perry Barr was in one of the sheds at Walsall this morning by the paintshop. I don't know which shutter is the paintshop, but it was poking out of one of them!
1805 is also been refurbished at the minute
i didn't even realise 4127 was in for repaint
I'm pretty sure Tony reported it. I have it logged as in refurb
I'm sure it was as well. It has been parked up all day today in the same place with VOR stickers on it, so it should be out later this week
Thanks for that John and Winston :) Must have missed out reading that post :)
4127 out on the late night 301 tonight
More buses in for refurb include 4325; 4351; 4399 & 4780
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
More buses in for refurb include 4325; 4351; 4399 & 4780
About time 4351 was done!
I was right about 4780 been in as I saw it in one of the sheds the other day. Will look nice when done :)
Quote from: John on December 11, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
More buses in for refurb include 4325; 4351; 4399 & 4780
About time 4351 was done!
I was right about 4780 been in as I saw it in one of the sheds the other day. Will look nice when done :)
I wouldn't be so sure, careless spraying of all its silver at the front and the rear lights no doubt
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 12, 2013, 11:46:06 AM
I wouldn't be so sure, careless spraying of all its silver at the front and the rear lights no doubt
Undoubtedly. Utterly unsympathetic 'livery' treatment of all the manufacturers' styling cues and signature features. And I include all the builders in that - ADL, Wright, Scania, MB, Optare, Plaxton...
4129, 4293, 4314 all being done
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
More buses in for refurb include 4325; 4351; 4399 & 4780
Would have thought 4199 would have gone before 4351?
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2013, 02:31:34 PM
4129, 4293, 4314 all being done
Good to see that 4129 will soon be back.
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Glad to see 4314 getting a refurb at last
4310 may still be a while yet, parked in West Broms workshop, many panels still not replaced.
I only noticed it was a Trident with the rectangle back window, and the HDJ in the numberplate
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Yes it is still rounded. What is that grille for? As it must not be needed if it was not replaced on repair, and the Coventry ones don't have them at all
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Yes it is still rounded. What is that grille for? As it must not be needed if it was not replaced on repair, and the Coventry ones don't have them at all
Hazard a guess something to do with air con, it wouldn't be the air intake as that's on the side.
More to the point reference B7 ALX, what's in that plastic "box" which obscures the nearside of the rear window?
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
I can believe that! I wouldn't really call myself a 'nut', but I haven't wanted to let on. I have not wanted it to get in the way of the job. (it is also not the reason why I applied to drive either)
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
I can believe that! I wouldn't really call myself a 'nut', but I haven't wanted to let on. I have not wanted it to get in the way of the job. (it is also not the reason why I applied to drive either)
It's not so bad now as it used to be. It's amazing how many I see nosing at my website on the driver's internet computers!
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Yes it is still rounded. What is that grille for? As it must not be needed if it was not replaced on repair, and the Coventry ones don't have them at all
Hazard a guess something to do with air con, it wouldn't be the air intake as that's on the side.
More to the point reference B7 ALX, what's in that plastic "box" which obscures the nearside of the rear window?
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
L.S,
Anyone that finds out your a bus nut tends to rip the sh*t out of you in my experience, these days I tend to keep it to myself!
Quote from: Winston on December 12, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Yes it is still rounded. What is that grille for? As it must not be needed if it was not replaced on repair, and the Coventry ones don't have them at all
Hazard a guess something to do with air con, it wouldn't be the air intake as that's on the side.
More to the point reference B7 ALX, what's in that plastic "box" which obscures the nearside of the rear window?
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
L.S,
Anyone that finds out your a bus nut tends to rip the sh*t out of you in my experience, these days I tend to keep it to myself!
I dunno, I'm regularly posting bus/train related stuff on Facebook, and no one has really ripped it out of me for it, yeah people have said I'm weird but I admit that. Suppose it depends who you tell, if they're already friends or even just colleagues who know you a bit then they accept it more than telling strangers
Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2013, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: Winston on December 12, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I've noticed that 4234 no longer has a rear grill after it's refurb, the rear now looks identical to Coventry's ALX B7 examples, 4414-4424
Is the rear window still rounded?
Shame most of our buses have lost their original badges fitted at manufacturing.
Yes it is still rounded. What is that grille for? As it must not be needed if it was not replaced on repair, and the Coventry ones don't have them at all
Hazard a guess something to do with air con, it wouldn't be the air intake as that's on the side.
More to the point reference B7 ALX, what's in that plastic "box" which obscures the nearside of the rear window?
Oh and John, don't tell other drivers you're a bus nut, they'll rip the sh*t out of you.
L.S,
Anyone that finds out your a bus nut tends to rip the sh*t out of you in my experience, these days I tend to keep it to myself!
I dunno, I'm regularly posting bus/train related stuff on Facebook, and no one has really ripped it out of me for it, yeah people have said I'm weird but I admit that. Suppose it depends who you tell, if they're already friends or even just colleagues who know you a bit then they accept it more than telling strangers
I just get "your website earns how much in advertising?"
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
Also has anyone seen 4169 since it came back from refurb?
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 12, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
Also has anyone seen 4169 since it came back from refurb?
I think they're both back, Tony has since reported 4293 as in refurb and 4296 was also spotted parked up at WA this week
Without taking the topic over...
I set up a second Facebook account just for transport related stuff because people who've grown up with me know I'm a nut but I still wouldn't want to fill up their screens with waffle. In the same way I avoid telling people about the hobby. If I say I'm a photographer I'm still being half honest I suppose :D
1792 in for refurb now
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
My bad, thanks anyway. 😊
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
Not sure if I have mentioned 4139, but that is being done now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11367442123/in/photostream/
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
My bad, thanks anyway. 😊
Have NX run out of leather? Or have they just got bored with it? Only two possible reasons I can think of for them doing this cause they've done of PBs omnilinks as well haven't they?
Quote from: Kevin on December 15, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
My bad, thanks anyway. 😊
Have NX run out of leather? Or have they just got bored with it? Only two possible reasons I can think of for them doing this cause they've done of PBs omnilinks as well haven't they?
Yes, 1847 was refurbished in the grey dot moquette he same as 4776
Quote from: Kevin on December 15, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
My bad, thanks anyway. 😊
Have NX run out of leather? Or have they just got bored with it? Only two possible reasons I can think of for them doing this cause they've done of PBs omnilinks as well haven't they?
Or run out of cows!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 15, 2013, 07:07:24 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 15, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
I am not sure if this has been mentioned but I notice that 4776 no longer has leather seats. It has the grey dotted moquette(sp?).
Might be expensive to repair if damaged and allows
The vechile to be allocated to any route
Was done some time ago P419 EJW :)
My bad, thanks anyway. 😊
Have NX run out of leather? Or have they just got bored with it? Only two possible reasons I can think of for them doing this cause they've done of PBs omnilinks as well haven't they?
Or run out of cows!
Finally 4618 BX54XSF is in Walsall paint shop
Quote from: Rainman13 on December 15, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
Finally 4618 BX54XSF is in Walsall paint shop
4618 has needed a refurb for quite a while imo.
1802 & 4263 now back out on the 17 & 65 Respectively
Quote from: John on December 06, 2013, 04:18:10 PM
YW4729 now in for refurb
4729 drove round to the paint shop today from the refurb area of Walsall
4129 and 4311 both now repainted
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
might be wrong but I think it was 4139 repainted and out on the 45/7 today
4139 has been in service for at least a week
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
might be wrong but I think it was 4139 repainted and out on the 45/7 today
Yes it is, I saw it last Saturday on the 97
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
might be wrong but I think it was 4139 repainted and out on the 45/7 today
Don't you lot read anything I post? I reported that a while ago. Might as well talk to myself. Pffft
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
might be wrong but I think it was 4139 repainted and out on the 45/7 today
Don't you lot read anything I post? I reported that a while ago. Might as well talk to myself. Pffft
Not everybody has the time to read every page or post though LS
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
might be wrong but I think it was 4139 repainted and out on the 45/7 today
Don't you lot read anything I post? I reported that a while ago. Might as well talk to myself. Pffft
Not everybody has the time to read every page or post though LS
When you haven't been on the forum for a while, and many new posts are made, there'll be a 'new' button next to the title of each thread. Click that and I'll take you to the oldest new post on there, so you'll never miss a beat. Especially on an important topic like this. And I hardly think you're in a position to take the moral high ground.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 03:59:11 PM
..... in a position to take the moral high ground.
...anyone wishing to take the high ground is encouraged to use service 997 over the Beacon...
Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 20, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 03:59:11 PM
..... in a position to take the moral high ground.
...anyone wishing to take the high ground is encouraged to use service 997 over the Beacon...
Brilliant..... PMSL right here
Quote from: Kevin on December 21, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 20, 2013, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 03:59:11 PM
..... in a position to take the moral high ground.
...anyone wishing to take the high ground is encouraged to use service 997 over the Beacon...
Brilliant..... PMSL right here
Hope you're not on a bus seat....
Quote from: Tony on November 28, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
4430s seats were at Miller Street
4430 now back out refurbished on the Bristol Road today. Missed a pic because of the awful traffic >:(
When is 4383 ever going to get a full (and properly doing) refurb? Today, I was waiting for 3 - Acocks Green, 4383 arrived. The bus was an eyesore. The paint was peeling off on the left side, near the doors and under the front window. You could see a bit of white on the top of the left headlight. The "4383" is still TWM font and blue colour - did not bother to cover it and re-write it in white colour. The bus looked terrible. The red colour wasn't the same as others. Just shocking how NXWM can just let the bus go out in that state.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 21, 2013, 07:06:57 PM
When is 4383 ever going to get a full (and properly doing) refurb? Today, I was waiting for 3 - Acocks Green, 4383 arrived. The bus was an eyesore. The paint was peeling off on the left side, near the doors and under the front window. You could see a bit of white on the top of the left headlight. The "4383" is still TWM font and blue colour - did not bother to cover it and re-write it in white colour. The bus looked terrible. The red colour wasn't the same as others. Just shocking how NXWM can just let the bus go out in that state.
It's not paint peeling off, it was re-vinyled in NXWM colours, hence the 'cutouts' over the existing fleetnumbers.
Is that one of the tridents with NXWM Vinyls?
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 21, 2013, 07:06:57 PM
When is 4383 ever going to get a full (and properly doing) refurb? Today, I was waiting for 3 - Acocks Green, 4383 arrived. The bus was an eyesore. The paint was peeling off on the left side, near the doors and under the front window. You could see a bit of white on the top of the left headlight. The "4383" is still TWM font and blue colour - did not bother to cover it and re-write it in white colour. The bus looked terrible. The red colour wasn't the same as others. Just shocking how NXWM can just let the bus go out in that state.
It is the vinyl wrap livery, not a proper repaint (after wearing iPod overall ad). That's why the red is more orangey in colour. The remaining ones in this condition are also in as bad a state as 4383
Okay, I understand now. I didn't know it was the vinyl. Thanks for explaining.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 21, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
Okay, I understand now. I didn't know it was the vinyl. Thanks for explaining.
But I quite agree with you Liam - it is a state. Whoever commissioned that to be on the road needs a serious brain scan, to coin the phrase.
PE chose to quickly get 4351 in for refurb ahead of 4199, those vinyl wraps did indeed make the buses look very untidy indeed.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 21, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
PE chose to quickly get 4351 in for refurb ahead of 4199, those vinyl wraps did indeed make the buses look very untidy indeed.
And 4199 still looks extremely smart in TWM livery, because it already had a repaint before the NX livery was introduced. Hopefully the '02' Tridents at Pensnett still in TWM livery get repainted first
I don't know how long 4165 has been back but seen it on the 63 looking very smart indeed.
What was the idea to add rubber wheel arch surrounds to 41xx, 42xx & 43xx series buses of which never originally had them (and not suited to it), and remove them off 44xx & 46xx series of vehicles of which previously had them (which is suited) - a TransBus design feature it seemed.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
I don't know how long 4165 has been back but seen it on the 63 looking very smart indeed.
4165 was done back in August.
Once again, it shows the improvements in the refurbishment standard if they still look recent after 5 months
Quote from: John on December 21, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
I don't know how long 4165 has been back but seen it on the 63 looking very smart indeed.
4165 was done back in August.
Once again, it shows the improvements in the refurbishment standard if they still look recent after 5 months
You're Joe King.
The wheels were still silver. MOT recent most likely then...
Quote from: John on December 21, 2013, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 21, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
PE chose to quickly get 4351 in for refurb ahead of 4199, those vinyl wraps did indeed make the buses look very untidy indeed.
And 4199 still looks extremely smart in TWM livery, because it already had a repaint before the NX livery was introduced. Hopefully the '02' Tridents at Pensnett still in TWM livery get repainted first
I agree, 4199 does look good, although when i saw it the other day it had a dirty black mark down the back like several other PE buses. They do need to teach someone at PE to wash the buses correctly.
4142 in desperate need of regeneration. I'd recommend a re-engine as well. I've been told by my source its an absolute bag of nails... takes an age to accelerate down hill... 15mph max up hill.
Interior is badly worn (I know that for a fact) and so is the cab.
BC only have 5 TWM liveried 41xx Tridents left so a refurb should be on the cards
Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2013, 12:16:27 AM
BC only have 5 TWM liveried 41xx Tridents left so a refurb should be on the cards
And then we say goodbye to the fairly unmemorable Alum Rock branding
Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2013, 12:16:27 AM
BC only have 5 TWM liveried 41xx Tridents left so a refurb should be on the cards
According to Tony's fleetlist, there are 9 left (4140/42/52-53/57/60-61/67/70)
Oh yes, my mistake sorry. Thanks Sayeed :) and yes I agree Matt, the 14 branding and sohi Road branding look more hideous even more so now they stick out like sore thumbs
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 12, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
4290 is now back at West Brom Rob
http://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/11496345116/
Quote from: John on December 22, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 12, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
4290 is now back at West Brom Rob
http://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/11496345116/
Thank You John :) Looks Very Smart
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 22, 2013, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: John on December 22, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 12, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
4290 is now back at West Brom Rob
http://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/11496345116/
Thank You John :) Looks Very Smart
It returned from paint on 28th November
Quote from: uniquicity on December 22, 2013, 03:53:57 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 22, 2013, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: John on December 22, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 12, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned on here have 4290/4298 come back from Refurb as I've still got them listed as being refurbished :) Thanks
4290 is now back at West Brom Rob
http://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/11496345116/
Thank You John :) Looks Very Smart
It returned from paint on 28th November
4298 has been back a while as well. As WB now have at least 4293 in for refurb plus John spotted 4296 parked up by WA paintshop (one for Trailways?)
4311 is back from repaint having repairs at Park Lane
4290 out on the 5 today
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
4290 out on the 5 today
I have been trying to find that since it came back from refurb.
If anybody see's 4311 out today could they let me know which route its on :)
Won't be out today mate.
4780 should be imminent
Quote from: settlerman on December 28, 2013, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
4290 out on the 5 today
I have been trying to find that since it came back from refurb.
I think it may have been taken off. Saw it in the morning while at work, then went to Sutton afterwards, and did not see it
Everytime I saw it, it was out of service seen it once in service, but not seen it since this morning either
1839 and 4327 now repainted, parked in their respective garages.
4142 may have also been done. A new repaint Y-TOH Trident was parked in Central, but too far away to ID it for certain
There is also an O405N having work done in Perry Barr, the front blind box had been removed, so may have been one destined for the training fleet
4575 outside the paintshop today
Quote from: John on January 03, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
4575 outside the paintshop today
4579 is the last one standing in TWM livery/126 branding still clinging in there in service on the 126 today.
There is no sign of 4311 in service yet (Unless someone has spotted it,If so could you let me know :))
4310 should be back soon.
Should 4729 be back soon ? or is it already back :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 05, 2014, 07:20:06 PM
Should 4729 be back soon ? or is it already back :)
I should imagine it won't be long. It went in for paint on the 18th December. It may even be done now
Quote from: John on January 05, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 05, 2014, 07:20:06 PM
Should 4729 be back soon ? or is it already back :)
I should imagine it won't be long. It went in for paint on the 18th December. It may even be done now
There may be a bit of a delay with ones that went in that late in the year as I believe the paintshop shuts down completely during the Xmas break
Quote from: John on January 02, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
4142 may have also been done. A new repaint Y-TOH Trident was parked in Central, but too far away to ID it for certain
I'll keep an eye out for you John :)
Quote from: Rob H on January 05, 2014, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: John on January 02, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
4142 may have also been done. A new repaint Y-TOH Trident was parked in Central, but too far away to ID it for certain
I'll keep an eye out for you John :)
It's not 4142, it was out on the Bristol Rd as recent as Saturday 4th.... still in old livery. I suspect it could have been 4169, but could be wrong.
Also not sure if noted, but 4430 has been repainted / refurbished.
