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Title: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on May 15, 2014, 02:59:53 PM

This is what I reckon is still to be repainted
AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4153; 4157; 4316; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4626; 4627 (10) + 4613 which won't be back in service in TWM livery)
4152; 4160; 4161; 4625 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1821; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (11) 1819 is currently not in use at Keltruck
1814; 1834 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281; 4697; 4777 (8)
4262 currently at Carlyle; 4779 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199; 4352 being pained
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4309; 4329; 4331; 4332 (12)
4126 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4271; 4273; 4297 (10)
4227; 4231 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4564; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4558; 4560; 4561 currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4727; 4731; 4732 (15)
4363; 4721; 4728 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

So I reckon there are 91 or 92 still to go in depending on whether 4613 survives and 30 in service that will be withdrawn in TWM livery

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on May 15, 2014, 03:15:41 PM

Thanks for that neat overview! They're certainly making progress with repaints and refurbs. Presumably, TWM livery on vehicles staying in the fleet is unlikely to last into 2015, at least not on many vehicles at all.

How many repaints and refurbs would you say are taking place on average per month? It must be somewhere in the region of 10? or is that too many. If it is around that, then they should manage to get every vehicle that is staying into the right livery by the end of the year.

Then, presumably, attention will turn onto vehicles repainted into NX livery a while back or those where the interior was not refurbished.

Anyone know how many there are of these (i.e repainted into early NX livery but interior not refurbished)?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 15, 2014, 03:41:40 PM

@DiamondDart i can't say about other garages but WN have several Mercs and Tridents unrefurbed but in NX Livery:

1661 and 1671 (I don't know if 1670 is refurbed or not?)

4535,4546,4549,4550,4551,4552 and 4578 are the early repainted Tridents that are unrefurbed

The mercs will possibly be replaced with cascaded Double Deckers later in the year and with only 12 Tridents left to do (3 in for paint at a time) it will whittle down how many buses are in TWM livery at WN (If WN have a batch of cascaded Tridents that are all or mostly in NX Livery then WN will have all its buses in NX livery by the end of the year)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on May 15, 2014, 03:48:09 PM

Quote from: Nathan on May 15, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
@DiamondDart i can't say about other garages but WN have several Mercs and Tridents unrefurbed but in NX Livery:

1661 and 1671 (I don't know if 1670 is refurbed or not?)

4535,4546,4549,4550,4551,4552 and 4578 are the early repainted Tridents that are unrefurbed

Thanks @Nathan (hope that'll work!!). I think BC have a few ALX400's like this plus some of the 54 reg geminis and b7tl/alx400s at WB and PB.

There must still be a fair few like this around-hopefully they keep going with the repaint/refurb programme even after everything is in the right livery!!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: paulb1973 on May 15, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

That tallies up with my own Coventry-related notes. CV do have an extra bus to be repainted into NX livery - namely 4453 - obviously its not in TC/TWM colours, can't remember if it has been internally refurbished (I'm assuming it has).

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: P419 EJW on May 15, 2014, 05:57:38 PM

Quote from: Nathan on May 15, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
1661 and 1671 (I don't know if 1670 is refurbed or not?)

@Nathan, 1670 is refurbed. I see it most of the time on WN 82, I think it literally lives on the route! ;)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 15, 2014, 06:02:53 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on May 15, 2014, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 15, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
1661 and 1671 (I don't know if 1670 is refurbed or not?)

@Nathan, 1670 is refurbed. I see it most of the time on WN 82, I think it literally lives on the route! ;)

Saw 1670 this afternoon in the bus station anyway ;)

@paulb1973 4453 is refurbed :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on May 15, 2014, 06:31:41 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on May 15, 2014, 05:50:26 PM
That tallies up with my own Coventry-related notes. CV do have an extra bus to be repainted into NX livery - namely 4453 - obviously its not in TC/TWM colours, can't remember if it has been internally refurbished (I'm assuming it has).

Yes Paul, it was refurbished in the dark blue TWM moquette

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on May 15, 2014, 06:45:43 PM

Quote from: Tony on May 15, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
whether 4613 survives

So is the future of 4613 in dought then?

I thought that it would have a good chance of been repaired, being one of the newest Tridents, even though it is 9 1/2 years old

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on May 15, 2014, 06:50:03 PM

Quote from: John on May 15, 2014, 06:45:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 15, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
whether 4613 survives

So is the future of 4613 in dought then?

I thought that it would have a good chance of been repaired, being one of the newest Tridents, even though it is 9 1/2 years old

I've no idea how bad it is, I haven't seen, or heard the end result of the fire

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 15, 2014, 07:11:56 PM

@Tony @John

very bad. its not exclusive to the engine bay, is what I've been told so far

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: domino.99 on May 16, 2014, 08:23:48 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on May 15, 2014, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 15, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
1661 and 1671 (I don't know if 1670 is refurbed or not?)

@Nathan, 1670 is refurbed. I see it most of the time on WN 82, I think it literally lives on the route! ;)

Your right there, i constantly either see it or have it on the 82 to and from school

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on May 17, 2014, 09:38:17 AM

Tony - thanks for posting the summary - anyone know what the reason for 1819 being out if use is? And any news on 4613? Is it back @ Liverpool street? Or elsewhere (eg Carlyle)

From Tony's list there are 18 vehicles currently in the process of repaint - at a average of three weeks for each refurb, the whole lot would be done within about 16 weeks (4 months). Possibly less because I thought they were generally away for two weeks - it obviously depends how much work is required.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:04:08 PM

Two more to take off the list
BC 4153 & 4316 are both now at Walsall for repaint with 4152 back at BC finished

1819 is back at Bordesley, from keltruck in service in toothpaste

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on May 27, 2014, 01:21:58 PM

Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:04:08 PM
Two more to take off the list
BC 4153 & 4316 are both now at Walsall for repaint with 4152 back at BC finished

1819 is back at Bordesley, from keltruck in service in toothpaste

1819 is out on the 55/A today and I only seen 4153 yesterday

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:31:34 PM

Quote from: Rob on May 27, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:04:08 PM
Two more to take off the list
BC 4153 & 4316 are both now at Walsall for repaint with 4152 back at BC finished

1819 is back at Bordesley, from keltruck in service in toothpaste

1819 is out on the 55/A today and I only seen 4153 yesterday

1825 is also on the 55 today repainted. It only did one and a half days when it first arrived back before being sent to Carlyle for repairs

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: B.C Driver on May 27, 2014, 02:32:45 PM

So just 4157 flying the flag for the 14 branding now.

I wonder what the very last bus will be in TWM livery?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: lauren1993 on May 27, 2014, 03:51:11 PM

Quote from: Bham Central Driver on May 27, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
So just 4157 flying the flag for the 14 branding now.

I wonder what the very last bus will be in TWM livery?

4409 or 4416 no doubt, Coventry seem to get the least attention/upgrades

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Sh4318 on May 27, 2014, 04:16:53 PM

@Bham Central Driver one of the ALX 200 darts maybe?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: nitromatt1 on May 27, 2014, 07:42:55 PM

4356 not in for refurb. In service in Merry Hill this evening. Didn't look what route.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 27, 2014, 08:13:24 PM

Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 07:42:55 PM
4356 not in for refurb. In service in Merry Hill this evening. Didn't look what route.

Forgot to mention i saw it still in TWM livery on the 246 on Saturday

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2014, 08:25:14 PM

4626 is another off the list, now at Trailways for refurbishment

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 09, 2014, 08:32:42 PM

Quote from: Nathan on May 27, 2014, 08:13:24 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 07:42:55 PM
4356 not in for refurb. In service in Merry Hill this evening. Didn't look what route.

Forgot to mention i saw it still in TWM livery on the 246 on Saturday

Presumably 4356 will go to WB when 4199 is completed.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on June 09, 2014, 09:51:40 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 09, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 27, 2014, 08:13:24 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 07:42:55 PM
4356 not in for refurb. In service in Merry Hill this evening. Didn't look what route.

Forgot to mention i saw it still in TWM livery on the 246 on Saturday

Presumably 4356 will go to WB when 4199 is completed.

I noticed 4200 could do with being at the front of the queue for a refurb once the remaining TWM liveried PE ones are completed. The upstairs windows are badly etched & I think has graffiti. Some replacement window film might help in the interim.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM

4309 has now gone to Trailways for refurb so I make that 113 buses still in service in TWM livery 83 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below, corrections welcome!

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4625; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281; 4697 (7)
4262; 4777 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being pained
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4227; 4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4564; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4558; 4560; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on June 10, 2014, 01:35:41 PM

Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
4309 has now gone to Trailways for refurb so I make that 114 buses still in service in TWM livery 84 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below, corrections welcome!

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4615; 4626; 4627 (7) which won't be back in service in TWM livery)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4625; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281; 4697 (7)
4262; 4777 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being pained
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4227; 4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4564; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4558; 4560; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Missed out 4615 @Tony :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:46:25 PM

Quote from: Rob on June 10, 2014, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
4309 has now gone to Trailways for refurb so I make that 114 buses still in service in TWM livery 84 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below, corrections welcome!

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4626; 4627 (7) + 4613 which won't be back in service in TWM livery)
4153; 4316; 4625; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281; 4697 (7)
4262; 4777 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being pained
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4227; 4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4564; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4558; 4560; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Missed out 4615 @Tony :)

Cheers Rob, I have just ammended the list in my original post for people who haven't read it yet

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2014, 06:25:01 PM

List revised again. It has just been pointed out to me that the reason I had missed 4615 was because I still had 4626 in the list, so back down to 84. Now 4613 has arrived at Carlyle that can come out the main list and into the 'being done' part.

4177 will also be painted when the Morrisons advert comes off, so although not in TWM livery it is one more not in fleet livery to be done

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on June 10, 2014, 06:48:42 PM

So all Walsall single deckers are repainted then!

Any chance of slapping a new off side fleet name vinyl on 1885 then?

Fed up of seeing 'Express West Midlands'!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Gareth on June 10, 2014, 07:48:07 PM

If and when the whole fleet is in one livery will this be the first time that all buses in the West Midlands are in one livery variation?
Although by 1984, before the Tracline65 Metrobuses, all buses were blue and cream, there were a few different livery layouts depending on vehicle type.
And as I'm typing this I've just remembered that NX also have blue and green fronted buses. Guess we will have to wait a bit longer for a fully unified fleet.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 11, 2014, 03:23:21 PM

4564 can come off the list, now at Walsall

Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
4309 has now gone to Trailways for refurb so I make that 112 buses still in service in TWM livery 82 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4625; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281; 4697 (7)
4262; 4777 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4560; 4564; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2014, 01:57:52 PM

Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
111 buses still in service in TWM livery 81 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4562; 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (12)
4560; 4564; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Another one (and vehicle type) off the list
4697 now at Walsall, 4777 now returned to Perry barr

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on June 12, 2014, 11:57:43 PM

4625 back at BC and looking very smart!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on June 13, 2014, 01:30:04 PM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 12, 2014, 11:57:43 PM
4625 back at BC and looking very smart!

I'll look out for 4625 tomorrow (if its out) ;)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM

Quote from: Tony on June 12, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
110 buses still in service in TWM livery 80 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4342; 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (14)
4363; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Another one off the list
4562 now at Walsall, 4560 now returned to Wolverhampton

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 17, 2014, 08:45:40 AM

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
109 buses still in service in TWM livery 79 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1826; 1828; 1829; 1831; 1835 (10)
1814; 1821 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

4363 now back at YW; 4342 replaced it at Walsall for refurb

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2014, 10:05:24 AM

1814 (currently on the 8A) and 1821 both back at Bordesley painted
1826 & 1835 now both at Walsall for refurb

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
107 buses still in service in TWM livery 77 to paint and 30 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4573; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; 1655 (5) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2014, 06:46:17 PM

Soon be in double figures. 1655 has died at Coventry

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
106 buses still in service in TWM livery 77 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4407; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (10)
4402 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: BN on June 18, 2014, 06:52:09 PM

4573 going to Walsall tonight. Next one in from WN.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 18, 2014, 08:43:52 PM

Quote from: BN on June 18, 2014, 06:52:09 PM
4573 going to Walsall tonight. Next one in from WN.

Only saw that one this afternoon :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2014, 09:12:35 AM

Coventry 4407 is the latest one off the list, now at Walsall, with 4402 back at Coventry finished

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
105 buses still in service in TWM livery 76 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4244; 4246; 4276; 4281 (6)
4262; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2014, 09:21:30 PM

And another off the list. 4244 now at Walsall with 4262 back at Perry Barr finished

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
104 buses still in service in TWM livery 75 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4153; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4232; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (9)
4231; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2014, 10:41:10 PM

4232 latest to come off the list

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
103 buses still in service in TWM livery 74 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4157; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (7)
4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

[/quote]

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on June 23, 2014, 11:58:16 PM

When is 4177 going in for repaint again? I'm struggling to find the post @Tony [How you people can use this forum on a mobile telephone I'll never know! Terrible interface. Someone remind me to change it]

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: P419 EJW on June 24, 2014, 12:08:34 AM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 23, 2014, 11:58:16 PM
When is 4177 going in for repaint again? I'm struggling to find the post @Tony [How you people can use this forum on a mobile telephone I'll never know! Terrible interface. Someone remind me to change it]

iPhone 5 ftw. :P It's pretty much a mini internet. Same layout etc but in a small screen. :3

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on June 24, 2014, 12:12:27 AM

Quote from: P419 EJW on June 24, 2014, 12:08:34 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 23, 2014, 11:58:16 PM
When is 4177 going in for repaint again? I'm struggling to find the post @Tony [How you people can use this forum on a mobile telephone I'll never know! Terrible interface. Someone remind me to change it]

iPhone 5 ftw. :P It's pretty much a mini internet. Same layout etc but in a small screen. :3

It doesn't seem too bad on an s3 either. The only annoying thing is trying to scroll up and down through a post you're posting as there's no mini scroll bar to the right of the message box to get to the bottom/top of what you're writing...

