Saturday 07/04/12:
2080 was noted on the 241 (Dudley - Halesowen) this afternoon. Do these PE B7RLE's stray away often from the Birmingham-bound routes?
The 244 (Dudley - Hasbury), which in my experience is usually run by early Volvo B6LE, seemed to be wall-to-wall Merc O405's today, I rode 1593 into Halesowen, and we passed two others including 1665.
And 1404 was operating on the 67 Castle Vale this evening!
The 241 is booked B7RLE as it interworks with the 140. This has meant that the mercs have been able to be concentrated onto the 222/243/244 afaik
Theres hardly any b6le's left at Pensnett so most routes that were b6le will see mercs or be totally merc operated same happening at West Brom
Thanks for the info on the PE workings, guys!
Up to the end of March Fleetchanges there were still 17 x B6LE's allocated to PE, there may be a couple more withdrawals now 2095, 2097 & 2098 are in service. I believe 622 may have been seen operating in Walsall not sure whether a loan or transfer? 617 is the only B6LE @ PE left in TWM livery so that be on the hit list. All the rest are in NXWM livery & the bulk have been refurbished/retrimmed
Quote from: Ash on April 07, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
Theres hardly any b6le's left at Pensnett so most routes that were b6le will see mercs or be totally merc operated same happening at West Brom
Yeah i had a ride on 622 last week on the 34 and i would think this has transferred to replace older b6le at walsall
I thought it was seen at Walsall before the end of March, but doesn't appear on the latest fleetchanges
Quote from: Ash on April 08, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
Yeah i had a ride on 622 last week on the 34 and i would think this has transferred to replace older b6le at walsall
Quote from: winston on April 08, 2012, 12:14:45 AM
I thought it was seen at Walsall before the end of March, but doesn't appear on the latest fleetchanges
Quote from: Ash on April 08, 2012, 12:08:51 AM
Yeah i had a ride on 622 last week on the 34 and i would think this has transferred to replace older b6le at walsall
Yeah i thought it might have been as 597 was on the march fleetchanges
597 & 622 are now withdrawn after only 2 weeks of service at Walsall
Probably only a temporary measure then! Walsall will lose a number of B6LEs which should be replaced with some B10Ls from AG.
On Good Friday I went to Walsall hoping to find B10L's in service but I didn't see any.
However I did see 17 Walsall B6LE's in service, 4129 and 4136 were on the 29, 4374 was on the 41
On Tuesday3rd I got on 1646 on route 141, there was another Merc, sorry I didn't get the fleetnumber
Yesterday (7th), 1423 1434 1436 1438 and 1440 were on the 71/72 with some scanias and volvos. 2099 and 4023 were on the 37.1519 and 1615 were on route 205. 1549 and 1677 were on route 27.
Just thought I'd share those with anybody interested
The 205 & 297 at least seem to be worked by solid Mercs since a large number of the B6 have been withdrawn
Quote from: Ashley on April 08, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
On Good Friday I went to Walsall hoping to find B10L's in service but I didn't see any.
However I did see 17 Walsall B6LE's in service, 4129 and 4136 were on the 29, 4374 was on the 41
On Tuesday3rd I got on 1646 on route 141, there was another Merc, sorry I didn't get the fleetnumber
Yesterday (7th), 1423 1434 1436 1438 and 1440 were on the 71/72 with some scanias and volvos. 2099 and 4023 were on the 37.1519 and 1615 were on route 205. 1549 and 1677 were on route 27.
Just thought I'd share those with anybody interested
Yeah they are, any pensnett routes that don't currently get use of the new volvos its alsmot solid mercs which I don't mind because some are in good condition, as well as the B6's
Of the B6 that remain at Pensnett, which routes are still solid B6 operated? Is it the 222, 243 & 244? I have seen more Mercs of late on the 222, the 243 normally uses Mercs of evenings etc
The 238 still sees alot of b6le which im suprised with as at WB it was merc operated and with mercs becoming available at Pensnett it still see's mostly b6le's with the occasional merc
Routes 222, 243/244 are still mostly B6's. Posslby the 238 but that one I'm not too sure on
Apparently the 238 used to interchange with the 297 at Merry Hill. I don't think this is possible now, as the 297 doesn't terminate there now.
Correct the 238 and 297 are now on separate running boards. The 238 was rerouted in the Cradley area to make it possible to be run reliably by 4 vehicles.
I spotted Enviro 400 Hybrid 5405 on Route 24 today in the City Centre it was in front of the bus I was on and that was 1947 on the 72E going to Solihull at about 9:40am ;)
I've seen Hybrids being used on the 24 on a Sunday before, and it is a Sunday service today ;)
Ive seen a Volvo B5HL on the 24 before when I got on the 23 but havent saw a Enviro400 hybrid on the 24
Quote from: Ashley on April 09, 2012, 12:23:57 AM
Routes 222, 243/244 are still mostly B6's. Posslby the 238 but that one I'm not too sure on
Since the recent changes, I've noticed:
205 remains fully Merc operated (this has been so since its extension to Wall Heath)
222 has begun to see many more Mercs, alongside the B6's, and Enviro 400s on Sundays interworking with the 141.
238 is predomiently B6 operated in the week with occasional Merc and generally fully Merc operated on Sundays - something that I have never understood with the 238, the frequency being the same Mon to Sun and weak B6's struggling up to Rowley Hopsital and again up to Blackheath during the week ???
243/4 being a mixture of B6's, Mercs and the occasional new Volvo, still interchanging at Dudley, and frequently missing or late at busy periods.
276 recently seeing an 'every other mix' between B6's and Mercs, with the very occasional new Volvo - again B6's used on a service which links Dudley to Merry Hill and itself is a cross Merry Hill service :o
297/A mainly Mercs
Like most are saying on here, will be interesting to see what allocation PE will end up with over the next few months.
Quote from: Rob H on April 09, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
I spotted Enviro 400 Hybrid 5405 on Route 24 today in the City Centre it was in front of the bus I was on and that was 1947 on the 72E going to Solihull at about 9:40am ;)
A 72E to Solihull from the City Centre? Sounds like the full 72 to me.
Quote from: Michael on April 09, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 09, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
I spotted Enviro 400 Hybrid 5405 on Route 24 today in the City Centre it was in front of the bus I was on and that was 1947 on the 72E going to Solihull at about 9:40am ;)
A 72E to Solihull from the City Centre? Sounds like the full 72 to me.
It was only going to Solihull Town Centre ;)
Quote from: Rob H on April 09, 2012, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 09, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Rob H on April 09, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
I spotted Enviro 400 Hybrid 5405 on Route 24 today in the City Centre it was in front of the bus I was on and that was 1947 on the 72E going to Solihull at about 9:40am ;)
A 72E to Solihull from the City Centre? Sounds like the full 72 to me.
It was only going to Solihull Town Centre ;)
Seems like a silly working. The amount of time it takes to get to Solihull Town Centre, they may as well extend it 30 bloody seconds to the Station lol.
Quote from: davey on April 09, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
222 has begun to see many more Mercs, alongside the B6's, and Enviro 400s on Sundays interworking with the 141.
The 222 didn't interwork today when I was at merry Hill about 1500hrs (Sunday service)
I saw 5402 and 5502 on the 24 the other day, looked quite smart.
Quote from: Stu on April 09, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
I've seen Hybrids being used on the 24 on a Sunday before, and it is a Sunday service today ;)
I've seen 4292, 4089 & 4268 on the 89.
4713 on the 447
I saw an enviro on the 3E the other day.
4431 on the 14, I suppose that can classed as rare considered they are mainly dennis trident operated.
630 on the 45 and 24, with blank route blinds.
630 on the 45? That's got to be the best one. 4431 on the 14 isn't reall a rare, it uses a mix of all types of BC Trident, as with the 90 and 97.
1521 was also seen on the 238 but yesterday 555 was on the 238 dunno wether b6le is the usual allocation on a sunday service
I understand the 238 will shortly be all operated by Mercs, these will come off the 243/244 allocation. And the 222 Sunday operation will no longer interwork with the 141.
Quote from: Tomjusttom on April 09, 2012, 11:03:12 PM
Quote from: davey on April 09, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
222 has begun to see many more Mercs, alongside the B6's, and Enviro 400s on Sundays interworking with the 141.
The 222 didn't interwork today when I was at merry Hill about 1500hrs (Sunday service)
Ok I stand corrected! 510 appeared on the 2042 141 to merry hill ex Cradley Heath tonight...and the journey is part of.... The 222 running board!
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Ok I stand corrected! 510 appeared on the 2042 141 to merry hill ex Cradley Heath tonight...and the journey is part of.... The 222 running board!
I remember, some time ago now, just after the 141 got transferred to PE, and when it used to run via Blackheath, seeing a b6le (can't remeber which one!) doing the full run. I can remember thinking the people of Brum must be shocked :o.
Two Pensnett unusual workings - 2090 on the 205 last Wednesday (1700 ex Kingswinford) and 4803 on the 276 today (leaving Merry Hill towards Dudley at about 0950).
Quote from: davey on April 11, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
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Ok I stand corrected! 510 appeared on the 2042 141 to merry hill ex Cradley Heath tonight...and the journey is part of.... The 222 running board!
I remember, some time ago now, just after the 141 got transferred to PE, and when it used to run via Blackheath, seeing a b6le (can't remeber which one!) doing the full run. I can remember thinking the people of Brum must be shocked :o.
If I recall correctly, didn't BC used to use Enviro400 and Plaxton Presidents on the 141? I can remember on the Sunday that Lea Hall closed, and the 9 and 141 transferred from BC to PE, there were Mercs all over the 141 that day!
And actually I can remember also catching a B6LE on the 120 from Broad Street, that was a cramped experience! :o
1801/1803 - made a rare apperance on the 97 today
4104 - Made a rare apperance on the 14
And the 934/A are going Volvo operated :'(
4101 out on the S1 today. The B10's must be nearly extinct at AG!
Quote from: 966 on April 11, 2012, 07:58:33 PM
4101 out on the S1 today. The B10's must be nearly extinct at AG!
Not that rare an occurence really. I think at some point, every type of vehicle used at AG has appeared on the S1 route at some point. Certainly, I've seen B6LEs, B10Ls, Omnilinks, Geminis and Presidents all appearing before. I may be wrong, but I may even have seen a Metrobus the once!
Been a couple of B10Ls recently used on the 1 service, AG must be trying to get every last bit of mileage out of them! ;D
2082 of PE was on the 276 last night heading to Dudley
I hardly ever see transbus tridents on the 14, so whenever I see it, it's seems like a surprise, especially considering the 14 has branded dennis tridents
Quote from: Ashley on April 10, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
630 on the 45? That's got to be the best one. 4431 on the 14 isn't reall a rare, it uses a mix of all types of BC Trident, as with the 90 and 97.
I saw an omnilink on the 73, if you can call that rare
Quote from: KayP on April 13, 2012, 07:42:26 PM
I saw an omnilink on the 73, if you can call that rare
Ye becuase there normally Plaxton Operated ;D
4577 made a rare apperance on service 447
4100 made a rare apperance on service 449
4577? a WN trident? - unlikely
4527 not 4577 simple mistake Sorry
An excel on the 79 :O bet that was cosy on there for the passengers especially now it operates every 20 minutes
Quote from: thetruth on April 14, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
Excel 687 was on the 79 today.....
Quote from: Ash on April 14, 2012, 10:17:48 PM
An excel on the 79 :O bet that was cosy on there for the passengers especially now it operates every 20 minutes
Quote from: thetruth on April 14, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
Excel 687 was on the 79 today.....
Excels get on there quite often. Plus it's only every 20 to West Bromwich remember
Yeah thats why i said it would be quite overcrowded because it's every 20 minutes especially if the 75 is delayed coming from Birmingham which is very likely
Quote from: NathanJC on April 16, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
7023 is now @ PB
That is why I post the fleet changes on the front of the main page, and list all the allocations next to the vehciles on the fleetlist pages. Both will tell you 7023 is at PB
Its been there for some time too now. ::)
2109 - Made an apperance on the 1 (Birmingham - Acocks Green)
1430 - made a rare apperance on the 31
1616 - Made a rare apperance on the 141
4800 - Made a rare apperance on the 222
633 - apperared again on the 24
5406 - Made a shocking apperance on the 24
4077/4107 - Made a rare apperance on the 97/A
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote2109 - Made an apperance on the 1 (Birmingham - Acocks Green)
I've spotted a couple of the new B7RLEs on the 1 in the mornings recently, and a couple been sneaking onto the 37 too.
Quote1430 - made a rare apperance on the 31
Not that rare really, it and several other B10Ls have made appearances on this service before.
Quote1616 - Made a rare apperance on the 141
Up until recently, Mercedes O405Ns were commonly used on the 141 during the week.
Quote5406 - Made a shocking apperance on the 24
Hybrids do get used on the 24 on Sundays, as not as many are needed for the 22 and 23.
Yesterday I saw a B7TL/ALX400 up at Maypole, not in service. It certainly wasnt a Trident. Plus there were at least 4 or 5 Tridents on route 50 (April 16th)
Quote from: Ashley on April 17, 2012, 07:23:27 PM
Yesterday I saw a B7TL/ALX400 up at Maypole, not in service. It certainly wasnt a Trident. Plus there were at least 4 or 5 Tridents on route 50 (April 16th)
Could the B7TL have been working the PB Waterlinks service that goes through Maypole and the expressway towards Redditch.
I've also noticed an increasing number of Tridents on the 50, with Enviros finding themselves onto Solihull routes like the 6 & 49 with one being on the 2!
Would of been good to have seen it in West Brom pitty it didnt sneak onto the 404 never any double deckers on here since Walsall have taken over the service :(
Quote from: thetruth on April 17, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
Enviro400 4874 was seen in West Bromwich this afternoon out of service.
(Not a working as such but unusual to see one here).
I didn't know Waterlinks was in that area. I saw it from a distance but I just found it unusual
I thought the PB Waterlinks contract service was for the Waterlinks business park off the Lichfield Road in Aston! And they usually use Optare Solos for that.
That is the Waterlinks contract, although it is a Scania (usually 7022) not a solo.
The one at the Maypole is the Brittanic Assurance contract
I stand corrected then! It did used to be an Optare Solo though, am I right?
there was 1661 a merc on the no.1 today. very unusual to see a single decker on there.
Today, 1888 was on the 636 and I also saw a Diamond Hybrid on the 417. Diamond Hybrid Versas 30130 and 30135 were on the 002 yesterday 19th April.
There is a hybrid on the 404E aswell today too, 1888 on the 636 are you sure?, also there was a gemini interworking the 405/6 which i have never seen before.
Not saying your wrong mike, but are you sure it wasn't 1790 or 1792? or even 1808.
Viewed 1809 in Castle Bromwich on the 59 tonight.
Sorry it was 1788 Scania Omnilink. Typing error.
2096 on the 238 today - I almost fell over :P
Quote from: Ash on April 20, 2012, 05:19:28 PM
There is a hybrid on the 404E aswell today too, 1888 on the 636 are you sure?, also there was a gemini interworking the 405/6 which i have never seen before.
see photo on main site for photograph
2080 - made a rare apperance on 238, look weird seeing a new B7RLE2 in WB
2 diamond hybrid Versa's made it on 404E today alongside a Operate Solo ;D
238, 297, 120,140, and 241 are b7 operated every sunday.
Also the 141 mon-fri am extra is now b7 operated from tuesday
Quote from: NathanJC on April 22, 2012, 07:39:01 PM
2080 - made a rare apperance on 238, look weird seeing a new B7RLE2 in WB
2 diamond hybrid Versa's made it on 404E today alongside a Operate Solo ;D
The hybrids are normally appear on the 404E on a sunday along with centro's but saturday there were 2 versa's and a centro, im sure most diamond routes will see versa's at some time as the rest have been/ or are being delivered.
Nice to see an increase in capacity on the 238 with larger single deckers it really needed it hope its now fully merc operated weekdays
Quote from: richie on April 22, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
238, 297, 120,140, and 241 are b7 operated every sunday.
Also the 141 mon-fri am extra is now b7 operated from tuesday
120 is B7RLE operated Mon-Sun already ;D
140 is BR7LE operated Mon-Sun already with the odd Merc ;D which soon wont be able to enter B'Ham, So this new emmison has its ups 8)
& I didnt know about 238/297 being BR7LE operated an the 140 & 241 interwork so therfore the 241 would have B7RLE's anyways ;D
& what about service 276/X96
An I thought them new Hybrids were for the 56/56A but so far 2 hybrids operate that route an the other journeys are operated by Dennis Dart SLF's/Volvo B7RLE (Pn B45F), so therfore were are the Hybrids going other than on the 404E
Pensnett seem to be moving their buses around more since they got the B7RLE's. For instance, at Merry Hill this morning 4804 was on the X96 to Wrens Nest, while 2084 was operating the 141 to Birmingham.
Quote from: Roy on April 24, 2012, 02:59:22 PM
Pensnett seem to be moving their buses around more since they got the B7RLE's. For instance, at Merry Hill this morning 4804 was on the X96 to Wrens Nest, while 2084 was operating the 141 to Birmingham.
One 141 card is B7 and you can bet that X96 is the one that departs late from the garage prob got no buses!
There's been a number of the alx200 small darts on the 405/6 recently and at peak times these routes can see double deckers so i bet it was a tight squeeze using these buses, but a smaller bus is better than no bus i suppose
Quote from: Ash on April 24, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
There's been a number of the alx200 small darts on the 405/6 recently and at peak times these routes can see double deckers so i bet it was a tight squeeze using these buses, but a smaller bus is better than no bus i suppose
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Bigger buses are better for certain routes e,g, 75/75/405/406, but WB have placed Dennis Darts on the 74/75, it quite funny of how the Darts reach full capacity before leaving Birmingham ;D ;D
No they haven't put Darts on the 74/75! I think there has been about one in the last 6 months covering a breakdown
Your right there, I have never seen anything but a B7TL or a Gemini on the 74, though a couple of photos of Merc's on the route have appeared though not regularly whatsover as I'm in Dudley every day
Yeah i have never saw a dart on the 74/75 but i have seen one on the 87, they are quite rare to see on other routes apart from the normal ones they operate they do occasionally appear on the 428/9
I havent seen a merc on the full length 74 for ages and not suprised they wouldnt be able to cope with capacity especially as there now every 10 minutes between West Brom and Dudley
Remember the dart on the 1! Looked cute haha
Yes forgot about them being on the 1 wasnt that when the darts worked the same running board as the president when there was a cricket match at Edgbaston CC also they were used on the 17 at Bordesley
AG had two Darts on loan for a time to operate a shuttle service while the 11 was on diversion and one did appear on an extra working of the 1 during a test series at Edgbaston, and yes Tony does have a pic of one sneaking onto the 17:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/3225-3614/3613.html
There was a photo of the one on the 1, what happened to that one Tony?
They used to sneak onto the 17 quite a bit while at Bordesley.
276/X96 don't operate evenings and sundays but both are fully operated by Mercs. More B7RLE's are appearing on the 246. Yesterday there was an Enviro400 on the X96 around 5pm in Stourbridge
Ashley, I think you'll find that the 276 & X96 work both evenings & Sundays
Quote from: Ashley on April 25, 2012, 11:34:36 AM
276/X96 don't operate evenings and sundays but both are fully operated by Mercs. More B7RLE's are appearing on the 246. Yesterday there was an Enviro400 on the X96 around 5pm in Stourbridge
There were 3 hybrid versa's on the 404E today 30128-9 and 30134 it is unusual to see more than one on the service.
Ive seen Darts on the 74/17 thats all
Quote from: Ash on April 25, 2012, 05:20:59 PM
There were 3 hybrid versa's on the 404E today 30128-9 and 30134 it is unusual to see more than one on the service.
Wasnt they originally for the 56/A but so far ive seen 2/3 buses on there, an the rest have apperared on others routes 404/401E
The odd 1 has appeared on the 16
Never saw them on the 16 or 401E are you sure they werent the solo's as i have only saw them personally on the 002,56,404E,410 and 417
Yeah they do operate but I think they are operated by other operators like Diamond, unless thats changed. There was a Merc or two on the 74 sometime last year but having Darts on it would be impossible
i saw the B7 on the 238 sunday. pensnett are brave having one of them on so soon round here LOL supprised it was not set on fire.
They were brought for the 120/140/241 sir.
297, 238,120,140,241 and hopefully soon to be X96 are B7 on a sunday
1756 was on the 51 saw at perry barr at 16:10 is it normal to see eclispes on the 51 around this time, also whilst on the 404 saw a diamond hybrid broken down
Quote from: Ash on April 26, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
1756 was on the 51 saw at perry barr at 16:10 is it normal to see eclispes on the 51 around this time, also whilst on the 404 saw a diamond hybrid broken down
It was on the 51 all day, I saw it and took a pic around 10am
Yeah just saw a pic of it on your flickr site :)
This week, one of the morning schools services local to me, which runs to Bishops Walsh School in Walmley (I think it's numbered 874, but don't quote me!) seems to have changed to single deck operation. PB has rostered a B10L twice this week .... today it was 1451.
I don't know if this is a temporary move or what, but I've only ever known it as a d/d operation before now.
After discharging at Bishops Walsh, I believe the vehicle runs light to Sutton Town Centre and then takes up duty possibly on the 904 - (correct me if I'm wrong, Tony!) :D
Today 1800 appeared on My Route 60 and that's the second Omnilink I've seen on the 60 the first being 1793 and that was in early 2011 :)
1526 was on the 80 unusual to see the Dudley road branded mercs on the route even though the 80 does serve the dudley road also 4534 on the 447 but double deckers are becoming common on this route recently
There's a Scania on the 1 today working the usual Eclipse board, so the 71/72 must be all Eclipse today. There is still a second Eclipse on the 1 as usual. Like I said before their arrival, 23 Eclipses is too much for the 71 & 72 and instead replaced everything previously B10 operated, so it's just a matter of time before one appears on the 31. :)
Quote from: Ossie on April 26, 2012, 11:57:53 PM
This week, one of the morning schools services local to me, which runs to Bishops Walsh School in Walmley (I think it's numbered 874, but don't quote me!) seems to have changed to single deck operation. PB has rostered a B10L twice this week .... today it was 1451.
I don't know if this is a temporary move or what, but I've only ever known it as a d/d operation before now.
After discharging at Bishops Walsh, I believe the vehicle runs light to Sutton Town Centre and then takes up duty possibly on the 904 - (correct me if I'm wrong, Tony!) :D
PB seem to be using more singles in general lately, they have been Scanias and B10's on the 7's all weeks along with DD.
Theres was a B10 on the 65 around lunch time dont know if this is a regular working
Quote from: Ash on April 25, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
Never saw them on the 16 or 401E are you sure they werent the solo's as i have only saw them personally on the 002,56,404E,410 and 417
one thw 401E it may have been a solo then, i only got a quick glance at it
I have never saw one on the 002
it would be nice to see 1 appear on the 50
501 appeared on the 451 Friday
No it didn't!