4224 is in desperate need of a refurb, hope this will be the next one to see a refurb.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on January 06, 2014, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: Rob H on January 05, 2014, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: John on January 02, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
4142 may have also been done. A new repaint Y-TOH Trident was parked in Central, but too far away to ID it for certain
I'll keep an eye out for you John :)
It's not 4142, it was out on the Bristol Rd as recent as Saturday 4th.... still in old livery. I suspect it could have been 4169, but could be wrong.
Also not sure if noted, but 4430 has been repainted / refurbished.
Thanks for confirming that. It looked like a brand new repaint
4129 back from Refurb out on the 77 today.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 06, 2014, 10:27:39 AM
4129 back from Refurb out on the 77 today.
Yes had a ride on it ex Sutton 1150hrs
4129 Broke down George fredrick road at 1600 hrs had to be towed back.
Was there a PB Ominilink in for refurb?
4129;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11804993916/
1813; 4125 & 4284 are 3 more being done
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 06, 2014, 07:44:12 PM
Was there a PB Ominilink in for refurb?
1839, now back at Perry Barr, saw it in the garage on Thursday
Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
1813; 4125 & 4284 are 3 more being done
They will earn their wages on 4284!
Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
1813; 4125 & 4284 are 3 more being done
4125 is certainly one that was scruffy externally
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/refurb? If so will it be back soon?
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Did someone mention one of PB's Scania deckers being in for refurb?
Quote from: nx4737 on January 07, 2014, 04:32:31 AM
Did someone mention one of PB's Scania deckers being in for refurb?
Yes 4780 is currently in for refurb :)
4125 is certainly one that was scruffy externally
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Walsall finally making progress on the tridents.
4293 now outside the paintshop waiting to go in.
Plus new repaint 1839 is out on the 28 today
Quote from: John on January 07, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
4493 now outside the paintshop waiting to go in.
Plus new repaint 1839 is out on the 28 today
John,
Don't know if I've missed something or not, but why is 4493 at the paintshop when it hasn't be refurb'd that long ago?
Quote from: Winston on January 07, 2014, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: John on January 07, 2014, 03:52:25 PM
4493 now outside the paintshop waiting to go in.
Plus new repaint 1839 is out on the 28 today
John,
Don't know if I've missed something or not, but why is 4493 at the paintshop when it hasn't be refurb'd that long ago?
Sorry Winston :-[. That should read 4293. Re-panelling is complete, and is ready for repaint.
Once again I should read back what I post :)
4576s seats now at Miller Street
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2014, 06:31:05 PM
4576s seats now at Miller Street
Do you mean 4575 Tony? 4575 is in the paint shop now whereas 4576 was already done a couple of months back
4310 is due back at PL on Friday
4311 should be out either Friday or Monday
Quote from: Nathan on January 08, 2014, 06:09:27 PM
4310 is due back at PL on Friday
4311 should be out either Friday or Monday
4575 has now moved from where it has been parked for the last 3 days, opposite the paintshop. Presume it has gone to the refurb bays now
Quote from: John on January 08, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 08, 2014, 06:09:27 PM
4310 is due back at PL on Friday
4311 should be out either Friday or Monday
4575 has now moved from where it has been parked for the last 3 days, opposite the paintshop. Presume it has gone to the refurb bays now
4579 and 4312 will be the next ones in. 4312 is due to move over to WN soon
4729. Back from refurb on the 35 (: ill upload the pic later
4581 back & on the 126, but I bet someone can tell me its been back a while ::)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 09, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
4581 back & on the 126, but I bet someone can tell me its been back a while ::)
I am assuming it has been back a while as it was reported in the paint shop in November
Quote from: Kiewii on January 09, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 09, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
4581 back & on the 126, but I bet someone can tell me its been back a while ::)
I am assuming it has been back a while as it was reported in the paint shop in November
Yes 4581 has been back a while :)
4698 s now at Miller Street
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 09, 2014, 11:35:53 AM
4729. Back from refurb on the 35 (: ill upload the pic later
Front;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11856018703/
Back;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11856013303/
Quote from: Rob H on January 09, 2014, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on January 09, 2014, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 09, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
4581 back & on the 126, but I bet someone can tell me its been back a while ::)
I am assuming it has been back a while as it was reported in the paint shop in November
Yes 4581 has been back a while :)
It came back sometime in November i think alongside 4583
Glad to hear that 4698 is in for a refurb
4729 does look good as well. Great Pics Nathan :)
4729 looks great, 4730 also appeared to have come back into use yesterday (disappeared for a good 2 weeks since christmas) so now 2 refurbs are out, I wonder which will be next! Am I right in assuming 4698 will return to PB once refurbishment+repaint is completed, I only ask because there is talk 4312 is going/has gone to WN.
Quote from: trident4370 on January 09, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
4729 looks great, 4730 also appeared to have come back into use yesterday (disappeared for a good 2 weeks since christmas) so now 2 refurbs are out, I wonder which will be next! Am I right in assuming 4698 will return to PB once refurbishment+repaint is completed, I only ask because there is talk 4312 is going/has gone to WN.
Yes 4312 will be transfering to WN soon and will be put straight into the paintshop
Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2014, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on January 09, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
4729 looks great, 4730 also appeared to have come back into use yesterday (disappeared for a good 2 weeks since christmas) so now 2 refurbs are out, I wonder which will be next! Am I right in assuming 4698 will return to PB once refurbishment+repaint is completed, I only ask because there is talk 4312 is going/has gone to WN.
Yes 4312 will be transfering to WN soon and will be put straight into the paintshop
Who knows maybe 4698 will replace it, doubtful though!
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
And most of the tridents seemed to be on the 246 today!
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
And most of the tridents seemed to be on the 246 today!
which is where they should be, have noticed the last few days that there don't seem to be so many on the 53.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 11, 2014, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
And most of the tridents seemed to be on the 246 today!
which is where they should be, have noticed the last few days that there don't seem to be so many on the 53.
Why should the TWM liveried ones be on the 246?
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 11, 2014, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
And most of the tridents seemed to be on the 246 today!
which is where they should be, have noticed the last few days that there don't seem to be so many on the 53.
Why should the TWM liveried ones be on the 246?
i meant that is where the Tridents should be.
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: John on January 11, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on January 06, 2014, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 06, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Also one other thing (Sorry for double post) although on a different note
Wasn't 4351 in for repaint/return? If so will it be back soon?
Yes, reported on December 11th. May not be too far away from completion
Now looks a lot better than the awful wrap livery, back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/11886827186/
With 4347 now in refurb in 4351's place, that now leaves 8 in TWM livery at PE
And most of the tridents seemed to be on the 246 today!
Of the two 246's I saw yesterday, both were single deckers 1627 & 2079
Seats for 4347 & 4618 now at Miller Street
CV 4224 heading north on m6 possibly to walsall?
Quote from: pb2012 on January 13, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
CV 4224 heading north on m6 possibly to walsall?
I seen 4224 aswell leaving Coventry about 9:50 this morning while I was on 4209 on the 23 heading into Coventry we'll soon know if its going for refurb :)
Quote from: Tony on January 13, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
Seats for 4347 & 4618 now at Miller Street
Nice to see it being like 2004 on the Pershore yesterday... a lot of TWM livery and 46's on there! Good times.
4310 has been returned but it is being repainted this week so will be back in a few weeks
4311 is back out in service now so if anyone wanted to get any pics or ride it :)
4559 is also back at PL Garage now and may be back in service on Friday
Is anything else from WN in for paint at the moment, only as i mentioned on the WB thread, i saw a Trident (think it was a 51 reg one) in West Bromwich today, it had several new panels (mainly upstairs) and was heading for WB garage.
I thought it was somebody having a joke, but thinking about it maybe not as the destination display was showing WOLVERHAMPTON GARAGE.
4311 was on the 255 on tuesday
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
4311 was on the 255 on tuesday
And 256/7 on wednesday
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 16, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
4311 was on the 255 on tuesday
And 256/7 on wednesday
Appeared to be on the 255 or 256/7 today but failed this morning but now back in service on the 2!
Anyone know which Yardley Wood Tridents still need refurb / repaint. Thanks.
4342 4344 4356 4361 4362 4363 4370 4374 4379 4383 4389 are still in TWM livery so they're YW's top refurb priority
4357 4369 4381 4386 4388 4392 4394 4395 were if I am right only repaint as they're paintjobs are fading badly and the trim isn't in good nick. Whether or not they'll see any more money spent on them would obviously be unclear at the moment
Quote from: Ashley on January 17, 2014, 10:20:52 AM
4342 4344 4356 4361 4362 4363 4370 4374 4379 4383 4389 are still in TWM livery so they're YW's top refurb priority
4357 4369 4381 4386 4388 4392 4394 4395 were if I am right only repaint as they're paintjobs are fading badly and the trim isn't in good nick. Whether or not they'll see any more money spent on them would obviously be unclear at the moment
4361 has been done Ashley ;)
Quote from: Ashley on January 17, 2014, 10:20:52 AM
4342 4344 4356 4361 4362 4363 4370 4374 4379 4383 4389 are still in TWM livery so they're YW's top refurb priority
4357 4369 4381 4386 4388 4392 4394 4395 were if I am right only repaint as they're paintjobs are fading badly and the trim isn't in good nick. Whether or not they'll see any more money spent on them would obviously be unclear at the moment
Thanks for that, first four buses I saw on the on the 18 today were 1432, 4742, 4093 and a Trident which I've forgot the number of.
4383 is in NXWM livery; although it is only a vinyl wrap around and the interior hasn't been done.
4363 is also vinyl wrapped in NXWM livery
Sorry I forgot to mention the two giftwrapped ones
Quote from: Ashley on January 17, 2014, 07:40:10 PM
Sorry I forgot to mention the two giftwrapped ones
I would still call those 2 a high priority refurb though :D Even more so than the TWM liveried ones
4579 is now in for repaint/refurb alongside 4310 and 4575. End of an era for the 126 branding then :(
Quote from: Nathan on January 16, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 16, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
4311 was on the 255 on tuesday
And 256/7 on wednesday
Appeared to be on the 255 or 256/7 today but failed this morning but now back in service on the 2!
On the 529 today. A pic if some people have not seen it yet
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/12015176584/
I believe 4559 was due back in service today. Did anybody see it out and about today? I saw 4311 several times today on Willenhall Rd and in Wolverhampton Bus Station
4293 now complete. On the 80 today.
Gleaming 4414 reappeared on Coventry 12 during morning peak complete with grey seats.
Quote from: uniquicity on January 21, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
4293 now complete. On the 80 today.
4230 has replaced it in the painshop
The 74 branded once will probably go soon with 4230 being in. For repaint
Quote from: JoNi on January 21, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Gleaming 4414 reappeared on Coventry 12 during morning peak complete with grey seats.
2nd refurb then?
Quote from: uniquicity on January 21, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
4293 now complete. On the 80 today.
It was on the 127-9 yesterday :P. When they refurb the ALXs, what actually gets refurbished? The only noticeable differences on 4293 are the repaint, new seat trim and seat backs
1810 and 4781 also now being done
Quote from: John on January 21, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 21, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Gleaming 4414 reappeared on Coventry 12 during morning peak complete with grey seats.
2nd refurb then?
I thought 4414 had already been done, certainly repainted, if not refurbished.
4310 should arrive back at Park Lane this evening from the paint shop.
4414 has been in service practically every day this year! As well as last year! It was only refurbushed less than 3 years ago! Buses like 4421 and 4405 would be more likely to get a second refurb as they got done over 5 years ago!
4327 is back from Refurb just got off it on the 24
Not sure whether its been mentioned already
Quote from: Rob H on January 23, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
4327 is back from Refurb just got off it on the 24
Not sure whether its been mentioned already
Its been out about a week now Rob, I should have mentioned it but it slipped my mind.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on January 23, 2014, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Rob H on January 23, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
4327 is back from Refurb just got off it on the 24
Not sure whether its been mentioned already
Its been out about a week now Rob, I should have mentioned it but it slipped my mind.
Ok Thank You for telling me I only seen it for the first time today since refurb :)
4559 has been out for a few days now. Not long caught it home on WN59
Also 4310 is back at Park Lane now and 4312 is in for repaint/refurb
4310 returned to Walsall from Park Lane on trade plates around midday yesterday. Not sure why
If on trade plates no mot
Quote from: Ashley on January 23, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
4310 returned to Walsall from Park Lane on trade plates around midday yesterday. Not sure why
As Karl said it needs to go through MOT first then it will return to service so won't be in service for a little bit
saw 4312 monday being attended to by engineers. not seen it out since
Quote from: mranon on January 23, 2014, 08:07:29 PM
saw 4312 monday being attended to by engineers. not seen it out since
You won't see it now for some time because it has gone to Walsall for repaint/refurb :)
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 23, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
4310 returned to Walsall from Park Lane on trade plates around midday yesterday. Not sure why
As Karl said it needs to go through MOT first then it will return to service so won't be in service for a little bit
Not 4310 mate it was at the steam cleaners all day in Darlaston
Oh ok :) Thanks BN :) Ashley must have saw another bus then or he saw it going somewhere other than PL?
The seats for 4140 have now arrived at Miller Street
Quote from: Tony on January 24, 2014, 02:25:52 PM
The seats for 4140 have now arrived at Miller Street
I only seen 4140 on the 60 the other day :)
Coventry 4399 seems to have re-entered service, looking smart even in the afternoon rain.
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2013, 05:35:59 PM
More buses in for refurb include 4325; 4351; 4399 & 4780
4325 back out on the 97 today
WN trident back on the 126
Any idea when 4328 is due? 4365 in need too.
Still a pleasure of 2002 throwback!!
Quote from: Dylan4579 on January 24, 2014, 06:55:43 PM
WN trident back on the 126
Most likely 4559 which has been out since Mon Or Tues
1808 has been done; this one has retained its 55 branding after repaint
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
1808 has been done; this one has retained its 55 branding after repaint
1810 & 1813 may retain their 55 branding if 1808 has :)
Quote from: Rob H on January 25, 2014, 03:21:20 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
1808 has been done; this one has retained its 55 branding after repaint
1810 & 1813 may retain their 55 branding if 1808 has :)
1813 also out today, repainted and still branded.
1808 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/12136894603/in/photostream/
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
1808 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/12136894603/in/photostream/
The 55 branding looks a lot better with the NX livery, than the 'Toothpaste' livery
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
1808 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/12136894603/in/photostream/
Doesn't look quite right in the pale blue, would look better if the '55' was in white, same as on the 4 and 37
4559 was on 255s yesterday which may get one or two people excited
Quote from: Ashley on January 26, 2014, 10:27:01 AM
4559 was on 255s yesterday which may get one or two people excited
Oooh 4559 ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Ashley on January 26, 2014, 10:27:01 AM
4559 was on 255s yesterday which may get one or two people excited
One of the worst tridents we have! ;)
Quote from: Stu on January 25, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
1808 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/12136894603/in/photostream/
Doesn't look quite right in the pale blue, would look better if the '55' was in white, same as on the 4 and 37
Actually disagree, I think the red / white / sky blue actually looks great along with tinted glass, one of the better presented NX buses. I think the 4 and 37 branding looks bland in comparison. Hope it can be kept that way. Have to say Bordesley seem to have a decent standard of presentation even on their unrefurbished vehicles.
Quote from: andy on January 27, 2014, 12:32:42 AM
Quote from: Stu on January 25, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on January 25, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
1808 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/12136894603/in/photostream/
Doesn't look quite right in the pale blue, would look better if the '55' was in white, same as on the 4 and 37
Actually disagree, I think the red / white / sky blue actually looks great along with tinted glass, one of the better presented NX buses. I think the 4 and 37 branding looks bland in comparison. Hope it can be kept that way. Have to say Bordesley seem to have a decent standard of presentation even on their unrefurbished vehicles.
BG would do they're located at Head Office.
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Any News on 4618 Tony? :)
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Has anyone seen 1792 back out from refurb? Seems to have been away a while
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Has anyone seen 1792 back out from refurb? Seems to have been away a while
And 1805. They both went in for refurb in the middle of December, as reported on here?
Quote from: uniquicity on January 27, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Has anyone seen 1792 back out from refurb? Seems to have been away a while
And 1805. They both went in for refurb in the middle of December, as reported on here?
I haven't seen either of them yet but I'm looking out for them just in case :)
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Has anyone seen 1792 back out from refurb? Seems to have been away a while
Just photographed it on the 17
Quote from: Winston on January 27, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Has anyone seen 1792 back out from refurb? Seems to have been away a while
I'm sure I saw it last week out on the 8A in Sparkbrook, looked freshly done.
1840 is the latest from PB to go in
Just had 4310 fresh from repaint home on WN59 this evening
Quote from: Rob H on January 27, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Any News on 4618 Tony? :)
Rob - 4618 is out on the Bristol Rd today gleaming, followed by 4619!
