Just thought I'd start a depot based thread for Tividale.
Would
@Liverpool Street or
@Winston be able to sticky it?
Done
@the trainbasher
30881 was out on the 4H yesterday out of Tividale
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11026/category/5
30861 and a new b7rle 30882 series maybe on 002.
What services are 30881 & 30882 on today
30881 I have caught two days running on the 4H both on the 8:10 departure from halesowen to walsall. It may not be on there today though
Apologies but I need to update myself on Tividale's Happenings.
Could someone fill me in on the recent transfers into TE? The last I checked some of the Redditch B7RLE's had moved over (How many of these transferred in total?)
I would be very appreciative :)
Thanks
30856,30859.30861 and 30862. I think there may be a few more.
30881 on 4H departed halesowen for walsall at 14:28. Hope that helps
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
30881 on 4H departed halesowen for walsall at 14:28. Hope that helps
her is 30881 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16356937765/in/photostream/ along with 30880 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15736988783/
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
That's interesting, as I thought 30883 had been operating gout of Redditch depot
@Winston maybe it's over its gout!!
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
That bus was on 002 yesterday
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
30881 on 4H departed halesowen for walsall at 14:28. Hope that helps
her is 30881 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16356937765/in/photostream/ along with 30880 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15736988783/
What's the difference between the two?
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
That's interesting, as I thought 30883 had been operating gout of Redditch depot
I thought it was at Long Acre, one of them was on the 50
30489 &30490 are at long acre
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
That's interesting, as I thought 30883 had been operating gout of Redditch depot
I thought it was at Long Acre, one of them was on the 50
30489 &30490 are at long acre
They're Enviro300s
Yes...
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 24, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
one of diamond new buses decided to break down in Walsall causing chaos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16169621730/
That's interesting, as I thought 30883 had been operating gout of Redditch depot
I thought it was at Long Acre, one of them was on the 50
30489 &30490 are at long acre
They're Enviro300s
Yes...
Not B7s, there was an 04 plate B7 on the 50 the other day
Yes Tony has a pic of that bus on 16, few days ago
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:21:18 PM
Not B7s, there was an 04 plate B7 on the 50 the other day
It could have been 30884 SJ04DVM as that hasn't entered service yet
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:27:35 PM
30882, Tony has it as at Redditch though
That photo was taken 27th Dec before it moved to Redditch
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
I think putting regular drivers on particular routes really helps improve customer service, as does the lack of assault screen plus the ability to give change.
Tividale does have a very modern fleet now with older darts fast disappearing from service and a fair number of recent b7rle's arriving.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 24, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
I think putting regular drivers on particular routes really helps improve customer service, as does the lack of assault screen plus the ability to give change.
Tividale does have a very modern fleet now with older darts fast disappearing from service and a fair number of recent b7rle's arriving.
It is a question of safety with the assault screens. I hope it never happens but if a Diamond driver was seriously assaulted they would have a case against the company for not protecting their employees in the workplace. I think it is not sensible to not have the screens, it isn't like the old days anymore with passengers knowing drivers etc, most just want to go from A to B without a problem, and for most a simple thank you at the end of the journey is enough. As for change, as a driver for a company who gives it out, it is a nightmare and I would give a lot for us to have some NXWM cast off coin shutes!!! Carrying money about is another safety issue. In both cases I think NXWM have it spot on.
Quote from: j789 on January 24, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 24, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
I think putting regular drivers on particular routes really helps improve customer service, as does the lack of assault screen plus the ability to give change.
Tividale does have a very modern fleet now with older darts fast disappearing from service and a fair number of recent b7rle's arriving.
It is a question of safety with the assault screens. I hope it never happens but if a Diamond driver was seriously assaulted they would have a case against the company for not protecting their employees in the workplace. I think it is not sensible to not have the screens, it isn't like the old days anymore with passengers knowing drivers etc, most just want to go from A to B without a problem, and for most a simple thank you at the end of the journey is enough. As for change, as a driver for a company who gives it out, it is a nightmare and I would give a lot for us to have some NXWM cast off coin shutes!!! Carrying money about is another safety issue. In both cases I think NXWM have it spot on.
The way WM operators give change is inefficient tbh though. In the North East, we have two main operators who give change-Arriva and Go North East both of which use change dispensing machines where money is already sorted into denominations, they just click and the right coins come out as opposed to rummaging about in a cash bag like some WM operators do...
Quote from: j789 on January 24, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 24, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
I think putting regular drivers on particular routes really helps improve customer service, as does the lack of assault screen plus the ability to give change.
Tividale does have a very modern fleet now with older darts fast disappearing from service and a fair number of recent b7rle's arriving.
It is a question of safety with the assault screens. I hope it never happens but if a Diamond driver was seriously assaulted they would have a case against the company for not protecting their employees in the workplace. I think it is not sensible to not have the screens, it isn't like the old days anymore with passengers knowing drivers etc, most just want to go from A to B without a problem, and for most a simple thank you at the end of the journey is enough. As for change, as a driver for a company who gives it out, it is a nightmare and I would give a lot for us to have some NXWM cast off coin shutes!!! Carrying money about is another safety issue. In both cases I think NXWM have it spot on.
This is interesting but I do know that Simon doesn't like exact fare (and neither do I if truth be known) as I have asked him about it before so there is no chance that a coin shute will be introduced on any Diamond Buses.
Quote from: j789 on January 24, 2015, 10:37:53 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 24, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
Ahh, thanks Winston, Diamond confuse me!
The fleet numbers are quite confusing
Agreed, they do have a quite modern fleet now though, and i must say most of the drivers on the 4H are top class. I guess that's where nxwm fail. The drivers can't build a reputation with the customers, as they are put on so many different bus routes. I also think it helps that there is no cage round the cab as it makes the drivers more personal and friendly.
I think putting regular drivers on particular routes really helps improve customer service, as does the lack of assault screen plus the ability to give change.
Tividale does have a very modern fleet now with older darts fast disappearing from service and a fair number of recent b7rle's arriving.
It is a question of safety with the assault screens. I hope it never happens but if a Diamond driver was seriously assaulted they would have a case against the company for not protecting their employees in the workplace. I think it is not sensible to not have the screens, it isn't like the old days anymore with passengers knowing drivers etc, most just want to go from A to B without a problem, and for most a simple thank you at the end of the journey is enough. As for change, as a driver for a company who gives it out, it is a nightmare and I would give a lot for us to have some NXWM cast off coin shutes!!! Carrying money about is another safety issue. In both cases I think NXWM have it spot on.
Having driven for both companies I had far less grief and hassle with an open cab as opposed to being boxed in. Diamond have had dvr's assaulted but so have NX with their fixed screens,sad fact is if they want to get at you they will regardless.
Got the brilliant 30437 on the 4H, not seen this in ages, ageing a bit, with the handbrake making the loud noise, I do quite like bench seats. I'm surprised that this hasn't been transferred to kidderminster
30813 was getting battered this evening on the 002
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
30813 was getting battered this evening on the 002
Was it parked in the local chip shop?
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
30813 was getting battered this evening on the 002
Was it parked in the local chip shop?
So that's why I saw an unidentified frying object in there! :)
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
30813 was getting battered this evening on the 002
Was it parked in the local chip shop?
It was being driven extremely fast, high revving, reminded me of 30832
30880 was on 4H today, think 30881 was also
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2015, 04:07:53 PM
SJ04 DVK on 4H. Fleetnumber would be a nice touch..!
I was on it, the seats are like rocks. Weird setup of a bus, yet another interior. Sounds good
a daylight pic of ex 002 branded bus https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15789778674/
30859 has been repainted
30860 also now actually moved over to Tividale.
Inspector at halesowen regulating the 4H earlier
I'm sure there were a few blue b7s on 002, which may be why. The 002 branded buses don't seem to be out very often now, I would say there is at least two in the garage at one time
Quote from: Matt on February 11, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 11, 2015, 06:47:12 PM
I'm sure there were a few blue b7s on 002, which may be why. The 002 branded buses don't seem to be out very often now, I would say there is at least two in the garage at one time
Quote from: Simon Dunn on February 11, 2015, 01:31:40 PM
We currently have 5 x B7's in paint in an aim to complete them all.
Might be in for paint ?
heading towards Long Acre last night
http://wmbusphotos.com/diamondpages/A801.html
301/2 branded B7RLE (Ex Redditch) on the 25A/C tonight. Passed me at 21:49 on Wednesfield High St
Quote from: Nathan on February 14, 2015, 09:49:21 PM
301/2 branded B7RLE (Ex Redditch) on the 25A/C tonight. Passed me at 21:49 on Wednesfield High St
It comes off a 302 working so there should be one most nights
Breaking news: I'm pretty sure the 002 has got new branding. Think it was on 30811, looks very smart I must admit
30881 has it
30810,30811,30880,30881 are the first four to receive the 002 branding both internal and externals all done.
And none probably have Brierley Hill spelt correctly...
Branding it again, would have thought they ought to withdraw it.
Just found a link to someone's flickr page which shows the rear of one of the versions of the 002 branded bus backs.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/16567563006/
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 20, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
And none probably have Brierley Hill spelt correctly...
Doesn't go there anyway? Or have I missed something?
Quote from: Matt on February 22, 2015, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: Kevin on February 22, 2015, 10:05:51 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 20, 2015, 07:18:45 PM
And none probably have Brierley Hill spelt correctly...
Doesn't go there anyway? Or have I missed something?
I think it was advertising connections for the 226? Not sure though
Yep. It advertises connections at Weoley, Halesowen and MH
Looks good. Route branding is always good I think to raise profile, hopefully Redditch will get some fresh branding and Kidderminster could do with some branding I think for the 3 at least and the 142!
Wouldn't be surprised to see the 4, 16, 142 and 226 get branded again
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 22, 2015, 09:26:02 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see the 4, 16, 142 and 226 get branded again
Kidderminster was at one stage going to brand (and re-trim) 20658 (V658 HEC* - now sold) for the number 1 (Rifle Range) but it never materialised so I don't think they will brand the 142 if I'm honest as like I say they never branded the 1 but yet it was common knowledge they were going to
Quote from: Will on February 22, 2015, 09:35:11 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 22, 2015, 09:26:02 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see the 4, 16, 142 and 226 get branded again
Kidderminster was at one stage going to brand (and re-trim) 20658 (V658 HEC* - now sold) for the number 1 (Rifle Range) but it never materialised so I don't think they will brand the 142 if I'm honest as like I say they never branded the 1 but yet it was common knowledge they were going to
I did wonder why 20658 was on the 1 for about a month solid after the route was launched last June.
Quote from: Matt on February 24, 2015, 07:46:12 PM
Currently on a completely empty 002. I don't remember seeing much publicity about the 002 running later into the evening. Perhaps if they had they would be carrying more than fresh air.
The interior branding is great though, much better than the hideous mess on the outside. Corporate theme really shows throughout and the designs are quite attractive to look at.
Give it time! Earlier and later journeys have only been going since yesterday... ::)
Quote from: Will on February 22, 2015, 09:35:11 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 22, 2015, 09:26:02 PM
Wouldn't be surprised to see the 4, 16, 142 and 226 get branded again
Kidderminster was at one stage going to brand (and re-trim) 20658 (V658 HEC* - now sold) for the number 1 (Rifle Range) but it never materialised so I don't think they will brand the 142 if I'm honest as like I say they never branded the 1 but yet it was common knowledge they were going to
I would imagine that the 142 is mostly likely to be branded because its diamond value. So Far new Diamond branding has only been for diamond value so statically its the most likeliest
3 002s were parked up in merry hill at 16:00
Hopefully we'll see less of the unbranded Volvos now
30825 and a b7 have been going round together practically all day, 30825 has gathered a nice engine noice
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2015, 05:12:49 PM
3 002s were parked up in merry hill at 16:00
One left with some quite extensive damage to the side around 16:20
What is the 002 branded one that has the near side panels missing with diamond on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2015, 07:38:55 PM
What is the 002 branded one that has the near side panels missing with diamond on?
It is 30811 I think
Quote from: Matt on February 27, 2015, 07:20:43 PM
02 plate Dart on the 002 but not the 205 board, a branded Centro is on that
20518 if of interest
Quote from: Ash on February 20, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
30810,30811,30880,30881 are the first four to receive the 002 branding both internal and externals all done.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16496543840/in/photostream/
Quote from: Solo1 on March 01, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: Ash on February 20, 2015, 07:13:30 PM
30810,30811,30880,30881 are the first four to receive the 002 branding both internal and externals all done.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16496543840/in/photostream/
I'm yet to go one yet, unfortunately got the horrible 30860 instead😞
What service is 30854 on today
What is used on the 124?
What operates on 647?
Solos of Long Acres
Seems diamond are smoking something unusual as today's delights include 20507 running to Hansons times and the allocator putting a 301 branded Volvo on the 4H...
They are slipping putting a dart on 226!
From what I remember of 20507 it wasn't exactly the most powerful dart in the fleet so probably wasn't running to hansons times deliberately. I can imagine it was doing some serious sweating on the hills lol. I assume something broke down because I doubt 20507 would have been allocated to the 226 from the start this morning.
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 13, 2015, 09:12:55 PM
Seems diamond are smoking something unusual as today's delights include 20507 running to Hansons times and the allocator putting a 301 branded Volvo on the 4H...
They are slipping putting a dart on 226!
30834 was on the 4H on Wednesday, what a pleasant surprise it was
I'm sure I saw a diamond repainted 3085?today on 4 's one of the ex Redditch ones dhp or something like
that as I was waiting for a bus over the road so only had a quick look as it passed
Quote from: Solo1 on March 21, 2015, 11:42:45 PM
I'm sure I saw a diamond repainted 3085?today on 4 's one of the ex Redditch ones dhp or something like
that as I was waiting for a bus over the road so only had a quick look as it passed
Probably 30854/30859?
Probably 30854 as that is usually on the 4
Quote from: Solo1 on March 21, 2015, 11:42:45 PM
I'm sure I saw a diamond repainted 3085?today on 4 's one of the ex Redditch ones dhp or something like
that as I was waiting for a bus over the road so only had a quick look as it passed
The bus you seen would of been 30858 which was on the 4 on Saturday.
another 002 in the new livery https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16894376622/
20540 now residing in a scrapyard in Barnsley...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/16906676945/
Quote from: Cheese on March 23, 2015, 05:47:15 PM
20540 now residing in a scrapyard in Barnsley...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/16906676945/
It's a place Rotala use for engine rebuilds etc
Quote from: Winston on March 23, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
It's a place Rotala use for engine rebuilds etc
I did wonder, did seem rather new to be going for scrap unless it has suffered some major problem.
20502
and[/u] I 20867 were on the 226 today. Shocking Allocation for a solo route!
Quote from: Cheese on March 23, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
I did wonder, did seem rather new to be going for scrap unless it has suffered some major problem.
You would get my hopes up :(
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 23, 2015, 07:23:07 PM
20502 and[/u] I 20867 were on the 226 today. Shocking Allocation for a solo route!
You would get my hopes up :(
You moan at solos, and now you moan at darts! What do you expect on there? Centros, b7rles, Royales? You would probably still Moan then though aswell. I'm sorry but the 226 is highly the most important diamond routes
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 23, 2015, 07:46:13 PM
You moan at solos, and now you moan at darts! What do you expect on there? Centros, b7rles, Royales? You would probably still Moan then though aswell. I'm sorry but the 226 is highly the most important diamond routes
I was being sarcastic! Some decent, working darts would do...something like the 54 plate ones that diamond have...not PVS dodgers. :)
Although some Royales would be nicer! :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 23, 2015, 08:00:32 PM
I was being sarcastic! Some decent, working darts would do...something like the 54 plate ones that diamond have...not PVS dodgers. :)
Although some Royales would be nicer! :)
Would you be speaking of the Ex First ones at Kidderminster?
If so what would Kidderminster get in return?
I personally think Rotala need to invest to replace worn out buses and not move them around all the time. I say this as the 54 plates will be turning 11 years old and won't last for ever. And those Kiddie Darts aren't that healthly due to the routes they get used on which have put pressure on them. The ideal would have the six 54 plates bought but like everything else First had a price for those that was too much.
The value branded buses are a disgrace. Should have kept them away from walsall. Worst buses ever, so slow
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 24, 2015, 06:12:49 PM
The value branded buses are a disgrace. Should have kept them away from walsall. Worst buses ever, so slow
here's a suggestion...put them on the 226...we'll be able to have some decent buses!
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 24, 2015, 06:17:16 PM
here's a suggestion...put them on the 226...we'll be able to have some decent buses!
Your welcome to the ****
Tividale needs some e300s, at least there decent,
Very dissapointed to see 30218 withdrawn, one of the buses that I grew up on being ex ludlows, it was always fast, great bus, will miss you
saw this today at west brom https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16750691117/
Vehicles now returned to Tividale from Kidderminster (due to the 142/202 returning to Tividale);
20574; KP51 SXW - Tividale
20851; KU52 RYN - Tividale
30439; W567 JVV - Tividale
30512; S377 TMB - Tividale
20002; KP02 PUY - Tividale
And also...
20032; MV54 EEO - Long Acre
30704; KX57 OVS - Long Acre
Quote from: Matt on March 29, 2015, 10:39:33 PM
Tonight's 243s are 20202 and 20841, been on both, is this normal?
the 1905, ex merry hill should be off the 002. The 2005, 2205 ex merry hill should be off depot
Guest appearance on the 002 tonight...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/11084464_10153139305318116_1882774599_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2c894b8afa978e97a99b955ba302d150&oe=551C8F87&__gda__=1428018198_b2bad713c79aec37f853f01bb669065d)
Vehicles transferred in from Kidderminster I believe are currently 20574, 20851, 30439 and 30512.
Quote from: Ash on April 01, 2015, 10:22:36 PM
Vehicles transferred in from Kidderminster I believe are currently 20574, 20851, 30439 and 30512.
We don't want 30512!
What's the chances of a solo appearing on 142? I think it's very high now we get random buses on there. Yesterday we had 20543
Anyone know what the other bus on 142 is? I know that 20202 is one
Drivers on the 142 used to be on 002 and 4H
Drivers on 202 used to be on 002
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 02, 2015, 02:38:39 PM
Drivers on the 142 used to be on 002 and 4H
Drivers on 202 used to be on 002
That's because the routes have moved back to Tividale and Tividale drivers will now be on the route again.
Quote from: Matt on April 02, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
30512 on 4/4H today
At least I haven't caught it.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 02, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
At least I haven't caught it.
I can honestly say that from my experience today, it's good to know the anchors work
20849 now actually at Tividale.
I know i asked this before but who do i contact to visit any diamond garage
Quote from: Rhys S on April 04, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
I know i asked this before but who do i contact to visit any diamond garage
Rhys,
Please could you pm me on here and I can give you the relevant people's contact details
Quote from: Rhys S on April 04, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
I know i asked this before but who do i contact to visit any diamond garage
Look through the "Questions to Rotala Management" thread
well there seems to be one bus on diamond 25 today
10.43 to i54 shown up but the 10.40 to bilston from wood end is a no show by the looks of it
Quote from: Matt on April 09, 2015, 09:54:30 AM
Cadet on the 4H...just left Halesowen for Walsall
Is he early or late, as its due out at 45 past or 58 past?
Quote from: Matt on April 09, 2015, 10:02:36 AM
45 past, was at Earls island at 9:53
Should have done 14:45 to Walsall from halesowen
30808-4H
Not a single solo on the 226...I like it!
20539 was on 226 earlier, that is not suitable for that route
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2015, 07:28:52 PM
20539 was on 226 earlier, that is not suitable for that route
Yeah, was on the 0820, 1020, 1220, 1420, 1620 and 1820 services
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 10, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
Yeah, was on the 0820, 1020, 1220, 1420, 1620 and 1820 services
I saw it on 14:20 ex merry hill
If anyone knows what busses are on 202 would be appreciated. I'm guessing 2 b7rles.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2015, 08:28:19 AM
If anyone knows what busses are on 202 would be appreciated. I'm guessing 2 b7rles.
I've seen one so far and that was a B7
Most 226 journys are being diverted via Brierley Hill Road and Moor Street (the old Petes travel route) as there is resurfacing on Swan Lane
Black diamond mpd euro 3 replaced 20573
@Trident 4194 was it 20852 that replaced it?
The 1050 226 ex merry hill has failed to show at Kingswinford. Too hot for the solos??
edit: hamsons arrived 6 late, so presume diamond fto
Passenger telling diamond they're an absolute joke of a bus company
30823 has been on the 226 according to a report I have had sent. Arrived merry hill 1830.
30860 is starting to sound like the Brick did before it had the problem sorted. Not complaining great sound
There's a diamond on 4H broken down in Hayley green, I'm thinking it may be 30413 as I had it this morning and was making some bad sounding noises
The PVR of the 29 is 3, today it is 20573, 30492, 30888
The 002 must be short of buses again.
30813- 4H- absolutely fantastic bus, so fast !
Quote from: Matt on May 07, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
20508 on 002
Seen it as it replaced Diamond 308--
My brother also informed me that an 002 vehicle was puffing out smoke and the engine compartment open on the bottom of drews holloway/belle vale
Anyone know if the 4H inter works with the 4? Or could tell me if 30492 was the 4H from Halesowen to Walsall when would it be likely to see it in Halesowen again. Thank you
30492 is an amazing bus!!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2015, 03:48:49 PM
30492 is an amazing bus!!!
I won't say an E300 is an amazing bus. Though they are better than most other buses on the market and those at Redditch.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2015, 12:05:19 PM
Anyone know if the 4H inter works with the 4? Or could tell me if 30492 was the 4H from Halesowen to Walsall when would it be likely to see it in Halesowen again. Thank you
The 4 and 4H do not interwork.
301/2 branded on the 40 today. Passed me in Stone Cross earlier
20544- 142 recommend this bus
Quote from: Matt on May 29, 2015, 07:04:09 PM
Black diamond bus on fire on coombes hill apparently, heading there now to investigate
Probably 30439! Hope not
Are the 142 and / or 202 now back at Tividale?
Yes they've been back for over a month or two
Quote from: Matt on June 04, 2015, 06:25:09 PM
20502 on the 002
I think that the dart working on the 002 comes off the 1450 282 ex Gornal...I need to check though
Quote from: Matt on June 04, 2015, 06:47:47 PM
It goes on the 205 doesn't it?
Yeah that is right
20602 is back at Tividale and was on the 142 today
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3339
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 04, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
20602 is back at Tividale and was on the 142 today
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3339
Can't see picture your website doesn't let me scroll down on diamond vehicles
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 04, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
Can't see picture your website doesn't let me scroll down on diamond vehicles
the Rotala (http://www.busphotography.co.uk/index.php?/category/4) link shows the complete list on there
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 04, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
the Rotala (http://www.busphotography.co.uk/index.php?/category/4) link shows the complete list on there
Thanks
20869 thought it was on the 226W today
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/22
20913 presumably the 1750 ex dudley arrived at russells hall hospital at 1825, throwing out black smoke once again. Nice to get covered in fumes as the bus drives off.
@bususer12 20913 was the 1820 ex Dudley (arrived at merry hill at 1909)
30213 was the 1750 ex Dudley
Didn't expect anyone to be on time after recent evening traffic out and about. Very punctual then, just the smoke issue to sort on that bus again
Which Buses are used on 29 in walsall I know they have a
branded mpd on there they did have 30492 which I read somewhere
on the forum as off the road
Quote from: Solo1 on June 05, 2015, 09:46:02 PM
Which Buses are used on 29 in walsall I know they have a
branded mpd on there they did have 30492 which I read somewhere
on the forum as off the road
There are 2 branded Darts, 30886 and 30888
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/17934352150/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/17501510913/
Quote from: Solo1 on June 05, 2015, 09:46:02 PM
Which Buses are used on 29 in walsall I know they have a
branded mpd on there they did have 30492 which I read somewhere
on the forum as off the road
Two branded full size darts 30886 and 30888 one of which you've already photo'd:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17157702258/in/dateposted/
John's photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/17501510913/in/album-72157626592924880/
shows another with 30887 to join those two.