501 was scrapped a long time ago
Saw a toothpaste liveried omnilink coming out of Knowle today (Sunday) Was showing not in service so don't know if it was a private charter or even route training but to my knowledge NXWM don't operate in Knowle its only Blue Diamond so doubt it would be route training! Any ideas on what it was doing?
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2012, 11:50:16 AM
No it didn't!
501 was scrapped a long time ago
How, i saw it on the Kingstanding circle heading towards Sutton Coldfeild
Quote from: NathanJC on April 29, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2012, 11:50:16 AM
No it didn't!
501 was scrapped a long time ago
How, i saw it on the Kingstanding circle heading towards Sutton Coldfeild
You didn't. If you look on the main site I have put full histories of all NXWM buses on there. I am currently doing the same with all operators.
Here is my photo of 501 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0718/501.html
The full history is above the photograph, finishing with 'Sold to EMR, Darlaston for scrap 9/11. It has long since become dog food cans
Could it have been 591 instead, as thats the closest mid read fleet number to 501 I can think of. A b6le on the 451 is rare especially when there not that many left at WB
The other problem is I know West Bromwich didn't allocate any B6s to the 451 on Friday, that doesn't mean there wasn't one on ther because occasionally a bus will be changed after a breakdown, but I was watching the 451 on Friday, see this photo I took of 4522 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4522.html
I certainly didn't see anything that looked remotely like 501
Quote from: 966 on April 29, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
Saw a toothpaste liveried omnilink coming out of Knowle today (Sunday) Was showing not in service so don't know if it was a private charter or even route training but to my knowledge NXWM don't operate in Knowle its only Blue Diamond so doubt it would be route training! Any ideas on what it was doing?
It was on rail replacement duties, as there were no trains operating between Birmingham Snow Hill and Dorridge today until 12pm.
Quote from: Stu on April 29, 2012, 07:53:10 PM
Quote from: 966 on April 29, 2012, 02:47:09 PM
Saw a toothpaste liveried omnilink coming out of Knowle today (Sunday) Was showing not in service so don't know if it was a private charter or even route training but to my knowledge NXWM don't operate in Knowle its only Blue Diamond so doubt it would be route training! Any ideas on what it was doing?
It was on rail replacement duties, as there were no trains operating between Birmingham Snow Hill and Dorridge today until 12pm.
Thanks Stu, Perry Barr seem to run a lot of rail replacement duties, so it must have been one of theirs.
Enviro 4826 spotted in Gornal Wood bus station Not in Service, imagine that's the first time an Enviro has graced lowly Gornal bus station!
There was a B6 (possibly 677, was hard to see) on the 60 this morning, never seen that before...
677 should still be a Pensnett bus unless its moved in the last few days
Quote from: Abluhwleh on April 30, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
There was a B6 (possibly 677, was hard to see) on the 60 this morning, never seen that before...
Quote from: winston on April 30, 2012, 04:42:18 PM
677 should still be a Pensnett bus unless its moved in the last few days
Quote from: Abluhwleh on April 30, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
There was a B6 (possibly 677, was hard to see) on the 60 this morning, never seen that before...
677 stil at pensnett
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
The other problem is I know West Bromwich didn't allocate any B6s to the 451 on Friday, that doesn't mean there wasn't one on ther because occasionally a bus will be changed after a breakdown, but I was watching the 451 on Friday, see this photo I took of 4522 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4522.html
I certainly didn't see anything that looked remotely like 501
It was a red & white B6LE, but it couldnt have been 501 as the it was in a red, white & blue livery when sold to EMR
it possibly could have been 591, but the fleet number looked like 501 ::)
Not sure if you call this a rare working but I would,
1462 apperaed on the 904/914 today (as the 904/914 interwork at Sutton)
Pretty sure I saw a WN B7RLE on the 529 on the Willenhall Road around the time of that car crash.
Quote from: NathanJC on April 30, 2012, 04:57:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
The other problem is I know West Bromwich didn't allocate any B6s to the 451 on Friday, that doesn't mean there wasn't one on ther because occasionally a bus will be changed after a breakdown, but I was watching the 451 on Friday, see this photo I took of 4522 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4522.html
I certainly didn't see anything that looked remotely like 501
It was a red & white B6LE, but it couldnt have been 501 as the it was in a red, white & blue livery when sold to EMR
I think the fact it was sold to EMR is more important than the livery. There were certainly no B6s on 451 when I was watching the route, so must have been later, what time did you see it
Omnilink on the 957 today in Solihull this evening.
B7RLE appeared on the X96 this evening
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Does a B7RLE Urban 2 on the 1 (Acocks Green - Birmingham) count as a rare working anymore? ::)
Quote from: Stu on April 30, 2012, 09:09:19 PM
Does a B7RLE Urban 2 on the 1 (Acocks Green - Birmingham) count as a rare working anymore? ::)
To most people on this group probably, as I reckon their mainly from North Birmingham and hardly any have been on the service! To us, no lol.
PE today had 5 Enviro's! on the 246 + 2 B7's, that has to be something of a record. For once it almost appeared to be the showcase route that it should be!
640 was out on the 24 today ;)
Makes you wonder what was on the 141 that day. On Friday lunchtime when I had a look to see what was in Pensnett garage, there was 4-5 Hagley Road branded Enviros parked up out of use between the peaks. Seems a waste of useful resources.....
Quote from: wilmotm on May 01, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
PE today had 5 Enviro's! on the 246 + 2 B7's, that has to be something of a record. For once it almost appeared to be the showcase route that it should be!
Even more impressively these 5 Enviro's were all the plain unbranded from 4800 to 4810 so did not look out of place in Brierley Hill with horrible green branding declaring every 8 minutes along the Hagley Road! This makes you think that perhaps the 5 Enviro's on the 246 were actually planned to have been there!
Saw an ALX400 on the 447 the other day
There was a B7 on the 222 last thursday looked like it was struggling
Quote from: 4504 on May 01, 2012, 08:28:26 PM
Saw an ALX400 on the 447 the other day
Double deckers getting more frequent on the 447, but it seems whatever is spare gets used on the service its a mix of all types even the Alx 200 darts get used occasionally
I don't think that's at all necessary. I live close to the 447/448 route and the 447 doesn't justify doubles for me
Quote from: Ash on May 01, 2012, 08:54:45 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 01, 2012, 08:28:26 PM
Saw an ALX400 on the 447 the other day
Double deckers getting more frequent on the 447, but it seems whatever is spare gets used on the service its a mix of all types even the Alx 200 darts get used occasionally
I can only think of one other time so many Enviros have been on the 246 in the same day, one saturday last year I think there wer 2 B6s, a few Mercs and possibly 4 or 5 Enviros
3 out of 3 246 seen this afternoon were Enviros again
Quote from: wilmotm on May 01, 2012, 02:01:50 PM
PE today had 5 Enviro's! on the 246 + 2 B7's, that has to be something of a record. For once it almost appeared to be the showcase route that it should be!
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Sadley politics dictate that the 141 should be DD
I saw a B7RLE on the 141 today.
I think it was 2080
Quote from: 4504 on May 02, 2012, 07:34:22 PM
I saw a B7RLE on the 141 today.
I think it was 2080
I seen 598 on the 141 in Bearwood the other day ;)
Quote from: 4504 on May 02, 2012, 07:34:22 PM
I saw a B7RLE on the 141 today.
I think it was 2080
Well that explains where at least one of the much needed extra Enviro's on the 246 came from. How full did it look? And how full does the 141 usually get? As I said the Enviro on the 246 was packed, would it have been as packed running the 141? I somehow think no as I've never seen an anywhere near full Enviro on the 141.
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
I'm pretty sure PB are also struggling for double deckers as it is, which is why single deckers are used on the 907 when double deckers are needed due to overcrowding/complaints. Today according to the photo below a Solo appeared on the 907, which I'm sure went down really well with passengers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6990134238/in/photostream
Plan A - was meant to be new Enviros in to PB for 33, while 8/9 B10L were withdrawn and possibly 5 07/57 reg Enviros would transfer to PE
Plan B - was in fact a handful of B10L withdrawn, while B&TL/ALX400 & B7TL/Wright Gemini were transferred to WB instead
I'd be very surprised if YW could spare any Enviros from the 50
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
I'm pretty sure PB are also struggling for double deckers as it is, which is why single deckers are used on the 907 when double deckers are needed due to overcrowding/complaints. Today according to the photo below a Solo appeared on the 907, which I'm sure went down really well with passengers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6990134238/in/photostream
Plan A - was meant to be new Enviros in to PB for 33, while 8/9 B10L were withdrawn and possibly 5 07/57 reg Enviros would transfer to PE
Plan B - was in fact a handful of B10L withdrawn, while B&TL/ALX400 & B7TL/Wright Gemini were transferred to WB instead
I'd be very surprised if YW could spare any Enviros from the 50
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
There's always one or two Enviros elsewhere, but then, recently there has been a Trident on the 50, which look very out of place for some reason! Probably because I don't get Tridents around on my local routes anymore!
I'm sure Pensnett could then gain some Tridents from somewhere, or even Presidents if the 246 really is desperate for Deckers. I'm sure NX can spare one or the other from somewhere! In the interest of withdrawing Mercs, perhaps BC could send some to Pensnett as replacements. Having said all that, I find it highly unlikely, but it's still a possibilty isn't it? The Volvo B7TLs would fit in nicely with the recent B7RLEs, and with them having 4-5 year old interiors, it can't be all that bad.
I think I've already suggested Presidents as an option for the 246 on another thread, there should be plenty going spare...... It would certainly get over the capacity problems on the 246 & others could be used on busy running boards on routes such as the 222, 276 & X96 to increase capacity. Any spare Enviros could then be used on the busiest running boards on routes 120, 241 etc which suffer from overcrowding at school times I believe.
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
I'm pretty sure PB are also struggling for double deckers as it is, which is why single deckers are used on the 907 when double deckers are needed due to overcrowding/complaints. Today according to the photo below a Solo appeared on the 907, which I'm sure went down really well with passengers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6990134238/in/photostream
Plan A - was meant to be new Enviros in to PB for 33, while 8/9 B10L were withdrawn and possibly 5 07/57 reg Enviros would transfer to PE
Plan B - was in fact a handful of B10L withdrawn, while B&TL/ALX400 & B7TL/Wright Gemini were transferred to WB instead
I'd be very surprised if YW could spare any Enviros from the 50
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
There's always one or two Enviros elsewhere, but then, recently there has been a Trident on the 50, which look very out of place for some reason! Probably because I don't get Tridents around on my local routes anymore!
I'm sure Pensnett could then gain some Tridents from somewhere, or even Presidents if the 246 really is desperate for Deckers. I'm sure NX can spare one or the other from somewhere! In the interest of withdrawing Mercs, perhaps BC could send some to Pensnett as replacements. Having said all that, I find it highly unlikely, but it's still a possibilty isn't it? The Volvo B7TLs would fit in nicely with the recent B7RLEs, and with them having 4-5 year old interiors, it can't be all that bad.
Are PB struggling with deckers? I've heard the 71A uses double deckers when they're not required, and there was a gemini working on the 952 (4513). I think presidents to PE would work, but does the 246 need deckers, it seemed to cope fine when the 311 was running along with the 246, and the last time I got on an enviro on the 246 it was empty, but I don't really catch it too often so I can't really comment that much.
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
I'm pretty sure PB are also struggling for double deckers as it is, which is why single deckers are used on the 907 when double deckers are needed due to overcrowding/complaints. Today according to the photo below a Solo appeared on the 907, which I'm sure went down really well with passengers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6990134238/in/photostream
Plan A - was meant to be new Enviros in to PB for 33, while 8/9 B10L were withdrawn and possibly 5 07/57 reg Enviros would transfer to PE
Plan B - was in fact a handful of B10L withdrawn, while B&TL/ALX400 & B7TL/Wright Gemini were transferred to WB instead
I'd be very surprised if YW could spare any Enviros from the 50
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
Not sure about PB then, I can only go on what I've seen reported. It may be more of an allocation issue with the 907 then, but I think that there are quite a number of issues/complaints regarding overcrowding on the single deckers used on the 907.
The 246 is a busy route, single deckers are fine during the day, but it's in the peaks when they struggle.
Quote from: 4504 on May 02, 2012, 10:09:14 PM
Are PB struggling with deckers? I've heard the 71A uses double deckers when they're not required, and there was a gemini working on the 952 (4513). I think presidents to PE would work, but does the 246 need deckers, it seemed to cope fine when the 311 was running along with the 246, and the last time I got on an enviro on the 246 it was empty, but I don't really catch it too often so I can't really comment that much.
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 09:03:27 PM
I'm pretty sure PB are also struggling for double deckers as it is, which is why single deckers are used on the 907 when double deckers are needed due to overcrowding/complaints. Today according to the photo below a Solo appeared on the 907, which I'm sure went down really well with passengers.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6990134238/in/photostream
Plan A - was meant to be new Enviros in to PB for 33, while 8/9 B10L were withdrawn and possibly 5 07/57 reg Enviros would transfer to PE
Plan B - was in fact a handful of B10L withdrawn, while B&TL/ALX400 & B7TL/Wright Gemini were transferred to WB instead
I'd be very surprised if YW could spare any Enviros from the 50
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Quote from: winston on May 02, 2012, 06:50:53 PM
I guess they could always use the spare B7RLE on the 141 and keep as many Enviros on the busiest 246 running boards. Pensnett do definitely need additional double deckers but I don't know where they could source them from internally, that is until any new ones are delivered at least.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 02, 2012, 06:11:38 PM
Yes I counted 5 once more and two B7RLE again today. Two days in a row. Well done PE on the 246 over the last couple of days. I wonder where they have suddenly found these Enviro's from? My only guess is that the 141 has seen a few Merc's on it instead, but come the Summer when this isn't allowed the 246 could be relegated to just the couple of Enviro's again, I really hope a solution is found fairly quickly. As the Double Decker I was on today was absolutely packed full with all top deck seats occupied!
Perhaps BC can send three Scanias to Perry Barr or Yardley Wood and then three Enviros to Pensnett? Three would be enough wouldn't it? The 141 could then be partly Enviro operated, or just B7RLE operated, depending on what sort of allocations Pensnett have on routes.
I'm sorry but since when was 4513 at Perry Barr. I might not have been on the ball about 4509, but I'm pretty sure 4513 isn't at Perry Barr!
No 4513 is at AG but wont be suprised if it makes its way to WB
Oh well... Like I keep up with PBs fleet list, all I know is a saw a gemini on colmore row with 952 route programmed into it, presumely coming from a shift on the 7/101
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 10:22:53 PM
I'm sorry but since when was 4513 at Perry Barr. I might not have been on the ball about 4509, but I'm pretty sure 4513 isn't at Perry Barr!
Quote from: Ash on May 02, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
No 4513 is at AG but wont be suprised if it makes its way to WB
Quite sure it's already at West Bromwich.
2078 on the X96 today
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 02, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
No 4513 is at AG but wont be suprised if it makes its way to WB
Quite sure it's already at West Bromwich.
Mistaken. Seen in Acocks Green on the 31 today, although it could have been 4518. 4520/32 still here too.
Quote from: Michael on May 03, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 02, 2012, 11:25:11 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 02, 2012, 11:03:32 PM
No 4513 is at AG but wont be suprised if it makes its way to WB
Quite sure it's already at West Bromwich.
Mistaken. Seen in Acocks Green on the 31 today, although it could have been 4518. 4520/32 still here too.
... and 4519 ;)
1688 on the 79 today mercs appearing alot recently on the service
Quote from: Ash on May 03, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
1688 on the 79 today mercs appearing alot recently on the service
I take it 1688 has moved to WN ;)
Quote from: Rob H on May 03, 2012, 10:28:15 PM
I take it 1688 has moved to WN ;)
Yes, to replace an Excel I guess
Yes it was defo 1688 saw it in West Brom bus station checked the fleet number a few times to make sure it was right lol, it seems like BY mercs are going to West brom and Wolverhampton at the moment
Some were also due to be joining Pensnett to allow earlier ones to be withdrawn, but plans could have since changed
Quote from: Ash on May 03, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
Yes it was defo 1688 saw it in West Brom bus station checked the fleet number a few times to make sure it was right lol, it seems like BY mercs are going to West brom and Wolverhampton at the moment
Would have loved to see that operate Solo on the 907 at Peak times :o
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May 2nd
4685 - made an apperance on the 935 ???, looked wierd seeing that back on the 935
1790 - made a rare apperance on the 957
4154 - made a rare apperance on the 50
30132 (Hybrid Diamond) made a rare apperance on the 50
May 3rd
1805 - Made a rare apperance on 636
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
4388 - made an apperance on the 50 alongside 4363
Saw 3 Spectras on the 11 (Wolves) while I was in Park Village which is unusual becuase usually there's only 1 Spectra on it.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 04, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Would have loved to see that operate Solo on the 907 at Peak times :o
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May 2nd
4685 - made an apperance on the 935 ???, looked wierd seeing that back on the 935
1790 - made a rare apperance on the 957
4154 - made a rare apperance on the 50
30132 (Hybrid Diamond) made a rare apperance on the 50
May 3rd
1805 - Made a rare apperance on 636
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
4388 - made an apperance on the 50 alongside 4363
Today 1 Omnilink was on the 636 it was either 1806 or 1816 couldn't see it clearly :) and another Omnilink was on my route 60 think it was 1813 ;)
1826 isn't ex BC, it has been at BY since April 2011 and came from PB
Quote from: NathanJC on May 04, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Would have loved to see that operate Solo on the 907 at Peak times :o
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May 2nd
4685 - made an apperance on the 935 ???, looked wierd seeing that back on the 935
1790 - made a rare apperance on the 957
4154 - made a rare apperance on the 50
30132 (Hybrid Diamond) made a rare apperance on the 50
May 3rd
1805 - Made a rare apperance on 636
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
4388 - made an apperance on the 50 alongside 4363
Quote from: winston on May 04, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
1826 isn't ex BC, it has been at BY since April 2011 and came from PB
Quote from: NathanJC on May 04, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
Would have loved to see that operate Solo on the 907 at Peak times :o
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May 2nd
4685 - made an apperance on the 935 ???, looked wierd seeing that back on the 935
1790 - made a rare apperance on the 957
4154 - made a rare apperance on the 50
30132 (Hybrid Diamond) made a rare apperance on the 50
May 3rd
1805 - Made a rare apperance on 636
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
4388 - made an apperance on the 50 alongside 4363
Well, that may be Winston, however, there was a period between January and March where 1826 and 1827 were appearing regualy on the X62/4, so it must have been loaned to BC for a little while. It's probably gone back now cos of the new vovvos which are strenghtening their grip on the X62/4 now
By the way, Nathan, I got on 1801 today and saw 1814 on the X62/4 so they still haven't gone yet
4768 today was out on the 77, i guess this is a rare working but as the gemini's look to be solely on the X51 then the leather enviro's that used to be used on certain journey may sneak on to other Walsall routes.
1848 was also out on the 6 having a break from the usual 404 run
Quote from: Phil on May 04, 2012, 07:07:24 PM
By the way, Nathan, I got on 1801 today and saw 1814 on the X62/4 so they still haven't gone yet
When are the ominilinks going ::)
When all the B7RLE's have been delivered & entered service, give them chance!
Quote from: NathanJC on May 05, 2012, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Phil on May 04, 2012, 07:07:24 PM
By the way, Nathan, I got on 1801 today and saw 1814 on the X62/4 so they still haven't gone yet
When are the ominilinks going ::)
Probably not an unusual working as such, but just saw 1-branded 4112 in Acocks Green, on an anti-clockwise 11E journey to 'Bearwood High Street'. There isn't a 'High Street' in Bearwood, I think it should read 'Bearwood Road'. ::)
1937 made a rare apperance on 73 yesterday (5th May 2012) 8)
since the excels started disappearing, their place on the 11's has been cascaded by mercs and spectras. Ive seen at least 3 on there a lot of the time, and even occasionally see a b7rle on there! It isnt uncommon now to find a spectra on the 32/33 either.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 04, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
Let's just review what you've just said, whether you're right or wrong.
You said that 1826 is at BY, which led you on to say that all BC Omnilinks must be at BY now. Fair comment, even though it's wrong.
You then go on to say that 1798 (an omnilink) was on the 957 which is a BC operated route. Your two comments contradict each other
4763 and 4769 were on the 51 today
Quote from: Michael on May 06, 2012, 03:52:03 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 04, 2012, 04:55:00 PM
1826 - made a rare apperance on 17 - So all BC ominilinks must be a BY now
1798 - another ominilink on the 957
Let's just review what you've just said, whether you're right or wrong.
You said that 1826 is at BY, which led you on to say that all BC Omnilinks must be at BY now. Fair comment, even though it's wrong.
You then go on to say that 1798 (an omnilink) was on the 957 which is a BC operated route. Your two comments contradict each other
Fair comment, are all of BC'S ominilinks going
Bearwood does have a high street as well as a small bus station. On the topic of the Outer I was in Kings Heath (Friday 4th) around 1830, 4638 then 4658 turned up with a gap in between them both showing 11E Perry Barr. If the route is run by Acocks Green, whats the point in terminating the buses miles away
Quote from: Ashley on May 06, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Bearwood does have a high street as well as a small bus station. On the topic of the Outer I was in Kings Heath (Friday 4th) around 1830, 4638 then 4658 turned up with a gap in between them both showing 11E Perry Barr. If the route is run by Acocks Green, whats the point in terminating the buses miles away
Some 11E's terminate at say Perry Barr and turn back as 11E's to Acocks Green. Whether all of the short journeys do that, I don't know.
Oh I didn't know that, thanks for the reply
Quote from: Michael on May 06, 2012, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: Ashley on May 06, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Bearwood does have a high street as well as a small bus station. On the topic of the Outer I was in Kings Heath (Friday 4th) around 1830, 4638 then 4658 turned up with a gap in between them both showing 11E Perry Barr. If the route is run by Acocks Green, whats the point in terminating the buses miles away
Some 11E's terminate at say Perry Barr and turn back as 11E's to Acocks Green. Whether all of the short journeys do that, I don't know.
A couple terminate at PB and run empty back to AG. At a guess, it may be to do with driver hours or to space buses out (i.e not have them all terminate at AG then giving pax travelling beyond AG a long wait).
QuoteBearwood does have a high street as well as a small bus station.
Yes I know that, but it is not called 'High Street', it is just Bearwood Road. ::)
Why is the 997/E single deck operated on Sundays?
Quote from: 4504 on May 07, 2012, 10:09:24 AM
Why is the 997/E single deck operated on Sundays?
For one, It does not need a double decker on it, as the two I travelled on on Sunday were not even half full, and also I think it might interwork with the 6, but am not sure though. I am sure that it does in the evenings, or it used to.
Quote from: John-s-91 on May 07, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
Quote from: 4504 on May 07, 2012, 10:09:24 AM
Why is the 997/E single deck operated on Sundays?