1838 is out on the 46 today, fresh from refurb
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 01, 2014, 04:38:27 PM
Quote from: Rob H on January 27, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
1811 is the latest BY Scania in for refurb
Any News on 4618 Tony? :)
Rob - 4618 is out on the Bristol Rd today gleaming, followed by 4619!
Thank You for the info :) I'll keep an eye out for it next week and try an photograph it :)
Also forgot to mention 1805 is back from Refurb seen it yesterday morning on the 17 while waiting for 4620
4612 refurbished and was on the 24 earlier
Quote from: Sayeed_M on February 03, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
4612 refurbished and was on the 24 earlier
I'll keep an eye out for 4612 aswell as 4618 thought I hadn't seen 4612 for a while :)
Quote from: Rob H on February 03, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on February 03, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
4612 refurbished and was on the 24 earlier
I'll keep an eye out for 4612 aswell as 4618 thought I hadn't seen 4612 for a while :)
4365 is the next BC bus to watch out for, not finished yet though.
Quote from: Tony on February 03, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: Rob H on February 03, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on February 03, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
4612 refurbished and was on the 24 earlier
I'll keep an eye out for 4612 aswell as 4618 thought I hadn't seen 4612 for a while :)
4365 is the next BC bus to watch out for, not finished yet though.
Thank You for the update Tony :) Looking forward to seeing 4365 when its done
Quote from: Tony on February 03, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
Quote from: Rob H on February 03, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on February 03, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
4612 refurbished and was on the 24 earlier
I'll keep an eye out for 4612 aswell as 4618 thought I hadn't seen 4612 for a while :)
4365 is the next BC bus to watch out for, not finished yet though.
So it was going to Walsall when John saw it & my source stated work was being done to it at BC, prior to it leaving.
4618 - 59 or has it been back a while ? :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 04, 2014, 12:57:25 PM
4618 - 59 or has it been back a while ? :)
It was reported within the last week Nathan, so still quite recent ;)
Quote from: John on February 04, 2014, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 04, 2014, 12:57:25 PM
4618 - 59 or has it been back a while ? :)
It was reported within the last week Nathan, so still quite recent ;)
Thanks John
4224 now back managed to get a pic of it in Pool Meadow (link is below)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12305013426/
Quote from: Rob H on February 04, 2014, 01:34:37 PM
4224 now back managed to get a pic of it in Pool Meadow (link is below)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12305013426/
Which only leaves 4222 in 'Travel Coventry' livery (Y-TOH Tridents)
4312, 4575, 4579 in from WN at the moment
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
1810 back out today still with 55 branding
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 07, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 07, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
I imagine the focus at BC will then be many of the ex LH tridents which were repainted but not actually refurbed inside.
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 07, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 07, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
I imagine the focus at BC will then be many of the ex LH tridents which were repainted but not actually refurbed inside.
Do you mean the ex LH Tridents from batch 4433-4474? Those that were done during the final couple of months of LH being open
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 07, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 07, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
I imagine the focus at BC will then be many of the ex LH tridents which were repainted but not actually refurbed inside.
Do you mean the ex LH Tridents from batch 4433-4474? Those that were done during the final couple of months of LH being open
Yep the 03 reg ones that were done, as you say, when LH was still open, towards the end. Some of these are starting to look a bit scrappy now. The thing with the Y reg ones that would make them look a lot better is if they repainted the fiberglass mouldings around the upper deck front window, as some of these look incredibly messy. To be fair, with presidents they repainted far far more of the interior than with the tridents...
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
4296 and 4314 are taking a while though....
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 07, 2014, 01:57:55 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 07, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 07, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
1824 & 4328 are the latest to have their seats sent to Miller Street
Gosh, BC are certainly getting through their refurbs quick.
Just 4140, 4142, 4152, 4153, 4157, 4160, 4161, 4167, 4170,
4316,
4429, 4432,
4611, 4613, 4615, 4625, 4626, 4627, 4629 left!
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
I imagine the focus at BC will then be many of the ex LH tridents which were repainted but not actually refurbed inside.
Do you mean the ex LH Tridents from batch 4433-4474? Those that were done during the final couple of months of LH being open
Yep the 03 reg ones that were done, as you say, when LH was still open, towards the end. Some of these are starting to look a bit scrappy now. The thing with the Y reg ones that would make them look a lot better is if they repainted the fiberglass mouldings around the upper deck front window, as some of these look incredibly messy. To be fair, with presidents they repainted far far more of the interior than with the tridents...
All the 03 plate Tridents refurb'd at that time were also re-trimmed in the TWM dark blue moquette, I agree the external paintwork on some of those could now do with being done again. But the TWM liveried examples will take priority before those get re-painted again. Only 4470 has been refurbished as it was done with the full connector bars some years ago
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 01:58:41 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 01:42:07 PM
The paintshop seem to be turning around the refurbs even quicker than they were before. I assume TWM livery will be well gone before 2014 is out at the current refurb rate / once any new buses start to arriving
4296 and 4314 are taking a while though....
4296 has probably been back ages, you just haven't noticed it....... :P
Guilty as charged Winston :p
I have 197 buses left that are still in TWM / Travel Coventry / toothpaste. 6 of these are ALX200 and 28 are Mercs. I assume these won't get painted again so that leaves 163 to do (plus the few that are left in the NXWM wrap abomination).
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:30:43 PM
Guilty as charged Winston :p
I have 197 buses left that are still in TWM / Travel Coventry / toothpaste. 6 of these are ALX200 and 28 are Mercs. I assume these won't get painted again so that leaves 163 to do (plus the few that are left in the NXWM wrap abomination).
Is that 163 with the wraps?
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:30:43 PM
Guilty as charged Winston :p
I have 197 buses left that are still in TWM / Travel Coventry / toothpaste. 6 of these are ALX200 and 28 are Mercs. I assume these won't get painted again so that leaves 163 to do (plus the few that are left in the NXWM wrap abomination).
Has 4296 just driven past the end of your nose then? :P
Does anyone keep a log of how many buses the paintshop are generally churning out on average per month?
163 without the wraps.
Nope, didn't see 4296 on my way home tonight
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
163 without the wraps.
Nope, didn't see 4296 on my way home tonight
I think there are now only 2 with the wraps, both at Yardley Wood (4363 and 4383)
Quote from: John on February 07, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
163 without the wraps.
Nope, didn't see 4296 on my way home tonight
I think there are now only 2 with the wraps, both at Yardley Wood (4363 and 4383)
4259 still has it as well I think? The front is NXWM but it now has an allover ad covering the wrap.
(Must stop talking about wraps; making my hungry)
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
163 without the wraps.
Nope, didn't see 4296 on my way home tonight
I think there are now only 2 with the wraps, both at Yardley Wood (4363 and 4383)
4259 still has it as well I think? The front is NXWM but it now has an allover ad covering the wrap.
(Must stop talking about wraps; making my hungry)
;D
Yes 4259 is still like that, hopefully it will go off for refurb soon
Quote from: John on February 07, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2014, 05:45:07 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
163 without the wraps.
Nope, didn't see 4296 on my way home tonight
I think there are now only 2 with the wraps, both at Yardley Wood (4363 and 4383)
4259 still has it as well I think? The front is NXWM but it now has an allover ad covering the wrap.
(Must stop talking about wraps; making my hungry)
;D
Yes 4259 is still like that, hopefully it will go off for refurb soon
4259 won't be seen in the wrap livery again, as it was removed (apart from the front) to apply the advert.
4269s was another set of seats to arrive at Miller Street after I posted the other pair
To be fair 4363 and 4383 are fine; they look presentable although in areas it looks slightly scruffy.
4125 done
Give it a week
Quote from: lynx1103 on February 07, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Give it a week
Thanks :) I'll keep my eye out on the 40/89
Latest sets of seats to arive at Miller Street for retrim belong to 4305 & 4383
Quote from: Tony on February 10, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
Latest sets of seats to arive at Miller Street for retrim belong to 4305 & 4383
That just leaves 4363 left in the vinyl livery
Looking forward to seeing 4363 and 4383 refurbed; will be interesting if 4363 will have the graffiti on the front left removed as that has been there ages now.
About time 4383 is about to be refurbed. An absolute eyesore since I last saw.
In fairness 4363 isn't (or at least wasn't last time I saw it) half as bad as 4383 so that one might escape refurb a bit longer maybe.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 21, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: John on January 21, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 21, 2014, 01:37:44 PM
Gleaming 4414 reappeared on Coventry 12 during morning peak complete with grey seats.
2nd refurb then?
I thought 4414 had already been done, certainly repainted, if not refurbished.
4414 has not been repainted again. Maybe just the seats have been refurbished
4125;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12501417184/
4781 and 4698 now complete both parked in garage today
One of the WN tridents in for repaint (Pretty sure it is 4575) was due to arrive back at Park Lane tonight)
Quote from: Nathan on February 13, 2014, 11:19:19 PM
One of the WN tridents in for repaint (Pretty sure it is 4575) was due to arrive back at Park Lane tonight)
It is infact 4575 that is back from repaint. May even be out tommorow incase anyone wants a photo or a ride
Is 4698 gonna leave PB being the only 1st version enviro with different dashboard layout
Compared to 48xx/49xx enviro
Quote from: lynx1103 on February 14, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
Is 4698 gonna leave PB being the only 1st version enviro with different dashboard layout
Compared to 48xx/49xx enviro
I think its staying at PB :) Unless something has changed :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 14, 2014, 10:33:51 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on February 14, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
Is 4698 gonna leave PB being the only 1st version enviro with different dashboard layout
Compared to 48xx/49xx enviro
I think its staying at PB :) Unless something has changed :)
It was out on the 952 this afternoon, so is at Perry Barr now anyway. Is there much difference in the layout of the dash on 4698 as I have not seen the dash of it yet
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
I presume people are going to go mental because of this thing being painted?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
I presume people are going to go mental because of this thing being painted?
Much as I like the "toothpaste" livery. This now looks very much improved. Mind you that's all you can say about most refurbishments.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
I presume people are going to go mental because of this thing being painted?
Not me! I'm just glad that they kept the black between the lower and upper windscreens. Looks much better IMHO.
Quote from: Stu on February 15, 2014, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
I presume people are going to go mental because of this thing being painted?
Not me! I'm just glad that they kept the black between the lower and upper windscreens. Looks much better IMHO.
Here's another view, this time the nearside
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4698.html
Quote from: Stu on February 15, 2014, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 06:16:01 PM
4698;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/12544544065/
I presume people are going to go mental because of this thing being painted?
Not me! I'm just glad that they kept the black between the lower and upper windscreens. Looks much better IMHO.
Oh yeah that's the difference! Been racking my brains' trying to figure out the difference. Cheers Stu.
And here is 4781 named Brian Robinson
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4781.html
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
And here is 4781 named Brian Robinson
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4781.html
Best bus for this livery. Very nice.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
And here is 4781 named Brian Robinson
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4781.html
Best bus for this livery. Very nice.
Definitely, not a huge fan of Scania products but wish NX had more Omnicities now as they are certainly the best suited bus to the current livery by a long way
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
And here is 4781 named Brian Robinson
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4781.html
Best bus for this livery. Very nice.
I agree, the livery suits well on Scania OmniCity buses. I saw 4780 on 907 today and I normally use to see these buses in TWM livery, it was nice to see it in NXWM livery for a change. I personally don't like Scania buses but... The OmniCity buses seems the best.
I think the names should be done in the same style as the new E400s. I find the stuck on vinyls very cheap looking.
May I ask who Brian Robinson was? A former Perry Barr employee?
4314 is now back and is out on the 76 today my mate Jason saw this too
Quote from: Rob H on February 17, 2014, 01:50:49 PM
4314 is now back and is out on the 76 today
On the 18 today, if anyone wants it
4153 still in TWM livery looking very tired and patched up must be the next candidate for refurb I would have thought...
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
4153 still in TWM livery looking very tired and patched up must be the next candidate for refurb I would have thought...
It's the most tatty Trident at BC I would've said. Isn't there paint missing from when they removed branding from it? If I'm right in thinking it had that awful transitional branding and an overall side advert?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 18, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
4153 still in TWM livery looking very tired and patched up must be the next candidate for refurb I would have thought...
It's the most tatty Trident at BC I would've said. Isn't there paint missing from when they removed branding from it? If I'm right in thinking it had that awful transitional branding and an overall side advert?
Yes, it was 14 branded at one time, it had a rear ad and I think a side ad too. Also had a front end repair from an accident.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 10:33:54 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 18, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
4153 still in TWM livery looking very tired and patched up must be the next candidate for refurb I would have thought...
It's the most tatty Trident at BC I would've said. Isn't there paint missing from when they removed branding from it? If I'm right in thinking it had that awful transitional branding and an overall side advert?
Yes, it was 14 branded at one time, it had a rear ad and I think a side ad too. Also had a front end repair from an accident.
And after the repair the front was painted with a fresh lick of TWM livery.. I remember that!
Am I the only one who doesn't like the Omnicities in NX livery. 4698 looks great though
4399 freshly repainted and out on the 13 today.
4575 back out now. Just caught it on the 126 so left Moor St 5 minutes ago
4579 also out today.
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 18, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't like the Omnicities in NX livery. 4698 looks great though
Personally, I have mixed emotions about it. They suit it perfectly! As does the Omnilinks, but I do think that if NXWM had more, they could retain one or two in the original livery... But I'd also agree with a previous statement. Had they put Brian Robinsons' name at the front of the bus. It would've presented the bus a very well suited livery. In all honesty, I love the scania fleet. But it does seem a bit too small at the back of the bus, downstairs... :/
4258 now in
Not sure if mentioned, but 4293 looking very fresh and gleaming in the winter sun at the markets today on the 80.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 09:02:05 PM
Not sure if mentioned, but 4293 looking very fresh and gleaming in the winter sun at the markets today on the 80.
It has been back for a couple of weeks now. 4296 is one to look for.
Quote from: uniquicity on February 18, 2014, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 18, 2014, 09:02:05 PM
Not sure if mentioned, but 4293 looking very fresh and gleaming in the winter sun at the markets today on the 80.
It has been back for a couple of weeks now. 4296 is one to look for.
Seats for 4269 are also ready for collection so That one should not be far away
Quote from: Nathan on February 18, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
4575 back out now. Just caught it on the 126 so left Moor St 5 minutes ago
Here's 4575 back out on the 126 today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/12619680153/
Has anyone seen 4579 out today? If so could you possibly tell me which route its on?
Thanks
Nathan
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2014, 11:21:34 AM
Has anyone seen 4579 out today? If so could you ****ibly tell me which route its on?
Thanks
Nathan
"Forcibly" ?
No. Possibly. He mis-spelt it - p i s s ibly.
4579 on the 126 yesterday - how long has this been back?
4170 from BC & 4555 from WN are the latest
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
4579 on the 126 yesterday - how long has this been back?
First day out yesterday. Does anyone else know where it is today :)
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
4579 on the 126 yesterday - how long has this been back?
First day out yesterday. Does anyone else know where it is today :)
I had the pleasure of 4579 for my 256 journey this evening, a lovely bus
1840 now out refurbished. Parked at Dyas Road terminus as I went the other way
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2014, 11:40:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2014, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
4579 on the 126 yesterday - how long has this been back?
First day out yesterday. Does anyone else know where it is today :)
I had the pleasure of 4579 for my 256 journey this evening, a lovely bus
It is indeed. Back on 126's again today
It went out Tuesday night.
4569 is now in for repaint. 4312 is not back from repaint at present so should be back soon i would imagine?
Any news on 4222? Haven't seen it for a while, and it was the last Y trident in TC livery!
Somebody has said to me 4222 and 4398 are away for refurb but personally not sure of how genuine the info is
Quote from: Ashley on February 23, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Somebody has said to me 4222 and 4398 are away for refurb but personally not sure of how genuine the info is
4398 definately isn't, saw that in service yesterday in Travel Coventry livery
Quote from: Tony on February 23, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Quote from: Ashley on February 23, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Somebody has said to me 4222 and 4398 are away for refurb but personally not sure of how genuine the info is
4398 definately isn't, saw that in service yesterday in Travel Coventry livery
I had a feeling it wasn't true. Thanks for confirming
Quote from: Ashley on February 23, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 23, 2014, 09:43:55 AM
Quote from: Ashley on February 23, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Somebody has said to me 4222 and 4398 are away for refurb but personally not sure of how genuine the info is
4398 definately isn't, saw that in service yesterday in Travel Coventry livery
I had a feeling it wasn't true. Thanks for confirming
Yeah I had a feeling that wasn't true either. Seeing as if two were away for refurb at the same time, it would cause issues with a shortage of double deckers surely?
And the person that told me i told them that i seen 4398 this week in tc livery!
However I do think 4222 has gone for a refurb, as I have not seen it for weeks!