30492 has been at Redditch in service.
Other than those two MPDs/solos/a b7rle have all been used
Glad to see the 4H has proper b7rles on there today(3094*)
Driver of 30810 doesn't know 002 very well came in from merry hill to Halesowen Weoley castle bound and went to stand F then had to go round back to E
Today's 226s
20508
20519
20543
30808...
...and no solos whatsoever :-)
There's been at least 4 buses on 142 today
E300 on 202
What do the buses on evening 81's come off?
Royales really seem to be struggling up hills
20868- 142 replaced dart
1330 226 from Wordsley to Merry Hill left 5 early...that's not very good at all!
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 25, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
1330 226 from Wordsley to Merry Hill left 5 early...that's not very good at all!
wheres the centro clowns sorry if it was a nx bus they would be there booking it
3094* on 8:10 to Walsall arrived at 8:05 5 mins early
Apparently a diamond driver died at the wheel on the number 4H in Halesowen bus station on Friday. If so R.I.P
30214 on the 1420, 1620, 1820 226 off merry hill
30002 is on the 1020, 1220, 1420, 1620 & 1820 226 off Merry Hill
30492,30437 on 202
30002 on 226 yesterday
30492 on 226 earlier
@Rhys S 30002 on the 226 was mentioned yesterday along with the workings...
Since when did the 226 deserve full size single deckers?
Exactly my thoughts
@Trident 4194
Quote from: Rhys S on July 11, 2015, 09:56:44 AM
Exactly my thoughts @Trident 4194
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 11, 2015, 08:53:35 AM
Since when did the 226 deserve full size single deckers?
So you'd rather we had horrible slowlo's on there...it's a value route meaning we should have the value branded buses too...like the Urbans and enviros
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 11, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
So you'd rather we had horrible slowlo's on there...it's a value route meaning we should have the value branded buses too...like the Urbans and enviros
I know it. Is value but solos have to be used somewhere
Quote from: Rhys S on July 11, 2015, 10:55:29 AM
I know it. Is value but solos have to be used somewhere
One word...Barnsley!
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 11, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
One word...Barnsley!
You don't want value branded rubbish on the 226. You are welcome to them though. The 226 Is hardly a money making service, and doesn't have many customers so the 226 should stay solos. Maybe put some branded value stickers on the solos for the 226!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 11, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
You don't want value branded rubbish on the 226. You are welcome to them though. The 226 Is hardly a money making service, and doesn't have many customers so the 226 should stay solos. Maybe put some branded value stickers on the solos for the 226!
Oh so I imagined my B7 to be full...yet there was only 1 seat for the 12 people at my stop waiting for it!
I should remember not to imagine things :-)
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 11, 2015, 10:58:48 AM
One word...Barnsley!
Barnsley already has too many SoSlow's
@the trainbasher @Trident 4194 and
@Rhys S I can't imagine you know the patronage/income figures in their entirety.
20541 sounds awful tonight...and 5mph up Brierley Hill Road too!
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 13, 2015, 06:34:39 PM
20541 sounds awful tonight...and 5mph up Brierley Hill Road too!
Arent the solos usually slow
Anyone know what the red diamond dart on the 142 is?
Volvo B7RLE/Eclipse 2 30940 is on the 56 today
Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 30860 is on the 56 today
I haven't seen 30492 recently...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 04, 2015, 07:16:42 PM
I haven't seen 30492 recently...
It was on the 226 on Saturday mate
226 is getting beyond a joke! 0900 226 from Wordsley FTO meaning I'm late for work. Even my breakfast is inedible now because of it!
30492/30825/30941 are all on the 56 today. Are any of these unusual apart from 30492 which has already been put on the unusual section?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
30492/30825/30941 are all on the 56 today. Are any of these unusual apart from 30492 which has already been put on the unusual section?
None of them are really.
That's what I thought as it seems to just be a random bus from the depot
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 06:13:35 PM
That's what I thought as it seems to just be a random bus from the depot
The 56 usually gets Volvo B7RLE and Optare Solo from Long Arce on there journeys on the route.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 29, 2015, 04:26:22 PM
Volvo B7RLE/Eclipse 2 30940 is on the 56 today
@Dylanbusboy45 this contains all the usual allocations to diamonds bus routes it's editable and should help you figure out whether something is noteworthy or not. https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=806DC7EACDC03046!120&ithint=file%2cxlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!AIomqUfjOeC_Hto
Thanks mate. That will be very useful in the future :)
002 branded 30811 on the 301's today
https://flic.kr/p/x3V5pK
Today
30822 on the 4H
30828 on the 002
Quote from: Reece on August 20, 2015, 02:02:56 PM
Today
30822 on the 4H
30828 on the 002
Not really worthy of a mention
Looks like it'll be back to depot for 20601 this afternoon....lots of lovely steam and water coming out of the coolant flap...looks like fun!
Even though its logical, I dont recall seeing anything saying that the Walsall 33a was being renumbered to the 3a, to match Arriva's renumbering of their 33 to 3 until I saw the NWM leaflet today.
Quote from: Westy on September 10, 2015, 09:03:52 PM
Even though its logical, I dont recall seeing anything saying that the Walsall 33a was being renumbered to the 3a, to match Arriva's renumbering of their 33 to 3 until I saw the NWM leaflet today.
Diamond posted it on Twitter!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on September 10, 2015, 09:23:13 PM
Diamond posted it on Twitter!
And on website and Facebook!
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 10, 2015, 09:25:12 PM
And on website and Facebook!
Cant speak for Twitter & the website, but surprised I missed it on Facebook.
Solo 20839 YJ54BUA (which is physically numbered 20893) is currently on the 226 & presumably a transfer in from Long Acre
30822 42A
Quote from: RS on September 16, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
30822 42A
Sure I saw that on 4H this morning at least it was a blue diamond royale
The world best dart 20543 is on the 142
Th worlds worst dart 20519 is on 202
Both running late
I was ESTEEMed to have a Volvo on the 226 today...
Wessex Bus 20010 has transferred to Tividale and is on the 226
002 branded Centro on the 255 tonight, 20:45 departure from Wolverhampton Bus Station.
Does any one know who they guy is on the route 29? who is always next to the driver talking to him all day long? as thanks to this idiot boy, the driver almost smashed into the TWM bus in front on friday as he was talking to the boy and not looking at the road in front. driver had to slam on the breaks and the passengers plus their shopping was thrown all over the bus!
The allocation of 4H yesterday:
30822
30850
3094*
3041*
30704
3085*
I think Long Acre's 20845 is taking residence on Tividales Routes can
@Simon Dunn confirm
Also has the 50 moved to Tividale as 20845 is Tividales I think cause it has been on the 226
Quote from: RS on October 07, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
I think Long Acre's 20845 is taking residence on Tividales Routes can @Simon Dunn confirm
Also has the 50 moved to Tividale as 20845 is Tividales I think cause it has been on the 226
@RS 20845 is a Tividale bus now
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 07, 2015, 08:24:25 PM
@RS 20845 is a Tividale bus now
thanks for confirming
@the trainbasher does that mean tividale has the 50 route
Yes the 50 is now officially at Tividale I was told by Simon last week.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 05:26:39 PM
Does any one know who they guy is on the route 29? who is always next to the driver talking to him all day long? as thanks to this idiot boy, the driver almost smashed into the TWM bus in front on friday as he was talking to the boy and not looking at the road in front. driver had to slam on the breaks and the passengers plus their shopping was thrown all over the bus!
Well lets hope Simon Dunn is reading this, even if he doesnt contribute!
30489 my bus to school and back, I love e300s best single deckers you will find in my opinion, with exception of citaros
The beast has moved to averton noooo!
Diamond drivers up to their old tricks on 226 again. KP51 Sxx running 15 minutes late once again. Hanson carrying no one right behind.
20574 today on 226. 15 minutes late through Kingswinford with Hanson less than 3 minutes behind. I wonder how these Hansons buses manage to fly over the traffic while diamond doesn't (sarcasm)
@Hansons Buses Official
With Tividale now running the 16 it was inevitable to end up with a Cadet on it this morning. Haven't caught one for a long time :-D
20607 - Long Acre - Tividale
@Rhys it moved during September, see Tony's Fleetchanges on main site
Diamond plaxton centro broken down towed by recovery around 4:00 think it was dco or dcx on the 002 romsley road by the care home
A 4H driver eating whilst driving?! Surely not legal?
Quote from: Chris on October 20, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
A 4H driver eating whilst driving?! Surely not legal?
A lot of drivers do it, NX, ARRIVA...
Quote from: Chris on October 20, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
A 4H driver eating whilst driving?! Surely not legal?
Well I do know from having worked at Diamond they have got a dim view when it comes to any of there drivers eating while driving
Quote from: Dom on October 20, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
A lot of drivers do it, NX, ARRIVA...
@Dom its the first time i seen it happen lol it just surprised me thats all
30929-4H must have broken down should have done 15;26 ex Halesowen. Doors were playing up this morning
Wonder what wil operate on 4H on Sunday's? Solos and mpds hopefully
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 22, 2015, 04:00:49 PM
Wonder what wil operate on 4H on Sunday's? Solos and mpds hopefully
No, The current 4 is full size vehicles (Usually B7RLE's with both bodyworks). The 4H will be the same. The 4 is every 15 atm, every other bus will just extend as a 4H
30940 on the 226. Unusual?
Not lately it's not, more and more Volvo's appearing on the 226 I've noticed
Quote from: Metrorider on November 19, 2015, 02:42:11 AM
Not lately it's not, more and more Volvo's appearing on the 226 I've noticed
Volvo's on the 226 is a bit OTT, E300 30492 is found on there as well fairly frequently.
20808 on 142/54
The following Eclipse Volvos are due to be transferred from Diamond NW to Tividale once the 5 ex London Deckers arrive at Diamond NW.
30508: FJ57CYV
30509: FJ57CYT
30813: FJ57CYW
30814: FJ57CYU
30815: FJ57CYS
Also 2 Scanias are coming south to Tividale from Diamond NW but Simon has told me they are not due to be going into service. And their future use has not been chosen yet. But I think they will probably end up going to Wessex?
30541: S600SLT (YN56NTJ)
30542: S400SLT (YN56EZX)
Quote from: Reece on November 27, 2015, 02:26:17 PM
The following Eclipse Volvos are due to be transferred from Diamond NW to Tividale once the 5 ex London Deckers arrive at Diamond NW.
30508: FJ57CYV
30509: FJ57CYT
30813: FJ57CYW
30814: FJ57CYU
30815: FJ57CYS
Also 2 Scanias are coming south to Tividale from Diamond NW but Simon has told me they are not due to be going into service. And their future use has not been chosen yet. But I think they will probably end up going to Wessex?
30541: S600SLT (YN56NTJ)
30542: S400SLT (YN56EZX)
30509, 30813 & 30815 have been back at Tividale for a few weeks now.
30813 at Preston (31st Oct) before heading South:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/22650421511/in/dateposted/
de-branded 30815 here (19th Nov):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130213023@N08/22732587158/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Chris on October 20, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
A 4H driver eating whilst driving?! Surely not legal?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9159787/Bus-driver-sacked-for-eating-a-grape.html
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 27, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9159787/Bus-driver-sacked-for-eating-a-grape.html
Oh dear, seems a bit too far to sack the driver for that reason...
What about drinking water in the driver's cab? Is that sackable for any bus company?
30455 has been withdrawn so I have been told shame really as this went like a train
Quote from: Will on November 27, 2015, 11:03:51 PM
30455 has been withdrawn so I have been told shame really as this went like a train
That's why I asked last week. The loss of a Dart is like water off a ducks back usually. But I thought this one was a beast.
142 is actually very reliable today. Well done!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 28, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
142 is actually very reliable today. Well done!
Yes I caught one from Halesowen today and someone on board mentioned it was rare
Wasn't you by any chance was it?
Quote from: Kevin on November 28, 2015, 06:38:05 PM
Yes I caught one from Halesowen today and someone on board mentioned it was rare
Wasn't you by any chance was it?
No, but I had 20539 at 13:52 ex Halesowen for Stourbridge
Completely unbranded Primo out on the 81 today. Just plain white with a orange flashing cone on top.
Quote from: WN on December 13, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Completely unbranded Primo out on the 81 today. Just plain white with a orange flashing cone on top.
that BU08ADZ see photolink site for pic
30862 is mega fast
Is there a legal amount of time off bus driving?for example shifts?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 23, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Is there a legal amount of time off bus driving?for example shifts?
https://www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/overview
30822 is on the 71 today.
What is the solo with out diamond logo
seen in wednesbury
Quote from: Solo1 on December 31, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
What is the solo with out diamond logo
seen in wednesbury
Do you mean 20010 (YJ56 AUA) [see here: https://flic.kr/p/zyRPUp]
What's the best service to Find 30509 FJ57CYT if any sees it
FJ57s seemed to mostly be on 16/50 yesterday
30408 is back!!!!!
30639 -4h Monday
20536 - 4h earlier but broke down
Quote from: Will on January 07, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
Why had it been elsewhere?..
I think so maybe getting repairs done.
20132 Tividale - sold
Not Sure whether the information is wrong about 20132 but it can't be sold if i seen it today sitting in West Bromwich Bus Station working the 54A Service to Worlds End ? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-\
Photo with the post
https://flic.kr/p/CZ2o55
Seen 20132 in use on the 282
Not sure but think there's a Streetlite on 50 tonight seen back end of it 17.15 ish ex city any one if it was or was it a primo
Any vehicles that are long term off unfit lately from this depot? their is 3 branded Darts for the 29 30886 30887 30888 yet some days only 1 or none of these are eon the route, driver says they are unfit. Apparently quite a long que of unfit vehicles at this depot. I mean their is loads of old buses on their fleet could do with replacing. Ive read that they are under pressure about services being unreliable etc some councils what their license revoked
Quote from: Tomf1993 on January 17, 2016, 06:56:43 PM
Any vehicles that are long term off unfit lately from this depot? their is 3 branded Darts for the 29 30886 30887 30888 yet some days only 1 or none of these are eon the route, driver says they are unfit. Apparently quite a long que of unfit vehicles at this depot. I mean their is loads of old buses on their fleet could do with replacing. Ive read that they are under pressure about services being unreliable etc some councils what their license revoked
2 of the 29 branded ones were out yesterday
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2016, 07:28:40 PM
2 of the 29 branded ones were out yesterday
If they do stray i tend to find them on the 42/43
They need new buses, a whole shed load of buses or atleast rent some from Dawsons... to enable them to get enough buses needed.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on January 17, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
They need new buses, a whole shed load of buses or atleast rent some from Dawsons... to enable them to get enough buses needed.
??
Is route 29 linked up schedule wise with any other routes? as it does seem like it from the timetable?
Quote from: Tomf1993 on January 17, 2016, 09:07:50 PM
Is route 29 linked up schedule wise with any other routes? as it does seem like it from the timetable?
No the 29 does not interwork with anything at any point.
E300 now mainly allocated to 4H
To school on 4H I had:30834(301 branded) running in convoy with 30492
30492 was my bus home
29077 (Streetlite) on the 16 this morning.
I can just about accept slow acceleration on buses these days, because all newer buses seem to be like that.
But my god is this thing crap at climbing hills.... Straight up could have walked faster up Hamstead Hill than it this morning
4H allocation today:
30491
30489
30408
30002
30813
3082*
A tividale driver Saturday said" this is a diamond bus, nothing works properly" in relation to faulty doors made me laugh
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
A tividale driver Saturday said" this is a diamond bus, nothing works properly" in relation to faulty doors made me laugh
That driver has good humour mindshew joking aside he has a point
Saw a brand new 65 'reg which streetlite heading to tivadale garage this morning it had diamond on the display in oldbury before 10am
Hopefully any new Streetlites are geared up to tackle hills.... Because, you know, the Black Country is quite hilly and all
Quote from: Kevin on January 26, 2016, 08:18:31 PM
Hopefully any new Streetlites are geared up to tackle hills.... Because, you know, the Black Country is quite hilly and all
Tiviadle aren't getting any Steerlites? Maybe Atherton's or, Redditch's?
Quote from: Reece on January 22, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
Rotala 20 New DF Streetlites
Updated with new information with thanks to Simon Dunn...
Diamond NW > x2 (The first one is due to be delivered any day now.)
Diamond WM (Redditch) > x8
Preston Bus > x6
Diamond WM (Unallocated) > x4
Maybe the 4 unallocated WM ones?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 26, 2016, 08:25:13 PM
Maybe the 4 unallocated WM ones?
The 2 for Atherton are due first along with one for RH during Jan, the other 7 coming for RH will arrive in Feb, these will be Euro 5 cummins engined examples. The other 10 will be Euro 6 and follow later
The 226 appears to have changed to majority full size bus allocation, there was a 13 plate B7RLE & 30492 on there yesterday, this morning 30490 & 30850, seems a bit OTT for passenger numbers.
All 3 branded 29 Darts on the 29 today, one kept cutting out though, driver said, that is how it is at Diamond lol 3 buses run on the 29 throughout the day, does any other buses on this route in AM peak perhaps?
Only 2 buses seem to be running on the 29 today big gap in between, meant to be 3 buses
Are the Streetlites out today that are on loan from redditch
Quote from: Solo1 on January 30, 2016, 12:35:50 PM
Are the Streetlites out today
There are no Streetlites due for Tividale at present
Quote from: Winston on January 30, 2016, 12:42:47 PM
There are no Streetlites due for Tividale at present
No he means the ones on loan from Redditch
Quote from: Will on January 30, 2016, 12:43:35 PM
No he means the ones on loan from Redditch
I think one was back at redditch this morning.
Why are there 2 unbranded buses everyday on 002?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 30, 2016, 06:58:06 PM
Why are there 2 unbranded buses everyday on 002?
Because 6 are 002 branded & the pvr is 7
2 Streetlites on consecutive 16s atm
BP60 XCW out today on the 25 Fox & Goose to Erdington service
So apparently anything goes on the 16 these days....
A Primo this morning... You know, on a route that's supposed to be competing against nice shiny newly repainted deckers
Quote from: Kevin on February 02, 2016, 07:17:22 AM
So apparently anything goes on the 16 these days....
A Primo this morning... You know, on a route that's supposed to be competing against nice shiny newly repainted deckers
Not quite anything, anything substituting on the 16 & 50 needs to be min Euro 4 to comply with SQPS rules
Quote from: Winston on February 02, 2016, 08:55:51 AM
Not quite anything, anything substituting on the 16 & 50 needs to be min Euro 4 to comply with SQPS rules
The four buses I have just seen in City are the Primo, a StreetLite, a Centro & an Eclipse. Any more variety on there?
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2016, 09:02:15 AM
The four buses I have just seen in City are the Primo, a StreetLite, a Centro & an Eclipse. Any more variety on there?
There's no need for that, as more & more E300's & B7RLE's are appearing on the 226 where the additional capacity isn't required.
Tividale now has 47 x Volvo B7RLE's & 5 x E300's, the 002, 4/4H, 16, 50 & 301/2 should be priority for full size buses over anything else
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2016, 09:02:15 AM
The four buses I have just seen in City are the Primo, a StreetLite, a Centro & an Eclipse. Any more variety on there?
There's a Solo as well
Quote from: Kevin on February 02, 2016, 07:17:22 AM
So apparently anything goes on the 16 these days....
A Primo this morning... You know, on a route that's supposed to be competing against nice shiny newly repainted deckers
At one time one of the buses on the 647 (usually a Primo or Solo) did an am peak journey on the 16, could have ben that bus
This bus does 29 am peak MF I think, as Ive found tickets on the buses for this route dated the same day and am times, and more then 3 buses run the 29 am peak.
Diamond 226 15 minutes late out of Kingswinford 1330 towards dudley. Why you ask? No traffic, just 20601 too slow struggling to tackle any gradient , and blowing fumes behind it. Same old same.
I`ve just seen a 226 on time at 15.30 at Kingswinford which is more of a miracle!
Quote from: bususer12 on February 11, 2016, 01:36:50 PM
Diamond 226 15 minutes late out of Kingswinford 1330 towards dudley. Why you ask? No traffic, just 20601 too slow struggling to tackle any gradient , and blowing fumes behind it. Same old same.
I told Simon about this bus and other buses, yet, nothing gets sorted at Diamond
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 11, 2016, 04:51:43 PM
I told Simon about this bus and other buses, yet, nothing gets sorted at Diamond
There's nothing majorly wrong with them😎
Those Diamond buses smoke more than these scum bag druggy's smoking weed around here..
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 11, 2016, 07:15:42 PM
Those Diamond buses smoke more than these scum bag druggy's smoking weed around here..
The buses I use are of a very high standard
Sightly off topic but came across this a few months back: http://youtu.be/F4KOhr2Oe50 (30811, WX58 FSA)
what buses are normally on 25 in Erdington & 600
30815- best bus in diamond fleet. These ex Acherton busses are beasts
Quote from: Solo1 on February 12, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
what buses are normally on 25 in Erdington & 600
25 - Plaxton Primo
Quote from: Solo1 on February 12, 2016, 03:48:45 PM
what buses are normally on 25 in Erdington & 600
600 usually a dart
Best service to find the hired redditch .Streetlites on Saturday
Quote from: Kevin on February 12, 2016, 06:12:43 PM
600 usually a dart
Or more recently a mixture of darts, solos and primos
Diamond has a Streetlite out on 23 service
in bilston 11 reg one
142 going to every 40mins to improve reliability
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/21February.aspx
Quote from: Chris on February 14, 2016, 03:52:25 PM
142 going to every 40mins to improve reliability
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/21February.aspx
Why the hell they do that, the reliability is good
No happy with Diamond at all, waiting at Blackenall Church for the 1709 29, it comes in at 1707, due out 1709 we dont leave till 1711, now after I done my Tesco shopping walk down to Walsall Bus Stn , 1755 29 , a Dart SLF and a TWM bus come down the road but dont come in the stn they shoot off down the street, their is a optare solo on the stand down the street I say to the Centro controller their what going on with the 1755 29, she says no idea one just went down their, I say to her the 1755 one is the solo on the stand down the road I know this as its that bus that does the 1755 trip, she goes their gets him to move, she comes back to say his coming, he pulls in at 1806 the time the next bus is due out, he says to her the centro controller he had permission for a break lol
Disgraceful. she kept saying sorry to us the passengers, she should not be sorry, its the bloody driver who should be sorry, she said their is enough trouble as it is, they be going sooner or later....
30639-142 made light work of muck lows hill
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 16, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
No happy with Diamond at all, waiting at Blackenall Church for the 1709 29, it comes in at 1707, due out 1709 we dont leave till 1711, now after I done my Tesco shopping walk down to Walsall Bus Stn , 1755 29 , a Dart SLF and a TWM bus come down the road but dont come in the stn they shoot off down the street, their is a optare solo on the stand down the street I say to the Centro controller their what going on with the 1755 29, she says no idea one just went down their, I say to her the 1755 one is the solo on the stand down the road I know this as its that bus that does the 1755 trip, she goes their gets him to move, she comes back to say his coming, he pulls in at 1806 the time the next bus is due out, he says to her the centro controller he had permission for a break lol
Disgraceful. she kept saying sorry to us the passengers, she should not be sorry, its the bloody driver who should be sorry, she said their is enough trouble as it is, they be going sooner or later....
Drivers have had to have a break. It's illegal if failing to do so
Excuse me, the driver had a break earlier on in the day as per his duty card. and as the Centro controller said.