For one, It does not need a double decker on it, as the two I travelled on on Sunday were not even half full, and also I think it might interwork with the 6, but am not sure though. I am sure that it does in the evenings, or it used to.
Still interworks with the 6 of an evening spotted an 997 enviro on there last night while waiting for the 451
What bus runs the 997 on a Sunday then, and could of could of sworn I saw a b7rle on the 11 the other day on the city road.
Scanias and eclipses
Quote from: danny on May 07, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
What bus runs the 997 on a Sunday then, and could of could of sworn I saw a b7rle on the 11 the other day on the city road.
Today 1 Toothpaste Omnilink was out on the 900 couldn't get the fleet number, 4107 was out on the 97A & 4121 was out on the 900E :)
It was 1816 out on the 900. Just seen it heading away from airport along the A45.
Walsall Today
B10L on
70A-1479
77-1433
302-1434
8/89-1474
Just seen 1816 on the 957 too.
Does an omnilink on the 97A count?
A touchwood liveried dart on the 123. An optare solo on the 446
1941 was out on the 73 today :)
4068 on the S1
Quote from: 4504 on May 07, 2012, 11:30:31 PM
Scanias and eclipses
Quote from: danny on May 07, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
What bus runs the 997 on a Sunday then, and could of could of sworn I saw a b7rle on the 11 the other day on the city road.
Dont Scania's operate the 997E
and Eclpise operate the 997
I'm not too sure
Quote from: NathanJC on May 09, 2012, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 07, 2012, 11:30:31 PM
Scanias and eclipses
Quote from: danny on May 07, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
What bus runs the 997 on a Sunday then, and could of could of sworn I saw a b7rle on the 11 the other day on the city road.
Dont Scania's operate the 997E
and Eclpise operate the 997
Quote from: 4504 on May 09, 2012, 10:05:44 PM
I'm not too sure
Quote from: NathanJC on May 09, 2012, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 07, 2012, 11:30:31 PM
Scanias and eclipses
Quote from: danny on May 07, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
What bus runs the 997 on a Sunday then, and could of could of sworn I saw a b7rle on the 11 the other day on the city road.
Dont Scania's operate the 997E
and Eclpise operate the 997
No!
No-one allocating the buses would even think about something like that as the running boards numbers don't differentiate, they are just 997.xx. It is purely random which boards get which single decks
Is the 966 limited stop?
There was a WB Merc (unsure of fleet number) on the 74 today.
4245 was on the 33.
I stopped 1585 on the 75/E the other day
1581 or 1582 was seen on the 74E yesterday
Quote from: 4504 on May 10, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
Is the 966 limited stop?
No, I don't think it is.
Quote from: Stu on May 10, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 10, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
Is the 966 limited stop?
No, I don't think it is.
Was for many years though, which is why it has that number.
When launched it was limited stop between Wolverhampton & Walsall; Sutton Coldfield & Erdington; Castle Vale & Chelmsley Wood
Not sure which but there was a President on the 406 tonight (thursday)
I'm currently on 4130 on the X51 ;)
2091 was on the number 9 yesterday (10/05/12).
Also there seems to be at least 1 Hybrid on the 417 everyday now as I saw 30130 today and the 142 had a solo on today which was 20538.
Also what has happened to 30810 as that has been missing from the 002 for a good couple of weeks and replaced by a royale plaxton centro?
The hybrids regulary appear on the 404E (2 today) and 417 i havent seen diamond wright cadet 30217 for months and wondered if its been withdrawn or suffered accident damage.
1908 had a re-furd
&1906 has been refurd was on 907 today 11/5/12
1906 was parked up in bull street (where the old 16 stop used to be) today saying it was on private charter (cc) or private hire (cc) one of the two so was either displaying the wrong destination or worked as the 907 later.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 11, 2012, 06:26:30 PM
1908 had a re-furd
&1906 has been refurd was on 907 today 11/5/12
Quote from: Ash on May 11, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
1906 was parked up in bull street (where the old 16 stop used to be) today saying it was on private charter (cc) or private hire (cc) one of the two so was either displaying the wrong destination or worked as the 907 later.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 11, 2012, 06:26:30 PM
1908 had a re-furd
&1906 has been refurd was on 907 today 11/5/12
1906 was on the 'Private Charter CG' service today. This is actually the Waterlinks shuttle service which on some trips goes down Corporation Street, Some trips goes to the old 16 stop in Bull Street and some trips starts from St Martins Queensway.
If it did a 907 it must have been after it had finished the'CG' contract, look close it is CG, not CC, but it is very difficult to tell at a quick look. It would not have been when Ash saw it, as it would have gone back to Perry Barr garage first.
Waht does this mean Nathan? "1908 had a re-furd"
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2012, 06:41:32 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 11, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
1906 was parked up in bull street (where the old 16 stop used to be) today saying it was on private charter (cc) or private hire (cc) one of the two so was either displaying the wrong destination or worked as the 907 later.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 11, 2012, 06:26:30 PM
1908 had a re-furd
&1906 has been refurd was on 907 today 11/5/12
1906 was on the 'Private Charter CG' service today. This is actually the Waterlinks shuttle service which on some trips goes down Corporation Street, Some trips goes to the old 16 stop in Bull Street and some trips starts from St Martins Queensway.
If it did a 907 it must have been after it had finished the'CG' contract, look close it is CG, not CC, but it is very difficult to tell at a quick look. It would not have been when Ash saw it, as it would have gone back to Perry Barr garage first.
Waht does this mean Nathan? "1908 had a re-furd"
What is Waterlinks Shuttle operated by PB
& The seats have changed, guessing it had a re-furb
Why would you say its had a refurb? It's a new bus!!!
658 was on the 311 last night - noted in Dudley around 20:40. I assume it's unusual :p
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2012, 06:41:32 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 11, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
1906 was parked up in bull street (where the old 16 stop used to be) today saying it was on private charter (cc) or private hire (cc) one of the two so was either displaying the wrong destination or worked as the 907 later.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 11, 2012, 06:26:30 PM
1908 had a re-furd
&1906 has been refurd was on 907 today 11/5/12
1906 was on the 'Private Charter CG' service today. This is actually the Waterlinks shuttle service which on some trips goes down Corporation Street, Some trips goes to the old 16 stop in Bull Street and some trips starts from St Martins Queensway.
If it did a 907 it must have been after it had finished the'CG' contract, look close it is CG, not CC, but it is very difficult to tell at a quick look. It would not have been when Ash saw it, as it would have gone back to Perry Barr garage first.
Waht does this mean Nathan? "1908 had a re-furd"
Yeah i was walking quickly towards snow hill for the metro and i wondered why 1906 was there and just quickly looked at destination blind at the front because i think it was blank on the side and at the back
4721 was on the 952 which i think is rare as it mostly the leather omnilinks
Quote from: 966 on May 11, 2012, 07:49:20 PM
Why would you say its had a refurb? It's a new bus!!!
Because he is a moron.
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 05:31:14 AM
Quote from: 966 on May 11, 2012, 07:49:20 PM
Why would you say its had a refurb? It's a new bus!!!
Because he is a moron.
if you say so 8), i hate to think what you are anyways
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1770 - made a rare daytime apperance yesterday (12th May)
4742 - Made it 952 in the daytime (12th May)
4504 branded 82/87 working 75E today (13th MAy)
7086 working 449 (13th May)
Quote from: NathanJC on May 13, 2012, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 05:31:14 AM
Quote from: 966 on May 11, 2012, 07:49:20 PM
Why would you say its had a refurb? It's a new bus!!!
Because he is a moron.
if you say so 8), i hate to think what you are anyways
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1770 - made a rare daytime apperance yesterday (12th May)
1770 is normally out in daylight as well as at night
4742 - Made it 952 in the daytime (12th May)
No it didn't it was on the 50 where it normally is
4504 branded 82/87 working 75E today (13th MAy)
7086 working 449 (13th May)
Quote from: NathanJC on May 13, 2012, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 05:31:14 AM
Because he is a moron.
if you say so 8), i hate to think what you are anyways
Will the rest of us get an invite to the wedding ?
651 was out on the 77 & 1795/1796/1799 were out on the 59 today :)
Quote from: NathanJC on May 13, 2012, 01:39:27 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 13, 2012, 05:31:14 AM
Quote from: 966 on May 11, 2012, 07:49:20 PM
Why would you say its had a refurb? It's a new bus!!!
Because he is a moron.
if you say so 8), i hate to think what you are anyways
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1770 - made a rare daytime apperance yesterday (12th May)
4742 - Made it 952 in the daytime (12th May)
4504 branded 82/87 working 75E today (13th MAy)
7086 working 449 (13th May)
Just get a room together & get it out of your system!
Some people seem to think they are exempt from the no personal insults rule......
Why really just ignore each or agree to dissagree
1932 (branded for the 37) on the 1 this afternoon.
Back in 2010, there was a Scania Onmilink, 1941 brand new, which turned up on the old S2 at 07:40. Great trip that was!
Quote from: lgr on May 14, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
1932 (branded for the 37) on the 1 this afternoon.
Quite a rare working. It's very common to see Eclipse2's on the 1 in the morning peaks though, as it was with B10Ls.
Seen 1932 myself at around 16:20 in Acocks Green.
Spectra 4006 was on the 126 this afternoon.
Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere, but do Spectras pass Birmingham's emissions "test"?
Nope, to put it simply it's buses with a Y reg plate or newer so Spectra's won't be allowed on the 126 come the Summer as they are R, S and T plates. However I don't think this should cause WN too many problems as like you say by putting your post in the Unusual Working Section Spectra's don't often feature on the 126, WN's only Birmingham route and whenever I see them they are usually working the 126E which avoids Birmingham just completing the Dudley to Wolverhampton route.
No, nothing under 4125 from the double deck fleet
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 14, 2012, 08:49:19 PM
Spectra 4006 was on the 126 this afternoon.
Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere, but do Spectras pass Birmingham's emissions "test"?
I remember someone saying anything past the 41** tridents pass the emissions, so spectras wouldn't because they were introduced 99/2000 :)
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 14, 2012, 08:49:19 PM
Spectra 4006 was on the 126 this afternoon.
Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere, but do Spectras pass Birmingham's emissions "test"?
2 diamond hybrids on the 301 usually dafs or darts and some solos too had a ride on a hybrid seemed noisy for an electric vehicle charged by an engine can someone explain this was a smooth ride. I know the engine did not kick in to recharge as i was at the back and would have been able to have noticed it. Unless i am wrong as this hybrid stuff is new to me.
An unusual working that's certainly unusual, 706 on the 1 from WN. Its unusual to see a Single Decker on the 1 least of all an Excel, imagine that's really going to struggle if its still running come peak time this evening!
BC ominilink on 59 unsure which it was
BC Ominilink on 97 unsure of the fleet
4275 on 82
4292 on 87
Quote from: NathanJC on May 15, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
BC ominilink on 59 unsure which it was
I know 1795 & 1807 were on the 59 today and 1795, 1796 & 1799 were on it yesterday and i've got a feeling they've converted the 59 to SD Operation or it could be a trial, if it has converted to SD i'm not suprised because it's mostly empty whenever I get on it :)
Caught 4001 on the 82 at 12:15.
Was very surprised to see a Spectra coming down the Moseley Road, been a while since I've been on one down the Deans Road. I had the whole top deck to myself for most of the journey 8)
While going through Heath Town I saw 4006 with it's hazards on (probably overheated like all the Spectras do lol) while it was on the 59.
Around 2:10pm 684 was on the 6 and 4608 (branded for the 59 day return) was on the 79.
Btw 1689 still has it's City Hop sticker from it's time at BY.
Quote from: Rob H on May 15, 2012, 04:11:44 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 15, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
BC ominilink on 59 unsure which it was
I know 1795 & 1807 were on the 59 today and 1795, 1796 & 1799 were on it yesterday and i've got a feeling they've converted the 59 to SD Operation or it could be a trial, if it has converted to SD i'm not suprised because it's mostly empty whenever I get on it :)
I think service's 59 & 60 are only used to Small Heath High Street, but 59 should be SD operated
17 is now Ominlink operated aswell ;D
554 was on the 297 today if you could call that rare. There was also an Excel on route 4 today and a spectra on the 255
I know spectras were mainly used over the christmas, but I think it's pretty rare.
Quote from: Ashley on May 15, 2012, 11:18:27 PM
554 was on the 297 today if you could call that rare. There was also an Excel on route 4 today and a spectra on the 255
These aren't really rare workings, presidents and alx400s were used to replace geminis that been used on these routes.
Like when presidents and geminis appear on 74/E & 75/E
Quote from: NathanJC on May 15, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
4275 on 82
4292 on 87
Quote from: 4504 on May 15, 2012, 11:21:29 PM
These aren't really rare workings, presidents and alx400s were used to replace geminis that been used on these routes.
Like when presidents and geminis appear on 74/E & 75/E
Quote from: NathanJC on May 15, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
4275 on 82
4292 on 87
I agree not rare workings but you would think with all the gemini's that seem to be transferring to WB the 82/87 would be solid gemini operation but i think they get shared round with the 80 and 74/75 with no specific allocations from the gemini's from PB and AG as the '06' ones normally stop on the 82/87 but do stray onto other services
Yeah, I agree, it's good seeing a range of doubles on all routes, I suppose soon, all these routes will have to be either gemini and b7 alx400 operated with the euro 2 emissions and presidents going on the 451 and moving to AG.
On another note, I rode 4703 on the 80, the other day.
Quote from: Ash on May 15, 2012, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 15, 2012, 11:21:29 PM
These aren't really rare workings, presidents and alx400s were used to replace geminis that been used on these routes.
Like when presidents and geminis appear on 74/E & 75/E
Quote from: NathanJC on May 15, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
4275 on 82
4292 on 87
I agree not rare workings but you would think with all the gemini's that seem to be transferring to WB the 82/87 would be solid gemini operation but i think they get shared round with the 80 and 74/75 with no specific allocations from the gemini's from PB and AG as the '06' ones normally stop on the 82/87 but do stray onto other services
Arriva Optare Versa 2975 was working the 142 in Halesowen last night
4781 was on the 94 today :)
I think the Spectra was 4016 as I saw that yesterday afternoon
Quote from: Ashley on May 15, 2012, 11:18:27 PM
554 was on the 297 today if you could call that rare. There was also an Excel on route 4 today and a spectra on the 255
1827 on the 8C today, looking strange.
Excel on the 255, if that's rare.
Yes there's a few Excel's turning up on various WN routes lately, whether this is because they have transferred a few too many Mercs out or there's a few Tridents off the road being refurbished, repainted, linking in with the Route One report suggestions so Excel's are being used.
That would look quite odd, I actually haven't seen
any other bus on that route, apart from mercs.
Quote from: Michael on May 16, 2012, 03:15:49 PM
1827 on the 8C today, looking strange.
Ah, I see, there were also 6 other dennis tridents on the 255, including the one I was on, 4541, I actually wasn't expecting to see any.
Do the 255/256 interchange at Wolverhampton? and/or does the 256/257 interchange at Stourbridge?
There was also a merc on the 27
Quote from: wilmotm on May 16, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Yes there's a few Excel's turning up on various WN routes lately, whether this is because they have transferred a few too many Mercs out or there's a few Tridents off the road being refurbished, repainted, linking in with the Route One report suggestions so Excel's are being used.
Quote from: 4504 on May 16, 2012, 10:56:36 PM
That would look quite odd, I actually haven't seen any other bus on that route, apart from mercs.
Quote from: Michael on May 16, 2012, 03:15:49 PM
1827 on the 8C today, looking strange.
First time I saw an Omnilink too. The destination was similar to the 11, but it simply said Inner Circle 8C, and on the second line it said Highgate Five Ways (the massive space in between was there instead of '&'.
I started to wonder what the front LEDs would actually display and how. If I see it, I'll take a pic.
Does this mean the omnilinks at BY are going to be used on the Inner Circle, I wonder :o
Quote from: Michael on May 16, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 16, 2012, 10:56:36 PM
That would look quite odd, I actually haven't seen any other bus on that route, apart from mercs.
Quote from: Michael on May 16, 2012, 03:15:49 PM
1827 on the 8C today, looking strange.
First time I saw an Omnilink too. The destination was similar to the 11, but it simply said Inner Circle 8C, and on the second line it said Highgate Five Ways (the massive space in between was there instead of '&'.
Quote from: 4504 on May 16, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
Ah, I see, there were also 6 other dennis tridents on the 255, including the one I was on, 4541, I actually wasn't expecting to see any.
Do the 255/256 interchange at Wolverhampton? and/or does the 256/257 interchange at Stourbridge?
There was also a merc on the 27
The 255 doesn't interwork with the 256 anymore, when it reaches Merry Hill I believe it becomes a 255E and then heads back to Wall Heath and terminates at Blaze Park, it then returns to Merry Hill as a 255E then becomes a full 255 and returns all the way back to Wolvo and repeats the pattern.
The 256 and the 257 do interwork at Stourbridge, a bus will start at Wolvo as a 256, head to Stourbridge, become a 257 to Dudley, then a 257 to Stourbridge and then a 256 back to Wolvo again.
There is the pic of the display
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithsmithysflickr/6725836633/in/photostream
Quote from: Ash on May 16, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
There is the pic of the display
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keithsmithysflickr/6725836633/in/photostream
Yeah, exactly that but the other way as it's the 8C, so Highgate first.
Quote from: winston on May 16, 2012, 01:24:38 AM
Arriva Optare Versa 2975 was working the 142 in Halesowen last night
Was it lost lol
Another Excel on the 1 today, didn't catch the Fleet number, WN must certainly have a few Tridents off the road then I would have thought, as a couple of Spectra's made their way to Dudley as well.
Quote from: wilmotm on May 16, 2012, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 16, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
Ah, I see, there were also 6 other dennis tridents on the 255, including the one I was on, 4541, I actually wasn't expecting to see any.
Do the 255/256 interchange at Wolverhampton? and/or does the 256/257 interchange at Stourbridge?
There was also a merc on the 27
The 255 doesn't interwork with the 256 anymore, when it reaches Merry Hill I believe it becomes a 255E and then heads back to Wall Heath and terminates at Blaze Park, it then returns to Merry Hill as a 255E then becomes a full 255 and returns all the way back to Wolvo and repeats the pattern.
The 256 and the 257 do interwork at Stourbridge, a bus will start at Wolvo as a 256, head to Stourbridge, become a 257 to Dudley, then a 257 to Stourbridge and then a 256 back to Wolvo again.
The 255 has been completely Trident operated since the start of this year when 4135, 4305-9, 4313 and 4327 transferred into WN. Spectras, Mercs and Excels are normally only used in an emergency.
Saw 4529 on the 89 today, nearly had a heart attack.
I would think
Quote from: 4504 on May 17, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Saw 4529 on the 89 today, nearly had a heart attack.
it will be a regular sight soon when the emmission ruling comes into place
Either that or WB get 4 BC omnilinks
Quote from: Ash on May 17, 2012, 09:12:33 PM
I would thinkQuote from: 4504 on May 17, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Saw 4529 on the 89 today, nearly had a heart attack.
it will be a regular sight soon when the emmission ruling comes into place
Quote from: Roy on May 17, 2012, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: wilmotm on May 16, 2012, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: 4504 on May 16, 2012, 10:59:06 PM
Ah, I see, there were also 6 other dennis tridents on the 255, including the one I was on, 4541, I actually wasn't expecting to see any.
Do the 255/256 interchange at Wolverhampton? and/or does the 256/257 interchange at Stourbridge?
There was also a merc on the 27
The 255 doesn't interwork with the 256 anymore, when it reaches Merry Hill I believe it becomes a 255E and then heads back to Wall Heath and terminates at Blaze Park, it then returns to Merry Hill as a 255E then becomes a full 255 and returns all the way back to Wolvo and repeats the pattern.
The 256 and the 257 do interwork at Stourbridge, a bus will start at Wolvo as a 256, head to Stourbridge, become a 257 to Dudley, then a 257 to Stourbridge and then a 256 back to Wolvo again.
The 255 has been completely Trident operated since the start of this year when 4135, 4305-9, 4313 and 4327 transferred into WN. Spectras, Mercs and Excels are normally only used in an emergency.
WN Merc 1677 was on the 255E this afternoon
1843 - working 905 today
1468 - Working 65 today
These are rare workings to me probally not to others
4738 - working 35 today
Quote from: NathanJC on May 18, 2012, 07:08:19 PM
4738 - working 35 today
Along with a very rare working, a Scania Omnilink. There was one on the 5 also.
Saw 555 b6 on 120 this afternoon
In Dudley bus station today and in the number 1 queue there were quite a lot of conversations that could be overheard of people complaining of the number 1 seeing too many "tiny buses" i.e. Excel's and this presumably meant that for example a couple of number 1's left Wolvo this evening with instructions to either not pick up passengers till Sedgley or not pick up passengers after Sedgley this meant that there were a couple of Trident's and a Spectra entering Dudley displaying Not In Service with passengers on board having travelled from Wolvo. Strange indeed!
They are rare-workings :)
Quote from: NathanJC on May 18, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
1843 - working 905 today
1468 - Working 65 today
These are rare workings to me probally not to others
I saw 555 and 1516 on the 120, going a bit backwards isn't it ;)
I assume this is a rare working. 4091 on the 448B this afternoon at about 3:30 in Harborne.
4779 - working 934/934A - reason i call this rare now becuase its Enviro & Gemini operated
1843 - Working 952 today - Noramlly leather seated ominilinks
4697 - working 16 today looked nice to see this finally working the 16 instead of the Sutton Lines 8)
yeah that's quite rare :)
Quote from: Peter123 on May 19, 2012, 06:29:17 PM
I assume this is a rare working. 4091 on the 448B this afternoon at about 3:30 in Harborne.
I don't think 1843 is a rare working, PB only have 3 leather seated omnilinks.
Quote from: NathanJC on May 19, 2012, 08:05:16 PM
4779 - working 934/934A - reason i call this rare now becuase its Enviro & Gemini operated
1843 - Working 952 today - Noramlly leather seated ominilinks
4697 - working 16 today looked nice to see this finally working the 16 instead of the Sutton Lines 8)
What is the PVR for the 952 as i know the leather omnilinks were not intended for the service
i think the 952 PVR is five, theres often a gemini on it also the normal omnilinks do appear from time to time.
Thanks Lukee for the information
On other note, there were 2 leather omnilinks on the rail replacement service from Wolverhampton to Birmingham (local stops)
Quote from: Ash on May 20, 2012, 01:28:48 AM
What is the PVR for the 952 as i know the leather omnilinks were not intended for the service
Quote from: Ash on May 20, 2012, 01:28:48 AM
What is the PVR for the 952 as i know the leather omnilinks were not intended for the service
The PVR is 4.
Quote from: Michael on May 20, 2012, 05:21:45 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 20, 2012, 01:28:48 AM
What is the PVR for the 952 as i know the leather omnilinks were not intended for the service
The PVR is 4.