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
Hope not, it was given to PE to replace 4816.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 23, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
Hope not, it was given to PE to replace 4816.
2104 recently transferred though
Quote from: Matt on February 23, 2014, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 23, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
Hope not, it was given to PE to replace 4816.
2104 recently transferred though
Am loosing track, wasn't 1633 withdrawn for that?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 23, 2014, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 23, 2014, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 23, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
Hope not, it was given to PE to replace 4816.
2104 recently transferred though
Am loosing track, wasn't 1633 withdrawn for that?
Me too, I don't bother to keep track of what goes in & out so have no idea
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
X96 branding?
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 23, 2014, 11:30:59 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 23, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
2154 outside Walsall paint shop. If this going to be transferred to Coventry?
X96 branding?
Don't they apply the branding at Pensnett?
Increased vehicle requirement at Coventry for routes 8 and 9 in new schedules to account for additional running time when Friargate redevelopment starts.
I always felt like 2154 belonged at CV anyway, it never felt right at PE. There is a gap and batches should be kept together, as that batch was ordered for CV. Maybe they will swap 2154 for 2153?
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
I always felt like 2154 belonged at CV anyway, it never felt right at PE. There is a gap and batches should be kept together, as that batch was ordered for CV. Maybe they will swap 2154 for 2153?
If it was 'ordered for Coventry' How come Wrights painted it red then?
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
I always felt like 2154 belonged at CV anyway, it never felt right at PE. There is a gap and batches should be kept together, as that batch was ordered for CV. Maybe they will swap 2154 for 2153?
If it was 'ordered for Coventry' How come Wrights painted it red then?
I didn't say that it was ordered for Coventry. I'm saying the batch was intended for Coventry, and it was stupid, they could of easily painted 2153 red and transferred it to PE when the rest of the B7's arrived at Coventry, seeing as it was all white at the time, and 2154 could have been painted blue in the first place, rather than waiting 8 months!
1811 now out refurbished
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
I always felt like 2154 belonged at CV anyway, it never felt right at PE. There is a gap and batches should be kept together, as that batch was ordered for CV. Maybe they will swap 2154 for 2153?
If it was 'ordered for Coventry' How come Wrights painted it red then?
I didn't say that it was ordered for Coventry. I'm saying the batch was intended for Coventry, and it was stupid, they could of easily painted 2153 red and transferred it to PE when the rest of the B7's arrived at Coventry, seeing as it was all white at the time, and 2154 could have been painted blue in the first place, rather than waiting 8 months!
So saying 'That batch was ordered for Coventry' is not saying 'it was ordered for Coventry'?
Why would they paint 2153 Red at the time when Wrights had already painted 2154** red as per the order specification?
**
In actual fact Wrights painted the vehicle which should have been 2171 red, but that's another story!
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2014, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 24, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
I always felt like 2154 belonged at CV anyway, it never felt right at PE. There is a gap and batches should be kept together, as that batch was ordered for CV. Maybe they will swap 2154 for 2153?
If it was 'ordered for Coventry' How come Wrights painted it red then?
I didn't say that it was ordered for Coventry. I'm saying the batch was intended for Coventry, and it was stupid, they could of easily painted 2153 red and transferred it to PE when the rest of the B7's arrived at Coventry, seeing as it was all white at the time, and 2154 could have been painted blue in the first place, rather than waiting 8 months!
So saying 'That batch was ordered for Coventry' is not saying 'it was ordered for Coventry'?
Why would they paint 2153 Red at the time when Wrights had already painted 2154** red as per the order specification?
** In actual fact Wrights painted the vehicle which should have been 2171 red, but that's another story!
Big question, is 2154 going to CV?
Not a pensnett bus any more
Seats for 1841; 4170; 4555; 4569 & 4726 all now at Miller Street for retrim
Does PE get 4816 back then??
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 25, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
Does PE get 4816 back then??
No. If I remember correctly, 4816 was involved in a tragic incident last year. It got re-numbered and re-registered. 4816 is now 4799, it is in Yardley Wood.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 25, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 25, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
Does PE get 4816 back then??
No. If I remember correctly, 4816 was involved in a tragic incident last year. It got re-numbered and re-registered. 4816 is now 4799, it is in Yardley Wood.
That would be like transfering 4135 back to WA! (4135 was also involved in a tragic incident)
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 22, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Any news on 4222? Haven't seen it for a while, and it was the last Y trident in TC livery!
It is at Trailways, Bloxwich being refurbished
Quote from: Tony on February 26, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: lauren1993 on February 22, 2014, 07:11:08 PM
Any news on 4222? Haven't seen it for a while, and it was the last Y trident in TC livery!
It is at Trailways, Bloxwich being refurbished
Thanks :)
1822 latest BY Scania for refurb
Spotted 4296 for the first time since refurb. Just left WB for Wednesbury on the 75
Is 4347 completed yet?
Quote from: John on February 27, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Is 4347 completed yet?
No it's still in Walsall paint shop might be another week at least
Also 4199 is in from pensnett garage
4272 is in from west brom garage
1822 is in from bordsley green
4365 is completed ready for delivery back to birmingham central
4230 complete back at west brom garage in The front yard
A Coventry y- toh
And several others no reg's or fleet no'a tho
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 05:39:46 PM
Quote from: John on February 27, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Is 4347 completed yet?
No it's still in Walsall paint shop might be another week at least
Also 4199 is in from pensnett garage
4272 is in from west brom garage
1822 is in from bordsley green
4365 is completed ready for delivery back to birmingham central
4230 complete back at west brom garage in The front yard
A Coventry y- toh
And several others no reg's or fleet no'a tho
Thanks Rainman
The Coventry Y-TOH must be 4222 as it is the last to be repainted out of Travel Coventry livery
WN 4312 should be delivered back to Park Lane next week.I will post next week when its back from refurb
That will be 4168 straight threw to 4224
When 4199 and 4222 are back at their garages
The fleet lists are lookin very red now
How many in total left for refurb repaint
Then
How many from each garage left
Can't be many more then 100 or so now
WN buses in TWM livery
Mercs:
1650,1652,1660,1662,1669,1672,1673,1674,1679,1682,1683,1685
Tridents:
4557,4558,4560,4561,4562,4564,4570,4571,4572,4573,4587,4588,4589,4590,4592,4594,4595 and 4596
I believe the mercs at WN are due to be replaced anyway and there is only a handful of tridents to repaint/refurb now which they are getting through at a rapid pace anyway
The buses currently in the paint shop from WN are:
4312,4555 and 4569
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
That will be 4168 straight threw to 4224
When 4199 and 4222 are back at their garages
The fleet lists are lookin very red now
How many in total left for refurb repaint
Then
How many from each garage left
Can't be many more then 100 or so now
143 I've counted I've taken off the ones that I no are in paint shop
There is more in there
Plus there are sum that go off some where else for repaint refurb
So there could be 10-15 more
There's 26 Mercedes still to be done but is it worth tarting them up if they are gunna
Be withdrawn soon
With the NEW bus deliveries this year that are expected
The Mercedes possibly extinct by 2015 and the 500&600
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
Perry Barr's are
OmniCitys
4697, 4777, 4778, 4779
OmniLinks
1842, 1843
Volvo B7TLs
4241, 4242, 4244, 4246, 4263, 4281
(1841 and 4258 are in for refurb now)
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
That will mean that 4110-4115 might join u up north
To keep the fleet numbers together 4110-4124
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
That will be 4168 straight threw to 4224
When 4199 and 4222 are back at their garages
The fleet lists are lookin very red now
How many in total left for refurb repaint
Then
How many from each garage left
Can't be many more then 100 or so now
143 I've counted I've taken off the ones that I no are in paint shop
There is more in there
Plus there are sum that go off some where else for repaint refurb
So there could be 10-15 more
There's 26 Mercedes still to be done but is it worth tarting them up if they are gunna
Be withdrawn soon
With the NEW bus deliveries this year that are expected
The Mercedes possibly extinct by 2015 and the 500&600
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
The numbers depend on what you're counting, i.e. there are around 180 ish buses still in TWM livery, but there are more than that if you're counting the number of buses which are yet to be refurbished. I.e there are a fair number of early NX liveried buses that never received retrims, mainly those with the full connector bars on, mainly those repainted late 2007 & during 2008
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2014, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
That will be 4168 straight threw to 4224
When 4199 and 4222 are back at their garages
The fleet lists are lookin very red now
How many in total left for refurb repaint
Then
How many from each garage left
Can't be many more then 100 or so now
143 I've counted I've taken off the ones that I no are in paint shop
There is more in there
Plus there are sum that go off some where else for repaint refurb
So there could be 10-15 more
There's 26 Mercedes still to be done but is it worth tarting them up if they are gunna
Be withdrawn soon
With the NEW bus deliveries this year that are expected
The Mercedes possibly extinct by 2015 and the 500&600
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
The numbers depend on what you're counting, i.e. there are around 180 ish buses still in TWM livery, but there are more than that if you're counting the number of buses which are yet to be refurbished. I.e there are a fair number of early NX liveried buses that never received retrims, mainly those with the full connector bars on, mainly those repainted late 2007 & during 2008
The Mercedes are gunna be withdrawn when the new bus arrivals start
With the buses that are in paint shop there is probably less then 130
So by the end of 2014 the rate there completing the refurbed repaints it might be 100% nxwm livery
It's a shame they have decided to do 4199, always liked that one in TWM livery.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 02, 2014, 08:52:33 PM
It's a shame they have decided to do 4199, always liked that one in TWM livery.
I've always liked that one as well
I would have thought Pensnett would have left that one till last, because it was the smartest TWM Trident there (due to having a TWM livery repaint a few years back). All of the 43** in TWM livery have not had a repaint yet
Quote from: John on March 02, 2014, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 02, 2014, 08:52:33 PM
It's a shame they have decided to do 4199, always liked that one in TWM livery.
I've always liked that one as well
I would have thought Pensnett would have left that one till last, because it was the smartest TWM Trident there (due to having a TWM livery repaint a few years back). All of the 43** in TWM livery have not had a repaint yet
It had a pretty smart exterior considering it was in TWM livery but my go the etching on the upstairs windows are awful! Let's hope they replace those windows or put new film on
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
That will mean that 4110-4115 might join u up north
To keep the fleet numbers together 4110-4124
4110 is already at Dundee, came up in October
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
That will mean that 4110-4115 might join u up north
To keep the fleet numbers together 4110-4124
4110 is already at Dundee, came up in October
So 4109 will join u then to make 4109-4124 up north
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 09:16:40 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
That will mean that 4110-4115 might join u up north
To keep the fleet numbers together 4110-4124
4110 is already at Dundee, came up in October
So 4109 will join u then to make 4109-4124 up north
Hope not, 4109 is one of my favourites!
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2014, 09:31:44 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 09:16:40 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on March 02, 2014, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
Is there any more of 4023- 4115 gunna join 4116-4124 up north in Dundee
I would expect so as we still have 6 B10Ls to withdraw, even though the plan was to get rid of them by October 2013.
That will mean that 4110-4115 might join u up north
To keep the fleet numbers together 4110-4124
4110 is already at Dundee, came up in October
So 4109 will join u then to make 4109-4124 up north
Hope not, 4109 is one of my favourites!
Also if 4114 has to move to Dundee its 5 Branding is going to have to be removed first
Thanks for the Gen here earlier in the thread re the current buses in for Refurb.
I too saw 4296 back last week on the 74 in the City Centre looking very smart - 4272 back soon no doubt
So not long before the new livery comes out then.. Lol ;)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on March 03, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
So not long before the new livery comes out then.. Lol ;)
Exactly LS, you know it's coming......
As soon as the fleet are all in one livery, they'll introduce a new one ::)
At Walsall 4305 was the smartest TWM liveried in for refurb now u think last repaint
Was around 2006/2007
Quote from: Liverpool Street on March 03, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
So not long before the new livery comes out then.. Lol ;)
Can't come quick enough; maybe a proper livery with an actual link to the West Midlands for a change, rather than more corporate rubbish. 8)
Like Toothpaste mk2 possibly? :-)
I don't see why dundee really need more deckers. When Jc and I went up to Dundee there were deckers there with empty loads. Surely sending some presidents from West bromwich to Coventry in a swap for Gemini's would make more sense?
According to my freind 4365 was heading to BC after repaint (: behind training coach 9028
4312 should be back at Park Lane from repaint tommorow if all goes well. I will post if i see it in the yard tommorow :)
Two more in are 1843 & 4167
Quote from: Nathan on March 04, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
4312 should be back at Park Lane from repaint tommorow if all goes well. I will post if i see it in the yard tommorow :)
4312 was back at PL about 20:30 last night and was in service today. Came back to garage about 14:00 with a defect
4312 out and about on 25a/c although was seen heading out of park lane around 4ish
Quote from: mranon on March 05, 2014, 04:57:52 PM
4312 out and about on 25a/c although was seen heading out of park lane around 4ish
It may be on the 59 now as i saw a newish painted BP51 parked up in the Bus Station layover about 16:20 with 59 on the display
EDIT: It was put on peak board 59/14 and have just caught it
1841 now refurbished on the 28 today
Here's a poor quality photo of 4312 on the 59:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/12953500503/
I would have got a much better shot but the bus pulled off before i could get another shot :( ;)
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 02, 2014, 05:39:46 PM
Quote from: John on February 27, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Is 4347 completed yet?
No it's still in Walsall paint shop might be another week at least
Now back at Pensnett
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99593182@N08/12971134013/
4312 is on the 255 today incase anybody is looking for it.
Hope that the remaining YW Tridents in TWM Livery are refurbed soon; 4389 is in a right mess now. It's been graffiti attacked very badly on the upper deck towards the rear; even the floor has tags on it. Looks terrible; if one YW bus needs refurbing it's that one.
4328 out on the Bristol Road today in its new livery
Quote from: John on March 08, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
4328 out on the Bristol Road today in its new livery
I'll keep an eye out on the 14/60/70 next week just in case 4328 is on either of them :)
What happened to the offside advert frame on 4312?
Quote from: uniquicity on March 10, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
What happened to the offside advert frame on 4312?
Removed during repaint/return it appears. Looks very smart though without advert frames!
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2014, 07:47:07 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on March 10, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
What happened to the offside advert frame on 4312?
Removed during repaint/return it appears. Looks very smart though without advert frames!
Some are not replaced after accident repairs, 4372 and 4218 were 2 I can think of (both have had an offside frame re-fitted since)
Refurbished 4222 seen being driven around Coventry by engineering staff.
Re - entered service on pm special
772 school bus and a couple of trips to Brownshill Green on 7.
4422 & 4721 now in for refurb
1836; 1843 & a Wolverhampton Trident which I think was 4571 are the latest in for refurb.
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2014, 06:56:11 PM
1836; 1843 & a Wolverhampton Trident which I think was 4571 are the latest in for refurb.
Correct it is 4571. It had repairs done to it after being involved in an RTC at Bilston so has now gone into paintshop
4555,4569 and 4571 are the buses in for repaint from WN at present
Quote from: Nathan on March 14, 2014, 07:32:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2014, 06:56:11 PM
1836; 1843 & a Wolverhampton Trident which I think was 4571 are the latest in for refurb.
Correct it is 4571. It had repairs done to it after being involved in an RTC at Bilston so has now gone into paintshop
4555,4569 and 4571 are the buses in for repaint from WN at present
4555? That's out on the road.
I thought 4555 had gone in which I think is why Nathan said that. So apoligies to BN and Nathan for my error
Quote from: Ashley on March 14, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
I thought 4555 had gone in which I think is why Nathan said that. So apoligies to BN and Nathan for my error
Yes BN 4555. Reported by Tony a few pages back. I haven't seen it in service for a while either. It was also on the bulliten in the engineering office last week.
Just to confirm 4555 has been painted and I think it went out yesterday afternoon 1st time.
Quote from: BN on March 15, 2014, 08:09:28 AM
Just to confirm 4555 has been painted and I think it went out yesterday afternoon 1st time.
Thanks for that :) It has been away for a while so i definetley knew it was in for repaint (Tony said it was in also). Thanks for the update
1830 is now back on the 17 today seen at the radleys this morning at about 07:45 couldn't get a pic as it caught me by surprise it looked like its first or second day back as it was spotless
4557 now in for repaint from WN
4558 will be the next one to go in when 4569 comes back. Also 4555 is now back in service freshly repainted/returned on the 126 today
Quote from: Rob H on March 17, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
1830 is now back on the 17 today seen at the radleys this morning at about 07:45 couldn't get a pic as it caught me by surprise it looked like its first or second day back as it was spotless
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1830.html
Sorry if already mentioned but 4726 now back out refurbed. Looking v.smart on the 35 today, actually looked brand new; shame they can't change those reg plates from 57 reg. They'd pass off as new now.
