I'm sure most of you on here are aware of the bustimes website with the map showing many vehicles all over the UK....
The West Midlands bit is here https://bustimes.org/vehicles#11/52.5194/-1.9054
My question is, with NXWM having been showing some routes in Wolverhampton, Coventry and a couple of Walsall/Perry Barr routes (plus Dundee is on too), is there any chance the rest of the fleet will appear at some point?
Cheers
Apparently next month all buses across the UK will have to track! Is this true?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 16, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
Apparently next month all buses across the UK will have to track! Is this true?
Where did you hear that? Why would buses have to track?
Quote from: Pat on December 16, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Where did you hear that? Why would buses have to track?
This may be what he is referring to this.. https://twitter.com/busopendata/status/1285498366596710400
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 16, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
Apparently next month all buses across the UK will have to track! Is this true?
Quote from: Pat on December 16, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Where did you hear that? Why would buses have to track?
From the now defunct Traveline South East website:
QuoteThe Bus Services Act of 2017 means that, by the end of 2020, it will be the bus operators' responsibility to make available timetable, fares and real-time location data. The Government expects "the market" (bus operators and internet information providers) to use the latest technological developments to give travel planning information to the travelling public.
I don't think it is the case that 'all buses across the UK will
have to track' from any legal standpoint, but operators are expected to be able to offer this capability via data feeds into open APIs for third-parties to be able to utilise.
Quote from: Stu on December 16, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
From the now defunct Traveline South East website:
I don't think it is the case that 'all buses across the UK will have to track' from any legal standpoint, but operators are expected to be able to offer this capability via data feeds into open APIs for third-parties to be able to utilise.
which won't include fleetnumbers
Quote from: Stu on December 16, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
From the now defunct Traveline South East website:
I don't think it is the case that 'all buses across the UK will have to track' from any legal standpoint, but operators are expected to be able to offer this capability via data feeds into open APIs for third-parties to be able to utilise.
So operators have to publish their own timetable info etc themselves, basically what Traveline did?
Quote from: Pat on December 16, 2020, 08:53:58 PM
So operators have to publish their own timetable info etc themselves, basically what Traveline did?
Not at all. They just have to supply open data
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2020, 08:41:23 PM
which won't include fleetnumbers
To be honest, that detail is only relevant for enthusiasts. For the vast majority of users it *could* finally provide a useful replacement to the maps that most local authorities seem to have deemed unnecessary
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2020, 09:15:08 PM
Not at all. They just have to supply open data
Tony is right, operators are only providing data, the onus is on web developers to create apps such as bustimes and the London Vehicle Finder, who chose to have the unenviable task of presenting the data in way that they feel meets users needs.
On Bustimes each vehicle gains an alias when it is tracked for the first time, some NX Coventry electric buses were tracked for the first time in October gaining numbers around 250,000, meaning more than a quarter of a million buses have been tracked, no small achievement!
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2020, 08:41:23 PM
which won't include fleetnumbers
As per the Public Service Vehicles (Open Data) (England) Regulations 2020 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/749/regulation/13/made),
the vehicle identifier will need to be provided - whether this is a fleet number or not is a different story.
However, if NXWM, or any other operator chooses to anonymise this, I know bustimes does allow for edits so that the correct fleet number shows on the site. An example of this would be East Coast Buses B8RLE vehicles which show as 3051-3065 in the TfE data feed but are actually 10051-10065 in reality (and show as this on bustimes).
I'm not sure what the benefit in anonymising or not providing fleet numbers is though, especially as (almost? I've not checked) every other operator who provides AVL location data to the BODS provides them. It's not as if it's commercially-sensitive information either given that the fleet number is visible on every bus in multiple locations.
It may actually come to the surprise of some that bustimes is not primarily focused at enthusiasts - but "ordinary" bus users have found it useful to know which bus to expect, its livery, whether it's a double decker, etc.
Quote from: ross4122 on December 21, 2020, 11:46:58 PM
As per the Public Service Vehicles (Open Data) (England) Regulations 2020 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/749/regulation/13/made), the vehicle identifier will need to be provided - whether this is a fleet number or not is a different story.
However, if NXWM, or any other operator chooses to anonymise this, I know bustimes does allow for edits so that the correct fleet number shows on the site. An example of this would be East Coast Buses B8RLE vehicles which show as 3051-3065 in the TfE data feed but are actually 10051-10065 in reality (and show as this on bustimes).
I'm not sure what the benefit in anonymising or not providing fleet numbers is though, especially as (almost? I've not checked) every other operator who provides AVL location data to the BODS provides them. It's not as if it's commercially-sensitive information either given that the fleet number is visible on every bus in multiple locations.
It may actually come to the surprise of some that bustimes is not primarily focused at enthusiasts - but "ordinary" bus users have found it useful to know which bus to expect, its livery, whether it's a double decker, etc.
I would imagine the East Coast buses thing is because one of their internal systems cannot deal with 5 digit numbers
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2020, 08:58:39 AM
I would imagine the East Coast buses thing is because one of their internal systems cannot deal with 5 digit numbers
I think that's correct - it's something along those lines anyway!
Quote from: ross4122 on December 22, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
I think that's correct - it's something along those lines anyway!
All Lothian/East Coast bus tickets show six digit Bus number eg 010063.
The well established Lothian App has always shown the bus number as a maximum of a four figure number for East Coast buses, North Berwick Gemini 20001 is 2001 on the App but bus times shows five figure 20001. Recently reinstated 2942 is shown as 942 on App and Bustimes, there's no logic! Its a nice to have but I use Bustimes to easily access timetables.
The future of "selling" buses has to involve open data on Apps such as Google Maps, however the use of meaningless destinations such as Kirby Corner Interchange that are little help to someone unfamiliar with buses in Coventry trying to get to Warwick University should be more of a concern.
Open Data what could be simpler, however it was implemented when Chris Grayling headed the transport department!
The following is on LVFs facebook page.
"Well it seems that regrettably the work we are currently undertaking has been made public. I'm annoyed at the way this has occurred as it was so unnecessary and we would like to have made more progress before going public.
I would have to stress that we are still at a very early stage and apart from vehicle data and the fact that it shows vehicles and the routes they are on there is nothing else. The data only updates every 10 mins so not exactly useful at the moment.
To give a bit of background, the DfT is implementing a system to provide real time tracking of all public service vehicles on registered bus routes in England. It is not due to go live until January 2021 however we have become an early adopter of data. Currently there are over 7.700 vehicles that have been identified. This is probably about a half of the total we might expect. We have identified a number of problems with the feed, the most critical of which is that most of the data stops working at 5pm each evening and restarts at 7am.... The biggest problem for us is that the real time data does no more than identify the vehicle, the time and a location in Latitude/Longitude coordinates. No next stop, no predictions etc. The data is wonderful if you are going to plot vehicles on a map eg bustimes.org, but not very helpful if you want a service that looks like LVF. To transition from what we have to what we want means we need to hold timetable and route info. We haven't even started importing that data. Not only does it need to be imported for every route in England but we need to create a process that updates the information whenever there is a route or timetable change.
At this early stage we still need to QA a lot of the data we have, and we still have a large amount of work to do before we can present a working system. We would ask you all show a large amount of patience. The last thing we need at the moment is queries regarding any data you may see which would only distract us from achieving the end goal. There will be a period shortly after the initial release of the new system where we will encourage feedback especially of branding/advert buses and other special liveries."
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 22, 2020, 11:18:13 PM
The following is on LVFs facebook page.
"Well it seems that regrettably the work we are currently undertaking has been made public. I'm annoyed at the way this has occurred as it was so unnecessary and we would like to have made more progress before going public.
I would have to stress that we are still at a very early stage and apart from vehicle data and the fact that it shows vehicles and the routes they are on there is nothing else. The data only updates every 10 mins so not exactly useful at the moment.
To give a bit of background, the DfT is implementing a system to provide real time tracking of all public service vehicles on registered bus routes in England. It is not due to go live until January 2021 however we have become an early adopter of data. Currently there are over 7.700 vehicles that have been identified. This is probably about a half of the total we might expect. We have identified a number of problems with the feed, the most critical of which is that most of the data stops working at 5pm each evening and restarts at 7am.... The biggest problem for us is that the real time data does no more than identify the vehicle, the time and a location in Latitude/Longitude coordinates. No next stop, no predictions etc. The data is wonderful if you are going to plot vehicles on a map eg bustimes.org, but not very helpful if you want a service that looks like LVF. To transition from what we have to what we want means we need to hold timetable and route info. We haven't even started importing that data. Not only does it need to be imported for every route in England but we need to create a process that updates the information whenever there is a route or timetable change.
At this early stage we still need to QA a lot of the data we have, and we still have a large amount of work to do before we can present a working system. We would ask you all show a large amount of patience. The last thing we need at the moment is queries regarding any data you may see which would only distract us from achieving the end goal. There will be a period shortly after the initial release of the new system where we will encourage feedback especially of branding/advert buses and other special liveries."
A lengthy update has just been published on Regional Vehicle Finder Facebook page, stating have data from all large groups except National Express West Midlands!
All NX buses are tracking on bustimes.org
Perry Barr's buses are currently tracking under Metroline Travel and hopefully be running under NX tomorrow They're currently all white for the time being. DEAD runs can also be tracked. Some routes won't always show up so you may have to guess what is on what.
Quote from: Bus Spotter Ben on February 18, 2021, 12:59:21 PM
All NX buses are tracking on bustimes.org
Perry Barr's buses are currently tracking under Metroline Travel and hopefully be running under NX tomorrow They're currently all white for the time being. DEAD runs can also be tracked. Some routes won't always show up so you may have to guess what is on what.
The Perry Barr issue has now been fixed. All buses are in their respective liveries
How come the X20/X21/X22's track as going round the island at Five Ways instead of going through the bus gate on George Road, its currently showing 6889 on Five Ways Island. Sorry for asking as well, I was just wandering as its been a long time since i've been to that area with lockdowns etc.
Is it a diversion or something?
Quote from: 2206 on February 23, 2021, 11:18:05 AM
How come the X20/X21/X22's track as going round the island at Five Ways instead of going through the bus gate on George Road, its currently showing 6889 on Five Ways Island. Sorry for asking as well, I was just wandering as its been a long time since i've been to that area with lockdowns etc.
Is it a diversion or something?
From: https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/disruptions/#/params?DisruptionType=true&when=All&TransportModeA=5#9958_TfWM
Roadworks at George Road, Five Ways
Affected Service(s):X20X21X22Start date:Fri 12 Feb 2021 at 12:01 AMEnd date:Fri 05 Mar 2021 at 03:00 PMDescription:
Whats Happening?
George Road from St James Road to Islington Row Middleway will be closed for roadworks.
When?
Wednesday 3 March to Friday 5 March
0930-1500 hours
Services Affected & Diversion Route
Service X20, X21, X22 to Birmingham
St James Road, Frederick Road, Islington Row Middleway, u-turn Five Ways Island, Islington Row Middleway, Bath Row, normal line of route
Service X20, X21, X22 to University Station
Normal line of route
Travel Advice
Buses are operating just allow extra time to travel.
Edit: it says the roadworks are 3-5 March, but the advice is running from 12 February.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 23, 2021, 11:47:34 AM
Edit: it says the roadworks are 3-5 March, but the advice is running from 12 February.
Yes, very confusing for any passengers who need that information, etc.
Notice 7522 isn't tracking on there, its on the 55 today.
It was running behind 7506 on the 94 at Ward End towards Chelmsley.
Buses tracking without a route:
4475
4603
6121
6878
6930
Can't find the others, so that's them.
International Express?
Just a testament to the reliability of bustimes; 431 appears to be tracking in the Gulf of Guinea currently! 😂
Quote from: CL on March 06, 2021, 01:38:33 AM
International Express?
Just a testament to the reliability of bustimes; 431 appears to be tracking in the Gulf of Guinea currently! 😂
I've seen buses from other operators having their first journey from this point.
Could be some sort of default GPS location when data is missing?
When I log into bustimes map defaults to middle of East Anglia!
Quote from: CL on March 06, 2021, 01:38:33 AM
International Express?
Just a testament to the reliability of bustimes; 431 appears to be tracking in the Gulf of Guinea currently! 😂
Quote from: JoNi on March 06, 2021, 09:35:41 AM
I've seen buses from other operators having their first journey from this point.
Could be some sort of default GPS location when data is missing?
GPS co-ordinates 0°00'00.0"N 0°00'00.0"E ;)
Interesting.
I find it interesting seeing withdrawn buses being manoeuvred around - at Pensnett right now, 4358 is showing in the graveyard - I noticed a couple of others there over the last couple of weeks (438x from YW and 442x from CV). Also 4306 at Miller Street overnight one night last week.
If buses were animate objects I'm sure the 43xx in service at Pensnett would be shuddering seeing the stream of their brethren being towed past to the breakers.....
Am I the only person to think that the bus trackermap is rather spoiling the art of bus spotting.
In the past if you needed a particular bus, then you would go out and try and find it, now you can find it very easily and you don't have to leave home.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 09, 2021, 03:35:09 PM
Am I the only person to think that the bus trackermap is rather spoiling the art of bus spotting.
In the past if you needed a particular bus, then you would go out and try and find it, now you can find it very easily and you don't have to leave home.
Yeah, but based on the example mentioned earlier, would you rely on it?
I would think it's generally quite accurate - however Tony did mention the equipment being transferred from one vehicle to another and if the ID isn't changed immediately might register as the wring vehicle on the tracker.
I thought it was 50/50 whether 3303, 4 and 5 shown at Pensnett at times this week were actually there or transferred equipment!!!
In terms of bus spotting, there's nothing to replace "in person" bus spotting but this new dip in and out when you feel like it stuff has an entirely new appeal all of its own!!
Quote from: don on March 09, 2021, 08:36:24 PM
I would think it's generally quite accurate - however Tony did mention the equipment being transferred from one vehicle to another and if the ID isn't changed immediately might register as the wring vehicle on the tracker.
I thought it was 50/50 whether 3303, 4 and 5 shown at Pensnett at times this week were actually there or transferred equipment!!!
In terms of bus spotting, there's nothing to replace "in person" bus spotting but this new dip in and out when you feel like it stuff has an entirely new appeal all of its own!!
It is 'almost' impossible for an NXWM vehicle to show the wrong ID. They do lose contact altogether occasionally so will completely disappear. There's normally up to around 5-10 vehicles at any time like this. 6860 is an example at the moment that is not connecting. If a bus is dead for a few days the batteries will die and again it will disappear completely. 5503 is currently in this state while it is repaired at Perry Barr from the RTC on the Bristol Road a few months back.
Incidently 3302 & 3305 are currently at WA. 3301, 3303 & 3304 are currently at PN. All have live batteries at the moment so should be showing
Thanks Tony - useful to know. Not that I spend hours on the bus tracker, more like 5 mins every so often and it's very interesting - I had noticed 3301 at PN I think last weekend but they don't all seem to show there all the time.
Quote from: don on March 09, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
Thanks Tony - useful to know. Not that I spend hours on the bus tracker, more like 5 mins every so often and it's very interesting - I had noticed 3301 at PN I think last weekend but they don't all seem to show there all the time.
Because they haven't been moved much lately the batteries never get fully charged, so while they have been under repair for a day or two they do soon disappear, one of 3301 or 3303, not sure which is having an MoT this week so will show on the move somewhere. I drove 3305 to Walsall earlier today, so that had a bit of charge as well.
Thanks, Tony
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 09, 2021, 03:35:09 PM
Am I the only person to think that the bus trackermap is rather spoiling the art of bus spotting.
In the past if you needed a particular bus, then you would go out and try and find it, now you can find it very easily and you don't have to leave home.
It definitely takes away that satisfactory feeling when you spot a rare finding in person. However, the tracker is really useful for tracking down old beasts that will be withdrawn soon, and I'm chuffed all buses are live now. Less time wasted hunting for a ride on individual buses furthermore.
As I mentioned earlier there's normally 5-10 vehicles where the tracker has stopped working, but are in service.
At the moment the list is
828, 835, 1765, 2002, 4556, 4569, 6860, 7522 & E026.
All these have been reported to the company that does our tracking equipment. any others not showing on BusTimes are currently dead for repair.
If anyone does see a bus in service other than those 9 that isn't on bustimes it is a new fault, so if it is posted I can report it
There are others that will show on the map with no details which also need reporting.
Recent transfers to WA & PN won't show route details until TfWM do their next update, but will show locations on the map.
4869 hasn't been tracking on the 51 today.
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2021, 10:54:36 AM
As I mentioned earlier there's normally 5-10 vehicles where the tracker has stopped working, but are in service.
At the moment the list is
828, 835, 1765, 2002, 4556, 4569, 6860, 7522 & E026.
All these have been reported to the company that does our tracking equipment. any others not showing on BusTimes are currently dead for repair.
If anyone does see a bus in service other than those 9 that isn't on bustimes it is a new fault, so if it is posted I can report it
There are others that will show on the map with no details which also need reporting.
Recent transfers to WA & PN won't show route details until TfWM do their next update, but will show locations on the map.
Bustimes depiction of vehicle locations has proved very useful when the real time info app I use is often still showing bus due when its already gone because the algorithms haven't kept pace with reduced loadings.
Only 2165 and 4830 have let the side down in Coventry remaining in the garage on the visual tracker despite showing the correct route and journey details.
2147 has tracked strangely from day one appearing on a Training bus and seems to have gone to Wolverhampton having been stuck on the 21 for a number of days.
I've been impressed the system has only been down for an hour in the couple of weeks its been live and that was in the evening.
Does anyone know if the NEAT Warks fleet are going to be tracking soon?
7506 is on the 7 this morning but not tracking the route number. 1751, 1831, 1891, 4475, 4500, 4743, 6121, 7508 also are doing this
4549 isn't tracking properly either, routes are showing but location has been stuck on Robin Hood Island for weeks. It's there now while on the 2
Does anyone know what the number's mean to the right of the times?
Quote from: WM_58 on March 18, 2021, 02:35:50 PM
Does anyone know what the number's mean to the right of the times?
It's the journey number
Thanks Tony
Quote from: WM_58 on March 18, 2021, 02:50:02 PM
Thanks Tony
On most routes even numbers are 'inbound' and odd numbers are 'outbound'
Quote from: ZF B7 on March 09, 2021, 11:29:42 PM
It definitely takes away that satisfactory feeling when you spot a rare finding in person. However, the tracker is really useful for tracking down old beasts that will be withdrawn soon, and I'm chuffed all buses are live now. Less time wasted hunting for a ride on individual buses furthermore.