The PVR is higher than 4.
4 is the off-peak vehicle requirement which is why a decker normally appears on there in the peak
1792 was out on the 22 today :)
Isnt PVR for 952 '1' on sundays
4133 4138 on X51 tday
1792 later spoted on the 24, prehaps not that rear but it just looked strange having a red and white Omnilink on the 24. ALso 1795 heading into town on the 61 around 5 o'clock from Edgbaston Park Road, surly signle deckers should not be used on peaks for the 61/3
Every little helps lol
LOL, surpose so. Its just that some double deckers were going past and they were full with people stading on the stairs, so it just seems a bit crazy to put single deckers on
I don't think the Bristol Road routes get anywhere near as busy as they used to to be honest as I use the route regularly-have now for 6 years and particularly in a morning there are definitely less people than there used to be.
There was a B6LE on the 127/8
1797 was on the 14 this afternoon. Haven't seen a Scania on there for many months.
I haven't seen an omnilink on it since it was at Lea Hall
Nowadays it gets Dennis Tridents as well as some Transbus Tridents and
rarely a plaxton president
Quote from: Gareth on May 22, 2012, 01:06:18 AM
1797 was on the 14 this afternoon. Haven't seen a Scania on there for many months.
a b6le on the 127/8 is rare these days as there arent many left at WB now as they normally only see the 428/9 and 405/6 services
Quote from: NathanJC on May 21, 2012, 04:43:46 PM
Isnt PVR for 952 '1' on sundays
Yes, pretty sure it is. Usually on a double decker as well, whenever I see it.
Quote from: 4504 on May 22, 2012, 01:27:32 AM
I haven't seen an omnilink on it since it was at Lea Hall
Nowadays it gets Dennis Tridents as well as some Transbus Tridents and rarely a plaxton president
Quote from: Gareth on May 22, 2012, 01:06:18 AM
1797 was on the 14 this afternoon. Haven't seen a Scania on there for many months.
I find Plaxtons Quite Common on there at Peak times, same for ominilinks on the 97/97A peak journeys
Quote from: John-s-91 on May 22, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 21, 2012, 04:43:46 PM
Isnt PVR for 952 '1' on sundays
Yes, pretty sure it is. Usually on a double decker as well, whenever I see it.
Thought So 8)
No they're not, plaxtons are very rare on this route at any time
Quote from: NathanJC on May 22, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: 4504 on May 22, 2012, 01:27:32 AM
I haven't seen an omnilink on it since it was at Lea Hall
Nowadays it gets Dennis Tridents as well as some Transbus Tridents and rarely a plaxton president
Quote from: Gareth on May 22, 2012, 01:06:18 AM
1797 was on the 14 this afternoon. Haven't seen a Scania on there for many months.
I find Plaxtons Quite Common on there at Peak times, same for ominilinks on the 97/97A peak journeys Quote from: John-s-91 on May 22, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 21, 2012, 04:43:46 PM
Isnt PVR for 952 '1' on sundays
Yes, pretty sure it is. Usually on a double decker as well, whenever I see it.
Thought So 8)
Quote from: 4504 on May 22, 2012, 10:37:31 AM
No they're not, plaxtons are very rare on this route at any time
Quote from: NathanJC on May 22, 2012, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: 4504 on May 22, 2012, 01:27:32 AM
I haven't seen an omnilink on it since it was at Lea Hall
Nowadays it gets Dennis Tridents as well as some Transbus Tridents and rarely a plaxton president
Quote from: Gareth on May 22, 2012, 01:06:18 AM
1797 was on the 14 this afternoon. Haven't seen a Scania on there for many months.
I find Plaxtons Quite Common on there at Peak times, same for ominilinks on the 97/97A peak journeys Quote from: John-s-91 on May 22, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 21, 2012, 04:43:46 PM
Isnt PVR for 952 '1' on sundays
Yes, pretty sure it is. Usually on a double decker as well, whenever I see it.
Thought So 8)
I wouldn't say they were very rare but neither are the Presidents common on the 14. It is however not unusual to see one every now and again. (1 a day or 1 every 2-3 days maybe)
1806 on X64 this afternoon-tho this isnt that rare at the moment tho it will be soon.
Five '06 LED geminis were working the 127/8 today
There was a ALX 400 on the 448A yesterday
On the 002 today was Optare Versa Hyrbid 30134 and yesterday was 30218. Funny how there are 6 branded buses for the 002 and there's usually one missing every day.
Quote from: Peter123 on May 22, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
1806 on X64 this afternoon-tho this isnt that rare at the moment tho it will be soon.
Two days in a row I've waited for the X64 and I've ended up on 1794 Scania Omnilink which was on yesterday and today.
3611 on the 450
Diamond 30214 been on the 404E two days in a row which is rare as its normally only on the 007, yeah i saw 595 on the 451 to i bet the dart on the 449 was rammed full nice on a hot day :(
1832 seen on the 8C this afternoon.
1661 was on the 1 in Wolves around 10:15am yesterday morning.
Also saw 1891 on the 89 shortly afterwards.
(May 22nd)
B10L's on the 2 and 94
A Solo up at Maypole presumbly on contract service
A Omnilink on the 27
In Wolves
4311 was on the 33
1682 was on the 25
1672 was on the 6
an omnilink on the 27 is not that rear, there just quite difficult to find
4494 - broke down on Tyburn Road working 67
4502 - made a rare apperance on 33 (B'Ham - pheasey) normally Enviro operated
0309 - was parked up on the Hawthorn Today, then arrived in twon at 66 Stop so dont know if it was Training/Working
4476 - Front LED shows SORRY NOT IN SERVICE were as the Side & Rear showed 934A :-\ just found that cool
2130 working 58 Today
So not really any rare workings but wanted to share 8)
Saw a Black Diamond Solo on the 59 in Wolves yesterday.
I miss the smart-looking Red Diamond B7RLEs they had on there initially, though they were never full.
Quote from: Ashley on May 23, 2012, 09:58:24 AM
In Wolves
4311 was on the 33
Just like the good old days when Tridents were common on 32/33 :)
3604 out on the 405/6 and i didnt relise a wb alx400 operated the school 702 service (around the new invention) as 4274 was on there today
4729 on the 16
4461 on the 14
Quote from: Ash on May 23, 2012, 04:29:26 PM
3604 out on the 405/6 and i didnt relise a wb alx400 operated the school 702 service (around the new invention) as 4274 was on there today
Yeah i remember when Diamond used Volvos on the 59, seeing the competition at first comfused me and even 2 years later i dont see the point when they dont get many people on them ever
The 32/33 allocation used to be a mix of Excels, Tridents and Spectras (a few Metrobuses before that) then last year it went to the horrid mini Excels and now its just everything like today, 1682, 684 and a spectra
4697 - Rare working 934/934A
4856 - Rare Working 907
4126 - Made an apperance on X51
4107 - Rare working 97/97A
2140 - Working 58/59/60/97/97A - Rear L.E.D was broken so couldnt tell what service
1945 - rare working the 5 (Solihull - B'Ham)
2128 - Rare working 59
4257 - Working 67
20539 - Working Service 50
2111 was out on the 31 this morning :) Not sure whether you count this as an unusual working
Quote from: Rob H on May 24, 2012, 03:46:12 PM
2111 was out on the 31 this morning :) Not sure whether you count this as an unusual working
I would as 31 is normally Plaxton Operated
I saw 1814 on the 22/23 today.
Quote from: Mike360 on May 24, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
I saw 1814 on the 22/23 today.
If Scanias are appering commonly on the 22/23 then were are the Hybrids being placed, as the Hybrids were intended for that route
Well there obviously not being placed on the 22/23 regularly as the post has been put in the Unusual Workings Topic! Perhaps a Hybrid was out of action for the day or something, it doesn't automatically mean there being placed elsewhere.
Quote from: Rob H on May 24, 2012, 03:46:12 PM
2111 was out on the 31 this morning :) Not sure whether you count this as an unusual working
Probably unusual for now, but maybe not in a few weeks, you'd often get a B10L doing a full day-shift on the 31/31A, but now as the B10Ls have all now been replaced by B7RLEs, you'll see them more often from time to time.
At least it made a change from them being on the 1 or 37. ;)
4581 on the 79 (126 branded)
A few today
1808 on the 8A
4615 Pershore Road Branded on the 14
4104 also on the 14
1403 and 1462 both on the 16
1470 on the 904/914's
1479 on 302
4871 on 997
4856 on 907
2122, 2132 & 2143 all on the 58. Solihull is looking very modern now, except for a B10L on the 6. There was a Scania on the 3 weirdly, and a selection of Tridents on the 6.
AG had a couple of B7RLEs on the 37 with a 37 branded vehicle on the 71 and one on the 73.
As I'm typing this, a Gemini is driving past my house with the coolers blaring.
1470 was on the 904
1448 was on the 905
are these rare workings as they were in service all day
Quote from: Ash on May 24, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
1470 was on the 904
1448 was on the 905
are these rare workings as they were in service all day
Yes, any single decker on the Sutton 90* routes are rare.
2132 on the 59
4126 on the X51
I think B7RLEs are going to become regular on the 59
Quote from: lgr on May 24, 2012, 10:06:08 PM
2132 on the 59
4126 on the X51
1800 was out on the 45/47 today :) it was on the 47 when I seen it ;)
Pershore Road Branded 4612 was out on the 24 aswell :)
Quote from: John-s-91 on May 24, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
A few today
1808 on the 8A
4615 Pershore Road Branded on the 14
4104 also on the 14
1403 and 1462 both on the 16
1470 on the 904/914's
1479 on 302
4871 on 997
4856 on 907
I also forgot there was 4285, and 4255 or 4257, as well as a Gemini on the 934's yesterday as well.
4097 on the 89
More to come hopefully :)
681 on the 128
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0718/681.html
1589 on the 451 ( a photo will appear on main site soon)
4504 also on the 451 today unusual to see the Dudley Road vehicles stray onto other services
Weird seeing a B6 on the 128 considering it's been converted to double deck
Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2012, 08:25:52 PM
681 on the 128
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0718/681.html
1589 on the 451 ( a photo will appear on main site soon)
4138 was on the 51 today and 561 was on the 29
Yesterday -
4718 on the 67
4260 on the 952
1430 on the 915
1847 was on the 638 yesterday but saw it back on the 952 today
37 branded omnilink on the S1 yesterday, spotted in Solihull
Quote from: Ash on May 26, 2012, 10:52:38 PM
1847 was on the 638 yesterday but saw it back on the 952 today
Just literally seen a Black Diamond Hybrid Versa going up the Himley Road at about half 12 at night with Engineers in Training on the Display, seemed a little strange, anyone spread any light?
Could be dropping off drivers who have just worked the last of the evening buses, there NXWM WB darts that drive past me at night around 1ish dropping off drivers
May be it was just running private back to garage, driver just put that up on the destination by mistake
4780 - working 952
4697 - working the 7
7020 - working 72
Diamond nifty 50 working 56A (B'Ham - Brownhills Via Kingstanding)
Quote7020 - working 72
Today? Because I saw 7020 leaving Solihull on a 37 journey, while I was on the 957 entering Solihull town centre this evening.
Quote from: Stu on May 27, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
Quote7020 - working 72
Today? Because I saw 7020 leaving Solihull on a 37 journey, while I was on the 957 entering Solihull town centre this evening.
Yeh today, spotted it coming off Bull Street while waiting for the 934 on Dale End
Quote from: NathanJC on May 27, 2012, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 27, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
Quote7020 - working 72
Today? Because I saw 7020 leaving Solihull on a 37 journey, while I was on the 957 entering Solihull town centre this evening.
Yeh today, spotted it coming off Bull Street while waiting for the 934 on Dale End
Are you sure it wasn't 7019 Nathan?
Quote from: Michael on May 27, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 27, 2012, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 27, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
Quote7020 - working 72
Today? Because I saw 7020 leaving Solihull on a 37 journey, while I was on the 957 entering Solihull town centre this evening.
Yeh today, spotted it coming off Bull Street while waiting for the 934 on Dale End
Are you sure it wasn't 7019 Nathan?
Sure it was 7020
What time did you see it then?
I suppose if it was the morning, then it could have been possible that they get switched round during the day on Sunday, I have seen various buses in Acocks Green on Sunday afternoons running out of service towards Solihull.
I definitely did see 7020 leaving Solihull on the 37 about 5:40pm, because I was cursing to myself that I'd have to wait 20 minutes for the next one! (As it happened, 10 mins later a 37E showed up 8))
B7RLE 2014 on the 255 today
The double decker on the 952 today was an omnicity
4850 was on the 904
I'm guessing that is a regular occurrence to see leather enviros on the 51 on Sundays, saw another one today
I would've thought all WN B7RLEs would be used on the more WN routes on Sundays, because of less oPVRs (off peak vehicle requirements)
Quote from: winston on May 27, 2012, 08:32:17 PM
B7RLE 2014 on the 255 today
4136 back on the 51 today.
4124 was out on the 900E this morning 8)
1430 - working 907 & has a new L.E.D FITTED
1617 - Working 17 again today alongside 1584
1813 - working Early morning 97/97A turning into a common occurance now
2122. 2123 & 2104 all working 59 today
4064 - working 37
4031 - working 900
Bc ominilink working 58 and another BC ominilink working 59 couldnt get the fleet number due to the Adverts on the rear of the bus
4647 (AG) Branded 11A/C - going into BC garage this morning :-\
Quote from: thetruth on May 28, 2012, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 28, 2012, 02:52:18 PM
1430 - working 907 & has a new L.E.D FITTED
Not new, was fitted in 2007 when the 377 got showcased
Oh, thought it was a new LED havent saw a PB B1OL like that before
Quote from: NathanJC on May 28, 2012, 06:41:29 PM
Oh, thought it was a new LED havent saw a PB B1OL like that before
It's only just transferred from Acocks Green last week.
Quote from: John-s-91 on May 28, 2012, 06:48:58 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 28, 2012, 06:41:29 PM
Oh, thought it was a new LED havent saw a PB B1OL like that before
It's only just transferred from Acocks Green last week.
Seems, WB are getting more buses & AG are getting rid :-\
Quote4064 - working 37
You'll quite often see Presidents on the 37, especially at peak times, so not that rare an occurrence.
QuoteSeems, WB are getting more buses & AG are getting rid
Huh? :o AG and WB's buses are being swapped, with Geminis to WB, and Presidents to AG. And AG have just received a delivery of 23 brand new buses, which is why the B10Ls have gone. (and again, its B
10L (B-ten-L), not B1OL ;))
Quote from: Stu on May 28, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote4064 - working 37
You'll quite often see Presidents on the 37, especially at peak times, so not that rare an occurrence.
QuoteSeems, WB are getting more buses & AG are getting rid
Huh? :o AG and WB's buses are being swapped, with Geminis to WB, and Presidents to AG. And AG have just received a delivery of 23 brand new buses, which is why the B10Ls have gone. (and again, its B10L (B-ten-L), not B1OL ;))
Looked wierd seeing a Plaxton in the Daytime
& ohh makes sense
Quote from: NathanJC on May 28, 2012, 07:00:30 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 28, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote4064 - working 37
You'll quite often see Presidents on the 37, especially at peak times, so not that rare an occurrence.
QuoteSeems, WB are getting more buses & AG are getting rid
Huh? :o AG and WB's buses are being swapped, with Geminis to WB, and Presidents to AG. And AG have just received a delivery of 23 brand new buses, which is why the B10Ls have gone. (and again, its B10L (B-ten-L), not B1OL ;))
Looked wierd seeing a Plaxton in the Daytime
& ohh makes sense
It's weird seeing you say to others that Plaxton's operate on the 37 during peaks (in other messages), and here your acting as if you didn't know.
4001 on the 126 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4001.html
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
4001 on the 126 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4001.html
4002 was on it Thursday!
B6LE 600 was on the 246 tonight
Watch out 126 users, spectras are coming your way ;)
Quote from: Michael on May 28, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 28, 2012, 07:00:30 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 28, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote4064 - working 37
You'll quite often see Presidents on the 37, especially at peak times, so not that rare an occurrence.
QuoteSeems, WB are getting more buses & AG are getting rid
Huh? :o AG and WB's buses are being swapped, with Geminis to WB, and Presidents to AG. And AG have just received a delivery of 23 brand new buses, which is why the B10Ls have gone. (and again, its B10L (B-ten-L), not B1OL ;))
Looked wierd seeing a Plaxton in the Daytime
& ohh makes sense
It's weird seeing you say to others that Plaxton's operate on the 37 during peaks (in other messages), and here your acting as if you didn't know.
I Know they operate PEAKS just didnt think they operated in daytime ::)
Wolverhampton 2011 was on the 59
4099 on the 405
3 Trident's (4127, 4136 and another) on X51
4321 on 25A
Quote from: NathanJC on May 29, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
I Know they operate PEAKS just didnt think they operated in daytime ::)
It's not uncommon for Presidents to do 'all-day' shifts on the 37 either.
1941 on the 5
1816, 1829 on the 90
Quote from: 4504 on May 29, 2012, 08:06:41 PM
1941 on the 5
1816, 1829 on the 90
There were at least two Scanias on the 5 today. As usual, a couple of Eclipses on the 37, and I saw no Eclipses on the 1 this morning, however it was mainly Gemini operated, and has been for the past few days, with the three Presidents branded, and the odd Red/White President.
I think certain 5 journeys can get away with being Scania operated as there are gaps half way in the route where it is pretty much dead.
Off topic, I think the 5/31 would be dreadful to drive as they are incredibly wrong. Without a doubt, the 1 must be one of the best AG routes to drive, if not the best.
(28th May) 1419 was on the 51
651 on the 41
568 and another B6 on the 29
4133 on the 302
1430 on the 907
1617 back at WB seen on the 405 this evening, 1847 was seen on the 67, 4259 on the 115 and 4737 on the 65
AG Scania working 5
Crusader dart on the 444
Today's unusual workings on Diamond buses are 30134 on the 417 but I do see a Hybrid get on there quite often now so not that rare and 30132 on the 202 which is the first time I've seen and been on one on that route.
These are unusual workings to ME:
4375, 4381 & 4387 - working the 6 (Solihull - Birmingham)
4068 - Working S1
4672 - Parked up at Digbeth Coach Stn (AG Branded 11A)
4367 - Working 16 - rare appearance as there normally Tridents/Gemini's
4247 - re-painted, which was also working 94
1404 - Working 65
4726 - working 65
5505 - Now a talking bus which was working 22
4105 - working 900/900E
4119 - Working 900/900E
1817, 1747, 1806 - Working 97/97A
4120 - Working 14
241 - Driver training in Coventry
1842 - Working the 900E spotted while at Birmingham Airport
Coventry Workings;
4397 - working 21
4319 - working 42 normally B6LE operated
Quote from: NathanJC on May 31, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
These are unusual workings to ME:
4375, 4381 & 4387 - working the 6 (Solihull - Birmingham)
4068 - Working S1
4672 - Parked up at Digbeth Coach Stn (AG Branded 11A)
4367 - Working 16 - rare appearance as there normally Tridents/Gemini's
4247 - re-painted, which was also working 94
1404 - Working 65
4726 - working 65
5505 - Now a talking bus which was working 22
4105 - working 900/900E
4119 - Working 900/900E
1817, 1747, 1806 - Working 97/97A
4120 - Working 14
241 - Driver training in Coventry
1842 - Working the 900E spotted while at Birmingham Airport
Coventry Workings;
4397 - working 21
4319 - working 42 normally B6LE operated
Nathan,
Are you sure on some of those fleetnumbers?
4367 on the 16, that's a YW Trident
1747 on the 97/97A, there is no such fleetnumber
1842 on the 900E, that's a PB Omnilink, can't imagine BC would need to loan any single deckers, as they seem to have excess at the mo with all the various sightings
Tridents are as common on the 6, as Presidents on the 37.
The two single deck routes seem to be converting back slowly! Presumably the Scanias at YW are covering B10Ls that are starting to break down regularly, as I've seen engineers three times in Moseley village driving towards YW in a B10L. Saw 1407 yesterday driven by an engineer. The wheels looked brand new.
Quote from: Mike360 on May 31, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
Today's unusual workings on Diamond buses are 30134 on the 417 but I do see a Hybrid get on there quite often now so not that rare and 30132 on the 202 which is the first time I've seen and been on one on that route.
There was not one wright cadet on the 404E today which is unusual and instead had 3/4 old red and white darts along with a number of shorter black diamond darts along with a longer black diamond dart, the cadets seem to be used on the 401/2 and 410 from the 404E and 301
4854 on the 16
I don't think this thread will ever die 8)
4504 some of the new (unbranded) PB enviros are being drawn onto the 907 svcs recently-I saw 4854 on it last Wed, and 4852 did an 8hr stint on thursday-a pleasant change from the usual rubbish.
B6 510 on the 120 today
Walsall had 4767 on the 89 today.
Quote from: danny on June 01, 2012, 05:52:15 PM
B6 510 on the 120 today
Bet that was cramped! :o
Oh just a little lol
4150 on the 97
4107 on the 97
1797 on the 47
1912 on the 3
1941 on the 5
(1st June)
643 - Heading into PB garage
4853 - working 934/934A
2nd June
4781 - working 16 - havent seen an Ominicity working 16 for sometime
4766 - working X51
Unusual Diamond Bus company working YJ51 EKE 30205 on the 50 yesterday-had a nice ride on it and 30801 wasnt on the 50 again yesterday-instead I got 31479 again rattly but in overall good nic! Love these buses.....
I also caught 31479 yesterday which is a nice bus and 3 Diamond 50's buses had all caught up together in Kings Heath towards Druids Heath yesterday 30205, 31479 and 30802.
34274 on the 89, don't know if that's rare or not
4640 on the 31
Saw a 404-branded Omnilink heading down Park Lane in Wolves on Friday
Quote from: Mike360 on June 03, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I also caught 31479 yesterday which is a nice bus and 3 Diamond 50's buses had all caught up together in Kings Heath towards Druids Heath yesterday 30205, 31479 and 30802.
I saw those three together in Moseley. Funnily enough they were not very full!
Probably not that unusual to most of us locals, but there are two Outer Circle-branded Geminis (sorry, didn't catch the fleet numbers!) 'off-route' today, one working the 31E, and another working the 37 (unusual in itself as you rarely see doubles, let alone a Gemini, working this route on a Sunday).
Quote from: Mike360 on June 03, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I also caught 31479 yesterday which is a nice bus and 3 Diamond 50's buses had all caught up together in Kings Heath towards Druids Heath yesterday 30205, 31479 and 30802.
Yes, they were I remember I was on 31479 cos Id planned it so I got X50 in from the Maypole then saw a nifty branded bus, then 31479 and then 30205 and then I got 31479 out to the maypole again and 30205 back!! Yeah it was great tho it was interesting to see that people went for the nifty 50 over the other 2 diamonds-maybe diamond should recognise this and try to ensure that wherever possible, all the branded buses are used on a particular route!! The nifty 50 was actually really busy
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Mike360 on June 03, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I also caught 31479 yesterday which is a nice bus and 3 Diamond 50's buses had all caught up together in Kings Heath towards Druids Heath yesterday 30205, 31479 and 30802.