4305 taking its time to return
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
Also 4569 Is in for repaint/retrim from WN
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
1843 and 4258 are Perry Barr's two in at the minute
Didn't someone mention 4727 was out after repairs still in TWM livery?
Quote from: John on March 18, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
1843 and 4258 are Perry Barr's two in at the minute
Didn't someone mention 4727 was out after repairs still in TWM livery?
4727 was on the 18 today
1836 from Bordesley & 4422 from Coventry asre also being done at the moment
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 09:33:07 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
Also 4569 Is in for repaint/retrim from WN
It has been away for a bit so should be back at WN soon. 4558 will go to the paint shop when 4569 comes back from its repaint/retrim and 4560 will go for repaint when 4571 comes back
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
BC - 4167 & 4170
Quote from: Rob H on March 18, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 18, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
So what's in for repaint at the minute
4272,4305,4344,4348,4557,4571,4721,4727(after rtc repair)
Please add all the others that people no about thanks
BC - 4167 & 4170
4167 is at Trailways (with 1408)
4170 is being done at West Bromwich
Only 16 tridents from WN left to do,They are: 4558,4560,4561,4562,4564,4570,4572,4573,4587,4588,4589,4590,4592,4594,4595 and 4596.
4535,4546,4549,4550,4551,4552 and 4578 are all unrefurbed and are the earlier repaints with Connection bars so these cold be done again?
1843 back out again already with 1842 now at Walsall, so no more toothpaste Omnilinks at PB
4629 from BC also now at Walsall
4569 on its way back to WN tonight all refurbed. Might be out tomorrow afternoon.
1822 also out now, on the 17 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1822.html
(cursing because 1843 caught me out this morning, passing me on Newtown Row when I didn't know it was out)
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2014, 07:37:18 PM
1822 also out now, on the 17 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1822.html
(cursing because 1843 caught me out this morning, passing me on Newtown Row when I didn't know it was out)
You mean the 'super computer' never told you it was back out :o
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2014, 07:37:18 PM
1822 also out now, on the 17 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1822.html
(cursing because 1843 caught me out this morning, passing me on Newtown Row when I didn't know it was out)
1843 is on the 28 today Tony (28-04)
EDIT : And typically, when I have this bus for a trip, my camera decides not to work!
4572 is the next one in from WN after Carlyle have finished with it.
4569 now back out in service. Caught it on the 126 today and was taken back to garage by an engineer on arrival at Wolverhampton Bus Station about 15:25
4305 out today on the 6 looking fab
1700 Walsall
1836 is now back at Bordesley with 1807 at Walsall for refurb
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
1836 is now back at Bordesley with 1807 at Walsall for refurb
I'll keep an eye out for 1836 & 4305 on Thursday at the times I'm in Brum and Walsall :)
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 25, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
4305 out today on the 6 looking fab
1700 Walsall
4269 is now back at WB
4134 from WA
1832 from BY
4267 from WB
are the latest to go in
4258 now back in garage
4269 is on the road for the first time today on the 83s
4348 is back from refurb parked up at Pensnett garage
WB 4267
PE 4352
both now at Walsall for refurb.
Tony, you've already reported that one on the 28th March, Winston
Quote from: Tony on April 03, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
WB 4267
PE 4352
both now at Walsall for refurb.
You've already posted 4267 Tony further up the page ;)
Quote from: Rob H on April 03, 2014, 09:20:25 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 03, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
WB 4267
PE 4352
both now at Walsall for refurb.
You've already posted 4267 Tony further up the page ;)
Ah, forgot WB told me earlier. Its seats have just arrived at Miller Street
Saw 4258 out on the 16 earlier. Looking immaculate.
4294 looked great yesterday on the 48. Not sure when it was done
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 03, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
4294 looked great yesterday on the 48. Not sure when it was done
The recent repaints have been high quality. Another one, 4293, has been back for 1 and a half months and still looks like it is just out the paintshop
Quote from: uniquicity on April 03, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 03, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
4294 looked great yesterday on the 48. Not sure when it was done
The recent repaints have been high quality. Another one, 4293, has been back for 1 and a half months and still looks like it is just out the paintshop
I'm waiting for 4272 to come out of the paintshop, it was a mess before it went in
Quote from: uniquicity on April 03, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 03, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
4294 looked great yesterday on the 48. Not sure when it was done
The recent repaints have been high quality. Another one, 4293, has been back for 1 and a half months and still looks like it is just out the paintshop
4294 was done around last October
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 03, 2014, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 03, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 03, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
4294 looked great yesterday on the 48. Not sure when it was done
The recent repaints have been high quality. Another one, 4293, has been back for 1 and a half months and still looks like it is just out the paintshop
I'm waiting for 4272 to come out of the paintshop, it was a mess before it went in
4272 is back at West Bromwich, don't think it has been out yet
Don't think I have mentioned 4227 now in for refurb
I think I saw 1842 in garage this afternoon refurbished
Is any of 4557,4571 or 4572 back from repaint/refurb?
Quote from: John on April 04, 2014, 09:47:31 PM
I think I saw 1842 in garage this afternoon refurbished
its out on 952 today (:
I saw 4383 (on 2, iirc) in Maypole today, must I say it looked very smart! I was impressed. Last time I saw 4383, it was an eyesore, the vinyl was peeling off. But now it looks refreshed and smart. Took a while for me to finally find 4383 lol.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 05, 2014, 10:54:33 PM
I saw 4383 (on 2, iirc) in Maypole today, must I say it looked very smart! I was impressed. Last time I saw 4383, it was an eyesore, the vinyl was peeling off. But now it looks refreshed and smart. Took a while for me to finally find 4383 lol.
Been on the 49 today. I agree, looks awesome.
Quote from: Rob H on May 13, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
Is 4150 having a refurb and repaint because haven't seen it for a while :)
4725 has joined 4721 at Walsall
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2014, 12:35:09 PM
Quote from: Rob H on May 13, 2012, 09:44:14 PM
Is 4150 having a refurb and repaint because haven't seen it for a while :)
4725 has joined 4721 at Walsall
Remember when 4725 was a Bristol Vrt! (Showing my age!)
I got off the train today, walked down to catch a bus to Miller Street and was greeted by an immaculate 4305 on the 997 today. first time on a Birmingham City Centre route since repaint if anyone is looking for it, out until 19:00
4167, not sure how long its been back? parked outside Selfridges this morning displaying 'SORRY NOT IN SERVICE' not sure if its out on the Coventry Road Routes
Saw 4170 on test in Walsall yesterday about midday so no doubt back soon
Quote from: crepello on April 11, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Saw 4170 on test in Walsall yesterday about midday so no doubt back soon
I'll keep an eye out on the 14/59/60/70/97 next week just in case :)
4161s seats arrived at Miller Street today, so is another one being done
1832 now back at Bordesley, replaced by 1812 now at Walsall
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
1832 now back at Bordesley, replaced by 1812 now at Walsall
Here is 1832 on its first day out after refurb. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/13871324824/
Quote from: Rob H on April 15, 2014, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
1832 now back at Bordesley, replaced by 1812 now at Walsall
Here is 1832 on its first day out after refurb. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/13871324824/
Anybody else bored of Omnilinks?
O45N 1689 arrived at miller street in health buzz livery photo here https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/13872413725/
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 15, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 15, 2014, 02:14:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
1832 now back at Bordesley, replaced by 1812 now at Walsall
Here is 1832 on its first day out after refurb. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/13871324824/
Anybody else bored of Omnilinks?
I quite like them. Think these look smarter now than when the new ones were delivered to Yardley Wood and Acocks Green.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 15, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
Anybody else bored of Omnilinks?
I have never rated them TBH, but I'm amazed at how the livery on these latest has been simplified even more, with branding white over red, and those embarrassing connecting bars dispensed with completely.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 15, 2014, 06:40:16 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 15, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
Anybody else bored of Omnilinks?
I have never rated them TBH, but I'm amazed at how the livery on these latest has been simplified even more, with branding white over red, and those embarrassing connecting bars dispensed with completely.
I'm not their greatest fan, and it annoys me that NX bought Polish built instead of British built buses, but I have to say that the dreadful NX livery looks far better on these and the Omnicity double decks than it does on any other vehicle type in the fleet.
4152 & 4259 now in for refurb
1837 now back at PB
Quote from: Mike K on April 15, 2014, 09:49:16 PM
I'm not their greatest fan, and it annoys me that NX bought Polish built instead of British built buses, but I have to say that the dreadful NX livery looks far better on these and the Omnicity double decks than it does on any other vehicle type in the fleet.
It does sit well on 4777 and sisters, I will admit that.
They're still clean and undented for now, mind you...
4160 now gone for refurb, joining 4152 & 4161, so that only leaves 3 BC ones from the 41xx batch in use (4142/53/7).
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
4160 now gone for refurb, joining 4152 & 4161, so that only leaves 3 BC ones from the 41xx batch in use (4142/53/7).
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
How's 4629's refurb going Tony? :)
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
4160 now gone for refurb, joining 4152 & 4161, so that only leaves 3 BC ones from the 41xx batch in use (4142/53/7).
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
How's 4629's refurb going Tony? :)
I'd forgotton that one, another I need to photograph. It appears to be on Pershore Road today, bur is not showing on the AVL system
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
4160 now gone for refurb, joining 4152 & 4161, so that only leaves 3 BC ones from the 41xx batch in use (4142/53/7).
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
How's 4629's refurb going Tony? :)
I'd forgotton that one, another I need to photograph. It appears to be on Pershore Road today, bur is not showing on the AVL system
I'll keep my eye out for 4629 now its done :)
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
I did have a feeling 1837 was away, as I had not seen it for a while. Saw it this morning, ends the TWM livered OmniLinks at Perry Barr (again!)
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
I'll keep my out for 4629 now its done :)
Keep your
what out ????
Steady.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 17, 2014, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
I'll keep my out for 4629 now its done :)
Keep your what out ????
Steady.
Sorry! It should say "I'll keep my eye out" ;) I do apologize for that. I've amended it now
Quote from: Daniel w on April 17, 2014, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 17, 2014, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
I'll keep my out for 4629 now its done :)
Keep your what out ????
Steady.
Love as you say 😃😃😄😄😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃 the real 4778
Daniel can you please stop putting several emoticons after your posts or use the forum ones as most users are on a desktop so cant see them.
Quote from: Daniel w on April 17, 2014, 08:51:41 PM
Didn't think of that dom
Question the rest of the Twm mercs at wn are they going to be repainted
There will be no point repainting the mercs at WN as they are due to be withdrawn in the summer if we have cascaded tridents from other garages.
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
4160 now gone for refurb, joining 4152 & 4161, so that only leaves 3 BC ones from the 41xx batch in use (4142/53/7).
1837 is now back in use at PB on the 28 today
How's 4629's refurb going Tony? :)
I'd forgotton that one, another I need to photograph. It appears to be on Pershore Road today, bur is not showing on the AVL system
Back in the maintenance bays today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4629.html
Has 4422 returned to Coventry yet?
4571 now back at WN
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :). Want to try and find it :)
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back
at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
You still need photo's of 4566 (Was done a while ago) and 4569 (The last one to come back before 4571) as you still have them down as in TWM livery :)
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back
at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
You still need photo's of 4566 (Was done a while ago) and 4569 (The last one to come back before 4571) as you still have them down as in TWM livery :)
Thanks, I thought I may have missed one or two WN ones
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
I thought it was 1807 thats currently being done Tony :)
The other vehicle at Carlyle may be 'Alanna' aka 4910 as I haven't seen her back yet :)
Quote from: Rob H on April 19, 2014, 09:32:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
I thought it was 1807 thats currently being done Tony :)
The other vehicle at Carlyle may be 'Alanna' aka 4910 as I haven't seen her back yet :)
Rob I agree,
Here's Tony's original post:
1836 is now back at Bordesley with 1807 at Walsall for refurb
Quote from: Winston on April 19, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 19, 2014, 09:32:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
I thought it was 1807 thats currently being done Tony :)
The other vehicle at Carlyle may be 'Alanna' aka 4910 as I haven't seen her back yet :)
Rob I agree,
Here's Tony's original post:
1836 is now back at Bordesley with 1807 at Walsall for refurb
1806 definately at Walsall now, not sure whether first was a mistype or that is done and back at Bordesley
Nathan,
4571 will be out towards the end of the week. There is a bit of work to do on it.
4561 will be going next.
Quote from: BN on April 20, 2014, 11:45:20 AM
Nathan,
4571 will be out towards the end of the week. There is a bit of work to do on it.
4561 will be going next.
Thanks for the update BN :)
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 08:50:25 PM
4344 on its first day back in service http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4344.html
4571 before its first day back in service! http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4571.html
So is 4571 booked out tommorow (Sunday) in service? Nice photo by the way :)
I very much doubt it will be out until mid-week at the earliest. BN may prove me wrong.
I think I am almost up to date with my repaint photos now after getting a bit behind. I think the only ones so far back at their home garages I still have to photograph are
BC 4170
PB 1837; 1843
WN 4579
WA 4127
(unless anyone knows any others on the fleetlists in new livery that are not shaded red!)
Buses I know of currently being done are
BY 1806; 1812 (both at Walsall)
WN 4557 (Carlyle); 4572 (WB)
YW 47212; 4725 (both at Walsall)
CV 4422 (location unknown)
WA 4134 (at Walsall)
BC 4152; 4160 (Walsall); 4161 (Trailways)
PB 4259 (Trailways); 4502 (top deck fire repairs at Carlyle)
WB 4227; 4267 (Walsall)
PN 4352 (West Bromwich)
I think there may be one other vehicle at Carlyle I haven't identified
BC 4430 is in NXWM Livery but not shaded red on the list :)
Two more at Walsall are 4363 & 4778
Quote from: Tony on April 20, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Two more at Walsall are 4363 & 4778
The end of the NXWM Vinyl Livery at YW.
4272 was on the 80 today. Looks great, a complete shadow of it's former self
Did anybody see 4629 today? Or was it still in Garage? :)
Quote from: Tony on April 20, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Two more at Walsall are 4363 & 4778
Thank god... No more shitty vinyl wrapped buses! Gawsh, they did look terrible. Glad to know it's in refurbishment. Will look forward to see it out soon - nice and fresh. :3
Another TWM Scania decker down, but at least they do look very smart with the red and white livery. It suits them perfectly.
4348 back in traffic. Well it's just come off 246's and going back to garage
Quote from: Ashley on April 22, 2014, 07:37:33 PM
4348 back in traffic. Well it's just come off 246's and going back to garage
Been in use over 2 weeks
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4348.html
My mistake. Still looks gleaming so I thought it had just returned.
Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 22, 2014, 07:37:33 PM
4348 back in traffic. Well it's just come off 246's and going back to garage
Been in use over 2 weeks
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4348.html
1806 is currently on its way back to Bordesley, with 1823 replacing it at Walsall for refurb
Quote from: Tony on April 23, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
1806 is currently on its way back to Bordesley, with 1823 replacing it at Walsall for refurb
Tony, does that then mean 1807 being in for refurb was a typo?
Quote from: Tony on April 23, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
1806 is currently on its way back to Bordesley, with 1823 replacing it at Walsall for refurb
I'll look out for it on Friday (if its on the 17) ;)
1823 must have gone straight from service then. I was on that bus at around 5pm.
4134 done out on an X51 PM peak board
Quote from: Winston on April 23, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 23, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
1806 is currently on its way back to Bordesley, with 1823 replacing it at Walsall for refurb
Tony, does that then mean 1807 being in for refurb was a typo?
Not sure!
BY wasted no time in getting 1806 on the road
wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1806.html
1809 is another that has sneeked through without me noticing!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1809.html
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
They've done her refurb quick :)
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
They've done her refurb quick :)
They haven't, he means TWM livery
Quote from: Matt on April 24, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
They've done her refurb quick :)
They haven't, he means TWM livery
Sorry Matt ;) but I have to agree with Stu lets hope her refurb call isn't for some time yet :)
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 24, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
They've done her refurb quick :)
They haven't, he means TWM livery
Sorry Matt ;) but I have to agree with Stu lets hope her refurb call isn't for some time yet :)
No need to apologise. I agree, a part of me thinks it'll be the last one at PN in TWM colours
Quote from: Matt on April 24, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 24, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 24, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2014, 09:05:41 PM
Saw 4199 today in its superb NXWM livery. Lets hope its call for refurb doesn't come for quite a while yet.