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Sh4318 on June 24, 2014, 12:19:10 AM

I find it an almost inoperable (is that the word?!) experience on mobile. Near perfect for tablet though. @Liverpool Street shame about 4177, should've been destined for greater things with that livery

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: P419 EJW on June 24, 2014, 03:17:09 AM

Yes, that is a word! Definition here (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=inoperable). Not the word I would use, though. :P

Anyway, back on topic, I hope 4177 continues to have an overall advertisement (does that make sense?) like the Morrisons. If so, I wonder what would be the next advertisement for 4177.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2014, 06:20:40 AM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 23, 2014, 11:58:16 PM
When is 4177 going in for repaint again? I'm struggling to find the post @Tony [How you people can use this forum on a mobile telephone I'll never know! Terrible interface. Someone remind me to change it]

It will be due for repaint when the Morrisons advert is due to come off

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2014, 06:26:12 AM

4157 latest one off the list now 4153 back at BC

Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
102 buses still in service in TWM livery 73 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (6)
4157; 4316; 4613; 4626 currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; 4697 currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; 4732 (13)
4342; 4727 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on June 24, 2014, 02:59:40 PM

They're certainly getting through these repaints!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2014, 11:32:01 AM

Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2014, 06:26:12 AM

101 buses still in service in TWM livery 72 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (6)
4157; 4316; 4613; currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1828; 1829; 1831; (8 remaining)
1826; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
4342; 4732 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2014, 10:35:46 AM

Exactly 100 left now 1828 is off the list as it is now at Walsall. 1826 finished and back in service painted on the 55

Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2014, 06:26:12 AM

100 buses still in service in TWM livery 71 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (6)
4157; 4316; 4613; currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (7 remaining)
1828; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; 4356 (3)
4199 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
4342; 4732 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: karl724223 on July 02, 2014, 06:37:23 PM

4199 back

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2014, 06:44:06 PM

with 4199 back, 4356 has gone to Walsall, so down to double figures

Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2014, 06:26:12 AM

99 buses still in service in TWM livery 70 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4142; 4429; 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (6)
4157; 4316; 4613; currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (7 remaining)
1828; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
4356 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
4342; 4732 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

[/quote]

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 07:32:14 AM

Two more off the list this morning
4142 & 4429 have both gone to Walsall with 4316 returning to BC overninght

Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2014, 06:44:06 PM

97 buses still in service in TWM livery 68 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

AG - Nil
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4)
4142; 4157; 4429; 4613; currently being painted
BY - 1815; 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (7 remaining)
1828; 1835 currently being painted
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
4244; currently being painted
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
4356 being painted
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
4309 currently being painted
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 remaining)
4232; 4271 currently being painted
1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13) unlikely to be painted
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (11)
4562; 4564; 4573; currently being painted
1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
4342; 4732 being painted
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)
4407 being painted
1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 01:01:24 PM

1815 is the latest arrival at Walsall

Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 07:32:14 AM
95 buses still in service in TWM livery 66 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (6 )
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
WB - 4228; 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (8 )
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1828; 1835
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4309
WB 4232; 4271
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4342; 4732
CV 4407

[/quote]

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: uniquicity on July 03, 2014, 03:47:23 PM

I'm sure there are 66 to paint Tony, not 68. There are only 9 WN Tridents to be done but your list has 11 in brackets.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:51:36 PM

Quote from: uniquicity on July 03, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
I'm sure there are 66 to paint Tony, not 68. There are only 9 WN Tridents to be done but your list has 11 in brackets.

Cheers, I thought it was two less, couldn't work out what had happened

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM

4142 & 4429! At last! @Tony

Was it 4432 in Morrisons all over ad?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:55:53 PM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
4142 & 4429! At last! @Tony

Was it 4432 in Morrisons all over ad?

Still is along with 4177, presumably both will go in at the end of the contract

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:57:39 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
4142 & 4429! At last! @Tony

Was it 4432 in Morrisons all over ad?

Still is along with 4177, presumably both will go in at the end of the contract

Did 4177 go straight from TWM to NX-All Red? Or did it go through NEWM first?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on July 03, 2014, 04:11:15 PM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
4142 & 4429! At last! @Tony

Was it 4432 in Morrisons all over ad?

Still is along with 4177, presumably both will go in at the end of the contract

Did 4177 go straight from TWM to NX-All Red? Or did it go through NEWM first?

Julie went straight into NX All Red :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on July 03, 2014, 04:16:04 PM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 03, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
4142 & 4429! At last! @Tony

Was it 4432 in Morrisons all over ad?

Still is along with 4177, presumably both will go in at the end of the contract

Did 4177 go straight from TWM to NX-All Red? Or did it go through NEWM first?

It will be strange seeing 4177 in normal livery. When does the Morrison's ad contract end?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 03, 2014, 07:41:41 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on July 03, 2014, 03:47:23 PM
I'm sure there are 66 to paint Tony, not 68. There are only 9 WN Tridents to be done but your list has 11 in brackets.

Cheers, I thought it was two less, couldn't work out what had happened

Are any of WN's Tridents near completion yet?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2014, 10:21:54 PM

4271 now back at WB; 4228 replaced it at Walsall for refurb

Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 07:32:14 AM
94 buses still in service in TWM livery 65 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (6 )
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 1702; 3602; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (13)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1828; 1835
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4309
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4342; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 07, 2014, 11:32:04 AM

down to 92 now with the withdrawal of 1702 & 3602 from West Bromwich

Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2014, 07:32:14 AM
94 buses still in service in TWM livery 65 to paint and 29 to withdraw
revised list below.

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (6 )
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4132; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (11)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1697; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (11)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1828; 1835
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4309
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4342; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 10, 2014, 09:26:31 PM

Down to 90 now. 1697 has indeed ended its working life and 4132 at Walsall is now in for paint

Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 11:32:04 AM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1819; 1820; 1829; 1831; (6 )
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1828; 1835
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4342; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 10, 2014, 09:30:35 PM

@Tony Any news on the Enviro 200s, presume that WB are getting short of buses with the withdrawls earlier in the week and now the unexpected demise of 1697.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 11, 2014, 01:37:57 PM

and then there are 89

With 1835 now back at Bordesley, 1819 is now at Walsall for refurbishment

Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1820; 1829; 1831; (5)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4719; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (12)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1819; 1828
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4342; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

and then there are 88, probably 87

YW have collected 4342 and left 4719, 4570 was in service until 22:47 so hasn't made it to Walsall yet

Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1820; 1829; 1831; (5)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1819; 1828
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 11, 2014, 11:16:55 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

and then there are 88, probably 87

YW have collected 4342 and left 4719, 4570 was in service until 22:47 so hasn't made it to Walsall yet

Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1820; 1829; 1831; (5)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4570; 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12) unlikely to be painted
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4) unlikely to be painted

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1819; 1828
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4562; 4564; 4573
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Which service was 4570 on today? Wanted to find it this afternoon but couldn't see it.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:18:57 PM

4570 was on the 126 all day

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 11, 2014, 11:20:30 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:18:57 PM
4570 was on the 126 all day

Cheers Tony :) Should have waited at WN abit longer for it....

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2014, 09:07:41 AM

Now down to 87. 4570 is at Walsall

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1820; 1829; 1831; (5)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1819; 1828
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2014, 01:46:56 PM

86 - 1829 has gone to Walsall, and 1828 is back at Bordesley

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1820; 1831; (4)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1815; 1819; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

85 - 1820 has gone to Walsall, and 1815 is back at Bordesley

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:11:21 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

85 - 1820 has gone to Walsall, and 1815 is back at Bordesley
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Going to be tight as to whether BY or PE are the next garage with all buses in new livery!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on July 17, 2014, 08:14:25 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

85 - 1820 has gone to Walsall, and 1815 is back at Bordesley
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Going to be tight as to whether BY or PE are the next garage with all buses in new livery!

I never realised that we were that close to becoming completely red and white

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:21:48 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

85 - 1820 has gone to Walsall, and 1815 is back at Bordesley
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Going to be tight as to whether BY or PE are the next garage with all buses in new livery!

BY will beat PE

When 1820 which has just gone in returns BY will be old livery free as they are having 3 done at a time.
BC shouldn't be far behind. 4 to do and 4 away at any time, although with 4613 being rebuilt I think BY will be next

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:24:09 PM

yes that was my thinking that BY will beat PE, as 4356 will probably take quite a bit of work as it was in quite a state when it arrived at PE.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 17, 2014, 08:30:44 PM

WN will be only down to a few left by September with WN's Mercs being withdrawn and by the time September comes WN will only have a few Tridents left to paint.

Which garage has the most buses in TWM livery still?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:35:47 PM

Quote from: Nathan on July 17, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
WN will be only down to a few left by September with WN's Mercs being withdrawn and by the time September comes WN will only have a few Tridents left to paint.

Which garage has the most buses in TWM livery still?

Have a look at the list above. That is why I repost it every time it changes

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 17, 2014, 08:38:16 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 17, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
WN will be only down to a few left by September with WN's Mercs being withdrawn and by the time September comes WN will only have a few Tridents left to paint.

Which garage has the most buses in TWM livery still?

Have a look at the list above. That is why I repost it every time it changes

How stupid of me ::) Need to go to bed when i get home.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:42:24 PM

They are certainly moving with repaints at the moment, we only hit the 100 buses in service mark on the 02 July and now it's 85!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on July 17, 2014, 08:43:24 PM

Quote from: John on July 17, 2014, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:06:28 PM

85 - 1820 has gone to Walsall, and 1815 is back at Bordesley
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; 1636; (4)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Going to be tight as to whether BY or PE are the next garage with all buses in new livery!

I never realised that we were that close to becoming completely red and white

If you think about it, since 1969, they haven't been in a consistent livery & layout anyway.

How much of this is down to body styles or ownership changes I hate to work out!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:47:29 PM

Am quite surprised that NE aren't thinking of another livery change, what will the paintshop do when all the fleet is painted.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on July 17, 2014, 08:50:11 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
Am quite surprised that NE aren't thinking of another livery change, what will the paintshop do when all the fleet is painted.

Repaint/refurb the early NX liveried buses with connector bars that weren't refurb'd & the red is now pink?

Repaint/retrim the 57 plate E400's @ YW & WA

Quote from: Nathan on July 17, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
WN will be only down to a few left by September with WN's Mercs being withdrawn and by the time September comes WN will only have a few Tridents left to paint.

Which garage has the most buses in TWM livery still?

Are WN expecting to withdrawn all remaining Mercs or just some?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 17, 2014, 08:57:22 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:42:24 PM
They are certainly moving with repaints at the moment, we only hit the 100 buses in service mark on the 02 July and now it's 85!

West Bromwich's total could drop considerably next week when 6 more E200s enter service

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 09:01:45 PM

Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
Am quite surprised that NE aren't thinking of another livery change, what will the paintshop do when all the fleet is painted.

Repaint/refurb the early NX liveried buses with connector bars that weren't refurb'd & the red is now pink?

Repaint/retrim the 57 plate E400's @ YW & WA

I suppose they could finish off the PE Enviros that they didn't complete?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on July 17, 2014, 09:34:28 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 09:01:45 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
Am quite surprised that NE aren't thinking of another livery change, what will the paintshop do when all the fleet is painted.

Repaint/refurb the early NX liveried buses with connector bars that weren't refurb'd & the red is now pink?

Repaint/retrim the 57 plate E400's @ YW & WA

I suppose they could finish off the PE Enviros that they didn't complete?

Definitely, but I think priority should be given to tattier buses in early NXWM livery that weren't re-trimmed. The 09 plate E400's would be fine as they are for another 12 months

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on July 17, 2014, 09:41:07 PM

Early NX spec Omnilinks are getting on for 6 years old-ideally they'd be done. The PE 09 enviro's look pretty messy as do some WA b7rle's that were done earlier on. Plenty of geminis are unrefurbed inside and repainted pretty badly, as is the odd trident. The 03 ones look pretty untidy with connector bars etc.

All in all, I hope NX continue getting through repaints/refurbs at the same rate even when everything is in the same livery!!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on July 17, 2014, 09:45:15 PM

The Tridents and Geminis with only the repaint need to take priority. The Omnilinks at YW and AG may just need an internal retrim, as the bodywork is still in excellent condition on them. The WA ones though do look rather tatty. But I'd rather the Tridents and geminis go first, even above the older enviros.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: mranon on July 17, 2014, 10:27:55 PM

it would be nice to see the buses in a uniform livery and trim. as for the paintshop, maybe once fleet is all in the same livery, they could be busy with tidying up knocks and scrapes repaired by each garage to keep vehicles on the road to keep the fleet smarter.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 18, 2014, 12:26:19 PM

84 - with the death of 1636 at Coventry

This means exactly a quarter of the vehicles still in TWM livery are at Wolverhampton!

Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2014, 11:07:02 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4595; 4596 (9)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4564; 4573; 4570
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: lauren1993 on July 19, 2014, 09:09:00 PM

I have a feeling 1548, 1608 and 1612 will be goners by next week seeing as the reduced summer holidays time table has now begun. And by the time the normal time table resumes the new enviros will have been delivered won't they?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 19, 2014, 09:18:36 PM

Quote from: lauren1993 on July 19, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
I have a feeling 1548, 1608 and 1612 will be goners by next week seeing as the reduced summer holidays time table has now begun. And by the time the normal time table resumes the new enviros will have been delivered won't they?

You will be seeing TC liveried Mercedes for a bit longer than next week

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 23, 2014, 01:40:33 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
83 - 4595 is now at Trailways, Bloxwich for refurb

4573 should be returning to Wolverhampton soon

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (8)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4724; 4731; (11)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4573; 4595
YW 4719; 4732
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2014, 08:29:01 AM

82 - 4724 now at Walsall, 4732 finished and back at Yardley Wood

Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; 1831; (3)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4589; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (7)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1650; 1660; 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (12)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1819; 1820; 1829
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4573; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: BN on July 24, 2014, 04:59:12 PM

Tony,

Must admit I put this in refurbs section, we're picking up 4573 tonight and dropping off 4592.

Cheers

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 25, 2014, 08:28:37 AM

78 -
4589 now at Walsall, 4573 finished and back at Wolverhampton
1831 now at Walsall, 1819 finished and back at Bordesley
1650, 1660 out of use at Wolverhampton

Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; (2)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1696; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (10)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1820; 1829; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 26, 2014, 09:29:21 PM

77 -
1696 withdrawn at WB

Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; (2)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 1700; 3603; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (9)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1820; 1829; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2014, 06:20:58 PM

75 -
1700 & 3603 now confirmed withdrawn at WB

Also one more variant has now removed form the fleet with 1831 in for repaint - Last 'toothpaste' livery without silver stripes

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4611; 4615; 4627 (4) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; (2)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4142; 4157; 4429; 4613
BY 1820; 1829; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:02:23 PM

74 -

4611 from BC is now at Walsall; 4142 back at Central, and soon out. It did one trip on the 97 today

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; (2)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1820; 1829; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on July 29, 2014, 10:12:27 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2014, 09:02:23 PM

74 -

4611 from BC is now at Walsall; 4142 back at Central, and soon out. It did one trip on the 97 today

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1816; 1818; (2)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1820; 1829; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

I'll keep an eye out for 4142 tomorrow to try and get a pic :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2014, 06:59:26 PM

73 -

(possible 72, 1612 seems to have disappeared off the system)

1816 is now at Walsall with 1829 returned to Bordesley. The only remaining bus in toothpaste livery is currently at a place in Bedworth, so there are actually no buses in that livery currently in use.

4724 has also returned to Yardley Wood, but as yet no bus has gone in to replace it.

West Bromwich has now finished CV4407 which is now at Walsall for repaint. 4589 has replaced it at WB in the refurb bay.
Trailways currently have 4132, 4611 & 4595
Carlyle currently have 4613 & 4228
All others are being done at Walsall

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1818; (1)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; 1612; (3)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1820; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2014, 11:16:45 AM

72 -

1612 is now withdrawn

4724 is back at Walsall, which explains why YW didn't send anything else over

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1818; (1)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1820; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

72 -

Not sure whether to drop the above total to 71. 1820 is now back at Bordesley. The only BY bus on still in Toothpaste livery, 1818 is still at a MAN dealer in Bedworth, so I am fairly sure it will never be seen in service again and will go straight to Walsall on return.

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1818; (1)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4349; 4353; (2)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419; 4420 (9)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4356
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: P419 EJW on July 31, 2014, 08:35:38 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

72 -

Not sure whether to drop the above total to 71. 1820 is now back at Bordesley. The only BY bus on still in Toothpaste livery, 1818 is still at a MAN dealer in Bedworth, so I am fairly sure it will never be seen in service again and will go straight to Walsall on return.

Could I ask what happened to 1818? Have I missed something about it on here?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:36:30 PM

Quote from: P419 EJW on July 31, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

72 -

Not sure whether to drop the above total to 71. 1820 is now back at Bordesley. The only BY bus on still in Toothpaste livery, 1818 is still at a MAN dealer in Bedworth, so I am fairly sure it will never be seen in service again and will go straight to Walsall on return.

Could I ask what happened to 1818? Have I missed something about it on here?

No idea why it is there, but it is, I did mention it was there further up in this thread, but without a reason

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ex BC driver on July 31, 2014, 09:28:04 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:36:30 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 31, 2014, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

72 -

Not sure whether to drop the above total to 71. 1820 is now back at Bordesley. The only BY bus on still in Toothpaste livery, 1818 is still at a MAN dealer in Bedworth, so I am fairly sure it will never be seen in service again and will go straight to Walsall on return.