Besides when that driver showed up, I know him, he always arrives and never leaves on time.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 16, 2016, 06:35:59 PM
No happy with Diamond at all, waiting at Blackenall Church for the 1709 29, it comes in at 1707, due out 1709 we dont leave till 1711, now after I done my Tesco shopping walk down to Walsall Bus Stn , 1755 29 , a Dart SLF and a TWM bus come down the road but dont come in the stn they shoot off down the street, their is a optare solo on the stand down the street I say to the Centro controller their what going on with the 1755 29, she says no idea one just went down their, I say to her the 1755 one is the solo on the stand down the road I know this as its that bus that does the 1755 trip, she goes their gets him to move, she comes back to say his coming, he pulls in at 1806 the time the next bus is due out, he says to her the centro controller he had permission for a break lol
Disgraceful. she kept saying sorry to us the passengers, she should not be sorry, its the bloody driver who should be sorry, she said their is enough trouble as it is, they be going sooner or later....
For goodness sake - the buses ran didn't they? The first bus was 2 minutes late and the second one 11 minutes late. Those sort of delays happen with every bus company up and down the country, unfair to pick Diamond out in this case I'd say.
This happens day after day after day, enough is enough, Diamond need to go and will be going. they anit like by Centro controllers either
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 18, 2016, 02:08:12 PM
This happens day after day after day, enough is enough, Diamond need to go and will be going. they anit like by Centro controllers either
I doubt you can make diamond disappear. Your accusations are ridiculous
Im not making them disappear, their own poor levels of service etc are doing it for them selves mate.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 18, 2016, 02:49:19 PM
Im not making them disappear, their own poor levels of service etc are doing it for them selves mate.
I use diamond every single day, never had a problem. I know Redditch operations are a mess, but tividale are absolutely fine
I thought the same thing, but no any more.
The 142 and 54 never actually inter worked?
Also 192 is swapping with 142 stand in Halesowen, good luck getting a man in there without its back end sticking out... Going to be very tight
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 20, 2016, 11:38:20 AM
The 142 and 54 never actually inter worked?
Also 192 is swapping with 142 stand in Halesowen, good luck getting a man in there without its back end sticking out... Going to be very tight
002 B7RLE's are longer and manage just fine!
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 20, 2016, 12:06:53 PM
002 B7RLE's are longer and manage just fine!
That's not as tight angle, 192 will have to do complete swing, 002 doesn't come from same direction as 192 will.
Any reason why a Black Diamond Long Dart would decide to stop in the slow lane of the BCR with hazards on, wait for a B7Lre to pass it, then continue on its merry way?
I thought it had broken down initially.
Quote from: Westy on February 25, 2016, 08:08:45 PM
Any reason why a Black Diamond Long Dart would decide to stop in the slow lane of the BCR with hazards on, wait for a B7Lre to pass it, then continue on its merry way?
I thought it had broken down initially.
Maybe the driver didn't know the way.
Quote from: Westy on February 25, 2016, 08:08:45 PM
Any reason why a Black Diamond Long Dart would decide to stop in the slow lane of the BCR with hazards on, wait for a B7Lre to pass it, then continue on its merry way?
I thought it had broken down initially.
I didn't think they had any long Black Diamond Darts left the only one I think it could be is 30439 (W567JVV)
Quote from: Will on February 25, 2016, 09:50:02 PM
I didn't think they had any long Black Diamond Darts left the only one I think it could be is 30439 (W567JVV)
20849
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 25, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
20849
Oh damn! I can't believe I forgot about that thing ::)
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 25, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
20849
Please don't mention that bus! I remember several excruciating journeys on that when it was at Kidderminster. Broke down when I was on it twice! Seemed to struggle moving up its gears a great deal.
Quote from: StourportSam on February 25, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
Please don't mention that bus! I remember several excruciating journeys on that when it was at Kidderminster. Broke down when I was on it twice! Seemed to struggle moving up its gears a great deal.
Sam, I second your comments completely! I know exactly what you mean none of the drivers at Kiddy liked it
Quote from: StourportSam on February 25, 2016, 10:59:28 PM
Please don't mention that bus! I remember several excruciating journeys on that when it was at Kidderminster. Broke down when I was on it twice! Seemed to struggle moving up its gears a great deal.
Oh yeah the infamous RYH it took a whole hour to do the 192 from Kiddy to Halesowen on that thing because it was so slow!! It's only meant to take 45 mins to get to Halesowen.
Quote from: Reece on February 25, 2016, 11:57:45 PM
Oh yeah the infamous RYH it took a whole hour to do the 192 from Kiddy to Halesowen on that thing because it was so slow!! It's only meant to take 45 mins to get to Halesowen.
Don't exaggerate mate! ^
Not pleased with woman driver of 30410 this morning!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 11, 2016, 06:53:17 PM
Not pleased with woman driver of 30410 this morning!
Why?
Quote from: WN on March 11, 2016, 10:42:56 PM
Why?
10 minutes late then decides to have a fag, leaving me late for school
Yesterday morning, there was a long Solo parked up/broken down on the BCR.
If he had broken down, obviously not much he can do about that, but if he had just decided to park there, it was a stupid place to park!
30492 was on the 401E earlier. Think this is noteworthy isn't it?
Solo 20913 was on the 647. Leaving Harborne Hgh Street caked in black smoke when pulling away
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 25, 2016, 07:11:14 PM
30492 was on the 401E earlier. Think this is noteworthy isn't it?
Diamond don't really have unusual workings as such, every bus is on pretty much any route
Got a question but don't want to start a new topic so will ask it here.
Saw Diamond bus leave Stourbridge Bus Station earlier displaying SW = 32 and SH = 17 on its rear display, anybody know what this means?
It's part of the sizing information for the destination displays
30882 or 30885 on 226
@Trident 4194 what time off Merry Hill is it?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 26, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
@Trident 4194 what time off Merry Hill is it?
It was like 13:15 from merry hill
@the trainbasher There disgusting inside btw
30879 was on the 4H earlier today. Not sure if this is a loan or a transfer
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 29, 2016, 07:08:06 PM
30879 was on the 4H earlier today. Not sure if this is a loan or a transfer
Hopefully transfer
Apparently some more Urbans are to be drafted in for the 16 from Wessex and Redditch soon to replace some of the rag tag allocations on it.
What service are the new street lites at tividale going to be found on & when will they enter service
Quote from: Solo1 on April 03, 2016, 10:01:11 PM
What service are the new street lites at tividale going to be found on & when will they enter service
They haven't even been delivered yet, Preston's 6 are first
Quote from: Winston on April 03, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
They haven't even been delivered yet, Preston's 6 are first
I was told one of Tividales has been delivered...
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 04, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
I was told one of Tividales has been delivered...
The Tividale & Preston ones must being built together then, the 1st Preston one hasn't arrived at Heysham as yet. If that's the case, the Tividale one has snuck in though the docks as well without being spotted.
What buses used on 16?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2016, 09:58:14 AM
What buses used on 16?
Anything apart from double deck
@RS - Edit your posts so they quote properly ( [/quote] ) otherwise they will just be deleted in future, Winston
Quote from: RS on April 04, 2016, 09:59:05 AM
Anything apart from double deck
Which is because Tividale don't have any double deckers.
Darts and Optare Solo rarely get used on it now as well
Quote from: 2206 on April 04, 2016, 10:01:15 AM
Which is because Tividale don't have any double deckers.
Any chance of cadets?
A good a chance as any as anything is thrown on there literally
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2016, 10:01:58 AM
Any chance of cadets?
Highly unlikely, as min Euro 4 need to operate the 16 & 50
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2016, 09:58:14 AM
What buses used on 16?
Mostly Volvo B7RLE. Quite rare for anything else to be on the 16 anymore
Quote from: John on April 04, 2016, 10:16:03 AM
Mostly Volvo B7RLE. Quite rare for anything else to be on the 16 anymore
Actually that's wrong because last September 30202 (V463 TVV) was on loan to Tividale from Kiddy and it was being used on the 50 (see this link: https://flic.kr/p/y1CArv) I believe it was used on the 002, 4H and 301/02 as well
Quote from: Will on April 04, 2016, 11:02:48 AM
Actually that's wrong because last September 30202 (V463 TVV) was on loan to Tividale from Kiddy and it was being used on the 50 (see this link: https://flic.kr/p/y1CArv) I believe it was used on the 002, 4H and 301/02 as well
That was September. 7 months ago. It correct, the 16 is mostly B7RLE now.
From January 2016 they all had to be Euro 4.
Quote from: John on April 04, 2016, 10:16:03 AM
Mostly Volvo B7RLE. Quite rare for anything else to be on the 16 anymore
Morning peaks usually Solos, Promos and Streetlites as well
Quote from: Kevin on April 04, 2016, 12:26:57 PM
Morning peaks usually Solos, Promos and Streetlites as well
Are those Streetlites still on loan from Redditch?
@Kevin Which ones are at Tividale?
30509 just seen in Brum on (presumably) the 16, but display just read "VOR" no temporary paper in window or anything
Quote from: 2206 on April 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
Are those Streetlites still on loan from Redditch?
@Kevin
Which ones are at Tividale?
Don't know fleetnumbers man sorry, definitely saw one last week, didn't today but didn't go that way to work this morning
Quote from: Kevin on April 04, 2016, 12:43:05 PM
Don't know fleetnumbers man sorry, definitely saw one last week, didn't today but didn't go that way to work this morning
Ok.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 04, 2016, 01:24:31 PM
Believe they are now permanent
They haven't appeared on the list of Rotala March transfers
20544-4H stopped at incorrect stand left with only couple people on who must have been on bus before Halesowen. This is not acceptable tbf.
Dose anyone know what way the 72 will be diverted tonight. Or if they'll use the same route as NX?
Quote from: Winston on April 04, 2016, 01:33:57 AM
The Tividale & Preston ones must being built together then, the 1st Preston one hasn't arrived at Heysham as yet. If that's the case, the Tividale one has snuck in though the docks as well without being spotted.
At least one of Tividale's is here, there's a photo on Facebook of it
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2016, 07:04:49 PM
At least one of Tividale's is here, there's a photo on Facebook of it
Looking at the fleetnumbers, Tividale's were the last four of the batch of 10, but their delivery appears to have been brought forward
What's the odds of them not getting allocated to the 226?
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 04, 2016, 09:43:31 PM
What's the odds of them not getting allocated to the 226?
The 226 couldn't support the new vehicles
@Tony, those pictures you've seen on Facebook of the Streetlites are the ones that are in Redditch unless you've seen different ones?
Some people may have caught a glimpse of one of the new streetlites for Tividale as it was taken on a photoshoot and was later parked up in West Bromwich Bus Station for a short while.
Quote from: Ash on April 04, 2016, 10:43:39 PM
Some people may have caught a glimpse of one of the new streetlites for Tividale as it was taken on a photoshoot and was later parked up in West Bromwich Bus Station.
How many have been delivered? I thought Preston were originally having theirs first.
Quote from: Winston on April 04, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
How many have been delivered? I thought Preston were originally having theirs first.
The ones that are on the latest April fleet list changes for Rotala.
Quote from: Ash on April 04, 2016, 11:05:43 PM
The ones that are on the latest April fleet list changes for Rotala.
The fleetchanges are for March, the previous batch of 65 plate Streetlites were all showing on the Feb fleet changes (bar 32214), yet the last four at Redditch have only recently been delivered & entered service & Atherton only received it's allover blue example mid last week
I wouldn't mind them on 16/50?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2016, 07:47:04 AM
I wouldn't mind them on 16/50?
I would. As would people that use the route.
Streetlite + Hill (of which there are many on the 16) = painful
Quote from: Kevin on April 05, 2016, 07:49:46 AM
I would. As would people that use the route.
Streetlite + Hill (of which there are many on the 16) = painful
Hehe
@Kevin you have any idea what fleet number buses are on 16 today. Hoping no ex Redditch crap
Quote from: Will on April 04, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
@Tony, those pictures you've seen on Facebook of the Streetlites are the ones that are in Redditch unless you've seen different ones?
Come on.. I know better than that. One of the staff at Tividale has posted a photo of a 16 plate one on his timeline under the words New toy
I find sitting on the ex Redditch "red" urbans very therapeutic
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 05, 2016, 09:07:06 AM
I find sitting on the ex Redditch "red" urbans very therapeutic
What red Urbans? There's only 30862 and 30861. Them buses really do struggle up hills, don't know what the people of Redditch have done to them
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2016, 09:09:48 AM
What red Urbans?
The two that have been at Tividale for ages..... 30861/2 ???
16 plate Streetlite( I think) on 16 service. I only caught a glimpse but fleet no was something like 32**8.
Quote from: Winston on April 04, 2016, 11:20:59 PM
The fleetchanges are for March, the previous batch of 65 plate Streetlites were all showing on the Feb fleet changes (bar 32214), yet the last four at Redditch have only recently been delivered & entered service & Atherton only received it's allover blue example mid last week
Two have arrived at Tividale 32307/32308.
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2016, 06:15:33 PM
Two have arrived at Tividale 32307/32308.
Cheers
@Ash I assume Preston's 6 will be numbered 32301-6
32308 Is on the 4H today noted in Blackheath.
Bet the Streetlites were fun attempting that hill up to Blackheath
Quote from: Kevin on April 06, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
Bet the Streetlites were fun attempting that hill up to Blackheath
They may be alright, as the are powered by Euro 6 Daimler engines as opposed to Cummins and sound more robust (similar to NXWM's Streetdeck)
Quote from: Kevin on April 06, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
Bet the Streetlites were fun attempting that hill up to Blackheath
You mean Gorsty Hill Road?
32307 was out in Brum yesterday afternoon on the 16. I noted it by New Street Station as I checked out the coaches on the rail replacement services. 8)
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on April 06, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
32307 was out in Brum yesterday afternoon on the 16. I noted it by New Street Station as I checked out the coaches on the rail replacement services. 8)
and is out on the 4 this morning
20976 appears to be at Tividale, just seen it in Walsall Bus Station.
Regs for 32307/08 are:
32307 SK16 GXH
32308 SK16 GXJ
Both are on the 4H.
Quote from: Alex on April 09, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
32307 SK16 GXH
32308 SK16 GXJ
Both are on the 4H.
A couple of pictures + an interior shot are on Diamond's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/diamondbuses/photos/pcb.10154833764197178/10154833763197178/?type=3&theater
One of the new Streetlites was on the evening 81 (Wolverhampton-Merry Hill) last week.
32307 ?
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2016, 05:24:31 PM
A couple of pictures + an interior shot are on Diamond's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/diamondbuses/photos/pcb.10154833764197178/10154833763197178/?type=3&theater
So they are being used on 4? 4H had one on there today along with
30491
30815
29 branded dart
30929
3082*
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 12, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
So they are being used on 4? 4H had one on there today along with
30491
30815
29 branded dart
30929
3082*
They would be on the 4H (The Streetlites). That is what they are meant for (4/4H). There has been all sorts on the 4/H in the past few weeks. Any full size bus they can get their hands on it seems. Over several days last week (not going to go into fleetnumbers), there were Standard Centro's, Royale Spec Centro's, All batches of the Eclipse bodied B7RLE's, The East Lancs Esteem bodied B7RLE, the 3049* E300's, the 10 plate E300, the 57 plate E200 and Streetlites)
I believe 32310 was out on the road this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2016, 06:41:58 PM
They would be on the 4H. That is what they are meant for.
Oh what I was saying was not variety
Quote from: Ash on April 12, 2016, 06:43:18 PM
I believe 32310 was out on the road this afternoon.
Are there potentially more due later this year?
The wording of the Facebook suggests they are part of a major investment, or would this be also referring to the recent Redditch examples?
Extract from Diamond Bus Facebook announcment:
The first of four brand new Streetlites, arrived earlier this week
as part of a major investment in new buses from Diamond Bus
2 Streetlites on 40 1 on 4 service not seen 32309 anyone know ifs it out miss type thanksc for pointing it out shows right fleet no now
Quote from: Solo1 on April 16, 2016, 02:20:53 PM
2 Streetlites on 40 1 on 4 service not seen 323209 anyone know ifs it out
I think 323209 has been on the Redditch to Lichfield line today ;)
On a serious note, only two I saw were 08/10
Quote from: jc on April 16, 2016, 08:04:43 PM
I think 323209 has been on the Redditch to Lichfield line today ;)
On a serious not, only two I saw were 08/10
Yeah I think you've posted this on the wrong thread....
One of the 16 Plate Streetlites worked the 20:45 255 from Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Will on April 16, 2016, 08:14:03 PM
Yeah I think you've posted this on the wrong thread....
Yeah i think if you read the previous posts you would understand why it was posted here and the fact it was posted as a joke!
The serious bit was seeing 32308 and 32310 in West Brom.
SN10CDK enviro 200 on rt302 left Walsall 19:00 must be a transfer or a loan it's still down as redditch bus
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 22, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
SN10CDK enviro 200 on rt302 left Walsall 19:00 must be a transfer or a loan it's still down as redditch bus
Been here for a few weeks now
30878 also now at Tividale.
They need 2 buses for 68a/c service
Quote from: Solo1 on April 22, 2016, 09:50:50 PM
They need 2 buses for 68a/service
1, the timetable is the same as the current NXWM timetable.
Quote from: Ash on April 22, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
30878 also now at Tividale.
Its on the 16 today and was behind NXWMs 4291 at Hockley going towards the City Centre at 14:15 today.
20913 is now repainted allover blue, saw it on the 80 in Bilston earlier
Tividales newer shape Enviro 300s (30878/9) are together again, on the 50 today one behind the other at Maypole at 17:15
A streetlite was I do believe on either an 81 or 243 tonight was parked up in Merry Hill at 22.05
Only Diamond
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/regional/14521168.Runaway_bus_smashes_into_bus_stop_and_garden_fence_in_Wordsley_drama/
Quote from: Jon on May 27, 2016, 02:22:11 PM
Only Diamond
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/regional/14521168.Runaway_bus_smashes_into_bus_stop_and_garden_fence_in_Wordsley_drama/
it's not like a PN driver didn't go in to a house on Bunns Lane whilst doing the 205 now is it :)
Has anybody tried the 16W yet? Any good? Decent loadings?
Quote from: Dom on May 31, 2016, 02:02:09 PM
Has anybody tried the 16W yet? Any good? Decent loadings?
I'm on it now. Almost empty. Same with the one i saw going the other way.
Quote from: Nathan on May 31, 2016, 02:18:24 PM
I'm on it now. Almost empty. Same with the one i saw going the other way.
It is only the first day tbf
Where the 16w go then
Quote from: Winston on May 31, 2016, 02:21:06 PM
It is only the first day tbf
I know. Someone asked what the loadings seemed like. Wasn't saying that as a negative comment. I think it may pick up as more and more people become aware of the service. It seems to be well advertised on Diamond vehicles.
Quote from: Nathan on May 31, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
I know. Someone asked what the loadings seemed like. Wasn't saying that as a negative comment. I think it may pick up as more and more people become aware of the service. It seems to be well advertised on Diamond vehicles.
I caught a 301 last week & the leaflets were on there.
Have they put any leaflets in Sandwell Hospital?
30125 has just passed me on Wolverhampton Road not in service. I suspect it could be on the 16 or the 50.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 05, 2016, 08:22:13 AM
30125 has just passed me on Wolverhampton Road not in service. I suspect it could be on the 16 or the 50.
It is on the 002
Has anyone got the timings for 30125
Quote from: Nathan on May 31, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
I know. Someone asked what the loadings seemed like. Wasn't saying that as a negative comment. I think it may pick up as more and more people become aware of the service. It seems to be well advertised on Diamond vehicles.
I'm currently on 30814 and the loading is doing better today than last time. 5 people still onboard after passing Green Lane with a few more getting on after including on Newton Road. A bit better than just me last time.
Are all royale so being repainted now then? 30827 on 4 looking good
20511 repainted into blue looking good- shame the engine isnt
They have inspectors???
Looks like work might be starting on demolishing the current disused buildings on John St to make way for the new Tividale depot, as there was a JCB working there today
20536 was on the 25 (Ward End - Erdington) today.
Primo-226
UID Solo doing a 5 point turn in the middle of Powis Avenue because he took a wrong turn on the 42... Suppose It's a good thing it was only a Solo not a full sized single
Quote from: Kevin on July 30, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
UID Solo doing a 5 point turn in the middle of Powis Avenue because he took a wrong turn on the 42... Suppose It's a good thing it was only a Solo not a full sized single
Thats the area that was recently on the news, with the amount of buses going down a street, wasnt it?
Quote from: Westy on July 30, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
Thats the area that was recently on the news, with the amount of buses going down a street, wasnt it?
Correct. Be fair 12 buses an hour down those streets is just ridiculous
30162 seen in Coventry on the X31 today
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 11, 2016, 03:43:41 PM
30162 seen in Coventry on the X31 today
It's a Redditch allocated Streetlite & the X31 is a Redditch operated route
30162 seems to be the regular bus on the Coventry Routes, seen it on there the last 3 times I was in Coventry
Quote from: Winston on August 11, 2016, 03:51:06 PM
It's a Redditch allocated Streetlite & the X31 is a Redditch operated route
Sorry, I've put this in tbe wrong thread then? Should it be moved to the Redditch depot?
All plaxton b7 broke
@Trident 4194 - your post doesn't make sense, Winston
Tividale's latest addition 20731 FX04WFT Opatre Solo ex Stagecoach Lincoln is currently working the 226 repainted in fleet livery
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
Tividale's latest addition 20731 FX04WFT Opatre Solo ex Stagecoach Lincoln is currently working the 226 repainted in fleet livery
photo of this of photo link site
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
Tividale's latest addition 20731 FX04WFT Opatre Solo ex Stagecoach Lincoln is currently working the 226 repainted in fleet livery
I am guessing this has been converted back to running on diesel again from its time in Lincoln when it was gas powered?
Quote from: Cheese on August 25, 2016, 07:58:50 PM
I am guessing this has been converted back to running on diesel again from its time in Lincoln when it was gas powered?
I believe they were covered back to deisel whilst still at Stagecoach, this one had got no roof mounted tanks. I believe Reading Buses have also bought a number of these
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
Tividale's latest addition 20731 FX04WFT Opatre Solo ex Stagecoach Lincoln is currently working the 226 repainted in fleet livery
Its on the 68A/C in Perry Barr today
Streetlite-002
Diamond's 226 seems to have a majority / full allocation of B7RLE's today, 30000, 30827 & a value branded seen so far
20818-142 one of the best solos travelled on
32307 on the 002.
30825 has just entered Dudley bus station showing 243 Dudley. Presumably on the 226 and the driver put in the wrong destination.
4H has good allocation today:
30488
30489
30882
30813
@Dom @karl724223 diamond don't spend 7 minutes on unloading bay considering that they don't have that long in merry hill
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 09, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
@Dom @karl724223 diamond don't spend 7 minutes on unloading bay considering that they don't have that long in merry hill
Yes they really do, I saw it for myself the other day, bus 30881.
30828 has become hybrid
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 09, 2016, 09:15:43 PM
30828 has become hybrid
Please enlighten us all how 30828 has become hybrid.
Anyone catch the 301 today & got that awful sounding single decker?
(In fact, unless there is more than one similarly sounding single decker, I saw the vehicle twice, once coming up the Black Country Route out of service & on the 301 later!)
Quote from: Westy on September 09, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
Anyone catch the 301 today & got that awful sounding single decker?
(In fact, unless there is more than one similarly sounding single decker, I saw the vehicle twice, once coming up the Black Country Route out of service & on the 301 later!)
Could you be more specific?
@Westy Doesn't that describe 85% of the Diamond WM fleet
It was making a hissing noise!
Quote from: Winston on September 09, 2016, 09:34:38 PM
Please enlighten us all how 30828 has become hybrid.
Breaks down when stationary
30855-002 and another two unbranded vehicles (royale and centro)
142 Stourbridge to Halesowen being extended to QE hospital from 30/10/16 and being returned to 30 minute frequency.
142 timetable on nwm
20731 on 202 was on time for a change, probably due to the acceleration of that thing
I don't think they want the 202 to continue, every time I see a solo on 202 where unloading bays are at 20-30 past despite meant to be leaving at 17 past hour?