Yes, they were I remember I was on 31479 cos Id planned it so I got X50 in from the Maypole then saw a nifty branded bus, then 31479 and then 30205 and then I got 31479 out to the maypole again and 30205 back!! Yeah it was great tho it was interesting to see that people went for the nifty 50 over the other 2 diamonds-maybe diamond should recognise this and try to ensure that wherever possible, all the branded buses are used on a particular route!! The nifty 50 was actually really busy
No there wasn't. The normal Diamond buses were dead, and there was around 8 people on the yellow one. Unless it was a different time, which is very unlikely if they bunched up on that journey.
The nifty fifity one was busy cos it picked up in town ahead of the NXWM enviros-there were about 4 in a row-and there must have been 15-20 people getting on and Id seen that same bus earlier entering King's Heath high street with a standing load-tho the crusader/cadet werent at all busy.....
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2012, 03:22:52 PM
The nifty fifity one was busy cos it picked up in town ahead of the NXWM enviros-there were about 4 in a row-and there must have been 15-20 people getting on and Id seen that same bus earlier entering King's Heath high street with a standing load-tho the crusader/cadet werent at all busy.....
I saw these buses at around 11am in the morning at Moseley Village heading towards Birmingham. You must have seen them at a different time or when they were heading out of Birmingham because they were most definitely quiet.
Yep I was on them at between about 2 and 3 in that case they were bunched for ages..........
When I saw these buses it was about 2.00pm, I saw the nifty 50 leave town pretty full which was very busy, on 31479 there was about 6-8 people and the cadet was empty so that's strange that they've been running around together for a while as it's a bit pointless and are there 5 buses that operate on the 50 in the day? I wonder what happened to the other nifty 50 buses, were they being used on other routes?
Quote from: Stu on June 03, 2012, 03:13:20 PM
Probably not that unusual to most of us locals, but there are two Outer Circle-branded Geminis (sorry, didn't catch the fleet numbers!) 'off-route' today, one working the 31E, and another working the 37 (unusual in itself as you rarely see doubles, let alone a Gemini, working this route on a Sunday).
More unusual is 2107, also working the 31E today! ;D
Quote from: Mike360 on June 03, 2012, 03:40:52 PM
When I saw these buses it was about 2.00pm, I saw the nifty 50 leave town pretty full which was very busy, on 31479 there was about 6-8 people and the cadet was empty so that's strange that they've been running around together for a while as it's a bit pointless and are there 5 buses that operate on the 50 in the day? I wonder what happened to the other nifty 50 buses, were they being used on other routes?
Yep I must have been in town at the same time and I waited for the crusader to come up to the stop on Moor Street Queensway before getting on. I think that there was the crusader the cadet that nifty fifty plus another two. The only one that I didnt see was 30801 which doesnt seem to be on the route very much anymore, tho I noticed also yesterday that 30806 stays on the 002 for which it is branded.
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2012, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Mike360 on June 03, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I also caught 31479 yesterday which is a nice bus and 3 Diamond 50's buses had all caught up together in Kings Heath towards Druids Heath yesterday 30205, 31479 and 30802.
Yes, they were I remember I was on 31479 cos Id planned it so I got X50 in from the Maypole then saw a nifty branded bus, then 31479 and then 30205 and then I got 31479 out to the maypole again and 30205 back!! Yeah it was great tho it was interesting to see that people went for the nifty 50 over the other 2 diamonds-maybe diamond should recognise this and try to ensure that wherever possible, all the branded buses are used on a particular route!! The nifty 50 was actually really busy
This is the big issue i find with diamond as i have saw a red diamond, black diamond and plain white vehicle all on one route often happens on the 410 and for people that are not enthusiasts or dont know the buses in the area would be confused especially if they have a return ticket or diamond day ticket. If the red diamond vehicles are going to be kept at least they should be repainted into the black diamond livery or sold on but they have been at tividale for a couple of years now so unlikely.
I agree it is very confusing and I think they should just adopt the Black Diamond livery for everything Blue Diamond included.
Or just 'Diamond' that would be easier to understand
Dont know if these workings are unusual or what. YJ12 GUG on 50 today, along with 30827-I think-also on the 50.
Quote from: winston on May 31, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 31, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
These are unusual workings to ME:
4375, 4381 & 4387 - working the 6 (Solihull - Birmingham)
4068 - Working S1
4672 - Parked up at Digbeth Coach Stn (AG Branded 11A)
4367 - Working 16 - rare appearance as there normally Tridents/Gemini's
4247 - re-painted, which was also working 94
1404 - Working 65
4726 - working 65
5505 - Now a talking bus which was working 22
4105 - working 900/900E
4119 - Working 900/900E
1817, 1747, 1806 - Working 97/97A
4120 - Working 14
241 - Driver training in Coventry
1842 - Working the 900E spotted while at Birmingham Airport
Coventry Workings;
4397 - working 21
4319 - working 42 normally B6LE operated
Nathan,
Are you sure on some of those fleetnumbers?
4367 on the 16, that's a YW Trident
1747 on the 97/97A, there is no such fleetnumber
1842 on the 900E, that's a PB Omnilink, can't imagine BC would need to loan any single deckers, as they seem to have excess at the mo with all the various sightings
1842 was at Birmingham Intl Airport Displaying 900E
Quote from: NathanJC on June 05, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: winston on May 31, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 31, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
These are unusual workings to ME:
4375, 4381 & 4387 - working the 6 (Solihull - Birmingham)
4068 - Working S1
4672 - Parked up at Digbeth Coach Stn (AG Branded 11A)
4367 - Working 16 - rare appearance as there normally Tridents/Gemini's
4247 - re-painted, which was also working 94
1404 - Working 65
4726 - working 65
5505 - Now a talking bus which was working 22
4105 - working 900/900E
4119 - Working 900/900E
1817, 1747, 1806 - Working 97/97A
4120 - Working 14
241 - Driver training in Coventry
1842 - Working the 900E spotted while at Birmingham Airport
Coventry Workings;
4397 - working 21
4319 - working 42 normally B6LE operated
Nathan,
Are you sure on some of those fleetnumbers?
4367 on the 16, that's a YW Trident
1747 on the 97/97A, there is no such fleetnumber
1842 on the 900E, that's a PB Omnilink, can't imagine BC would need to loan any single deckers, as they seem to have excess at the mo with all the various sightings
1842 was at Birmingham Intl Airport Displaying 900E
1842 hasn't got 900E programmed in for it to display
4737 was out on the 952 today :)
4726 operating the 952, on Monday
37 branded omnilink on the 72E
PB operate Solo working 33 8), spotted coming down Kingstanding Road while I was 934
There was an old red and white Diamond bus on the 417 today but forgotten the exact number.
1695 was on the 428
569 on the 428 must have transferred in from Walsall as it had full destination blinds
3611 was also on the 428/9
4526 was on the 406
4321 and 4586 both on the 79
Also there were 5/6 mercs parked in the outside park up over the road from the garage which some looked to be 1538 and some Dudley Road branded mercs with i think was 1526 along with 1532/87 which has been there for around 2 weeks
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
1695 was on the 428
569 on the 428 must have transferred in from Walsall as it had full destination blinds
3611 was also on the 428/9
4526 was on the 406
4321 and 4586 both on the 79
Also there were 5/6 mercs parked in the outside park up over the road from the garage which some looked to be 1538 and some Dudley Road branded mercs with i think was 1526 along with 1532/87 which has been there for around 2 weeks
I got on 1526 on Friday
The Dudley Road merc was in the old TWM livery so could have been 1528/9 i couldnt see correctly as i was on the 402 at the time but im 99% sure 1538 was parked up there it looks like the old 404 mercs are being targeted for withdrawal shame as 1539 is one of the best mercs they have especially in its first livery which was in a perfect state when debranded from the 404
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
The Dudley Road merc was in the old TWM livery so could have been 1528/9 i couldnt see correctly as i was on the 402 at the time but im 99% sure 1538 was parked up there it looks like the old 404 mercs are being targeted for withdrawal shame as 1539 is one of the best mercs they have especially in its first livery which was in a perfect state when debranded from the 404
1529 has a side destination blind
1528 doesn't.
That's how I tell the difference :)
Yeah, 1539 was a good one, as long as 1534 doesn't get withdrawn for a while I'll be happy :), and I don't think it will, spotted on the 127 Monday
1666 was on the 55 today and 4760 was on the 35 if you can call those rares
Quote from: 4504 on June 06, 2012, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
The Dudley Road merc was in the old TWM livery so could have been 1528/9 i couldnt see correctly as i was on the 402 at the time but im 99% sure 1538 was parked up there it looks like the old 404 mercs are being targeted for withdrawal shame as 1539 is one of the best mercs they have especially in its first livery which was in a perfect state when debranded from the 404
1529 has a side destination blind
1528 doesn't.
That's how I tell the difference :)
Yeah, 1539 was a good one, as long as 1534 doesn't get withdrawn for a while I'll be happy :), and I don't think it will, spotted on the 127 Monday
Yeah i only saw the back of the buses very quickly and not the side due to the way they were parked, 1534 was on the 410 today so still in service and becuase its been refurbished and repainted it will remain in service for a while longer i would have thought
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 10:25:15 PM
Quote from: 4504 on June 06, 2012, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 06:17:48 PM
The Dudley Road merc was in the old TWM livery so could have been 1528/9 i couldnt see correctly as i was on the 402 at the time but im 99% sure 1538 was parked up there it looks like the old 404 mercs are being targeted for withdrawal shame as 1539 is one of the best mercs they have especially in its first livery which was in a perfect state when debranded from the 404
1529 has a side destination blind
1528 doesn't.
That's how I tell the difference :)
Yeah, 1539 was a good one, as long as 1534 doesn't get withdrawn for a while I'll be happy :), and I don't think it will, spotted on the 127 Monday
Yeah i only saw the back of the buses very quickly and not the side due to the way they were parked, 1534 was on the 410 today so still in service and becuase its been refurbished and repainted it will remain in service for a while longer i would have thought
Hs it been refurbished? ??? Last I checked they just repainted it and removed the 404 route maps off the windows
1534 might not have been refurbed just thought it could have been especially when it was repainted alot of mercs were being fully refurbed at that time
I don't if any of you would class this as an unusual working but I saw 7084 (R 84 GNW) on the 410 at 12:43 today near to where i live in Wednesbury.
if you said it was working on the 410 this evening after the buses off the 428/9 do the 410 workings in the evening i would say it was not rare, but to see it in the daytime its very rare as its normally sees merc operation only
I saw a 56 reg claribells bus heading down the Bristol Road away from town about 5 PM and then it turend off at the 1 towards the cricket ground. Never seen a claribells anywhere else except east Birmingham. Any ideas what It coulld have been doing there
Heres the link to it, don't think it was in service as it didn't have any passangers on
http://wmbusphotos.com/Claribels/yj56kcv.html
1534 hasn't had a refurb, last time i went on it half the seats were hanging off. Just so im clear, 1538 and 1539 are parked outside WB garage
Claribels have the contract for the Test Match shuttle service from Edgbaston into the City Centre.
Pensnett had 4804 operating on the 140/241 yesterday (Wednesday) which provided a very nice run out to Dudley!
Quote from: Ashley on June 07, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
1534 hasn't had a refurb, last time i went on it half the seats were hanging off.
Not very likely. I don't think any bus would get anywhere near getting into service like that
524 on the 688
534 on the 404 also a B10L
534 and a b10L on the 404 :o thats super rare i doubt they had the destination blinds tho i dont think they have blackheath or cradley heath on them but this may have changed, 1896 also on the 404 looks like a few of the branded omnilinks were unavailable
534 had a blank blind don't know about the B10L
Only saw it from the side
2138 was out on the 957 this evening had the chance to ride on it back to Sheldon :)
4082 on the 87
4235 on the 904
4870 on the 997
4175 & 4432 on the 24
4714 on the 128
Quote from: Ash on June 06, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
1695 was on the 428
569 on the 428 must have transferred in from Walsall as it had full destination blinds
3611 was also on the 428/9
4526 was on the 406
4321 and 4586 both on the 79
Also there were 5/6 mercs parked in the outside park up over the road from the garage which some looked to be 1538 and some Dudley Road branded mercs with i think was 1526 along with 1532/87 which has been there for around 2 weeks
The Dudley Road merc you saw must have been 1528, because I saw 1529 on the 89 today. 1528 must be ready for withdrawal, explains why I saw 1632 operating the 89 the other day.
Thanks 4504, yeah it must have been 1528 as i knew it was a dudley road merc due to the branding on the back it had and it was in the old TWM livery. I thought WB might have had a merc from BY after 1698 incident and it still parked at the front of WB garage with cones round it and the engine fire damage can be clearly seen.
Solos again on the 301 diamond why they are crap no room leave the dafs on or the hybrids use the solos for tendered routes thats all they are good for.
Most of the '02' cadets, 30205/16/18 along with a red diamond cadet on the 404E and no solos :) but solo's on the 301 is going to happen after withdrawing the older larger darts and replacing them with solo's and shorter darts
4048 on the 406
4090 on the 405
4233 on the 448B
4585 on the 79 in the daytime seems to be more tridents sneaking on the route in place of spectra's
4308 was also on the daytime 79 today. The Spectras were on the 1,11,32/33 and 79. 4595 was also on the 11. 600 was on the 276, 1633 did an afternoon stint on the 120, 4801/5/10 plus 2 B7RLE's were on the 246. 1751 was on the 70A
Quote from: Ashley on June 08, 2012, 10:03:27 PM
4801/5/10 plus 2 B7RLE's were on the 246.
Fair play to PE they really have stepped things up slightly on the 246 recently, but come January things are likely to fall back again as you pointed out yourself that a Merc was on the 120 so that Merc therotically would have to swap with a 246 B7 and the 141 will have to be all Enviro potentially taking away a spare Enviro when a Merc occasionally pops up on the 141
I don't actually see what's wrong with Mercs on the 246. The 17 has had Mercs for over 10 years, and that's a Birmingham route, plus, the main priority should be on Birmingham currently
Quote from: Ash on June 08, 2012, 05:18:04 PM
Most of the '02' cadets, 30205/16/18 along with a red diamond cadet on the 404E and no solos :) but solo's on the 301 is going to happen after withdrawing the older larger darts and replacing them with solo's and shorter darts
4048 on the 406
4090 on the 405
4233 on the 448B
4585 on the 79 in the daytime seems to be more tridents sneaking on the route in place of spectra's
Is 405/406 Double Decker Operated now
Quote from: NathanJC on June 09, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
Is 405/406 Double Decker Operated now
No, mostly Mercedes, but the odd double decker does creep onto the routes at times.
Hybrid 30128 on the 007 today, first time i've seen one on that route
4513 - working 74
1834 - working 952
1806 - working X64
4426 - Working 9/9S
2093 - Working 141 + branded with Frankley ????
4826 - Working 9/9s + has a lighter shade of Red compared to others
BC plaxton also working 9/9S
+ Diamond Hybrid working 002
Quote from: NathanJC on June 11, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
4513 - working 74
1834 - working 952
1806 - working X64
4426 - Working 9/9S
2093 - Working 141 + branded with Frankley ????
4826 - Working 9/9s + has a lighter shade of Red compared to others
BC plaxton also working 9/9S
Nathan,
What's unusual about 4513 working the 74?
2093 is a PE B7RLE, so it will not be branded for Frankley
Quote from: NathanJC on June 11, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
4426 - Working 9/9S
How many more times do we need to tell you Nathan, BC run one running board on the 9 each weekday morning which departs from Stourbridge around 7AM so it is never an unusual working
2093 is named Frank Foley
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2012, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 11, 2012, 03:29:32 PM
4513 - working 74
1834 - working 952
1806 - working X64
4426 - Working 9/9S
2093 - Working 141 + branded with Frankley ????
4826 - Working 9/9s + has a lighter shade of Red compared to others
BC plaxton also working 9/9S
The person Frankley some1 Didnt get the Last name sorry
Nathan,
What's unusual about 4513 working the 74?
2093 is a PE B7RLE, so it will not be branded for Frankley
4486 - Working 33
1922 - working 2
1683 - Working 55
Saw an Excel on the 82 on the Moseley Road.
I'm guessing this was due to 1673 breaking down on the 82 in Wolves Bus Station around midday.
Also saw 1676 on the 1, 4540 on the 11 and 4001 on the 529.
1539 looks set not to have been repainted in its life time, shame to see the ex 404 mercs getting withdrawn at least 1534 and 1537 at PE are still carrying on for now
1906 on the 65
4288 on the 115
Quote from: SMK on June 12, 2012, 03:45:09 PM
1676 on the 1, 4540 on the 11
Bloody hell, they had to change the Wolverhampton numbers to match the Birmingham stuff! I thought you meant the Birmingham routes first!
2081 was on the 4 in Wolves today. No it isn't a spelling mistake
Quote from: Ashley on June 12, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
2081 was on the 4 in Wolves today. No it isn't a spelling mistake
Speaking of 2081, looks like it's had a replacement front bumper.
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2081.html
The most recent one has no front logo.
Quote from: Michael on June 12, 2012, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 12, 2012, 10:19:31 PM
2081 was on the 4 in Wolves today. No it isn't a spelling mistake
Speaking of 2081, looks like it's had a replacement front bumper.
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2081.html
The most recent one has no front logo.
It got that after about 2 weeks in service. That is the same with 4852, which got part of an new front bumper, in a different red under a week after entering service.
Bumped already no more new buses for pensnett then or was it a modification
I don't know if this an unusual working but i saw 30828 (BX 09 SNZ.) Royale Black Diamond on the 401/2 in Wood Lane West Bromwich today 13/06/12.
saw 687 on route 1 in wolves around an hour ago
Dudley Road branded Gemini working the 702 / 3 school service in Wilenhall which then goes onto the 75 / 75E / 74E for daytime duties.
So WB now operate some Walsall school runs?
Quote from: mozza2k12 on June 13, 2012, 04:12:55 PM
I don't know if this an unusual working but i saw 30828 (BX 09 SNZ.) Royale Black Diamond on the 401/2 in Wood Lane West Bromwich today 13/06/12.
Yeah to get the royale black diamond on the 401/2 is quite rare
7084 was on the 405/6
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2012, 10:22:08 PM
So WB now operate some Walsall school runs?
Yes, Ashley they have since September. 702 Bentley - Thomas Moore School a.m. and 703 Thomas Moore School to New Invention p.m.
On the occasions I see it a regular 3 0r 4 drivers same driver on both runs. I assume it goes off to 75 / 75E / 74 becuase it is often a Soho Road branded bus.
Is it because the routes operate closer to WB depot or are there other reasons?
1435 - working 70A
1446 - Working 7
1785 - Still Branded with your 37 from AG
3752 - working 1 (Walsall - Cannock)
30129 - Working 301
30128 - Working 301
Wasnt all Diamond Hybrids for service 56 becuase of the new emmission but so Far ive seen 1 or 2 on there and the rest moving on to other routes such as 301/002/007 etc
2084 on 243/244
1932 seen on the 31A at around 15:20
Quote from: NathanJC on June 14, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
1435 - working 70A
1446 - Working 7
1785 - Still Branded with your 37 from AG
3752 - working 1 (Walsall - Cannock)
30129 - Working 301
30128 - Working 301
Wasnt all Diamond Hybrids for service 56 becuase of the new emmission but so Far ive seen 1 or 2 on there and the rest moving on to other routes such as 301/002/007 etc
Routes 7 & 70 are both booked for B10Ls, so neither of those is unusual, 1785 isn't still branded, although whoever removed the branding didn't get all the glue off so some dirt is sticking to it making it readable again
wn 25 operated by b7 2004
Quote from: NathanJC on June 14, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
1435 - working 70A
1446 - Working 7
1785 - Still Branded with your 37 from AG
3752 - working 1 (Walsall - Cannock)
30129 - Working 301
30128 - Working 301
Wasnt all Diamond Hybrids for service 56 becuase of the new emmission but so Far ive seen 1 or 2 on there and the rest moving on to other routes such as 301/002/007 etc
Yes, Nathan JC you are right but Diamond discovered they don't have the capacity of the Royales and aren't sufficient for certain journey.
The Royales went onto the 404E but drivers complained about them being too big to turn round in Bradford Place when it is crowded and it is very tight turning them in Caldmore on journeys back to West Brom. So, two big investments in vehicles the Royales and the Hybrids and they don't really know what to do with them.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on June 14, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 14, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
1435 - working 70A
1446 - Working 7
1785 - Still Branded with your 37 from AG
3752 - working 1 (Walsall - Cannock)
30129 - Working 301
30128 - Working 301
Wasnt all Diamond Hybrids for service 56 becuase of the new emmission but so Far ive seen 1 or 2 on there and the rest moving on to other routes such as 301/002/007 etc
Yes, Nathan JC you are right but Diamond discovered they don't have the capacity of the Royales and aren't sufficient for certain journey.
The Royales went onto the 404E but drivers complained about them being too big to turn round in Bradford Place when it is crowded and it is very tight turning them in Caldmore on journeys back to West Brom. So, two big investments in vehicles the Royales and the Hybrids and they don't really know what to do with them.
So thats the reason why the royales got taken off the 404E but the royales are still used on the service on sundays i guess when its quieter although the centros used to operate the service before the arrival of the mcv's. The hybrids are suppose to be used on both the 56 and 301 according to the diamond facebook website and at the moment the cadets from the 301 seem to be used on the 404E
Also b6le 624 is withdrawn from WB it is now parked up with the other withdrawn mercs at the outer parking area of west brom garage not suprised as 624 hasnt sounded good for a bit now and is in the travel west midlans livery and has not been refurbished.
4530 on the 406!!
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2012, 08:10:43 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 14, 2012, 04:21:32 PM
1435 - working 70A
1446 - Working 7
1785 - Still Branded with your 37 from AG
3752 - working 1 (Walsall - Cannock)
30129 - Working 301
30128 - Working 301
Wasnt all Diamond Hybrids for service 56 becuase of the new emmission but so Far ive seen 1 or 2 on there and the rest moving on to other routes such as 301/002/007 etc
Routes 7 & 70 are both booked for B10Ls, so neither of those is unusual, 1785 isn't still branded, although whoever removed the branding didn't get all the glue off so some dirt is sticking to it making it readable again
Oh I didn't know that :P, & most of the bus is covered with Adverts but, the parts that arnt you can still see the 37 branding
1946 made an unusual apperance on 71
4767 working 51
4681 working 997
296 on the 25
Quote from: NathanJC on June 15, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
1946 made an unusual apperance on 71
Not very unusual to be honest. You often get a couple on the 71/72, whilst 2107 was working the 37 today along with a couple of Eclipses on the 1.