Could I ask what happened to 1818? Have I missed something about it on here?

No idea why it is there, but it is, I did mention it was there further up in this thread, but without a reason

Was 1835 there the other day as it was on the M6 heading north by Corley services?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 05, 2014, 08:37:44 PM

70 -

4349 & 4420 now at Walsall coming off the list, 4356 back at Pensnett, 4407 should be resady to go to Coventry tomorrow

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
BY - 1818; (1)
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 06, 2014, 12:54:15 PM

69 -

1818 is now at Walsall, so that completes Bordesley garage and the single deck fleet for repainting.

Quote
In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1651; 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (7)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4407; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2014, 02:39:03 PM

Total 68 -

1651 has died and gone to bus heaven an Miller Street.

Only 86 active Mercs left now, Winston

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4157; 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on August 08, 2014, 04:05:19 PM

The total number is really tumbling down! Someone in the paint shop has pulled their finger out! Fair play!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2014, 01:37:23 PM

Total 68 -

4157 now back at BC completed, none of the 4 below gone to Walsall to replace it yet

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276; 4281 (5)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818; 1831
PB 4244
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2014, 07:59:21 AM

Total 67 -

4281 latest of the list, now at Walsall for refurbishment with 4244 back at Perry Barr

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276 (4)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818; 1831
PB 4281
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2014, 11:12:51 AM

Total 67 -

Still 67, but 1831 now back at Bordesley finished

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276 (4)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4248; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (7)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4417; 4419 (8 )

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4429; 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818
PB 4281
PE 4349
WA 4132
WB 4228; 4232
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2014, 01:16:32 PM

Total 65 -

4248 now at Walsall, 4228 back at West Bromwich finished
4417 from Coventry also now in

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276 (4)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4131; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (10)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4270; 4273; 4297 (6)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (7)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1816; 1818
PB 4281
PE 4349
WA
WB 4248
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4417; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 20, 2014, 03:27:24 PM

Total 64 -

WA 4131 & WB 4270 now in for paint at Walsall

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4242; 4246; 4276 (4)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (9)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4401; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (7)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1818
PB 4281
PE 4349
WA 4131
WB 4248; 4270
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4417; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 20, 2014, 06:18:29 PM

Total 61 - (to be painted 43, to be withdrawn 18)

CV 4401 & PB 4242 also arrived at Walsall today

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (9)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (7)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (6)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1818
PB 4242; 4281
PE 4349
WA 4131
WB 4248; 4270
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on August 21, 2014, 09:36:33 PM

Total 61 - (to be painted 43, to be withdrawn 18) - possibly 60 3605 may have died

4570 has returned to Wolverhampton; 4587 has gone to Walsall

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In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (9)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1818
PB 4242; 4281
PE 4349
WA 4131
WB 4248; 4270
WN 4587; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 21, 2014, 09:43:00 PM

Looks like it will be a race between YW & WA to see which garage has the last bus in old livery with PE likely to be the next garage totally new livery garage,

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: uniquicity on September 01, 2014, 01:07:43 PM

I have been told that 1818 is back in service repainted, so all the Scanias should be done now

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

Total 55 - (to be painted 37, to be withdrawn 18)

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

While I have been in Spain
1818; 4595; 4611; 4719 & 4724 have all been completed
4353 has gone to Carlyle for accident repairs
4137; 4374; 4615 & 4722 have all gone to Walsall for refurb

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 03, 2014, 02:16:29 PM

Total 54 - (to be painted 37, to be withdrawn 17)

3605 has arrived at Miller Street today

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on September 03, 2014, 03:13:12 PM

Intrigued to know, now vehicles are being withdrawn in NX livery, was there a 'cut off date' for certain classes of vehicles that had to be repainted?

For example, how many B6's were still in service when the repaints started?

If B6's were only meant to last say another 5 years, would it have been worth them being repainted, while Presidents would last say 10 years so those would've been worth repainting.

Mercedes, again, apart from the ones moved from Coventry into the main fleet, what was the likely length of retention?

I suppose apart from really bad examples externally that were ok mechanically, surely the livery change could've been done via natural wastage & fleet renewal?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 08, 2014, 06:26:34 PM

Total 53 - (to be painted 36, to be withdrawn 17)

4415 now at Walsall, 4417 back at Coventry

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 09, 2014, 08:21:28 AM

Total 52 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 17)

4718 is now at Walsall for refurbishment

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415; 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 10, 2014, 12:39:16 PM

Total 51 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 16)

3610 is now at Miller Street withdrawn

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2014, 09:27:15 AM

Total 50 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

Down by one with the death of 1683 at Wolverhampton
although it may go back up by 1 as 4353 has had accident repairs finished at Carlyle and is now having mechanical repairs at a place in Great Bridge. It may return to Pensnett for a couple of weeks in old livery.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(YW); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 12, 2014, 03:58:57 PM

Total 51 - (to be painted 36, to be withdrawn 15)

Back up 1 as 4353 is now back at Pensnett repaired, but not refurbished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668(currently at PE); 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on September 12, 2014, 05:44:55 PM

Is it my imagination or is the volume of buses in works for refurb lowering? It used to be around 20 at a time. If the same engineering policy was being followed you'd expect early NXWM livered vehicles to be starting to trickle through. I couldn't help noticing the NXWM engineering director has moved to Arriva NE - I wonder if there will be any change.

The standard of the fleet had improved massively over recent years - but hopefully it won't be a flash in the pan and back to the old ways.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 12, 2014, 06:19:14 PM

Quote from: don on September 12, 2014, 05:44:55 PM
Is it my imagination or is the volume of buses in works for refurb lowering? It used to be around 20 at a time. If the same engineering policy was being followed you'd expect early NXWM livered vehicles to be starting to trickle through. I couldn't help noticing the NXWM engineering director has moved to Arriva NE - I wonder if there will be any change.

The standard of the fleet had improved massively over recent years - but hopefully it won't be a flash in the pan and back to the old ways.

No, the level is actually higher than it has been since Tyburn Road shut. Up until a couple of years ago it was normally about 7 in the paintshop, two at BC and one at Walsall garage. Each garage would normally have one bus in for repaint at ant time.

Now, with the BC refurb bays moved to Walsall there is normally 3 there, one at West Bromwich and three at Trailways with Carlyle doing accident repairs. The paintshop cannot take more than about 7 on space grounds

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2014, 06:58:38 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2014, 09:27:15 AM
Total 50 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

Down by one with the death of 1683 at Wolverhampton
although it may go back up by 1 as 4353 has had accident repairs finished at Carlyle and is now having mechanical repairs at a place in Great Bridge. It may return to Pensnett for a couple of weeks in old livery.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(YW); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

This place in Great Bridge, is it on the Spine Road as I saw a Merc go there a few months back?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stu on September 12, 2014, 07:18:09 PM

Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
This place in Great Bridge, is it on the Spine Road as I saw a Merc go there a few months back?

Carlyle Bus Parts are on Great Bridge Street, just off the Spine Road by the island, the 74 goes right past it.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 12, 2014, 08:42:39 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
Quote from: don on September 12, 2014, 05:44:55 PM
Is it my imagination or is the volume of buses in works for refurb lowering? It used to be around 20 at a time. If the same engineering policy was being followed you'd expect early NXWM livered vehicles to be starting to trickle through. I couldn't help noticing the NXWM engineering director has moved to Arriva NE - I wonder if there will be any change.

The standard of the fleet had improved massively over recent years - but hopefully it won't be a flash in the pan and back to the old ways.

No, the level is actually higher than it has been since Tyburn Road shut. Up until a couple of years ago it was normally about 7 in the paintshop, two at BC and one at Walsall garage. Each garage would normally have one bus in for repaint at ant time.

Now, with the BC refurb bays moved to Walsall there is normally 3 there, one at West Bromwich and three at Trailways with Carlyle doing accident repairs. The paintshop cannot take more than about 7 on space grounds

Not sure if still the norm? But we all did the WA garage tour, there were three buses in the refurbishment bays inside the main garage plus another 2 ALX400's being re-panelled bottom end/right-hand wall of the paintshop as well. With 9 buses in the actual paintshop with the spray booth empty.

Back then though, I think Trailways might have only be dealing with two buses at a time.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:32 PM

Quote from: Stu on September 12, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
This place in Great Bridge, is it on the Spine Road as I saw a Merc go there a few months back?

Carlyle Bus Parts are on Great Bridge Street, just off the Spine Road by the island, the 74 goes right past it.

No this place was on the section between Monks & Crane island & Great Bridge.

Renault place I think!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 13, 2014, 01:01:19 AM

Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2014, 11:04:32 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 12, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
This place in Great Bridge, is it on the Spine Road as I saw a Merc go there a few months back?

Carlyle Bus Parts are on Great Bridge Street, just off the Spine Road by the island, the 74 goes right past it.

No this place was on the section between Monks & Crane island & Great Bridge.

Renault place I think!

Renault truck place? If so I've seen TWM Metrobuses there in the past

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on September 13, 2014, 07:33:49 AM

Do NX still deal with Hartshornes in Walsall by the way?

When I first started work on the old Yts over 25 years ago I did a couple of weeks there filing invoices & noted some invoices with West Midlands Travel on, plus I spotted a Leyland National there when I passed by there not long after.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 13, 2014, 01:41:04 PM

Quote from: Westy on September 13, 2014, 07:33:49 AM
Do NX still deal with Hartshornes in Walsall by the way?

When I first started work on the old Yts over 25 years ago I did a couple of weeks there filing invoices & noted some invoices with West Midlands Travel on, plus I spotted a Leyland National there when I passed by there not long after.

I believe they do for any Volvo work.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: mranon on September 13, 2014, 08:34:42 PM

i bet the nationals might have been there for either steam cleaning or having attention to engine (some were repowered with volvo thd engines as found in b10m etc)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 15, 2014, 10:34:24 AM

Total 50 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

Down 1 with 4130 now off the road for refurbishment at Walsall
also a slight change as 1668 is now showing as a Pensnett bus

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (7)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 1666; 3612; 3614 (3)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 15, 2014, 03:54:38 PM

Total 50 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

4242 now back at Perry Barr finished, no replacement yet gone to Walsall

Down 1 with 4130 now off the road for refurbishment at Walsall
also a slight change as 1668 is now showing as a Pensnett bus

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (7)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 1666; 3612; 3614 (3)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1685 (9)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 15, 2014, 10:02:05 PM

well that seems strange, if PE were short couldn't they have bought back 1649 which looks like it doesn't have a lot wrong with it!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 15, 2014, 10:15:59 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 15, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
well that seems strange, if PE were short couldn't they have bought 1649 which looks like it doesn't have a lot wrong with it!

It looks in good nick from the outside, but they're may things wrong with underneath/mechanically that aren't immediately apparent. 1649 has been withdrawn for a reason that isn't worth the cost of repairing, otherwise an older one in poorer condition would have been selected instead

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: karl724223 on September 15, 2014, 11:09:53 PM

Might not have a mot

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 16, 2014, 12:34:06 PM

Total 49 - (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 14)

1666 now withdrawn at Miller Street

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (7)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612; 3614 (2)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1685 (9)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 16, 2014, 07:47:04 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 12:34:06 PM
Total 48 - (to be painted 34, to be withdrawn 14)

4306 now in for refurb at Walsall, 4131 now finished and currently out on the 77

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612; 3614 (2)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1685 (9)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 17, 2014, 10:13:13 AM

Total 47 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 14)

4276 now in for refurb at Walsall

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612; 3614 (2)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1685 (9)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 17, 2014, 01:44:34 PM

Total 46 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 13)

3614 now withdrawn at Miller Street

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612 (1)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1685 (9)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 17, 2014, 02:38:19 PM

Total 45 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 12)

1682 has now died at Wolverhampton

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612 (1)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1685 (8 )
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on September 17, 2014, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
Total 45 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 12)

1682 has now died at Wolverhampton

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612 (1)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1685 (8 )
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

R.I.P 1682 :( you knew I'd say that though

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 17, 2014, 07:34:19 PM

What's the progress on 4613? Any photos of it currently?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Eric Shaw on September 17, 2014, 07:46:24 PM

I saw 3614 on the 41 in West Bromwich yesterday morning. Must have been it's last day.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: 4130Quinton on September 17, 2014, 09:36:06 PM

Quote from: Ashley on September 17, 2014, 06:02:37 PM

R.I.P 1682 :( you knew I'd say that though

I set out to track down 1672 yesterday, the only one still in original livery and got it on the 82. Very impressed with it, powerful, smooth running and virtually rattle free. It probably only has a matter of days left in service though :'(

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 17, 2014, 09:59:06 PM

Yep, 1672 is fantastic, a real shame it was never refurbished/painted, but for its age its incredible considering its never been touched since the day it was bought, doubt any of the current deliveries will last that long

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Chris2301 on September 18, 2014, 05:30:19 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
Total 45 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 12)

1682 has now died at Wolverhampton

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612 (1)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1685 (8 )
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Thought all PE buses are repainted. Has it gained 4353 from another garage?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 18, 2014, 05:49:51 PM

Quote from: Chris2301 on September 18, 2014, 05:30:19 PM

Thought all PE buses are repainted. Has it gained 4353 from another garage?

No 4353 is a PE and has been for a while.

It suffered accident damage and was sent to Carlyle for repair, Tony thought it would be refurbished at the same time, but it has come back to PE in TWM livery. Hence why it has been re-added on to the to do list

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stevo on September 18, 2014, 05:53:33 PM

1548 still active today in Coventry in spite of all the new E400s.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on September 18, 2014, 06:11:59 PM

Quote from: Stevo on September 18, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
1548 still active today in Coventry in spite of all the new E400s.

Just an idea but could some of Coventrys Mercs be clinging on so that refurbs of the ALX's can be fully completed without being short of vehicles, just an idea though

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 18, 2014, 06:13:04 PM

Total 42 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 9)

big drop today 1669; 1674 & 1679 have all now died at Wolverhampton.

(3612 also didn't venture out today, don't know if it will again yet)

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WB 3612 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

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Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 18, 2014, 07:25:48 PM

Wow! Is there any progress on 4613? Any photos of her being repaired?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Dutsey on September 18, 2014, 07:40:30 PM

Saw one in TWM livery on the way home from work this evening on the 70 turning from Water Orton on its way to Coleshill. Sorry I didnt get the fleet number.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 18, 2014, 07:48:40 PM

Quote from: Dutsey on September 18, 2014, 07:40:30 PM
Saw one in TWM livery on the way home from work this evening on the 70 turning from Water Orton on its way to Coleshill. Sorry I didnt get the fleet number.

not too hard to work out from the list above, BC only have 4627 in service now

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 18, 2014, 08:53:10 PM

With all these Mercs at WN being withdrawn, Does this mean the B6's are staying?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2014, 09:03:01 PM

Quote from: Nathan on September 18, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
With all these Mercs at WN being withdrawn, Does this mean the B6's are staying?

Yes Nathan, i wondered that?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 18, 2014, 09:51:05 PM

As some of you will no doubt have worked out, the current intention is that following the completion of the new bus deliveries next month and subsequent cascades WN will lose all of its Merc's, WA & WB their B6's and YW their B10L's. Now is the time for your last rides.

The intention is that the remaining B6's will be concentrated at WN, the remaining B10L's at WA; and the last Merc's at PE, WB and CV.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2014, 09:56:28 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 09:51:05 PM
As some of you will no doubt have worked out, the current intention is that following the completion of the new bus deliveries next month and subsequent cascades WN will lose all of its Merc's, WA & WB their B6's and YW their B10L's. Now is the time for your last rides.