They've done her refurb quick :)
They haven't, he means TWM livery
Sorry Matt ;) but I have to agree with Stu lets hope her refurb call isn't for some time yet :)
No need to apologise. I agree, a part of me thinks it'll be the last one at PN in TWM colours
Whoops, haven't got my thinking head on tonight! :-[
I agree 4199 will most likley be the last one in TWM livery at PE. With the 434*'s recently being repainted i think 4349 and 4353 will go in for paint next from PE
4422 STILL hasn't returned!! :o
Carlyle have finished the refurb on 4557 and it is now at Walsall for painting, so shouldn't be too long before it is back at Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on April 25, 2014, 10:41:03 AM
Carlyle have finished the refurb on 4557 and it is now at Walsall for painting, so shouldn't be too long before it is back at Wolverhampton
Thanks for that update Tony :) 4561 is the next one from WN
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 24, 2014, 08:31:27 PM
4134 done out on an X51 PM peak board
On the 934 today, very smart
4557 is being bought back to WN tonight. Swapped with 4558
1807 was done 3 weeks ago!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1807.html
I did venture down Jennens Road and get very wet!
I make it just 27 buses left in service in some form of 'Toothpaste' livery
1814-6/8-21/5/6/8/9/31/4/5 at Bordesley (14)
4697; 4777/9 at Perry Barr (3)
4718-20/2-4/7/8/30/1 (10)
im suprised 4558 wasnt done last year after its front end was repaired
Quote from: Tony on April 25, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
1807 was done 3 weeks ago!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1807.html
I did venture down Jennens Road and get very wet!
I make it just 27 buses left in service in some form of 'Toothpaste' livery
1814-6/8-21/5/6/8/9/31/4/5 at Bordesley (14)
4697; 4777/9 at Perry Barr (3)
4718-20/2-4/7/8/30/1 (10)
4730 is in NXWM Livery Tony and you missed out 4732 which is still in Toothpaste Livery :)
Quote from: mranon on April 25, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
im suprised 4558 wasnt done last year after its front end was repaired
It is still out on the 79 at the moment
4356 is looking desperate for a refurb, it has been tatty for a while anyway, but it has now gained a partial white front bumper too.
I am now up to date on repaints on the main site with the exception of PB1837 & 1843, neither of which ventured out the garage today!
Here is the latest finished WN 4557
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4557.html
Loved the phot......and 4001 there too
4725 now ready to return to Yardley Wood
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4725.html
4126 from Walsall now being done at Walsall
Like the pic looks very smart and clean
I like the way the white on the doors has been repainted red rather than been removed
First '07 reg to be painted. Looks great. Don't agree with painting the bottom of the doors red though
4726 also has red doors so I think it's safe to assume all the BU07s will keep the painted doors, which tbh I quite like! 4719 will be interesting to see repainted...
4557 back out in service today.
Quote from: BN on April 28, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
4557 back out in service today.
4725 back out as well, on the 18 today
Quote from: BN on April 28, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
4557 back out in service today.
Never saw it out today? Wasn't on the allocation sheet either. Did it come out of garage later during the day to replace something?
4625 has now turned up at Walsall, making that 4 BC buses currently in for refurb!
4718's toothpaste days are numbered :(
1837 finally ventured into Birmingham City Centre today on the 66
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1837.html
So I think the main website is now completely up to date with repaints. Any repainted are fully red, any in at the moment have a red fleetnumber & allocation.
I cannot see anything that has left Walsall today, but it will no doubt be out of date again tomorrow!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 29, 2014, 03:05:14 PM
4718's toothpaste days are numbered :(
Not just yet; saw it yesterday still in toothpaste livery; although will be a shame to lose the toothpaste livery on such an excellent bus ;)
When will 4625 come back from wallsal estimated guess Monday?
Quote from: Daniel w on April 30, 2014, 09:38:57 PM
When will 4625 come back from wallsal estimated guess Monday?
If it only got there yesterday, a good few weeks at least
Quote from: Liberator9 on April 30, 2014, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 29, 2014, 03:05:14 PM
4718's toothpaste days are numbered :(
Not just yet; saw it yesterday still in toothpaste livery; although will be a shame to lose the toothpaste livery on such an excellent bus ;)
But it seems that they are getting through YW's Toothpaste livered E400's quite quickly so it won't be long before its 4718's (4718 is one of my favourite E400's and the toothpaste livery is one of the many things i like about that bus!) turn in the paint booth. Shame as i like the toothpaste livery compared to the absoloutley dull/crappy NX livery at present
I'd have thought 4356 will jump the queue for the next repaint from YW.
Might do when it's at pensnett
Quote from: karl724223 on April 30, 2014, 10:26:00 PM
Might do when it's at pensnett
Is it 4355 & 4356 that are coming then Karl?
Aslong as 4362 doesn't go, you are welcome to them!
Back on topic !
Daniel, I'd worry more about the quality of your own posts, rather than what/where others are posting! Winston
2 comments off, keep your knickers on...
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 30, 2014, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on April 30, 2014, 10:26:00 PM
Might do when it's at pensnett
Is it 4355 & 4356 that are coming then Karl?
I would imagine so Stu :) 4354/5/6= 3 Tridents which is the amount PE are to recieve (As you know 4354 has already transfered)
Quote from: Daniel w on April 30, 2014, 10:35:37 PM
Back on topic !
Daniel, I'd worry more about the quality of your own posts, rather than what/where others are posting! Winston
Was just about to post something along those lines. Well said Winston!
Anyway Just to make sure i'm up to date am i right in saying 4558,4561 and 4572 are the Tridents from WN in for refurb at present? Surely 4572 is either already done or near completion?
1812 out on the 55 repainted
Quote from: John on May 02, 2014, 07:14:51 PM
1812 out on the 55 repainted
Replaced at Walsall by 1825, another being done is 4262 at Carlyle
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
another being done is 4262 at Carlyle
I had a feeling it was away, have not seen it for a while in or out of service. Will look a lot smarter with its LEDs
I make it about 100 vehicles still to do (except Mercs and Darts which will probably be replaced soon). At current rate it will take about 8 weeks for all the fleet to be in NX livery. This is about 10 per garage.
Unless I've missed something, I've noticed Coventry 44xx buses don't seem to be being done at the moment??
Quote from: don on May 03, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
I make it about 100 vehicles still to do (except Mercs and Darts which will probably be replaced soon). At current rate it will take about 8 weeks for all the fleet to be in NX livery. This is about 10 per garage.
Unless I've missed something, I've noticed Coventry 44xx buses don't seem to be being done at the moment??
4422 arrived back a couple of days ago. 4402 is possibly being done. I haven't got that one confirmed yet
Quote from: Tony on May 03, 2014, 11:29:01 AM
Quote from: don on May 03, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
I make it about 100 vehicles still to do (except Mercs and Darts which will probably be replaced soon). At current rate it will take about 8 weeks for all the fleet to be in NX livery. This is about 10 per garage.
Unless I've missed something, I've noticed Coventry 44xx buses don't seem to be being done at the moment??
4422 arrived back a couple of days ago. 4402 is possibly being done. I haven't got that one confirmed yet
Thanks Tony. Looks like one at a time for Coventry.
Also a heavily sanded down Trident at Carlyle today. Had the front tree deflector, so probably one of the WN ones.
Quote from: uniquicity on May 03, 2014, 08:05:51 PM
Also a heavily sanded down Trident at Carlyle today. Had the front tree deflector, so probably one of the WN ones.
It will be either 4558/4561 or possibly even 4572 (I would have thought this was near completion though the time it has been gone)
Quote from: Nathan on May 03, 2014, 08:20:47 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on May 03, 2014, 08:05:51 PM
Also a heavily sanded down Trident at Carlyle today. Had the front tree deflector, so probably one of the WN ones.
It will be either 4558/4561 or possibly even 4572 (I would have thought this was near completion though the time it has been gone)
It is 4572 at Carlyle
Did 4572 have accident damage or was that 4571 I'm thinking of? (Or did both 4571/2 sustain accident damage?)
Just 4571
Quote from: Ashley on May 03, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Just 4571
Just remembered i was told that 4572 had accident damage also
Wrong, both of them did.
4267 now back at West Bromwich
4778 now back at Perry Barr and on the 101 this evening; 4779 now at Walsall for refurb
Is 4262 back yet ?
Quote from: Daniel w on May 07, 2014, 08:38:33 PM
Is 4262 back yet ?
4262 has only gone in for refurb recently so may not be back for a while yet. :)
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
Quote from: Tony on May 07, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
No link Tony
Quote from: Tony on May 07, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
Which route was it allocated to tony out of interest ?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 07, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
No link Tony
Here it is Stu:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4267.html
Ps. Just noticed the rare working second photo down
Thanks Nathan
4231 has also now gone to Walsall for refurb
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 07, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
No link Tony
Here it is Stu:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4267.html
Ps. Just noticed the rare working second photo down
Thanks Nathan :) Think Tony thinks it is still 2013!
I've noticed several vehicles that have been repainted recently are missing advert frames on the nearside or/and offside.
4557 and 4134 are ones i've noticed that are missing nearside advert frames.
And 4312 doesn't have an advert frame on the nearside or offside
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:32:49 PM
I've noticed several vehicles that have been repainted recently are missing advert frames on the nearside or/and offside.
4557 and 4134 are ones i've noticed that are missing nearside advert frames.
And 4312 doesn't have an advert frame on the nearside or offside
4267 has lost its nearside frame
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2014, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 07, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 07, 2014, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2014, 10:05:41 PM
4267 now back at West Bromwich
And here it is with very silver wheels on its first day back in service
No link Tony
Here it is Stu:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4267.html
Ps. Just noticed the rare working second photo down
Thanks Nathan :) Think Tony thinks it is still 2013!
corrected
4259 is out on the 952 today. Appears to have replaced a failed OmniLink that broke down in Brum this morning
Plus 4778 is out on 907s today
4728 now at Walsall for refurb.
4572 is freshly repainted, coming back to WN tonight.
Quote from: BN on May 09, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
4572 is freshly repainted, coming back to WN tonight.
Replaced at Walsall by 4560
1814 is also now at Walsall with 1823 back at Bordesley
and just to confirm 4402 is now at Walsall
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2014, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: BN on May 09, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
4572 is freshly repainted, coming back to WN tonight.
Replaced at Walsall by 4560
1814 is also now at Walsall with 1823 back at Bordesley
and just to confirm 4402 is now at Walsall
Cheers for that Tony :) i thought that would be the next one in from WN for repaint/refurb :)
With 4572 back and 4558,4560 and 4561 in for repaint/refurb that leaves 12 tridents left to do from WN. They are:
4562/4/70/3/87/8/9/90/2/4/5/6
NXC 4422 back out refurbished on 10 today.
Quote from: JoNi on May 12, 2014, 07:47:50 AM
NXC 4422 back out refurbished on 10 today.
Thanks, will keep my eyes peeled!
Also I noticed the right side of 4422 has lost the advert frames during refurb!
Quote from: lauren1993 on May 12, 2014, 11:39:02 PM
Also I noticed the right side of 4422 has lost the advert frames during refurb!
As i mentioned further up the thread several buses have lost their advert frames during repaint.
4312 and 4557 are missing advert frames too (4312 on both sides and 4557 on the nearside)
Nathan you've made that point more than once and it doesn't just happen at WN garage. 4134 hasn't got advert frames, 4442, 4338, 4350 to name a few were the same just after refurb
Quote from: Ashley on May 13, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
Nathan you've made that point more than once and it doesn't just happen at WN garage. 4134 hasn't got advert frames, 4442, 4338, 4350 to name a few were the same just after refurb
It all depends whether the panels the advert frames are attached to need replacing. The frames are attached by the advertising company, so if the panels are replaced at refurb the run without the frames until the advertising company replace them
Quote from: Ashley on May 13, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
Nathan you've made that point more than once and it doesn't just happen at WN garage. 4134 hasn't got advert frames, 4442, 4338, 4350 to name a few were the same just after refurb
Yes i am aware Ash :) Just trying to say that 4422 isn't the only one that has lost advert frames so its hardly surprising! ::)
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Ashley on May 13, 2014, 09:14:08 AM
Nathan you've made that point more than once and it doesn't just happen at WN garage. 4134 hasn't got advert frames, 4442, 4338, 4350 to name a few were the same just after refurb
It all depends whether the panels the advert frames are attached to need replacing. The frames are attached by the advertising company, so if the panels are replaced at refurb the run without the frames until the advertising company replace them
Cheers Tony
West Bromwich have finished the refurb on PE4352 and it is now Walsall for painting
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
West Bromwich have finished the refurb on PE4352 and it is now Walsall for painting
Am i missing something, didn't think WB did refurbs? Wonder what has been done, just refubed seat cushions or is it more extensive?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
West Bromwich have finished the refurb on PE4352 and it is now Walsall for painting
Am i missing something, didn't think WB did refurbs? Wonder what has been done, just refubed seat cushions or is it more extensive?
WB Have done refurbs on a number of occasions i.e re-paneling, presume re-glazing where required, it just leaves WA to then paint it. I think one of WN's recent Trident refurbs was done there before 4352
Quote from: Winston on May 13, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
West Bromwich have finished the refurb on PE4352 and it is now Walsall for painting
Am i missing something, didn't think WB did refurbs? Wonder what has been done, just refubed seat cushions or is it more extensive?
WB Have done refurbs on a number of occasions i.e re-paneling, presume re-glazing where required, it just leaves WA to then paint it. I think one of WN's recent Trident refurbs was done there before 4352
I saw either 4311/12 in West Brom getting a refurb when I was in there while training
Quote from: Winston on May 13, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 05:10:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
West Bromwich have finished the refurb on PE4352 and it is now Walsall for painting
Am i missing something, didn't think WB did refurbs? Wonder what has been done, just refubed seat cushions or is it more extensive?
WB Have done refurbs on a number of occasions i.e re-paneling, presume re-glazing where required, it just leaves WA to then paint it. I think one of WN's recent Trident refurbs was done there before 4352
West Bromwich permanently have one bus for refurb, some of YWs tridents were also done there. Don't know which one is next there
1825 out on the 8C refurbished
Quote from: John on May 14, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
1825 out on the 8C refurbished
The paintshop are flying through the BY Omnilinks lately, I make it 12 left to be done i.e. 1815/6, 1818-1821, 1826, 1828, 1831, 1834/5, with 1814 in for refurb & no doubt one of the list remaining now gone in in place of 1825.
Quote from: Winston on May 14, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
Quote from: John on May 14, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
1825 out on the 8C refurbished
The paintshop are flying through the BY Omnilinks lately, I make it 12 left to be done i.e. 1815/6, 1818-1821, 1826, 1828, 1831, 1834/5, with 1814 in for refurb & no doubt one of the list remaining now gone in in place of 1825.
Well its not 1818, 1828 or 1834 as I seen them on the 17 & 55 today :)
Also how are 4152's, 4160's & 4161's refurbs progressing? :)
4161 now back at BC
Quote from: Tony on May 16, 2014, 09:34:29 AM
4161 now back at BC
I'll look out for it next week :)
4352 now back at Pensnett
4779 now back at Perry Barr
4777 replaced it at Walsall for refurb
4558 is the next one due back at WN. Should be finished in a week or two
Was it reported that 4160 is now back at BC?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 22, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Was it reported that 4160 is now back at BC?
4161 was reported back at BC
@Liverpool Street :)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 22, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 22, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 22, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Was it reported that 4160 is now back at BC?
4161 was reported back at BC @Liverpool Street :)
Then @Rob, 4160 is back at BC :)
I'll look out for both 4160 & 4161 tomorrow then as I haven't seen 4161 yet since it came back :)
4721 now finished, but for some reason is currently parked in Acocks Green, mind 4161 has been at Yardley Wood since it came out of Walsall!
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 09:06:02 PM
4721 now finished, but for some reason is currently parked in Acocks Green, mind 4161 has been at Yardley Wood since it came out of Walsall!
The floor is non existent at the moment (at least by the entrance area anyway), I must say it looks smart on the exterior though.
Quote from: Rob on May 22, 2014, 07:46:44 PM
I'll look out for both 4160 & 4161 tomorrow then as I haven't seen 4161 yet since it came back :)
@Rob 4160 is on your local route today if you still need to find it
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14291254474/
Quote from: John on May 28, 2014, 05:13:19 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 22, 2014, 07:46:44 PM
I'll look out for both 4160 & 4161 tomorrow then as I haven't seen 4161 yet since it came back :)
@Rob 4160 is on your local route today if you still need to find it
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14291254474/
I am still after 4160
@John but I didn't go out today because I wasn't feeling well but I'll catch it tomorrow or Friday (if I see it) but thank you for letting me know its out :) Great pic btw :)
4152 having its first day out today on Pershore Road
4721 is on 35 today, currently Hawkesley bound passing through Moseley
4375 refurbished on YW2
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 31, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
4375 refurbished on YW2
4375 was done a while back buddy :)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 31, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
4375 refurbished on YW2
4375 was refurbished over 2 years ago
4126 now back in service, on the 77 today
1834 now back at Bordesley on the 55 today, replaced at Walsall by 1821
4728 now back at Yardley Wood, replaced at Walsall by 4727
Is 4558 back at WN yet?