1953 was on the S1 and 2108 was also on the 37. I think that 7020 was also on the 31.
Quote from: John-s-91 on June 15, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
1953 was on the S1 and 2108 was also on the 37. I think that 7020 was also on the 31.
7020 must have been on earlier in the day because I've just got back and 7019 and 7020 had just arrived in convoy on the 37. Possibly a rare sight to see both of them together!
Branded 1 buses on the 560, 74/5 branded vdls on 2, X31 branded bus on 560 typical crap allocations again by Arriva cannock why bloody bother just get rid and leave in standard livery waste of sodding money branding a bus up to not be used on the route, sort out the repairs or have a better fleet not just crap clapped out dennis darts and older dafs
1405 - Working 65
4177 - Working 61/63 (all over red Branded 97/97A)
1403 - working 67
1906 - Working 7
Arricas Cannock fleet has been worse in recent years, The various step entrance Scanias, the worst being the ones with high backed seats, trashed Lynxes being just 2 examples.
On another note. Excel 704 ran from Finchfield into Wolves on the first 62, it arrived late into town and then Solo 293 went out on the next trip
its not unusual to see an excel on the 62, they appear every so often if a solo breaks down etc. also, when the 62 arrives into wolves, that bus then turns into a 26 to bilston
I remember when it was the 682, after the last trip it would go on the afternoon 528s. Doesn't a solo go on the 11 during school holidays because during term time, the Spectras stay on the 11 all day, same for 32/33
Quote from: Discodave on June 16, 2012, 03:48:33 PM
Branded 1 buses on the 560, 74/5 branded vdls on 2, X31 branded bus on 560 typical crap allocations again by Arriva cannock why bloody bother just get rid and leave in standard livery waste of sodding money branding a bus up to not be used on the route, sort out the repairs or have a better fleet not just crap clapped out dennis darts and older dafs
I saw one of Burton's DAF's yesterday and jumped on it to get home on the 112, 3710, in the same batch as some of Cannock's...it's been totally retrimmed, refurbished and repainted and looks brilliant...these buses are only 10 years old like some of NXWM's Tridents that are being overhauled, so maybe Arriva will overhaul all of these to a similar standard. Like any bus, if they're looked after you don't notice the age.
Quote from: andy on June 17, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Discodave on June 16, 2012, 03:48:33 PM
Branded 1 buses on the 560, 74/5 branded vdls on 2, X31 branded bus on 560 typical crap allocations again by Arriva cannock why bloody bother just get rid and leave in standard livery waste of sodding money branding a bus up to not be used on the route, sort out the repairs or have a better fleet not just crap clapped out dennis darts and older dafs
I saw one of Burton's DAF's yesterday and jumped on it to get home on the 112, 3710, in the same batch as some of Cannock's...it's been totally retrimmed, refurbished and repainted and looks brilliant...these buses are only 10 years old like some of NXWM's Tridents that are being overhauled, so maybe Arriva will overhaul all of these to a similar standard. Like any bus, if they're looked after you don't notice the age.
Only if Cannock make money the buses will be replaced or overhauled usually they get shitty cast offs and the good buses transferred elsewhere would not be suprised if the newer buses they have get moved elsewhere and crap in return
Surely it is common sense and simple economics that the newer buses go to the most profitable garages.You cannot say ,on one hand,that Cannock routes lose money and then criticise Arriva for not filling the garage with expensive new buses.
A good idea would be to study the history of Crosville and it's successor (one of them) Crosville Wales to understand the reason for the age profile at garages.
Quote from: arrifirststage on June 17, 2012, 06:02:57 PM
Surely it is common sense and simple economics that the newer buses go to the most profitable garages.You cannot say ,on one hand,that Cannock routes lose money and then criticise Arriva for not filling the garage with expensive new buses.
A good idea would be to study the history of Crosville and it's successor (one of them) Crosville Wales to understand the reason for the age profile at garages.
People would get on cannocks buses if they all were not scrap they only get new buses when the council pay for them as part of quality partnerships. Pye greens make money crap clapped out mpd pointer darts on them mainly. Route 1 does well clapped out DAF sb 200's on them a lot of routes do well in Cannock but are either ruined by meddling by bosses trying to make them serve every nook and cranny or people are put off by a poor fleet and high fares a lot of passengers in my arriva days have always moaned about bus quality compared with other arriva areas like telford and tamworth
Diamond Workings Today
30130 Hybrid on the 417
30133 Hybrid on the 002 and has etching on the emergency exit door.
4802 on the X96
2019 on the 255
4006 and a eclipse on the 257
Quote from: Tomjusttom on June 18, 2012, 06:54:49 PM
4802 on the X96
2019 on the 255
4006 and a eclipse on the 257
2019 replaced a sick Trident mid-morning. There was also a Spectra on the 59 and Excel 715 on the 1. It appears that WN has a shortage of Tridents.
Its not a Trident shortage, many are parked up at Park Lane for schools and spares, either that or Tridents were running the 11/32/33 in place of Spectras today. Either that or weve got more away for repaint
4012 on 126
Arriva 2959 on the 112
2027 and a Merc on the 25 this morning
Quote from: Ashley on June 18, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
Its not a Trident shortage, many are parked up at Park Lane for schools and spares, either that or Tridents were running the 11/32/33 in place of Spectras today. Either that or weve got more away for repaint
4010 has been on the 529 today, and both 1672 and 1674 have been on the 255. There are supposedly 7 WN routes that are 100% Trident operation. These are 1, 59, 126, 255, 256, 257 and 529. In the past two days, every one of these routes has seen other types of buses substituting for Tridents. Therefore, WN must be suffering from a temporary shortage of operational Tridents.
18th June;
4128 - working 997
1479 - working 6
4494 - Working 67
1480 - Working 65]
1463 - working 65] noticed that B1OLS are becoming quite common on the 65 now
4137 - Working X51
Operate Versa working 112
2623 - working 110
3805 - Working 110
19th June;
4872 - Working X51 also got no NXWM logo or Connection Bars Now :-\
1699 - working 55
1899 -working 77
1453 - working 41
4683 - working 997
Another Diamond Hybrid 30136 on the 002 today. It's great to get one on this route to travel on.
Quote from: Roy on June 19, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 18, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
Its not a Trident shortage, many are parked up at Park Lane for schools and spares, either that or Tridents were running the 11/32/33 in place of Spectras today. Either that or weve got more away for repaint
4010 has been on the 529 today, and both 1672 and 1674 have been on the 255. There are supposedly 7 WN routes that are 100% Trident operation. These are 1, 59, 126, 255, 256, 257 and 529. In the past two days, every one of these routes has seen other types of buses substituting for Tridents. Therefore, WN must be suffering from a temporary shortage of operational Tridents.
Seen a few Mercs on the 1 as well as Excels of late, which is utter suicide, especially as it was still out running at 5PM. Along with around 2-3 Spectra's each day with 1 always popping up on the 126.
I suppose a few Tridents are getting to the age where repairs are needed and lengthy ones, there have also been a few in for refurb
Quote from: NathanJC on June 19, 2012, 04:19:50 PM
19th June;
4872 - Working X51 also got no NXWM logo or Connection Bars Now :-\
That looks like one of the Olympic ones going soon.
Quote from: thetruth on June 19, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
4508 on the 448
I keep missing the DD's on the 448 (It is more likley an ALX400 rather than a Gemini), Will hopefully be an regular occurrence with less Mercedes and B6's at West Brom.
Quote from: thetruth on June 19, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
524, 568 and 591 on the 401/2 (thought I'd time travelled back to 2011)
4508 on the 448
1781 on the 404
1632 on the 80
b6le's seem to be appearing more regualary on the 401/2 perhaps due to WB gaining 2 extra from Walsall and some of the loaned ones returning from BC. There is often a merc on the 80 sometimes even a b6le i think these can be the peak extra's. The 404 often sees the eclipses and makes a nice change to scania omnilinks on the service although be nice to see a double decker on it even if its an ex walsall road trident
Versa hybrid on the 226 this evening
2027 on the wolves 25/25a vehicles seem to be all over the place.
Omnilink (maybe 1819) on the 8E
1672 on the 255 today
There's been a hybrid on the 002 everyday this week, 30129 was on route today. 30810 has been missing for a while now.
On the 417 was a small red diamond bus which I think it was 20502 which I just about saw.
Diamond hybrid 30134 on the 404E and 30136 on the 417
NXWM
4269 on th 410
4522 on the 410
2 double deckers on the 410 very rare but they were stuck together most of the day due to the traffic so one was always empty with the other quite full (both upper and lower decks)
4523 on the 449
3601 on the 447
4327 also having a day back on the 79
I can only think of one other recent occasion where there have been 2 double deckers on the 410 in the same day, sometime in 2011, there was a toothpaste President and 4290, there may have been other occassions since then but im just sharing what I know
Double deckers use to be on the 410 on sundays as it interworks with 401 but now instead of double deckers they use mercs on a sunday. I think as more mercs are being withdrawn the double deckers at West Brom are appearing on quite a few of the town services rather than just the service into Birmingham and the 451
4878/4876/4874 - Have lost connection Bars & NXWM logos
4130 - made it on X51 ] Were have all the Branded gemini's gone
2107 - working 37
2094 - Branded with EArl of Dudley
1836 - working 907
4514 on the 402
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4514.html
The 874, which is a morning schools bus service to Bishops Walsh, Walmley, seems to have changed to single-deck operation of late; historically it's always been a dd. I think the bus runs light into Sutton Coldfield after dropping off the kids and then works one of the 9** cluster (possibly the 907?) but don't quote me on that!
1834 and 1837 noted this week.
1678 on the 529! Plus another merc on the 1
Quote from: Tomjusttom on June 21, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
1678 on the 529! Plus another merc on the 1
Plus 1669 on the 255. WN really do have problems finding enough available Tridents at present.
I saw two Hybrid on the 002 might have been three but I did see for sure 30130 and 30136, They've been appearing on the 002 regularly now, are they still being used on the 56.
Quote from: Roy on June 21, 2012, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: Tomjusttom on June 21, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
1678 on the 529! Plus another merc on the 1
Plus 1669 on the 255. WN really do have problems finding enough available Tridents at present.
The 255 regularly has 0405s on anyway. Tridents aren't infrequent, but the Mercs regularly appear.
Quote from: Jack Grove on June 21, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Roy on June 21, 2012, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: Tomjusttom on June 21, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
1678 on the 529! Plus another merc on the 1
Plus 1669 on the 255. WN really do have problems finding enough available Tridents at present.
The 255 regularly has 0405s on anyway. Tridents aren't infrequent, but the Mercs regularly appear.
Since when? The 255 has been solid Tridents for months, single deckers only normally appear on Sundays now or occassionally covering a breakdown etc
I saw a Merc on the 90 route earlier, it had 55 in the rear display so suggests to me that it was a BY vehicle.
I didn't realise that BY ran some journeys on the 90, it muct have been a school run extra or something was about 1530hrs.
Quote from: Winston on June 21, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Jack Grove on June 21, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Roy on June 21, 2012, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: Tomjusttom on June 21, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
1678 on the 529! Plus another merc on the 1
Plus 1669 on the 255. WN really do have problems finding enough available Tridents at present.
The 255 regularly has 0405s on anyway. Tridents aren't infrequent, but the Mercs regularly appear.
Since when? The 255 has been solid Tridents for months, single deckers only normally appear on Sundays now or occassionally covering a breakdown etc
To back Winston up, the 255 is officially 8 Trident duties and has been since the 43xx Tridents arrived at Wolverhampton in January.
I'm not involved with the company, so wouldn't know anything official, but living on the route there are quite frequently Mercs on there.
Quote from: Mike360 on June 21, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
I saw two Hybrid on the 002 might have been three but I did see for sure 30130 and 30136, They've been appearing on the 002 regularly now, are they still being used on the 56.
30129 also on the 417, i believe only 4 are used off peak during the day on the 56 and the other 4 get used on other services such as the 002,301,404E and 417.
Today
4514 on the 401/2
658 (I think but definately a B^) on the 77
Quote from: fleetline6477 on June 21, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
Today
4514 on the 401/2
658 (I think but definately a B^) on the 77
4053 and 4269 were both on the 449.
4514 on the 401/2 again today thats double rare two days in a row, good to see double deckers being used on a variety of routes at WB pitty the 404 isnt still with WB might see a few double deckers on there then
658 - 77
1899 - 40
a 46xx Gemini on the 41
517 - 29
1440 - 69
A few Black Diamond Solos were on the 301 along with HYBRID vERSA
In Wolverhampton, the alleged vehicle shortage meant that
2028 - 11
1678 - 529
Spectra - 59
Quote from: Jack Grove on June 21, 2012, 06:36:21 PM
I'm not involved with the company, so wouldn't know anything official, but living on the route there are quite frequently Mercs on there.
I travel along the 255 route on the 257 which crosses over at various points almost every day, every week and for almost over a year I haven't seen a Merc on the 255, mainly Tridents as previously pointed out with a Spectra occassionally covering
1669 was on the 255 today, with blank blinds.
There was also 2 Mercedes out on the 74 (1653) and 75 (NXWM livered) today.
Quote from: John-s-91 on June 21, 2012, 10:08:51 PM
There was also 2 Mercedes out on the 74 (1653) and 75 (NXWM livered) today.
This doesnt suprise after how may of the double deckers have been used on the town centre services suchas the 401/2 and 449, good to see the mercs back on their old service (74) as this will soon be a thing of the past
1600 was on the 429 today 8)
Quote from: wilmotm on June 21, 2012, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: Jack Grove on June 21, 2012, 06:36:21 PM
I'm not involved with the company, so wouldn't know anything official, but living on the route there are quite frequently Mercs on there.
I travel along the 255 route on the 257 which crosses over at various points almost every day, every week and for almost over a year I haven't seen a Merc on the 255, mainly Tridents as previously pointed out with a Spectra occassionally covering
A Merc/B7RLE will crop up on the 255 on odd occassions Mon-Sat, the route it allocated solidly Tridents normally, on Sundays Mercs are the norm along with the odd B7RLE
1795 operating on the 313 service today. Strange seeing the toothpaste colours in walsalls bradford place.
Quote from: andyr on June 22, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
1795 operating on the 313 service today. Strange seeing the toothpaste colours in walsalls bradford place.
There are also two Scania's out on the 40/41 today. At least one is Walsall's own, I'm not sure about the other.
I don't know if it was because of a breakdown or if they were taking a bus off to be wrapped, but 4132 was on the 40/41 this morning, in Walsall it was swapped for an OmniLink with 4132 then going on to the X51.
1795 was on the 313 as already noted on here
1882 made a rare appearence on the 311 as its normally used on the 404
1893 was on the 40
2 Diamond hybrids on the 301 with one being the all over green one (30130) and a normal black diamond livery hybrid.
One working that is scheduled, so technically isn't rare, but is unusual is that what I presume is the 0854 302 ex Walsall is operated by a double deck. I have seen this be a Trident on several occasions, but have also seen Gems & Enviros on this particular journey.
Hansons 1742 vice Enviro200 was on the 004 this afternoon
1742 came of the earlier 318 working Tom!
1813 was on one of the BC duties on the 9 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1813.html
but typically when you take a photo specifically for the route it is on the destination doesn't show! At least no other BC services pass where the photo was taken!
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2012, 08:45:41 PM
1813 was on one of the BC duties on the 9 today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1813.html
but typically when you take a photo specifically for the route it is on the destination doesn't show! At least no other BC services pass where the photo was taken!
Not even the side LED showing! Bad luck!
4680 on the 51 this evening which i believe to be an unusual working since the enviro400 have arrived
Quote from: jc on June 22, 2012, 07:57:16 PM
1742 came of the earlier 318 working Tom!
It replaced 2602 on the 004 because of a broken window according to the driver of it.
Quote from: Ash on June 22, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
4680 on the 51 this evening which i believe to be an unusual working since the enviro400 have arrived
It was out earlier (half 2) on there too.
Quote from: Mike360 on June 21, 2012, 02:22:32 PM
I saw two Hybrid on the 002 might have been three but I did see for sure 30130 and 30136, They've been appearing on the 002 regularly now, are they still being used on the 56.
During the day the 56 is Hybrid Operated, During Peak hours Hybirds are used alongside Dennis Dart SLF's & Most Evenings & Sunday Journeys are Hybrid Operated
22nd June
4517 - working 966
4243 - Working 115
4532 - Working 33
4766 - Working X51
4127 - Working X51
Does anyone know were the Branded X51 Geminis have gone, I know 1 or 2 are used but the rest seem to either be Trident/Envrio operated
Quote from: NathanJC on June 23, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
22nd June
4517 - working 966
4243 - Working 115
4532 - Working 33
4766 - Working X51
4127 - Working X51
Does anyone know were the Branded X51 Geminis have gone, I know 1 or 2 are used but the rest seem to either be Trident/Envrio operated
I would have thought it unlikely that Gemini 4532 (now at WB) was working the 33
4133 on route 69 today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 23, 2012, 04:45:25 PM
4133 on route 69 today
A Trident on the 69 is not that unusual. It does seem that while B6 is the norm Tridents do often appear as does a Volvo B7.
Unusual today
1766 on 997
4279 on 67
4510 on 450
Tridents did used to be quite common on the 69 alongside wright eclipse gemini(4680-4686) sometimes but now all i see now is Mainly B6LE, B10L and a B7RLE aswell in the week. The journeys operated by Tridents use B7RLE's.
B7RLE's on the 997 are uncommon on Mon-Sat daytimes but are the main allocation for the 997 on Evenings and sundays.
Yesterday:
2075 on Route 59
707 made an appearance on route 6.
there was a B7RLE on Route 25/25A the other day.(Think it was 2018).
Also the other day 4010 and 4011 were on the 25/25A.
2013 was out on the 10 yesterday.
There was a toothpaste livered Omnilink on the 40.
Today:
There seems to be a lot of Tridents on the 79 Mon-Sat daytimes. Usually tridents operate on sundays.
1678 on the 81
4125 back on the 51's today
4128 on the X51
1806 on the 18A
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1806.html
probably not uncommon but 4503, 4524 and 4533 were on the 87 today along with a Merc, think it was 1560, having three 03 reg Gems on the 87 probably would explain why 4715 was on the 128, the nearside fleetname is missing, dont tell me its an olympic bus (i know it isn't)
1523 and 1651 were on the 89.
1620 is back in service, seen on the 246
4826 is also back from refurb, saw it on the 9
All BC Tridents I saw in Solihull today in TWM livery had no side logos.
Quote from: Ashley on June 23, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
probably not uncommon but 4503, 4524 and 4533 were on the 87 today along with a Merc, think it was 1560, having three 03 reg Gems on the 87 probably would explain why 4715 was on the 128, the nearside fleetname is missing, dont tell me its an olympic bus (i know it isn't)
1523 and 1651 were on the 89.
1620 is back in service, seen on the 246
4826 is also back from refurb, saw it on the 9
4524 & 4533 are 53 Reg Ashley ;)
Quote from: Winston on June 23, 2012, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 23, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
22nd June
4517 - working 966
4243 - Working 115
4532 - Working 33
4766 - Working X51
4127 - Working X51
Does anyone know were the Branded X51 Geminis have gone, I know 1 or 2 are used but the rest seem to either be Trident/Envrio operated
I would have thought it unlikely that Gemini 4532 (now at WB) was working the 33
Sorry typo error it was actully 4732
trident 4385 on route 11/32/33
Omnilink 1841 on Rail replacement in wolverhampton
Quote from: Ashley on June 23, 2012, 11:03:17 PM
probably not uncommon but 4503, 4524 and 4533 were on the 87 today along with a Merc, think it was 1560, having three 03 reg Gems on the 87 probably would explain why 4715 was on the 128, the nearside fleetname is missing, dont tell me its an olympic bus (i know it isn't)
1523 and 1651 were on the 89.
1620 is back in service, seen on the 246
4826 is also back from refurb, saw it on the 9
To see a merc on the 87 is super rare especially after WB have recieved so many double deckers recently being the presidents and gemini's although i have seen a alx200 dart on the 87 before. The unbranded 06 gemini's got used regulary on other WB services and its not uncommon to see them on the 74/5/80/127/128 and even the 451
Sorry I meant to say they were 53 reg, you knew what I meant haha. It was a split second thing, i saw 2 Geminis coming up the hill past the zoo, then i saw a Merc, i saw the 87 and then the rear end
1777 on the 935A
1903 on the 935
both heading into Birmingham :)
Quote from: Rob H on June 25, 2012, 09:02:33 AM
1777 on the 935A
1903 on the 935
both heading into Birmingham :)
also 4126 was out on the X51 this morning
BC 1798 out this morning on the 14
4698 - working 907 ] havent seen this bus in a long time
4781 - working Sutton Lines along side 4777 ] normally operating 115 but recently it has been Gemini/ALX Operated
1798 - working 14
4870 - working X51
Branded Tourchwood Connection 37 working 119 (Sutton Coldfeild - Asda Superstore)
684 on the 82 (I noticed the two seats behind the driver have been replaced with those that you find in 4001/2).
2005 came into Wolves Bus Station to replace 1670 which had broken down on the 82.
4013 on the 529 along with a Spectra on both the 59 and 1.
292 on the 11.
The 2 seats on 684 have been like that for years now.
Spectras aren't unusual on the 59, and solos are common on the 11 in late afternoon and also spectras are common on the 1. At 16:55 today 2013 was on the 2 but it is very rare to find a B7RLE 2 on the 529.
Today:
Optare Solo 281 on route 10
O405N 1671 on route 81
B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban 2 2006 on route 25/25A
B7RLE Wright Eclipse urban 2 2077 on route 25/25A
Not that uncommon but i saw One of the new Midland Omnicitys on route 10. I have seen these Omnicitys on the 10 a couple of times. looks very smart in Midland Livery.(Think the fleet number was 6041).
Very rare to get two B7RLE on route 25/25A. It's unusual to get 1 B7RLE on the 25/25A
I thought the 81 was only operated Optare Excels. This is the first time i've saw a O405N on the 81
I have never saw a Solo on the 10 but 281 was on there today
Wen 684 got its repaint in 2009, the 2 seats behind the driver were replaced with the ones you see, they don't come from our Spectras but you'd find them in former Reading low floor Spectras. I think a Solo that works the 62/62A comes on the 11 in the afternoons. Its not often you get a Merc on the 81.
4698 is always out in service whenever im in Sutton. 4781 or any of the Omnicitys are virtually confined to the Sutton routes like the 115/914.
It's better now than when the OmniCity's used to be confined to the 16.
No I meant the double decker Scanias. The Omnilinks are used on the 914 on sundays though
so am I
Sorry I didn't realise, my mistake
Quote from: Ashley on June 25, 2012, 08:07:22 PM
Sorry I didn't realise, my mistake
Thats ok Ashley. I was thinking when around 2009/2010, when it was rare to find them on any other route rather than the 16. Now it would be rare to find one on the 16!