The intention is that the remaining B6's will be concentrated at WN, the remaining B10L's at WA; and the last Merc's at PE, WB and CV.

Thanks for the clarification Tony!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM

Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 18, 2014, 10:20:51 PM

Quote from: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 18, 2014, 10:24:30 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

And the B6LE & B10L's that are set to remain in service are obviously in better condition than some of the Mercs which are younger

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 18, 2014, 10:35:19 PM

I just knew WN would keep its B6's a while longer! As it would be stupid not to keep them instead of really worn out Mercs

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 18, 2014, 10:39:00 PM

Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 18, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
I just knew WN would keep its B6's a while longer! As it would be stupid not to keep them instead of really worn out Mercs

It's a certainly a good advert for Wrightbus bodywork with both B10L's & B6LE's seeing in 2015 in service

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: P419 EJW on September 18, 2014, 10:52:30 PM

Quote from: Winston on September 18, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 18, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
I just knew WN would keep its B6's a while longer! As it would be stupid not to keep them instead of really worn out Mercs

It's a certainly a good advert for Wrightbus bodywork with both B10L's & B6LE's seeing in 2015 in service

Oh, it is!! ;D This just made me happy! ;D ;D

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on September 18, 2014, 11:37:54 PM

So would this mean wN's B6 fleet increase but only consist of the better examples ie 638 needs putting out of its misery. Would the same be done with B10's and Mercs, only the best will survive as long as they're red and white

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 19, 2014, 07:04:54 AM

What new vehicles will be coming in to YW to replace the B10L's. I never want them to be withdrawn. I think they only have 1 ZF.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on September 19, 2014, 07:46:46 AM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 19, 2014, 07:04:54 AM
What new vehicles will be coming in to YW to replace the B10L's. I never want them to be withdrawn. I think they only have 1 ZF.

Walsall OmniStinks transferring to Yardley Wood, just a few

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 19, 2014, 08:59:23 AM

Total 41 - (to be painted 33, to be withdrawn 8)

big drop today 1669; 1674 & 1679 have all now died at Wolverhampton.

3612 now at Miller Street, so Wednesday was the last day of Darts carrying passengers

4589 is also back at Wolverhampton finished, but all 5 old livery Tridents at WN are in service today, so no replacement in paint yet

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4420

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on September 19, 2014, 11:38:52 PM

The slow demise of the Travel days are approaching fast. With the old Mercs and B6/10's falling like flies it won't be long before only true 'modern' vehicles remain. I class B7TL Presidents as modern after their intensive refurbs a few years ago.

No more blue in Birmingham soon!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on September 20, 2014, 05:21:27 PM

Modern buses are surely ones you can still buy new which would include types such as Enviros, Gemini's, E200/300, Solos but not Plaxton Presidents and ALX400's which are no longer available.

Buses are part of cities identity and like Birmingham Central it's unfortunate that National Express only retained a local identity in Coventry, albeit I would have preferred something based on 4453.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Mike K on September 20, 2014, 05:58:24 PM

Quote from: JoNi on September 20, 2014, 05:21:27 PM
Modern buses are surely ones you can still buy new which would include types such as Enviros, Gemini's, E200/300, Solos but not Plaxton Presidents and ALX400's which are no longer available.

Buses are part of cities identity and like Birmingham Central it's unfortunate that National Express only retained a local identity in Coventry, albeit I would have preferred something based on 4453.

I would argue that where Arriva, Stagecoach and First dominate, which let's face it is many major cities in the UK, neither the generic bus liveries nor the generic bus types are characteristic of a city anymore. Wherever you go the buses look the same. There was definitely a lot more character years back, with the differing liveries, and even buses that weren't exclusive to a particular region often looked very different in various parts of the country due e.g. to unique number and destination layouts. These days, you've seen one E400 or Wright Gemini you've seen them all. I'm glad that in my days of being an enthusiast there was a whole lot more to be enthusiastic about.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: paulb1973 on September 20, 2014, 09:20:20 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2014, 09:24:28 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on September 20, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

Not been altered to withdrawn on the company computer, but yes it will never run again

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on September 20, 2014, 09:25:22 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 20, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 20, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on September 18, 2014, 10:04:30 PM
Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

Not been altered to withdrawn on the company computer, but yes it will never run again

Has the preservation attempt been successful?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 22, 2014, 09:50:53 AM

Total 40 - (to be painted 32, to be withdrawn 8 )

4419 now at Walsall, 4420 back at Coventry finished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 22, 2014, 03:58:25 PM

4370 might be repainted once they decide on removing the all-over advert. It might happen!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: trident4370 on September 22, 2014, 05:11:52 PM

If anything I'd say 4370 will probably be one of the last buses to be repainted as it hasn't had that advert for more than 2 months, usually they seem to keep them on for around 12 months, although I guess different companies have different contracts so it might not stay on for that long.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 24, 2014, 11:52:41 AM

Total 39 - (to be painted 31, to be withdrawn 8 )

4590 now at Walsall for refurb

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

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Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2014, 03:32:23 PM

Will the O405Ns survive the visit of the last decker to the paintshop....? Suppose their MOT dates are the clincher.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on September 25, 2014, 12:07:32 PM

Refurbished 4420 seen being driven round in Coventry by mechanic already has rear advert on engine cover.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 25, 2014, 12:19:27 PM

Total 38 - (to be painted 30, to be withdrawn 8 )

4722 back in service at YW; 4720 at walsall for refurb
4248 refurb finished at Walsall, not yet back at WB, called into place on Black Country route for attention on way back.
4270 refurb finished at Trailways now at Walsall for paint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4720 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 25, 2014, 03:47:08 PM

Total 37 - (to be painted 29, to be withdrawn 8 )

4722 back in service at YW. 4720 at Walsall for refurb
4248 back at WB, 4229 now at Trailways for refurb.
4137; 4270 refurb finished at Trailways now at Walsall for paint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Dutsey on September 25, 2014, 11:05:27 PM

Saw the 4308 on the 77 in Sutton today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/15167699900/in/set-72157648020517122

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Cheese on September 26, 2014, 10:57:10 AM

Just seen 4281 on the 16 looking very shiny, first day out maybe after repaint?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 26, 2014, 12:25:45 PM

Quote from: Cheese on September 26, 2014, 10:57:10 AM
Just seen 4281 on the 16 looking very shiny, first day out maybe after repaint?

Yes it is, no replacement gone to Walsall from PB yet, just for contrast with 4281, both old liveried PB buses 4241 & 4246 are also on the 16!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Dutsey on September 26, 2014, 09:14:38 PM

BX02 AUC seen in Sutton Coldfield working the route 6.

https://flic.kr/p/p82bCL

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 27, 2014, 08:30:00 PM

Total 36 - (to be painted 28, to be withdrawn 8 )

Down to the last three dozen! 4353 now at Walsall with 4349 back at pensnett

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 27, 2014, 08:34:11 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2014, 08:30:00 PM

Total 36 - (to be painted 28, to be withdrawn 8 )

Down to the last three dozen! 4353 now at Walsall with 4349 back at pensnett

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

When did 4718 arrive at Walsall?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 27, 2014, 08:40:57 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2014, 08:30:00 PM

Total 36 - (to be painted 28, to be withdrawn 8 )

Down to the last three dozen! 4353 now at Walsall with 4349 back at pensnett

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

That news would normally have made me happy as that would have made PE totally new livery, but now we have 1668 it's not. However as they are not changing it's blinds, one can only expect that 1668 doesn't have long left! (PLEASE)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on September 27, 2014, 09:13:13 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 27, 2014, 08:40:57 PM

That news would normally have made me happy as that would have made PE totally new livery, but now we have 1668 it's not. However as they are not changing it's blinds, one can only expect that 1668 doesn't have long left! (PLEASE)

Don't forget Stu that Pensnett have had a fair few buses off with RTA damage and 4194 & 4804 have been in the deadbox for a while. Pensnett have since received 4191 and no doubt 4192 will follow. I expect 1668 is temporary only given it's neither refurbished or repainted.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 27, 2014, 09:19:52 PM

Quote from: Winston on September 27, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 27, 2014, 08:40:57 PM

That news would normally have made me happy as that would have made PE totally new livery, but now we have 1668 it's not. However as they are not changing it's blinds, one can only expect that 1668 doesn't have long left! (PLEASE)

Don't forget Stu that Pensnett have had a fair few buses off with RTA damage and 4194 & 4804 have been in the deadbox for a while. Pensnett have since received 4191 and no doubt 4192 will follow. I expect 1668 is temporary only given it's neither refurbished or repainted.

Think 4194 is becoming another 4135, sounded dreadful awhile ago when i saw it in Dudley and was blowing black smoke, several days it was ok, but now its in the deadbox again, wonder if it needs a new engine. Certainly being in the deadbox awhile, it's certainly awaiting something.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 29, 2014, 04:11:59 PM

Total 35 - (to be painted 27, to be withdrawn 8 )

4401 back at Coventry with 4416 in for refurb

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on September 29, 2014, 04:27:11 PM

Anything special planned for the last one? A major achievement after all.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: paulb1973 on September 29, 2014, 05:32:42 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2014, 04:11:59 PM
Total 35 - (to be painted 27, to be withdrawn 8 )

4401 back at Coventry with 4416 in for refurb

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

4416 - was the last CV Volvo B7TL/ALX400 in the old livery.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stevo on September 29, 2014, 07:04:37 PM

I'd like to see something repainted in TWM livery and at the same time other vehicles should be repainted in heritage liveries - not just the old municipal fleets but WMPTE livery and earlier WM Travel - this would emphasise the continuity of local bus operation.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on September 29, 2014, 07:21:30 PM

Interestingly 4342, which has been refurbished, still has the exact same graffiti mark on the lower side panel by the first row left seat on the upper deck, which was there before the refurbishment. I thought refurbishments were meant to actually remove graffiti, not leave it there!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 29, 2014, 08:26:38 PM

They have never put the 2005-2007 toothpaste livery on the ALX400's, they should actually do that to one of them.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 29, 2014, 09:18:20 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 29, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
They have never put the 2005-2007 toothpaste livery on the ALX400's, they should actually do that to one of them.

Why? I can see the point of heritage liveries, but there are still two buses in service in that livery anyway

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2014, 02:20:27 PM

Total 34 - (to be painted 26, to be withdrawn 8 )

4246 now in Walsall paintshop, looks like PB will be the next garage finished, 4241 should go in when 4271 is finished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 30, 2014, 04:31:45 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 29, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
They have never put the 2005-2007 toothpaste livery on the ALX400's, they should actually do that to one of them.

Why? I can see the point of heritage liveries, but there are still two buses in service in that livery anyway

I will actually find it interesting seeing an ALX400 in that livery. Since the Scania K230UBs, B10Ls, Plaxton Presidents, Gemini's, Enviros, Scanias N230UBs and the B7RLEs had that livery. I wondered why they never put those on the ALX400's.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2014, 06:26:34 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 30, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 29, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
They have never put the 2005-2007 toothpaste livery on the ALX400's, they should actually do that to one of them.

Why? I can see the point of heritage liveries, but there are still two buses in service in that livery anyway
I will actually find it interesting seeing an ALX400 in that livery. Since the Scania K230UBs, B10Ls, Plaxton Presidents, Gemini's, Enviros, Scanias N230UBs and the B7RLEs had that livery. I wondered why they never put those on the ALX400's.

You will need to use photoshop then, because that is one thing I guarantee you will never see in real life. Even if in the future a bus is painted in that as a heritage livery I am certain it won't be an ALX and it is so expensive to apply, you would have to get drawings done and special curved silver strips made that no preservationist would ever apply it just for the novelty

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on September 30, 2014, 09:48:44 PM

Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2014, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 30, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 29, 2014, 08:26:38 PM
They have never put the 2005-2007 toothpaste livery on the ALX400's, they should actually do that to one of them.

Why? I can see the point of heritage liveries, but there are still two buses in service in that livery anyway
I will actually find it interesting seeing an ALX400 in that livery. Since the Scania K230UBs, B10Ls, Plaxton Presidents, Gemini's, Enviros, Scanias N230UBs and the B7RLEs had that livery. I wondered why they never put those on the ALX400's.

You will need to use photoshop then, because that is one thing I guarantee you will never see in real life. Even if in the future a bus is painted in that as a heritage livery I am certain it won't be an ALX and it is so expensive to apply, you would have to get drawings done and special curved silver strips made that no preservationist would ever apply it just for the novelty

I don't even know how to photoshop lel, but I will try.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 02, 2014, 03:22:01 PM

Total 31 - (to be painted 26, to be withdrawn 5)

It seems 1662; 1673 & 1681 have run their last journies (1680 has also been withdrawn at Coventry)
Expect it to drop two more tomorrow with the withdrawal of 1672 and another WB B7 going for paint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1672; 1685 (2)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on October 02, 2014, 11:15:16 PM

My first view today of a very classy looking Arriva 'Sapphire' E400 on show in Sutton. Was very impressive. When Tony's repaint figure hits zero wonder whether NXWM will review whether any amendments could be made to the simplistic red and white livery at some point in the future.
What do we think? The red and white is simple and presumably cheap to maintain, although the use of so much white in urban areas is questionable, but could it be improved and made more 'interesting' for both those who follow the fortunes of NXWM and passengers?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on October 03, 2014, 01:39:32 AM

Quote from: RW on October 02, 2014, 11:15:16 PM
My first view today of a very classy looking Arriva 'Sapphire' E400 on show in Sutton. Was very impressive. When Tony's repaint figure hits zero wonder whether NXWM will review whether any amendments could be made to the simplistic red and white livery at some point in the future.
What do we think? The red and white is simple and presumably cheap to maintain, although the use of so much white in urban areas is questionable, but could it be improved and made more 'interesting' for both those who follow the fortunes of NXWM and passengers?

I think the livery, when in good condition, is excellent and is sufficiently different from the other major groups to stand out, give a regional fleet identity, and maintain a link with the coach brand of National Express. I travelled on a number of Stagecoach Gold E400s in Torbay in the summer and was impressed although it was very obvious which vehicles were newest as the gold fades (rather like NXWMs earlier version of red). Not so sure about the faux coat of arms logos on the leather seats and floors............ I also have seen the new Arriva Southern Counties Sapphire E400s - an unashamed copy of Stagecoach's brand idea but also very nice - retaining blue though a modified version - not sure where the sapphire colour theme happens (sapphires being a purple colour?) - even the destination blinds are silvery letters on a black background (a bit like those silly TfL White on black monstrosities introduced with the new Routemaster but which are useless for people with poor sight).

I would think NXWM would need to come up with a different livery for the gold corridors but am hopeful the red and white will remain elsewhere. Let's just hope they get Best Impressions or similar to design it - and hopefully no strange coats of arms logos - what on earth were Stagecoach thinking!!!!!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 03, 2014, 03:14:34 PM

Total 29 - (to be painted 25, to be withdrawn 4)

End of another two eras,
4265 has gone for repaint today ending the 'green branding' era. 4270 now back at WB
1672 hasn't come out to play today, presumed dead ending the original low floor livery era

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1685 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 06, 2014, 06:27:46 PM

Total 29 - (to be painted 25, to be withdrawn 4)

4137 now finished and back at the garage

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1685 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4306(WA); 4329 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(WA)
WN 4587(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Wolves256 on October 06, 2014, 08:39:34 PM

Thanks for the updates Tony
I see CV still have 2 in old liv, have CV actually withdrawn 13mercs following receipt of the E400s?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 06, 2014, 09:15:25 PM

Quote from: Wolves256 on October 06, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
Thanks for the updates Tony
I see CV still have 2 in old liv, have CV actually withdrawn 13mercs following receipt of the E400s?