I think it's a great tool to use, especially hunting down that one elusive vehicle, and I'm sure Tony's happy to see it all live now, resulting in less people asking for the whereabouts of a specific vehicle.
There's nothing stopping people from not using it, and just winging it like the days of old, too.
It will definitely save wasting time waiting for a bus that is not actually working that day.
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2021, 10:54:36 AM
As I mentioned earlier there's normally 5-10 vehicles where the tracker has stopped working, but are in service.
At the moment the list is
828, 835, 1765, 2002, 4556, 4569, 6860, 7522 & E026.
All these have been reported to the company that does our tracking equipment. any others not showing on BusTimes are currently dead for repair.
If anyone does see a bus in service other than those 9 that isn't on bustimes it is a new fault, so if it is posted I can report it
There are others that will show on the map with no details which also need reporting.
Recent transfers to WA & PN won't show route details until TfWM do their next update, but will show locations on the map.
X1 Branded 6842 on the 55 tonight isn't tracking on there. It was operating the 21:41 from Ward End towards City Centre.
Quote from: Tony on March 18, 2021, 02:39:46 PM
It's the journey number
What does the B number on the tickets stand for.
S94 J46 B120.
As they won't have 120 buses on the 94, so wander what it could mean?
Quote from: 2206 on March 25, 2021, 06:04:14 PM
What does the B number on the tickets stand for.
S94 J46 B120.
As they won't have 120 buses on the 94, so wander what it could mean?
Where does this appear? I haven't noticed it
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2021, 06:10:53 PM
Where does this appear? I haven't noticed it
It appears in the bottom left corner of the tickets above the web address.
The S94 J46 B120 are all together.
Quote from: 2206 on March 25, 2021, 06:12:05 PM
It appears in the bottom left corner of the tickets above the web address.
The S94 J46 B120 are all together.
Sorry, I cannot see it anywhere so cannot help
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2021, 06:21:20 PM
Sorry, I cannot see it anywhere so cannot help
https://images.app.goo.gl/SgXzgQKoQKcViUaaA
At the bottom left, underneath the price. In this example:
S: 952 J: 20 B: 155
Quote from: ellspurs on March 25, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
https://images.app.goo.gl/SgXzgQKoQKcViUaaA
At the bottom left, underneath the price. In this example:
S: 952 J: 20 B: 155
Thank you. Why was this question under Bustimes tracker map? That was why I couldn't see what was being referred to. That is just the ticket number
Quote from: ellspurs on March 25, 2021, 07:29:05 PM
https://images.app.goo.gl/SgXzgQKoQKcViUaaA
At the bottom left, underneath the price. In this example:
S: 952 J: 20 B: 155
Thanks for the info.
I asked about it here, because the J journey number had been explained here, so I was wandering what the B one meant as well and wasn't sure where else to ask about it.
1833 hasn't been tracked since February. Is everything alright with it?
Quote from: bbs on March 25, 2021, 11:50:39 PM
1833 hasn't been tracked since February. Is everything alright with it?
Some buses just don't track on there. Its like 4556 was in service on 15 but wasn't tracking
Quote from: bbs on March 25, 2021, 11:50:39 PM
1833 hasn't been tracked since February. Is everything alright with it?
It's one of about 40 vehicle long term off road waiting repairs
Presumably 4913 is also off the road as that certainly hasn't been out on the 55 for a while and hasn't been tracking.
The tracker also shows some interesting interworking, such as the bus scheduled to operate journey 175 on the 55 then runs dead and is timetabled to do late night 14's.
2064 is not tracking on service 15 today.
Quote from: Roy on March 29, 2021, 12:26:09 PM
2064 is not tracking on service 15 today.
Thanks - yes reported as defective.
4866 hasn't been tracking today on the 51.
Quote from: Jack on March 29, 2021, 09:24:57 PM
4866 hasn't been tracking today on the 51.
Thank you, yes, Walsall was one of 5 garages I checked the entire fleet of today and found that one
According to bus times 804 seems to be stuck on Balmoral Road since 15.51 does that mean it's GPS location is broken?
Quote from: BK63 YWP on March 30, 2021, 11:01:58 PM
According to bus times 804 seems to be stuck on Balmoral Road since 15.51 does that mean it's GPS location is broken?
Well it's in the garage now so maybe bustimes was just slow to update it on your end.
Quote from: mesub on March 31, 2021, 07:46:36 AM
Well it's in the garage now so maybe bustimes was just slow to update it on your end.
Fault with the data
4490 not tracking on X4 today
4866 isn't tracking either on bus times for the NWM app. Currently on it on the 997
Thanks both. I reported 4866 a few days ago, but 4490 hasnt been out before this week so hadn't noticed it was faulty
saw 759 on 22 today still not tracking since 16th of March
Quote from: cris 99 on March 31, 2021, 05:03:45 PM
saw 759 on 22 today still not tracking since 16th of March
To save them getting repeated, this is a list of vehicles I had reported as defective up until this morning. Some do track, but not fully, and because I have reported them hopefully some others are now working
4282 AG
4529 AG
6115 AG
4464 BC
4877 BC
4900 BC
4904 BC
6834 BC
7522 BC
6965 CV
4475 PB
828 PN
835 PN
2098 PN
2101 PN
1751 WA
1850 WA
3301 WA
4866 WA
759 WB
4271 WB
4743 WB
6980 WB
845 WN
2064 WN
4431 WN
4556 WN
4549 YW
4726 YW
E011 YW
804 PN
Anyone noticed X529 appear as X52, presumably as the little box display is too small!
Quote from: Westy on March 31, 2021, 06:12:13 PM
Anyone noticed X529 appear as X52, presumably as the little box display is too small!
It appears to show as X529 everywhere except on the map where no route shows more than 3 digits
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2021, 05:34:14 PM
To save them getting repeated, this is a list of vehicles I had reported as defective up until this morning. Some do track, but not fully, and because I have reported them hopefully some others are now working
4282 AG
4529 AG
6115 AG
4464 BC
4877 BC
4900 BC
4904 BC
6834 BC
7522 BC
6965 CV
4475 PB
828 PN
835 PN
2098 PN
2101 PN
1751 WA
1850 WA
3301 WA
4866 WA
759 WB
4271 WB
4743 WB
6980 WB
845 WN
2064 WN
4431 WN
4556 WN
4549 YW
4726 YW
E011 YW
804 PN
Also 6914 from YW
7522 is on the coventry road tracking as X21 but if you look at is journeys they say X2- but the routes have been either X1 or X2 all day
Quote from: SK68MEV on April 05, 2021, 05:29:49 PM
7522 is on the coventry road tracking as X21 but if you look at is journeys they say X2- but the routes have been either X1 or X2 all day
If you have a look at the list above you will see it is in the 'faulty' list
5428 is tracking but there is no number on it
4526 was tracking on the 80A last night and 13/13A today. Transfer or a loan?
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 06, 2021, 10:22:51 AM
4526 was tracking on the 80A last night and 13/13A today. Transfer or a loan?
Isn't the 13/A pensnett and west brom operated?
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 06, 2021, 10:22:51 AM
4526 was tracking on the 80A last night and 13/13A today. Transfer or a loan?
its a transfer
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 06, 2021, 10:52:46 AM
Isn't the 13/A pensnett and west brom operated?
It is. During lockdown it only tends to be operated by PE in the evenings. The 80A is solely operated by WB
PE - Pensnett
WB - West Bromwich
Quote from: bbs on April 06, 2021, 11:09:30 AM
its a transfer
Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Is 4525 also going to WB?
PN 729 isn't tracking it's on the 28 today
Half of the buses (including Perry Barr) not tracking today, I wonder what's wrong?
Quote from: busboy31 on April 10, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
Half of the buses (including Perry Barr) not tracking today, I wonder what's wrong?
Appears to be working to me
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2021, 12:08:22 PM
Appears to be working to me
It was only showing Acocks Green buses earlier. So must have been some sort of fault with it.
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 06, 2021, 12:10:18 PM
It is. During lockdown it only tends to be operated by PE in the evenings. The 80A is solely operated by WB
PE - Pensnett
WB - West Bromwich
Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Is 4525 also going to WB?
Yeah
Did bustimes show me parked up in the layby at Wollaston and going to the bog ?
6946 has been tracking as X12 all evening but has been on the 45/47
Quote from: karl724223 on April 10, 2021, 10:40:18 PM
Did bustimes show me parked up in the layby at Wollaston and going to the bog ?
There's a good chance it did mate!
7508 hasn't been tracking the last couple of days.
2116 says it on the 29 but on the map it's stuck in the corner of Walsall garage
Looks like the X2 board that 7530 was on this morning, now goes onto the X12/X70 at Solihull Station. From the map. Which must be new interworking as used to run dead back to the garage
Quote from: 2206 on April 19, 2021, 10:52:02 AM
Looks like the X2 board that 7530 was on this morning, now goes onto the X12/X70 at Solihull Station. From the map. Which must be new interworking as used to run dead back to the garage
It is an X12/X70 that does the X2S first
Not sure if this is the best thread to post in - apologies if not.
I posted about the SFA1/2 (and also noticed the CG4) were not tracking properly on bus times on the 'Buses not tracking' thread on Monday. I now think this is because the SFA timetables have been deleted completely from the main NX WM website timetable page, and the CG4 although listed as a route does not show the timetable. They were there before Easter so not sure if they have been removed in error.
How do you get these re-instated onto the NX WM main website please?
Quote from: AIR on April 22, 2021, 05:29:36 PM
Not sure if this is the best thread to post in - apologies if not.
I posted about the SFA1/2 (and also noticed the CG4) were not tracking properly on bus times on the 'Buses not tracking' thread on Monday. I now think this is because the SFA timetables have been deleted completely from the main NX WM website timetable page, and the CG4 although listed as a route does not show the timetable. They were there before Easter so not sure if they have been removed in error.
How do you get these re-instated onto the NX WM main website please?
Bustimes isn't affected by the NXWM website and NXWM have obviously supplied the data as 4597 is recorded as operating the SFA1, so I am not sure why you say it isn't being tracked
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/179078
Quote from: AIR on April 22, 2021, 05:29:36 PM
How do you get these re-instated onto the NX WM main website please?
Contact NX Bus regarding any issues with the website here:
https://nationalexpressportal.icasework.com/form?Type=Complaint&MenuContext=UKBUS
Hello Tony,
Yes the individual vehicles are tracking fine but they are not linking to the service timetable on bus times because since Easter the service/timetable is not showing at all, unlike all the 7x and 8x closed services. This means that to track the journey you have to identify the vehicle first - not great if in a rush.
If you click on a timetable it says that the 'timetable data is from National Express West Midlands/Bus Open Data Service' and appears to be updated every week on a Monday for that week. I have assumed, probably incorrectly, that this comes from the timetables on the NX Website, but perhaps both are fed from another database, given that they have both disappeared at the same time. It is really useful to have the 'journey timetable' showing on the left of the map so that you can identify if the bus is running early/late depending on the traffic, and by how much. This is particularly useful in the evening to try and avoid stroppy teenager situation, which is never good in my experience!
Sorry Stu just noticed your post as I ended up typing my previous one 3 times before it would post. Thanks for the information - I will contact them.
Quote from: AIR on April 22, 2021, 07:57:13 PM
it says that the ‘timetable data is from National Express West Midlands/Bus Open Data Service’ and appears to be updated every week on a Monday for that week.
Bus Open Data Service is basically all the timetable data that has been registered that all bus operators are now legally required to make freely available. It is not connected to the website at all.
The data obviously does include the SFA1, It is actually on a 29 running board, as it is matched to the vehicle, so there is a missing link at Bustimes end somewhere
4802's tracking on bustimes.org has been stuck on 907 for the last couple of days.
Also 4486 and 7509 have been showing no route numbers for the last few days whilst being in service.
Tracking Journeys of buses from 18th February to 31st March have been disappeared...
Quote from: busboy31 on April 29, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
Tracking Journeys of buses from 18th February to 31st March have been disappeared...
Cannot keep info on forever
I know nothing can be done but it seems like most buses in south Birmingham (might be elsewhere aswell) aren't tracking on google maps anymore- it's been like this since Monday.
Quote from: busboy31 on April 29, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
Tracking Journeys of buses from 18th February to 31st March have been disappeared...
Roughly 23 buses has no journeys they either aren't tracking or off road
Quote from: SN65 OMC on April 29, 2021, 08:53:51 PM
Roughly 23 buses has no journeys they either aren't tracking or off road
There's roughly 170 buses not tracking each day
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2021, 09:17:19 PM
There's roughly 170 buses not tracking each day
So I might not know what route they've been on..
Quote from: busboy31 on April 29, 2021, 10:43:12 PM
So I might not know what route they've been on..
There's roughly 170 buses not tracking because they are not on a route
I notice this bus times (fleet) list is showing an assortment of route
numbers preceded by the letters N D K H and W I cant see what the letters
are there for can someone explain? thanks
N=Wolverhampton. D=Dudley. L=Walsall. H=West bromwich
Quote from: stephen ford on May 04, 2021, 06:13:47 PM
N=Wolverhampton. D=Dudley. L=Walsall. H=West bromwich
Nice to see a WMPTE throwback!
Quote from: Gareth on May 04, 2021, 06:27:28 PM
Nice to see a WMPTE throwback!
Diamond also have something similar, such as the 40 showing as H40, and the Coventry 42 showing as C42.
Quote from: stephen ford on May 04, 2021, 06:13:47 PM
N=Wolverhampton. D=Dudley. L=Walsall. H=West bromwich
thanks for thatIi suppose its useful if there are/may be more than one service with the same number
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
Cannot keep info on forever
I wrote to bustimes asking if historical data could be kept on system accepting the likely performance problems this could cause. Responder was happy to keep about a month's worth of data so that cross referencing with previous similar days (e.g. Saturdays and Sundays) could be undertaken so as to check the vehicle likely to turn up on a journey.
With hyperlinks to maps dropping off after a few days the balance has been struck to enable the system to function reliably when I make enquiries, usually to find location of vehicle where route stops have not been updated on Real Time Info!
If people want to keep historic info then take screenshots or copy and paste to spreadsheet
Quote from: windy miller on May 04, 2021, 05:45:13 PM
I notice this bus times (fleet) list is showing an assortment of route
numbers preceded by the letters N D K H and W I cant see what the letters
are there for can someone explain? thanks
Reference letters indicate the area the service is in to prevent confusion due to duplicated service numbers:
N = Wolverhampton
D = Dudley
K = Kingswinford
H = West Bromwich
W = Walsall
also C for Coventry
Quote from: Tony on April 30, 2021, 06:30:13 AM
There's roughly 170 buses not tracking because they are not on a route
I was annoyed when I couldn't find Arrivas Merseyside PTE liveried Enviro only to find it had been repainted! Those who run Bustimes have my full admiration for what they achieve keeping the system running on a daily basis, including Christmas day!
Quote from: JoNi on May 04, 2021, 08:47:28 PM
I was annoyed when I couldn't find Arrivas Merseyside PTE liveried Enviro only to find it had been repainted! Those who run Bustimes have my full admiration for what they achieve keeping the system running on a daily basis, including Christmas day!
I didn't realise it had been repainted. I only photographed it in November
https://wmbusphotos.com/ArrivaUK/NW4590.html
Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2021, 08:53:52 PM
I didn't realise it had been repainted. I only photographed it in November
https://wmbusphotos.com/ArrivaUK/NW4590.html
Full marks to NX for keeping heritage liveries 4453 seems to have been around for ages but its days must be numbered with electrification of Coventrys buses on the horizon.
A friend has just told me that 4922 seems to be tracking not too far from Ipswich earlier this morning (stationary) and now it seems to be tracking not too far from the A1(M). Apparently it's on the 49 though?
Quote from: mesub on May 05, 2021, 04:19:41 PM
A friend has just told me that 4922 seems to be tracking not too far from Ipswich earlier this morning (stationary) and now it seems to be tracking not too far from the A1(M). Apparently it's on the 49 though?
I'm guessing there's a fault with the GPS location, it ended up in France yesterday:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/178046?date=2021-05-04#journeys/128237081
;D
Quote from: Stu on May 05, 2021, 07:14:44 PM
I'm guessing there's a fault with the GPS location, it ended up in France yesterday:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/178046?date=2021-05-04#journeys/128237081
;D
Interesting indeed.
Try this. It apparently sailed through the English Channel while on the 76.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/178046?date=2021-05-04#journeys/128047712
Quote from: busfan2847 on May 05, 2021, 08:53:45 PM
Try this. It apparently sailed through the English Channel while on the 76.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/178046?date=2021-05-04#journeys/128047712
Well.. that was some glitch!!
4478 and 6810 aren't tracking at all at the minute and 6809 continually tracks as a 65.
2231 tracking at Wolverhampton Garage -
@Tony is this in for MOT/remedial work or on a parts run? Thanks, in advance, for your help.
WN5427 currently on diversion via The English Channel!
Quote from: Wumpty on November 01, 2021, 02:03:25 PM
WN5427 currently on diversion via The English Channel!
That's got to be the best one so far!
Quote from: JoNi on May 04, 2021, 09:15:26 PM
Full marks to NX for keeping heritage liveries 4453 seems to have been around for ages but its days must be numbered with electrification of Coventrys buses on the horizon.
Isn't there a case for one of the new electric buses to be treated in the livery as seen on 4453 when they arrive?
Quote from: markcf83 on November 01, 2021, 06:27:35 PM
Isn't there a case for one of the new electric buses to be treated in the livery as seen on 4453 when they arrive?
Unfortunately not. Part of the electric city contract excludes it
Surely it would stay in Coventry & perhaps be used by the Transport Museum on an ad hoc basis maybe?
Quote from: Westy on November 01, 2021, 06:07:31 PM
That's got to be the best one so far!
It got better as the afternoon went on - it "docked" just east of Hastings and ran the long route back to Stourbridge via St Leonards and Hastings!!!
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2021, 06:51:25 PM
Unfortunately not. Part of the electric city contract excludes it
Does that mean the NX/Stagecoach/Arriva/other etc. buses in Coventry will have the same livery?
Anyone spotted that 4734 seems to be parked in the new estate just south of the Walsall depot?
(Not the first time, a vehicle has been spotted there!)
Quote from: Westy on November 02, 2021, 07:58:22 PM
Anyone spotted that 4734 seems to be parked in the new estate just south of the Walsall depot?
(Not the first time, a vehicle has been spotted there!)
Seems to be a tracking error
Tbf it can sometimes be a case of the BODS systen either not receiving/distributing the data correctly that leads to buses ending up in the channel or even on Null Island
7501 making a run for it on the M6 south! Go on Kate Lauren, run free!