I didn't realise they were on the 16 regularly for a time
1752 and 1754 on the 404 with 1881/2 being used on the 311/313
Quote from: Ashley on June 25, 2012, 08:01:05 PM
Wen 684 got its repaint in 2009, the 2 seats behind the driver were replaced with the ones you see, they don't come from our Spectras but you'd find them in former Reading low floor Spectras. I think a Solo that works the 62/62A comes on the 11 in the afternoons. Its not often you get a Merc on the 81.
4698 is always out in service whenever im in Sutton. 4781 or any of the Omnicitys are virtually confined to the Sutton routes like the 115/914.
Normally Ominicitys are Working the 115 / 907, There hasnt been one working the 904/905/902/915 for sometime its normally Enviro/Gemini/ALX operated, There Hasn't been an Ominicity on the 914 for some time now either
4698 on the 7 today
4125/4134 on the X51
4133 on the 51
Quote from: NathanJC on June 26, 2012, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: Ashley on June 25, 2012, 08:01:05 PM
Wen 684 got its repaint in 2009, the 2 seats behind the driver were replaced with the ones you see, they don't come from our Spectras but you'd find them in former Reading low floor Spectras. I think a Solo that works the 62/62A comes on the 11 in the afternoons. Its not often you get a Merc on the 81.
4698 is always out in service whenever im in Sutton. 4781 or any of the Omnicitys are virtually confined to the Sutton routes like the 115/914.
Normally Ominicitys are Working the 115 / 907, There hasnt been one working the 904/905/902/915 for sometime its normally Enviro/Gemini/ALX operated, There Hasn't been an Ominicity on the 914 for some time now either
Quite how anybody would know there hasn't been an Omnicity on the 902/4/5/14/15 for sometime baffles me. Even the person doing the marking up at PB wouldn't, as he only marks up 5 days a week and someone else does it the other two. Nobody sees every journey on those routes every day
Im sorry but I have to disagree, the Omnicity DD's are always on Sutton routes, two were on the 115 today.
4482 - 914
566 - 77
1654 and 1673 - 81
4008 - 529
A B10L on the 6 to Sutton
Plus there was a 997 branded Enviro400 heading through Great Bridge around 11ish this morning
The enviro could have been to the bus parts place by Great Bridge by the Ridgacre pub.
1884 was on the 404 today instead of the usual 301 service.
Do you mean Carlyle just up from the retail park
Yeah i forgot the name remember i think it used to be called bus parts as the company name can be seen on replacement windows on some buses.
Yesterday:
2096 - Branded with Mark Simon & working the 9 unusal
4718 - working 67 peak journey
1844 - May have been working 934/934A/33 as I spotted it comeing down the Kings Road displaying NOT IN SERVICE
4480 - Been Re-painted & was working in Sutton
ALX unsure of the Fleet Working 934/934A
595 on the 444
4099 on the 401/2
4268 on the 448B
1795 back on the 311 along with 1881 which is unusual not to see it on the 404
1882/1893/1899/1900/1902/1904 all on the 404 must be a few branded ones off the road today.
4509 - working 449
4725 - working 33
1834 - broke down in Erdington, working 638, later replaced with a B1OL
4283 - Working 67 Daytime
1757 - working 935
Branded Blue Diamond 37 - working 119 again
Branded Blue Diamond 17 - Working 53
Quote from: NathanJC on June 28, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
4509 - working 449
4725 - working 33
1834 - broke down in Erdington, working 638, later replaced with a B1OL
4283 - Working 67 Daytime
1757 - working 935
Branded Blue Diamond 37 - working 119 again
Branded Blue Diamond 17 - Working 53
It was 4735 on the 33 as i caught it! 4723 was on the 934 and 4725 i caught on the 905!
Quote from: NathanJC on June 27, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Yesterday:
2096 - Branded with Mark Simon & working the 9 unusal
4718 - working 67 peak journey
1844 - May have been working 934/934A/33 as I spotted it comeing down the Kings Road displaying NOT IN SERVICE
4480 - Been Re-painted & was working in Sutton
ALX unsure of the Fleet Working 934/934A
4480? 4475 should be next out, I don't think 4480 has been done
1795 on 404
4480 hasn't been done yet
Quote from: Tony on June 28, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 27, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Yesterday:
2096 - Branded with Mark Simon & working the 9 unusal
4718 - working 67 peak journey
1844 - May have been working 934/934A/33 as I spotted it comeing down the Kings Road displaying NOT IN SERVICE
4480 - Been Re-painted & was working in Sutton
ALX unsure of the Fleet Working 934/934A
4480? 4475 should be next out, I don't think 4480 has been done
4480 has been re-painted because I spotted it in Sutton working either the Sutton Lines or 907
Today Workings:
Gemini - working 33
1843 - working 907
4697 - working 115
1540 - working 141
& Blue Diamond numberplate Y274 FJN broke down in Sutton Coldfeild working the 119 I presume
Quote from: NathanJC on June 29, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 28, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 27, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Yesterday:
2096 - Branded with Mark Simon & working the 9 unusal
4718 - working 67 peak journey
1844 - May have been working 934/934A/33 as I spotted it comeing down the Kings Road displaying NOT IN SERVICE
4480 - Been Re-painted & was working in Sutton
ALX unsure of the Fleet Working 934/934A
4480? 4475 should be next out, I don't think 4480 has been done
4480 has been re-painted because I spotted it in Sutton working either the Sutton Lines or 907
Today Workings:
Gemini - working 33
1843 - working 907
4697 - working 115
1540 - working 141
& Blue Diamond numberplate Y274 FJN broke down in Sutton Coldfeild working the 119 I presume
4480 confirmed as NOT done! Two more now in the process are 1767 & 4428
2066 on the 33 in Wolves.
4012, another Spectra and 4604 (branded for the 59's return ticket) on the 126
Is a Gemini on the 33 in Birmz unusual or not since the arrival of the Enviros? I saw one on there while I passed through Perry Barr.
I also so a white Omnilink on the M5 exit roundabout while I was on the 126. I wasn't close enough, so I couldn't make out it's fleetnumber or whether or not it belonged to NXWM.
4012 was still on the 126 after 20.30
4001 was running the evening route 1
706 - 27
510 - 141
4329/4752 - 6
Enviro400 - 3
4062 - 5
President on peak 37s
1795 - 311/313
I should add, alot of bunching was happening on Birmingham routes today, two 49s (4362 and 4382), three 957s, an hours worth in five minutes (4316,4315,4176 with new engine), two 5s, 8 Brstol Road buses convoying (yes really, 2 or 3 B7RLEs, 3 branded Presidents and 3 branded Tridents, in the space of 2 minutes).
But I will say, took me nearly 40 minutes on 4056 to get from the QE to new Street station because of alot of inbound traffic, yet after a walk across town, it took me 56 minutes to get from Brum to Wolves on 4580 on the 126 (i could rant on about the emission zone in this post but il save that for later)
QuotePresident on peak 37s
As stated several times previously, Presidents commonly appear on peak-time 37 journeys, so they don't really count as an unusual working.
Quote4480 has been re-painted because I spotted it in Sutton working either the Sutton Lines or 907
You sure it hadn't just been freshly washed? ;)
Quote from: Stu on June 30, 2012, 09:10:50 AM
QuotePresident on peak 37s
As stated several times previously, Presidents commonly appear on peak-time 37 journeys, so they don't really count as an unusual working.
Quote4480 has been re-painted because I spotted it in Sutton working either the Sutton Lines or 907
You sure it hadn't just been freshly washed? ;)
More likely missread the number on 4482 or one of the other repaints
I must have been 4480
Unidentified Scania Omnilink on the 31A seen in AG village at 15:30ish heading for the City.
I haven't seen any single deckers on the 31/31A since the departure of the B10Ls. I would have thought we'd see some Eclipses on there but obviously not. Having said that, 23 Eclipses replaced 25 B10Ls, so those two workings might just be operated by double deckers now.
4849 - working 907
4728 - working 33
4729 - working 33
Quote from: Michael on June 30, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
I haven't seen any single deckers on the 31/31A since the departure of the B10Ls. I would have thought we'd see some Eclipses on there but obviously not. Having said that, 23 Eclipses replaced 25 B10Ls, so those two workings might just be operated by double deckers now.
Not necessarily, it may be that fewer spares are required now the B10Ls have been replaced with brand new buses
Quote from: Michael on June 30, 2012, 07:32:14 PM
Unidentified Scania Omnilink on the 31A seen in AG village at 15:30ish heading for the City.
I haven't seen any single deckers on the 31/31A since the departure of the B10Ls. I would have thought we'd see some Eclipses on there but obviously not. Having said that, 23 Eclipses replaced 25 B10Ls, so those two workings might just be operated by double deckers now.
It was 7019 on the 31/31A yesterday, saw it passing my house a few times! I've seen a couple of Omnilinks on the 31 recently, as well as the 5. And last week I'm pretty sure there was an Urban on the 31 too (first time I ever saw one!).
626 has returned back to WB from WA seen on the 405 today, another b6le from Walsall
Outer Circle Gemini out on the 73 couldn't get the fleet number :)
2 Blue Diamond 37's out on the 97A
1814 out on the 900E
Bristol Road Branded 4444 out on the 97A
a B6LE working on Colemore Row unsure what number it was on or route ]was on 110 when spotted this
Branded 97/97A also working up Colemore Row unsure of fleet & number ]was 905 when spotted this
4766 - working X51
4488- Working 33 again
1836 - working 65
3809 - Working daytime 110 (Arriva)
1837 - working daytime 97/97A
1829 - Working 8A
1823 - working 8C
4130 - working 51
4685 - back on the X51 ;D
There were 2 70** omnilinks on the 952
1906 on the 952
682 on the 128
There was a green branded trident (pershore or bristol road) on the 90 today
1600 on the 74
Quote682 on the 128
Bet that was a fun journey for anyone on board! ;D
Someone on the NXWM Facebook page claims they saw a Walsall Omnilink on the 128 one morning last week, WB must be short of buses or something!
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote682 on the 128
Bet that was a fun journey for anyone on board! ;D
Someone on the NXWM Facebook page claims they saw a Walsall Omnilink on the 128 one morning last week, WB must be short of buses or something!
I don't think so, if Walsall were to loan WB a bus it would be a B6 or Gemini to make sure drivers could actually drive it, remember Walsall are having to borrow Omnilinks in at the moment!
Quote from: NathanJC on July 02, 2012, 04:53:26 PM
a B6LE working on Colemore Row unsure what number it was on or route ]was on 110 when spotted this
Branded 97/97A also working up Colemore Row unsure of fleet & number ]was 905 when spotted this
4766 - working X51
4488- Working 33 again
1836 - working 65
3809 - Working daytime 110 (Arriva)
1837 - working daytime 97/97A
1829 - Working 8A
1823 - working 8C
4130 - working 51
4685 - back on the X51 ;D
It was 1817 on the 97/97A Nathan ;) passed me by Bordesley Green Garage heading for Chelmsley Wood while I was on 4457 heading into Birmingham :)
4766 or any other leather seated Enviro on the X51 is definately not a rare working. It is booked for a mix of Enviros & Geminis
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote682 on the 128
Bet that was a fun journey for anyone on board! ;D
Someone on the NXWM Facebook page claims they saw a Walsall Omnilink on the 128 one morning last week, WB must be short of buses or something!
I don't think so, if Walsall were to loan WB a bus it would be a B6 or Gemini to make sure drivers could actually drive it, remember Walsall are having to borrow Omnilinks in at the moment!
Don't worry, I found it hard to believe myself, but WB did operate Omnilinks previously, and this certain guy did state that it was 1883 showing 128 at 7:12am on Friday. Unless he was very much mistaken! ;D
Of course, a certain 'someone' over there then suggested that (following also the transfer of 1908 to PE) Walsall are giving away singlde deckers... I bit my tongue so hard, it bled. :P
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2012, 08:42:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote682 on the 128
Bet that was a fun journey for anyone on board! ;D
Someone on the NXWM Facebook page claims they saw a Walsall Omnilink on the 128 one morning last week, WB must be short of buses or something!
I don't think so, if Walsall were to loan WB a bus it would be a B6 or Gemini to make sure drivers could actually drive it, remember Walsall are having to borrow Omnilinks in at the moment!
Don't worry, I found it hard to believe myself, but WB did operate Omnilinks previously, and this certain guy did state that it was 1883 showing 128 at 7:12am on Friday. Unless he was very much mistaken! ;D
Of course, a certain 'someone' over there then suggested that (following also the transfer of 1908 to PE) Walsall are giving away singlde deckers... I bit my tongue so hard, it bled. :P
7:12am! no, at that time it would be on the allocation sheets that come through to Miller Street
4046 on the 73 today. Quite exceptionally rare, considering there's only three of them left in the branding for the one! Looked very odd because Solihull is all NXWM livery now with the odd TWM's. No toothpaste livery!
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2012, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2012, 07:42:05 PM
Quote682 on the 128
Bet that was a fun journey for anyone on board! ;D
Someone on the NXWM Facebook page claims they saw a Walsall Omnilink on the 128 one morning last week, WB must be short of buses or something!
I don't think so, if Walsall were to loan WB a bus it would be a B6 or Gemini to make sure drivers could actually drive it, remember Walsall are having to borrow Omnilinks in at the moment!
This shows Walsall are in need of omnilinks as a b6le (fleet number 650) is working the 404 tonight rare as the 404 is normally omnilinks and the odd eclipse.
Its noe just me but 650 looks like its had the paintwork tarted up as well as in the interior floor, any reason for it
1813 out on the 900E
2118 out on the 5
4755 out on the 2
4760 out on the 3
B10L on the 69 in Wolves
4484 & 4497 - working 33 ] looks weird seeing these back on the 33 again
2288 - working 112
1537 - working 141
1521 - working 141
1642 -working 141
1661 - working 1 (wolves)
4001 - working 1 (Wolves)
2014 - working 25A
1426 - working 69
1755 - working 40
2078 - working X96
4800 - working X96
solo 281 was on wn route 6 yesterday afternoon!
Quote from: Ashley on July 02, 2012, 11:48:04 PM
Its noe just me but 650 looks like its had the paintwork tarted up as well as in the interior floor, any reason for it
Yes it has had a tidy up
Tony
There was a midland omnicity on the 9 service in bradford place today first time i have seen them used on the 9 as it has it's own branded mcv evolutions.
1430 on the 67 along with a TWM livered gemini
There is a third bus on the 9 which tends to use anything available - although we had both VDLs off today so the Scanias substituted.
Quote from: NathanJC on June 29, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 28, 2012, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on June 27, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Yesterday:
2096 - Branded with Mark Simon & working the 9 unusal
4718 - working 67 peak journey
1844 - May have been working 934/934A/33 as I spotted it comeing down the Kings Road displaying NOT IN SERVICE
4480 - Been Re-painted & was working in Sutton
ALX unsure of the Fleet Working 934/934A
4480 has been re-painted because I spotted it in Sutton working either the Sutton Lines or 907
My avatar on the left has been changed to a photo taken today of 4480 inside PB garage, definately not repainted!
Thanks Tony, is that because its being kept in service
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Thanks Tony, is that because its being kept in service
Probably just because there are PB Geminis more in need of a repaint which are taking priority. 4480 has had the blue touched up where the old 33 branding was along the bottom and is reasonably smart, compared the the one in service with three white panels along the lower nearside which must be due to go to Walsall soon, it looks a right mess!
Thanks again, 650 does look abit nicer now to be honest, and as its probably been confirmed on the forum, PB Geminis will get done one by one as they do need it
4480 was the ex-scorpio Gemini, and for some reason was fitted witha tree deflector, which half appears to be misisng!
1432 out on the 35
4167 out on the 957
4738 out on the 2
564 on 89 (wa) I pity the folk if its on a busy journey it use to happen to my wife took 2 hours one time to get home from bloxwich due to crap replacements 2 b6 volvos jam rammed gave up and used 529 and 301 and arriva were crap no 560 to be or going to sorry not in service as usual. 89 needs a competetor on it whom are better then arriva just to do bloxwich-wolves bit
Quote from: Discodave on July 04, 2012, 05:56:49 PM
564 on 89 (wa) I pity the folk if its on a busy journey it use to happen to my wife took 2 hours one time to get home from bloxwich due to crap replacements 2 b6 volvos jam rammed gave up and used 529 and 301 and arriva were crap no 560 to be or going to sorry not in service as usual. 89 needs a competetor on it whom are better then arriva just to do bloxwich-wolves bit
You're not normal are you? Every post you make complains about something or other.
The Wolves - bloxwich section of the 89 doesn't need any competition from other companies when enough routes augment the route in various sections
4716 broke down today on the 775 service heading back towards West Bromwich
3602 on the 429
6th July;
1775 - working 935
1777 - working 51
1833 - working 67
1792 - working 77
4479 - broke down at Lancaster Circus replaced with 1430
4483 - working 33
4494 - working 33
7th July;
Envrio400 working 94/66 unsure most likely 94
4494 - back on 33
1834 - working sutton lines
4697 - working 67
4475 - working 33
4482 - working 33
1893 - working 935
Quote from: NathanJC on July 05, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
6th July;
1775 - working 935
1777 - working 51
1833 - working 67
1792 - working 77
4479 - broke down at Lancaster Circus replaced with 1430
4483 - working 33
4494 - working 33
7th July;
Envrio400 working 94/66 unsure most likely 94
4494 - back on 33
1834 - working sutton lines
4697 - working 67
4475 - working 33
4482 - working 33
1893 - working 935
The Enviro 400 would have been on the 94. There has been one on there for the past few days.
Quote from: thetruth on July 05, 2012, 04:24:39 PM
Geminis on the 33 aren't unusual at the moment with the unbranded Enviro400s being prepared for a certain upcoming sporting event.
Perry Barr seemed to be making an effort to use the refurbished ones on there today, including fresh out 4475
Quote from: NathanJC on July 05, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
6th July;
1775 - working 935
1777 - working 51
1833 - working 67
1792 - working 77
4479 - broke down at Lancaster Circus replaced with 1430
4483 - working 33
4494 - working 33
7th July;
Envrio400 working 94/66 unsure most likely 94
4494 - back on 33
1834 - working sutton lines
4697 - working 67
4475 - working 33
4482 - working 33
1893 - working 935
Are you quite sure of the dates of these workings, seems to be from the future.
Quote from: Lukeee on July 05, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 05, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
6th July;
1775 - working 935
1777 - working 51
1833 - working 67
1792 - working 77
4479 - broke down at Lancaster Circus replaced with 1430
4483 - working 33
4494 - working 33
7th July;
Envrio400 working 94/66 unsure most likely 94
4494 - back on 33
1834 - working sutton lines
4697 - working 67
4475 - working 33
4482 - working 33
1893 - working 935
Are you quite sure of the dates of these workings, seems to be from the future.
Mystic Nathan! 8)
Quote from: Stu on July 05, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on July 05, 2012, 07:46:12 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 05, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
6th July;
1775 - working 935
1777 - working 51
1833 - working 67
1792 - working 77
4479 - broke down at Lancaster Circus replaced with 1430
4483 - working 33
4494 - working 33
7th July;
Envrio400 working 94/66 unsure most likely 94
4494 - back on 33
1834 - working sutton lines
4697 - working 67
4475 - working 33
4482 - working 33
1893 - working 935
Are you quite sure of the dates of these workings, seems to be from the future.
Mystic Nathan! 8)
I know all of the '7th July' actually happened today, so presume the others are yesterday
Or they're saturdays workings somehow leaked onto this forum lol
2070 on Wolves 1, first time I've seen a new B7 on the 1
2006 and 206x were on the 11 yesterday, 2075 was on the 126E
Quote from: Ashley on July 05, 2012, 11:03:12 PM
2075 was on the 126E
So B7's on the 1 and 126, something I have never seen before, WN apparent Trident shortage seems to rumble on, have a few more gone in for refurb, broken down that anyone knows of?
Quote from: wilmotm on July 06, 2012, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: Ashley on July 05, 2012, 11:03:12 PM
2075 was on the 126E
So B7's on the 1 and 126, something I have never seen before, WN apparent Trident shortage seems to rumble on, have a few more gone in for refurb, broken down that anyone knows of?
about time some of the WN tridents were refurbed the paintwork was looking shabby on some of the 46** tridents
Back in may i saw 2001 on the tettnall road on the 1. I haven't ever seen a B7RLE on the 126/126E. I have seen them on the 1,2,3,4,5,5A,6,6A,10,11,25,25A,27,529,32,33,59,79,255.
The 46** tridents at WN will probably at the bottom of list for refurb. Probably the ex 79 green branded ones 453*-4547 as they look quite shabby.
Quote from: Ashley on July 05, 2012, 11:03:12 PM
2006 and 206x were on the 11 yesterday, 2075 was on the 126E
Not unusual to see a B7RLE on the 11.
Quote from: NathanJC on July 03, 2012, 04:12:19 PM
4484 & 4497 - working 33 ] looks weird seeing these back on the 33 again
2288 - working 112
1537 - working 141
1521 - working 141
1642 -working 141
1661 - working 1 (wolves)
4001 - working 1 (Wolves)
2014 - working 25A
1426 - working 69
1755 - working 40
2078 - working X96
4800 - working X96
Spectras on the 1 is common and now some of the B6LE have gone it actually looks like B10L are the main allocation for the 69 as well as a B7RLE and B7RLE on the 25/25A are becoming more common.
Mon:
Trident 4589 on Route 25/25A.
Yesterday:
Excel 711 on route 59.
Looking at the blinds at the back it had come off a school route and gone onto the 59
diamond swift 226 branded 30454 on the 404E
NXWM
4298 on the 450
3605 on the 405
3607 on the 447
1797 on the 404
1795 - working 935
1896 - working 935
1460 - working 67
4780 was on the 67 yesterday which i guess is a rare working monday-saturday
Didn't catch the fleetnumber, but there was an Urban 2 on the 5 this morning, first time I've seen one of AGs new B7RLEs on that route.
Must be missing Geminis, as there was an Omnilink on there also I saw this evening.
Ironically, the last couple of days, there's been a few Geminis on the 37, don't normally see those on there now!
Dave Gerrard b7rle on 9 this afternoon
Quote from: Stu on July 06, 2012, 07:27:57 PM
Didn't catch the fleetnumber, but there was an Urban 2 on the 5 this morning, first time I've seen one of AGs new B7RLEs on that route.
Must be missing Geminis, as there was an Omnilink on there also I saw this evening.
Ironically, the last couple of days, there's been a few Geminis on the 37, don't normally see those on there now!
Couple of Eclipses on the 37 today. 2106 being one of them, with a couple of Omnilinks on the 70s.
I've seen the increased Geminis as well.
codsall clipper branded 2061 on no.2 service!!
1462, 1463, 1465, 1480 (evening peak) and another B10L all on the 7 route today
Quote from: Lukeee on July 06, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
1462, 1463, 1465, 1480 (evening peak) and another B10L all on the 7 route today
Very unusual to have that amount of B10L's on the 7. I'm guessing all covering for Gemini's that are back out on the 33, with the Enviro's going to the Olympics.