Some have been kept as a 'paint float' to allow three deckers away at a time to get them painted quicker

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Wolves256 on October 06, 2014, 10:22:27 PM

Ok thanks for update
I assume when all buses are in NXWM liv the current refurb/ painting will continue at the current rate
I visited Birmingham on Saturday and the standard of fleet presentation has clearly improved in recent years, however there are a number of early NXWM liv vehicles (with the connection bars) that will need a repaint/ refurb such as the 997 E400s and 50 E400s

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 07, 2014, 04:10:01 PM

Total 27 - (to be painted 24, to be withdrawn 3)

4588 now at Walsall, 4587 finished back at Wolverhampton, 1685 has also now retired at Wolverhampton.

Yesterday's has been updated because although Walsall parked 4329 outside the paintshop when they collected 4137, it is still in service today
4613's seats have now gone from Miller Street, so I presume the repairs to the fire damage are not far off complete

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4306(WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 07, 2014, 09:04:47 PM

Our lone 4241 is still soldering on in its old colours. On the 7 today, even made it out on the 16 on Sunday, it seemed to be following me last week, on the same routes as me. I would like to get a drive of it this week before I'm back on the 33 next week, but somehow I don't think I'll be that lucky!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 08, 2014, 10:44:18 AM

Forgot to say 4137 was back in service on the 89 yesterday freshly repainted

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2014, 11:52:56 AM

Total 26 - (to be painted 23, to be withdrawn 3)

4308 has now gone round to the paintshop

I suspect it is actually 25 as 1668 hasn't been out for two days at Pensnett

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4306(WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(Trailways); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: karl724223 on October 09, 2014, 06:37:47 PM

Not yet might be out tomorrow don't know how long for though

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on October 10, 2014, 03:34:43 PM

4718 back at YW.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2014, 03:52:53 PM

Total 25 - (to be painted 22, to be withdrawn 3)

4370 has now gone to the paintshop from YW with 4718 returning home eliminating the Nokia adverts

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2) + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (5)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

of these 4177; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4246(WA); 4276(WA);
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4306(WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WA); 4374(WB); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on October 10, 2014, 05:15:39 PM

Was it seriously worth putting the Nokia ads on! Looking forward to see 4370 coming back refurb'd though.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 13, 2014, 01:31:22 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on October 10, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Was it seriously worth putting the Nokia ads on! Looking forward to see 4370 coming back refurb'd though.

The adverts ran for the contract length, why would it not be worth putting them on. Two buses in need of a repaint anyway earn a few extra pounds for NXWM from the advertising agency while waiting to go to Walsall

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 13, 2014, 01:54:01 PM

Total 24 - (to be painted 21, to be withdrawn 3)

4627 is now at Walsall for refurb with 4615 back at Birmingham Central meaning BC is without any in full old livery, just the front of 4432 left there until the Morrisons advert contracts expire.
4276 has also been finished and sent back to Perry Barr, but last remaining bus there 4241 is still out on the 67 today.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (5)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4374(WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: wbdriver on October 14, 2014, 03:02:50 PM

i think 4374 might be at WA for painting now, as i saw a double decker bus with fresh metal panels heading down All Saints Way in WB this morning.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Rob H on October 15, 2014, 02:13:24 PM

Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
Total 24 - (to be painted 21, to be withdrawn 3)

4627 is now at Walsall for refurb with 4615 back at Birmingham Central meaning BC is without any in full old livery, just the front of 4432 left there until the Morrisons advert contracts expire.
4276 has also been finished and sent back to Perry Barr, but last remaining bus there 4241 is still out on the 67 today.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (5)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WA); 4374(WB); 4720(WA)
CV 4415(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

4615 was out on the 60 today looking smart :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/14922089133/

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2014, 02:31:25 PM

Total 23 - (to be painted 20, to be withdrawn 3)

4723 now at Walsall, 4720 back at Yardley Wood finished.

Trailways have finished 4130 and it is now back at Walsall for painting. 4370 has gone to WB for refurb

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4731; (4)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; (3)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4374(WA); 4723(WA)
CV 4415(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2014, 07:10:07 PM

Total 22 - (to be painted 19, to be withdrawn 3)

4409 now at Walsall; 4415 finished and back at Coventry

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4731; (4)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4374(WA); 4723(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2014, 10:56:34 PM

Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
Total 22 - (to be painted 19, to be withdrawn 3)

4130 now back in Walsall garage finished
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4130.html
none of Walsall's remaining 5 gone round to replace it yet

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; 4731; (4)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4374(WA); 4723(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 21, 2014, 11:53:56 AM

Total 21 - (to be painted 18, to be withdrawn 3)

Toothpaste livery is no more!
4374 is now back at Yardley Wood and 4731, which was the last Enviro 400 not in red/white and also the last bus in toothpaste livery is now at Walsall for repaint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; 4332 (5)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4594; 4596 (3)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4306(WA); 4308 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4590(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2014, 01:44:08 PM

Total 19 - (to be painted 16, to be withdrawn 3)

4594 now at Walsall with 4590 finished back at Wolverhampton
4332 from Walsall now been moved around to the paintshop

Trailways have now finished 4229 and it is now at Walsall for paint, 4308 is now at Trailways for refurb

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; (4)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4306(WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (WA)
WB 4229 (WA); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 23, 2014, 01:00:18 PM

Total 19 - (to be painted 16, to be withdrawn 3)

4306 now finished and back in Walsall garage. Nothing in paint yet to replace it.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; (4)
WB - 4264; 4273; 4297 (3)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (WA)
WB 4229 (WA); 4265(Trailways)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 23, 2014, 02:52:29 PM

All 3 West Brom TWM liveried deckers all entered the Bus Station one after another this afternoon. 4297 on the 80, 4273 on the 83 and 4264 on the 5. Very nostalgic!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on October 23, 2014, 02:55:28 PM

Quote from: John on October 23, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
All 3 West Brom TWM liveried deckers all entered the Bus Station one after another this afternoon. 4297 on the 80, 4273 on the 83 and 4264 on the 5. Very nostalgic!

John, I'd get yourself a ticket for tomorrow's £150 million Euro Million's jackpot ;)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 23, 2014, 06:29:28 PM

Quote from: Winston on October 23, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
Quote from: John on October 23, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
All 3 West Brom TWM liveried deckers all entered the Bus Station one after another this afternoon. 4297 on the 80, 4273 on the 83 and 4264 on the 5. Very nostalgic!

John, I'd get yourself a ticket for tomorrow's £150 million Euro Million's jackpot ;)

I should, shouldn't I! It was so strange seeing 3 buses in a row still in the TWM livery, with the very small number remaining in TWM livery. I also managed to find 1668 on a 289 as well

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on October 23, 2014, 07:16:31 PM

Quote from: John on October 23, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
All 3 West Brom TWM liveried deckers all entered the Bus Station one after another this afternoon. 4297 on the 80, 4273 on the 83 and 4264 on the 5. Very nostalgic!

Like on Wednesday when I saw 2 TWM ALX400s right by eachother.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on October 23, 2014, 08:22:12 PM

Quote from: John on October 23, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 23, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
Quote from: John on October 23, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
All 3 West Brom TWM liveried deckers all entered the Bus Station one after another this afternoon. 4297 on the 80, 4273 on the 83 and 4264 on the 5. Very nostalgic!

John, I'd get yourself a ticket for tomorrow's £150 million Euro Million's jackpot ;)

I should, shouldn't I! It was so strange seeing 3 buses in a row still in the TWM livery, with the very small number remaining in TWM livery. I also managed to find 1668 on a 289 as well

Definitely, get that ticket bought! No bad going considering WB only have the 3 you saw left

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2014, 08:19:39 AM

Total 18 - (to be painted 15, to be withdrawn 3)

4297 now at Walsall with 4229 finished back at WB

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4329; 4331; (4)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4246(WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (WA)
WB 4265(Trailways); 4297 (WA)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Dutsey on October 28, 2014, 09:20:42 AM

4241 seen at Chelmsley Wood yesterday on the 94.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on October 28, 2014, 12:07:32 PM

https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/7W32K3
All Coventry ones going today I was unlucky as the next 16 was 4398 the only other dd left and it nearly caught it up.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2014, 05:48:50 PM

4306 is back out freshly repainted on the 40/41 today

EDIT: Cheers John :) I saw your photo on flickr of it on the 7A

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 28, 2014, 07:04:52 PM

Quote from: Nathan on October 28, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
4306 is basck out freshly repainted on the 40/41 today

It was out yesterday

Quote from: Dutsey on October 28, 2014, 09:20:42 AM
4241 seen at Chelmsley Wood yesterday on the 94.

It's on the 65 today

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2014, 07:29:35 PM

Quote from: John on October 28, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 28, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
4306 is basck out freshly repainted on the 40/41 today

It was out yesterday

Quote from: Dutsey on October 28, 2014, 09:20:42 AM
4241 seen at Chelmsley Wood yesterday on the 94.

It's on the 65 today

I suspect that may be the next one off the list as I think Walsall may have finished 4246 today. 4241 is out until 23:30 so the swop doesn't look like happening today

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: The Real 4778 on October 28, 2014, 08:11:14 PM

One of Walsall's stragglers has been out and about in Sutton today, seen at lunchtime on the Parade on the 77 and on the streets of Streetly around half seven this evening.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2014, 08:32:02 PM

Quote from: Tony on October 28, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
Quote from: John on October 28, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 28, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
4306 is basck out freshly repainted on the 40/41 today

It was out yesterday

Quote from: Dutsey on October 28, 2014, 09:20:42 AM
4241 seen at Chelmsley Wood yesterday on the 94.

It's on the 65 today

I suspect that may be the next one off the list as I think Walsall may have finished 4246 today. 4241 is out until 23:30 so the swop doesn't look like happening today

4246 has now got back to Perry Barr, 4241 is still in service

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 29, 2014, 08:08:09 PM

4241 was still out this morning. Saw it heading back to garage from City around half 12 this afternoon

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 30, 2014, 02:46:49 PM

Total 17 - (to be painted 14, to be withdrawn 3)

4133 which hadn't been out in service for a few days did a morning peak turn today and now appears to have gone in for repaint.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(Trailways); 4297 (WA)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on October 30, 2014, 03:35:59 PM

1608 has been parked with the other withdrawn buses in front of Coventry garage, can't see if either it's vault or disks have been removed but seemed have run it's last on the 5 yesterday. 1548 is also out of service leaving just 4398 and 4404 in TC livery.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on October 30, 2014, 05:38:27 PM

https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y4jW1B

1608 seemingly featured rear fleet numbers from the Metrobus era, there are presumably one or two other buses with old style fleet numbers in service.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: andy on October 31, 2014, 12:06:23 AM

Quote from: John on October 29, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
4241 was still out this morning. Saw it heading back to garage from City around half 12 this afternoon

It was broken down on Chester Rd opposite Jaguar this afternoon at half 1 causing chaos and making me late for work so that may be its last throw of the dice before the paintshop...

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on October 31, 2014, 09:20:20 AM

4362 really needs a paint now, it looks tatty. One bit of the bumper on the front is red whilst the red follows the TWM livery, the seats are getting worn out and the inside condition doesn't seem very good. My guess is that 4389 will be the last to be refurbed out of YWs TWM livery buses, the condition is almost excellent.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on October 31, 2014, 01:57:42 PM

Total 16 - (to be painted 14, to be withdrawn 2)

1608 now confirmed as finished.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
PB - 4241; (1)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(Trailways); 4297 (WA)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: trident4370 on October 31, 2014, 02:25:07 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 31, 2014, 09:20:20 AM
My guess is that 4389 will be the last to be refurbed out of YWs TWM livery buses, the condition is almost excellent.

4379 now has an ad for a movie so depending on how long that will be up, it could be the last one although I said that about 4370 and look what happened!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on October 31, 2014, 07:28:52 PM

4241 still around on the 65s today

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on October 31, 2014, 09:11:27 PM

As mentioned in NX Coventry Unusual workings 1548 appeared on the 21 today!!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 01, 2014, 09:00:16 AM

Quote from: trident4370 on October 31, 2014, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 31, 2014, 09:20:20 AM
My guess is that 4389 will be the last to be refurbed out of YWs TWM livery buses, the condition is almost excellent.
4379 now has an ad for a movie so depending on how long that will be up, it could be the last one although I said that about 4370 and look what happened!

Here is 4379's offside advert
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4379.html

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

Total 15 - (to be painted 13, to be withdrawn 2)

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4592; 4596 (2)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(Trailways); 4297 (WA)
WN 4588(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on November 01, 2014, 04:37:07 PM

Are there any plans to swap 1677 (WN) or 1684 & 1686 (Reserve WN) with 1668 @ PN or any others which haven't been re-trimmed? I.e. 1607, 1695 or 1698 at WB

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on November 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM

Quote from: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Those that went un-retrimmed last time round with connector bars & new deliveries that arrived during 2007 could really do with being top priority next i.e. 4738 onwards

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2014, 01:20:02 PM

Total 14 - (to be painted 12, to be withdrawn 2)

Wolverhampton 4592 now at Walsall, 4588 back at Wolverhampton finished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 05, 2014, 05:01:30 PM

4588 is in service on the 126 this afternoon

Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2014, 01:20:02 PM
Total 14 - (to be painted 12, to be withdrawn 2)

Wolverhampton 4592 now at Walsall, 4588 back at Wolverhampton finished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4398; 4404; (2)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4409(WA); 4416(WA); 4419(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on November 05, 2014, 07:28:07 PM

Quote from: Winston on November 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Those that went un-retrimmed last time round with connector bars & new deliveries that arrived during 2007 could really do with being top priority next i.e. 4738 onwards

I agree fully with that - the "un-retrimmed" Geminis and Tridents certainly need attention. Externally and internally, some of them are looking very scruffy.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2014, 07:34:42 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on November 05, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Those that went un-retrimmed last time round with connector bars & new deliveries that arrived during 2007 could really do with being top priority next i.e. 4738 onwards

I agree fully with that - the "un-retrimmed" Geminis and Tridents certainly need attention. Externally and internally, some of them are looking very scruffy.

That is why 4519 is now at Walsall being done!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on November 05, 2014, 09:00:33 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2014, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 05, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Those that went un-retrimmed last time round with connector bars & new deliveries that arrived during 2007 could really do with being top priority next i.e. 4738 onwards

I agree fully with that - the "un-retrimmed" Geminis and Tridents certainly need attention. Externally and internally, some of them are looking very scruffy.

That is why 4519 is now at Walsall being done!

I can understand vehicles with a longer life expectancy like Geminis and mid life Enviro or others being done but given there will be 250 new buses next year, that should see off some tridents and certainly the following year's deliveries - perhaps the worst Tridents and ALX B7TLs will be first to go? I'm always amazed the perseverance with 4135!!!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on November 05, 2014, 09:26:45 PM

Quote from: don on November 05, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2014, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 05, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 01, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2014, 03:27:59 PM

4241 has now arrived at Walsall

Hopefully we will get some of the early NX repainted done after 4241 comes back

Those that went un-retrimmed last time round with connector bars & new deliveries that arrived during 2007 could really do with being top priority next i.e. 4738 onwards

I agree fully with that - the "un-retrimmed" Geminis and Tridents certainly need attention. Externally and internally, some of them are looking very scruffy.

That is why 4519 is now at Walsall being done!
I can understand vehicles with a longer life expectancy like Geminis and mid life Enviro or others being done but given there will be 250 new buses next year, that should see off some tridents and certainly the following year's deliveries - perhaps the worst Tridents and ALX B7TLs will be first to go? I'm always amazed the perseverance with 4135!!!