Quote from: Wumpty on November 04, 2021, 01:15:35 PM
7501 making a run for it on the M6 south! Go on Kate Lauren, run free!
MOT day
4460 sat in a field between Tamworth and Ashby-de-la-Zouche :o
Did anyone spot a 937 Platinum running in Bloxwich last night?
One minute, it was on the map, next it wasn't!
Perhaps it was the ghost of Chicken Tom?!
1839 is tracking back to Walsall, but Bustimes.org showing he's going to Wolverhampton.
Suspect the driver running late, so didn't have chance to update his machine?
(Sister is on the bus at the moment, so gives me a legit reason!)
5403 now heading home with Captain
@Tony at the controls!
Yes, drawn a lovely long line on the map!
PB4847 has gone rogue in Warwickshire on a 33!!!
4282 is tracking today for the first time for over a year!
Quote from: Wumpty on November 23, 2021, 11:05:42 AM
PB4847 has gone rogue in Warwickshire on a 33!!!
I did see a 33 branded bus coming down the Collector Road this afternoon, which I assume was making its way to do the 891 school run in Coleshill. This would've been a few hours after your screenshot though.
Quote from: ellspurs on November 23, 2021, 06:59:34 PM
I did see a 33 branded bus coming down the Collector Road this afternoon, which I assume was making its way to do the 891 school run in Coleshill. This would've been a few hours after your screenshot though.
4846 was working PM peak 94/95's.
The only school on a PB 94/95 Birmingham to Chelmsley via Ward End running board is a AM 839. That board is always allocated a 44XX Gemini and somedays it can be the sole Gemini on the routes from what i've seen. It is scheduled to work the 9.52am 95 departure from City (Its first departure from City).
891 is run by BC.
Quote from: 2206 on November 23, 2021, 07:02:07 PM
4846 was working PM peaks 94/95's.
The only school on a PB 94/95 Birmingham to Chelmsley via Ward End running board is a AM 839. That board is always allocated a 44XX Gemini and somedays it can be the sole Gemini on the routes from what i've seen. It is scheduled to work the 9.52am 95 departure from City.
891 is run by BC.
So more simply, it was going to Chelmsley Wood then and not Coleshill.
WA6752 heading north along A38 towards Derby - Private Hire or other?
Quote from: Wumpty on November 24, 2021, 08:16:27 AM
WA6752 heading north along A38 towards Derby - Private Hire or other?
Me taking it to Plaxtons for warranty repairs
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2021, 10:32:38 AM
Me taking it to Plaxtons for warranty repairs
Has the breakfast at Woodhall Services improved ?
Quote from: Wumpty on November 24, 2021, 10:55:41 AM
Has the breakfast at Woodhall Services improved ?
New 'breakfast bar' there, excellent value for the coach driver 1p deal
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2021, 11:44:49 AM
New 'breakfast bar' there, excellent value for the coach driver 1p deal
"Sign the book driver - badge number and passengers please!!!! ;D ;D ;D"
Quote from: Wumpty on November 24, 2021, 12:12:07 PM
"Sign the book driver - badge number and passengers please!!!! ;D ;D ;D"
Welcome break have gone modern now, you scan a barcode with your phone.
Currently on 6780 on X8 not tracking. Unsure if mentioned before.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 25, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
Currently on 6780 on X8 not tracking. Unsure if mentioned before.
See the following topic for reporting this:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5982.0
I've just seen that my name is removed on the bustimes website! Presumbly because 4817 is not tracking.
WB760 having a virtual day out in Berkshire!
4864 tracking in Salford!
I have just taken E022 to Plaxtons for RTC repairs. 4864 is at Potts Engines for warranty repairs on an engine they fitted
Quote from: Tony on December 08, 2021, 11:24:02 AM
I have just taken E022 to Plaxtons for RTC repairs. 4864 is at Potts Engines for warranty repairs on an engine they fitted
I thought that might've been you in E022.
When did they replace the original engine?
6106 on X10 going off-piste in Pedmore Fields!
Quote from: Wumpty on December 09, 2021, 12:40:06 PM
6106 on X10 going off-piste in Pedmore Fields!
6106 on loan at WN - looks like tracker is stuck as an X10 as it's on WN59 showing X10 on Bustimes..
When I look at Bustimes tracker map it's not showing any NXWM vehicles at all but it's showing all other local operators, been like it for about a week now.
Anybody help me to understand why please.
Quote from: 888DUK on December 20, 2021, 12:55:11 PM
When I look at Bustimes tracker map it's not showing any NXWM vehicles at all but it's showing all other local operators, been like it for about a week now.
Anybody help me to understand why please.
Already been explained in another thread...
Quote from: Stu on December 18, 2021, 10:24:23 AM
Correct, there is nothing wrong with BusTimes and there is nothing they can do about this.
The issue is that NX West Midlands' data feed is currently showing as 'Inactive' in BODS:
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/3338/
The reason for this I do not know, there will be some 'technical issue' somewhere which I am sure is being worked on.
So from what I understand the issue is on the BODS' end and it's something they need to sort out rather than it being anything to do with NXWM or bustimes.org.
Is there another bus website similar to bus times org to track buses nationally.
Quote from: PB2938 on December 20, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
Is there another bus website similar to bus times org to track buses nationally.
Regional vehicle finder
BODS changed the specification of the data required last week. The information supplied by the company that fits our trackers meets the new spec, but apparently there is a problem with some of the fields not matching properly. It is being looked into. The Hydrogen vehicles have a new type of tracker fitted and there's a problem with the firmware not matching. These are going to have the trackers swapped to get them working
Quote from: Tony on December 20, 2021, 05:16:32 PM
BODS changed the specification of the data required last week. The information supplied by the company that fits our trackers meets the new spec, but apparently there is a problem with some of the fields not matching properly. It is being looked into. The Hydrogen vehicles have a new type of tracker fitted and there's a problem with the firmware not matching. These are going to have the trackers swapped to get them working
That does make sense, and I did see on the BODS website that a number of other operators have had their feeds 'deactivated', potentially for the same reason.
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/?q=&organisation=&status=inactive&submitform=submit&ordering=-modified
On a positive note, it looks like NX West Midlands have a new data feed set up, though it is not yet reporting any vehicle activity, so this could be resolved soon:
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/6022/
Thanks Guys appreciated 👍
Nx Bus times is working again what a relief 😌
I doubt the two are linked but it looks like the latest changes haven't yet been added onto google maps.
6850 showing as an X12 in Bartley Green on bustimes.
All NX buses has stopped tracking again on bustimes.org
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 08, 2022, 12:14:10 PM
All NX buses has stopped tracking again on bustimes.org
wow again?
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 08, 2022, 12:14:10 PM
All NX buses has stopped tracking again on bustimes.org
What was the problem?
Looks like there's no live tracking on Google maps or bus checker either.
Quote from: BMJ1970 on January 08, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
Looks like there's no live tracking on Google maps or bus checker either.
Neither on the screen outside Wednesbury Great Western St tram stop on my way home earlier, which shows departures from the bus station. I presume the other screens at stations weren't showing live times either.
Quote from: DJ on January 08, 2022, 09:25:41 PM
Neither on the screen outside Wednesbury Great Western St tram stop on my way home earlier, which shows departures from the bus station. I presume the other screens at stations weren't showing live times either.
Priory Queensway stops were showing RTI times live.
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 08, 2022, 12:14:10 PM
All NX buses has stopped tracking again on bustimes.org
They're back now, after a minor error yesterday!
6781 is tracking as 6771 on bustimes.org
4944 is tracking as a 45 although it's a 14
Quote from: bbs on January 17, 2022, 12:49:56 AM
4944 is tracking as a 45 although it's a 14
Pretty certain that's on the 94/95's
H1005 stretching her legs - Butlins or Bust?! ;D ;D ;D
H1014 tracking in Weston Super Mare! Second Hydrogen mis-tracking in as many days.
I love it!
Quote from: Wumpty on January 20, 2022, 11:23:43 AM
H1014 tracking in Weston Super Mare! Second Hydrogen mis-tracking in as many days.
I love it!
enjoying a nice holiday
annnnnd NXWM is no longer tracking again
Quote from: mesub on January 20, 2022, 09:57:55 PM
annnnnd NXWM is no longer tracking again
Oh, not again!
Hope they get it fixed by the morning!
Quote from: mesub on January 20, 2022, 09:57:55 PM
annnnnd NXWM is no longer tracking again
BODS is rejecting the data again from Traffilog and Traffilog don't know why at the moment, so may be some time
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2022, 07:06:12 AM
BODS is rejecting the data again from Traffilog and Traffilog don't know why at the moment, so may be some time
So it's restarting for all buses?
Tracking has returned!
Quote from: mesub on January 21, 2022, 11:00:53 AM
Tracking has returned!
Hallelujah! Let's hope it still works tonight!
Quote from: mesub on January 21, 2022, 11:00:53 AM
Tracking has returned!
They all need to work to save not tracking again!
I'm not sure whether this is a Bustimes problem or a BODS problem, but for some reason all the NX journeys are showing up dduplicated (for example, the 09:23 935 off Birmingham is showing up twice on the timetable).
4282 is tracking as a 41 for quite some time now but It wasn't a 41
Quote from: bbs on February 06, 2022, 10:40:57 AM
4282 is tracking as a 41 for quite some time now but It wasn't a 41
Yes it has been on every faulty list I have put on here
8A Inner Circle doesn't have a timetable on bustimes.org
6893 is on the 6 but showing as a 50
Looks like NX have stopped tracking again this morning.
Quote from: DJ on February 13, 2022, 09:06:22 AM
Looks like NX have stopped tracking again this morning.
Resetting again to make sure all buses track.
The Green Bus are still not tracking. They stopped at the beginning of October, save for a 'blip' around 4 Jan when they tracked again for a day or so.
Moderator Note
Moved to General Discussion area, for use as a general chit-chat topic regarding BusTimes.
To report issues with NX Bus vehicles not tracking correctly, please continue to use the following thread:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5982.0
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but 6946 has been tracking as a 24 for a couple of days even though it's been on X12/X13s - as well as other services.
► https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278569
Quote from: GoldenSquid on February 14, 2022, 06:27:34 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but 6946 has been tracking as a 24 for a couple of days even though it's been on X12/X13s - as well as other services.
► https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278569
Quote from: Stu on February 13, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
To report issues with NX Bus vehicles not tracking correctly, please continue to use the following thread:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5982.0
2225 tracking as a 13?
There's no timetable for the PB8A and WB45 on bustimes
No bus tracking as of now
Quote from: bbs on February 24, 2022, 02:31:28 PM
No bus tracking as of now
It went off around an hour ago. The national map is still working with WB/PN and Birmingham garages still showing NXWM buses as tracking. Modern technology!
Quote from: bbs on February 24, 2022, 02:31:28 PM
No bus tracking as of now
Quote from: Wumpty on February 24, 2022, 02:36:18 PM
It went off around an hour ago. The national map is still working with WB/PN and Birmingham garages still showing NXWM buses as tracking. Modern technology!
Apart from Stagecoach services in Coventry, and National Express coaches, there are no buses tracking at all in the West Midlands region.
Apparently BODS went down for maintenance yesterday:
https://twitter.com/SmithysTP/status/1496920384557494281
This kind of IT maintenance work should ideally be done overnight in my opinion, when less people are likely to be affected or inconvenienced.
There has been issues all week, I've been up in Newcastle, and both Go North East and Gateshead Central Taxis were either updating very infrequently, or dropping off the tracker altogether.
Stagecoach seemed to be less affected up there, possibly due to them not using Ticketer.
Tracking is down again, this time for all operators in the West Midlands. The only vehicles tracking are NX coaches.
Here we see a Portree-based Plaxton Panther making a visit to Birmingham - apparently its journey started in London so I suspect it's been thrown onto a Megabus duty
Quote from: Raedwald on March 11, 2022, 11:07:39 AM
Here we see a Portree-based Plaxton Panther making a visit to Birmingham - apparently its journey started in London so I suspect it's been thrown onto a Megabus duty
Nope, 54122 is currently parked in the depot at Portree. That's 50410, which is tracking as 54122 on Bustimes for some reason.
bustimes.org is down now.
(It's returned now).
Still problems tracking , some operators showing and others not. And one operator has it's vehicles running at times in the future . . . . . . . :huh:
No Diamonds are tracking at the moment.
No NX buses are tracking at the moment.
No buses tracking only stagecoach buses in Coventry
Seems to be no tracking for any operator other than Stagecoach and NCT, with Arriva, First and NX being some of the operators not tracking atm.
Tracker now working
What does T1 mean on bustimes as I've been quite a few PN vehicles tracking as it today
The bustimes website is down.
QuoteThe bustimes website is down.
There is a server issue as cloudflare is down
Quote from: busboy31 on June 21, 2022, 07:59:48 AMThe bustimes website is down.
Quote from: BK63 YWP on June 21, 2022, 08:07:23 AMThere is a server issue as cloudflare is down
There were quite a few websites that were down this morning, including my own, and I don't use Cloudflare.
I understand there have been a number of big DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks on numerous servers and datacentres in recent weeks.
What does t1 mean on bus times
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on June 24, 2022, 04:49:19 PMWhat does t1 mean on bus times
I've noticed quite a few NX Buses have tracked as T1 seems to only be when their in the depots, today there's WN and YW buses tracking as T1.
Does any one know what it means
Quote from: BNH2004 on June 30, 2022, 07:51:21 PMI've noticed quite a few NX Buses have tracked as T1 seems to only be when their in the depots, today there's WN and YW buses tracking as T1.
Does any one know what it means
I don't know for certain, so don't take this as an authoritative answer, but I would hazard a guess that as this happens when a vehicle is at a depot that it is either some kind of 'testing' or 'training' mode being used to train new drivers on how to use the Init system.
If the person is on here who keeps altering vehicles on bustimes to delete the names on repaints can they stop please? (user 1911)
They have deleted the names on both 2002 & 2229 saying name removed on repaint, but they don't know this, as both vehicles will have their names re-applied by the paintshop before release back to garage.
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2022, 09:05:47 AMIf the person is on here who keeps altering vehicles on bustimes to delete the names on repaints can they stop please? (user 1911)
They have deleted the names on both 2002 & 2229 saying name removed on repaint, but they don't know this, as both vehicles will have their names re-applied by the paintshop before release back to garage.
Why isn't certain information 'locked' to stop people messing about?
Quote from: Westy on July 07, 2022, 06:19:04 PMWhy isn't certain information 'locked' to stop people messing about?
Due to the nature of open sourcing. Tony (or someone else at NX) would have to prove to Bustimes that they were employees, and I don't think Bustimes want to do all the verification work which that would enable.
NX and Diamond have stopped tracking again
QuoteNX and Diamond have stopped tracking again
I thought it was only me for a second
All PB buses aren't showing their route destinations.
Quote from: busboy31 on July 19, 2022, 09:24:39 AMAll PB buses aren't showing their route destinations.
It's not just PB's buses.
There must be some kind of data feed error, as the website also isn't showing any timetables for NX Bus services.
Most of the timetables are the ones due to start on 24th July for some reason
Quote from: cardew on July 19, 2022, 06:28:39 PMMost of the timetables are the ones due to start on 24th July for some reason
Summer holiday timetables
Quote from: Solo1 on July 19, 2022, 11:27:18 PMSummer holiday timetables
Yes, they are. My point was they have been loaded to the bustimes website six days before they come in to force displacing the current timetables
I appear to have lost the Vehicle Tracking app and I cant find it on line The bus tracker options appear to follow services not individual Vehicles can someone tell me where to find the vehicle tracker or has the service been withdrawn? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on July 20, 2022, 06:03:18 PMI appear to have lost the Vehicle Tracking app and I cant find it on line The bus tracker options appear to follow services not individual Vehicles can someone tell me where to find the vehicle tracker or has the service been withdrawn? thanks
This one?
https://bustimes.org/
Yes Thanks Stu I'm not sure of the reference 'T1' stands for? it would
appear that all The hydrogen fleet operate from walsall presumably with
other walsall vehicles?
Quote from: windy miller on July 26, 2022, 01:07:45 PMYes Thanks Stu I'm not sure of the reference 'T1' stands for? it would
appear that all The hydrogen fleet operate from walsall presumably with
other walsall vehicles?
T1 appears to be what's displayed when a NXWM bus is in a depot, presumably some kind of test/restricted mode on the Init machine so that it doesn't have the ability to print tickets or be logged in to a trip.
The StreetDeck FCEVs are all based at Walsall, and are allocated to the 51.
Diamond 30960.
Can it be on both the 002 & 326 at the same time?
(Only looked, to see if my bus home was likely to be on time , else wouldn't have noticed!)
I have just seen 4488 doing the 14 in alum rock road but bustimes isn't tracking it it says last in use June 25th
Quote from: AGPlaysMC on August 04, 2022, 04:13:41 PMI have just seen 4488 doing the 14 in alum rock road but bustimes isn't tracking it it says last in use June 25th
Hi,
If you see NX buses in service that are not tracking correctly on BusTimes, please report in the following topic:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5982.0
Quote from: Westy on August 04, 2022, 03:18:41 PMDiamond 30960.
Can it be on both the 002 & 326 at the same time?
(Only looked, to see if my bus home was likely to be on time , else wouldn't have noticed!)
Of course not, one of the buses will have the wrong fleet number entered into the Ticketer unit.
I love how people know what NX are doing.
I see someone altered 1868 to withdrawn!
I have no idea who made that decision because NX haven't yet
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2022, 09:07:25 AMI love how people know what NX are doing.
I see someone altered 1868 to withdrawn!
Maybe the same person could get the tracker for National Express Coaches working again. :wink:
QuoteI love how people know what NX are doing.
I see someone altered 1868 to withdrawn!
I have no idea who made that decision because NX haven't yet
Who ever is user 1911 they make a load of changes has 2007 and 2209 gone into paint as they have changed those to the new scheme
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on August 10, 2022, 09:13:40 AMMaybe the same person could get the tracker for National Express Coaches working again. :wink:
I think that is due to changes with the API that NX publish
QuoteWho ever is user 1911 they make a load of changes has 2007 and 2209 gone into paint as they have changed those to the new scheme
1911 is me
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2022, 09:07:25 AMI love how people know what NX are doing.
I see someone altered 1868 to withdrawn!