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2016/10/19/anger-as-diamond-bus-route-serving-merry-hill-is-scrapped/
Quote from: Winston on October 19, 2016, 02:45:33 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2016/10/19/anger-as-diamond-bus-route-serving-merry-hill-is-scrapped/
As they say, use it or lose it. Also, the articles says it runs hourly. I'm pretty sure it is two hourly.
they could run 1 trip each way instead of hourly one a say 10 & 1 back about 2or 3 so they have a service
Quote from: Nathan on October 19, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
As they say, use it or lose it. Also, the articles says it runs hourly. I'm pretty sure it is two hourly.
Two trips a day each way.
Two return trips from merry Hill to Gornal and one return trip from quarry bank to Gornal
An E300 on 267!
Quote from: Chris on November 03, 2016, 10:15:28 AM
An E300 on 267!
@Chris the 267 is operated from Kidderminster depot
Quote from: Winston on November 03, 2016, 10:16:12 AM
@Chris the 267 is operated from Kidderminster depot
Really? Would of thought Tividale would of operated it. Does kiddy have e300s?
Quote from: Chris on November 03, 2016, 11:20:56 AM
Really? Would of thought Tividale would of operated it. Does kiddy have e300s?
Yes, Kidderminster operate the new 267 & 657 Centro contracts. KR have 4 x E300's
I believe 267/657 contracts should be operated by small wheelbase vehicles (8.5 m) due to road size restrictions to avoid driving on pavements!
Quote from: hartshill busman 724210 on November 03, 2016, 12:40:42 PM
I believe 267/657 contracts should be operated by small wheelbase vehicles (8.5 m) due to road size restrictions to avoid driving on pavements!
I've seen 10.6M Darts on Hanson's 267 on occassions
which depot runs the s3w as a long while ago I saw a bus in Kidderminster bus station change from a local route and put this number and then leave the bus station ? and also have some drivers and vehicles moved from Tividale to Kidderminster
Quote from: Cedric on November 03, 2016, 01:29:05 PM
which depot runs the s3w as a long while ago I saw a bus in Kidderminster bus station change from a local route and put this number and then leave the bus station ? and also have some drivers and vehicles moved from Tividale to Kidderminster
Redditch
In a similar vein, I've previously seen a Redditch bus coming off the M42 into Solihull displaying "1 - Rifle Range"
Quote from: Kevin on November 03, 2016, 01:31:43 PM
Redditch
In a similar vein, I've previously seen a Redditch bus coming off the M42 into Solihull displaying "1 - Rifle Range"
I did see a Redditch Dart on the 30 in Acocks Green displaying "1 Rifle Range" a couple of months ago.
Also saw a Streetlite on the 30 displaying "25 Ward End Fox And Goose " a couple of months ago.
Quote from: 2206 on November 03, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
I did see a Redditch Dart on the 30 in Acocks Green displaying "1 Rifle Range" a couple of months ago.
Diamonds midlands fleet has got all 3 depots routes programmed
I've seen Diamond buses parked up in Acocks Green village (Shirley Road) out of service, showing 'Kidderminster Depot' on the displays.
Quote from: Stu on November 03, 2016, 06:25:11 PM
I've seen Diamond buses parked up in Acocks Green village (Shirley Road) out of service, showing 'Kidderminster Depot' on the displays.
Hanover displays seem to have Redditch and Kidderminster routes,
Mobitec have all 3. May have changed recently due to them being updated.
Brand new buses coming soon to the 142..... I think streetlites
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2016, 11:56:15 AM
Brand new buses coming soon to the 142..... I think streetlites
Where have you heard that from?
The 142 has had MPD's or Solo's for a long time, why larger buses now when it's only just been extended.
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2016, 11:59:33 AM
Where have you heard that from?
The 142 has had MPD's or Solo's for a long time, why larger buses now when it's only just been extended.
A driver confirmed half a million buses going onto 142. May be something to do with the info on rotala Plc thread?
Tividale still operating 202
Must be a very busy route?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on November 04, 2016, 01:09:51 PM
Must be a very busy route?
Fairly good loadings especially during peak hours
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2016, 01:08:15 PM
A driver confirmed half a million buses going onto 142. May be something to do with the info on rotala Plc thread?
Tividale still operating 202
The Pvr of the 142 hasn't half increased still it was extended....
There hasn't been any Rotala new bus order announcements, I'd expect the Bus Alliance quote would refer to a higher profile corridor such as the 4/4H or 301/302 etc
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2016, 01:15:20 PM
The Pvr of the 142 hasn't half increased still it was extended....
There hasn't been any Rotala new bus order announcements, I'd expect the Bus Alliance quote would refer to a higher profile corridor such as the 4/4H or 301/302 etc
Will have to wait and see...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2016, 01:08:15 PM
A driver confirmed half a million buses going onto 142.
500,000 buses is a lot of buses... I not convinced that this information is very reliable...
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 04, 2016, 04:17:55 PM
500,000 buses is a lot of buses... I not convinced that this information is very reliable...
Things must be going well. Stagecoach runs around 8000 buses in the U.K and First around 9000.
Quote from: MW on November 04, 2016, 05:02:59 PM
Things must be going well. Stagecoach runs around 8000 buses in the U.K and First around 9000.
First have approximately 6200.
http://www.firstgroupplc.com/about-firstgroup/uk-bus.aspx
Quote from: 2206 on November 04, 2016, 05:07:38 PM
First have approximately 7500.
http://www.buszone.co.uk/UK.html
That wasn't my point
Quote from: MW on November 04, 2016, 05:08:47 PM
That wasn't my point
Get your facts right 😉 Half a million investment in buses I meant
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
Get your facts right 😉 Half a million investment in buses I meant
To put that into perspective NXWM took delivery of over £1m investment today. Half a million is about 3 StreetLites
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2016, 05:37:34 PM
To put that into perspective NXWM took delivery of over £1m investment today. Half a million is about 3 StreetLites
But if a driver said so, it must be right.....
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2016, 05:31:12 PM
Get your facts right 😉 Half a million investment in buses I meant
That will teach you to be a little more clearer when you post stuff here :P
@hartshill busman 724210From the tender specification
QuoteVehicle Capacity and Dimensions
A minimum capacity of 25 is required. The physical limitations of this route require
the use of a short wheel based vehicle.
Any vehicle proposed for use on the service shall fully comply with the Public Service
Vehicles Accessibility Regulations 2000.
Preston bus solo Sr or hybrid versa in service in West Bromwich
Quote from: Dom on November 07, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Preston bus solo Sr or hybrid versa in service in West Bromwich
Hybrid Versa. It's on the 40
Quote from: Dom on November 07, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Preston bus solo Sr or hybrid versa in service in West Bromwich
30123
One hybrid is on 226 departed merry hill at 11:55
If my calculations are correct it should be on the 1915/2115 ex Merry hell
I noted 20100 (KP02PVA) is now back at Tividale folllowing it'a short stint at both Redditch and Kidderminster I saw it on the 41 in West Bromwich this afternoon
002 branded buses being debranded... That didn't last long...
32308 on 002
Primo on 231
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 19, 2016, 12:33:20 PM
002 branded buses being debranded... That didn't last long...
32308 on 002
Primo on 231
Probably because the branding was bubbling / peeling off them. 30811 is de-branded
Quote from: Winston on November 19, 2016, 01:19:27 PM
Probably because the branding was bubbling / peeling off them. 30811 is de-branded
30880 also debranded
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 19, 2016, 01:38:42 PM
30880 also debranded
There only being debranded for the short term.
There's a dart on 142 which is 05 reg looks recently painted, and interior good condition. Anyone I'd fleet number
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 22, 2016, 01:17:51 PM
There's a dart on 142 which is 05 reg looks recently painted, and interior good condition. Anyone I'd fleet number
Probably either 20001 or 20023 which have been in storage at Tividale ex Wessex
Quote from: Winston on November 22, 2016, 01:54:36 PM
Probably either 20001 or 20023 which have been in storage at Tividale ex Wessex
Oh ok thanks for that info, no fleetnumber was on view.
2085* on 142- can't get up any hill at all
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 06, 2016, 03:27:15 PM
2085* on 142- can't get up any hill at all
I presume it has got up every hill it has attempted to and is not parked on the roadside somewhere
Quote from: Tony on December 06, 2016, 04:00:37 PM
I presume it has got up every hill it has attempted to and is not parked on the roadside somewhere
Dangerously slowly.
New 002 branding on a Centro. Same style as the Volvo on the 25
Quote from: John on December 08, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
New 002 branding on a Centro. Same style as the Volvo on the 25
It it the same green as the previous branding
@John ?
Quote from: Winston on December 08, 2016, 11:43:03 AM
It it the same green as the previous branding @John ?
Looks like it
@Winston. It looks a lot better than the old branding
Quote from: John on December 08, 2016, 11:47:12 AM
Looks like it @Winston. It looks a lot better than the old branding
Cheers
@John , I take it you didn't manage to get a photo?
Quote from: Winston on December 08, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
Cheers @John , I take it you didn't manage to get a photo?
I've got one, just can't see the fleet number on it. I think it is the same green, but it looks different because there is not so much as the last branding
Streetlite 32308 is on the 16 today
Currently parked up at Tividale (main depot) are the following:
New used additions are 3 x DeeBee (Yellow/Black) liveried & 1 x GHA liveried Optare Solo's.
At least 4 of the ex Preston Bus Hybrid Versa's are parked up out of use.
Over at John's Lane (new depot site) there appear to extra withdrawn Darts parked down the bottom end of the site, along with a Volvo/Wright Eclipse 30883? & a Plaxton Centro, I assume 30303.
Update:
One of the Dee Bee liveried Solo's is a YJ60 examples, there's another allover white Solo since arrived.
The other fire victim which I assume was the one the happnened the day after KR's 30303 was destroyed is a LWB Solo in latest Diamond Livery with rear end fire damage (can't ID), but it parked in John's Lane with the other withdrawn buses. It looks to be a newer example 57 plate & above
I have been to Tividale to day, two of the solos are YJ60KBP,YJ59GFY.One of the Preston buses is YJ61LJF unable to id the others. Had a walk around the yard other side of road SN09FUY is there, only one unable to id was a silver/red enviro 200?
Sorry Preston bus YJ61JJF,fat fingers.
Quote from: midlandred2003 on December 23, 2016, 01:30:20 PM
I have been to Tividale to day, two of the solos are YJ60KBP,YJ59GFY.One of the Preston buses is YJ61LJF unable to id the others. Had a walk around the yard other side of road SN09FUY is there, only one unable to id was a silver/red enviro 200?
The Wessex E200 is 20820. I don't suppose you made a log of the contents of the other yard with the withdrawn stuff? I only had a look from the footpath through the fence.
Yes I did they were,30303;20536;30384;20183;30214;A915;20818;30382;20361;20852;20601;30209;20263;30388;20849;20223;30934;20572;
30636;30884;20507;30218;20519;20533;30401;20820
Quote from: midlandred2003 on December 24, 2016, 08:57:03 AM
Yes I did they were,30303;20536;30384;20183;30214;A915;20818;30382;30361;20852;20801;30209;20263;30388;20859;20223;30934;20572;
30636;30884;20507;30218;20519;20533;30401;20820
Nice one, thanks for posting!
I think there might be a couple of typos:
30361 should be 20361
20801 should be 20601
20859 should be 20849
I've seen these from the foot path.
Yes your right sorry about that.
Quote from: midlandred2003 on December 24, 2016, 09:54:54 AM
Yes your right sorry about that.
No worries, you filled in the blanks that I couldn't see. I've edited your original post
Quote from: John on December 08, 2016, 11:35:50 AM
New 002 branding on a Centro. Same style as the Volvo on the 25
I saw this today, looked smarter than the old branding.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 24, 2016, 02:14:58 PM
I saw this today, looked smarter than the old branding.
Maybe hey might actually brand enough vehicles this time
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 24, 2016, 02:28:27 PM
Maybe hey might actually brand enough vehicles this time
Well today was the first one I saw and i live by the 002 route! So I'm guessing there can't be that many with the new branding.
Looking at John's recent photo, 30808 has already lost the 'l' from Halesowen & gained a nice big crease through the Diamond logo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/31511073135/in/dateposted/
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 24, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Well today was the first one I saw and i live by the 002 route! So I'm guessing there can't be that many with the new branding.
There's 2 branded ATM
As I cant see an appropiate thread, I'll put this here.
Are Diamond 301E's to Bloxwich a regular occurance?
Saw one as I was going to the chippy in Leamore around 4pm.
No I far as I know they full.routre unless on special timetable
Accident in volley gate. 002 following 004 route
Anyone know what 2 buses are on 36 today
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2017, 10:07:49 AM
Anyone know what 2 buses are on 36 today
Redditch depot route.
Which service are the latest solos that are in service normal found on
Quote from: Solo1 on January 18, 2017, 06:53:29 AM
Which service are the latest solos that are in service normal found on
Pretty much guaranteed on 142
Quote from: Solo1 on January 18, 2017, 06:53:29 AM
Which service are the latest solos that are in service normal found on
What are you referring to when you say the latest Solo's? The 59 / 10 & 60 plate ex Webberbus & GHA examples?
The latest 55 reg & 04 reg solos which is the best service to find them 2073*** ones
Quote from: Solo1 on January 18, 2017, 11:20:09 AM
The latest 55 reg & 04 reg solos which is the best service to find them 2073*** ones
142 usually 2 on there at least
Quote from: Winston on January 18, 2017, 10:49:10 AM
What are you referring to when you say the latest Solo's? The 59 / 10 & 60 plate ex Webberbus & GHA examples?
What are those solos?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 18, 2017, 11:29:00 AM
142 usually 2 on there at least
They appear quite frequently on the 202 & 226 as well
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 18, 2017, 11:29:24 AM
What are those solos?
8 newly acquired Solo's see Rotala Fleetlist with Dec fleet changes plus my posts before that of Yellow / Black Dee Bee Solo's parked in Tividale depot from 20th Dec & 22nd Dec
Also the 231 is a regular solo
30808-142
@Solo1 wait around Halesowen for a few hours soon spot one
A solo that was going up mucklow hill yesterday caused a traffic jam by how slow it went up there
One of the black ones
Quote from: karl724223 on January 18, 2017, 07:33:16 PM
A solo that was going up mucklow hill yesterday caused a traffic jam by how slow it went up there
One of the black ones
Lmao no doubt the ks03 reg ones.
20732 is usually on the W/ton 61 service
PD0001374/260
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Queen Elizabeth Hospital given
service number 142 effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
PD0001374/153
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between West Bromwich, Bus Station and Walsall, Bradford Place given
service number 4 / 4H / 4M effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
PD0001374/259
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between Merry Hill Centre and Weoley Castle given service number 002
effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
Quote from: Winston on January 20, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
PD0001374/260
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Queen Elizabeth Hospital given
service number 142 effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
PD0001374/153
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between West Bromwich, Bus Station and Walsall, Bradford Place given
service number 4 / 4H / 4M effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
PD0001374/259
DIAMOND BUS LTD, HALLBRIDGE WAY, TIPTON ROAD, TIVIDALE, WARLEY, B69 3HW
Operating between Merry Hill Centre and Weoley Castle given service number 002
effective from 27 February 2017. To amend Timetable.
Minor timetable amendments for 002/4/4H
Pretty sure 142 is running 10 minutes earlier than scheduled too?
Quote from: 4747 on January 19, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
20732 is usually on the W/ton 61 service
it's now 20731. On the 61 spoke to the driver
20731 seen earlier on 61 in Wolverhampton now on 226 service about to leave for merry hill how come this happens
Quote from: Solo1 on January 21, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
20731 seen earlier on 61 in Wolverhampton now on 226 service about to leave for merry hill how come this happens
The 61 finishes at 15:30, I expect it has switched on to the 226 service to run the evening service.
Quote from: Winston on January 21, 2017, 04:44:51 PM
The 61 finishes at 15:30, I expect it has switched on to the 226 service to run the evening service.
thanks where does the other bus come from for the 226 evening
Quote from: Solo1 on January 21, 2017, 09:06:58 PM
thanks where does the other bus come from for the 226 evening
It should come off the 231 (unless the driver takes it back to garage to change it).
Looking for solo 20730
3 of the 13 plate b7rles on 002. Amazing buses.
Saw an 002 with the old branding still on it earlier.
30861 now blue.
Anyone know what route new solos for? 142 maybe? Either way I would like to see some branding on them.
Any of the new 10 59 or 60 reg solos out today please
Quote from: Solo1 on January 30, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
Any of the new 10 59 or 60 reg solos out today please
One, 'YJ60 ***' (I think) was on the 16W this morning
Quote from: Solo1 on January 30, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
Any of the new 10 59 or 60 reg solos out today please
None on the 142
See photo link for pic of the latest solo with diamond seen today on 108 20742
SJ04DVM in rt302 left Walsall 8:27
Anyone actually seen any cadets lately??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2017, 11:41:11 AM
Anyone actually seen any cadets lately??
30211 is off for mot prep
30213 electrical issues I'm told
30214 also electrical issues.
20023 on the 142
Quote from: Ash on February 04, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
20023 on the 142
Timings?
Don't worry caught it by chance. One quick dart!
30862 also repainted
Quote from: 4747 on February 04, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
30211 is off for mot prep
30213 electrical issues I'm told
30214 also electrical issues.
I'm pretty sure that there are/were 3 Cadets parked up withdrawn on the site of the new depot.
Two were 30209 (accident victim) & 30218 moved from KR, the other must have been one of the above?
Quote from: Winston on February 04, 2017, 01:55:00 PM
I'm pretty sure that there are/were 3 Cadets parked up withdrawn on the site of the new depot.
Two were 30209 (accident victim) & 30218 moved from KR, the other must have been one of the above?
30209/30213/30214/30218 are over the road.
30201 looks mostly to be on the 301 or 401E if anyone is after that vehicle.
I bashed 20827 (YJ54BUF) on the 50 (Wolverhampton - Wednesfield) today can honestly say those 54 reg Cummins engined Solo's usually go like stink but this is from what I've been told is ready to go bang it was making a god awful noise it has absolutely no kickdown or power
Any of the 10 59 or 60 reg solos out today or 20023
Quote from: Solo1 on February 06, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
Any of the 10 59 or 60 reg solos out today or 20023
20023 was on 142 again
Am I right in saying not all of the most recent solos have leather seats? I'm sure there was a 10 reg on 202 but didn't have leather seats??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 14, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
Am I right in saying not all of the most recent solos have leather seats? I'm sure there was a 10 reg on 202 but didn't have leather seats??
ExGHA DeeBee have Black and Yellow high back leather seats
20735: YJ59GFX
20736: YJ59GFY
20741: YJ60KBP
20742: YJ60KBU
ExWebber Bus have non high back blue moquette seats
20737: YJ10EYS
20738: YJ10EYT
20739: YJ10EYU
20740: YJ10EYV
Quote from: Reece on February 15, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
ExGHA DeeBee have Black and Yellow high back leather seats
20735: YJ59GFX
20736: YJ59GFY
20741: YJ60KBP
20742: YJ60KBU
ExWebber Bus have non high back blue moquette seats
20737: YJ10EYS
20738: YJ10EYT
20739: YJ10EYU
20740: YJ10EYV
Thanks for that information. Some of the blue moquette ones are in service now.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 14, 2017, 05:59:47 PM
Am I right in saying not all of the most recent solos have leather seats? I'm sure there was a 10 reg on 202 but didn't have leather seats??
photo on the photo links page of the 10 reg
Looking for 20738 JY10EY so one of the latest solos out today please
Quote from: Winston on February 04, 2017, 01:55:00 PM
I'm pretty sure that there are/were 3 Cadets parked up withdrawn on the site of the new depot.
Two were 30209 (accident victim) & 30218 moved from KR, the other must have been one of the above?
New depot?
Quote from: chris123 on February 16, 2017, 03:44:52 PM
New depot?
From May last year:
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2016/05/03/140-new-black-country-jobs-as-diamond-bus-company-expands/
How many drivers needed for the new April contracts @ Simon dunn
Around 32 drivers
20844-142
30489 back at tividale
Yj10eyu on 34 today
@Simon Dunn will diamond be getting any new buses for the new tenders?
Quote from: Chris on February 23, 2017, 04:56:35 PM
@Simon Dunn will diamond be getting any new buses for the new tenders?
Well I'm led to believe that 1 or 2 Darts that were previously withdrawn are being re-instated into service I know that 20543 (YT51EAO) is one of those Darts also being re-instated having been VOR semi-withdrawn is MAN Centro 30704 (KX57OVS) which has been off the road at Kidderminster for around 2 years
Quote from: Chris on February 23, 2017, 04:56:35 PM
@Simon Dunn will diamond be getting any new buses for the new tenders?
We have acquired 11 x 2009/10 Optare Solo's to operate these services.
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on February 23, 2017, 06:28:56 PM
We have acquired 11 x 2009/10 Optare Solo's to operate these services.
Simon
What is going to replace the versas?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 23, 2017, 06:42:52 PM
I thought they were going off lease??
We have been carrying too many spares buses. The Vera's will be replaced by the 4 x Daimlar Streetlites, ERZ2028, GN14LPL
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on February 23, 2017, 07:43:09 PM
We have been carrying too many spares buses. The Vera's will be replaced by the 4 x Daimlar Streetlites, ERZ2028, GN14LPL
Simon
Shame tha rotala will be losing environmentally friendly high spec vehicles.
Solo's 20010 & 20738 are both currently on loan to Preston Bus:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/33046171576/in/dateposted/
I've just bashed 20734 (YM55SVG) all the way from Stourbridge to the Q.E. got to say the power of it is absolutely phenomenal I used to think 20836 (YJ54BUE) went quite well but that is nothing compared to this brutus love it!!
Quote from: Will on February 25, 2017, 12:49:19 PM
I've just bashed 20734 (YM55SVG) all the way from Stourbridge to the Q.E. got to say the power of it is absolutely phenomenal I used to think 20836 (YJ54BUE) went quite well but that is nothing compared to this brutus love it!!
I can seriously agree. Any idea who was the driver??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 25, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
I can seriously agree. Any idea who was the driver??
Young (early 30s) Asian guy certainly knew how to drive that bus that's for sure! 😁
Quote from: Will on February 25, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
Young (early 30s) Asian guy certainly knew how to drive that bus that's for sure! 😁
Think I know you you mean. They all drive the hell out of the buses on that route.
@Will shame you didn't get the leather seated solo which was on there
Video I made of 20734 :D (https://youtu.be/-PypJQCLpC4)
Quote from: Will on February 25, 2017, 11:07:50 PM
Video I made of 20734 :D (https://youtu.be/-PypJQCLpC4)
I'm sure it was 20734 I saw on the 142 today, it has an exhaust on it the same shape & size of the E400MMC exhaust surround
Quote from: Winston on February 25, 2017, 11:27:05 PM
I'm sure it was 20734 I saw on the 142 today, it has an exhaust on it the same shape & size of the E400MMC exhaust surround
Yeah
@Winston that's the one it's bloody massive I've never seen an Optare with an exhaust that big before and when she's on tic over she sounds fiesty
30854 and 30861 make a dart look quick up a hill.
YJ59 GFX has just passed me on a tow truck by Sandwell General Hospital still in it's old DeeBee livery. It's heading for a repaint and refurb.
Whete do diamond have thete buses painted & refurbished at
Quote from: Solo1 on March 07, 2017, 12:23:41 PM
Whete do diamond have thete buses painted & refurbished at
This is one of the places they use - http://www.web-solution.co.uk/commercial_vehicle_painters/
With some arriva drivers joining diamond bus will they stay
on the arriva services or will they have to learn all the diamond routes
20735 solo new one & 20605 are they about
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
20735 solo new one & 20605 are they about
Why you asking for 20605. That ones knackered
Which 9 buses are diamond having from arriva Wednesfield
For the 142 rerouting could it not go up hagley road then turn right where the 147 turns out. That way it is not leaving the many people out who simply travel one stop up the hill? Then left down high farm and continue 244 route?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 29, 2017, 12:17:10 PM
For the 142 rerouting could it not go up hagley road then turn right where the 147 turns out. That way it is not leaving the many people out who simply travel one stop up the hill? Then left down high farm and continue 244 route?