No, 4561 is being collected tomorrow though all being well
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
1834 now back at Bordesley on the 55 today, replaced at Walsall by 1821
4728 now back at Yardley Wood, replaced at Walsall by 4727
I'll try and get a pic of 1834 tomorrow if its on the 17 or 55. :)
Quote from: Rob on June 05, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2014, 12:05:03 PM
1834 now back at Bordesley on the 55 today, replaced at Walsall by 1821
4728 now back at Yardley Wood, replaced at Walsall by 4727
I'll try and get a pic of 1834 tomorrow if its on the 17 or 55. :)
A photo of it today will appear on the main site in the next 30 minutes
Looking at that picture does that mean they have left room for branding to be applied?
4227 is now at Powertrain at Willenhall
Quote from: Rob on June 05, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
I'll try and get a pic of 1834 tomorrow if its on the 17 or 55. :)
@Rob. 1834 is on the 55 again if you still need to get a pic of it
Quote from: John on June 06, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Quote from: Rob on June 05, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
I'll try and get a pic of 1834 tomorrow if its on the 17 or 55. :)
@Rob. 1834 is on the 55 again if you still need to get a pic of it
Thank You
@John I did see 1834 in Chelmsley Wood but my camera decided not to work so I'm going to have to try and get it anytime next week :)
4160 refurbished on BC60
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 08, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
4160 refurbished on BC60
It has been back for a few weeks now. John reported it in service on May 28th
Quote from: BN on June 05, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
No, 4561 is being collected tomorrow though all being well
Is 4558/61 due back in service yet?
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: BN on June 05, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
No, 4561 is being collected tomorrow though all being well
Is 4558/61 due back in service yet?
Give Walsall chance to finish the refurbishment of 4558 first!
@Tony, a polite yes or no would have been better :) What about 4561? Is that back yet?
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
@Tony, a polite yes or no would have been better :) What about 4561? Is that back yet?
Yes BN answered you that one last time you asked about 4558
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
@Tony, a polite yes or no would have been better :) What about 4561? Is that back yet?
Yes BN answered you that one last time you asked about 4558
But i want to know if its back in service yet! If anybody on here see's it out in service this week could you let me know thanks :)
Clearly a big effort is being made at the moment to improve the look/image of the fleet
What work is actual carried out on the refurbs?
Externally I believe all damaged panels/bodywork are replaced followed by a full repaint
Internally I believe all seat cushions are replaced
Is any additional work carried out such as internal repaints, new floors, deep clean, new windows overhauled mechanical units
Also does NX plan to refurb buses after a certain time period, say every 5 years (so 2 refurbs for a vehicle life of 15 years) so the fleet is kept refreshed?
4227 just arrived back at West Bromwich
Quote from: Nathan on June 10, 2014, 09:50:51 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
@Tony, a polite yes or no would have been better :) What about 4561? Is that back yet?
Yes BN answered you that one last time you asked about 4558
But i want to know if its back in service yet! If anybody on here see's it out in service this week could you let me know thanks :)
Cancel that! 4561 worked running board 255/19 this afternoon which works the 711/255/256S
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2014, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: BN on June 05, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
No, 4561 is being collected tomorrow though all being well
Is 4558/61 due back in service yet?
Give Walsall chance to finish the refurbishment of 4558 first!
4558 went back last night and is out on the 255 today
4227 has now returned to Oak Lane repainted. Thanks to
@Winston for the heads up ;)
Quote from: uniquicity on June 11, 2014, 06:24:49 PM
4227 has now returned to Oak Lane repainted. Thanks to @Winston for the heads up ;)
@uniquicity you wouldn't have seen it until Oct without a helping hand..... :P
It was worth the 2 minute walk to Oak Lane ;)
Quote from: Tony on June 11, 2014, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2014, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: BN on June 05, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
No, 4561 is being collected tomorrow though all being well
Is 4558/61 due back in service yet?
Give Walsall chance to finish the refurbishment of 4558 first!
4558 went back last night and is out on the 255 today
It worked board 79/08 this afternoon which does the PM 713 school service then a round trip on the 79 before going back to garage.
Also 4561 was on the 529 today
4777s first day out repainted is on a late night 67
Quote from: Tony on June 12, 2014, 06:32:40 PM
4777s first day out repainted is on a late night 67
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14405848632/
As mentioned elsewhere 4560 is now back at WN. So if anybody spots it tommorow could they let me know? Thanks :)
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2014, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on June 11, 2014, 06:24:49 PM
4227 has now returned to Oak Lane repainted. Thanks to @Winston for the heads up ;)
@uniquicity you wouldn't have seen it until Oct without a helping hand..... :P
Out on the 74 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4227.html
4560 should be in service on Friday
Here is 1814 on its first day back out
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1814.html
Quote from: Nathan on June 17, 2014, 07:41:08 PM
4560 should be in service on Friday
4560 is infact back out in service today on the 25A/C
The last of the buses to carry 'stick on' livery 4363 returned to service painted properly today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4363.html
4625 , 4328 and NXC 4399 have been refurbished
My Pic Of 4399- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14478940764/
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 22, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
4625 , 4328 and NXC 4399 have been refurbished
My Pic Of 4399- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14478940764/
All done months ago
Quote from: Ashley on June 22, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 22, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
4625 , 4328 and NXC 4399 have been refurbished
My Pic Of 4399- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14478940764/
All done months ago
4625 wasn't done months ago, that one hasn't even been on the road yet since it was done
Refurbished 4161 has finally made it back to BC after having a new floor put in at YW
4153 bc and 4321 wb finished outside wa paintshop
4231.
Sorry typo on iphone
No worries, I'm just pedantic ;)
Quote from: Wolves256 on June 23, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
4153 bc and 4321 wb finished outside wa paintshop
4231 was already back at West Bromwich by the time you posted that, replaced at Walsall by 4232 for refurb
I was there at around 5,30 pm and they were both parked outside the paint shop
Any sign of 4199 arriving at WA from WB
Quote from: Wolves256 on June 23, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
I was there at around 5,30 pm and they were both parked outside the paint shop
I wasn't knocking your post, it only takes 15 min to get a bus back to WB from WA, Ironically it arrived back at WB almost exactly the same time your message appeared
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2014, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on June 23, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
4153 bc and 4321 wb finished outside wa paintshop
4231 was already back at West Bromwich by the time you posted that, replaced at Walsall by 4232 for refurb
4232. I was on that at half 6 this morning on the 74 and saw it again at half 4 this afternoon
4153 has been refurbished at BC
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
4153 has been refurbished at BC
Tony got a pic of it yesterday
Quote from: John on June 25, 2014, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
4153 has been refurbished at BC
Tony got a pic of it yesterday
I did aswell parked at BC
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14320890198/
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: John on June 25, 2014, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
4153 has been refurbished at BC
Tony got a pic of it yesterday
I did aswell parked at BC
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14320890198/
Please NX, add some blue to those skirts :(
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 25, 2014, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: John on June 25, 2014, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 25, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
4153 has been refurbished at BC
Tony got a pic of it yesterday
I did aswell parked at BC
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14320890198/
Please NX, add some blue to those skirts :(
Or something....even First have a better new livery!*
*-Except the Cherry Red Potteries route branding...
4402 is back at Coventry, if this hasn't already been reported.
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 26, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
4402 is back at Coventry, if this hasn't already been reported.
It has & has been replaced by 4407 now in for refurb
4402 back in traffic with ads already. 4453 showing how still looking after several years.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/74gBTX
4697 now back at Perry Barr. I think BC4626 is next to be finished
4262 now back on the road, was on the 94 on Saturday, 46 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4262.html
4626 now back at BC
4727 on the road for the first time today on the 50 service
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
4697 now back at Perry Barr.
Popped into the garage this morning and had a quick nose at 4697. Doesn't look like it has been out in service yet, but it looks a lot smarter now anyway ;D
4626, first day in service replainted today on pershore Road
The refurbishment of 4309 has been finished by Trailways. It is now at Walsall for painting.
4142 has joined 4562 & 4573 at Trailways
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
The refurbishment of 4309 has been finished by Trailways. It is now at Walsall for painting.
4142 has joined 4562 & 4573 at Trailways
Have Trailways expanded? didn't they originally do one refurb at a time when they first started sub contracting to NX?
4728 is finally out and about, on the 50 today.
Seen 4161 for the 1st time since refurb out on the 70 today.
Here is the link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/14551033846/
1835 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1835.html
4309 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4309.html
Both now finished. I suspect 4306 or 4307 or possible both are now being done, but haven't been able to confirm yet.
4562 will be the first of the Wolverhampton 3 finished refurb is done and now back at Walsall for paint
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
1835 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1835.html
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4309.html
Both now finished. I suspect 4306 or 4307 or possible both are now being done, but haven't been able to confirm yet.
4562 will be the first of the Wolverhampton 3 finished refurb is done and now back at Walsall for paint
4309 is back in service on the 301 today
Quote from: Nathan on July 10, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
1835 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1835.html
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4309.html
Both now finished. I suspect 4306 or 4307 or possible both are now being done, but haven't been able to confirm yet.
4562 will be the first of the Wolverhampton 3 finished refurb is done and now back at Walsall for paint
4309 is back in service on the 301 today
It was in Service on 77 Wednesday
It looks like both YW4342 & WN 4562 might both be ready to leave Walsall tonight
4562 being collected tonight 4570 going in.
WN 4562 back from paint should be out Tuesday.
Quote from: BN on July 13, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
WN 4562 back from paint should be out Tuesday.
4562 came out late Monday afternoon to replace 4536 on the 59 service
4342 was also out yesterday on 50s.
Trailways have now finished the refurb of 4573, at Walsall for painting so won't be long before that one is back at Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2014, 07:48:26 AM
Trailways have now finished the refurb of 4573, at Walsall for painting so won't be long before that one is back at Wolverhampton
Cheers for that update Tony. I presume 4587 will replace 4573 in the paintshop
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2014, 07:48:26 AM
Trailways have now finished the refurb of 4573, at Walsall for painting so won't be long before that one is back at Wolverhampton
Cheers for that update Tony. I presume 4587 will replace 4573 in the paintshop
I'm going to mix it up and send something like 4595 instead.
Quote from: BN on July 16, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2014, 08:04:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2014, 07:48:26 AM
Trailways have now finished the refurb of 4573, at Walsall for painting so won't be long before that one is back at Wolverhampton
Cheers for that update Tony. I presume 4587 will replace 4573 in the paintshop
I'm going to mix it up and send something like 4595 instead.
That one has been in desperate need for a refurb and repaint for some time
Suggestion, Tony you seem to have the powers that be ears so to say , when a vehicle is in for refurb while the seat cushions are out to be reupholstered , the interior should under go steam cleaning or through er deep clean , I think it would greatly help the appearance and get rid of some those awfull smells. Many vehicles that I,ve seen com back fro refurb still grimy but with new cushions. It seems half arsed IMO.
Quote from: 2900 on July 16, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
Suggestion, Tony you seem to have the powers that be ears so to say , when a vehicle is in for refurb while the seat cushions are out to be reupholstered , the interior should under go steam cleaning or through er deep clean , I think it would greatly help the appearance and get rid of some those awfull smells. Many vehicles that I,ve seen com back fro refurb still grimy but with new cushions. It seems half arsed IMO.
I agree @2900, they call it a refurb, but really it's a repaint and new seat cushions.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 16, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: 2900 on July 16, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
Suggestion, Tony you seem to have the powers that be ears so to say , when a vehicle is in for refurb while the seat cushions are out to be reupholstered , the interior should under go steam cleaning or through er deep clean , I think it would greatly help the appearance and get rid of some those awfull smells. Many vehicles that I,ve seen com back fro refurb still grimy but with new cushions. It seems half arsed IMO.
I agree @2900, they call it a refurb, but really it's a repaint and new seat cushions.
Green Bus 121 - that qualifies as a refurb! I don't know if NX/TWM have ever done a proper refurb.
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 16, 2014, 07:18:23 PM
Quote from: 2900 on July 16, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
Suggestion, Tony you seem to have the powers that be ears so to say , when a vehicle is in for refurb while the seat cushions are out to be reupholstered , the interior should under go steam cleaning or through er deep clean , I think it would greatly help the appearance and get rid of some those awfull smells. Many vehicles that I,ve seen com back fro refurb still grimy but with new cushions. It seems half arsed IMO.
I agree @2900, they call it a refurb, but really it's a repaint and new seat cushions.
Green Bus 121 - that qualifies as a refurb! I don't know if NX/TWM have ever done a proper refurb.
The entire President fleet was refurb'd by ADL @ Harlow, prior to that the Metrobus fleet at Marshall's of Cambridge
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
Quote from: trident4370 on July 16, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
I did not realise that. At what age was this?
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on July 16, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
I did not realise that. At what age was this?
2007 i think
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on July 16, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
I did not realise that. At what age was this?
Which is presumably why the Presidents will be around for a while yet, higher book value.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 16, 2014, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on July 16, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
I did not realise that. At what age was this?
Which is presumably why the Presidents will be around for a while yet, higher book value.
Surely they'll be the next DD's for the chop after the Spectras.
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 16, 2014, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: Matt on July 16, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on July 16, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
To be fair the Presidents (excluding 4033) have all had a "Proper" refurb, new LEDs, New Floors etc, same with some of the B10L.
I did not realise that. At what age was this?
Which is presumably why the Presidents will be around for a while yet, higher book value.
Surely they'll be the next DD's for the chop after the Spectras.
If they were extensively refurbed only a few years ago, maybe not.
Some b6le ,s have had full on refurbs a while ago, new floors , handrails re powder coated, new seat backs and cushions done to high standards . Not 100% certain some b10b,s got the same treatment what a waste that was. Some of presidents have undergone second refurbs at west brom some now sporting grey seat cushions. Externally the refurbs are very full on from what I,ve seen at west brom , glass out , reskinned basically top to bottom all very through er .
I know several PE Tridents have gone to WB for refurb of late and then to WA for repaint. Considering the time they were at WB i would assume more work was done on them than just the seat cushions being changed?
I agree some vehicles come back from their spruce up still filthy, 1643 I made a point about at the time, whoever worked on 4348 omitted to remove the various tags from the upper deck floors
What about fitting hybrid style seating in future refurbs with interior body panel paint to match the style of their plastic counterparts. My novice theory would be that this wouldn't cost much more than it does to recondition the seats using the current method, just an idea
IMO the grey style seat moquette fabric used in the nx spec vehicles should made in blue for the twm vehicles when being reupholstered at least it would have tied in with the blue interiors. Just a thought
Quote from: 2900 on July 16, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
IMO the grey style seat moquette fabric used in the nx spec vehicles should made in blue for the twm vehicles when being reupholstered at least it would have tied in with the blue interiors. Just a thought
@2900
I agree with that - when I use the Tridents with the new NX grey, the grey just does not fit in with the blue backs - it looks a mess. Same with the Scania Omnilinks at BY. The best refurb for the Scanias at BY was 1833. They kept the silver light surrounds, had a good red shade and kept the blue/last TWM seat design.
Working down in Northampton these days and after seeing the X4 fast services, let's hope Stagecoach eithers enters the brum market or purchases NXWM buses. Neither of which are very likely but the standard of prime corridor routes looks to an outsider far more superior than NXWM. Just a view point.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on July 16, 2014, 10:13:29 PM
Working down in Northampton these days and after seeing the X4 fast services, let's hope Stagecoach eithers enters the brum market or purchases NXWM buses. Neither of which are very likely but the standard of prime corridor routes looks to an outsider far more superior than NXWM. Just a view point.
The X4 has brand new buses on, so of course they are going to look good. It also does not carry any 'inner city' type passengers so is easier to keep looking like that. Do you really think if Stagecoach was in Birmingham they wouldn't have their buses window etched or rubbish left allover the floor.
Perhaps you might like to tell me where Stagecoach litter pick the X4 during the day like NWM/NX do on Harborne services?
Yes Stagecoach can be brilliant, but so can National Express, First, Arriva, Go-Ahead and various other companies, but Stagecoach can also be absolutely dire, see http://wmbusphotos.com/StagecoachUC/16695.html
Ha ha, response quicker than I thought. Interesting you highlighted services some (i.e Harborne routes) of the same old's that receive the special treatments lol.
Get a lot of your points, but if that is what they can do in areas with a lower revenue base would love to see what they could do with a major conurbation. Even if they are not better would give certain operator with a near monopoly in Brum, a boot up the backside across all areas of Brum not just the North and West.
Terrible being bored in these hotels lol.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on July 16, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
Ha ha, response quicker than I thought. Interesting you highlighted services some (i.e Harborne routes) of the same old's that receive the special treatments lol.
Get a lot of your points, but if that is what they can do in areas with a lower revenue base would love to see what they could do with a major conurbation. Even if they are not better would give certain operator with a near monopoly in Brum, a boot up the backside across all areas of Brum not just the North and West.