I have no idea who made that decision because NX haven't yet
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2022, 10:26:22 AM1911 is me
@Tony I thought you were 1503 cause on some edits it says 'Tony Hunter NXWM' on them
And there was an edit where user 1911 withdraw 1868 and falsely removed names from recently replaced buses
Quote@Tony I thought you were 1503 cause on some edits it says 'Tony Hunter NXWM' on them
And there was an edit where user 1911 withdraw 1868 and falsely removed names from recently replaced buses
It was me that did 2209 and 2007 anyway
E025 says it's on a 9 to Walsgrave when it's on a private hire
[font="Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Once again someone has deleted 4301 from Bustimes as withdrawn. Why? It is currently on the pits receiving attention[/font]
[font="Segoe UI Historic", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The same person has altered the Wolverhampton Hybrid conversions from E40H to E40D. Yes they have had the hybrid removed but E40H is the chassis designation and that does not change, the chassis is still the same as built and the chassis plate still says E40H.[/font]
4312 has been tracking on some YW routes in recent days including the 27 where it has been shown as going under the bridge at Bournville Station. Can anyone shed any light on this mystery?!
Quote4312 has been tracking on some YW routes in recent days including the 27 where it has been shown as going under the bridge at Bournville Station. Can anyone shed any light on this mystery?!
The tracker from 4312 was removed and re-used to replace a faulty one in 1928. It's taking Traffilog who maintain the trackers a few days to correct the programming.
Once again someone is trying to be clever on there, putting an edit on for things that haven't happened. Saying 2009 lost it's name 4 days ago when it went for paint. Only problem was it was still in service until yesterday named and in crimson.
It is in paint now, but painted buses have their names reapplied before leaving Walsall
E081 is the first of the new electrics the tracking company have got to work properly on Bustimes & RVF
Seems on of the NX 40 service buses was not tracking this morning. I usually catch the 40 at 5:56 and this was not tracking at all. There again it never turned up or was running very late.
6141 has a extremely slow tracker which doesn't update at all sometimes
I understand its not always accurate, but I am glad bustimes exists to be honest, as it looks like 6885 has broken down or something similar at Uni Station as it hasn't gone passed that point for some time but the one after did. It does help in giving you warning to an extent.
List of departures showing vehicle allocated twice. Eg 0825 on Wolves 16.
5430 currently not tracking on 1
National express are not tracking on bus times
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on December 12, 2022, 08:53:28 PMNational express are not tracking on bus times
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/10063/
BODs data is inactive
Quote from: BNH2004 on December 12, 2022, 09:30:35 PMhttps://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/10063/
BODs data is inactive
Does this mean they will not track again
QuoteDoes this mean they will not track again
They won't track until it's fixed, which can take anywhere from a few hours up to a few days... We'll just have to see how it goes.
Quote from: mesub on December 12, 2022, 09:51:10 PMThey won't track until it's fixed, which can take anywhere from a few hours up to a few days... We'll just have to see how it goes.
Will it be fixed for all buses (incl. defective buses)?
Quote from: BNH2004 on December 12, 2022, 09:30:35 PMhttps://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/dataset/10063/
BODs data is inactive
New feed now active:
https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/avl/?q=&organisation=62&status=&avl_compliance_status_cached=&submitform=submit&ordering=-modified
Quote from: busboy31 on December 13, 2022, 11:59:44 PMWill it be fixed for all buses (incl. defective buses)?
This would have been a system issue relating to generation of data feed file, individual vehicles that don't track is a seperate issue.
Is the bus fleet number tracking facility available for the new EO series from 035 to 90 ?
The present tracker page doesnt appear to include any new EO Coventry buses
Quote from: windy miller on December 27, 2022, 10:55:20 PMIs the bus fleet number tracking facility available for the new EO series from 035 to 90 ?
The present tracker page doesnt appear to include any new EO Coventry buses
Which tracker page are you referring to? They are listed on BusTimes.org under National Express Coventry:
https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-coventry/vehicles
And FYI, the fleet number prefix is "E", not "EO" :azn:
Looks like some of the Perry Barr routes isn't tracking on bustimes today.
NX 4561 not tracking on WN15 today.
CV 5/5A routes not tracking
A few Diamond buses are tracking on two routes at the same time, eg 32127 was on the 82 and 4H at 1230pm and 1232pm. (This fault was also on Diamond's own tracker.)
No NXCV vehicles tracking
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on January 09, 2023, 10:05:20 AMSeems to be the same today
Yeah cant be the BODS feed either since it's tracking NXWM
QuoteYeah cant be the BODS feed either since it's tracking NXWM
It was missing timetable data which is now fixed so hopefully back tomorrow
I have noticed the tracking info for Coventry buses on line appears to show E 058
as working a walsall service (997) on Saturday ( 7th Jan) is this a temp loan?
Quote from: windy miller on January 10, 2023, 01:36:37 AMI have noticed the tracking info for Coventry buses on line appears to show E 058
as working a walsall service (997) on Saturday ( 7th Jan) is this a temp loan?
See: https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=305914
X10 now tracking for the armchair BusTimes who claim to see buses spotters
Dribble dribble
Does anyone know how to get previous week's information?
Trying to work out where the 2011 Service 9 Walsall to Wolverhampton on Saturday should come off, seeing tonight's journey seems to have failed!
(Inconveincing sister yet again!)
Quote from: Westy on January 14, 2023, 08:41:15 PMDoes anyone know how to get previous week's information?
Trying to work out where the 2011 Service 9 Walsall to Wolverhampton on Saturday should come off, seeing tonight's journey seems to have failed!
(Inconveincing sister yet again!)
https://bustimes.org/services/9-walsall-bloxwich-via-pelsall/vehicles?date=2023-01-07
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-4737?date=2023-01-07#
Given none of those trips earlier in the day have tracked either, could be a vehicle without tracking working on today.
Quote from: 2206 on January 14, 2023, 08:51:05 PMhttps://bustimes.org/services/9-walsall-bloxwich-via-pelsall/vehicles?date=2023-01-07
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-4737?date=2023-01-07#
Given none of those trips earlier in the day have tracked either, could be a vehicle without tracking working on today.
Cheers for that, but if I'm reading the information correctly, it looks like the 2010 last Saturday didn't operate either!
Never mind, lets see what happens with the 2110 instead, which looks like 4125 at the moment!
Quote from: Westy on January 14, 2023, 08:59:18 PMCheers for that, but if I'm reading the information correctly, it looks like the 2010 last Saturday didn't operate either!
Never mind, lets see what happens with the 2110 instead, which looks like 4125 at the moment!
Could be 4737s tracking failed for a brief time/part of a trip last week. like what happened with 4909 Thursday morning where it didn't track all morning.
Just checked bus times for the 40 for today they have lost 5:05 departure but next 6:05, from Wednesbury to Friar park. But the official 5:05, 5:25 and 5:45 then 6:05 does this mean two services for today are not running.
An odd one regarding CV4889 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-4889?date=2023-01-22#map) - assume it's clock is slightly ahead of the correct or synchronised time and therefore it may show a negative value for how many seconds (or minutes) ago it's most recent ping was.
Quote from: JPC on January 22, 2023, 02:10:26 PMAn odd one regarding CV4889 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-4889?date=2023-01-22#map) - assume it's clock is slightly ahead of the correct or synchronised time and therefore it may show a negative value for how many seconds (or minutes) ago it's most recent ping was.
Did you mean 4989? 4889 isn't in use.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 22, 2023, 03:37:19 PMDid you mean 4989? 4889 isn't in use.
No, it was definitely 4889 and by coincidence the bus was taken off service/went back to depot at virtually the same time as when I post about it, perhaps the driver had complained about the clock. :grin:
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 22, 2023, 03:37:19 PMDid you mean 4989? 4889 isn't in use.
4989 is the one currently not in use as it had an RTC and is being repaired and then to enter service at WN
Quote from: JPC on January 22, 2023, 02:10:26 PMAn odd one regarding CV4889 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-4889?date=2023-01-22#map) - assume it's clock is slightly ahead of the correct or synchronised time and therefore it may show a negative value for how many seconds (or minutes) ago it's most recent ping was.
Noticed this, 4984 had same issue.
How come none of the 48a journeys don't track at all?
Quote from: Zander on January 23, 2023, 11:53:52 AMHow come none of the 48a journeys don't track at all?
Not sure, only 4 journeys tracked on Saturday.
I seem to keep losing the relevant fleet tracking page for some reason the Coventry tracker appears to be fine..no problem but I cant find the link for the Hydrogen fleet on the 51 service for some reason I can see that the majority of vehs on this service are NON H series If there are as few as 5-6 H buses on this route (weekdays) are they generally
a different set each day? or just a random choice? Thanks
Quote from: windy miller on February 02, 2023, 06:12:45 PMI seem to keep losing the relevant fleet tracking page for some reason the Coventry tracker appears to be fine..no problem but I cant find the link for the Hydrogen fleet on the 51 service for some reason I can see that the majority of vehs on this service are NON H series If there are as few as 5-6 H buses on this route (weekdays) are they generally
a different set each day? or just a random choice? Thanks
They pick any 6 or 7 from those that are fit for service on the day. All except H1001 waiting RTC repairs will venture out
Quote from: windy miller on February 02, 2023, 06:12:45 PMI seem to keep losing the relevant fleet tracking page for some reason the Coventry tracker appears to be fine..no problem but I cant find the link for the Hydrogen fleet on the 51 service for some reason I can see that the majority of vehs on this service are NON H series If there are as few as 5-6 H buses on this route (weekdays) are they generally
a different set each day? or just a random choice? Thanks
https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-west-midlands
https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-coventry
Is this right?
Diamond 21210 on the 1427 326 from Bloxwich only got as far as Dudleys Fields & looks like its 'going home' to Smethwick?
Quote from: Stu on February 02, 2023, 07:26:39 PMhttps://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-west-midlands
https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-coventry
Thanks Stu Unfortunately neither of these two options give me any individual Veh tracking information/?just service /route numbers ???
Quote from: windy miller on February 03, 2023, 04:13:36 PMThanks Stu Unfortunately neither of these two options give me any individual Veh tracking information/?just service /route numbers ???
click vehicles.
https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-west-midlands/vehicles
No nx covertry tracking or diamond
Bustimes has just had a complete outage with nothing tracking whatsoever
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 04, 2023, 12:02:50 PMBustimes has just had a complete outage with nothing tracking whatsoever
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 04, 2023, 12:02:50 PMBustimes has just had a complete outage with nothing tracking whatsoever
Server issue as nothing is tracking in the UK at the moment
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 04, 2023, 12:02:50 PMBustimes has just had a complete outage with nothing tracking whatsoever
BusTimes is fine, its the BODS feeds that are down:
https://status.bustimes.org/
54 timetable isn't showing correctly on bus times.
54 - Perry Barr - Hamstead – Diamond Bus – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/54-perry-barr-hamstead?date=2023-02-05)
Showing Sunday journeys as terminating at Handsworth Wood. Also showing weekday journey duplications, and old route into Perry Barr via Heathfield Road.
All bar three of Diamond Bus timetables have disappeared from the website. Strangely though individual buses are tracking on the general bus map.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 06, 2023, 08:30:59 PMAll bar three of Diamond Bus timetables have disappeared from the website. Strangely though individual buses are tracking on the general bus map.
I don't understand why bus times does this; whatever platform or software it operates on is obviously no bloody good...
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 06, 2023, 09:46:09 PMI don't understand why bus times does this; whatever platform or software it operates on is obviously no bloody good...
You obviously have no clue how it works then. The problem is extremely unlikely to be to do with Bustimes
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2023, 09:49:28 PMYou obviously have no clue how it works then. The problem is extremely unlikely to be to do with Bustimes
I admit I don't but it seems to happen on a very regular basis
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 06, 2023, 09:46:09 PMI don't understand why bus times does this; whatever platform or software it operates on is obviously no bloody good...
There is nothing wrong with BusTimes as a platform, any issues such as these will be down to the data feeds that BusTimes uses.
The old saying is "garbage in, garbage out" - if there are errors, mistakes or omissions in the data feeds, then it is not BusTimes' fault if it shows them.
All NXWM buses have stopped tracking.
Nothing tracking
Quote from: Solo1 on February 09, 2023, 10:53:57 AMNothing tracking
BODS data really hasn't had the best year so far has it..
Bustimes.org are tracking again...but how long for?
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 09, 2023, 11:56:46 AMBustimes.org are tracking again...but how long for?
Who really cares
Quote from: karl724223 on February 09, 2023, 12:03:50 PMWho really cares
Those who rely on it to see if and when their bus is coming, especially those where buses are often missing.
How come bus times doesn't show Dead journeys no more.
Quote from: PB2938 on February 13, 2023, 06:16:18 PMHow come bus times doesn't show Dead journeys no more.
Please use this topic for general BusTimes discussion instead of the NX reporting topic.
I guess the short answer is that for the purposes of informing bus passengers, dead journeys are not important.
Either that or the onboard systems have been configured to no longer report vehicle location data when not in service.
Quote from: Stu on February 13, 2023, 06:53:40 PMPlease use this topic for general BusTimes discussion instead of the NX reporting topic.
I guess the short answer is that for the purposes of informing bus passengers, dead journeys are not important.
Either that or the onboard systems have been configured to no longer report vehicle location data when not in service.
I think it is just the source of the information.
Traffilog where it used to come from tracks buses where ever they are. Vix is there purely to track vehicles in service
Random question but does anyone remember on bustimes when you could sort all the buses by fleet number/journey/destination that have been on a certain route?
You would do it by tapping on the "Vehicle"/"Trip"/"Destination" tab at the top but now when you tap it, nothing happens.
I jot down in my notes on my phone all the buses that have been used on my local CV 17 route for the day so can be quite annoying to go through the whole list of vehicles trying to pick out the substitutes if there is any.
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 14, 2023, 03:37:52 PMRandom question but does anyone remember on bustimes when you could sort all the buses by fleet number/journey/destination that have been on a certain route?
You would do it by tapping on the "Vehicle"/"Trip"/"Destination" tab at the top but now when you tap it, nothing happens.
I jot down in my notes on my phone all the buses that have been used on my local CV 17 route for the day so can be quite annoying to go through the whole list of vehicles trying to pick out the substitutes if there is any.
If you click on the route it should bring up a list of buses thats been on the route
https://bustimes.org/services/17-fenside-university-hospital-via-coventry/vehicles?date=2023-03-14
Heres todays so far
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 14, 2023, 03:41:44 PMIf you click on the route it should bring up a list of buses thats been on the route
https://bustimes.org/services/17-fenside-university-hospital-via-coventry/vehicles?date=2023-03-14
Heres todays so far
I know how to do that, it's just a while ago you would be able to sort by fleet number via the bold headings at the top of that page and any other route-vehicle page but you can't anymore.
If you want to have a look at someone trying to edit Bustimes, off fake information from Bustimes itself see the pending edit for 4508!
No 126 9 x10 tracking on bus times
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on April 15, 2023, 10:28:57 AMNo 126 9 x10 tracking on bus times
Actually, none of Pensnett's services are tracking at the moment.
No nx pensnet buses showing on bus times
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on April 15, 2023, 10:49:30 AMNo nx pensnet buses showing on bus times
Just repeat what is already said...
Tracking now.
BC services also weren't tracking for a brief period of time, looks like it's been back since around 5 though.
Quote from: karl724223 on April 15, 2023, 09:08:56 PMKids can sleep safely now
Indeed - and prospective bus passengers can even find out if their bus might arrive, and when (or if the driver's gone off on some other road at the whim of the operational controllers 🤣)
1800 not tracking on the 72
Quote from: BBS on May 04, 2023, 05:46:05 PM1800 not tracking on the 72
It is on the last list of vehicles with problems
QuoteIt is on the last list of vehicles with problems
I swear 1800 is one of the common ones with broken trackers
Quote from: BBS on May 04, 2023, 11:08:49 PMI swear 1800 is one of the common ones with broken trackers
I'm pretty sure you know this already, but there is a thread specifically for non-tracking vehicles, in which Tony periodically posts a list of all currently reported non-working vehicles:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4224.0
bus times is tracking random buses on random routes; apparently 2 london buses have operated on the CV 8 today
Quote from: Danthebusman on May 13, 2023, 03:40:09 PMbus times is tracking random buses on random routes; apparently 2 london buses have operated on the CV 8 today
Didn't you know today was "random bus day"?
Quote from: Danthebusman on May 13, 2023, 03:40:09 PMbus times is tracking random buses on random routes; apparently 2 london buses have operated on the CV 8 today
Apparently SLS10 was on the 450 which appears on the mapping for the 1407 as serving Cambridge! The other bus was on the 366 which apparently also serves Stoke on Trent!
Quote from: Rachvince53 on May 13, 2023, 07:11:10 PMApparently SLS10 was on the 450 which appears on the mapping for the 1407 as serving Cambridge! The other bus was on the 366 which apparently also serves Stoke on Trent!
really random occurrence. 2174's tracker is seen going on quite the marathon including London and Newcastle! https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2174?date=2023-05-13#journeys/425618861
Quote from: Danthebusman on May 13, 2023, 07:38:10 PMreally random occurrence. 2174's tracker is seen going on quite the marathon including London and Newcastle! https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2174?date=2023-05-13#journeys/425618861
and 4875 showing as a 192 to Tottenham Hale.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278410?date=2023-05-13#journeys/425628735
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2023, 07:44:33 PMand 4875 showing as a 192 to Tottenham Hale.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278410?date=2023-05-13#journeys/425628735
That would have been a very tight squeeze in parts of N18, of that I can assure you......
NatEx coaches not tracking-and haven't been since Sunday.
I expect it probably will be, but why are some people so quick to mark vehicles as withdrawn?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scnh-36946/history
Got to be first!
Just see Wikipedia whenever something significant happens. GOT TO BE THE ONE TO ADD THE INFORMATION!
WN15 timetable not showing at present although buses are tracking. Presumably a data feed error.
a lot of vehicles struggling to track at the moment
no NX vehicles tracking
Could it be something to do with the name change ?
Quote from: Mayfield on June 22, 2023, 07:03:20 AMCould it be something to do with the name change ?
No, it will just be a data feed generation error.
Poor poor BusTimes 😂
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 22, 2023, 05:23:25 AMno NX vehicles tracking
I hope it'll be fixed by tomorrow.
Quote from: markcf83 on June 22, 2023, 09:49:22 AMI hope it'll be fixed by tomorrow.
Anyone would think they weren't running!
Quote from: Straightlines on June 22, 2023, 12:06:51 PMAnyone would think they weren't running!
The bus stops were counting down NX and TGB departures normally this morning as well. Showing live times
There tracking again now
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 22, 2023, 01:11:36 PMThere tracking again now
Excellent news,given I'll be in the West Midlands tomorrow and Saturday.