Yes, this is a fair point actually as the people heading from Halesowen up Hagley road will be reduced to an hourly 192 unless they travel all the way round on the 4H
@sonic84 but those on twirly passes would rather do the loop as it saves putting the heating on at home
2 x Preston Liveried Hybrid Versa's heading north bound on the M5 just after junction 2 off to pastures new I assume.
One was 30124 YJ61JJF
KR accident damaged 30935 is now parked up in the main Tividale depot along with a Wessex WF Streetlite.
A number of Preston Hybrids have also left.
30940 got nearside damage by headlights. Still in service
30845 and 30492 on 226. Don't know what
@the trainbasher moans about.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2017, 12:17:25 PM
30940 got nearside damage by headlights. Still in service
30845 and 30492 on 226. Don't know what @the trainbasher moans about.
There is no 30845, I assume you mean 30854?
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2017, 12:23:53 PM
There is no 30845, I assume you mean 30854?
20845 my bad- one of the better solos I think.
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2017, 12:23:53 PM
There is no 30845, I assume you mean 30854?
30854 was on the Walsall-Bloxwich corridor today.
What engines are the 10 reg solos?
@Trident 4194 I know their not just because it got a Mercesdes engine doesn't mean they are slow.
Quote from: Reece on April 06, 2017, 10:51:18 PM
@Trident 4194 I know their not just because it got a Mercesdes engine doesn't mean they are slow.
@Will states otherwise though
It's a personal preference mate I prefer Mercedes engined Solo due to the wineing gear noises and
@Will prefer Cummins engined Solo as they sound and are very powerful.
Yes I bloody do state otherwise!
Are 20735 & 20736 on the road yet if so on what service
Quote from: Solo1 on April 07, 2017, 07:33:16 AM
Are 20735 & 20736 on the road yet if so on what service
231
20739 is the vehicle on the 231 today.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 07, 2017, 07:33:16 AM
Are 20735 & 20736 on the road yet if so on what service
20736 was painted allover blue by 30th March and stands a chance it could now be on the road.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=929525840522651&set=gm.280557379054746&type=3&theater
20856- the first solo I've been on which has all matching seats...
20735 on 29 service in walsall
See no some of the ex arriva buses parked up on the land oppersite the garage and have got diamond logos
257 had (YJ60) (Ex-Beeston) with the new ticket machine
20 people 0 concessionary passes used today in a peak journey on the 142. Better than most other midi bus routes
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 24, 2017, 11:12:47 AM
20 people 0 concessionary passes used today in a peak journey on the 142. Better than most other midi bus routes
As
@Simon Dunn has stated it's still not make enough money for the commercial cost (remember the 142 day service is not subsidised like the evenings and Sunday) and concessonary passes not valid during the morning peak...
@Trident 4194 the daytime 142 is going and
@Central Buses Will most like run it hourly if it's not subsidised daytime.
@Simon Dunn has Diamond ever thought of running the old 248 between Stourbridge and Dudley?
Chris
At the present moment in time following the new contract awards our focus is on making them work
Tfwm mucked up big time yesterday as the stops in stourbridge stated Arriva Midlands running the 257 at .50 when diamond runs at .42 on a Sunday
Quote from: Chris on April 24, 2017, 05:46:19 PM
Tfwm mucked up big time yesterday as the stops in stourbridge stated Arriva Midlands running the 257 at .50 when diamond runs at .42 on a Sunday
Wasn't the 142 meant to be running up bassnage road from today???
At least one of the ex Arriva Darts was out on the 326 today. I saw it in the distance as I was just walking to Bloxwich station
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
At least one of the ex Arriva Darts was out on the 326 today. I saw it in the distance as I was just walking to Bloxwich station
One on the 229 as well.
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
At least one of the ex Arriva Darts was out on the 326 today. I saw it in the distance as I was just walking to Bloxwich station
2156.
2158 was on the 229 and 2103 was on the 57.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 24, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
Wasn't the 142 meant to be running up bassnage road from today???
To be honest, last weeks Network West Midlands email was confusing, I wonder it it's the evening journeys that are diverted via Bassnage Road??
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
At least one of the ex Arriva Darts was out on the 326 today. I saw it in the distance as I was just walking to Bloxwich station
Three ex Arriva Dart's were on there today. There was also one on the 65 and X781 NWK was on the 23 in Bilston.
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 06:20:32 PM
At least one of the ex Arriva Darts was out on the 326 today. I saw it in the distance as I was just walking to Bloxwich station
Do they have Diamond stickers over the Arriva fleetname?
Quote from: Westy on April 24, 2017, 10:45:14 PM
Do they have Diamond stickers over the Arriva fleetname?
yes they do
20744 is working on the 12 service Blackheath-Cradley heath this morning.
Former arriva buses on 57 2103. 229
2102.& a promo 326. 2155 2270 223 solo
Ex Arriva on the 41.
Pity one can't drop on the 1850 off Stourbridge tomorrow...accidentally of course
I still can't understand the 142 withdrawal. How long has diamond ran the 142 for?? Curtailment between Halesowen and Stourbridge would have been the ideal solution, I hope central do well now. Absolutely ridiculous you take on all the tender work and just leave the commercial routes. Your absolute crap sheds are still roaming around why not invest in more buses and surely tenders will only be short run, commercial services may be long run growth.
Rant over:
And good one putting the most recent solos on the 12,13. Do they do allocation??????
Spoken like a true enthusiast who would have no idea how to run a bus company, you need to earn money to keep the wheels moving, but no, let's run it, Central are excellent, they make a success of everything! How are the 297 and X16 doing?
Quote from: jc on April 25, 2017, 04:00:53 PM
Spoken like a true enthusiast who would have no idea how to run a bus company, you need to earn money to keep the wheels moving, but no, let's run it, Central are excellent, they make a success of everything! How are the 297 and X16 doing?
I understand that however why after all these years have diamond finally realised they don't make enough money on it?? Surely it's been on the decline for a long time
So when is the appropriate time to cut it? They have clearly tried to make it work, tried to change the service to encourage growth but, it hasn't worked the way they wanted it too. End of the day decisions to cut services are not taken lightly, if its not making money and its not generating growth, then what else should be done? I give Central Buses 3 months before they follow suit and withdraw the service too!
As the saying goes. Use it or loose it
Quote from: jc on April 25, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
So when is the appropriate time to cut it? They have clearly tried to make it work, tried to change the service to encourage growth but, it hasn't worked the way they wanted it too. End of the day decisions to cut services are not taken lightly, if its not making money and its not generating growth, then what else should be done? I give Central Buses 3 months before they follow suit and withdraw the service too!
You're giving them a long time, they'll soon get fed up of
@Trident 4194 moaning and withdraw it. Amazing that any bus he catches gets withdrawn or rerouted :o
Take the 261/205 for example
The 261 was cut to Wall Heath because people used the 260 from wall Heath to Wolverhampton.
People moaned so NXWM extended it to Womborne, but nobody used it so 6 months later it got cut back to Wall Heath
Again they moaned when the 205 lost the Wall Heath to Kingswinford bit, but nobody used it...
Quote from: pndriver on April 25, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
You're giving them a long time, they'll soon get fed up of @Trident 4194 moaning and withdraw it. Amazing that any bus he catches gets withdrawn or rerouted :o
Ironic isn't it
@pndriver he quit moaning about the 244 now. Just shows that the decision was made about making the 99 more reliable by curtailing it and adding more layover time at QE has helped the new 244 be more reliable maybe like when the 141 went to 30 mins and as the X10 is back to 20 mins, the 244 will change back to every 20 mins and could be extended to University.
142 isn't making money so instead of Diamond running the service at a loss they chose to withdraw and concentrate on the adopted Arriva routes and make them work as Simon said.
The 257 on Sunday ran on time except for my journey from kford which the driver was 4 minutes late and he apologised to every passenger (with tfwm STILL haven't updated the information which misleading especially on ex Arriva going to diamond yet stating arriva still runs those services.
I'm glad Diamond took on old Arriva services because the stupid interworking Arriva did were unreliable and like a grand prix over the black country
@Chris 257/142 were interworking last night
82/229 are still to interwork as well according to the tender spec
Gone are the days when I could board a 229 in dudley and end up 4 hours later in merry Hill on the same bus
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 25, 2017, 05:40:30 PM
@Chris 257/142 were interworking last night
82/229 are still to interwork as well according to the tender spec
Gone are the days when I could board a 229 in dudley and end up 4 hours later in merry Hill on the same bus
Sunday daytimes seems to be 257 runs standalone or interworks with something in Dudley? As the solo I got finished at stourbridge then went back to Dudley
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 25, 2017, 05:40:30 PM
@Chris 257/142 were interworking last night
82/229 are still to interwork as well according to the tender spec
Gone are the days when I could board a 229 in dudley and end up 4 hours later in merry Hill on the same bus
X96 can get you to merry hill from dudley in under 20mins 8)
@pndriver yeah but I fancied a nice trip to Merry Hill via the 229/545/82/208 that day
Quote from: MW on April 25, 2017, 06:02:04 PM
@2206 you scumbag, why did you delete your post
I'm not a scumbag. It was in reply to a post above, at first I thought he was asking how the X16 and 297 are doing (think they still operated), but after reading it again it looks like he is using those withdrawls as examples to Trident 4194, so I deleted my post.
Quote from: 2206 on April 25, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
I'm not a scumbag. It was in reply to a post above, at first I thought he was asking how the X16 and 297 are doing (think they still operated), but after reading it again it looks like he is using those withdrawls as examples to Trident 4194, so I deleted my post.
And it ruins the flow of the forum. You should have left it there
Quote from: 2206 on April 25, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
I'm not a scumbag. It was in reply to a post above, at first I thought he was asking how the X16 and 297 are doing (think they still operated), but after reading it again it looks like he is using those withdrawls as examples to Trident 4194, so I deleted my post.
@2206 it has been asked by moderators to leave the post if you wanted it deleted you should have messaged
@Tony @Winston or
@Stu to remove it. You made a mistake everyone does mate.
Quote from: jc on April 25, 2017, 04:00:53 PM
Spoken like a true enthusiast who would have no idea how to run a bus company, you need to earn money to keep the wheels moving, but no, let's run it, Central are excellent, they make a success of everything! How are the 297 and X16 doing?
Good luck naming an operator on here that never tried a new commercial venture and withdrew it at some point. Even NX and the like have been down that route.
And now with Central taking over the 142 is probably going to end up hourly and so even less people use it. I think it started going downhill when the frequency was cut from half hourly to every 40 mins, that sort of frequency is just not useful so I guess passengers deserted it from then
Quote from: Kevin on April 25, 2017, 06:38:47 PM
And now with Central taking over the 142 is probably going to end up hourly and so even less people use it. I think it started going downhill when the frequency was cut from half hourly to every 40 mins, that sort of frequency is just not useful so I guess passengers deserted it from then
I still think that the lack of branding and quality of some of the buses havs also led to the decline.
How long has the 142 actually been with diamond? I remember some very old darts with the square headlights??
Quote from: 2206 on April 25, 2017, 06:05:22 PM
I'm not a scumbag. It was in reply to a post above, at first I thought he was asking how the X16 and 297 are doing (think they still operated), but after reading it again it looks like he is using those withdrawls as examples to Trident 4194, so I deleted my post.
In future, please just use the Modify button to add a correction to the post, rather than removing the entire content. For example:
EDIT: sorry, didn't realise the X16 and 297 were already withdrawn
Quote from: MW on April 25, 2017, 06:02:04 PM
@2206 you scumbag, why did you delete your post
@MW in future can you please mind your tone and quit the insults, thank you.
Quote from: Stu on April 25, 2017, 06:55:18 PM
In future, please just use the Modify button to add a correction to the post, rather than removing the entire content. For example:
EDIT: sorry, didn't realise the X16 and 297 were already withdrawn
Will do that next time, thanks
@Stu.
My apologies for removing the entire content this time.
If anyone wants to know the fleet numbers of the ex Arriva vehicles, they are as follows...
21001 is JJZ 5248.
21002 is SN51 UDW.
21003 is LJ51 DBZ.
21004 is LJ51 DCE.
21005 is LJ51 DBX.
21006 is SK52 MLJ.
21007 is SK52 MLF.
21008 is SK52 MLN.
30215 is X781 NWX.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 26, 2017, 04:41:50 PM
If anyone wants to know the fleet numbers of the ex Arriva vehicles, they are as follows...
21001 is JJZ 5248.
21002 is SN51 UDW.
21003 is LJ51 DBZ.
21004 is LJ51 DCE.
21005 is LJ51 DBX.
21006 is SK52 MLJ.
21007 is SK52 MLF.
21008 is SK52 MLN.
30215 is X781 NWK.
are the just darts
Quote from: Cedric on April 26, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
are the just darts
At least one of them is a cadet.
Quote from: Kevin on April 25, 2017, 06:38:47 PM
And now with Central taking over the 142 is probably going to end up hourly and so even less people use it. I think it started going downhill when the frequency was cut from half hourly to every 40 mins, that sort of frequency is just not useful so I guess passengers deserted it from then
According to the latest TfWM services changes update central will be running the service hourly between Stourbridge and Halesowen. Dunstall Road will no longer be served as they will run direct via Huntingtree Road and Highfield Lane.
Shame as Diamond have only just got the evening 142 and the extension between Halesowen and the QE seemed well used when I have seen it or used it. Perhaps it's only a peak thing and it's quiet during the days. However with the 244 now half hourly on the QE side and Hansons only running into Harborne during peaks it seems like there was potential for growth east of Halesowen.
Hang on.
So they've just won the evening & Sunday contact but now withdrawn their daytime commercial service?
Confused :l
Quote from: Westy on April 26, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Hang on.
So they've just won the evening & Sunday contact but now withdrawn their daytime commercial service?
Confused :l
The logic is unreal. The 142 between Halesowen and Stourbridge has been one of the more successful diamond routes in my opinion. They tried worlds end it failed, they tried QE which apparently also failed
Anyone know the link to the new central Timetable?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 26, 2017, 06:45:59 PM
The logic is unreal. The 142 between Halesowen and Stourbridge has been one of the more successful diamond routes in my opinion. They tried worlds end it failed, they tried QE which apparently also failed
Anyone know the link to the new central Timetable?
I don't see what you don't get and how you say the logic is unreal.
It loses loads of money, needs thousands more passengers to break even. Simons has told you that. So it is not successful
But surely if the 142 is that unsuccesfull, then surely it should be subsidised?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 26, 2017, 07:18:35 PM
But surely if the 142 is that unsuccesfull, then surely it should be subsidised?
Why?
Just because an operator cannot make a success of a commercial route doesn't mean TfWM should step in and keep it running.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 26, 2017, 04:41:50 PM
If anyone wants to know the fleet numbers of the ex Arriva vehicles, they are as follows...
21001 is JJZ 5248.
21002 is SN51 UDW.
21003 is LJ51 DBZ.
21004 is LJ51 DCE.
21005 is LJ51 DBX.
21006 is SK52 MLJ.
21007 is SK52 MLF.
21008 is SK52 MLN.
30215 is X781 NWK.
30215 is 'NWX', not 'NWK'
Tony.
The tender documents had gone out I believe before Central indicated an interest.
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2017, 07:25:58 PM
Why?
Just because an operator cannot make a success of a commercial route doesn't mean TfWM should step in and keep it running.
Why, because it is a socially needed service, when ever I have caught it, no matter what time during the daytime, it appears well used.
The problem is it's really not possible to do the return journey within an hour which I am sure Central Buses will find out.
They`ve got a chance now the route is shorter into Halesowen.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 26, 2017, 07:39:40 PM
Why, because it is a socially needed service, when ever I have caught it, no matter what time during the daytime, it appears well used.
The problem is it's really not possible to do the return journey within an hour which I am sure Central Buses will find out.
But if people have an alternative service within a set distance, even if it means a change of buses to get where they are going to, then it doesn't meet the requirements for a subsidised service.
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
But if people have an alternative service within a set distance, even if it means a change of buses to get where they are going to, then it doesn't meet the requirements for a subsidised service.
That's a fair point, but am sure with the 142 it would have met the eligibility given that people from Pedmore Fields travelling to Halesowen would have had to catch a 276 to either Stourbridge or Lye and catch a 9.
Not blaming Diamond because they seem to have tried everything to make it work, it's a shame as was mentioned earlier that NE gave up on the 247/8 and 242.
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
But if people have an alternative service within a set distance, even if it means a change of buses to get where they are going to, then it doesn't meet the requirements for a subsidised service.
Looks like I'll have to get the crowded number 9 in the morning, oh fun times ahead. 142 loadings are inconsistent, but central won't last long. Diamond network value ticket will no doubt decrease with no services going to Stourbridge which one may regard as one of the places to go in West Midlands.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 26, 2017, 08:04:13 PM
Looks like I'll have to get the crowded number 9 in the morning, oh fun times ahead. 142 loadings are inconsistent, but central won't last long. Diamond network value ticket will no doubt decrease with no services going to Stourbridge which one may regard as one of the places to go in West Midlands.
Have always found that the 142 was well patronised, problem is that the route doesn't work on its own.
Presumably Central will run 1 bus on the route, problem is timings are so tight (especially when there are road works etc) that the journeys will just get later and later all day.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 26, 2017, 08:16:45 PM
Have always found that the 142 was well patronised, problem is that the route doesn't work on its own.
Presumably Central will run 1 bus on the route, problem is timings are so tight (especially when there are road works etc) that the journeys will just get later and later all day.
Shortening the route is also going to cause a loss of passengers. So it's not going along Dunstall road at all???
20813 was on 142
Barack diamond dart broken down on 142 again
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 27, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
Barack diamond dart broken down on 142 again
Who's Barack? 😂😂
Quote from: Cedric on April 27, 2017, 12:06:02 PM
think they mean black Will
Or arriva and it auto corrected
Arrivas darts are certainly better than diamonds...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 03, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
Arrivas darts are certainly better than diamonds...
Apparently there not! The only good bus that Diamond had off Arriva was the X reg Cadet!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 03, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
Arrivas darts are certainly better than diamonds...
21007 is withdrawn already, must have be one for spares?
Quote from: Will on May 03, 2017, 06:25:04 PM
Apparently there not! The only good bus that Diamond had off Arriva was the X reg Cadet!!
I went on one with urban 90 seats they certainly have a lot more power and go in them
Arriva darts are far better than diamonds they have been very well looked after compared to the diamond ones.
The lj51 plates are certainly beasts, sound Euro 2 aswell
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 10:13:21 AM
The lj51 plates are certainly beasts, sound Euro 2 aswell
If they are the buses I think they are,they were refurbished in London before being cascaded out.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 10:13:21 AM
The lj51 plates are certainly beasts, sound Euro 2 aswell
Definitely not Euro 2
Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2017, 11:08:56 AM
Definitely not Euro 2
I know but that they sound like they are if you get what I mean?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 04:52:42 PM
I know but that they sound like they are if you get what I mean?
So you think you can tell a Euro rating by the noise it makes?
Really?
Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
So you think you can tell a Euro rating by the noise it makes?
Really?
I'm sure others know what I mean..
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 06:46:44 PM
I'm sure others know what I mean..
nobody on this earth knows what your on about
At least you stopped whinging about 244 running late
Yayy!!
@Trident 4194 spouting his endless bullcrap again if it's not that the 9's are running late in Halesowen it has to be something else 😴
So can he tell which ALX400s/Geminis are Euro 6 and which are Euro 3 by the sound inside?
Quote from: MW on May 04, 2017, 08:39:06 PM
So can he tell which ALX400s/Geminis are Euro 6 and which are Euro 3 by the sound inside?
Nope but I'm saying that those lj51 ex arriva darts sound very much like the ones that diamond withdrew due to being non dda. Like 20573?? Either way they have distinctive different engine sound to diamond darts
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Nope but I'm saying that those lj51 ex arriva darts sound very much like the ones that diamond withdrew due to being non dda. Like 20573?? Either way they have distinctive different engine sound to diamond darts
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
There's your difference euro 2 is 1996 to 1999, euro 3 is 2000 to 2004.... so the ex Arriva is euro 3 standard at the minimum unless altered by operators that have had the bus after the original purchase
Quote from: Chris on May 04, 2017, 09:05:25 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
There's your difference euro 2 is 1996 to 1999, euro 3 is 2000 to 2004.... so the ex Arriva is euro 3 standard at the minimum unless altered by operators that have had the bus after the original purchase
Is it just different gearbox then??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2017, 09:50:44 PM
Is it just different gearbox then??
No, both types have Allison gearboxes.
Could it not be a different engine? Or maybe one engine is knackered?
21003 21004 21005 6 cylinder engine
21001 21002 have the 4 cylinder engine
Noticed a ex arriva bus on 42 earlier
All they done was replace arriva logo with diamond lol
20736 is on 17 in halesowen 20979 is on 40 service
Where the x reg cadet allocated to?
Quote from: vinh1000 on May 05, 2017, 11:04:23 PM
Noticed a ex arriva bus on 42 earlier
All they done was replace arriva logo with diamond lol
And? What else were they going to do at this stage? Couldn't reapint them this quick
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 06, 2017, 10:05:42 AM
Where the x reg cadet allocated to?
Why don't you just look on the main site?
I spend hours a month trying to keep information on there to make it easy to answer simple questions
Quote from: Tony on May 06, 2017, 10:28:08 AM
Why don't you just look on the main site?
I spend hours a month trying to keep information on there to make it easy to answer simple questions
Apologies I meant the route.
Are they going to repaint the ex Arrivas eventually or will they join the queue behind the Red & Black Diamonds?
20737 on 17 in halesowen aorry should be 20736
Quote from: Solo1 on May 06, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
20737 on 17 in halesowen
One thing I don't understand is why the tendered routes need to be Euro 5? What's so special about tendered routes? They carry 0 passengers majority of time
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 06, 2017, 09:56:08 PM
One thing I don't understand is why the tendered routes need to be Euro 5? What's so special about tendered routes? They carry 0 passengers majority of time
Because that's what TfWM now specify & are paying for. Whether they carry fresh air or are full, it still has a baring on air quality / pollution
Had to smile at the 301 driver tonight.
'Is this Leamore?' , he said, as I came to stand by him to get off.
I replied, 'As far as here', indicating the Leisure Centre, 'then its Bloxwich'.
I continued ' You're not from round here are you?'
'I'm a Brummie!' , he replied., even though he was of Indian origin.(which I wasnt refering to!)
'Yes, but you're not from 'round here' are you?', I replied.
'I've been all over, Dudley, Birmingham, West Bromwich!', he replied.
Hearing Dudley mentioned, I replied, ' Come back on the Walsall to Dudley route please. Thandi are crap!'
Doesn't seem to be a single 002 branded bus on 002 today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2017, 01:59:15 PM
Doesn't seem to be a single 002 branded bus on 002 today
There's only 2 now
Been on 30929 what a fast brilliant bus. Certainly been fixed of the isuues of hills
Good to see they've repainted an ex arriva dart
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 25, 2017, 11:54:34 AM
Good to see they've repainted an ex arriva dart
SK52 MLF (Formerly 2269 at Arriva)
An Arriva liveried dart was on the Erdington to Ward End, The Fox and Goose 25 today.
First time i've seen one on there, looks strange seeing one at the Fox and Goose.
Did a trip earlier to Mossley on 30409 on the 301. I noticed that this vehicle now has Wi-Fi fitted. Any idea how long this vehicle has had Wi-Fi fitted for? As I've never noticed it, even though I've been on it a number of times.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 28, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Did a trip earlier to Mossley on 30409 on the 301. I noticed that this vehicle now has Wi-Fi fitted. Any idea how long this vehicle has had Wi-Fi fitted for? As I've never noticed it, even though I've been on it a number of times.