Terrible being bored in these hotels lol.
But you have to compare like with like. The X4 gets 'Special treatment' so is a fare compare with Harborne.
Compare your pet hate the 94 with routes Stagecoach Manchester (yes in a major conurbation) run with T-W-registration unrefurbished tridents (17612-71). I bet you will find them very similar. Stagecoach are also still using step entrance buses in Manchester.
Compare routes run by B6s with routes run by S & T reg MANs in Manchester. I think you will find NXs B6s are actually in better condition and they will probably be withdrawn in the next 3 months. Stagecoach's MANs won't!
Fair point, I would still like to think that another big player into the Brum market would ensure resources spread out on like for like routes and that carry similar types passenger loadings.
How could anybody compare the X4 in Northants (a lovely scenic sprint across middle england) to the Harbourne routes (some ok, some full of baggage)
People do slate B6's, but many of them don't realise there are worse out there, the Stagecoach S/T reg MAN's are known across the land as "barges". The shabby looking Ultrlows and Fiolines at First Potteries are in better condition than some Stagecoach buses
Quote from: Ashley on July 17, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
How could anybody compare the X4 in Northants (a lovely scenic sprint across middle england) to the Harbourne routes (some ok, some full of baggage)
People do slate B6's, but many of them don't realise there are worse out there, the Stagecoach S/T reg MAN's are known across the land as "barges". The shabby looking Ultrlows and Fiolines at First Potteries are in better condition than some Stagecoach buses
Agreed-visit Stagecoach NE anytime-plenty of S/T/V reg MANs about many unrefurbed. For balance, they have plenty of hybrids and smart e400's about but this is much like Rotala/EYMS/Centrebus/NX/Arriva/First/Transdev/RATP/Go Ahead etc etc.
Quote from: Ashley on July 17, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
How could anybody compare the X4 in Northants (a lovely scenic sprint across middle england) to the Harbourne routes (some ok, some full of baggage)
People do slate B6's, but many of them don't realise there are worse out there, the Stagecoach S/T reg MAN's are known across the land as "barges". The shabby looking Ultrlows and Fiolines at First Potteries are in better condition than some Stagecoach buses
Nobody was comparing the scenery, calibre of passenger etc, just making the observation that both receive a lot of attention from their respective operators.
Quote from: Mike K on July 17, 2014, 10:07:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 17, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
How could anybody compare the X4 in Northants (a lovely scenic sprint across middle england) to the Harbourne routes (some ok, some full of baggage)
People do slate B6's, but many of them don't realise there are worse out there, the Stagecoach S/T reg MAN's are known across the land as "barges". The shabby looking Ultrlows and Fiolines at First Potteries are in better condition than some Stagecoach buses
Nobody was comparing the scenery, calibre of passenger etc, just making the observation that both receive a lot of attention from their respective operators.
Well said, however if you want to go down that route the X4 does drive through Corby (Whole town like castle vale) lol.
4564 now back at Wolverhampton
4595 is now away for refurb.
Quote from: Tony on July 21, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
4564 now back at Wolverhampton
4564 is about to work a 126E trip to Dudley from Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:10
Quote from: Nathan on July 23, 2014, 02:04:54 PM
4595 is now away for refurb.
Is 4564 back in service yet?
Yes its on standby tunnels replacement.
4564 on 126e this afternoon. unusually its had a transbus alx400 badge fitted to the lower right handside of the engine panel at the rear.
Quote from: mranon on July 23, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
4564 on 126e this afternoon. unusually its had a transbus alx400 badge fitted to the lower right handside of the engine panel at the rear.
See post just above mate :) In regards to the comment about the Transbus ALX400 logo, i have seen a few WN tridents with that logo on the rear
yes but after refurb?
Quote from: mranon on July 23, 2014, 10:47:44 PM
yes but after refurb?
Presumably the boot lid panel didn't need replacing only filling, they don't replace every single panel, only those with the worst damage.
Quote from: mranon on July 23, 2014, 10:47:44 PM
yes but after refurb?
Yep there another one i've seen after repaint with the logo still intact
Lots of the Coventry transbus alx400s still have the log on the front under the windscreen after refurb. I personally like the logo.
having prepped buses and coaches for respray myself, you would normally remove badge not mask arount it. compared to badges fitted to vehicles at nxwm/twm in the past, disappearing after refurb/paint
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 24, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Lots of the Coventry transbus alx400s still have the log on the front under the windscreen after refurb.
You would think they would scrape that stuff off rather than paint over it. :o
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 24, 2014, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 24, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Lots of the Coventry transbus alx400s still have the log on the front under the windscreen after refurb.
You would think they would scrape that stuff off rather than paint over it. :o
They don't paint over it, they paint round it. 4422, 4406 and 4413 are just a few examples of that, look at the pictures of them on the main site.
Although I have noticed perry Barr have removed some of the rear and front Alexander Dennis badges on some of their 61 plate enviros, and replaced the front middle panel, to the same as a 13 plate one. The 13 plate onwards enviros are built without the badge.
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 24, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 24, 2014, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 24, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Lots of the Coventry transbus alx400s still have the log on the front under the windscreen after refurb.
You would think they would scrape that stuff off rather than paint over it. :o
They don't paint over it, they paint round it. 4422, 4406 and 4413 are just a few examples of that, look at the pictures of them on the main site.
I think 4778 was referring to the 'logs' not the badges 8)
I meant logo not log. Stupid auto correct on my iPhone. >.<
4573 painted and being collected tonight.
Replaced with 4592
Quote from: BN on July 24, 2014, 04:47:45 PM
4573 painted and being collected tonight.
Replaced with 4592
4573 is back in traffic on the 59 today
Seen 1819 for the first time since refurb link is below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/14769805062/
4407 has left the refurb bay at west brom garage guessing it's at Walsall for paint, another twm liveried alx400 has taken its place glass already out couldn't see fleet number.
Quote from: 2900 on August 02, 2014, 01:11:08 AM
4407 has left the refurb bay at west brom garage guessing it's at Walsall for paint, another twm liveried alx400 has taken its place glass already out couldn't see fleet number.
It is 4589
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
West Bromwich has now finished CV4407 which is now at Walsall for repaint. 4589 has replaced it at WB in the refurb bay.
4356 back at pn
Was that on 141/241/240 today?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2014, 05:47:18 PM
Was that on 141/241/240 today?
No, its only been returned from the paintshop today
Correct
What bus is the half repainted Trident behind 4429?
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4429.html
After seeing that half repainted bus I now wander if all the early repaints will now get this half a refurb job. The quality of refurbs in the 2 to 3 years has vastly improved to what has gone before. Shame if it's the case. Bean counters probably been weilding the axe.
Quote from: 2900 on August 26, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
After seeing that half repainted bus I now wander if all the early repaints will now get this half a refurb job. The quality of refurbs in the 2 to 3 years has vastly improved to what has gone before. Shame if it's the case. Bean counters probably been weilding the axe.
Nothing to do with been counters, just accident damaged 4425 repaired, patched up and waiting to go back to BC
NXC 4407 back out in traffic after refurb.
Quote from: Tony on August 26, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
Quote from: 2900 on August 26, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
After seeing that half repainted bus I now wander if all the early repaints will now get this half a refurb job. The quality of refurbs in the 2 to 3 years has vastly improved to what has gone before. Shame if it's the case. Bean counters probably been weilding the axe.
Nothing to do with been counters, just accident damaged 4425 repaired, patched up and waiting to go back to BC
Looks to have entire offside including wheels repainted below the waist rail (or is it all the offside white?) - must have been large rectification required.
4719 is finally back and on 35 today.
4595 back from Refurb out on the 255 today
Quote from: Rob2832 on August 29, 2014, 10:16:41 AM
4595 back from Refurb out on the 255 today
Did the 10.20 from Wolverhampton to Merry hill
4724 back out on 35.
4611 on the Pershores today, lost its upper deck monitor
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/15117626855/
4570 is back out repainted. Its currently loading on the 59 at W'ton Bus Station
Quote from: John on September 02, 2014, 02:45:07 PM
4611 on the Pershores today, lost its upper deck monitor
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/15117626855/
Ugh. That doesn't look right. I remember these being brand new and everything worked and everything was posh. Doesn't get the same effect from the E400's. Those 46's on the Pershore with a few Metros thrown in for good measure. Good times.
Just travelled into town on 4918 and unbelievably there is already a downstairs seat cushion replaced but not in the grey trim that the rest of the bus is furnished in, it's been done in the old blue material. Do these people have no idea atall??
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Refurbed 4417 seen back in traffic in Coventry yesterday on 13 presumably as a sub.
Quote from: Gareth on September 20, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Fair enough Gareth but you know as well as I do that this will now never get changed. Not a good image on a nearly new vehicle. Why on earth don't they have the trim available?
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 20, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Fair enough Gareth but you know as well as I do that this will now never get changed. Not a good image on a nearly new vehicle. Why on earth don't they have the trim available?
Similar to when replacement panels are put onto e200's in the wrong shade of white. There's no need-I can understand spare parts for alx400's could be in colours different to the current fleet livery but e200's never wore that colour white!! Surely spares should be sprayed into the right colours?
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 20, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 20, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Fair enough Gareth but you know as well as I do that this will now never get changed. Not a good image on a nearly new vehicle. Why on earth don't they have the trim available?
Similar to when replacement panels are put onto e200's in the wrong shade of white. There's no need-I can understand spare parts for alx400's could be in colours different to the current fleet livery but e200's never wore that colour white!! Surely spares should be sprayed into the right colours?
That's my other bug bear....several of the refurbed Geminis have this problem too. Why are they so sloppy in their attention to detail? It's exactly how so much of the TWM fleet got into such a mess in the first place and they're repeating their mistakes already.
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 20, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 20, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Fair enough Gareth but you know as well as I do that this will now never get changed. Not a good image on a nearly new vehicle. Why on earth don't they have the trim available?
Similar to when replacement panels are put onto e200's in the wrong shade of white. There's no need-I can understand spare parts for alx400's could be in colours different to the current fleet livery but e200's never wore that colour white!! Surely spares should be sprayed into the right colours?
That's my other bug bear....several of the refurbed Geminis have this problem too. Why are they so sloppy in their attention to detail? It's exactly how so much of the TWM fleet got into such a mess in the first place and they're repeating their mistakes already.
I agree, how difficult would it be to supply all garages with both shades of red & white paint with colour swatches so they can be colour matched? Carlyle don't seem to have any bother painting in accident damage in the correct shades.
With the prospect of yet another variation on the application of the red/white livery with potentially further colours shades being added, the problem is going to be exaggerated.
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 20, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: andy on September 20, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Gareth on September 20, 2014, 02:08:08 PM
Surely it's better to put in a bus in service making money if the only spare in the garage is an old one rather than sitting round doing nothing waiting for a correct spec one from somewhere.
Fair enough Gareth but you know as well as I do that this will now never get changed. Not a good image on a nearly new vehicle. Why on earth don't they have the trim available?
Similar to when replacement panels are put onto e200's in the wrong shade of white. There's no need-I can understand spare parts for alx400's could be in colours different to the current fleet livery but e200's never wore that colour white!! Surely spares should be sprayed into the right colours?
That's my other bug bear....several of the refurbed Geminis have this problem too. Why are they so sloppy in their attention to detail? It's exactly how so much of the TWM fleet got into such a mess in the first place and they're repeating their mistakes already.
Yeah-geminis are another example.
Somehow it never showed up as much in the TWM livery but when you've got a simple livery including white, it has to match else it sticks out like a sore thumb.
It just looks unnecessarily sloppy...
YW are pretty good at matching colours and the panels up - the Scanias and Tridents certainly have correct shades applied after any panel damage etc. The only exception is 1922 which has the vivid red paint applied to the offside lower front panel, but that makes it easily recognisable and it hardly looks out of place. My only gripe is 1918 which has one of the red light panels - instead of the silver. I don't understand why they didn't order/paint a silver panel so it does not look out of place.
Noticed the BC Enviro 400s have this problem - the rear light panels when replaced have not got the correct cream colour - instead they just have white. Surely it can not be that hard to stock the correct shade and apply it. AG seem to have made a mess of some of the Geminis, with a number having a mixture of the panels - just looks messy. The 2009-2011 NX repaints need doing next after the TWMs are refurbished. Some of them are looking really worn now.
Just one question - why did the red on the earlier NX repaints fade so much? When first repainted they were a really bright red, but soon reduced to a pinkish, tired looking red.
Just noticed 4679 in Erdington looking like it's had the treatment.
How come there's missing bits of fleetname?
(Mind you that's a lot better when it's not an obvious sticker like some occasions over the past 25 years or so!)
NXC 4401 back out in traffic
Hopefully the Geminis (WB's) get refurbished and repainted when 4264, 4273 and 4297 are done. Most (if not all) of them still have connection bars, and could do with a refurb (4511-4531)
2120 looks like it's been refurbished spotted it on 72 to solihull
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 08, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
2120 looks like it's been refurbished spotted it on 72 to solihull
Mentioned a while back, was done before the Bus Driver of the Year 2014 event
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Hopefully the Geminis (WB's) get refurbished and repainted when 4264, 4273 and 4297 are done. Most (if not all) of them still have connection bars, and could do with a refurb (4511-4531)
Half of that batch aren't even at WB
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2014, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 14, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
Hopefully the Geminis (WB's) get refurbished and repainted when 4264, 4273 and 4297 are done. Most (if not all) of them still have connection bars, and could do with a refurb (4511-4531)
Half of that batch aren't even at WB
They still need refurbs though, I'm sure they'll be done soon
Quote from: Kiewii on November 08, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 08, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
2120 looks like it's been refurbished spotted it on 72 to solihull
Mentioned a while back, was done before the Bus Driver of the Year 2014 event
It wasn't refurbished, just had a new lick of paint.
Quote from: Stu on November 09, 2014, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: Kiewii on November 08, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on November 08, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
2120 looks like it's been refurbished spotted it on 72 to solihull
Mentioned a while back, was done before the Bus Driver of the Year 2014 event
It wasn't refurbished, just had a new lick of paint.
I am aware of that. I was only meaning the paintwork
Rode 4370 this morning - in the NX scheme looking very smart - unfortunately the interior is still the old interior - worn TWM seats! Why has it not had the new Grey dot trim fitted?
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 11, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Rode 4370 this morning - in the NX scheme looking very smart - unfortunately the interior is still the old interior - worn TWM seats! Why has it not had the new Grey dot trim fitted?
Same with 4588. Its seats haven't been replaced!
Quote from: Nathan on November 11, 2014, 12:48:51 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 11, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
Rode 4370 this morning - in the NX scheme looking very smart - unfortunately the interior is still the old interior - worn TWM seats! Why has it not had the new Grey dot trim fitted?
Same with 4588. Its seats haven't been replaced!
I wonder if 4519 is the same, as that was turned around pretty quick
Tony
Will the seats be replaced later or is this a change of NXWM policy?
I thought the feedback from 4177 was that the travelling public like the new seat covers as it gives the impression of a new bus
NX better not just be doing the exterior now - look where that policy from 2008 to 2010 left them - it's a large let down - 4370's seats are threadbare on the edges - looks a mess.
4362, Currently in for refurb isnt much better either! Does seem a bit if a step backwards but maybe theres a reason, new moquette on the cards maybe?
seat backs/cushions can be changed easily enough. maybe theres a delay with trim shop. or could be they are trying to get twm livery eliminated as quickly as possible
If the seats are changed by the garages the bus will spend more time off the road
At the moment the seat pads are sent away for re trim while the body work is repaired and prepared for painting so minimizing the time the vehicle is of the road
Also the garages have not got a good track record at replacing seats, hence the vehicles running round with multiple patterns
Refurbished AG 4675 out on 5 if anyone wants a photo
My picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16058505079/
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on January 10, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
Refurbished AG 4675 out on 5 if anyone wants a photo
My picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16058505079/
I find the red and shite livery suits the Geminis.. Oddly on other pictures I think it doesn't but on your shot it looks like it does. Good photo.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 10, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on January 10, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
Refurbished AG 4675 out on 5 if anyone wants a photo
My picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16058505079/
I find the red and shite livery suits the Geminis.. Oddly on other pictures I think it doesn't but on your shot it looks like it does. Good photo.
Thanks for seeing the picture mate
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on January 10, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
Refurbished AG 4675 out on 5 if anyone wants a photo
My picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16058505079/
That is a great picture and that Gemini looks absolutely stunning! They look even nicer without the advert on the side, it looks brand new!
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on January 10, 2015, 10:16:12 AM
Refurbished AG 4675 out on 5 if anyone wants a photo
My picture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16058505079/
I didn't notice the AG bit initially, and couldn't imagine why a WB 451 would be in Birmingham!
I still maintain it was dumb to create loads of routes with the same number.