Can all the BusTimes check in so we know your ok after this mornings hiccup
Hope all Veg is okay , no NXWM buses are tracking atm
EDIT:
Phew it was only down for less then 10 mins
Usually 3 buses per hour on the NX 40 just checked bus times and only one bus tracking , which indicates only one bus in service which means hefty wait and more people complaining about unreliable service
Quote from: Ginger66 on June 27, 2023, 06:01:01 PMUsually 3 buses per hour on the NX 40 just checked bus times and only one bus tracking , which indicates only one bus in service which means hefty wait and more people complaining about unreliable service
Only if you're spotting in your bedroom.
The previous posts states problems with Bustimes!
Quote from: Ginger66 on June 27, 2023, 06:01:01 PMUsually 3 buses per hour on the NX 40 just checked bus times and only one bus tracking , which indicates only one bus in service which means hefty wait and more people complaining about unreliable service
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2023, 07:33:14 PMOnly if you're spotting in your bedroom.
The previous posts states problems with Bustimes!
Plus there may be buses operating that service which aren't tracking for whatever reason.
Quote from: Ginger66 on June 27, 2023, 06:01:01 PMUsually 3 buses per hour on the NX 40 just checked bus times and only one bus tracking , which indicates only one bus in service which means hefty wait and more people complaining about unreliable service
Might not be a wait at all, Diamond also run on there.
Bus times is messed up barely anything tracking now and when things were tracking vehicles would only update every 10 minutes
QuoteBus times is messed up barely anything tracking now and when things were tracking vehicles would only update every 10 minutes
There's a fault at the Bus Open Data Service
Quote from: BODSHello,
This is an update to let you know how progress is being made regarding availability of the Bus Open Data Service.
The availability of the site is being monitored carefully and whilst we can see the experience has significantly improved for many users, we know that some users are unable to consistently publish or download data.
The BODS team continue to work to improve the availability of the service and we'll keep you updated throughout and on an ongoing basis.
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 28, 2023, 08:45:33 PMThere's a fault at the Bus Open Data Service
How long will it take to get fixed
I see once again, someone on here, and it is someone on here as they are putting links on, is so keen to change bustimes, they are not only putting buses into new livery while they are still out in service, but also changing them to the wrong one.
Whoever changed 2070, why can't you follow the rules bustimes clearly gives and not change liveries until they are done?
Walsall are using it on the 4 again today, even though it was supposed to go into paint.
BODS seems to be working a lot more reliably today
multiple CV services (7, 8, 9, 17A, 18) not tracking, don't know if it's the same elsewhere
Everything has stopped tracking again
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 05, 2023, 12:37:45 PMEverything has stopped tracking again
It went for about 10 minutes, cry me a river...
Has the driver of 6719 put the wrong details in the machine, as Bustimes is showing X51, but he's over Streetly area?
Nothing tracking apart from stagecoach
I see Bustimes has had an update, there is now finally a dark mode and also a different layout when viewing vehicles.
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 04, 2023, 03:08:17 PMThere are also pages when viewing vehicles and also viewing vehicles that have been used on a certain route.
https://bustimes.org/services/49-solihull-northfield-via-maypole/vehicles (Wouldn't post screenshot so shared link instead)
I presume you mean this? That's always been there. But was only a small tab at the bottom of the page if I remember correctly so that's a improvement.
Bustimes has gone dark mode for me and i can't change it back. has this happened to anyone else
Bus times has gone shit. Why did they have to mess about with it for..
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on August 05, 2023, 12:07:35 AMBustimes has gone dark mode for me and i can't change it back. has this happened to anyone else
Screenshot 2023-08-05 at 09-41-33 bustimes.org 🚍 on Twitter.png
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on August 05, 2023, 12:07:35 AMBustimes has gone dark mode for me and i can't change it back. has this happened to anyone else
Yes me too.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2023, 07:47:28 AMBus times has gone shit. Why did they have to mess about with it for..
I reckon Bustimes was in its peak (design-wise) in 2021/22, ever since it's just slowly got worse but honestly I don't mind this dark mode although it definitely looks weird after 2+ years of light mode.
Dark mode has been disabled, we'll see whether it's temporary or permanent.
No nx tracking
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on August 08, 2023, 12:38:57 PMNo nx tracking
There's some maintenance on the tracking kit, they will be missing for 30 min to an hor
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2023, 12:46:06 PMThere's some maintenance on the tracking kit, they will be missing for 30 min to an hor
Okay thank you
No Nx tracking this morning!
OK
Quote from: Wumpty on August 09, 2023, 12:40:08 PM@18WilliamsLi do you have a shred of evidence to support this libellous comment? Clearly you have never worked in the bus industry, or know the mechanics of how it is regulated and monitored.
I would suggest apologising first then deleting this comment.
@Stu @winston @Tony - how much more does the forum have to endure these comments and conduct?
OK Let's get a couple of thing straight here.
Facts are allowed on here.
Opinions are allowed on here.
Passing opinions off as facts is not allowed. Lying is not allowed. If you don't want to be removed from here
@18WilliamsLi you need to follow those basic rules. On facebook you have loads of photographs of yourself catching Pensnett buses and also posting pretending to be a driver. Lying is one of my personal pet hates.
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on August 09, 2023, 06:09:24 PMI'm not pretending to be a driver I ride on them is that not allowed ??
One of your posts is a photo clearly from the drivers seat with a warning light on the dashboard saying you had reset the vehicle three times.
One more lie on here like the 'I don't catch Pensnett buses' or the 'Pensnett driver waited 30 minutes for the West Bromwich 87 to leave' and you will be removed from this forum. A lot of members are getting fed up.
Take this as a final warning
Note to all members
I have removed a number of posts from this thread as it was clearly going off-topic, and the usual suspects have been stirring things up I see.
I will once again politely remind all members of the Forum Rules (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4859.0) that we have in place here, and to keep all discussions civilised and 'on-topic'.
I take a dim view of "baiting and trolling", and we won't put up with it on this forum.
Thank you all.
Have noticed an odd one in Coventry where the Weekday 1640 11 to Leamington and the 1640 18 to Tile Hill South is tracking as the other service, seemingly due to the trips have swapped running boards since Wednesday.
Cv 2162 tracking says that it's of the coast of Geneva
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 14, 2023, 10:20:41 AMCv 2162 tracking says that it's of the coast of Geneva
Perhaps the driver was thinking about their holiday plans!
Interesting 'effect' on Broad Lane in Bloxwich has 2 X51's ploughing through someone's front garden instead of the roadway!
Same effect with a 25 down the Stafford Road as well.
Good job we know it's not like that in real life!
Is there currently a problem with walsall hydro H1009??? Does it have an engine problem or maybe accident damage??? Maybe it simply doesn't track anymore and runs unlisted??
last service shown August 8th???
Hello, anybody know what's going on with bus 4882, it says its tracking as the number 5 to solihull and has been ever since stuck on 06:55 and not once have I seen it been tracked properly. Any comments about this would be appreciated!
Quote from: Zainpow3012 on September 05, 2023, 11:26:09 PMHello, anybody know what's going on with bus 4882, it says its tracking as the number 5 to solihull and has been ever since stuck on 06:55 and not once have I seen it been tracked properly. Any comments about this would be appreciated!
It's at Walsall being painted, so won't be seen in service:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=316580
Tracking as on the 5 is clearly a glitch as AG don't have any of this bus type.
Cheers for the info, I defo thought that that kind of a bus wouldn't be at AG depot anyway.
According to bus times 7506 left john Wilmot school on service 814 but never made it to Stockland Green, which meant the 907 service from City at 1620 didn't run either. This school journey needs to be removed from the 907 service, it happens too often
Please note that certain bustimes.org timetables have not yet been updated and are still showing Summer holiday times, eg the schooldays only journey on WN16 which runs from Wombourne to Stourbridge is not shown,
The diamond A15 timetable hasn't been updated as well
Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2023, 08:25:05 AMQuote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 06, 2023, 07:57:42 AM4762 on loan to Wolverhampton this morning Currently on 16
More internet watching bullsh1t
Officially 18williamsLi was correct with his observation. A vehicle that was broadcasting PN boards the day before, is now found to be broadcasting WN boards on its first trip the following day. Hence a move from PN to WN is the logical conclusion. Is it 18williamsLi fault the vehicle is posting duff data?
If anyone bothered to check why 18williamsLi posted this comment, they would have discovered a new issue with WMT Ltd timetables exported in transXchange format for routes operated by multiple garages.
Checking the N16 timetable WMT Ltd uploaded to BODS you will find the Mon-Fri 0736 dep from The New Inn to Stourbridge, the first trip for board PN610 is missing. Along with the entire Saturday timetable, which either suggests the entire route is worked by PN on Saturday – or sloppy WMT Ltd admin forgetting to include the Saturday timetable in the upload.
Bustimes compiles their NXWM and NXC timetables using the data WMT Ltd upload to BODS. A quick check on bustimes, would have shown/confirmed, the trip is missing (https://bustimes.org/services/16-wolverhampton-stourbridge-via-kingswinford).
With no timetable data for this trip, the solution WMT Ltd have put in place (updated on 8th Aug) to meet their BODS obligation, fails to provide the correct Block Ref (PN610) and journey number for this missing trip. Where instead, the vehicle data posted to BODS is showing board WN1507 journey 13, which is the 0610 dep from Wolverhampton to Stourbridge: A WN board, operated by a vehicle currently based/loaned to WN.
Is it any wonder bustimes is confused? (https://bustimes.org/services/16-wolverhampton-stourbridge-via-kingswinford/vehicles?date=2023-09-06#journeys/473653066) And so would any other system relying on data supplied by BODS, that informs joe public, who matter more than bus spotters. If bad data goes in, bad data comes out.
This was not an issue before the WMT LTD system update on 8th Aug.
Other timetables affected are 701 (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/701-leamore-st-thomas-more-school) and 881 (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/881-walsall-barr-beacon-school), when checked on bustimes (https://bustimes.org/operators/national-express-west-midlands), to view data WMT Ltd have uploaded to BODS, shows missing WN and WA turns respectively.
X8 and N79 services have had WB turns in the past, but at present WMT Ltd Timetables uploaded to BODS state WN is the only garage allocated to these routes.
This error poses a problem for any system that uses BODS data to monitor WMT Ltd vehicle garage allocations, especially post WMT Ltd system update on 8th Aug, where only the Block Ref is now available to monitor vehicle allocation for WMT Ltd vehicles. If the vehicle broadcasts the wrong Block Ref, then an incorrect allocation will be recorded. As seen on bustimes.
So, how long will it take WMT Ltd to fix this issue and publish the correct N16 timetable that ensure vehicles report correct Boards and journey numbers? 24,48 hours? 1 week? 1 month? When 3rd Parties involved in the WMT Ltd solution to meet their BODS obligation, update their datasets?
Of note, the W9 went off line on 17th April 2023, and it took 43 days to fix the issue, to get vehicle locations published on BODS – where during this time WMT Ltd would be failing to meet their BODS obligation.
It has taken 2.5 years for WMT Ltd to finally publish a fully compliant BODS vehicle dataset; from 8th Aug 2023 - that ensures there is no need for data consumers to apply custom hacks to get the data to process as BODS intended.
What does this say about WMT Ltd commitment to meet their BODS obligation? To ensure people/companies/groups (like bustimes) who provide applications to help bus users (that WMT Ltd refuse to provide to their own customers) with the provision of real-time data and statistical analysis of service performance, can do so reliably using open source data via a framework provided by UK Gov, which relies on full co-operation from operators.
There is nothing worse than providing inaccurate data to the general public. Where unreliability is a key reason for people to seek alternative modes of transport. To then see senior WMT Ltd employees dismiss this as "Internet Bullsh1t"?
If it were not for people like 18williamsLi posting these alerts, then how long would this fault remained undetected?
The next time someone posts an observation, please don't automatically dismiss it as bullsh1t, check it first, as there may be a valid reason why that comment was posted.
Does anybody really care other than BusTimes watchers or ALFs
I know I don't
I see a bedroom spotter has been changing Bustimes again.
I have changed 4908 & 4946 back to the correct livery after someone had changed them both to Elf overall advert livery which neither carries and not due to carry. Elf only booked one bus.
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2023, 08:20:16 PMI see a bedroom spotter has been changing Bustimes again.
I have changed 4908 & 4946 back to the correct livery after someone had changed them both to Elf overall advert livery which neither carries and not due to carry. Elf only booked one bus.
Maybe he wanted his own ALF livery on them 😂
Quote from: karl724223 on October 17, 2023, 08:37:44 AMMaybe he wanted his own ALF livery on them 😂
PMSL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Has NX decided not to track tonight?
Edit:never mind
No WN school services have tracked so far this week
Quote from: BNH2004 on November 08, 2023, 02:54:21 PMNo WN school services have tracked so far this week
Service 751 Bilston - Smestow School via Penn tracked. However that service is operated by West Bromwich garage so perhaps its an issue with WN garage vehicles.
Looks like the Wn 9 is getting mixed up with the Pn 9!
(At least one bus is 20 mins late, as my sister's on it!)
Quote from: Westy on November 29, 2023, 04:50:29 PMLooks like the Wn 9 is getting mixed up with the Pn 9!
(At least one bus is 20 mins late, as my sister's on it!)
Looking through the list of services to Wolverhampton, only Arriva's 9 is listed! In fact the WN 9 timetable has disappeared from bustimes.org.
Quote from: Westy on November 29, 2023, 04:50:29 PMLooks like the Wn 9 is getting mixed up with the Pn 9!
(At least one bus is 20 mins late, as my sister's on it!)
Quote from: Rachvince53 on November 29, 2023, 05:03:55 PMLooking through the list of services to Wolverhampton, only Arriva's 9 is listed! In fact the WN 9 timetable has disappeared from bustimes.org.
The PN 11/11As timetable is also missing with 11 tracking with WN11 and 11A tracking with AG11A
Let's Go (Travel Express) has not tracked since 4 Dec.
Went on to Bustimes.org this morning. I couldn't find the 11/11a(Wal/Dud) services listed
Quote from: Jay71 on December 06, 2023, 10:20:28 AMWent on to Bustimes.org this morning. I couldn't find the 11/11a(Wal/Dud) services listed
They're merged together with the main outer circle page: https://bustimes.org/services/11a-birmingham-outer-circle-anticlockwise#
Looks like it's a bug of some sort, either with bus times or with the data.
Quote from: mesub on December 06, 2023, 07:00:26 PMThey're merged together with the main outer circle page: https://bustimes.org/services/11a-birmingham-outer-circle-anticlockwise#
Looks like it's a bug of some sort, either with bus times or with the data.
Both those & the 9 recently moved depots from Walsall to elsewhere.
Is it connected?
Quote from: mesub on December 06, 2023, 07:00:26 PMLooks like it's a bug of some sort, either with bus times or with the data.
It'll be an error in the data feed, route number will be coded incorrectly.
Stagecoach vehicles not currently tracking.
https://x.com/StagecoachMids/status/1733807083185652169
Seems only Stagecoach buses are tracking in Midlands. Same down here in North Somerset, no First Buses tracking.
It was quite fascinating to see the driver of 4736 yesterday revving the bus for a good 10 seconds like crazy! I'm fairly sure it was out of frustration towards the disruptive school kids upstairs...
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on December 12, 2023, 11:00:17 PMIt was quite fascinating to see the driver of 4736 yesterday revving the bus for a good 10 seconds like crazy! I'm fairly sure it was out of frustration towards the disruptive school kids upstairs...
What an earth does that have to do with BusTimes? The driver was most likely revving it to see it has power and is able to pull off.
Quote from: Jack on December 12, 2023, 11:55:04 PMWhat an earth does that have to do with BusTimes? The driver was most likely revving it to see it has power and is able to pull off.
Sorry I wasn't sure where to put it. And I'm fairly sure it was out of frustration as the bus was halfway through its journey and the driver was definitely certain it had power. Also just for the future, where would I put something like this?
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on December 13, 2023, 06:47:52 AMSorry I wasn't sure where to put it. And I'm fairly sure it was out of frustration as the bus was halfway through its journey and the driver was definitely certain it had power. Also just for the future, where would I put something like this?
Would've thought the individual depot thread personally?
Then again, Ive always had an issue with the likes of the Noteworthy Workings thread, where you're expected to follow conversations in 2 different threads, which is why I hardly use it!
Quote from: Jack on December 12, 2023, 11:55:04 PMWhat an earth does that have to do with BusTimes? The driver was most likely revving it to see it has power and is able to pull off.
have you even seen the video?
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on December 13, 2023, 06:47:52 AMAlso just for the future, where would I put something like this?
I don't know, but if you take the time to have a browse around this forum then you'll find a more appropriate place.
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 13, 2023, 04:31:22 PMhave you even seen the video?
What does that do with Bustimes that should probably be put on the Garage thread
Quote from: Stu on December 13, 2023, 07:23:25 PMI don't know, but if you take the time to have a browse around this forum then you'll find a more appropriate place.
Thank you. The reason I didn't put it in the garage thread is because I thought it wasn't really important information. But if you don't know where it should go, then surely that must mean there isn't really anywhere suitable for it? Once again I apologise and it won't happen again.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 13, 2023, 09:56:28 PMWhat does that do with Bustimes that should probably be put on the Garage thread
I already saw jacks post theres no need to copy him
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on December 14, 2023, 06:46:22 AMThank you. The reason I didn't put it in the garage thread is because I thought it wasn't really important information. But if you don't know where it should go, then surely that must mean there isn't really anywhere suitable for it? Once again I apologise and it won't happen again.
Garage threads arent for important things only btw
Its for conversation about anything that relates to the garage so vehicles and routes belonging to it
If in doubt anyway just start a new thread under whatever company it belongs to
Quote from: EK40 on December 14, 2023, 09:29:44 AMGarage threads arent for important things only btw
Its for conversation about anything that relates to the garage so vehicles and routes belonging to it
If in doubt anyway just start a new thread under whatever company it belongs to
Understood, thank you for letting me know.
Tracking history maps now seem to be removed rather quickly - around 18-24 hours after the trip. :sad:
Why do buses no longer track on dead run was good when they tracked on dead run
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 25, 2023, 11:59:00 AMWhy do buses no longer track on dead run was good when they tracked on dead run
I agree, as I could track the likely buses for the 9 for my sister!
51's been removed from bustimes.
CV 85, 85B, 85S & 85H coming under NXWM & NXC
Quote from: Jack on December 25, 2023, 05:16:13 PM51's been removed from bustimes.
Just checked and the 51 is there. It shows the timetable starting Wednesday though and the Boxing Day timetable is not there.
