Vehicles in service in TWM Livery

[Tony]

Total 61 -   (to be painted 43, to be withdrawn 18)

CV 4401 & PB 4242 also arrived at Walsall today

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (9)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4587; 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (6)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (7)

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (6)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1818
PB 4242; 4281
PE 4349
WA 4131
WB 4248; 4270
WN 4570; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

[Tony]

Total 61 -   (to be painted 43, to be withdrawn 18) - possibly 60 3605 may have died

4570 has returned to Wolverhampton; 4587 has gone to Walsall

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4615; 4627 (3)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353; (1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4137; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (9)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4374; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4722; 4723; 4731; (10)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4611; 4613
BY 1818
PB 4242; 4281
PE 4349
WA 4131
WB 4248; 4270
WN 4587; 4589; 4595
YW 4719; 4724
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

[Stuharris 6360]

Looks like it will be a race between YW & WA to see which garage has the last bus in old livery with PE likely to be the next garage totally new livery garage,

[uniquicity]

I have been told that 1818 is back in service repainted, so all the Scanias should be done now

[Tony]

Total 55 -   (to be painted 37, to be withdrawn 18)

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3605; 3610; 3612; 3614 (6)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4417; 4420


While I have been in Spain
1818; 4595; 4611; 4719 & 4724 have all been completed
4353 has gone to Carlyle for accident repairs
4137; 4374; 4615 & 4722 have all gone to Walsall for refurb

[Tony]

Total 54 -   (to be painted 37, to be withdrawn 17)

3605 has arrived at Miller Street today

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4415; 4416; 4419 (6)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4417; 4420

[Westy]

Intrigued to know, now vehicles are being withdrawn in NX livery,  was there a 'cut off date' for certain classes of vehicles that had to be repainted?

For example,  how many B6's were still in service when the repaints started?

If B6's were only meant to last say another 5 years, would it have been worth them being repainted,  while Presidents would  last say 10 years so those would've been worth repainting.

Mercedes, again, apart from the ones moved from Coventry into the main fleet,  what was the likely length of retention?

I suppose apart from really bad examples externally that were ok mechanically,  surely the livery change could've been done via natural wastage & fleet renewal?

[Tony]

Total 53 -   (to be painted 36, to be withdrawn 17)

4415 now at Walsall, 4417 back at Coventry

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4718; 4720; 4723; 4731; (8 )
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415; 4420

[Tony]

Total 52 -   (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 17)

4718 is now at Walsall for refurbishment

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3610; 3612; 3614 (5)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(trailways); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415; 4420

[Tony]

Total 51 -   (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 16)

3610 is now at Miller Street withdrawn

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353(Carlyle)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WA); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

[Tony]

Total 50 -   (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

Down by one with the death of 1683 at Wolverhampton
although it may go back up by 1 as 4353 has had accident repairs finished at Carlyle and is now having mechanical repairs at a place in Great Bridge. It may return to Pensnett for a couple of weeks in old livery.

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(YW); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

[Tony]

Total 51 -   (to be painted 36, to be withdrawn 15)

Back up 1 as 4353 is now back at Pensnett repaired, but not refurbished

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668(currently at PE); 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

[don]

Is it my imagination or is the volume of buses in works for refurb lowering? It used to be around 20 at a time. If the same engineering policy was being followed you'd expect early NXWM livered vehicles to be starting to trickle through. I couldn't help noticing the NXWM engineering director has moved to Arriva NE - I wonder if there will be any change.

The standard of the fleet had improved massively over recent years - but hopefully it won't be a flash in the pan and back to the old ways.

[Tony]

Is it my imagination or is the volume of buses in works for refurb lowering? It used to be around 20 at a time. If the same engineering policy was being followed you'd expect early NXWM livered vehicles to be starting to trickle through. I couldn't help noticing the NXWM engineering director has moved to Arriva NE - I wonder if there will be any change.

The standard of the fleet had improved massively over recent years - but hopefully it won't be a flash in the pan and back to the old ways.

No, the level is actually higher than it has been since Tyburn Road shut. Up until a couple of years ago it was normally about 7 in the paintshop, two at BC and one at Walsall garage. Each garage would normally have one bus in for repaint at ant time.

Now, with the BC refurb bays moved to Walsall there is normally 3 there, one at West Bromwich and three at Trailways with Carlyle doing accident repairs. The paintshop cannot take more than about 7 on space grounds

[Westy]

Total 50 -   (to be painted 35, to be withdrawn 15)

Down by one with the death of 1683 at Wolverhampton
although it may go back up by 1 as 4353 has had accident repairs finished at Carlyle and is now having mechanical repairs at a place in Great Bridge. It may return to Pensnett for a couple of weeks in old livery.

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246; 4276 (3)
WA - 4130; 4133; 4306; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (8 )
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; 4419 (5)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
WB 1666; 1668; 3612; 3614 (4)
WN 1662; 1669; 1672; 1673; 1674; 1679; 1681; 1682; 1683; 1685 (10)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4242(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA); 4353
WA 4131(WA); 4137(trailways)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA); 4589(WB)
YW 4374(YW); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(trailways); 4420

This place in Great Bridge,  is it on the Spine Road as I  saw a Merc go there a few months back?