Vehicles in service in TWM Livery

[JoNi]

Modern buses are surely ones you can still buy new which would include types such as Enviros, Gemini's,  E200/300,  Solos but not Plaxton Presidents and ALX400's which are no longer available.

Buses are part of cities identity and like Birmingham Central it's unfortunate that National Express only retained a local identity in Coventry, albeit I would have preferred something based on 4453.

[Mike K]

Modern buses are surely ones you can still buy new which would include types such as Enviros, Gemini's,  E200/300,  Solos but not Plaxton Presidents and ALX400's which are no longer available.

Buses are part of cities identity and like Birmingham Central it's unfortunate that National Express only retained a local identity in Coventry, albeit I would have preferred something based on 4453.

I would argue that where Arriva, Stagecoach and First dominate, which let's face it is many major cities in the UK, neither the generic bus liveries nor the generic bus types are characteristic of a city anymore. Wherever you go the buses look the same. There was definitely a lot more character years back, with the differing liveries, and even buses that weren't exclusive to a particular region often looked very different in various parts of the country due e.g. to unique number and destination layouts. These days, you've seen one E400 or Wright Gemini you've seen them all. I'm glad that in my days of being an enthusiast there was a whole lot more to be enthusiastic about.

[paulb1973]

Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

[Tony]

Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

Not been altered to withdrawn on the company computer, but yes it will never run again

[PM]

Tony, I thought 3 vehicle types would be eliminated with this years deliveries?
Short E200s have seen off Solos and I assume the WB Darts by the end of this month
Long E200s based on the locations would see of remaining WB, PL and WA B6s
So what has changed?

And there are now no Merc Varios in use with 241 taken out the training fleet

Is 241 now to be regarded as 'withdrawn' ?

Not been altered to withdrawn on the company computer, but yes it will never run again

Has the preservation attempt been successful?

[Tony]

Total 40 -   (to be painted 32, to be withdrawn 8 )

4419 now at Walsall, 4420 back at Coventry finished

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4590; 4592; 4594; 4596 (5)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

[Ronnoc]

4370 might be repainted once they decide on removing the all-over advert. It might happen!

[trident4370]

If anything I'd say 4370 will probably be one of the last buses to be repainted as it hasn't had that advert for more than 2 months, usually they seem to keep them on for around 12 months, although I guess different companies have different contracts so it might not stay on for that long.

[Tony]

Total 39 -   (to be painted 31, to be withdrawn 8 )

4590 now at Walsall for refurb

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4720; 4723; 4731; (7)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4248(WA); 4270(trailways)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

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[The Real 4778]

Will the O405Ns survive the visit of the last decker to the paintshop....?  Suppose their MOT dates are the clincher.

[JoNi]

Refurbished 4420 seen being driven round in Coventry by mechanic already has rear advert on engine cover.

[Tony]

Total 38 -   (to be painted 30, to be withdrawn 8 )

4722 back in service at YW; 4720 at walsall for refurb
4248 refurb finished at Walsall, not yet back at WB, called into place on Black Country route for attention on way back.
4270 refurb finished at Trailways now at Walsall for paint

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4229; 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (5)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(WA); 4137(trailways); 4306 (WA)
WB 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4720 (WA); 4722(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

[Tony]

Total 37 -   (to be painted 29, to be withdrawn 8 )

4722 back in service at YW. 4720 at Walsall for refurb
4248 back at WB, 4229 now at Trailways for refurb.
4137; 4270 refurb finished at Trailways now at Walsall for paint

In service in old livery to be painted
BC - 4432; 4627 (2)   + 4177 in experimental livery
PB - 4241; 4246 (2)
PE - 4353(1)
WA - 4133; 4307; 4308; 4329; 4331; 4332 (6)
WB - 4264; 4265; 4273; 4297 (4)
WN - 4588; 4592; 4594; 4596 (4)
YW - 4362; 4370; 4379; 4389; 4723; 4731; (6)
CV - 4398; 4404; 4409; 4416; (4)

of these 4177; 4246; 4370; 4432 are currently carrying allover advert liveries

Vehicles that will be withdrawn in old livery
PE 1668 (1)
WN 1662; 1672; 1673; 1681; 1685 (5)
CV 1548; 1608; (2)

Vehicles currently being refurbished
BC 4613(Carlyle); 4615 (WA)
PB 4276(WA); 4281(WA)
PE 4349(WA)
WA 4130(trailways); 4137(WA); 4306 (WA)
WB 4229 (Trailways); 4270(WA)
WN 4587(WA);
YW 4374(WB); 4718 (WA); 4720(WA)
CV 4401; 4415(Trailways); 4419(WA)

[Dutsey]

Saw the 4308 on the 77 in Sutton today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/15167699900/in/set-72157648020517122

[Cheese]

Just seen 4281 on the 16 looking very shiny, first day out maybe after repaint?