Why are a load of Coventry routes on the NXWM page? Namely 25s, 14s and 85s (which have been there for a while)
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 26, 2023, 11:49:49 AMWhy are a load of Coventry routes on the NXWM page? Namely 25s, 14s and 85s (which have been there for a while)
The timetable data (or some of it) is tagged to the 'incorrect' operator, we can only hope they'll be corrected within a few weeks.
Quote from: JPC on December 16, 2023, 08:27:17 PMTracking history maps now seem to be removed rather quickly - around 18-24 hours after the trip. :sad:
Luckily this was just a temporary blip lasting about a day - as when planning a trip I do like to see how well a particular journey has performed over the past week/month.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 25, 2023, 11:59:00 AMWhy do buses no longer track on dead run was good when they tracked on dead run
Because for the purposes of what BODS (Bus Open Data Service) was setup/created for, passengers do not need to know that information.
Operators are only required to show vehicle locations of buses that are in general public service.
Quote from: Stu on December 26, 2023, 07:43:20 PMBecause for the purposes of what BODS (Bus Open Data Service) was setup/created for, passengers do not need to know that information.
Operators are only required to show vehicle locations of buses that are in general public service.
But a lot of bus companies show dead runs. Shame Nx can't go back to showing dead runs
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 26, 2023, 09:06:16 PMBut a lot of bus companies show dead runs. Shame Nx can't go back to showing dead runs
It's mainly just Stagecoach that show dead runs, haven't noticed any other operator.
It's quite obvious we the passengers & the bus companies / BODS will have to agree to disagree on whether DEAD runs should be shown on screen.
It certainly would answer partly why certain vehicles seem to disappear 'off the grid' on arrival at terminus, as I've noticed on many an occasion on behalf of my sister when tracking the late evening 9's, so she can decide whether to catch the bus or if the bus failed to show, get a taxi instead!
I've watched said vehicles instead of doing the return journey, drive up the road to the depot instead & no sign of a replacement vehicle, or the replacement vehicle runs DEAD to start service from the other end instead.
It's as if they want to hide the evidence.
The only time dead runs show are if the Driver left the Ticket Machine still active so for example I had caught the last bus to Darlaston on the 37 think it was an Omnilink think it was 1886 can't remember I got home and was just checking that was the last departure and it was but 1886 was still tracking on the map but was off route assuming the Driver hadn't turned off the Ticket Machine. Other than that I don't need to know a bus is dead the chances are If I'm looking to see where a 34 is and a bus is Dead it's going to pass me showing not in service.
Quote from: Danthebusman on December 26, 2023, 09:30:16 PMIt's mainly just Stagecoach that show dead runs, haven't noticed any other operator.
000 is Nuneaton's most frequent service!
No X10 tracking all day today on BusTimes
Omg help what we going to do panic stations
Was just about to report 4973 as not Tracking on the 74 but the 74 isn't Tracking at all
Hmm, if Bustimes is correct, then 6769, which Im on at the moment, started his journey roughly 10 to 15 mins early, realised his mistake & waited for time at Pargeter St.
Bustimes has him down for the 529 leaving Walsall at 0706, but actually left at 0652, which is more or less a normal time for departure for me, so wasnt clocked initially
BusTimes been updated for Dudley tower street stops
I will need to get from Wolves Train station to Sidings Close Wednesfield way WV113DR
Sometime this week Can I get a bus or a tram from the rail station ? or maybe a bus from the Bus station ? If you have local knowledge I would appreciate your advice . Many thanks
Quote from: windy miller on January 17, 2024, 04:33:18 AMI will need to get from Wolves Train station to Sidings Close Wednesfield way WV113DR
Sometime this week Can I get a bus or a tram from the rail station ? or maybe a bus from the Bus station ? If you have local knowledge I would appreciate your advice . Many thanks
Looks like a fair walk from the nearest bus stop, if the Google Map is correct.
Quote from: windy miller on January 17, 2024, 04:33:18 AMI will need to get from Wolves Train station to Sidings Close Wednesfield way WV113DR
Sometime this week Can I get a bus or a tram from the rail station ? or maybe a bus from the Bus station ? If you have local knowledge I would appreciate your advice . Many thanks
The nearest stop appears to be Bentley Bridge Retail Park, served by buses 9 (to Walsall), 53 and 65. All depart from the bus station.
You should alight in Bentley Bridge at the stop by the car parks cross the road and head in the same direction as the bus will take as far as the next island. Turn right into Backhouse Lane and cross the road. Continue down Backhouse Lane to the island and then turn left along Wednesfield Way. Sidings Close is about halfway along this road on the left.
Hope this helps.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 17, 2024, 12:24:05 PMThe nearest stop appears to be Bentley Bridge Retail Park, served by buses 9 (to Walsall), 53 and 65. All depart from the bus station.
You should alight in Bentley Bridge at the stop by the car parks cross the road and head in the same direction as the bus will take as far as the next island. Turn right into Backhouse Lane and cross the road. Continue down Backhouse Lane to the island and then turn left along Wednesfield Way. Sidings Close is about halfway along this road on the left.
Hope this helps.
Many thanks I had no problem finding the tool station
Can someone tell me if the Demo bus which was in use in 2022 ie 4798
is still available for use on our system or has it been returned to Wrights?
Quote from: windy miller on January 17, 2024, 05:04:42 PMMany thanks I had no problem finding the tool station
Glad to help.
NX bus vehicles not showing on the map but can see what vehicles are on what route from the fleetlist
Edit: Vehicle now showing on the map
Quote from: BNH2004 on February 02, 2024, 06:49:09 AMNX bus vehicles not showing on the map but can see what vehicles are on what route from the fleetlist
Thanks. Was very confused why I couldn't see any
Does anyone know if Carolean Coaches are going to be put on bustimes? Because of current they aren't showing on there and they take over running the 19 from Next Sunday (11/02)
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 04, 2024, 06:36:53 PMDoes anyone know if Carolean Coaches are going to be put on bustimes? Because of current they aren't showing on there and they take over running the 19 from Next Sunday (11/02)
It is not up to BusTimes to do this. Once Carolean's timetable data is available in the BODS feeds, then they will show on BusTimes. I presume this will be done under arrangement with TfWM.
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 04, 2024, 06:36:53 PMDoes anyone know if Carolean Coaches are going to be put on bustimes? Because of current they aren't showing on there and they take over running the 19 from Next Sunday (11/02)
Give them a chance to get a second veichle first then the revelant Ticket Machines.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 05, 2024, 10:14:04 AMGive them a chance to get a second veichle first then the revelant Ticket Machines.
Well they've got 1 bus already an ex Vision Bus Enviro 200
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 05, 2024, 10:53:46 AMWell they've got 1 bus already an ex Vision Bus Enviro 200
They need 2 for the 19 and possibly 1 more or 2 more Spares
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 05, 2024, 01:39:28 PMThey need 2 for the 19 and possibly 1 more or 2 more Spares
And possibly a glazier on speed dial.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 05, 2024, 04:04:22 PMAnd possibly a glazier on speed dial.
Yeah or a lifetime supply of Windows and Door Glass plus other Glass/Body Parts that could be broken
You've seen the pictures of striking miners back in the 80's being driven into work in buses with grills on the windows.
Why dont they put grills on dedicated buses for the route?
QuoteYeah or a lifetime supply of Windows and Door Glass plus other Glass/Body Parts that could be broken
They could call Gavin, technician for Autoglass and his special resin
Could someone explain to me why Centre bus 841 says on Bustimes last tracked 25th October but on the history it says 09th December
This thread has gone way of topic now
Since 29th January Coventry service 11 isn't tracking on evening journeys, same occurs with service 12X but only on Sunday evenings.
Don't think there are any WA buses tracking on Bustimes today... Have I missed something or is it just an error?
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 18, 2024, 10:15:39 AMDon't think there are any WA buses tracking on Bustimes today... Have I missed something or is it just an error?
No WN or PN vehicles tracking either
No services on 59(Wolves) seem to be tracking
Quote from: Jay71 on February 20, 2024, 03:11:19 PMNo services on 59(Wolves) seem to be tracking
Wolverhampton, Walsall and Pensnett aren't Tracking as a whole unless it was fixed after I looked this morning. It is a timetable issue
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 20, 2024, 04:59:59 PMWolverhampton, Walsall and Pensnett are Tracking as a whole unless it was fixed after I looked this morning. It is a timetable issue
Pensnett buses not tracking
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 20, 2024, 04:59:59 PMWolverhampton, Walsall and Pensnett are Tracking as a whole unless it was fixed after I looked this morning. It is a timetable issue
Does anyone know when the issue will be fixed
Quote from: karl724223 on February 20, 2024, 05:07:27 PMPensnett buses not tracking
I did mean to put Aren't autocorrect
Seems to be an issue with info from whichever company provides tracking for NX as they are not tracking on Google Maps either.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 20, 2024, 08:25:34 PMSeems to be an issue with info from whichever company provides tracking for NX as they are not tracking on Google Maps either.
I clicked on the 997 earlier and it showed it's departures but not if it was late or early, but all other services that aren't affected by this issue are normal
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 20, 2024, 08:37:02 PMI clicked on the 997 earlier and it showed it's departures but not if it was late or early, but all other services that aren't affected by this issue are normal
That's what I meant, Google Maps are only providing scheduled times, not real time info. That's why I think it's a third party issue.
Now seem to be tracking as normal
Nothing Tracking on WA39 Although I suspect as this issue with WA, WN and PN was fixed at night when the 39 doesn't run this may be affected by this
I've recently noticed something different on bustimes.org. When you click on 'track this bus' it never says if the bus is running late or early. Noticed this last night. The same thing has been happening today
Quote from: Jay71 on March 04, 2024, 12:46:46 PMI've recently noticed something different on bustimes.org. When you click on 'track this bus' it never says if the bus is running late or early. Noticed this last night. The same thing has been happening today
You can track the timekeeping by clicking on the bus's destination on the map, eg 16 Stourbridge. This will then show whether its on time or not.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 04, 2024, 01:14:58 PMYou can track the timekeeping by clicking on the bus's destination on the map, eg 16 Stourbridge. This will then show whether its on time or not.
But they have they changed things around?
Quote from: Jay71 on March 04, 2024, 02:03:37 PMBut they have they changed things around?
Possibly. Certainly its more of a faff to check on timekeeping.
Looks like some routes, namely the express routes, school routes and 9xx, have disappeared off bustimes for NXWM.
Only CV51 tracking out of all NXCV services, very unusual.
Quick visit to the NXWM Latest Changes page to see the latest official updates. Loads of nonsense about smashed windscreens, bicycle spaces, random vehicle removals. Won't be bothering with that again.
Quote from: cardew on May 04, 2024, 07:11:16 AMQuick visit to the NXWM Latest Changes page to see the latest official updates. Loads of nonsense about smashed windscreens, bicycle spaces, random vehicle removals. Won't be bothering with that again.
i see what you mean - someone has a very overactive imagination, or NXWM have a lot of open top work coming up!
Well Birmingham is in need of an open-top tour bus to tour the roadworks.
Why have all the long term out of use vehicles suddenly lost the last tracing data i.e.
Chaserider 62 & 630
Centrebus 324
First Worcester 35152
Quote from: Mayfield on May 12, 2024, 10:39:54 PMWhy have all the long term out of use vehicles suddenly lost the last tracing data i.e.
Chaserider 62 & 630
Centrebus 324
First Worcester 35152
Because its only retained for a certain period.
That doesn't stack up as they are all different dates from 11 months to 6 months
Bus times has changed so now only experts can make edits, weird....
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on May 20, 2024, 11:35:43 AMBus times has changed so now only experts can make edits, weird....
It's not weird when you see some off the changes admin have had to reverse
It's better this way now stops the kids putting idiotic changes and insulting comments
Quote from: Tony on May 20, 2024, 12:11:39 PMIt's not weird when you see some off the changes admin have had to reverse
That's understandable to be honest, so many spammers.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on May 20, 2024, 11:35:43 AMBus times has changed so now only experts can make edits, weird....
@Ingleboro261F I don't know why you posted that in the 'Vehicles Away From Home Garage".
Split and moved into the BusTimes general topic.
Please refer to the Forum Rules regarding finding an appropriate topic to post in.
The Changes aren't silly when children are hacking or pretending to be drivers here to say that some NX's plattys are open Top. When rubbish like that is posted editing Tony's updates and other NX Drivers or staff updates. Then only Tony and other NX staff should be allowed to edit it makes sense they know more than most of us. I wouldn't have known for example 4696 was on loan until I've seen it here from Tony himself. Or until we see the Veichle ourselves
There does need to be some open top buses though, to show the sites of Birmingham and the Black Country (sorry Sandy Lane, Coventry is getting ignored again).
OBC have even got electric open top buses in use in Oxford, although I've only ever seen them when it has been pissing it down.
Quote from: ellspurs on May 21, 2024, 01:56:54 PMThere does need to be some open top buses though, to show the sites of Birmingham and the Black Country (sorry Sandy Lane, Coventry is getting ignored again).
Its OK, we are used to this situation!
Perhaps if open tops ever come about, Coventry could borrow one to show the TfWM people where we are?
Quote from: ellspurs on May 21, 2024, 01:56:54 PMThere does need to be some open top buses though, to show the sites of Birmingham and the Black Country (sorry Sandy Lane, Coventry is getting ignored again).
OBC have even got electric open top buses in use in Oxford, although I've only ever seen them when it has been pissing it down.
What would you show you from an open top that couldn't be done from an old disused Euro 6 Double Decker
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 21, 2024, 02:32:00 PMWhat would you show you from an open top that couldn't be done from an old disused Euro 6 Double Decker
Well the Glasgow open toppers attract a good crowd and bring enough in to support 9 brand new electric open toppers, and Glasgow has never been known as the biggest tourist attraction city in Scotland.
Here's a photo I took last week of one almost full
https://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Craig/12409.html
Either there's a problem with Bustimes, as only one out of 3 326's is showing, or there's been 2 breakdowns today
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2024, 03:16:59 PMEither there's a problem with Bustimes, as only one out of 3 326's is showing, or there's been 2 breakdowns today
I've noticed this on other services and that quite a few vehicles stuck in the same position on the map for between 5 and 15 minutes at a time before updating
Quote from: BNH2004 on May 21, 2024, 03:43:37 PMI've noticed this on other services and that quite a few vehicles stuck in the same position on the map for between 5 and 15 minutes at a time before updating
Well luckily, the bus I want, is the one still tracking!
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 21, 2024, 02:32:00 PMWhat would you show you from an open top that couldn't be done from an old disused Euro 6 Double Decker
The fabulous delights of Birmingham/Black Country, with the opportunity of getting soaked in the process! The diesel particle filter regenerator does get a bit stinky so it'd need to be electric.
National Express West Midlands 11C Outer Circle has suddenly been removed from bus org
Only the 11A Outer Circle tracks on the 11A to Walsall and Dudley
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on May 22, 2024, 12:50:51 PMNational Express West Midlands 11C Outer Circle has suddenly been removed from bus org
Only the 11A Outer Circle tracks on the 11A to Walsall and Dudley
But it the Walsall 11A suddenly has 27 buses running on it, even if 21 seem to have strayed into Birmingham!
Word of warning today a load of pn buses ticket machines might not be tracking properly as they have to be programmed manually
See Bustimes.org has got a mention in the new edition of Computer Active magazine!
Stagecoach (everywhere nationwide) currently tracking without service numbers
Quote from: JPC on May 24, 2024, 09:55:07 AMStagecoach (everywhere nationwide) currently tracking without service numbers
London also having trouble this morning due to problems with iBus
Quote from: JPC on May 24, 2024, 09:55:07 AMStagecoach (everywhere nationwide) currently tracking without service numbers
All back to normal today.
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on May 22, 2024, 12:50:51 PMNational Express West Midlands 11C Outer Circle has suddenly been removed from bus org
Only the 11A Outer Circle tracks on the 11A to Walsall and Dudley
It looks like a BODS data set update from 21/5 has caused this. Hopefully this has been picked up and is being worked on as I need to use the outer circle today.
Data Set ID: 13623Name: National Express West Midlands_Coleshill_Aldridge_20240107_11 Description: Outer Circle 11A / 11C
I was given a list of (pres) new vehicles which have been/will be allocated to the
WM Fleet I cant see any reference to these vehs on tony list(s)
The number series I was given ran from 38-04 YP17 FLH up to 53-135 YS65 ATN
there appears to be a total of 20 Vehs allocated to Aston (Park Lane )
Most of the registrations appear to be Local are they genuine or previously withdrawn?
Quote from: windy miller on May 29, 2024, 03:18:15 AMI was given a list of (pres) new vehicles which have been/will be allocated to the
WM Fleet I cant see any reference to these vehs on tony list(s)
The number series I was given ran from 38-04 YP17 FLH up to 53-135 YS65 ATN
there appears to be a total of 20 Vehs allocated to Aston (Park Lane )
Most of the registrations appear to be Local are they genuine or previously withdrawn?
See the NETS fleet list:
https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/NETS.html
Quote from: windy miller on May 29, 2024, 03:18:15 AMI was given a list of (pres) new vehicles which have been/will be allocated to the
WM Fleet I cant see any reference to these vehs on tony list(s)
The number series I was given ran from 38-04 YP17 FLH up to 53-135 YS65 ATN
there appears to be a total of 20 Vehs allocated to Aston (Park Lane )
Most of the registrations appear to be Local are they genuine or previously withdrawn?
They have sold and/or returned over 100 vehicles so far this year so it would be difficult to ascertain a concrete fleetlist currently. On top of 2 depots closing and 1 opening, fleet is all over the place.
The 891 services not tracking on Bustimes, even though the buses are showing on the page
Quote from: Jay71 on June 17, 2024, 11:09:24 AMThe 891 services not tracking on Bustimes, even though the buses are showing on the page
Tracking now.
New Diamond service 303 not tracking or even listed. Routes for 63/64 shown serving two stops (Victoria Street and Skinner Street) which no longer exist. Presumably old data from when Diamond ran these before.
Is anything wrong with the 24 Merry Hill - Dudley tracker? No buses tracking on the map
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on June 25, 2024, 02:31:46 PMIs anything wrong with the 24 Merry Hill - Dudley tracker? No buses tracking on the map
The X1 currently has the same issue.
Both tracking now,
No nx tracking this morning or diamond
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 02, 2024, 07:02:28 AMNo nx tracking this morning or diamond
Diamond are tracking on their own website. NX aren't showing real time arrival times on Google maps either.
In fact no buses are tracking in the West Midlands at all currently.
NX are Tracking again now
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 02, 2024, 12:45:07 PMNX are Tracking again now
Bet the armchair spotters and kids are full of joy!