Should any Tridents or B7TL's be withdrawn in subsequent years, they are young enough to be sold on to smaller operators for further service on schools etc rather than being scrapped, and will probably be in demand as operators wouldn't have to go to the cost of converting them to single door format as per acquired ex London examples. Any that are refurbished it would add to their book value & make them more attractive on the used market for onward sale/command a higher asking price.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on November 06, 2014, 12:40:41 PM

Aww dang. 4627 gone in :(

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2014, 01:01:57 PM

Total 13 - (to be painted 11, to be withdrawn 2)

4416 & 4419 now both back at Coventry
4398 now at Walsall for repaint/retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4362; 4379; 4389; (3) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4519 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (WA)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4370 (WB); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 06, 2014, 05:14:38 PM

Why has 4588 retained its TWM seat moquette after repaint/refurb?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stevo on November 07, 2014, 01:38:43 PM

I spent 3 hours riding around Wolverhampton, Dudley and West Brom yesterday and didn't see a single vehicle in TWM livery - the end is nigh!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 08, 2014, 11:07:27 AM

Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Down to the last dozen now
4362 is now at Walsall with 4370 back at Yardley Wood repainted

4519 has now arrived at AG fully repainted as well

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (Trailways)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on November 08, 2014, 03:26:56 PM

Finally 4362 has gone, it looked tatty.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2014, 03:19:53 PM

Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Still 12, but I think all the bodywork repairs have been completed on 4265; 4297; 4592; 4627 & 4723 so WB & WN look like the next two garage to be free of the old livery

Two more buses to add to the repaint list
BC have sent 4187 to Walsall early last week, this has now gone to Trailways so may get a full paint
AG have sent 2112 over to Walsall so looks like the second of that batch to get the proper red

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4187 (Trailways); 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (Trailways)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on November 10, 2014, 05:52:28 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 03:19:53 PM

Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Still 12, but I think all the bodywork repairs have been completed on 4265; 4297; 4592; 4627 & 4723 so WB & WN look like the next two garage to be free of the old livery

Two more buses to add to the repaint list
BC have sent 4187 to Walsall early last week, this has now gone to Trailways so may get a full paint
AG have sent 2112 over to Walsall so looks like the second of that batch to get the proper red

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4187 (Trailways); 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (Trailways)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Tony, did 4519 get completed?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on November 10, 2014, 06:06:12 PM

Quote from: don on November 10, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 03:19:53 PM

Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Still 12, but I think all the bodywork repairs have been completed on 4265; 4297; 4592; 4627 & 4723 so WB & WN look like the next two garage to be free of the old livery

Two more buses to add to the repaint list
BC have sent 4187 to Walsall early last week, this has now gone to Trailways so may get a full paint
AG have sent 2112 over to Walsall so looks like the second of that batch to get the proper red

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4187 (Trailways); 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (Trailways)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)
Tony, did 4519 get completed?

I'm sure its been confirmed as back out already, not sure whether it was re-trimmed as well though?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2014, 06:26:13 PM

Quote from: Winston on November 10, 2014, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: don on November 10, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 03:19:53 PM

Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Still 12, but I think all the bodywork repairs have been completed on 4265; 4297; 4592; 4627 & 4723 so WB & WN look like the next two garage to be free of the old livery

Two more buses to add to the repaint list
BC have sent 4187 to Walsall early last week, this has now gone to Trailways so may get a full paint
AG have sent 2112 over to Walsall so looks like the second of that batch to get the proper red

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4187 (Trailways); 4613(Carlyle); 4627 (WA)
PB 4241 (Trailways)
PE 4353(WA)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)
Tony, did 4519 get completed?

I'm sure its been confirmed as back out already, not sure whether it was re-trimmed as well though?

Yes, see about 5 messages up on this page

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on November 10, 2014, 06:31:01 PM

Yes - missed that one! Echoing Winston's question, do we know if it was re trimmed or just a repaint?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 10, 2014, 06:48:36 PM

Always thought PE would be high up the list of garages getting rid of the old livery, but thanks to WB sending 1668 to PE and PE not getting rid at the first opportunity, it now appears PE might be one of the last !!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 07:20:51 PM

So is it a certainty that blue will be eliminated from Birmingham streets by 1/1/15?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2014, 07:28:37 PM

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 07:20:51 PM
So is it a certainty that blue will be eliminated from Birmingham streets by 1/1/15?

The front of 4432 may still have some blue on on that date

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 07:29:19 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 07:20:51 PM
So is it a certainty that blue will be eliminated from Birmingham streets by 1/1/15?

The front of 4432 may still have some blue on on that date

Haha, that bumper just holding on!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 14, 2014, 06:50:15 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 03:19:53 PM

Total 12 - (to be painted 10, to be withdrawn 2)

Still 12, but 4627 is now back at BC and 4353 not only went back to Pensnett this morning it is already out in service on the 120 this afternoon

BC 4187 is actually at Trailways for floor repair, not for refurb/repaint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264; 4273; (2)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4265(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on November 14, 2014, 07:11:53 PM

Just noticed on the list, 2112 (AG) is in for refurb - was it involved in an accident or something? I apologise if I have missed something obvious

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on November 14, 2014, 07:48:53 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on November 14, 2014, 07:11:53 PM
Just noticed on the list, 2112 (AG) is in for refurb - was it involved in an accident or something? I apologise if I have missed something obvious

Just being treated to a proper red front

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on November 14, 2014, 07:55:13 PM

Good idea - Glad to hear ;) Once the TWM livery is eradicated, they could just slowly push the single decks (e.g Omnilinks/Eclipse Urban 2s) through the paintshop - no need for retrimming etc. Just a red repaint.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 14, 2014, 08:04:56 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on November 14, 2014, 07:55:13 PM
Good idea - Glad to hear ;) Once the TWM livery is eradicated, they could just slowly push the single decks (e.g Omnilinks/Eclipse Urban 2s) through the paintshop - no need for retrimming etc. Just a red repaint.

2112 is getting a full repaint, not just red

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on November 14, 2014, 08:09:16 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 14, 2014, 08:04:56 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 14, 2014, 07:55:13 PM
Good idea - Glad to hear ;) Once the TWM livery is eradicated, they could just slowly push the single decks (e.g Omnilinks/Eclipse Urban 2s) through the paintshop - no need for retrimming etc. Just a red repaint.

2112 is getting a full repaint, not just red

Is this to eliminate "old body damage"? - Like what they have done with Bordesleys' Omnilinks?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: don on November 16, 2014, 12:32:48 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 10, 2014, 07:20:51 PM
So is it a certainty that blue will be eliminated from Birmingham streets by 1/1/15?

The front of 4432 may still have some blue on on that date

Repaint ing the front would be a straightforward task and quick win in terms of brand completion.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on November 16, 2014, 02:59:34 PM

I passed 4273 on Walsall Ring Road this afternoon driven by an engineer, possible next one in for repaint?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 16, 2014, 03:08:19 PM

Total 11 - (to be painted 9, to be withdrawn 2)

4273 now at Walsall for repaint with 4265 finished back at West Bromwich

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 2112 (WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (Trailways); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (WA); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Wolves256 on November 17, 2014, 08:33:31 AM

So did anyone confirmed if NXWM will continue to re trim the seats when vehicles are repainted?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on November 17, 2014, 08:46:12 PM

Well 4519 came out with full retrim, and it came out just after 4370 - so I reckon maybe they just missed two out, maybe due to delays with trimming workshop.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 17, 2014, 10:24:04 PM

Quote from: Tony on November 16, 2014, 03:08:19 PM

Total 11 - (to be painted 9, to be withdrawn 2)

No change in the total today as todays arrival is 4518 from AG replacing 2112 now back at AG.
Trailways have finished the repaneling of 4308 and now have 4362. 4308 is another that will return to service without a retrim for the time being.

I think 4297 is due to be finished next, so WB may be the next garage all in red/white

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4307; 4329; 4331; (3)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4518(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4308 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (Trailways); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: PM on November 17, 2014, 10:40:11 PM

Why is it certain re-trims are being left Tony?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 20, 2014, 02:17:01 PM

Total 10 - (to be painted 8, to be withdrawn 2)

4308 now finished, with 4307 replacing it in paint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; 4389; (2) (4379 is currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4518(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (Trailways); 4723(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 21, 2014, 08:16:58 AM

Total 9 - (to be painted 7, to be withdrawn 2)

Single figures!
4723 now back at YW in Red/White, 4389 now at Walsall for repaint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
CV 1548 (1)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
AG 4518(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on November 21, 2014, 11:13:00 AM

1548 out on 2/3 today still looking for love!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/vL77u0

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on November 21, 2014, 04:26:55 PM

Looks like I was wrong then! It was one of the last though.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2014, 09:11:48 AM

Total 8 - (7 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

1548 now withdrawn at Coventry

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4518(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on November 29, 2014, 12:06:51 PM

Total 8 - (7 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

No change to the total as the bus finished yesterday was 4518 now back at AG with 4517 now at Walsall for repaint/retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA); 4731(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

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Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:02:19 PM

Total 8 - (7 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4731 back at YW finished in Red/White. 4379 still at YW though.

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (WA); 4332 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2014, 03:49:45 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:02:19 PM
Total 8 - (7 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4332 now finished in Red/White
Not sure if 4329 has come off for repaint yet, hasn't been used for two days, but is not being worked on either!

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
WN - 4596 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4592(WA); 4594(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2014, 12:23:24 PM

Total 7 - (6 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Wolverhampton garage is now a TWM livery free zone
4592 is back at Wolverhampton painted and 4596 is at Walsall

In reality only 5 buses are in service as neither 4329 or 4379 have been is service for the last 3 days, but neither has actually gone to the paintshop yet.

If anyone is looking for 4332 first day in service painted it is on the 77

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
CV 4398 (WA); 4409(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 04, 2014, 04:41:38 PM

Cheers for posting Tony :) I'm glad i got a ride on 4596 a few days before leaving for Repaint then

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: lynx1103 on December 04, 2014, 05:51:50 PM

Seen 4308/4332 both today

4332 still has old tatty blue seating
4308 has old style but newly fitted blue seating

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on December 05, 2014, 12:39:27 PM

https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/H62Lyn
4404 still going on 12 this morning

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 06, 2014, 06:59:57 PM

Total 7 - (6 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Same total, but 4409 is now back at Coventry, so it looks like 4404 has to wait until 4398 is finished!
The replacement for refurbishment at Walsall is the very tatty BC 4472

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; 4331; (2)
WB - 4264 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (Trailways)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
CV 4398 (WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 09, 2014, 07:46:28 AM

Total 6 - (5 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Might actually be 5
4331 is now in the paintshop at Walsall
4404 could possibly be also there, I am not at work today so cannot check until tomorrow.

with 4379 being fitted with a new engine at YW and 4432 covered in Morrisons advert, there are only actually 3 in service today
4329 on the 77
4264 on the 127
1668 on the 276

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
WB - 4264 (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (Trailways)
WA 4133 (WB); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (WA)
WB 4273(WA); 4297 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
CV 4398 (WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Beano2211 on December 10, 2014, 12:45:00 AM

4404 broke down last night and was towed in, not out today and hasn't moved.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: uniquicity on December 11, 2014, 10:37:07 AM

Saw a repanelled ALX400 on WB ring way just, would this have been 4133 heading to WA?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 11, 2014, 01:55:28 PM

Total 5 - (4 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

For the first time ever there are no double decks in service in full TWM livery today, 1668 being the sole representative!
4264 is now at Walsall for repaint/retrim with 4297 back at WB finished
4379 is still having a replacement engine fitted
4404 was due to move to Walsall earlier in the week, but broke down the night before so still hasn't left, but is also not being used
4329 hasn't been out of the garage today either
4432 is in service, but with the almost allover Morrisons advert.

Also 4398 is now finished and back at Coventry
4133 is repanelled and back at Walsall for painting
4241 & 4362 have been finished at Trailways and both are at Walsall for painting
4331 has gone to Trailways
4472 has gone to West Bromwich

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)
CV - 4404; (1)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4517(WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 4241 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 12, 2014, 09:02:00 AM

Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

I have taken 4404 off the list as although it might not have got to Walsall yet, it shouldn't run in Travel Coventry colours again.

4517 is now back at AG finished and out on the 11C today. 4675 & 4676 are both at Walsall for repaint/retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404
PB 4241 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on December 12, 2014, 04:24:58 PM

Barely any left now! Had 4517 on the 11C this morning - looked great externally and internally. Some people were commenting actually how it had the new bus smell -credit to WA there.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 12, 2014, 08:35:00 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2014, 09:02:00 AM
Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4241 now back at Perry Barr finished, not sure if anything has gone to Walsall in exchange yet

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 16, 2014, 09:37:25 AM

Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Perry Barr have sent 1844 to Walsall for repaint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (CV)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tara4352 on December 16, 2014, 12:32:30 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 09:37:25 AM

Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Perry Barr have sent 1844 to Walsall for repaint

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (CV)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Is 4404 still still cv

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 16, 2014, 03:42:52 PM

Total 5 - (4 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Coventry have put 4404 back in service this afternoon, after telling me it was going to Walsall when repaired

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; (1) + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
CV - 4404
WA - 4329; (1)
YW - 4379; (1) (currently carrying an offside advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4362 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 17, 2014, 09:48:43 AM

Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4379 now at Walsall for repaint, with 4362 back at YW and already in service on a morning peak 50

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
CV - 4404
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4133 (WA); 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4379 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 17, 2014, 06:21:43 PM

Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4133 has now been finished, so I suspect 4329 will be taken off the road this week, so is it starting to look like Pensnett will be the last garage with a bus in full old livery! Bit of a surprise considering it was one of the first garage not to have a TWM liveried bus there!

4432 should go in for paint early January.

All four remaining buses are in service as at 18:20 today
1668 on the 53
4329 on the 77
4404 on the 6
4432 on the 97

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
CV - 4404
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4379 (WA); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 17, 2014, 06:24:01 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 17, 2014, 06:21:43 PM
Total 4 - (3 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4133 has now been finished, so I suspect 4329 will be taken off the road this week, so is it starting to look like Pensnett will be the last garage with a bus in full old livery! Bit of a surprise considering it was one of the first garage not to have a TWM liveried bus there!

4432 should go in for paint early January.

All four remaining buses are in service as at 18:20 today
1668 on the 53
4329 on the 77
4404 on the 6
4432 on the 97

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
CV - 4404
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4379 (WA); 4389(WA)

When is 1668s tax/mot due, surely that will see it off!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: karl724223 on December 17, 2014, 07:09:07 PM

1668 very nice bus to drive
Tax might be end of the month
All depends on what it looks like underneath

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 18, 2014, 06:15:06 PM

Total 3 - (2 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

Travel Coventry livery has definitely finished now, 4404 has made its way to Walsall
(It was on the 12 this morning if anyone claims to have seen it in service today)

4329 is still holding on in service though out on the 7A at the moment

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WA); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 1918 (WA) 4379 (WA); 4389(WA)

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Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on December 18, 2014, 10:13:55 PM

So once all the repaints are completed, what is the next priority for repaint?

Tidying up earlier tatty repaints?

Will this also involve moving the fleetname to over the driver's window / the door, as per recent deliveries?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on December 18, 2014, 10:27:59 PM

Quote from: Westy on December 18, 2014, 10:13:55 PM
So once all the repaints are completed, what is the next priority for repaint?

Tidying up earlier tatty repaints?

Will this also involve moving the fleetname to over the driver's window / the door, as per recent deliveries?