Several other vehicles have the same notice. 30407 & one of the 3094* B7RLE's
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 28, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
Did a trip earlier to Mossley on 30409 on the 301. I noticed that this vehicle now has Wi-Fi fitted. Any idea how long this vehicle has had Wi-Fi fitted for? As I've never noticed it, even though I've been on it a number of times.
New I'd imagine! Would be good to see Rotala roll out WiFi on at least the higher spec Value/Royale/newer B7RLE's.
Anyone tried using contactless on the new ticket machines yet?
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 28, 2017, 07:31:32 PM
Anyone tried using contactless on the new ticket machines yet?
Yes it worked ok and is a good idea.
Quote from: Nathan on May 28, 2017, 07:31:22 PM
Several other vehicles have the same notice. 30407 & one of the 3094* B7RLE's
I've been told 10 have been done apparently. Not sure which ones though.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 28, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
I've been told 10 have been done apparently. Not sure which ones though.
16 buses are being fitted with wi-fi to begin with and these vehicles are supposed to be used on the 4/4h route
A credit to the diamond team was the driver in arriva uniform driving 4H today. I take my word back about arriva drivers if they all are like him
Turns out not all drivers know how to work their new posh contactless machines as the driver of 20845 has just proven to me. Not slating as I got a free journey out of it (something I wouldn't normally be so joyous about). He didn't even think they did contactless which is the funny thing considering it's plastered all over their buses.
Wonder if diamond monthly ticket sales have decreased with the 142 being axed, with 2 crucial areas no longer covered on their network.
Wonder who been winning the competition on the 4H?
Ex arriva bus was on 12 at 10:05
By 11:05 they had got a solo on well done
Arriva bus back on 12 by 15:30. Do they get fined for this?
30215 is on the 40 today.
Do Tividale vehicles have access to Kiddy displays?
Just saw '302 Hales Park via Bewdley' on an out of service vehicle in Leamore!
Quote from: Westy on June 26, 2017, 06:56:18 AM
Do Tividale vehicles have access to Kiddy displays?
Just saw '302 Hales Park via Bewdley' on an out of service vehicle in Leamore!
Mobitec have all 3 depots destinations on them
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 24, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
Ex arriva bus was on 12 at 10:05
By 11:05 they had got a solo on well done
Arriva bus back on 12 by 15:30. Do they get fined for this?
Why would they? For putting one of their buses on one of their routes?
Quote from: Kevin on June 26, 2017, 07:39:33 AM
Why would they? For putting one of their buses on one of their routes?
Thought the contract/ tender required 60/10 reg solos
To solve the problem over what tenders required
Tenders specified since April 2017 have had in them that they must give a price for non Euro V as well as Euro V
They were all assessed on the Euro V price
They were all let on the Euro V price with the condition that Euro V is allocated to the routes within 6 months
There was a MAN / Centro with route route 40 on the LED's hooked up to the Totals tow truck, saw it by Russell's Hall Hospital heading towards Kingswinford, Kiddi bound poss??
I thought that al Diamond Solos were Just branded aw Diamond well I'm wrong I saw ??54BUF still in Blue Diamond Livery On the 65 as I was walking back from Darlaston Town Centre and last week saw a Red Diamond branded Dart on either the 310 or 65 from down School Street. Also Solo's seem to be the allocation on the 310 now
Quote from: BusFan94 on June 30, 2017, 08:39:13 PM
I thought that al Diamond Solos were Just branded aw Diamond well I'm wrong I saw ??54BUF still in Blue Diamond Livery On the 65 as I was walking back from Darlaston Town Centre and last week saw a Red Diamond branded Dart on either the 310 or 65 from down School Street. Also Solo's seem to be the allocation on the 310 now
20837 is the one with the "Blue Diamond" logo. They're still yet to remove the "Blue" part of the logo.
Services operated from Redditch used to be Red Diamond, Long Arce used to be Central Connect then later Blue Diamond, Tividale used to be Black Diamond and services around Solihull signatute (they are still signature services, but only a couple of the buses are in the signature livery now).
Quote from: BusFan94 on June 30, 2017, 08:39:13 PM
I thought that al Diamond Solos were Just branded aw Diamond well I'm wrong I saw ??54BUF still in Blue Diamond Livery On the 65 as I was walking back from Darlaston Town Centre and last week saw a Red Diamond branded Dart on either the 310 or 65 from down School Street. Also Solo's seem to be the allocation on the 310 now
Diamond still have number of vehicles in both black and red, not forgetting the Ex Arriva buses which still need repainting. It will still be a while until Diamond are completely one livery colour.
Quote from: 2206 on June 30, 2017, 08:45:39 PM
20837 is the one with the "Blue Diamond" logo. They're still yet to remove the "Blue" part of the logo.
Services operated from Redditch used to be Red Diamond, Long Arce used to be Central Connect then later Blue Diamond, Tividale used to be Black Diamond and services around Solihull signatute (they are still signature services, but only a couple of the buses are in the signature livery now).
Streetlites on Signature will be getting a bit of Signature branding
Ex Arriva 21008 now in blue.
Wonder if diamond plan on expanding the amount of services the monthly ticket is valid on. Especially as the 142 was withdrawn, surely the 13 and 17 should be accepted
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
Wonder if diamond plan on expanding the amount of services the monthly ticket is valid on. Especially as the 142 was withdrawn, surely the 13 and 17 should be accepted
The 13 & 17 are tendered services, if you're referring to 'Value' monthly tickets, they are valid on commercial services only
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 01:12:20 PM
The 13 & 17 are tendered services, if you're referring to 'Value' monthly tickets, they are valid on commercial services only
Oh I see thanks for that information. That makes a lot of sense now
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 01:12:20 PM
The 13 & 17 are tendered services, if you're referring to 'Value' monthly tickets, they are valid on commercial services only
Which is quite interesting as one of the on/off Value routes, the 226 has tendered and commercial journeys
4 and 4H now branded on B7RLEs in purple similar to the 002 and 25 branding
Quote from: John on July 17, 2017, 02:24:00 PM
4 and 4H now branded on B7RLEs in purple similar to the 002 and 25 branding
These in process of being done? Haven't seen any today branded? Wish they would actually complete the 002 branding as much as I like seeing an 02 branded e300 on the 002 everyday they are quite old for a fairly key route
Quote from: John on July 17, 2017, 02:24:00 PM
4 and 4H now branded on B7RLEs in purple similar to the 002 and 25 branding
30942 is one complete as well as a value branded b7RLE. Looks better than the 002 branding
Does anybody what buses operate the 303 From Willenhall to Bilston and How often does it run as I plan to get it just to see what route it goes and see if it is any good
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 21, 2017, 05:33:52 PM
Does anybody what buses operate the 303 From Willenhall to Bilston and How often does it run as I plan to get it just to see what route it goes and see if it is any good
Network West Midlands or diamond website will give you that information.
Cheers
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 21, 2017, 05:33:52 PM
Does anybody what buses operate the 303 From Willenhall to Bilston and How often does it run as I plan to get it just to see what route it goes and see if it is any good
It's an hourly service departing Bilston on the hour. 21001 was allocated to it every day this week
Ok does it run on Saturdays or Sundays and what time is the last bus
Monday to Saturday's only
http://www.diamondbuses.com/services/WestMidlands_5/303-CountyBridgetoBilston_104.html
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 22, 2017, 06:17:47 PM
Ok does it run on Saturdays or Sundays and what time is the last bus
@BusFan94 you can answer a lot of your own questions and get quicker answers by looking on the Network West Midlands website:
https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables
20975 on 142 today. I'm not a fan of these streetlites
In Halesowen bus station there have been 2 different b7rles parked in the layover bit. Have we got an extra bus on the 002 now?
20975 on the 12 this morning.
Unfit at Tiv today:
20828
1550
884
924
879
888 taken away for new engine
818
882
823
602
886
489
883
922
Quote from: Kevin2017 on September 01, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
Unfit at Tiv today:
20828
1550
884
924
879
888 taken away for new engine
818
882
823
602
886
489
883
922
Some of those fleetnumbers aren't correct:
20818 is a Fire Damaged Solo & is parked over the road with the scrappers (I suspect you mean Primo 20812 instead)
30488 E300 (not 489) - Accident damaged VOR
30824 B7RLE Royale (not 924) - Long term VOR
30884 B7RLE Long term VOR (Parked in front of 30824)
Quote from: Kevin2017 on September 01, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
Unfit at Tiv today:
20828
1550
884
924
879
888 taken away for new engine
818
882
823
602
886
489
883
922
30924? Might be easier to quote the 5 digit Rotala numbering scheme!
I just posted what I saw on the parking plan from last night that's all, they write the 3 last fleet digits not the whole 5 numbers which baffled me aswell!
Quote from: Kevin2017 on September 01, 2017, 01:08:16 PM
I just posted what I saw on the parking plan from last night that's all, they write the 3 last fleet digits not the whole 5 numbers which baffled me aswell!
It depends on which inspector has done the yard plan to be honest some write the full numbers some don't.
So diamond value month tickets aren't valid on the 004...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 05, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
So diamond value month tickets aren't valid on the 004...
Because its not a Diamond Value service.
The Diamond website states Diamond value tickets are valid on the, 002, 4, 4H, 16, 16W, 29, 40, 42, 43, 50, 142, 226, 301, 302 and 401E only.
http://www.diamondbuses.com/services/WestMidlands_5/50-BirminghamtoMaypole_87.html - see the tickets page.
Quote from: 2206 on September 05, 2017, 06:56:00 PM
Because its not a Diamond Value service.
The Diamond website states Diamond value tickets are valid on the, 002, 4, 4H, 16, 16W, 29, 40, 42, 43, 50, 142, 226, 301, 302 and 401E only.
http://www.diamondbuses.com/services/WestMidlands_5/50-BirminghamtoMaypole_87.html - see the tickets page.
Yes but considering they withdrew the 142 with no replacement one would have thought they would have made the 004 a value service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 05, 2017, 07:17:52 PM
Yes but considering they withdrew the 142 with no replacement one would have thought they would have made the 004 a value service
What's the point when it's been withdrawn 2nd Oct
Ks03 solo and FX04 solo on 004 today
20531 on 257/142. Should do 1950 142 off stourbridge
30888 back in use with a brand new engine
Streetlite-004( the newest vehicle to operate the 004 ever?)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 15, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
Streetlite-004( the newest vehicle to operate the 004 ever?)
No it's a 11 plate, so no its not. The 004 has seen newer Hansons E200s.
Quote from: 2206 on September 15, 2017, 05:21:26 PM
No it's a 11 plate, so no its not. The 004 has seen newer Hansons E200s.
Forgot about the e200s
20726-17
Is 30215 and 3021* allocated to specific routes?
Ex Hanson 2571 on 226 today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 08, 2017, 01:19:01 PM
Is 30215 and 3021* allocated to specific routes?
They're allocated to any full size Single Deck routes, 4/H, 40, 42/43 etc. 30215 is often on the 40/42/43
@Trident 4194
I pictured X781 NWX on the 002 in Halesowen on 23rd August 2017. So it seems it does go everywhere. https://flic.kr/p/YQyiVR
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 08, 2017, 01:19:01 PM
Is 30215 allocated to specific routes?
It is on the 40, just leaving Paul Street in Wednesbury for West Brom.
Shame Diamond only had one Ex Arriva Cadet, they are way better than Diamonds original examples!
Quote from: Jack on October 09, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
It is on the 40, just leaving Paul Street in Wednesbury for West Brom.
Shame Diamond only had one Ex Arriva Cadet, they are way better than Diamonds original examples!
Diamonds finest cadet in my opinion was 30218- such a lovely bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 09, 2017, 05:47:19 PM
Diamonds finest cadet in my opinion was 30218- such a lovely bus
I never rode that one, but I often saw it dumped in Walsall Bus Station several years ago. 30201 and 30215 are the better ones.
Quote from: Jack on October 09, 2017, 06:04:55 PM
I never rode that one, but I often saw it dumped in Walsall Bus Station several years ago. 30201 and 30215 are the better ones.
It was ex Ludlow so always going to be my favourite along with the greatest seat moquette ever invented
Looks as though Tividale may be losing one or more Volvo/Wright to Atherton (30862):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/36958349724/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Winston on October 13, 2017, 09:42:38 PM
Looks as though Tividale may be losing one or more Volvo/Wright to Atherton (30862):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/36958349724/in/dateposted/
Transferred on Wednesday
Quote from: 4747 on October 13, 2017, 10:02:59 PM
Transferred on Wednesday
Is it a one off? Or are more meant to be moving?
I'd have thought that lone MAN/Meridian (30534) at KR might have been a better option to transfer I.e. remove a type at KR & re-unite with 3 x identical sister vehicles already at Atherton.
I also understand that there are more ex Wessex Centro's parked over in John St
The plaxton bodied centros(30807-30811/30816) need some serious mechanical attention. Every time I go one and it's a different one everytime the driver has to turn the engine off and then turn it back on. Their power seems minimal.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 11:54:39 AM
The plaxton bodied centros(30807-30811/30816) need some serious mechanical attention. Every time I go one and it's a different one everytime the driver has to turn the engine off and then turn it back on. Their power seems minimal.
there has been a few single deckers brokedown at merry hill the last couple of weeks the drivers say the buses keep going into limp mode
Quote from: karl724223 on October 14, 2017, 02:10:09 PM
there has been a few single deckers brokedown at merry hill the last couple of weeks the drivers say the buses keep going into limp mode
Do you know what caused them to go into limp mode?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
Do you know what caused them to go into limp mode?
In a nutshell, poor maintenance
Quote from: MW on October 14, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
In a nutshell, poor maintenance
It's strange how it's just the plaxton bodied centros. For example the value branded buses are in excellent condition and older than them.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 08:47:39 PM
It's strange how it's just the plaxton bodied centros. For example the value branded buses are in excellent condition and older than them.
Are the broken down ones Volvos? I remember the VDL examples at Redditch being barely able to move. I was route training the number 70 and the VDL Centro was in limp mode for the whole route.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
Do you know what caused them to go into limp mode?
like been said by mw poor maintainence
Quote from: karl724223 on October 14, 2017, 09:16:11 PM
like been said by mw poor maintainence
I bet half the drivers don't report the problems
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 09:44:48 PM
I bet half the drivers don't report the problems
Nope. As far as I'm aware, they do. They just get signed off by the engineers as fit for device, presumably as their on a limited budget.
Vehicles in the stored yard at Tividale yesterday were,11518,20100,20206,20366,20518,20527,20529,20536,20544,20601,20818,20823,20842,20849,20852,21002,21005,21010,,,,,,,30003,30209,30213,30214,30384,30401,30502,30509,30824,30935,
+ 1 unidentified Wessex liveried e200.
Over the road there were 3 regal coaches solos 2 of them were YJ60KHA & YJ60KHC
@midlandred2003 The Wessex E200 is 20820, I take it the Hallmark Mercedes Tourismo has gone from infront of the gates.
There was no sign of that, there was one other vehicle there I believe it was C001 BG09??? don't have my list to check at the moment.
It was BG06ATY...
Calling all diamond experts, I have left my bag in the 19.50 257 to Dudley, does it do an 82 after or return to Stourbridge on the 257?
Been told 30215 has sadly been withdrawn from service today.
Quote from: Jack on October 30, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
Been told 30215 has sadly been withdrawn from service today.
It was taken off the road last Saturday
Quote from: 4747 on October 31, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
It was taken off the road last Saturday
It wasn't down as withdrawn then, it was sitting in the yard just in case it was needed, ot entered the withdrawn fleet yesterday.
Quote from: Jack on October 31, 2017, 01:21:43 PM
It wasn't down as withdrawn then, it was sitting in the yard just in case it was needed, ot entered the withdrawn fleet yesterday.
It was out of VI and marked as off fleet at the depot on Saturday. It could not be used Saturday unless VI'd first.
MOT on it has gone and will not be renewed!
Few 002s forgetting to change destination displays today
20051 - YJ60 KHA is a new vehicle at Tividale, was on the 223 earlier.
Solo M790SL, seating is B26F
21007 is going around with a non working speedometer.
21001 also has a non working sppedmeter.
Both are on the 54
20002 on 4H I believe
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 11, 2017, 04:09:03 PM
20002 on 4H I believe
30213 (I think, one of the Black Diamond Cadets) was on the either a 4/H. Saw it on All Saints Way, the first one I've seen on it for a while.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 08, 2017, 01:19:01 PM
Is 30215 and 3021* allocated to specific routes?
Just 30201 and 30211 left in Service now. Quite sad, just two are left, 30211's days must be numbered now as it's the only '02' plate left running. 30201 will probably soldier on for another few years.
Quote from: Jack on November 13, 2017, 05:06:13 PM
Just 30201 and 30211 left in Service now. Quite sad, just two are left, 30211's days must be numbered now as it's the only '02' plate left running. 30201 will probably soldier in for another few years.
They were excellent buses
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 13, 2017, 05:31:01 PM
They were excellent buses
Better than an `03` Plate Solo any day.
At least two are still in service, but I doubt 30211 will last long.
20738 was today's 68A/C and the driver was smoking in the cab. Made an unpleasant journey. Horrible.
Quote from: Jack on November 18, 2017, 04:36:47 PM
20738 was today's 68A/C and the driver was smoking in the cab. Made an unpleasant journey. Horrible.
Let's hope Mr Dunn is reading this then?
Is 20745 a different solo to the other *35-44* batch? It sounds more dart engined and a lot quicker
Anyone seen 20056 today one of the new solos
Is EX hansons 1512 still in scrap yard or has it gone to scrap
From NW thread to save clogging that up....
Quote from: Lukeee on November 27, 2017, 10:32:38 AM
Does the bus on the 68A/C get swapped during the day as twice I've spotted both a streetlite and a solo on the route (both occasions where on Saturdays so could be a Saturday only thing)
I think actually yes, something about the 25 going on to the 68 when it's finished, maybe a morning one and afternoon one
Maybe even 3 come to think of it, daytime separate as well
20056-13 great bus
Bit of excitement around the corner from me this morning.
Diamond service 302 vehicle catching fire in Bloxwich Road, Leamore!
2005* solos on the 13 and 24
A new very small solo was on the 17 today, similar seating to 20844 but in blue. Seat belts also
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 02, 2018, 08:42:28 PM
A new very small solo was on the 17 today, similar seating to 20844 but in blue. Seat belts also
Was on the 226 New Year's Eve, quite a nifty little bus
Quote from: Chris on January 02, 2018, 09:19:03 PM
Was on the 226 New Year's Eve, quite a nifty little bus
On the 17 route it's capacibilities weren't really tested
A white solo new version seen on the 230 today unable to read reg to far away.
Quote from: midlandred2003 on January 12, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
A white solo new version seen on the 230 today unable to read reg to far away.
I understand there may be at least 3 currently at Tividale, only one has been identified so far as 20881 YJ62FJK.
I assume you meant route 231?
Yes sorry 231 and just been and checked it is 20881
Quote from: midlandred2003 on January 12, 2018, 01:46:01 PM
Yes sorry 231 and just been and checked it is 20881
The un ID'd white Solo SR on the 54 must be it's first day in service then.
Are diamond preparing for some more routes then with an influx of buses as of late, or are that's replacing older vehicles?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 13, 2018, 08:38:43 PM
Are diamond preparing for some more routes then with an influx of buses as of late, or are that's replacing older vehicles?
Think they're modernising the fleet / increasing the number of Euro 5 buses they have available
20885 CX10AUP
20881 YJ62FJK
20882 YJ62FJY
20883 YJ62FKK
20884 YJ62FKT
Yes, all Birmingham Buses need to be Euro 5 by 2020.
Bob, is replacing the next few Darts when the MOT runs out.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 12:14:27 AM
20885 CX10AUP
20881 YJ62FJK
20882 YJ62FJY
20883 YJ62FKK
20884 YJ62FKT
Yes, all Birmingham Buses need to be Euro 5 by 2020.
Bob, is replacing the next few Darts when the MOT runs out.
I assume that means that some of the 16/16W & 50 allocated buses will need replacing in the not too distant future. As Tividale only has the 6 x 09 plate Volvo/Centro (30822/3/4-8 ex Royales), 30880/1 & 4 x 13 plate Volvo/Wright (30942/3 are obviously branded for the 4/4H) that will comply.
Any hint of any new or nearly used full size buses being acquired for Diamond during this year?
Looks like 20884 is currently on loan to Redditch:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99180483@N03/27892159019
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 12:14:27 AM
20885 CX10AUP
20881 YJ62FJK
20882 YJ62FJY
20883 YJ62FKK
20884 YJ62FKT
Yes, all Birmingham Buses need to be Euro 5 by 2020.
Bob, is replacing the next few Darts when the MOT runs out.
All Birmingham buses need to be Euro 6 by 2020 not Euro 5, so these purchases will be no good for the 16 & 50. I believe TfWM are going to specify tenders at Euro 6 as well
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 09:12:17 AM
All Birmingham buses need to be Euro 6 by 2020 not Euro 5, so these purchases will be no good for the 16 & 50. I believe TfWM are going to specify tenders at Euro 6 as well
One thing I will never understand is the specification of high Euro buses for routes which essentially carry no one. Leather seat solos put on the tendered routes, not exactly any point. As for Euro 6 buses by 2020 this is just going to minimise competition for the likes of nx who are the only ones that can afford the ridiculous prices of new buses. Absolutely crap what has happened to this region.
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 09:12:17 AM
All Birmingham buses need to be Euro 6 by 2020 not Euro 5, so these purchases will be no good for the 16 & 50. I believe TfWM are going to specify tenders at Euro 6 as well
Thats interesting.
I assume Nx has or will have Euro 6 vehicles by then?
Nx will probably end up with all the evening & Sunday tenders!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 09:30:33 AM
One thing I will never understand is the specification of high Euro buses for routes which essentially carry no one. Leather seat solos put on the tendered routes, not exactly any point. As for Euro 6 buses by 2020 this is just going to minimise competition for the likes of nx who are the only ones that can afford the ridiculous prices of new buses. Absolutely crap what has happened to this region.
Talking rubbish again. So it's alright for buses to pollute the atmosphere which is causing some early deaths if they're not carrying many people? You don't have to buy new buses to meet Euro 6. Pensnett's 44xx tridents meet the new rules at 14 years old. I would think there will be second hand buses coming out of London by 2020 with Euro 6 traps.
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 09:47:39 AM
Talking rubbish again. So it's alright for buses to pollute the atmosphere which is causing some early deaths if they're not carrying many people? You don't have to buy new buses to meet Euro 6. Pensnett's 44xx tridents meet the new rules at 14 years old. I would think there will be second hand buses coming out of London by 2020 with Euro 6 traps.
It's not that simple though is it. With the current state of the economy things are going to be far more expensive. Expect the prices of imports to increase, which could be an option if you select brand new buses. Whilst the PN 44** tridents had upgrades, are you sure that all buses could follow a similar suit? Also I guarantee that across the UK not all buses will have to be Euro 6 in town centres, the whole business of making the government look like there doing something by reducing co2 emmisions in birimingham, whilst the rest of the Midlands is likely to be operated by darts, The correlation regarding co2 and deaths is questionable
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 09:12:17 AM
All Birmingham buses need to be Euro 6 by 2020 not Euro 5, so these purchases will be no good for the 16 & 50. I believe TfWM are going to specify tenders at Euro 6 as well
That's good news for the Tividale then! i.e. in terms of receiving new full size buses, can't see the 16/16W or 50 being withdrawn as Central Connect did with the 17, 37, 97 to avoid buying newer compliant buses.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 09:30:33 AM
One thing I will never understand is the specification of high Euro buses for routes which essentially carry no one. Leather seat solos put on the tendered routes, not exactly any point. As for Euro 6 buses by 2020 this is just going to minimise competition for the likes of nx who are the only ones that can afford the ridiculous prices of new buses. Absolutely crap what has happened to this region.