Quote from: Jack on July 02, 2024, 01:21:20 PMBet the armchair spotters and kids are full of joy!
They all are full of joy
Tracker has stopped again
It's working again now
Can anyone add the electric buses onto fleet list on bus times as you cannot log them on busmiles without them being on bus times
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 07, 2024, 01:16:43 PMCan anyone add the electric buses onto fleet list on bus times as you cannot log them on busmiles without them being on bus times
See: https://bustimes.org/rules
QuoteHow do I add a vehicle?
You can't. The vehicle lists on bustimes.org are purely a by-product of the automatic vehicle tracking system (the live map (https://bustimes.org/map) etc.).
They get added to the lists as soon as they track for the first time.
You can't travel on buses that have not entered service anyway.
Quote from: Stu on July 07, 2024, 02:14:57 PMSee: https://bustimes.org/rules
They get added to the lists as soon as they track for the first time.
You can't travel on buses that have not entered service anyway.
But some may never track
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 07, 2024, 02:20:16 PMBut some may never track
That is not true.
All buses (in England at least) used on public bus services have been required to track since 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Open_Data_Service
That's why Tony asks for help with identifying NX buses that aren't tracking on BusTimes.
All of NX's electric buses that are in service are already listed on BusTimes, and as others enter service for the first time then they get added to the vehicle list.
I don't know what you want to achieve with BusMiles, unless you want to claim to have travelled on buses that are still in storage.
Quote from: Stu on July 07, 2024, 02:50:30 PMThat is not true.
All buses (in England at least) used on public bus services have been required to track since 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Open_Data_Service
That's why Tony asks for help with identifying NX buses that aren't tracking on BusTimes.
All of NX's electric buses that are in service are already listed on BusTimes, and as others enter service for the first time then they get added to the vehicle list.
I don't know what you want to achieve with BusMiles, unless you want to claim to have travelled on buses that are still in storage.
There's currently 5 in service not tracking, so have not yet got onto Bustimes. All have been reported to try and correct the faults. (E166, E176, E205, E219 & E225). Two are due to enter service at YW next week.
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2024, 03:04:42 PMThere's currently 5 in service not tracking, so have not yet got onto Bustimes. All have been reported to try and correct the faults. (E166, E176, E205, E219 & E225). Two are due to enter service at YW next week.
Ah okay thanks
what service will the 2 electrics at Yardley Wood be going on 2& 3 or joining the ones on the 6
Quote from: Solo1 on July 07, 2024, 10:05:14 PMwhat service will the 2 electrics at Yardley Wood be going on 2& 3 or joining the ones on the 6
What's that do with BusTimes?
I've been told by YW drivers they will be used across YW's Decker services (excluding the 27)
6764 seems to be behind.
Ive just got on it at Willenhall, but Bustimes had it by the Merry Boys.
I know there is a delay between 'live' & Bustimes, but didnt think it was that much!
Coventry services 24 & 25 haven't tracked today (Sat) and service 85b hasn't tracked all week - it's that usual issue which sometimes crops up when revised timetables take effect.
For some reason 14/94/95 late night services aren't tracking on bus times where the timetable rolls over to the next day.
Notably 4876 on the 00:00 95, 4881 on the 00:15 94 tonight.
Didn't want to make a new thread for this, so thought that this would be the near-appropriate thread for this.
Don't suppose anyone knows why the midnight service, or services after midnight don't track all the time. For example I had 4876 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4876?date=2024-08-24#) last night, it tracked all my journeys but the 00:00 95 service from city.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on August 25, 2024, 11:30:38 AMDidn't want to make a new thread for this, so thought that this would be the near-appropriate thread for this.
Don't suppose anyone knows why the midnight service, or services after midnight don't track all the time. For example I had 4876 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4876?date=2024-08-24#) last night, it tracked all my journeys but the 00:00 95 service from city.
I would expect it to be because NX schedules use 24:01, then 25:01 for 1 minute past midnight and 1 minute past 1 etc while BusTimes is expecting 00:01 & 0101
Quote from: 2206 on August 25, 2024, 12:39:23 AMFor some reason 14/94/95 late night services aren't tracking on bus times where the timetable rolls over to the next day.
Notably 4876 on the 00:00 95, 4881 on the 00:15 94 tonight.
Looks like it's the same for the 23
Quote from: mesub on August 25, 2024, 07:33:46 PMLooks like it's the same for the 23
Pn number 9 tracks ok for the after midnight buses
Noticed yesterday and this morning mainly on WB services, the journeys back towards West Bromwich weren't tracking only the outbound journeys were
Quote from: Zander on August 30, 2024, 09:32:05 AMNoticed yesterday and this morning mainly on WB services, the journeys back towards West Bromwich weren't tracking only the outbound journeys were
79 eairler wasn't showing West Bromwich journeys either 5416 showed one at about 3PM
4846 not tracking on the Sunday morning 00:00 .
Strangely this journey seems to have tracked on other days this week, but not today.
The same journey 4876 wasn't tracking on last week.
No NX services currently tracking.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on September 01, 2024, 12:36:22 PMNo NX services currently tracking.
Not just NX, a number of other operators across the country have the same issue.
You can all stop twitching, its working again now! :grin:
Quote from: Stu on September 01, 2024, 06:17:19 PMYou can all stop twitching, its working again now! :grin:
Back to not working again
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on September 02, 2024, 06:22:10 AMBack to not working again
Yes I've just noticed this. Would happen on the day when the new timetables have started being used. I wanted to see what buses were out.
Stagecoach is the only one tracking
It appears to be a BODS problem as LVF has had similar trouble and the internal NX one is working
Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2024, 08:22:26 AMIt appears to be a BODS problem as LVF has had similar trouble and the internal NX one is working
Back up and working now.
According to BT Diamond bus 30703 is 462mins late
My sister has just spotted this one while checking to see whether her Wolves Service 9 is on time.
(I know it's obviously a fault unless certain people know different!)
2009 is somewhere near Codsall, instead of being somewhere on route!
Bustimes doesn't have it logged on a particular journey though!
Edit - And it's the one she wants as well, based on the timetable!
Further edit - The 9 never turned up, so she ended up catching a 31 to Cresswell Crescent, walking to New Invention, where she got a 69 to Peacock Avenue & was waiting for a 59 back to Wednesfield!
2009 is still showing as being near Codsall (which isn't even served by NX now!) However according to bustimes all journeys operated.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on September 08, 2024, 04:08:37 PM2009 is still showing as being near Codsall (which isn't even served by NX now!) However according to bustimes all journeys operated.
Except the 1210 from Walsall to Wolves!
Quote from: Westy on September 08, 2024, 04:50:34 PMExcept the 1210 from Walsall to Wolves!
Yep. Presumably the one your sister was waiting for. Can only think either there was no driver available or there was an issue with the bus as 2009 was back running later.
I think we're at the stage now that people know when it is your sister waiting for the bus and purposely divert the bus to make her miss it!
Quote from: ellspurs on September 08, 2024, 09:45:11 PMI think we're at the stage now that people know when it is your sister waiting for the bus and purposely divert the bus to make her miss it!
I do hope you're taking the mick, else that's not funny.
Of course I'm taking the mick. I'm sorry for doing so.
All NX and Diamond stopped tracking again
I think everything was down and then came back up and seems to have gone down again about 09.20
Is 6746 supposed to be on an X51 at the moment, not a 937?
(Incorrect info put in machine?)
Now showing at depot.
Diamond 32329 was tracking on the 202 and 540 at the same time today. Maybe getting mixed up with 32328 somewhere ??
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on September 25, 2024, 08:05:06 PMDiamond 32329 was tracking on the 202 and 540 at the same time today. Maybe getting mixed up with 32328 somewhere ??
This is normally down to the ticket machine which is what's used to track the bus location. Possibly the driver has entered the wrong code when the machine has been reset for a journey on one of the routes you mention.
Does anybody know how this ends up happening?
Quote from: frostjay974 on September 27, 2024, 09:52:17 AMDoes anybody know how this ends up happening?
He followed the diversion on his running board :wink:
Must admit I shared to someone I know, who used to live locally(now lives in Ireland) & used to work at Walsall until a few years ago, & his response was 'I'm in Cork driving mate Lol'!
Who are these idiots randomly changing names for no reason at all and getting salty about it.
I have noticed recently that the CV 85 service no longer tracks properly and only tracks about 5-10% of all journeys. I'm assuming there is a problem with the timetable on Bustimes.
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 31, 2024, 10:24:30 AMI have noticed recently that the CV 85 service no longer tracks properly and only tracks about 5-10% of all journeys. I'm assuming there is a problem with the timetable on Bustimes.
Bustimes gets its data from a third party so presumably there is the same problem there.
Bus times now has a shiny new ⚡ symbol next to some electric bus types now
Currently the WN16 timetable only shows the Dudley schooldays journey from Wombourne at 0736. (Buses are tracking normally though).
Bustimes seems to be down at the moment.
Quote from: frostjay974 on November 04, 2024, 03:03:54 PMBustimes seems to be down at the moment.
Working properly for me
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2024, 03:07:47 PMWorking properly for me
Yes it's back up working now for me aswell
Quote from: frostjay974 on November 04, 2024, 03:10:04 PMYes it's back up working now for me aswell
Tracking ok but it still only shows the 0736 on the timetable for the WN16.
Is 4695 and 4696 properly gone right
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on November 08, 2024, 10:41:39 PMIs 4695 and 4696 properly gone right
Welcome to the forum. If you reword your question so that we understand what you're asking, then you might get sensible answers.
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on November 08, 2024, 10:41:39 PMIs 4695 and 4696 properly gone right
The term I think you're looking for is Withdrawn.
Yeah
X13 seems have disappeared off bustimes completely. No route nothing tracking
Quote from: cris 99 on November 12, 2024, 01:49:57 PMX13 seems have disappeared off bustimes completely. No route nothing tracking
6834 & 6855 are currently tracking on the X13, doesn't seem like you can click on the route however.
Diamond 21101 on the 8 was tracking as 30001 on bus times this evening.
Tracker down Only stagecoach tracking at the moment
Quote from: Solo1 on November 25, 2024, 07:44:04 AMTracker down Only stagecoach tracking at the moment
I think the BODS (Bus Open Data System) was down this morning
6763 seems to be parked in the multi story car park at Tesco Walsall, according to BusTimes!
I think that's wrong, dont you.
Quote from: Westy on December 01, 2024, 05:05:23 PM6763 seems to be parked in the multi story car park at Tesco Walsall, according to BusTimes!
I think that's wrong, dont you.
Driver doing Christmas shopping!
Nx down again tracking
The two buses on Stagecoach X20 (Solihull - Stratford) today are not showing on the bustimes map, but go to the service then click on "vehicles" and each journey run by both buses so far appear in the list.
So, clearly some information is being captured, even though the buses are not tracking on the bustimes map - nor on the Stagecoach app either.
Clearly the problem is not with bustimes. But, out of interest, does anyone know how this fault might have happened?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 20, 2024, 09:39:56 AMThe two buses on Stagecoach X20 (Solihull - Stratford) today are not showing on the bustimes map, but go to the service then click on "vehicles" and each journey run by both buses so far appear in the list.
So, clearly some information is being captured, even though the buses are not tracking on the bustimes map - nor on the Stagecoach app either.
Clearly the problem is not with bustimes. But, out of interest, does anyone know how this fault might have happened?
Not being an expert I can only suggest its a data error.
E215 tracking as a 1 to Acocks Green, but running along the 8A route.
Quote from: TGZac on December 23, 2024, 11:38:28 AME215 tracking as a 1 to Acocks Green, but running along the 8A route.
No, it's not tracking as a 1.
If you click on track this bus you will see it going around the 8. It's on my list of vehicles not tracking properly at the moment
This may seem like a silly question but what does it mean when a bus is a reserve?
Quote from: MSU2008 on January 02, 2025, 04:19:18 PMThis may seem like a silly question but what does it mean when a bus is a reserve?
It means that while not completely withdrawn, it is not intended to be used in the immediate future. Its like what happens when a ship is placed into reserve: it is left in such a condition that only minimal work would be required to bring the vessel (or bus this case) to operational readiness.
Appears there is a problem with bustimes at the moment, wonder if anyone else is getting this, was working fine a few minutes ago!
503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.
EDIT: Seems to have sorted itself out now.
Unfortunately Bustimes is not looking hopeful for its future, newest addition shows that we cannot see livery names anymore. Sad really.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on January 27, 2025, 07:52:35 PMUnfortunately Bustimes is not looking hopeful for its future, newest addition shows that we cannot see livery names anymore. Sad really.
All because vegs were arguing over the livery names on the discord and then site edits, so instead of strict moderation they just removed the livery names 🤦�♂️
Quote from: B7RLE on January 27, 2025, 08:39:48 PMAll because vegs were arguing over the livery names on the discord and then site edits, so instead of strict moderation they just removed the livery names 🤦�♂️
I even get people arguing my edits are wrong when they are official info (previous registrations is the biggest example).
Quote from: B7RLE on January 27, 2025, 08:39:48 PMAll because vegs were arguing over the livery names on the discord and then site edits, so instead of strict moderation they just removed the livery names 🤦�♂️
Why vegetarians
@B7RLE 😀😂 could be anyone?!!
6103 on 11c.
Bus Times shows its in Stirchley.
Ive just got on it in Selly Oak.
Quote from: Westy on January 29, 2025, 12:47:57 PM6103 on 11c.
Bus Times shows its in Stirchley.
Ive just got on it in Selly Oak.
If you look it will tell you that it was in Stirchley x-amounts of minutes ago
WA39 service not tracking at all other Darlaston routes are
Quote from: B7RLE on January 27, 2025, 08:39:48 PMAll because vegs were arguing over the livery names on the discord and then site edits, so instead of strict moderation they just removed the livery names 🤦�♂️
It's meant to be temporary apparently...
The tracker for National Express West Midlands and Diamond has stopped tracking again
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on February 12, 2025, 01:09:56 PMThe tracker for National Express West Midlands and Diamond has stopped tracking again
Tracking normally now.
All NX vehicles stopped tracking at 09:24 It appears one of the companies involved in the link has a major IT failure as their websites are all down as well
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2025, 09:48:11 AMAll NX vehicles stopped tracking at 09:24 It appears one of the companies involved in the link has a major IT failure as their websites are all down as well
Oh no get the Kleenex out
Site is seemingly not tracking anything weekly at this point, always when I need it most too.
Quote from: jasmine on February 17, 2025, 11:48:36 AMSite is seemingly not tracking anything weekly at this point, always when I need it most too.
Yes I had just noticed that it hasn't been tracking last few hours. Let's hope it starts back up soon.
Doesn't show Diamond's 17 departure time from bus stops when you click on that stop. (17 Dudley to Stourbridge and vice versa). Does show 17A departure time from each stop.
Anyone know what Diamond 20918 is doing at the moment, because it looks like, according to BusTimes & Diamond's own tracker, the driver hasnt updated his machine since an earlier journey?
(In fact, I think I might give in & catch a 529 instead, as I CBA !)
The new timetables for the WB 48/48a aren't showing properly on bus times
20882 on the 15 is tracking as 32289 this afternoon. Guessing 32289 is on the 25.
First time I've noticed this. But bus times is now showing the running board numbers as well. BC95/25.
https://bustimes.org/trips/463253395/block?date=2025-02-27
Quote from: 2206 on February 27, 2025, 02:44:31 PMFirst time I've noticed this. But bus times is now showing the running board numbers as well. BC95/25.
https://bustimes.org/trips/463253395/block?date=2025-02-27
Interesting development.
Tracker for National Express coaches is off
The 1610 Wn to Walsall service 9 has done something odd between New Invention & Bloxwich onwards!
2115 now seems to be in Blakenall!
(Only looking at it, as it's the one my sister is on!)
Quote from: Westy on March 12, 2025, 04:57:05 PMThe 1610 Wn to Walsall service 9 has done something odd between New Invention & Bloxwich onwards!
2115 now seems to be in Blakenall!
(Only looking at it, as it's the one my sister is on!)
Obviously just the GPS location is off slightly!
Which appears to have now corrected itself.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-2115#journeys/698048368
Two unknown vehicles in the Bristol and Weston-Super-Mare areas seems to be pinging as CV 2157 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2157#journeys/698073303) and E023 (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e023#journeys/698054435)
@Tony so are the non trackers reported then whenever the company is ready they fix it (as i do nothing for months then when they feel like it fix it)
for example all of the 4481 4486 4688 n some other seemed to be fixed today n yesterday but wasnt fixed for months
is it a basis of when they are ready or do they not rlly care and fix it to stop the reports from NXWM
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on March 21, 2025, 01:38:04 PM@Tony
so are the non trackers reported then whenever the company is ready they fix it (as i do nothing for months then when they feel like it fix it)
for example all of the 4481 4486 4688 n some other seemed to be fixed today n yesterday but wasnt fixed for months
is it a basis of when they are ready or do they not rlly care and fix it to stop the reports from NXWM
No. It's the complete opposite. It helps everyone inside the company if every vehicle is tracking as well as passengers. This thread was set up purely to help reduce the number of vehicles not tracking.
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2025, 08:41:54 PMNo. It's the complete opposite. It helps everyone inside the company if every vehicle is tracking as well as passengers. This thread was set up purely to help reduce the number of vehicles not tracking.
yea defo as many drivers use bustimes to track their buses, only thought that as some hadnt tracked in over a year but nice to know they do care
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on March 21, 2025, 08:43:22 PMyea defo as many drivers use bustimes to track their buses, only thought that as some hadnt tracked in over a year but nice to know they do care
Loads of drivers use bustimes to see what bus they have got and where it is now easier now they have added running boards on it
E023 seems to have gone on a trip to Luton 😂
Diamond 32261 and 30120 shows up on NXWM's vehicle map
Quote from: jasmine on March 25, 2025, 06:26:40 PMDiamond 32261 and 30120 shows up on NXWM's vehicle map
Good. 31 route now shows all buses on it
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2025, 06:43:18 PMGood. 31 route now shows all buses on it
Oh is it some test to make routes that are run by multiple operators show on the same map? e.g 16/16A (kind of), 50 (kind of), 40, etc.
Quote from: jasmine on March 25, 2025, 06:44:53 PMOh is it some test to make routes that are run by multiple operators show on the same map? e.g 16/16A (kind of), 50 (kind of), 40, etc.