You can see the type of vehicles that are next to tidy up by what is already on the list in paint, Acocks Green's Geminis seem to be priority with 3 done and two more at Walsall in the last month, and 4472 which is a similar age also going in.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 19, 2014, 11:43:40 AM

Total 3 - (2 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

1918 is now back at Yardley Wood painted after its unfortunate mishap
4450 is another Coventry bus in for repaint & retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on December 19, 2014, 02:49:36 PM

And when your total hits 0 Tony how does the new standard livery fit into the overall repaint strategy? Surely if they do more repaints or tidy ups in the current livery NXWM will be running with new and old liveries for years to come!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: paulb1973 on December 19, 2014, 02:56:04 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 19, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
Total 3 - (2 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

1918 is now back at Yardley Wood painted after its unfortunate mishap
4450 is another Coventry bus in for repaint & retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

4450 might qualify as the first full repaint from NXC livery into NXC livery again (now that all of CV's buses are out of the old livery) 4404 being refurbed aside.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on December 19, 2014, 05:25:39 PM

Has any announcement been made that existing vehicles will be repainted into the new liveries in due course?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 19, 2014, 06:28:46 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on December 19, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 19, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
Total 3 - (2 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

1918 is now back at Yardley Wood painted after its unfortunate mishap
4450 is another Coventry bus in for repaint & retrim

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4594(WA); 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

4450 might qualify as the first full repaint from NXC livery into NXC livery again (now that all of CV's buses are out of the old livery) 4404 being refurbed aside.

I cannot think of another that has had a second repaint before, so I think you are correct

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on December 19, 2014, 07:17:22 PM

Quote from: JoNi on December 19, 2014, 05:25:39 PM
Has any announcement been made that existing vehicles will be repainted into the new liveries in due course?

Given the number of unanswered questions on the site on this matter it seems increasingly likely that, as is often the case, for some reason NXWM are playing their cards close to their chest.
Alternatively perhaps they do not have a strategy yet, which seems very unlikely.
Have you any info Tony. Continuing to repaint into what will soon be the old livery seems an expensive and pointless course of action.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on December 19, 2014, 07:45:52 PM

Point taken. Thanks anyway Tony. No doubt all will become clear with the passage of time.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 22, 2014, 10:46:53 AM

Total 3 - (2 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4594 now back at Wolverhampton finished

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 + 4177 in experimental livery (both carrying Morrisons adverts, 4177 with a red front, 4432 old livery front)
WA - 4329

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (Trailways); 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Other buses currently away from NX premises
1771, 4318
758, 4044. 4560
5505
4257
6027
4087

Buses currently not at their home garage
4309; 4527 (at BC)
4096 (at AG)
4606 (at WB)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2014, 11:42:27 AM

1668- on 297 into merry hill at 09:50

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 07:43:39 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 10:46:53 AM

Other buses currently away from NX premises
1771, 4318
758, 4044. 4560
5505
4257
6027
4087

Buses currently not at their home garage
4309; 4527 (at BC)
4096 (at AG)
4606 (at WB)

Are those in the "other buses category" away for repairs?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:49:24 PM

Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 07:43:39 PM

Are those in the "other buses category" away for repairs?

Yes, as are those 'not at their home garage'

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 11:00:45 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:49:24 PM

Yes, as are those 'not at their home garage'

Thanks :)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Mike K on December 23, 2014, 09:14:52 AM

Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 07:43:39 PM

Are those in the "other buses category" away for repairs?

Yes, as are those 'not at their home garage'

Anyone know what's happened to 5505? I hadn't realised this was out of service.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:21:34 AM

Quote from: Mike K on December 23, 2014, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 07:43:39 PM

Are those in the "other buses category" away for repairs?

Yes, as are those 'not at their home garage'

Anyone know what's happened to 5505? I hadn't realised this was out of service.

Buses regularly visit other places for minor repairs, sometimes just for a day Volvos go off the Hartshornes etc. 5505 is back at BC today, although not in service

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:28:50 AM

Total 2 - (1 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4329 is now at Trailways for refurb. 1668 is not on the road either today although I am not sure if it has completely finished yet. The only sign of TWM livery today is front of 4432 on the 14 service.

4606 (The tree jumped out in front of me bus) has now moved to Carlyle (6 NX buses currently there!)

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Other buses currently away from NX premises
758, 1771, 4044. 4560; 4606
4257
6027
4087

Buses currently not at their home garage
4309; 4527 (at BC)
4096 (at AG)
4606 (at WB)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: mranon on December 23, 2014, 09:43:57 AM

was there some kind of plan tony to rush through eradicating the twm livery by end of 2014? the new livery looks better, but wonder how single deckers would have it applied

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Mike K on December 23, 2014, 09:49:11 AM

Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: Mike K on December 23, 2014, 09:14:52 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 22, 2014, 07:43:39 PM

Are those in the "other buses category" away for repairs?

Yes, as are those 'not at their home garage'

Anyone know what's happened to 5505? I hadn't realised this was out of service.

Buses regularly visit other places for minor repairs, sometimes just for a day Volvos go off the Hartshornes etc. 5505 is back at BC today, although not in service

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying Tony.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: 2900 on December 23, 2014, 02:24:32 PM

bumper Christmas for Carlyle, NX must be keeping them going single handily

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 23, 2014, 02:29:29 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:28:50 AM
Total 2 - (1 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4329 is now at Trailways for refurb. 1668 is not on the road either today although I am not sure if it has completely finished yet. The only sign of TWM livery today is front of 4432 on the 14 service.

4606 (The tree jumped out in front of me bus) has now moved to Carlyle (6 NX buses currently there!)

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Other buses currently away from NX premises
758, 1771, 4044. 4560; 4606
4257
6027
4087

Buses currently not at their home garage
4309; 4527 (at BC)
4096 (at AG)
4606 (at WB)

That's a shame!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on December 23, 2014, 03:38:06 PM

Walsall have finished 4676 this afternoon

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Stevo on December 23, 2014, 09:21:25 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:28:50 AM
Total 2 - (1 to be painted, 1 to be withdrawn)

4329 is now at Trailways for refurb. 1668 is not on the road either today although I am not sure if it has completely finished yet. The only sign of TWM livery today is front of 4432 on the 14 service.

4606 (The tree jumped out in front of me bus) has now moved to Carlyle (6 NX buses currently there!)

Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2014, 02:54:40 PM

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicle that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4675(WA); 4676 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Other buses currently away from NX premises
758, 1771, 4044. 4560; 4606
4257
6027
4087

Buses currently not at their home garage
4309; 4527 (at BC)
4096 (at AG)
4606 (at WB)

I saw 4432 in Harborne just before lunch today - perhaps it was reallocated from the 14. Last Red White and Blue, just before Christmas!

Typo on my behalf - it was on the 24 all day - Tony

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:35:03 AM

Total 1 -

1668 now confirmed as withdrawn leaving just the two Morrisons advert buses to be painted when the contract runs out early next year

4676 now finished and back at AG; 4520 now at Walsall for repaint/retrim

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4520(WA); 4675 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)
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Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: 2900 on December 24, 2014, 11:45:56 AM

Basically RIP TWM liverys, for me toothpaste won hands down , dudley road gemnis probably the best looking buses at the time. I can recall 4700 parked at Oldbury bus interchange for several days for type training, I remember Mr and Mrs joe public saying that is smart very posh etc etc never heard negative remark. Real shame what's become of them. I do hope somebody will preserve one in the future and restore the original livery.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 24, 2014, 02:07:48 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:35:03 AM
Total 1 -

1668 now confirmed as withdrawn leaving just the two Morrisons advert buses to be painted when the contract runs out early next year

4676 now finished and back at AG; 4520 now at Walsall for repaint/retrim

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4520(WA); 4675 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

[/quote]

What a lovely xmas present!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Ronnoc on December 26, 2014, 04:53:29 PM

4718 back at Yardley Wood on the 35.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: 598 on December 26, 2014, 05:38:22 PM

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 24, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:35:03 AM
Total 1 -

1668 now confirmed as withdrawn leaving just the two Morrisons advert buses to be painted when the contract runs out early next year

4676 now finished and back at AG; 4520 now at Walsall for repaint/retrim

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4520(WA); 4675 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4273 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

What a lovely xmas present!
[/quote]

How rude! It really is the end of an era. Sad

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: The Real 4778 on December 26, 2014, 05:44:23 PM

Quote from: 2900 on December 24, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
Basically RIP TWM liverys, for me toothpaste won hands down , dudley road gemnis probably the best looking buses at the time. I can recall 4700 parked at Oldbury bus interchange for several days for type training, I remember Mr and Mrs joe public saying that is smart very posh etc etc never heard negative remark. Real shame what's become of them. I do hope somebody will preserve one in the future and restore the original livery.

Hear! Hear! Toothpaste was a great evolution of Low-Floor livery, which was presumably designed by an engineer obsessed with straight lines and bold angles, and to my eyes always looked rubbish on deckers and unsympathetic to their size (not nearly as bad as the current non-livery of course).

When 4697/8 appeared I had seriously high hopes for the fleet. Now it's a rag-bag of dirty white, an entire palette of reddy-pinks, and completely arbitrary connecting bars, or their stumps.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liverpool Street on December 26, 2014, 11:13:05 PM

Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 26, 2014, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: 2900 on December 24, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
Basically RIP TWM liverys, for me toothpaste won hands down , dudley road gemnis probably the best looking buses at the time. I can recall 4700 parked at Oldbury bus interchange for several days for type training, I remember Mr and Mrs joe public saying that is smart very posh etc etc never heard negative remark. Real shame what's become of them. I do hope somebody will preserve one in the future and restore the original livery.

Hear! Hear! Toothpaste was a great evolution of Low-Floor livery, which was presumably designed by an engineer obsessed with straight lines and bold angles, and to my eyes always looked rubbish on deckers and unsympathetic to their size (not nearly as bad as the current non-livery of course).

When 4697/8 appeared I had seriously high hopes for the fleet. Now it's a rag-bag of dirty white, an entire palette of reddy-pinks, and completely arbitrary connecting bars, or their stumps.

Hmm... Thinking about it there might be less white on the current NXWM livery then the very first incarnations of the TWM low floor livery... Gawd there was some madness going on with those! Forget painting the front bumpers lads and just paint the lift clusters blue...

Although I've always been a fan of it on a Trident, especially the front. The livery was obviously designed with that body in mind, especially its 'pouting lip' below the lower front windscreen and bulbous front bumper. I actually do like the ALX400 body though, I know it wasn't welcomed by most but I liked them. And I think the 43xx's Jubilee Line Tridents new at BC (esp. 4355) were some of the best buses TWM had, quick comfy smart nice brakes easy to drive and nice to look at. (When new haha) And a welcome change from the N113's and Metrobuses at the time. The only thing us drivers had an issue with was the mirrors.. When they were new they had huge almost lorry like plastic glass mirrors which would cause a massive blind spot on your offside and an obstacle on your nearside. Although my all time favourite batch has to be Pershore Roads batch of 46's. So shiny and posh and had CCTV/advert screens with Sudoku and allsorts. Fond memories.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on December 26, 2014, 11:34:00 PM

Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on December 26, 2014, 04:53:29 PM
4718 back at Yardley Wood on the 35.

Its been back at YW in current NX livery for a while

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on January 06, 2015, 09:47:11 AM

Total 1 -

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

1846 now at Walsall, joining 1844
4273 now finished back at WB

Pensnett have sent 4346 in sometime in the last few days

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4520(WA); 4675 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA); 1846 (WA)
PE 4346 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery / Repaints & Retrims
Post by: Tony on January 07, 2015, 01:09:35 PM

Total 1 -

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432 (front only rest of the bus is a Morrisons advert + 4177 in experimental livery (also a Morrisons advert)

WB 4511 is the latest arrival at Walsall for repaint/retrim

Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2015, 09:47:11 AM

Vehicles currently being repainted
AG 4520(WA); 4675 (WA)
BC 4472 (WB); 4613(Carlyle);
CV 4404 (WA); 4450 (WA)
PB 1844 (WA); 1846 (WA)
PE 4346 (WA)
WA 4307 (WA); 4329 (Trailways) 4331 (Trailways)
WB 4264(WA); 4511 (WA)
WN 4596(WA)
YW 4379 (Trailways); 4389(WA)

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: 2900 on January 07, 2015, 01:39:36 PM

That's good to see west brom starting to re furbish the badly done early repaints, the seats on most of these are in a shocking state.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Kevin_Brum12 on January 07, 2015, 10:45:53 PM

Quote from: 2900 on January 07, 2015, 01:39:36 PM
That's good to see west brom starting to re furbish the badly done early repaints, the seats on most of these are in a shocking state.

Yes very welcome - Perry Barr has some similar vehicles and the quality of these against the refurbishments and re-liveries done over the last 18 months is telling.

Isn't it ironic though that we are now down to the last bus in Travel West Midlands colours - just as NXWM are planning to launch a new livery. Maybe they should check at Walsall if they've got some WMPTE blue and cream or WMT sliver and blue left in stock and give the bus one of those to get rid of the paint!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Westy on January 08, 2015, 05:24:21 PM

Are they just going to repaint younger vehicles into this new livery, as I cant see the point in repainting Spectras & Presidents etc if they're gonna be withdrawn during the repainting process.

A fair few vehicles got withdrawn in Nx livery so if the likely timescales of certain types of vehicles to be withdrawn is known then base the repainting on that.

Personally it should be Enviros, B7's & Scanias in the new livery first, leaving Tridents till last!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: the trainbasher on January 08, 2015, 05:25:00 PM

I think it's only new buses that are going into the two tone livery

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on January 08, 2015, 05:50:33 PM

What is NX's repaint cycle, after all I would expect the Platinum buses to last four years before being replaced by further new buses to keep the premium nature of these routes.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stevo on January 08, 2015, 06:11:52 PM

I wish they'd say if the new livery will be adopted across the fleet for repaints. I can't see there's any need for commercial secrecy in this.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on January 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM

Surely it must be adopted across the fleet save perhaps vehicles likely to be withdrawn in, say, the next 2 years. If not NX will be running with dual standard liveries for years to come not to mention the Platinum livery and the Coventry variant. Have to say I can't understand why NX seem to regard this matter as commercially sensitive now that the new livery has been widely reported in the media.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on January 08, 2015, 07:32:41 PM

Quote from: RW on January 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Surely it must be adopted across the fleet save perhaps vehicles likely to be withdrawn in, say, the next 2 years. If not NX will be running with dual standard liveries for years to come not to mention the Platinum livery and the Coventry variant. Have to say I can't understand why NX seem to regard this matter as commercially sensitive now that the new livery has been widely reported in the media.

So operators like Nottingham, Trent, Go North East get praise on here for being very good operators (no argument from me there) but have multiple liveries in much smaller fleets than NXWM, yet the thought of NXWM having multiple liveries horrifies people

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: RW on January 08, 2015, 08:42:35 PM

Quote from: Tony on January 08, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: RW on January 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Surely it must be adopted across the fleet save perhaps vehicles likely to be withdrawn in, say, the next 2 years. If not NX will be running with dual standard liveries for years to come not to mention the Platinum livery and the Coventry variant. Have to say I can't understand why NX seem to regard this matter as commercially sensitive now that the new livery has been widely reported in the media.