It doesn't matter whether a bus is carrying 1 or 30 passengers, It's still pumping out the same level of harmful pollutants that we all breathe in. At least the system encorages operators to invest in fleet replacement as can be seen by Diamond buy used Euro 5 Optare Solos in quantity, long gone are the days when bus companies can buy a fleet of smokey Leyland Nationals or breadvans etc.
You should also find that cost of providing Euro 5 buses (currently) on TfWM routes is built in to the price.
Even with Euro 6 Diamond could just upgrade the exhaust systems on existing B7RLE's, it doesn't have to be brand new...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 10:10:00 AM
It's not that simple though is it. With the current state of the economy things are going to be far more expensive. Expect the prices of imports to increase, which could be an option if you select brand new buses. Whilst the PN 44** tridents had upgrades, are you sure that all buses could follow a similar suit? Also I guarantee that across the UK not all buses will have to be Euro 6 in town centres, the whole business of making the government look like there doing something by reducing co2 emmisions in birimingham, whilst the rest of the Midlands is likely to be operated by darts, The correlation regarding co2 and deaths is questionable
Who's on about CO2?
Euro 6 is about Nitrous Oxide and particulates and there is proof those are causing deaths
All this Euro 4, 5, 6 stuff is killing bus industry for drivers and enthusiasts, TFL waste too much money on new buses, what's wrong with the current ones? same like Nat Ex, why do we need MMC, with no power, no sounds, that the ALX Give etc, when they can be upgraded with all sorts and we would still get the same power and noise from them..
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 09:12:17 AM
All Birmingham buses need to be Euro 6 by 2020 not Euro 5, so these purchases will be no good for the 16 & 50. I believe TfWM are going to specify tenders at Euro 6 as well
That's what national express have committed to not other operators 😂😂
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 06:13:45 PM
All this Euro 4, 5, 6 stuff is killing bus industry for drivers and enthusiasts, TFL waste too much money on new buses, what's wrong with the current ones? same like Nat Ex, why do we need MMC, with no power, no sounds, that the ALX Give etc, when they can be upgraded with all sorts and we would still get the same power and noise from them..
They're old, increasingly more unreliable & drink more fuel than newer lighter weight models.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
That's what national express have committed to not other operators 😂😂
No, all operators that enter the City Centre.
Quote from: Winston on January 14, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
They're old, increasingly more unreliable & drink more fuel than newer lighter weight models.
Most days Wolverhampton manage to run a full run out of their ALXs etc, so that says something.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 06:23:48 PM
Most days Wolverhampton manage to run a full run out of their ALXs etc, so that says something.
Can't argue with that statement, it would be interesting to see the difference in maintenance costs & mpg between a Trident & E400 MMC.
However, on the other hand you'll also notice that Tridents are no longer used on Sundays on any WN routes. Newer more fuel efficient models are the preferred choice.
Quote from: 2206 on January 14, 2018, 06:22:35 PM
No, all operators that enter the City Centre.
These rules are beneficial to nx. Try getting an existing operator like social travel to find the costs to upgrade a dart or buy a new bus. Only nx can afford to withdraw buses and get new ones, and that's only because they are part of the larger group. Look at the amount of platinums. Totally uneccessary
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 14, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
That's what national express have committed to not other operators 😂😂
I think you will find all operators are committed to it. With additional areas getting AQPS rules, Solihull is next, there won't be anywhere for people to use polluting buses soon
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 06:48:52 PM
These rules are beneficial to nx. Try getting an existing operator like social travel to find the costs to upgrade a dart or buy a new bus. Only nx can afford to withdraw buses and get new ones, and that's only because they are part of the larger group. Look at the amount of platinums. Totally uneccessary
beneifcial to NX? How? Part of this decision came from the Andy Street, as one of his main focuses was on air quality.
Quote from: Dom on January 14, 2018, 06:55:12 PM
beneifcial to NX? How? Part of this decision came from the Andy Street, as one of his main focuses was on air quality.
Reduce nx competition- small independent won't be able to operate with such high spec vehicles.
I'm guessing that there'll be no restrictions on the 11? If I was an independant, I'd look into joining forces with other indepedants and take on the Outer Circle.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 06:58:29 PM
Reduce nx competition- small independent won't be able to operate with such high spec vehicles.
Diamond are upgrading / increasing their proportion of Euro 5 buses without buying new, they provide the most competition for NX.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 06:58:29 PM
Reduce nx competition- small independent won't be able to operate with such high spec vehicles.
So just kill people then?
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 07:26:56 PM
So just kill people then?
Other ways of reducing deaths you know.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 14, 2018, 07:51:34 PM
Other ways of reducing deaths you know.
So you saying it's ok to kill people with poor air quality if you reduce another way people die?
And just so someone can use an unmodified ancient bus?
After Brexit do you think the uk government will continue with Euro 7 or introduce a UK version?
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
So you saying it's ok to kill people with poor air quality if you reduce another way people die?
And just so someone can use an unmodified ancient bus?
Thing is, it can't even be close to possible that most of the emissions that cause said pollution come from buses alone.
This is what p*sses me off about these LEZs, they aren't that. Ancient, and I mean, ancient, cars and taxis can still be used, yet the second an unmodified bus enters the city, god help that operator!
If that was me in the position of the mayor, the first thing I'd be working on, to tackle the air pollution, is either reducing the number of cars in the city, or reducing the number of polluting cars, make cars and taxis (possibly lorries as well) abide to the same Euro 4/5/6 standard that buses have to.
But hey, that's one way to lose public support... because they'll only support you as long as they get the benefits, but not lose anything at all. ::). Same people who claim "we pay taxes, therefore we can have a 1995 Ford Focus which speed out half it's exhaust every time I pull away, because that doesnt affect air quality at all..." probably, as well...
Also, to a previous point, the ex GHA Solos were likely bought for simply being compliant, rather than having a high spec interior.
Quote from: Alex on January 15, 2018, 02:21:47 AM
(possibly lorries as well) abide to the same Euro 4/5/6 standard that buses have to.
But hey, that's one way to lose public support... because they'll only support you as long as they get the benefits, but not lose anything at all. ::). Same people who claim "we pay taxes, therefore we can have a 1995 Ford Focus which speed out half it's exhaust every time I pull away, because that doesnt affect air quality at all..." probably, as well...
Lorries do have Euro 4/5/6 engines and you can't buy a 1995 ford focus, ford still produced the escort then
Quote from: Alex on January 15, 2018, 02:21:47 AM
But hey, that's one way to lose public support... because they'll only support you as long as they get the benefits, but not lose anything at all. ::). Same people who claim "we pay taxes, therefore we can have a 1995 Ford Focus which speed out half it's exhaust every time I pull away, because that doesnt affect air quality at all..." probably, as well...
You're right about Public support, but you have it the wrong way around. You look anytime the Birmingham Mail or Express & Star publish a story about poor air quality and you get loads of comments underneath about 'Dirty Smelly Buses' Because there are still old buses on the road black smoking the public see one and lump all buses into the same category.
To get public support buses need to be clean, then people will start picking on the other vehicles
Quote from: Tony on January 15, 2018, 10:51:50 AM
You're right about Public support, but you have it the wrong way around. You look anytime the Birmingham Mail or Express & Star publish a story about poor air quality and you get loads of comments underneath about 'Dirty Smelly Buses' Because there are still old buses on the road black smoking the public see one and lump all buses into the same category.
To get public support buses need to be clean, then people will start picking on the other vehicles
Car drivers most likely will never convert to a bus. There slower, less direct, and usually involve walking, all of which car drivers envy. Bus passengers also don't care about what Euro engine the bus has got as long as it gets from A to B. Whilst the buses may be clean emissions looking at the interiors of buses says otherwise. Always cans rolling around, never going to expect a increase in passengers. Trains on the other hand are usually different.
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2018, 06:51:57 PM
I think you will find all operators are committed to it. With additional areas getting AQPS rules, Solihull is next, there won't be anywhere for people to use polluting buses soon
Maybe, but still doesn't stop knackered old vehicles being used, and they come from the 'dominant operator' !
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
Car drivers most likely will never convert to a bus. There slower, less direct, and usually involve walking, all of which car drivers envy. Bus passengers also don't care about what Euro engine the bus has got as long as it gets from A to B. Whilst the buses may be clean emissions looking at the interiors of buses says otherwise. Always cans rolling around, never going to expect a increase in passengers. Trains on the other hand are usually different.
Most will always stick to the car as 1st choice, it's the most convenient option, some may be tempted to switch if things improve. As part of QPS scheme, if Birmingham City Council really want to change things, as well as improving public transport by raising standards / new investment / making it more convenient via bus operators, BCC will also need to be radical & make it difficult for cars/vans/lorries to enter the City Centre / hike parking charges, create park & ride sites / re-intestate bus lanes or have bus only roads. That's something which BCC have consistently failed to do, the opposite in fact in terms of bus services, these have been pushed further out of the City Centre by the Metro which currently only benefits only a milted number of people.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
Car drivers most likely will never convert to a bus. There slower, less direct, and usually involve walking, all of which car drivers envy. Bus passengers also don't care about what Euro engine the bus has got as long as it gets from A to B. Whilst the buses may be clean emissions looking at the interiors of buses says otherwise. Always cans rolling around, never going to expect a increase in passengers. Trains on the other hand are usually different.
Can you talk in reality please.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
There slower, less direct, and usually involve walking, all of which car drivers envy
Car drivers envy walking?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
Always cans rolling around, never going to expect a increase in passengers. Trains on the other hand are usually different.
Have a look at the state of the trains operating between Birmingham-Walsall-Rugeley on a Saturday afternoon
I'm sure
@Bob will confirm that you can be ankle deep in cans, bottles and general rubbish
Pretty dirty any time of the week Tony...carpets and carriages also never a good idea unless theyre kept meticulously clean...as WMT learnt rapidly with the timesavers
Pretty much all the arguments presented there as to why car drivers won't switch to buses boil down to the general public that they'd have to share buses with
Has Diamond recently bought a vehicle that is in a livery similar to Central Buses?
Said vehicle is operating the 301 today.
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2018, 02:33:42 PM
Has Diamond recently bought a vehicle that is in a livery similar to Central Buses?
Said vehicle is operating the 301 today.
@Westy Most likely 30502 recently transferred up from Wessex:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128470593@N05/39599384991
20743 on the 25 Fox & Goose to Erdington
20002 was on the 29 today, if of any interest.
30933 on the 302 as well..
When will rotala paint the Hanson's buses....
Quote from: Chris on February 02, 2018, 09:30:29 PM
When will rotala paint the Hanson's buses....
Where do the buses get painted? It use to be Long Acre didn't it?
They'll paint them when they decide to send them, there's still many Black Diamond Buses that still need painting, and the Arriva Buses.
Quote from: Jack on February 02, 2018, 09:44:26 PM
Where do the buses get painted? It use to be Long Acre didn't it?
They'll paint them when they decide to send them, there's still many Black Diamond Buses that still need painting, and the Arriva Buses.
Wilcox, Bloxwich. Long Acre used to do the body prep, that is now done at Tividale since Long closed.
The majority of Black Diamond & ex Arriva left are old MPD's which are unlikely to be repainted now. Priority for repaints had been the ex Regal Solo's 20050-5 & Solo's 20056-8.
Not sure what is next in line (may well be the 62 plate Gemini's for Preston, one is at Tividale now) but there is a long list, ex Hanson's, ex Wessex, White Solo's, Black Diamond Volvo Royale's etc
Quote from: Winston on February 02, 2018, 10:15:30 PM
Wilcox, Bloxwich. Long Acre used to do the body prep, that is now done at Tividale since Long closed.
The majority of Black Diamond & ex Arriva left are old MPD's which are unlikely to be repainted now. Priority for repaints had been the ex Regal Solo's 20050-5 & Solo's 20056-8.
Not sure what is next in line (may well be the 62 plate Gemini's for Preston, one is at Tividale now) but there is a long list, ex Hanson's, ex Wessex, White Solo's, Black Diamond Volvo Royale's etc
There is Redditch 20522 (20914) which is a '57' plate Solo in Black which isn't that old. Neither is 30201. I'd thought they'd of repainted the final Black Royale Centros (by now atleast!) and 30502.
Add the Centrals to the list too!
Quote from: Westy on February 02, 2018, 11:43:21 PM
Add the Centrals to the list too!
Not until the end of Feb!
Quote from: Jack on February 02, 2018, 11:10:13 PM
There is Redditch 20522 (20914) which is a '57' plate Solo in Black which isn't that old. Neither is 30201. I'd thought they'd of repainted the final Black Royale Centros (by now atleast!) and 30502.
30201 is already in allover blue current livery.
There are still 2 Wessex liveried DF Streetlites (30528/9) @ Redditch which moved Dec 2016 to deal with, plus now 4 ex Wessex B7RLE's at KR as well.
Quote from: Chris on February 05, 2018, 08:21:20 PM
@Simon Dunn is there any plans to introduce double deckers on any route in the West Midlands. Maybe for the 002 or 16?
The 16 deosn't need deckers.
The 16 copes fine with B7RLEs.
Quote from: 2206 on February 05, 2018, 08:39:49 PM
The 16 deosn't need deckers.
The 16 copes fine with B7RLEs.
The 16 gets full, when the NX 16 is late.
I believe 20885- 10 reg solo was on 17 today
Saw an ex first interior (pink bars and first seats) e300 on the 002 does anyone know the fleet number I think it was an 08 plate
Quote from: Chris on February 07, 2018, 11:58:53 AM
Saw an ex first interior (pink bars and first seats) e300 on the 002 does anyone know the fleet number I think it was an 08 plate
30933 a 54 plate E300, it's the only one left active.
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
30933 a 54 plate E300, it's the only one left active.
Cheers winston thought never see that before
Quote from: Chris on February 07, 2018, 12:11:16 PM
Cheers winston thought never see that before
It only moved from Redditch during late Jan.
Quote from: Chris on February 07, 2018, 11:58:53 AM
Saw an ex first interior (pink bars and first seats) e300 on the 002 does anyone know the fleet number I think it was an 08 plate
That's 30933 (VX54 MSU). It's recently moved to Tividale from Redditch,
@Chris.
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
30933 a 54 plate E300, it's the only one left active.
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2018, 12:13:01 PM
It only moved from Redditch during late Jan.
Heard rumours that 30934 might be making a return soon.
Recently obtained from Ensign Bus 20885 CX10 AUP working the 16W service today.
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2018, 12:06:57 PM
30933 a 54 plate E300, it's the only one left active.
Their is more then one E300 at Tiv, some times on the 401E/301/302 very long buses with green seats.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on February 08, 2018, 07:12:11 PM
Their is more then one E300 at Tiv, some times on the 401E/301/302 very long buses with green seats.
He means the last Ex-First one still in use. 30488/9/90/92 are the ones with the green seats. They occasionally are on the 401E. They are on the 4/4H a lot too.
Quote from: Jack on February 08, 2018, 07:46:23 PM
He means the last Ex-First one still in use. 30488/9/90/92 are the ones with the green seats. They occasionally are on the 401E. They are on the 4/4H a lot too.
I never get them on 4H. Solid 07 and 13 plates nowadays
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 08, 2018, 07:56:48 PM
I never get them on 4H. Solid 07 and 13 plates nowadays
I'm not sure if it was a 4H or a 4, but there were certainly a couple of E300's on there earlier, while I was waiting for an 11/13 in Walsall.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 08, 2018, 07:56:48 PM
I never get them on 4H. Solid 07 and 13 plates nowadays
There were two E300s on 4H yesterday.
The 301/2 branded vehicles seriously need debranding. It looks like it's been rubbed off after having many trips through the bus wash, the back window branding is badly fading.
Quote from: Jack on February 10, 2018, 04:05:03 PM
The 301/2 branded vehicles seriously need debranding. It looks like it's been rubbed off after having many trips through the bus wash, the back window branding is badly fading.
At least Tividale has a working bus wash :D
Quote from: MW on February 10, 2018, 04:11:15 PM
At least Tividale has a working bus wash :D
Have a look at the crappy painjobs on the roof of the Ex-Redditch B7RLE's, 30851's paint has the red paint visible.
Where would I find diamonds new optares?
Quote from: Chris on February 11, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
Where would I find diamonds new optares?
13,17,12- not sure if you use diamond tracker on website- you are now able to see what bus is operating on which route- as it gives you vehicle reference
I meant the new SRs
Quote from: Chris on February 11, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
Where would I find diamonds new optares?
Look at the vehicle tracker and find out where they are when you want to find them.
As
@Trident 4194 said, the Diamond vehicle tracker on the website now show what bus is where and gives the vehicles fleetnumber.
Vehicle tracker shows 20882 is out on the 71 in Chelmsley Wood currently.
Operating the 18:02 71 to Sutton Coldfield.
Also shows 20884 operating the 17:32 71 from Chelmsley Wood to Sutton Coldifeld, currently in Castle Vale.
Quote from: 2206 on February 11, 2018, 06:02:23 PM
Look at the vehicle tracker and find out where they are when you want to find them.
As @Trident 4194 said, the Diamond vehicle tracker on the website now show what bus is where and gives the vehicles fleetnumber.
Vehicle tracker shows 20882 is out on the 71 in Chelmsley Wood currently.
Operating the 18:02 71 to Sutton Coldfield.
Also shows 20884 operating the 17:32 71 from Chelmsley Wood to Sutton Coldifeld, currently in Castle Vale.
@2206 20884 is a Redditch vehicle...
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 11, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
@2206 20884 is a Redditch vehicle...
I know, but Diamonds bus tracker said it was on the 71 today, not me.
Quote from: 2206 on February 11, 2018, 09:21:57 PM
I know, but Diamonds bus tracker said it was on the 71 today, not me.
Driver obviously selected wrong fleet number on ticket machine then. 20884 was in redditch all day.
Primo 20011 is on the 226 according to Diamond's bus tracker along with 20731
20733 apparently on 142 too. Isn't this meant to reach certain spec vehicle?
20881-13- brilliant bus
30488 blinds weren't working on 002 today. Had piece of paper stuck in windscreen
Saw 30003 in service on Birmingham Moor st today, either 16 or 50 so it's now in service at Tividale and in Diamond blue.
Hansons 52 reg dart on 4H according to tracker. Now that is incredibly unusual if it's true
Edit:it's not it's a value B7RLE
Quote from: V89MOA on February 19, 2018, 06:56:34 PM
Saw 30003 in service on Birmingham Moor st today, either 16 or 50 so it's now in service at Tividale and in Diamond blue.
on 16 left city 1110 to Hamstead
There's a Black Diamond liveried dart out on the Tipton 42 today which doesn't have a destination display on the front. It looked like it had paper in the front window, but it's hard to tell from the train station platform without my glasses.
Tracker site says 20003, if it's correct.
Redditch Streetlite, 20974, is on the 29 according to tracker. If it is would it be a loan or a transfer?
If on any interest 30211 is having a day on the 4.
Quote from: Jack on February 21, 2018, 09:23:22 AM
Redditch Streetlite, 20974, is on the 29 according to tracker. If it is would it be a loan or a transfer?
Its also tracking as being on the 34 (Birmingham City Centre to Kings Heath).
The 34 is operated by Redditch and 20974 is found on the 34 most days, more than likely where it actually is.
Its been said many times that some of the fleetnumbers on the tracker are wrong, its more than likely another vehicle on the 29.
Right I've learnt that most vehicles put on tracker are correct however there is a few wrong. Please can we only post stuff if we actually see it from now on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2018, 12:20:24 PM
Right I've learnt that most vehicles put on tracker are correct however there is a few wrong. Please can we only post stuff if we actually see it from now on?
Considering you do it yourself.
Quote from: Dom on February 21, 2018, 01:23:22 PM
Considering you do it yourself.
Hence why I said from now on sir.
30002 is back at Tividale again, on 16 today.
Quote from: V89MOA on February 22, 2018, 12:22:34 PM
30002 is back at Tividale again, on 16 today.
It's been back a month or so, it was swapped with 30000 which is at KR.
30002 was the one which leaked the contents of it's fuel tank in KR.
Quote from: Winston on February 22, 2018, 12:56:24 PM
It's been back a month or so, it was swapped with 30000 which is at KR.
30002 was the one which leaked the contents of it's fuel tank in KR.
Ahh sorry, wasn't in the recent fleet changes so I assumed it was a more recent move!
Quote from: V89MOA on February 22, 2018, 03:56:29 PM
Ahh sorry, wasn't in the recent fleet changes so I assumed it was a more recent move!
I'm pretty sure it moved mid Dec ish, it should of appeared by the Jan fleetchanges at least.
Largest single decker ever on the 17 If tracker is correct- 30952
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
Largest single decker ever on the 17 If tracker is correct- 30952
Thought you weren't posting anymore allocations based on the tracker without physically seeing (your idea)?
Quote from: Winston on February 28, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Thought you weren't posting anymore allocations based on the tracker without physically seeing (your idea)?
Good point. Was just raising the issue about the 17 route- if it was to be on there- high unlikely wouldn't it be the biggest bus ever on the 17?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2018, 02:49:54 PM
Good point. Was just raising the issue about the 17 route- if it was to be on there- high unlikely wouldn't it be the biggest bus ever on the 17?
What's the point without seeing it? It could just be a Solo on there & wrong fleet number is showing on the tracker
Quote from: Winston on February 22, 2018, 04:21:05 PM
I'm pretty sure it moved mid Dec ish, it should of appeared by the Jan fleetchanges at least.
Still no mention of 30000 or 30002 swapping in today's February changes, both do seem to track on the correct garages routes though. Perhaps one for Mr Dunn to chase up!
Quote from: V89MOA on February 28, 2018, 04:48:28 PM
Still no mention of 30000 or 30002 swapping in today's February changes, both do seem to track on the correct garages routes though. Perhaps one for Mr Dunn to chase up!
The Rotala Fleetlist posted here correctly shows them as swapped:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5057.0
Quote from: Winston on February 28, 2018, 04:56:36 PM
The Rotala Fleetlist posted here correctly shows them as swapped:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5057.0
Hmmm, it must be a mistake with the 'main site' then.
All white Solo SR on the 68 at the moment, a nice change, think the morning jounrneys go on to the 25?
Quote from: V89MOA on February 28, 2018, 05:00:02 PM
Hmmm, it must be a mistake with the 'main site' then.
Or what's more likely is the ticket machine has been swapped over from another bus and the driver couldn't be arsed to enter the correct fleet number into the machine causing the tracking info to be wrong
Quote from: V89MOA on February 28, 2018, 05:00:02 PM
Hmmm, it must be a mistake with the 'main site' then.
Yes occasionally I can missed swaps like this as I check for changes by putting one months list against the other and looking for changes and something like this is difficult to see.
I will add them to the changes
Quote from: 4747 on March 01, 2018, 08:27:08 AM
Or what's more likely is the ticket machine has been swapped over from another bus and the driver couldn't be arsed to enter the correct fleet number into the machine causing the tracking info to be wrong
I only ever post sightings I have seen for myself, seen 30002 on both 16W and 002 in the last two weeks. What I was getting at is when buses first transfer between garages they don't seem to track properly at first, but if the tracking was already working correctly then they must have been missed off either the Rotala or WMBIP transfer list. Winston also confirmed both the buses have definitely moved.
Quote from: Tony on March 01, 2018, 08:40:06 AM
I will add them to the changes
Thanks Tony.
257 stranded near halesowen
Ex central buses dart on the 226 today
Quote from: Chris on March 04, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
Ex central buses dart on the 226 today
There was an ex Central Buses Solo on the 29/301 too.
Was thinking if tividale operated the daytime and evening 142, wouldn't they be able to reduce the PVR by one as you could just continue using the daytime 142 on the evening service. Timings match perfectly. It's to my understanding that the evening 142 comes off the 17 which presumably doesn't go back to garage? I'm aware of the interworking with the 257 too.