It also shows similar routes on top of eachother, namely 4/4H/4M, 23/24, 82/87, 45/47, 97/97A, X3/X4/X5, 65/67, 94/95, 51/X51, 11A/11C, 8A/8C, 934/935/936/937/937A, 12/12A, 13/13A, 8/X8, 61/63, 20/20A, 34/37/39, etc
Quote from: jasmine on March 25, 2025, 06:44:53 PMOh is it some test to make routes that are run by multiple operators show on the same map? e.g 16/16A (kind of), 50 (kind of), 40, etc.
It is more useful for passengers. I noticed the other day when looking at the timetable for the 3 (West Brom to Merry Hill), that it also shows the evening journeys that are run by Carolean.
Anyone just looking at the NX timetable might think there's no service in the evening, but now they know.
Quote from: Stu on March 25, 2025, 07:13:08 PMIt is more useful for passengers. I noticed the other day when looking at the timetable for the 3 (West Brom to Merry Hill), that it also shows the evening journeys that are run by Carolean.
Anyone just looking at the NX timetable might think there's no service in the evening, but now they know.
It's absolutely so helpful, take it from me, someone who uses 16/16A (although it's not combined like the others) if it was, there'd be an instant improvement in user experience for me
I agree with what others have said, this is a very useful addition. I can check on X21 and X22 at the same time now.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 25, 2025, 09:37:33 PMI agree with what others have said, this is a very useful addition. I can check on X21 and X22 at the same time now.
You've been able to do that for ages
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2025, 10:09:29 PMYou've been able to do that for ages
You could look at the combined timetable, yes. But I was referring to the map view which shows where the buses are tracking. Its only been recently where it's included the checkbox to show X22 buses as well.
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2025, 06:43:18 PMGood. 31 route now shows all buses on it
It changed it about a week ago. Only issue is that there will be endless issues with the timetable because Diamond are quite poor at maintaining their open data.
Just to give some context. Some services already have options to combine timetables and this is done where multiple services are on the same service registration (traffic commissioner registration or West Midlands Combined Authority registration).
The site owner, Jclgoodwin (or JG as he is commonly known to regular users), enhanced the offering so that as well as timetables, these options for combining routes now extend to the map and tracking.
On top of that, with some suggestions from users, some routes were merged fully. This was only done though in a few instances where there is ticket acceptance (ie the Diamond/NXWM 31 as it's a partnership or Carolean/NXWM 3 because there is basically no returns or individual operator tickets bar the very limited National Express out of area day ticket). It was also only done where merging the data didn't/doesn't cause a major readability issue for passengers and/or it is easy for passengers on exclusive/unique parts of each route route to still see their times. These were conditions because it was agreed on the discord a while back that in general people deemed it confusing to merge a service if there isn't ticket acceptance and as 'normal users' are the priority, the timetables need to be as simple as possible. Especially when merging Diamond routes as Diamond often have the wrong stops or have other data issues which prevent the timetables working properly.
A number of NXWM routes got merged as well as a few Diamond services (and Carolean 3 got merged with NXWM 3). Diamond routes may get merged more as/when their data quality improves as well as Network West Midlands sort out their godawful entries in the bus stop database (also known as NAPTAN).
Quote from: IMarkeh on March 27, 2025, 12:09:09 AMOn top of that, with some suggestions from users, some routes were merged fully. This was only done though in a few instances where there is ticket acceptance (ie the Diamond/NXWM 31 as it's a partnership or Carolean/NXWM 3 because there is basically no returns or individual operator tickets bar the very limited National Express out of area day ticket). It was also only done where merging the data didn't/doesn't cause a major readability issue for passengers and/or it is easy for passengers on exclusive/unique parts of each route route to still see their times. These were conditions because it was agreed on the discord a while back that in general people deemed it confusing to merge a service if there isn't ticket acceptance and as 'normal users' are the priority, the timetables need to be as simple as possible. Especially when merging Diamond routes as Diamond often have the wrong stops or have other data issues which prevent the timetables working properly.
There is ticket acceptance on all bus services within the West Midlands, has been since June 2023.
Diamond 21238 is tracking both in Preston & on the 326!
Diamond 21238 still duel tracking.
Looks like bus times isn't tracking the post midnight journeys again today. 00:00, 00:15, 01:00 94/95 & 00:07 14.
QuoteLooks like bus times isn't tracking the post midnight journeys again today. 00:00, 00:15, 01:00 94/95 & 00:07 14.
Ditto 6826 on the 97. 7520 was another, before working the 01:30 97A (obviously, as it comes in dead), which doesn't really help when it eventually showed up almost 10 minutes late. E244 may have been another (on the last inbound 50), but I didn't bother checking as the RTI at the Kings Heath stop was working correctly for once.
In fact, the only thing that I saw pinging after 1am was 5514 - which was in BC at the time!
NXC E028 and E276 are tracking on NXWM22 Oldbury to Bearwood
Tracker for National Express West Midlands is off again
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on April 23, 2025, 11:17:55 AMTracker for National Express West Midlands is off again
Landflight and Diamond buses have also stop tracking on bustimes
NX, diamond and landflight have started tracking again but it's still a bit slow
The X30 hasn't tracked prior to the 11:00 trip today and yesterday.
can you tell me if there is a bus service available near Reddicap trading estate in Sutton coldfield please? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on April 24, 2025, 02:33:54 PMcan you tell me if there is a bus service available near Reddicap trading estate in Sutton coldfield please? thanks
The 77 & X15 go there. Other more frequent services with longer operational hours X4/X14 from Riland Road.
I'm not sure why the X15 timetable seems to have dissappeared from bus times, but it can be viewed on the NX website.
https://bustimes.org/stops/43000558601?date=2025-04-25
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/x15-birmingham-sutton-coldfield
The X15 timetable from 5th May 2025 is also downloadable from the TfWM timetable pages.
many thanks I am having some health issues at the present and I would not want to walk from Sutton parade (about a mile)
Quote from: windy miller on April 24, 2025, 05:31:10 PMmany thanks I am having some health issues at the present and I would not want to walk from Sutton parade (about a mile)
i have tried to find a running schedule for the 77s service and i can only find ONE service to the school in the morning there may be only two services a day thats no help to me im afraid i am tempted to see if this ring and ride service can help me but I think i have to be registered as disabled ?
Quote from: windy miller on April 24, 2025, 07:10:34 PMi have tried to find a running schedule for the 77s service and i can only find ONE service to the school in the morning there may be only two services a day thats no help to me im afraid i am tempted to see if this ring and ride service can help me but I think i have to be registered as disabled ?
The 77S is the school days extra journey.
You probably want the normal 77 service. Most journeys leave Sutton in that direction xx:55.
https://bustimes.org/services/77-walsall-erdington?calendar=7163530&service=6578%3A77&service=67093%3A77S
Noticed some buses tracking as multiple running boards, today 4955 tracking as 3 different 74 boards and running 60mins early
Minor thing on bus times showing the 4 being run by both national express Coventry and national express West Midlands. Would be surprising if it ever did that route considering it's 12 miles just to do it.
Anyone noticed how on the national express coventry page its now showing all the routes ran by both nxc and nxwm
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on April 28, 2025, 08:21:28 AMAnyone noticed how on the national express coventry page its now showing all the routes ran by both nxc and nxwm
Just seen that - very odd!
Anyone for a 16 to Chipping Norton?
4933 popping into the old Yourbus depot..........
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on April 28, 2025, 08:21:28 AMAnyone noticed how on the national express coventry page its now showing all the routes ran by both nxc and nxwm
Not all NXWM routes
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on April 28, 2025, 07:57:15 AMMinor thing on bus times showing the 4 being run by both national express Coventry and national express West Midlands. Would be surprising if it ever did that route considering it's 12 miles just to do it.
been doing this for a while, on a bunch of routes
Most routes. The only route that should be both is the X1.
Was just trying to check the timetable for the WN79 to find according to Bustimes NXC operate it you can't actually view the timetable like you would normally or see the buses Tracking on it. The WA34/37 seems unaffected
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on April 29, 2025, 11:51:19 AM4621 at west brom garage now no longer confined to granny routes
No idea what that's supposed to mean, but 4621 is not at WB
Wolves 8
Pn x10 disappeared from BusTimes
Quote from: karl724223 on April 29, 2025, 01:52:01 PMWolves 8
Pn x10 disappeared from BusTimes
BusTimes is broken generally tdy
Any idea what's happening with bus times? Many routes missing including 14,94,95,97/A
Quote from: busboydan on April 29, 2025, 05:38:20 PMAny idea what's happening with bus times? Many routes missing including 14,94,95,97/A
NX is just a mess on there atm
Quote from: busboydan on April 29, 2025, 05:38:20 PMAny idea what's happening with bus times? Many routes missing including 14,94,95,97/A
The buses themselves are tracking correctly, however there appears to be some issues with the timetable data, this is also causing bus stops to disappear from the map, except ones that are served by other operators apart from NX.
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on April 29, 2025, 11:51:19 AM4621 at west brom garage now no longer confined to granny routes
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on April 29, 2025, 01:52:25 PMonly call 18 49 76 granny routes because they use really old ALX400s and go 20mph due to the speed limit..
technically the old buses are gone so they cant be callrd granny routes..
That's a very ill-informed and ignorant comment, and also
off-topic.
Please remember that this is an organised discussion forum, it is not a Discord or WhatsApp general chat where you can just post any old rubbish.
Same goes to other members as well.
NX Coventry Vegwe, I mean Bus Times, showing some NXWM routes (a WN59, a BC23 and a couple of BC24s too).
Most odd.
Quote from: Wumpty on April 30, 2025, 02:21:36 PMNX Coventry Bus Times, showing some NXWM routes (a WN59, a BC23 and a couple of BC24s too).
Most odd.
Its been doing that for a few days. Presumably a data error either within bustimes or BODS?
Quote from: Rachvince53 on April 30, 2025, 02:44:57 PMIts been doing that for a few days. Presumably a data error either within bustimes or BODS?
Almost a "noteworthy" working on a "Coventry" route!
Noticed last night that NatEx coaches are tracking once again-which is helpful given of course next month I will be amongst you all in and around the Second City and the wider region.
PB67 has disappeared from bustimes completely been like this for a week or so.
Quote from: EK40 on May 13, 2025, 10:50:55 PMPB67 has disappeared from bustimes completely been like this for a week or so.
I think it's something to do with the 67 terminus bus stop change. Either bustimes hasn't picked it up yet or in the process.
Quote from: appleberry12 on May 13, 2025, 10:53:25 PMI think it's something to do with the 67 terminus bus stop change. Either bustimes hasn't picked it up yet or in the process.
The buses are still tracking on the route, the timetable is missing for some reason, data feed error.
CV 17As aren't tracking but standard 17s are.
the pads on BusTimes are showing incorrect data presumably due to half term service changes
for example look at bus 4487 BJ03 EWV
Quote from: Mega Kickdown on May 27, 2025, 02:57:59 PMthe pads on BusTimes are showing incorrect data presumably due to half term service changes
for example look at bus 4487 BJ03 EWV
Pads? :huh:
It looks like the half-term timetables have not been added to data feeds for BODS.
Buses are tracking correctly, however some journeys, particularly in the mornings, will be showing as running early!
Quote from: Stu on May 27, 2025, 07:33:42 PMPads? :huh:
It looks like the half-term timetables have not been added to data feeds for BODS.
Buses are tracking correctly, however some journeys, particularly in the mornings, will be showing as running early!
yes duties, sorry where im from we call them pads not boards so im more used to saying pads
probably influenced by the four day timetable week as well, would be nice for it to work tomorrow
I am not sure if its new but there's a new site for bus tracking called times bus (https://timesbus.org/) and is pretty much the same as bus times just in case anyone wanted to use an alternative. It isn't fully complete as not all buses have been added such as registrations etc.
Quote from: MSU2008 on May 28, 2025, 06:11:41 PMI am not sure if its new but there's a new site for bus tracking called times bus (https://timesbus.org/) and is pretty much the same as bus times just in case anyone wanted to use an alternative. It isn't fully complete as not all buses have been added such as registrations etc.
I've seen this, its just a clone of BusTimes - the source code is available from GitHub so anyone with technical expertise can host their own instance, and modify it to suit their own purposes.
There are one or two others as well, I suspect they have been started by 'hardcore' enthusiasts who are not happy with the amount of editing control they have on BusTimes, you know the kind, those who argue over the most minor of trivialities.
And there's at least one that is 'pure fantasy', with all manner of made up operators and bus routes.
Quote from: Stu on May 28, 2025, 07:31:31 PMI've seen this, its just a clone of BusTimes - the source code is available from GitHub so anyone with technical expertise can host their own instance, and modify it to suit their own purposes.
There are one or two others as well, I suspect they have been started by 'hardcore' enthusiasts who are not happy with the amount of editing control they have on BusTimes, you know the kind, those who argue over the most minor of trivialities.
And there's at least one that is 'pure fantasy', with all manner of made up operators and bus routes.
No adverts? When you have to pay all the different fees for a website probably won't last long at renewal time for space, domain security (if there is any) etc
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2025, 07:38:08 PMNo adverts? When you have to pay all the different fees for a website probably won't last long at renewal time for space, domain security (if there is any) etc
I don't know what the server requirements are for this to run, but I'd assume that cheap shared hosting wouldn't suffice.
My hosting costs me £100 a year, and that runs my WMBU site, as well as a couple of others I look after. I'm happy to pay for that myself, no adverts!
Quote from: Stu on May 28, 2025, 07:59:30 PMI don't know what the server requirements are for this to run, but I'd assume that cheap shared hosting wouldn't suffice.
My hosting costs me £100 a year, and that runs my WMBU site, as well as a couple of others I look after. I'm happy to pay for that myself, no adverts!
Mine's a lot larger than yours, but costs close on £500 a year all in. Adverts bring in around £1,000
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2025, 08:10:02 PMMine's a lot larger than yours,
Ego or website?
The Solihull-Rubery 49 has disappeared from the list of services on bustimes. Fortunately I can use google maps.
Quote from: cardew on May 31, 2025, 11:13:30 AMThe Solihull-Rubery 49 has disappeared from the list of services on bustimes. Fortunately I can use google maps.
Tracking with the WB 49.
Please note that currently bustimes is using the old timetables (awaiting updates) although buses are tracking on their new routes. This means that buses that are actually probably on time are shown as running either late or early.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on June 01, 2025, 09:58:45 AMPlease note that currently bustimes is using the old timetables (awaiting updates) although buses are tracking on their new routes. This means that buses that are actually probably on time are shown as running either late or early.
It looks like timetables are now correct on BusTimes, though bus stops on route maps aren't all yet updated.
I assume that buses on the 49 (YW) and X20 will be linked to the correct routes once they log on to their next scheduled journey.
Buses on the Acocks Green 11A are tracking on the Pensnett 11A
Did the pensnett route have to be called 11A out of all things
Quote from: Tridentobt on June 01, 2025, 05:14:58 PMDid the pensnett route have to be called 11A out of all things
Well it was the 13 before the 12* services had to stupidly be renumbered and have a 13/13A/13B which is just completely silly.
Back before that it was the 313, which again was fine and everyone knew the numbers and understood it! But this is NX who love to change things!
Quote from: Tridentobt on June 01, 2025, 05:14:58 PMDid the pensnett route have to be called 11A out of all things
It's a variant of the 11 service, so why not?
Quote from: Jack on June 01, 2025, 05:26:48 PMBack before that it was the 313, which again was fine and everyone knew the numbers and understood it! But this is NX who love to change things!
The route numbers were changed by TfWM who wanted to create simple to understand local networks.
Quote from: Stu on June 01, 2025, 05:38:17 PMIt's a variant of the 11 service, so why not?
The route numbers were changed by TfWM who wanted to create simple to understand local networks.
I don't really think taking away the 127/128/129 back in 2018 and then having them as the 13/13A/13B causes simplicity but we will agree to disagree.
Quote from: Jack on June 01, 2025, 06:42:41 PMI don't really think taking away the 127/128/129 back in 2018 and then having them as the 13/13A/13B causes simplicity but we will agree to disagree.
Isn't it now the 12, 12A, 13 and 13A
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 01, 2025, 07:41:42 PMIsn't it now the 12, 12A, 13 and 13A
The 12 was the 120 and I think the 12A was the 121. Think the 13 & 13A were the 128 and 129 but I'm not sure.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on June 01, 2025, 07:53:35 PMThe 12 was the 120 and I think the 12A was the 121. Think the 13 & 13A were the 128 and 129 but I'm not sure.
12 was the 120, 12A is a combination of the 120 & 121 (Oldbury - Dudley), the 13 was the 128, 13A is the 127 curtailed to Blackheath 127 and 13B was the 129.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 01, 2025, 07:41:42 PMIsn't it now the 12, 12A, 13 and 13A
That's what I just said I was purely talking about the 13's not the 12's...
Quote from: Stu on June 01, 2025, 10:45:21 AMIt looks like timetables are now correct on BusTimes, though bus stops on route maps aren't all yet updated.
I assume that buses on the 49 (YW) and X20 will be linked to the correct routes once they log on to their next scheduled journey.
This appears to have been fixed now?
Quote from: Jack on June 01, 2025, 08:44:15 PMThat's what I just said I was purely talking about the 13's not the 12's...
He must have thought that the 12/A was either the 127/8/9 (I will go back on topic now mods)
Quote from: Stu on June 01, 2025, 10:45:21 AMIt looks like timetables are now correct on BusTimes, though bus stops on route maps aren't all yet updated.
I assume that buses on the 49 (YW) and X20 will be linked to the correct routes once they log on to their next scheduled journey.
outer circus timetables have broken today and still not working but some late night trips are showing correctly suprisingly, probably because they had stayed the same since before june
BusTimes seems to have these issues more often, with BODS not updating twice within two weeks... (did it have these issues previously
I see not all the recent changes are showing on Bus Times yet, i.e. 997, 998, 936, 937 etc
PD0001111 – WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LIMITED – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/licences/PD0001111)
Quote from: Budgie on June 06, 2025, 09:40:51 AMI see not all the recent changes are showing on Bus Times yet, i.e. 997, 998, 936, 937 etc
PD0001111 – WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LIMITED – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/licences/PD0001111)
They won't do, because in the West Midlands area, TfWM acts as the registration authority.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/a-guide-to-registering-and-operating-local-bus-services-in-england-and-wales#Annex3
The outer circle timetables are missing again from the latest BODS data set (4th June)
I take it there's no "test system"?
Quote from: cardew on June 06, 2025, 10:19:20 AMThe outer circle timetables are missing again from the latest BODS data set (4th June)
I take it there's no "test system"?
outer circus broke on 1st june as well but got fixed quickly
anyway entire BusTimes(NXWM not diamond)trackers
are broken!!