That would seem to be the case, however, its normally 1 or 2 B10Ls on the 7 (instead of 5).
Whats the usual allocation for the 7?
6th July
4084 (plus another President and 4298) - 450
674 - 127
1743 - 241
1621 - 120
4760 - 49 plus an Enviro on the 76 and another on the 49
4375 - 6
1691 plus another Merc - 55
4168/4175 (route 14 branded) - 90
2 AG B7RLEs - 11A one was 2102 I think
674 was parked up in West brom bus station at around 1pm must have worked the 127 later on as it was not in service when i saw it
1454 (i think it was) was out on the x51 this evening peak!!
Today:
Spectra 4004 on the 529
Omnilink 1888 on route 70A
B7RLE 1781 on route 70A
omnilink 1796 on route 77
Omnilink 1898 on route 89
B10L 7127 on route 89.
There was a trident on the 69 today aswell along with a B7RLE. I haven't seen Double deckers on the 69 for ages and it is a bit unusual to see a B7RLE on a saturday on the 69.
4043 operating on the 31/31A today.
Although Presidents are the usual allocation on these routes, its unusual to see a toothpaste 1-branded bus on anything but the 1 now, seeing as there's only three left (4043, 4046 and 4111, now 4112 is in for repaint!).
Spectra 4015 on the 126
OmniLink 1888 on 70A
OmniLink 1796 on 77
Blue Diamond 37 branded Dart and 17 Branded Dart both on 119.
Quote from: John-s-91 on July 07, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
Spectra 4015 on the 126
OmniLink 1888 on 70A
OmniLink 1796 on 77
Blue Diamond 37 branded Dart and 17 Branded Dart both on 119.
I've just realised that most of these have already been mentioned, but another one is Trident 4130 is on the 301.
And another one!
1845 on the 33.
2063 was on the 256/257 this afternoon having replaced Trident 4310 on that duty. 4310 was seen being towed back to Park Lane along the Penn Road at about half past one, while 2063 operated the 1.35 256 from Wolverhampton.
4005 on the 27, never ever seen that Decker operated before, WN are going through a bit of a funny patch that's for sure
Quote from: Roy on July 07, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
2063 was on the 256/257 this afternoon having replaced Trident 4310 on that duty. 4310 was seen being towed back to Park Lane along the Penn Road at about half past one, while 2063 operated the 1.35 256 from Wolverhampton.
You mean this?
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Roy on July 07, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
2063 was on the 256/257 this afternoon having replaced Trident 4310 on that duty. 4310 was seen being towed back to Park Lane along the Penn Road at about half past one, while 2063 operated the 1.35 256 from Wolverhampton.
You mean this?
Yes, that's the one!
There was a scania omnilink in NXWM livery on the 935 today and a leather omnilink on the 66.
Quote from: Ash on July 07, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
There was a scania omnilink in NXWM livery on the 935 today and a leather omnilink on the 66.
The 935 should have a lot of Omnilinks on for the next few weeks. I saw 5 different ones on on Thursday including 3 ex BC 17xx
Yeah i was expecting the omnilinks to be used on the 935, thought may be a few tridents might have been allocated to the service as the omnilink i saw today heading into Birmingham was rammed full. Also this may be me not seeing them but havent saw any leather enviro 400's on the X51 for a while now i know some of the gemini's are branded but tridents have been appearing as the extra's peak time workings and i guess not all the leather enviro's are needed for the 997/E and aswell as this the NXWM website provides some slightly in-accurate information about being quality leather seats on the X51
Heres the link for the article
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/new-frequency-in-the-peak-for-the-x51
Quote from: Ashley on July 06, 2012, 11:14:23 PM
Whats the usual allocation for the 7?
A mix of B7 ALX400s and Gemini's with the odd single deck (usually peaks only).
yesterday:
B7RLE 2067 on Route 59.
In the car saw an Scania single on the 904 in Erdington today is that relevant? 1841
1841 - 904
2137 - 29 (again)
4138 - 40
1753 - 301
1790 on the 404
1788 out on the 935
Scania Omnicity on the 94 couldn't get the Fleet Number
1480 on the 65
4282 on the 67
b6le 681 on the 405, this is rare now as this bus is normally on the 428/9 and the 405/6 uses near enough the same b6le and mercs each day with the return branding on so usually sees (519/533/595/674/680/1589/92/1617-9).
1896 on the 89 in Wolves
4762 on 49 .
Quote from: Ashley on July 08, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
1841 - 904
2137 - 29 (again)
4138 - 40
1753 - 301
Tridents on the 40 are the main allocation so that isn't rare.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 09, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 08, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
1841 - 904
2137 - 29 (again)
4138 - 40
1753 - 301
Tridents on the 40 are the main allocation so that isn't rare.
And likewise the B7RLEs are the main allocation on the 29, having replaced the Omnilinks there.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 09, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 08, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
1841 - 904
2137 - 29 (again)
4138 - 40
1753 - 301
Tridents on the 40 are the main allocation so that isn't rare.
Although in the weekday Tridents are usually allocated to some boards, it is usually single deck operated on a Sunday, up until very recently by B6's.
Recently on weekdays, the 40/41 is a right mish-mash of buses, and I have no idea what will turn up. It is usually a mix of B10Ls, Tridents & B7RLEs, however it is not that uncommon to see a Gem or OmniLink on there!
2102 on the S1. Seems a waste of mileage on a new bus. I'd like to see them win the 36 & 40 contracts, to see a return of Midibuses, even if it's some of the better B6LEs, and then see them work the S1.
Also was a Eclipse2 on the 5, seen in Solihull on a short working to Sparkhill, whilst an Outer Circle Gemini came off the 1 at 1530 and changed into a 37 from Acocks Green to Solihull.
650 was on the 302 today
Quote from: notepanel on July 09, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 09, 2012, 05:56:35 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 08, 2012, 09:44:34 PM
1841 - 904
2137 - 29 (again)
4138 - 40
1753 - 301
Tridents on the 40 are the main allocation so that isn't rare.
Although in the weekday Tridents are usually allocated to some boards, it is usually single deck operated on a Sunday, up until very recently by B6's.
Recently on weekdays, the 40/41 is a right mish-mash of buses, and I have no idea what will turn up. It is usually a mix of B10Ls, Tridents & B7RLEs, however it is not that uncommon to see a Gem or OmniLink on there!
Sorry i forgot the fact it was on a sunday. Yes it is unusual to see a trident on the 40 on a sunday.
2079 on the 276
1423 out on the 16
1751 out on the 935A
1786 out on the 935
1815 out on the 900E
1833 out on the 7
1893/1895/1896/1899 out on the 935
4780 out on the 67
1815 on 900
4761 on 6
4741 on 6
4046 (Branded 1) on 73
9th July;
4780 - working 94
11th July
4200- working 59 (haven't saw these on the 59 for a long time)
1439 - working 77
3 Blue Diamond Solos working 53
12th July
1904 - working 935
4750 - broke down in Birmingham
Central Buses Enviros in Driver Training around Kingstanding & Sutton
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
Today;
1671 on route 59
4581 on route 59 (126 branded bus)
Another O405N (think it was 1692 was going into service on the 59)
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
Never saw a oresident on 71, have on the 72 before ;D
Quote from: settlerman on July 10, 2012, 03:24:06 PM
1815 on 900
Are Omnilinks 1813-1817 being retained by BC to act as cover for the Tridents undergoing the refurbishment program?
Quote from: NathanJC on July 10, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
Never saw a oresident on 71, have on the 72 before ;D
Had to look twice myself. Thought it was a 73 a first.
Quote from: Rob H on July 10, 2012, 11:05:59 AM
1423 out on the 16
1751 out on the 935A
1786 out on the 935
1815 out on the 900E
1833 out on the 7
1893/1895/1896/1899 out on the 935
4780 out on the 67
Bet there were some unusual workings on the 301/311/313 with all these NXWM livery omnilinks on the 935.
1470 on the 65, the liberators seem to be the main allocation on the 65 as the gemini's are covering for the enviro 400 that are at the olympics on the 33 service
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 10, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
Never saw a oresident on 71, have on the 72 before ;D
Had to look twice myself. Thought it was a 73 a first.
At Least It would give a chance for more passangers to gain a seat when it works the 72 in the Peak Evenings 8)
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
What time did you see this? And which one was it?
As I believe that BC operate a morning college service, often with a Trident or President, towards Solihull, from Castle Bromwich.
Quote from: Stu on July 10, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
What time did you see this? And which one was it?
As I believe that BC operate a morning college service, often with a Trident or President, towards Solihull, from Castle Bromwich.
I've got on both workings some mornings to go into Solihull and both workings always starts in my area Sheldon because they're always empty when I get on either of them :)
Quote from: Stu on July 10, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: neale95 on July 10, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
President on the 71 heading towards solihull
What time did you see this? And which one was it?
As I believe that BC operate a morning college service, often with a Trident or President, towards Solihull, from Castle Bromwich.
it was around 15:45 on Lode Lane by Rowood Drive. Im not to sure which bus it was as i was on the 73 towards Sheldon
1459 is on the 935 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7549174438/in/photostream/
1940 on the 1.
714 on route 2
715 on route 6
1672 on route 3
All these usually are operated by B7RLE
1468 - working 907
4859 - working X51
4128 - Working X51
1796 - Working 935
1788 - working 997
4129 - working 935
4763 - working 935
1459 - working 935
Branded 37 daytime return working 71/72
4 breakdowns
3 nxwm one being 4490 in Sutton Coldfield
1 blue Diamond working 119
Quote from: NathanJC on July 11, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
4128 - Working X51
I wish they would sort the back of 4128 out. It's been going around for at least 9 months now with just the top part of the mega-rear on. It was originally for Astle Outlet Park, but now only states 60% off.
Another blue diamond broken down? Is that unusual?
Quote from: Discodave on July 12, 2012, 11:13:32 AM
Another blue diamond broken down? Is that unusual?
A majority Of Blue Diamond Buses have broken down in the last few days ;D
Branded 37 blue Diamond working 97/97A
4357 on 84
4747 on the 6.
1796 plus a B10L on the 311/313 today
At least 2 Enviro's, including 1 50 branded one and 2 Trident's on the 6. Must be because at least 3 OmniLink's were on the 27.
1816 on 59
2099 and 2 OmniLink's on the 5.
4098 and 4510 both on the 89 instead of 0405N's.
Quote from: John-s-91 on July 12, 2012, 06:39:37 PM
At least 2 Enviro's, including 1 50 branded one and 2 Trident's on the 6. Must be because at least 3 OmniLink's were on the 27.
1816 on 59
2099 and 2 OmniLink's on the 5.
4098 and 4510 both on the 89 instead of 0405N's.
I think double deckers will become more common on the 89 with all the branded buses except 1526/9 being witdrawn from service.
4425 was on the 23
I think all Birmingham bound services (unless the route dictates otherwise) should have a decker on just to cater for the large urban area it is most are busy anyway even with parts of routes being served by numerous services of the same company eg walsall road/bristol road
1905 - working 67
30135 - working 16
AG B7RLE - WORKING 5
Quote from: notepanel on July 11, 2012, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 11, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
4128 - Working X51
I wish they would sort the back of 4128 out. It's been going around for at least 9 months now with just the top part of the mega-rear on. It was originally for Astle Outlet Park, but now only states 60% off.
Seen 4128 today and it has seen better days.
Trident 4320 on route 32 in wolverhampton
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 13, 2012, 05:29:40 PM
Trident 4320 on route 32 in wolverhampton
I thought Tridents were the allocation anyway?
No the allocation for the 32/33 is Mercedes Benz 0405N and Optare Spectra. I made a typing error 4320 was on the 33 not the 32
4090 on the 410
519 on the 444
1773 on the 404
There was a gemini on the 406 aswell didnt catch the fleetnumber but was in NXWM livery
4546 on the 2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7569546624
4529 on the 448B, as well as 4269 (is this still unusual anymore?)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7569559582
All of the 447/449/450's I saw were on President's, ALX400's and Gemini's.
Quote from: John-s-91 on July 14, 2012, 08:06:39 PM
4546 on the 2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7569546624
4529 on the 448B, as well as 4269 (is this still unusual anymore?)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7569559582
All of the 447/449/450's I saw were on President's, ALX400's and Gemini's.
244 on the 336 I think its unsual to see this bus in normal passenger service.
It's not unusual to see any double deckers being used on most of the town services around West Bromwich as services like the 405/406/447 used to see b6le's but there not enough of them to go round now so double deckers are used to fill in and are becoming a regular occurance but are most services there no need for them the mercs do the job in terms of capacity
I would say that the Double Deckers shoud be used on 448/448A/448B/451/449/74/75 then isnt there enough mercs to cover the rest of the routes such as 450/444/447 etc, becuase I think doubles would be wasted on them routes.
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14th July 2012;
Branded Connect 97 working 53
1521 - working 140/241
1793 - apperead on the 311
1761 - working 404/404A
4561 - Being Towed back to Wolverhampton Garage due to a breakdown working 126
4735 - working 7 (PB)
1906 - Working 907
4282 - working 934
Today (Sunday 15th July):
Volvo B7RLE 2062 on route 11/32/33
Trident 4384 on route 11/32/33
Volvo B7RLE can be common on the 11 on Mon-Sat but this is sunday so this is unusual.
B7RLE on the 32/33 are rare at anytime
Tridents on the 11/32/33 are unusual.
The allocation in the week for the 11/32/33 is Spectras,O405N and sometimes excels with a optare solo on the 11.
On a sunday the allocation for the 11/32/33 is O405N.
The 11/32/33 interwork on sundays.
1814 on the 957
2115 on the 5
4441 on the 14E
4474 on the 24
4738 on the 6
4742 on the 2
4757 on the 3E
4762 on the 6
1 other Enviro on the 2 couldn't get the fleet number
1 Hybrid Versa on the 16 couldn't get the fleet number
4133 - working 51
Connect 17 working 123
Enviro 400 - Working service 2 (B'Ham - Maypole)
There were 3 Spectras on the 59 today which is more than usual.
I saw Spectra 4001 in service 2 stand(M). There were passengers getting on it and it wasn't displaying anything on the destination screen. So i don't know if it was on the 2 or not. It could of been on the 255 as the 81 was in Stand L. Can Anyone help me with this?
There was 2 B7RLE on the 69 today instead of 1. One was 1777 and can't remember the Fleet number of the other.
244 on the 34/38
1796 on the 404
4509 on the 450 along with 4275
4503 on the 406
and quite a few geminis and presidents on the 447/8/9
244 is on the 70 or 70A today
A Scania is on the 40/41
A Scania is on the 302
A B6 and a B10 are on the 301
Also an X31 branded vehicle was out on the 1 today
4742 on the 49
4810 on the 120
Quote from: notepanel on July 17, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
244 is on the 70 or 70A today
A Scania is on the 40/41
A Scania is on the 302
A B6 and a B10 are on the 301
Also an X31 branded vehicle was out on the 1 today
also to add a 74/5 branded daf on the 2 usual crap allocating by arriva cannock as i have said numerous times if your going to brand a bus make sure you have enough and spares to cover it otherwise dont bother. This is a pet hate of mine all buses should be non branded so can be used anywhere as it looks stupid NXWM are a lot better they have branded but use them correctly most of the time plus remove it when the buses are moved to other routes, diamond are another company whom are as bad as arriva, and finally branding does more damage than good as when it is removed the bus paintwork looks awful and its needs re painting so a waste of money having a new bus when in say 12 months it needs re painting
2099 & another b7 working 37
4523 - working 89
4737 - working 67
Today in Colmore Row about 5.30 / 5.40 2086 on the 9E Halesown followed a few minutes later by 1657 on the full 9.
1702 (8A/C Branded) on the 17
1801 on the 8E
1951 on the 1
4669 on the 1 early this morning
4748/4761 on the 6
2701 and 2702 on 2 to cannock its unusal as they are the correctly allocated buses for the route
On the 40/41 today there is a leather Enviro and a Prem Gem, in addition to the usual B10Ls and B7s.
The 6 & 37 are slowly converting to double deck from what I can see. YW Scanias have appeared on the 2/3 a lot I've noticed too. I wonder if it's time for the 2/3 to convert to single deck for the millionth time!
The 2/3/6 could probably work with a mix of both double deckers and single deckers
677 now at BC working the 636 with full blinds
An on loan Scania is on the 40/41 today, whilst Trident 4128 is out on 301s.
Quote from: Ashley on July 18, 2012, 11:43:22 PM
The 2/3/6 could probably work with a mix of both double deckers and single deckers
Over the last couple of weeks it has become harder to define unusual workings on some of YW's routes because they are mixed up on most days.
You have a Trident on the 84
Omnilinks on 27,35,2, & 3.
Enviros on 6, 18, & 49.
4717 - working 451
1761 - working 935
1541 - working 120
1470 - working 94
3729 - branded 74/75 (cannock chase) - working X31
30132 - working 16
Today:
Merc 1673 on route 59 although displaying 559 on the front for some reason.
Trident 4598 on route 25/25A
Both 4604 and 1673 broke down in heath town on the 59
286 on the 16
At least 4 new B7's on the 37
4636 was out on the 37 this morning :)
Quote from: Rob H on July 19, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
4636 was out on the 37 this morning :)
Along with 4650, looking quite immaculate with it's new wheels, but appauling with it's new panel covering half of the NX stripes.
Got it on the 37E from Solihull to Acocks Green at around 19:15
1939/1943 on the 5
1 37 Omnilink on the 71/72 couldn't get the fleet number
4043/4046 on the 73
4762 on the 6
Seen the two branded Presidents on the 73 too.
Also seen 4644 arriving in Solihull Town at 1549 working the 71, yes 71!
This is a super rare working 1459 was on the 80, never seen a liberator on a WB service, were the drivers at WB ever type trained for these buses
There are at least 3 PB Omnilinks on the 17 tonight as well!
7021 - 907
4242 - 915
Daimond Versa on the 301
244 - 7
A B10L on the 302
1974 - 301
1796 - 70A
4682 - 8/89
A Trident on the 82
4552 - 59
Arriva Solo on the 560
Scania L113 - 70
74/75 branded pulsar in Walsall
1448 on the 67
1458 on the 80
1480 on the 28
1906 on the 28
diamond solo on the 50
2084 on the 222
Quote from: Ashley on July 20, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
7021 - 907
4242 - 915
Daimond Versa on the 301
244 - 7
A B10L on the 302
1974 - 301
1796 - 70A
4682 - 8/89
A Trident on the 82
4552 - 59
Arriva Solo on the 560
Scania L113 - 70
74/75 branded pulsar in Walsall
What is unusual about 4552 on the 59? Trident is the main allocation. I know this as it is my local route and i use it every day but there were two spectras on the 59 today
I only included it because I rarely see anything other than the Tridents with fare stickers fro the 59, on the 59, plus more recently Spectras
I i see where you are coming from now. The allocation is tridents so you can other tridents alongside the yellow £2.70 return tridents. Yesterday 4327 was on the 59
Quote from: Ashley on July 20, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
I only included it because I rarely see anything other than the Tridents with fare stickers fro the 59, on the 59, plus more recently Spectras
Ashley, Do you know when the permanant 2013 is coming into service. I have seen a photo of it in the garage today.
Quote from: Ashley on July 20, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
7021 - 907
4242 - 915
Daimond Versa on the 301
244 - 7
A B10L on the 302
1974 - 301
1796 - 70A
4682 - 8/89
A Trident on the 82
4552 - 59
Arriva Solo on the 560
Scania L113 - 70
74/75 branded pulsar in Walsall
4682 was probably covering for one of the 2 tridents on the 8/89.
658 (WA) was on the 410 (WB) today is it a transffer or on loan to (WB).
I would say transfer as a few b6le's have transferred in from Walsall recently. This suprises me as WB seemed to have got rid of most of their b6le's to now recieve more b6le's from other garages also with a liberator being used WB must have either had a day which they were short on buses for some reason or just short of buses generally or had some kind of mass withdrawal of the mercs.
1677 also on the 128 today another loaned bus?
Quote from: Ash on July 20, 2012, 11:01:08 PM
I would say transfer as a few b6le's have transferred in from Walsall recently. This suprises me as WB seemed to have got rid of most of their b6le's to now recieve more b6le's from other garages also with a liberator being used WB must have either had a day which they were short on buses for some reason or just short of buses generally or had some kind of mass withdrawal of the mercs.
1677 also on the 128 today another loaned bus?
Must be loaned as 1677 is a WN based bus
Ash,
Most of the B6LE's that WB have received from WA are refurbished ones, and they have replaced non re-furbised examples
Quote from: Ash on July 20, 2012, 11:01:08 PM
I would say transfer as a few b6le's have transferred in from Walsall recently. This suprises me as WB seemed to have got rid of most of their b6le's to now recieve more b6le's from other garages also with a liberator being used WB must have either had a day which they were short on buses for some reason or just short of buses generally or had some kind of mass withdrawal of the mercs.
1677 also on the 128 today another loaned bus?
Today:
Excel 687 on route 62
B7RLE 2027 on route 25
4126 on route 70A
2135 on the 61
30130 on the 16.
31481 on the 50.
20539 on the 50.
30825 on the 37 so must be on loan to Blue Diamond. That's why I haven't seen it for a while. Also does anyone know if 30801 has been repaired and seen it.
4715 on 410
3612 on 405/6
Quote from: Mike360 on July 21, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
30825 on the 37 so must be on loan to Blue Diamond. That's why I haven't seen it for a while. Also does anyone know if 30801 has been repaired and seen it.
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Ive been on the 50 a lot recently and havent seen it unfortunately as these are good fast buses. Hope itll be back soon. If its being repaired itll be at vplant or preston
Yesterday
Enviro 400 - 49
President - 14
2114 - 37
06 reg Gemini - 127 or 128
1935 - 5
Today (Sunday 22nd july)
Omnilink 1788 (Toothpaste Livery) on route 89
B7RLE (Fleet Number 2002) on a very rare working on Route 256.
Usually Mercs on the 255/256 on sundays
Quote from: Ashley on July 22, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
Usually Mercs on the 255/256 on sundays
I know thats why it is so rare. But i haven't seen a B7RLE on the 256 ever.
Most unusual working I noticed today was 7030 on the 7
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/7030.html
It isn't really that pink, rushed photograph and camera was set wrong!
Quote from: thetruth on July 22, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
First one I've seen which has its Dundee fleet number still on the front
All of 7028-7033 still have them. Makes them stand out!
Quote from: thetruth on July 22, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
First one I've seen which has its Dundee fleet number still on the front
All the last batch to come down (7028+) have had them left on
Quote from: John-s-91 on July 22, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: thetruth on July 22, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
First one I've seen which has its Dundee fleet number still on the front
All of 7028-7033 still have them. Makes them stand out!
same reply, timed at exactly the same second!
1686 was on the 405 today either onloan or transferred to WB from BY
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