So operators like Nottingham, Trent, Go North East get praise on here for being very good operators (no argument from me there) but have multiple liveries in much smaller fleets than NXWM, yet the thought of NXWM having multiple liveries horrifies people

It doesn't horrify me Tony, but why? If you have a new livery why wouldn't you want your vehicles in it?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 09:12:08 PM

Well Trent's fleet is all in different liveries intentionally for their routes - certainly noticed that (along with NCT) when I've been to Nottingham numerous times last year. At least they look similar in design and as most are route branded it makes sense. Would be great to know why they don't do the repaints from now in the new livery considering it is going to become the standard one - they can start getting going now considering it's going to be the new standard livery. Why just save it for the new buses? I for one would appreciate YW and AG Scanias being repainted into it - will make a positive impression on the passengers - combined with refurbished seats. I mean they could get going by redoing PB's two Scanias in at the moment - paint a third into it and the 952 would already benefit from refurbished buses in the correct standard livery.

However enough moaning - I must say well done to NX for their heavy investment in the fleet - having just read the news article they've released that is an impressive amount of new buses in 2015. Shows they are really looking to improve the quality of their services and improving journeys.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: arrifirststage on January 08, 2015, 09:40:23 PM

Quote from: Tony on January 08, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: RW on January 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Surely it must be adopted across the fleet save perhaps vehicles likely to be withdrawn in, say, the next 2 years. If not NX will be running with dual standard liveries for years to come not to mention the Platinum livery and the Coventry variant. Have to say I can't understand why NX seem to regard this matter as commercially sensitive now that the new livery has been widely reported in the media.

So operators like Nottingham, Trent, Go North East get praise on here for being very good operators (no argument from me there) but have multiple liveries in much smaller fleets than NXWM, yet the thought of NXWM having multiple liveries horrifies people

If (God forbid) NXWM have multiple liveries ,but keep each livery on a given route,then it would not be too bad......problem is multi liveries on each route.
I cannot give NXWM much credit for keeping branded buses on correct routes as it is,never mind extending the concept.
I will admit that ANY branding is a pet hate of mine,and any visit to Derby merely reinforces that opinion.The overall appearance of Derby would suggest one major operator (Arriva) and hosts of smaller unconnected operators who could just as easily be completely independent of each other.
If you want a network marketed to the public,then use one fleet name and livery........bet most people in Derby don't have a clue who Black Cat are,and probably don't care either.
I can only repeat that for 20 years my brother was MD of a medium sized Company,NBC,then Badgerline then Firstgroup and never needed to use this new fashioned gimmick.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:45 PM

Route branding is awful when it ends up on the wrong route - just adds confusion to joe public. Personally it is better what NX are doing with introducing Platinum buses on certain routes, which they are unlikely to stray far from. Diamond have done it with Signature in Solihull and has worked very well.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 08, 2015, 10:16:52 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Route branding is awful when it ends up on the wrong route - just adds confusion to joe public. Personally it is better what NX are doing with introducing Platinum buses on certain routes, which they are unlikely to stray far from. Diamond have done it with Signature in Solihull and has worked very well.

I've been told Platinum vehicles will be banned from straying 'off route'.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on January 08, 2015, 10:25:49 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Route branding is awful when it ends up on the wrong route - just adds confusion to joe public. Personally it is better what NX are doing with introducing Platinum buses on certain routes, which they are unlikely to stray far from. Diamond have done it with Signature in Solihull and has worked very well.

So that is why I saw a Signature Merc on the 16 this week.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Mike K on January 08, 2015, 10:30:13 PM

Quote from: Matt on January 08, 2015, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 08, 2015, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Route branding is awful when it ends up on the wrong route - just adds confusion to joe public. Personally it is better what NX are doing with introducing Platinum buses on certain routes, which they are unlikely to stray far from. Diamond have done it with Signature in Solihull and has worked very well.

I've been told Platinum vehicles will be banned from straying 'off route'.

Wasn't the same said about Central's hybrids.

Apart from a couple of crazy weeks many months ago, Central's hybrids do rarely stray. Now WN's are a different matter...

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on January 08, 2015, 10:37:55 PM

Quote from: Mike K on January 08, 2015, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 08, 2015, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 08, 2015, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Route branding is awful when it ends up on the wrong route - just adds confusion to joe public. Personally it is better what NX are doing with introducing Platinum buses on certain routes, which they are unlikely to stray far from. Diamond have done it with Signature in Solihull and has worked very well.

I've been told Platinum vehicles will be banned from straying 'off route'.

Wasn't the same said about Central's hybrids.

Apart from a couple of crazy weeks many months ago, Central's hybrids do rarely stray. Now WN's are a different matter...

The only thing limiting BCs Hybrids is driver knowledge

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: mranon on January 08, 2015, 11:07:18 PM

are drivers not supposed to be type trained and knowledgable about each vehicle type at their garage?

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: tc on January 08, 2015, 11:18:38 PM

Quote from: arrifirststage on January 08, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 08, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: RW on January 08, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Surely it must be adopted across the fleet save perhaps vehicles likely to be withdrawn in, say, the next 2 years. If not NX will be running with dual standard liveries for years to come not to mention the Platinum livery and the Coventry variant. Have to say I can't understand why NX seem to regard this matter as commercially sensitive now that the new livery has been widely reported in the media.

So operators like Nottingham, Trent, Go North East get praise on here for being very good operators (no argument from me there) but have multiple liveries in much smaller fleets than NXWM, yet the thought of NXWM having multiple liveries horrifies people
If (God forbid) NXWM have multiple liveries ,but keep each livery on a given route,then it would not be too bad......problem is multi liveries on each route.
I cannot give NXWM much credit for keeping branded buses on correct routes as it is,never mind extending the concept.
I will admit that ANY branding is a pet hate of mine,and any visit to Derby merely reinforces that opinion.The overall appearance of Derby would suggest one major operator (Arriva) and hosts of smaller unconnected operators who could just as easily be completely independent of each other.
If you want a network marketed to the public,then use one fleet name and livery........bet most people in Derby don't have a clue who Black Cat are,and probably don't care either.
I can only repeat that for 20 years my brother was MD of a medium sized Company,NBC,then Badgerline then Firstgroup and never needed to use this new fashioned gimmick.

Route branding has been around for a long time!

https://flic.kr/p/aJX9Fv

https://flic.kr/p/byW9v6

Excellent Badgerline route branding ;)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mkIaxTSsFi0/U9YPYwC7aVI/AAAAAAAANFM/pePZa7tuHts/s1600/G904-GWS.Badgerline.jpg

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: winston on January 09, 2015, 12:13:14 AM

Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Well Trent's fleet is all in different liveries intentionally for their routes - certainly noticed that (along with NCT) when I've been to Nottingham numerous times last year. At least they look similar in design and as most are route branded it makes sense. Would be great to know why they don't do the repaints from now in the new livery considering it is going to become the standard one - they can start getting going now considering it's going to be the new standard livery. Why just save it for the new buses? I for one would appreciate YW and AG Scanias being repainted into it - will make a positive impression on the passengers - combined with refurbished seats. I mean they could get going by redoing PB's two Scanias in at the moment - paint a third into it and the 952 would already benefit from refurbished buses in the correct standard livery.

However enough moaning - I must say well done to NX for their heavy investment in the fleet - having just read the news article they've released that is an impressive amount of new buses in 2015. Shows they are really looking to improve the quality of their services and improving journeys.

It's by far the most sensible solution to phase the new livery in on new buses only from 2015 onwards, it took circa 7 years to get the whole fleet in the same livery (even then there are still numerous variations of standard livery). The way new buses are allocated to specific routes/corridors these days, NX should introduce the new image route by route or on a specific corridor, passengers will then easily identify the new investment as routes are upgraded. Much like how TWM low floor livery was introduced, with the remainder of the step entrance fleet retaining red band livery, it got really confusing when NX started painting single decker step entrance B10B's & Lynx in what was always the low floor livery. I've seen complete new liveries introduced from scratch across the entire fleet from back when WMT ditched blue & cream in favour silver/grey blue, and it didn't half look untidy when a garage had a handful of buses painted in the livery that were dotted around random routes. Maybe in the future, some of the existing fleet could start to receive the new colours following refurbishment, but I'd only like to only see it introduced on a specific batch of buses at anyone time, and therefore again allowing a group of routes or a corridor to be upgraded in the new colours one area at a time.

Looks as though the reserve fleet are going to have a buses summer dealing with 170+ withdrawals.....

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stevo on January 09, 2015, 11:55:29 AM

The trouble with a two-tier system - new buses in new livery, older ones in old livery - is that the public sees the older livery as second rate and thinks they're getting poorer vehicles. This is what First found so they extended Barbie livery across the fleet. The multiple liveries of fleets like Trent and Nottingham are something different. On a slightly different matter, you can't easily tell in Nottingham whether a vehicle is Nottingham or Trent Barton as they both have route liveries.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: JoNi on January 09, 2015, 12:37:05 PM

Many of comments reflect the reality that The Transforming Bus Travel initiative is currently short term by its nature.
There has never been a commitment made on future expectations of NX vehicle lifespan. This would allow a straight forward calculation of the annual number of vehicles required.
There has never been an expectation that passenger numbers will grow requiring increased fleet size as in London.
The refurbishment process seems to be an attempt to patch up the existing fleet rather than a vehicle mid life revamp which could include being repainted into the new livery.
I'm sure the external colour (as against the condition) of the bus is pretty low on the average bus user as against it running on time, having a clear destination display amongst other things.

Long term vision is required from leaders that bus users and employees can relate to. Not the sort that says Birmingham is going to have Sprint in the future.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Stu on January 09, 2015, 06:24:22 PM

The new buses in the new livery aren't going to start being delivered until March, so they shouldn't start repainting the old buses into new livery before then, otherwise it sort of devalues the point of the new livery.

Maybe we'll start seeing some of the 'newer' older buses get repainted into the new livery from next year, I wouldn't expect to see any done before then.

In the meantime, I'd like to see the current buses just 'tidied up' a little, those that have been in red/white for some time now.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on January 09, 2015, 07:01:15 PM

Quote from: Winston on January 09, 2015, 12:13:14 AM
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 08, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Well Trent's fleet is all in different liveries intentionally for their routes - certainly noticed that (along with NCT) when I've been to Nottingham numerous times last year. At least they look similar in design and as most are route branded it makes sense. Would be great to know why they don't do the repaints from now in the new livery considering it is going to become the standard one - they can start getting going now considering it's going to be the new standard livery. Why just save it for the new buses? I for one would appreciate YW and AG Scanias being repainted into it - will make a positive impression on the passengers - combined with refurbished seats. I mean they could get going by redoing PB's two Scanias in at the moment - paint a third into it and the 952 would already benefit from refurbished buses in the correct standard livery.

However enough moaning - I must say well done to NX for their heavy investment in the fleet - having just read the news article they've released that is an impressive amount of new buses in 2015. Shows they are really looking to improve the quality of their services and improving journeys.

It's by far the most sensible solution to phase the new livery in on new buses only from 2015 onwards, it took circa 7 years to get the whole fleet in the same livery (even then there are still numerous variations of standard livery). The way new buses are allocated to specific routes/corridors these days, NX should introduce the new image route by route or on a specific corridor, passengers will then easily identify the new investment as routes are upgraded.

My mistake Tony - perhaps Diamond aren't that great at letting them not stray at times ;)

That does make sense actually Winston - say the 51 gets new buses, then the new livery can be associated with that and people can see it has been upgraded. Then NX can address the livery route by route, which actually is an organised way of doing it. Means the main corridor routes can stand out with the fringe routes in the older NX livery, which is fine considering the 2012 plus ones have the smart vivid red livery. Noticed the YW and AG Single decks are in good condition anyway externally - if they could just do the seat cushions that would be fine.

One thing I have noticed is that garages could do with standardising on replacement seat cushions. Rode recently refurbished 4383 this afternoon and already has a new "old style" TWM lower seat. Amazed they still have them in stock ;) Noticed 2115 the other day had two "newer" TWM seat cushions - despite those buses never had that moquette anyway.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: John on January 09, 2015, 07:24:53 PM

Quote from: Liberator9 on January 09, 2015, 07:01:15 PM
Rode recently refurbished 4383 this afternoon and already has a new "old style" TWM lower seat.

4242 is exactly the same, it has an old TWM seat at the back downstairs

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Liberator9 on January 09, 2015, 07:59:18 PM

I'd love to know how they still have stocks of them! ;) I think I saw on here that one of BC's Enviro 400s has one already as well.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Kevin_Brum12 on January 09, 2015, 09:08:55 PM

In some respects the new red livery has come as a result of a realisation that any vehicle with a large area white livery will be very difficult to keep clean, particularly if it is in the winter. A dirty bus does not present a good image. This is something British Rail discovered in the 70's - they decided to paint their refurbished DMU's out of dull BR blue into white with a blue band. Unfortunately the white did not stay white for very long and the refurbished units were soon sent back for a repaint (this time in corporate blue and grey).

The launch of the current livery was awful - with some buses turned out with TWM logos, some TWM logos with NX corporate branding, some with the grey connector bars, some not, some ancient rubbish repainted into new colours. It was badly executed and is a legacy of the disastrous Richard Bowker reign. ::)

Still it will keep the enthusiast happy, firstly keeping an eye out for red and platinum vehicles, then as re-painting gets done the vehicles in older colours with interest intensifying once the total goes below a hundred. And then as the last ones are scrapped or have a trip to the paintbrush the whole process starts again.

At least its more interesting though than 100% red London!

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: The Real 4778 on January 13, 2015, 06:15:15 PM

Maybe more interesting, but the civic pride that London retains by keeping sovereignty of the image it wants its buses to portray, is worth far more. If the West Midlands' local councils had half an idea of marketing their region, they would (amongst many other 'soft' factors) dictate that tendered routes be operated by bus fleets decorated in a livery relevant to the area they serve, and not some half-baked corporate rubbish changed on a whim.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on January 13, 2015, 06:23:14 PM

Quote from: The Real 4778 on January 13, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
Maybe more interesting, but the civic pride that London retains by keeping sovereignty of the image it wants its buses to portray, is worth far more. If the West Midlands' local councils had half an idea of marketing their region, they would (amongst many other 'soft' factors) dictate that tendered routes be operated by bus fleets decorated in a livery relevant to the area they serve, and not some half-baked corporate rubbish changed on a whim.

I quite like Central Buses livery :D

Problem is a lot of tendered journeys only make up one or two trips a day, what is that bus supposed to do the rest of the day

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: The Real 4778 on January 14, 2015, 03:25:42 PM

Quote from: Tony on January 13, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on January 13, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
Maybe more interesting, but the civic pride that London retains by keeping sovereignty of the image it wants its buses to portray, is worth far more. If the West Midlands' local councils had half an idea of marketing their region, they would (amongst many other 'soft' factors) dictate that tendered routes be operated by bus fleets decorated in a livery relevant to the area they serve, and not some half-baked corporate rubbish changed on a whim.

I quite like Central Buses livery :D

Problem is a lot of tendered journeys only make up one or two trips a day, what is that bus supposed to do the rest of the day

I don't disagree, and London's a very different case, but for the core fleet it could be a no-brainer.

Title: Re: Vehicles in service in TWM Livery
Post by: Tony on January 14, 2015, 03:50:44 PM

Quote from: The Real 4778 on January 14, 2015, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 13, 2015, 06:23:14 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on January 13, 2015, 06:15:15 PM
Maybe more interesting, but the civic pride that London retains by keeping sovereignty of the image it wants its buses to portray, is worth far more. If the West Midlands' local councils had half an idea of marketing their region, they would (amongst many other 'soft' factors) dictate that tendered routes be operated by bus fleets decorated in a livery relevant to the area they serve, and not some half-baked corporate rubbish changed on a whim.

I quite like Central Buses livery :D

Problem is a lot of tendered journeys only make up one or two trips a day, what is that bus supposed to do the rest of the day

I don't disagree, and London's a very different case, but for the core fleet it could be a no-brainer.

The way things are going all tendered services will be operated by buses in the same livery - Igo!

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