If anyone knows the 4 buses on the 4 today please post
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2018, 02:40:23 PM
If anyone knows the 4 buses on the 4 today please post
YD02 PZL, VX54 MSU, PN03 ULU. Forgot the fourth bus.
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 12, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
YD02 PZL, VX54 MSU, PN03 ULU. Forgot the fourth bus.
Decker round Bradford place! What an allocation of buses there, 3 of tividales finest. Nothing to stop a decker getting on the 4H then hopefully
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 12, 2018, 06:52:36 PM
YD02 PZL, VX54 MSU, PN03 ULU. Forgot the fourth bus.
The other was an ex 29 branded Dart.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
Decker round Bradford place! What an allocation of buses there, 3 of tividales finest. Nothing to stop a decker getting on the 4H then hopefully
Deckers are a common place round Bradford Place. The 45 has (usually) Deckers on it everyday, not Sundays.
Anyone watching the bus tracker will see 11520 on the 226.
It is actually 21012 based on my calculations
20883 was on the 25 today, first time i've seen a Solo SR on there.
It used Brockhurst Road and Bromford Lane as well, they usually use Ventor Avenue and Coleshill Road in both directions when I see them?
Quote from: 2206 on March 17, 2018, 05:18:57 PM
20883 was on the 25 today, first time i've seen a Solo SR on there.
It used Brockhurst Road and Bromford Lane as well, they usually use Ventor Avenue and Coleshill Road in both directions when I see them?
One has done it before, snow diversion?
Does anyone have any confirmed Decker sightings today?
Quote from: 2206 on March 17, 2018, 05:18:57 PM
20883 was on the 25 today, first time i've seen a Solo SR on there.
It used Brockhurst Road and Bromford Lane as well, they usually use Ventor Avenue and Coleshill Road in both directions when I see them?
Thought the route was meant to use Brockhurst Road? Only caught it once and it didn't that time but all maps and timetable information suggest it should be
PN03 ULU is on 226.
Does it have the diamond decals on it
Quote from: ChrisGoode on March 19, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
Does it have the diamond decals on it
It was still carrying Central decals yesterday as were the other two deckers
Quote from: ChrisGoode on March 19, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
Does it have the diamond decals on it
No, it currently does not.
With Diamond now running the 61 in Perry Barr, would there be mileage in combining it with the 68 and possibly even extend beyond Handsworth up to West Brom to help with driver changes?
Arriva dart parked up at 1 stop crew bus
Quote from: Solo1 on March 23, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
Arriva dart parked up at 1 stop crew bus
This was operating the 68A/C earlier today
There is a KS03 Slowlo that has faulty front blind that was on the 42 yesterday, think it was 20541, had a written paper number.
According to a post on 30885 earlier the 142 evening and Sunday will not be operated by diamond. My guess is Igo has got it
Quote from: Chris on March 26, 2018, 08:47:44 PM
According to a post on 30885 earlier the 142 evening and Sunday will not be operated by diamond. My guess is Igo has got it
Nobody got it - tender withdrawn due to low usage
Quote from: metrocity on March 26, 2018, 09:20:11 PM
Nobody got it - tender withdrawn due to low usage
Ouch that's not good. The daytime one still running i presume?
Igo don't do evening & Sundays anyway, do they, along with a few other operators?
(As I've said before, in the Black Country, evening & Sundays appear to be split between NX & Diamond nowadays!)
Good to see 30929, 30933 and 30878 on 4H. Evolution of the enviros on here.
Ex Hansons Dart on the 54A in Perry Barr today, that was a weird sight out here
Quote from: Kevin on April 01, 2018, 02:01:16 PM
Ex Hansons Dart on the 54A in Perry Barr today, that was a weird sight out here
21018.
2 deckers out 1 on 4 to walsall j one & on 42/43 V one
@Trident 4194 have you seen what's out on the 4H? 8)
Currently heading to Hayley Green.
Quote from: Jack on April 10, 2018, 11:56:51 AM
@Trident 4194 have you seen what's out on the 4H? 8)
Currently heading to Hayley Green.
Yes don't worry I hope to get it in a bit. Thanks for the clarification
Currently on 30211 looks a bit worse for wear interior wise
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 11:59:51 AM
Yes don't worry I hope to get it in a bit. Thanks for the clarification
Currently on 30211 looks a bit worse for wear interior wise
What do you expect? Tividale have neglected its interior over the years, still sounds great and goes like stink.
Quote from: Jack on April 10, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
What do you expect? Tividale have neglected its interior over the years, still sounds great and goes like stink.
To be fair 30214 had the nicest interior from what I recall. Yeah engine all good
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 02:38:56 PM
To be fair 30214 had the nicest interior from what I recall. Yeah engine all good
Yeah, that was a nice one. 30215 will always be the best though!
Quote from: Jack on April 10, 2018, 03:05:56 PM
Yeah, that was a nice one. 30215 will always be the best though!
I'm on about ones which are diamonds. Why do the cadets constantly shake up and down on a wheel??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
I'm on about ones which are diamonds. Why do the cadets constantly shake up and down on a wheel??
30213 was my favourite from the original Cadets. They shake up and down because they don't have good suspension, Tividale is too blame for that.
MX56 HYA was seen yesterday in Sutton on the 78 carrying fleet number 30900 not 30963 as shown in the fleetlist.Is this an error or are there others?
Quote from: broma1k on April 12, 2018, 03:29:20 PM
MX56 HYA was seen yesterday in Sutton on the 78 carrying fleet number 30900 not 30963 as shown in the fleetlist.Is this an error or are there others?
That was it's original allocated fleetnumber which subsequntly changed to 30963, the fleetlist is correct.
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 03:36:15 PM
That was it's original allocated fleetnumber which subsequntly changed to 30963, the fleetlist is correct.
I'm awfully confused with the central bus fleet numbers here. On bus they have 3090* what are they on Tony's fleetlist then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 12, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
I'm awfully confused with the central bus fleet numbers here. On bus they have 3090* what are they on Tony's fleetlist then?
The on bus ones are wrong, they are the ones that were originally allocated on paper until it was realized some clashed with Atherton's Scania's. Fleet list is correct, I've pointed it out to Simon.
There's only a 30897 which is at Redditch, all the rest were re-numbered 30960-30977 & should be carrying those numbers.
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 09:28:27 PM
The on bus ones are wrong, they are the ones that were originally allocated on paper until it was realized some clashed with Atherton's Scania's. Fleet list is correct, I've pointed it out to Simon.
There's only a 30897 which is at Redditch, all the rest were re-numbered 30960-30977 & should be carrying those numbers.
Didn't 30897 originally come to Tividale? The main fleet list shows it as a Tividale bus.
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 09:32:23 PM
Didn't 30897 originally come to Tividale? The main fleet list shows it as a Tividale bus.
It was only allocated to Tividale on paper as it was VOR on transfer from Central Buses, I don't think it's seen service at Tividale.
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
It was only allocated to Tividale on paper as it was VOR on transfer from Central Buses, I don't think it's seen service at Tividale.
I'm 100% sure I saw it on the 78 when it first transferred to Diamond and went to Tividale.
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 09:53:47 PM
I'm 100% sure I saw it on the 78 when it first transferred to Diamond and went to Tividale.
I think the 78 is operated by Tamworth depot.
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 10:03:42 PM
I think the 78 is operated by Tamworth depot.
You say you think it is but really you don't know...
No it's Tividale, Tamworth don't operate Darts, the 78 is usually a Dart, and a Decker has done it since the takeover.
30963 was on it today (56 plate Dart, ex Central, based at Tividale).
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
You say you think it is but really you don't know...
No it's Tividale, Tamworth don't operate Darts, the 78 is usually a Dart, and a Decker has done it since the takeover.
30963 was on it today (56 plate Dart, ex Central, based at Tividale).
I agree with
@Jack
Quote from: Straightlines on April 12, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
I agree with @Jack
Thank you
@Straightlines Before anyone starts saying, the 88 and 89 are both operated by Tividale. As is the 74.
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
You say you think it is but really you don't know...
No it's Tividale, Tamworth don't operate Darts, the 78 is usually a Dart, and a Decker has done it since the takeover.
30963 was on it today (56 plate Dart, ex Central, based at Tividale).
Never seen a 78 in the flesh and don't spend all day watching the tracker.
I do know that on the fleetlist Simon sent me 23rd Feb i.e. before the transfer of Central Buses fleet to Diamond Depots, 30897 was listed as allocated to Tividale and already showing as 'Currently VOR' - unless that was wrong, I'm 100% certain you couldn't have seen 30897 out. I've not seen any reports of it in service until in appeared at Redditch depot mid March.
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 10:54:06 PM
Never seen a 78 in the flesh and don't spend all day watching the tracker.
I don't spend all day watching the tracker thanks. I saw the 78 today which was in the form of 30963, the tracker was saying it was another bus, can't remember fleetnumber now.
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
I don't spend all day watching the tracker thanks. I saw the 78 today which was in the form of 30963, the tracker was saying it was another bus, can't remember fleetnumber now.
You may want to read that back to yourself...
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
I don't spend all day watching the tracker thanks. I saw the 78 today which was in the form of 30963, the tracker was saying it was another bus, can't remember fleetnumber now.
I'd love to know how you managed to see 30963, if you look at Reply #1001 further up this thread you will notice that 30963 actually incorrectly carries fleet number 30900!
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 11:12:53 PM
I'd love to know how you managed to see 30963, if you look at Reply #1001 further up this thread you will notice that 30963 actually incorrectly carries fleet number 30900!
I couldn't see the fleet number, only the registration plate (which clearly reads MX56 ***!) so I looked at the fleet list to see the vehicle, which said 30963. Not my fault the fleet list is incorrect, it's also not my fault the fleetnumber is ridiculously small.
Atleast I know where the 78 is operated and don't use guesswork!
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 11:21:23 PM
I couldn't see the fleet number, only the registration plate (which clearly reads MX56 ***!) so I looked at the fleet list to see the vehicle, which said 30963. Not my fault the fleet list is incorrect, it's also not my fault the fleetnumber is ridiculously small.
Atleast I know where the 78 is operated and don't use guesswork!
The fleetlist isn't incorrect, the fleet number on the bus is wrong. Which you would have figured out for yourself.....
Don't use guesswork, tracker said is was a Plaxton Centro (edit) oh wait, can't remember the fleet number the tracker said actually....
Quote from: Winston on April 12, 2018, 11:50:59 PM
The fleetlist isn't incorrect, the fleet number on the bus is wrong. Which you would have figured out for yourself.....
Don't use guesswork, tracker said is was a Plaxton Centro (edit) oh wait, can't remember the fleet number the tracker said actually....
The main thing was that I saw a Dart on the 78, something you thought wasn't true and was run by
Tamworth, who don't even operate Darts and the 78's allocation is Darts...
Quote from: Jack on April 12, 2018, 11:53:43 PM
The main thing was that I saw a Dart on the 78, something you thought wasn't true and was run by
Tamworth, who don't even operate Darts and the 78's allocation is Darts...
No... you said you 100% saw 30897, now that isn't true or possible.
So what, I wrongly assumed the 78 was run by Tamworth, as Tamworth is closer to Sutton Coldfield than Tividale, I've never seen a 78 to know it was operated by Darts and I don't claim to know everything.
A tree defector is going to be need on the double deckers, I'm surprised the current decker I am on towards Dudley has its front top deck window still....
There was a young spotter on the 226 with a note pad, seemed happy to get the double decker and was very knowledgeable about buses
Optare Versa on 301 today. No idea which one though.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on April 14, 2018, 07:54:46 PM
Optare Versa on 301 today. No idea which one though.
YJ57 XVX.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 14, 2018, 10:57:02 PM
YJ57 XVX.
Yeah Bob Baker just confirmed it has a intermittent ABS fault and Optare coming on Tuesday to look at it.
21015 KU52 RXS presumably broken down earlier, right on the corner of King Street and Union Street, although traffic was flowing around it. It didn't have any hazards on though until I came back past it 10 minutes later, which seems a bit dangerous.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/179213404077162497/435811280436068373/unknown.png)
Quote from: Jack on April 17, 2018, 07:35:34 PM
2. Will the 68A/C be having any improvements soont? The route is in shambles and broke. Very unreliable.
Seems alright recently, strangely ever since the tracker has been active
Diamond 4H on fire in Halesowen- fire engine in attendance apparently.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2018, 06:23:33 PM
Diamond 4H on fire in Halesowen- fire engine in attendance apparently.
posting crap again
It had a fuel leak
Quote from: karl724223 on April 19, 2018, 08:48:48 PM
posting crap again
It had a fuel leak
Do you know fleetnumber? There was a fire engine there I heard??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2018, 08:51:13 PM
Do you know fleetnumber? There was a fire engine there I heard??
Fire services have to attend fuel leaks if over a certain amount of spillage has occurred
20543 YT51EAO disgraced itself today when the back nearside wheel fell off whilst operating service 21 oldbury to bearwood
Quote from: cris 99 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
20543 YT51EAO disgraced itself today when the back nearside wheel fell off whilst operating service 21 oldbury to bearwood
Not the first time and probably not the last either!
Quote from: cris 99 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
20543 YT51EAO disgraced itself today when the back nearside wheel fell off whilst operating service 21 oldbury to bearwood
Was just coming to post about that, saw the RS breakdown vehicle there trying to get it hitched up and completely blocking the Oldbury Road towards Oldbury as it had broken down at the island. We were heading back home on the other side of the road and there were a lot of rather unhappy car drivers! I would imagine it affected the 87 as well, depending how long it took to hitch it up.
This was about 1pm this afternoon.
i had not long got of it in oldbury cant say i noticed anything to be honest seemed to be running smooth. it couldnt have failed in a worse place to be honest
Quote from: cris 99 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:27 PM
20543 YT51EAO disgraced itself today when the back nearside wheel fell off whilst operating service 21 oldbury to bearwood
Picture post on Facebook: Click here (https://www.facebook.com/gareth.pearson.585/posts/10156399635213169).
There was a 04 plate B7RLE on the 16 today.
21018,20541,20737 were the last 3 buses to finish off the evening 142 service
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 23, 2018, 09:04:26 PM
Picture post on Facebook: Click here (https://www.facebook.com/gareth.pearson.585/posts/10156399635213169).
Pictures have made Routeone:
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Whisperer/Not_a_great_day_
Have been told that 30201 has returned to service.
Quote from: Jack on May 08, 2018, 04:43:36 PM
Have been told that 30201 has returned to service.
it's been posted that it's not ready for service yet still vor
30201 is still declaired sorn
What are these buses being branded for 226 on Q and A thread?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2018, 04:16:42 PM
What are these buses being branded for 226 on Q and A thread?
YJ66APO/APU, Very Recently purchased Optare Solo SRs
21109 has been on the 68A/C today with paper numbers.
Quote from: Jack on May 12, 2018, 05:56:22 PM
21109 has been on the 68A/C today with paper numbers.
think it's been on there most of the week
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on May 09, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
YJ66APO/APU, Very Recently purchased Optare Solo SRs
YJ66APO - First repainted Solo SR branded for the 226:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211894505097552&set=pcb.457041848072964&type=3&theater&ifg=1
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211894506537588&set=pcb.457041848072964&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Are Kidderminster running the 226 now seen an optare versa on there today
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on May 19, 2018, 03:48:46 PM
Are Kidderminster running the 226 now seen an optare versa on there today
No, Tividale.
20010 is out on the 55 with paper numbers and destinations. Passed me twice on Smethwick High Street.
Saw a 3085* b7RLE parked up by lye on the pavement possible awaiting to go into the garage near brewers
30825's rear display doesn't work.
30854 is showing up on tracker as being on 35 Walsall - lichfield not sure if its a loan or do tividale operate 35 now?
@cris 99 - Diamond Bus tracker sightings are not to be posted on the forum, only physical sightings you've seen yourself, Winston
Quote from: cris 99 on May 30, 2018, 12:25:46 PM
30854 is showing up on tracker as being on 35 Walsall - lichfield not sure if its a loan or do tividale operate 35 now?
@cris 99 - Diamond Bus tracker sightings are not to be posted on the forum, only physicalsightings you've seen yourself, Winston
Yes, 30854 is on 35A.
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 30, 2018, 02:57:07 PM
Yes, 30854 is on 35A.
Is the 35/A/B Tamworth operated or Tividale operated?
Hi Jack this service works out of Tamworth
30887 - 78 (not unusual I know but usually Central Buses livery big Darts, not Blue or Black bigger Darts.
30933 side display is messed up on the 301.
On another note I saw 30854 on the 35A and Plaxton Centro on the 35 (must be Tividale operating the 35/A, because Tamworth don't operate neither types)!
Theres a Dart on the 401e 2 days running, where the front & side displays are knackered!
Quote from: Westy on June 01, 2018, 04:42:30 PM
Theres a Dart on the 401e 2 days running, where the front & side displays are knackered!
Its EU06 KPA (21109), Ex Central MPD. Been like that for weeks as I saw it on the 68A/C.
KW02 CVV (20535) has been on the 29 today displaying Blackenhall, bet this winds you up
@Westy
Quote from: Jack on June 01, 2018, 05:09:32 PM
Its EU06 KPA (21109), Ex Central MPD. Been like that for weeks as I saw it on the 68A/C.
KW02 CVV (20535) has been on the 29 today displaying Blackenhall, bet this winds you up @Westy
Must admit I had to go to Blakenall last Thursday, for a funeral, so I walked it from my bit of Leamore, through the park(where my late dad used to be 'parkie' back in the 80's!), up to Blakenall shops & lo & behold, one of the shop signs advertised itself as being 'Blakenhall'!
I give in!
Decker been on 002 for last 3 days
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
Decker been on 002 for last 3 days
Bet you was happy with that instead of the Centro's in "limp" mode.
Quote from: Jack on June 01, 2018, 09:00:45 PM
Bet you was happy with that instead of the Centro's in "limp" mode.
Haven't been on one yet
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2018, 08:47:50 PM
Decker been on 002 for last 3 days
roof near side heavy impact damage from trees badly bodged up
Quote from: karl724223 on June 01, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
roof near side heavy impact damage from trees badly bodged up
Not sure why it's been put on there 3 days in a road on the same journey time too each day!
On another note I saw 30854 on the 35A and Plaxton Centro on the 35 (must be Tividale operating the 35/A, because Tamworth don't operate neither types)!
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They do.....
Quote from: ntw456 on June 01, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
On another note I saw 30854 on the 35A and Plaxton Centro on the 35 (must be Tividale operating the 35/A, because Tamworth don't operate neither types)!
They do.....
Well...
Quote from: mark114 on May 30, 2018, 03:16:25 PM
Hi Jack this service works out of Tamworth
theres a few on loan dennis dart 20001 SNO5HDE is also on 35 today
Quote from: karl724223 on June 01, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
roof near side heavy impact damage from trees badly bodged up
Green Bus used deckers on their 22, followed near enough the same route so don't see how the 002 would cause damage
Diamonds latest solo sr was out in 226 today photo on photo link
30211 on 4H
EU06 KPA was on the 35 with the front display displaying loads of 35s and rear display not working at all.
If theres any Diamond Tividale people on here, I suggest you take a look at 30882 when it gets back to the depot.
Whether its got a problem with gears or accelaration, I dont know, but its very very slow pulling from stops, almost at a crawl.
I'd be very surprised if it gets over the canal bridge by Nx Walsall depot!
tividale volvo 30408 PO58KPY is on loan to tamworth seen in chelmsley wood this morning on 91a/91c
Hi everyone as anyone got any info on fleet number 30826 as I have not seen it for a while info would be greatly appreciated thank you
Quote from: mark114 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:55 PM
Hi everyone as anyone got any info on fleet number 30826 as I have not seen it for a while info would be greatly appreciated thank you
judging by this photo from last month, it's still parked up out of action:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146674753@N06/42755864271
Thank you so much Winston for your reply and info which is greatly appreciated
Quote from: mark114 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:55 PM
Hi everyone as anyone got any info on fleet number 30826 as I have not seen it for a while info would be greatly appreciated thank you
It's going for a repaint I've been told
Thank you so much 4747 for the info I was told last night a different story it might be withdrawn something to do with the tax and mot not being renewed but I guess only time will tell thank you again for your post greatly appreciated
I'm 99% I saw 30826 yesterday on a 16W.
Thank you so much for your post Dom well the different story's I'm hearing about it just keep coming i will just have to wait and see to see it for myself thank you again for your post which is greatly appreciated
Quote from: 4747 on June 17, 2018, 09:45:12 AM
It's going for a repaint I've been told
Hopefully 30825 will follow, logoless in its glory.
Thank you so much jack for your post greatly appreciated
Quote from: mark114 on June 17, 2018, 10:23:22 AM
Thank you so much 4747 for the info I was told last night a different story it might be withdrawn something to do with the tax and mot not being renewed but I guess only time will tell thank you again for your post greatly appreciated
30826 has returned from paint and is now being prepped for MOT.
Thank you so much 4747 for the info regarding 30826 greatly appreciated
20974 & 30826 both on the 16 today
Quote from: Jack on June 22, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
As was 20982.
Ex central 218 on the 16 to Hamstead but displaying the Tamworth route 16
Ex Hansons Dart was on the 68A/C today
Either 30002 or 30003 is on the 50 thinking it's in Kidderminster with '1 Rifle Range' on the display.
30933 has a very lose handrail
@Simon Dunn, quite dangerous
WF Streetlite 20974 is still in service in allover blue:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twmmcw/29405334168/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Winston on July 09, 2018, 11:32:06 PM
WF Streetlite 20974 is still in service in allover blue:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twmmcw/29405334168/in/dateposted/
It's having a day on the 78 today
Ex Wessex/Hallmark B7RLE 30525 (BX62 FEU) is now at Tividale and is on the 16/W today. I saw it pass me at Moor Street Queensway at around 7:50 on a 16W to Birmingham.
Is this a loan move or a permanent one info as always will be greatly appreciated
Quote from: mark114 on July 12, 2018, 10:16:08 AM
Is this a loan move or a permanent one info as always will be greatly appreciated
Permanent, there may be a few more to follow once the new Streetlites enter service at Hallmark, Heathrow. Some have already been delivered.
Thank you so much Winston for the info as always greatly appreciated
Diamond 30894 is broken down in Bromley Lane was a 226, parked at bus stop outside the Tesco.
30822 missed out a lot of 002 trips kept breaking down eventually being replaced by 30411
Quote from: Winston on July 12, 2018, 04:33:19 PM
Diamond 30894 is broken down in Bromley Lane was a 226, parked at bus stop outside the Tesco.
Was that the ex Hanson's dart if so it's still there now at 20.05, driver nowhere to be seen.
@Simon Dunn anyone coming to get it?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 12, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Was that the ex Hanson's dart if so it's still there now at 20.05, driver nowhere to be seen.
@Simon Dunn anyone coming to get it?
Yes, 55 plate Dart. It's been there since at least 15.45pm
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 12, 2018, 08:06:37 PM
Was that the ex Hanson's dart if so it's still there now at 20.05, driver nowhere to be seen.
@Simon Dunn anyone coming to get it?
The vehicle was collected
Quote from: Simon Dunn on July 13, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
The vehicle was collected
Just thought I would ask as there were some unpleasantries nearby
Peculiar sight at merry hill today an central buses enviro 200 with a blue diamond front.. was on the 002
@Simon Dunn so I've been on 30858 and 30851 both have warning lights on and are having to be stopped and engine turned off for a few minutes. But these buses are working perfectly fine?
30851 has completely broken down now by the looks of it
@Simon Dunn missing trips as we speak.
Why don't you actually come down to the West Midlands and see what crap you're giving your excellent drivers
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 14, 2018, 09:37:54 AM
@Simon Dunn so I've been on 30858 and 30851 both have warning lights on and are having to be stopped and engine turned off for a few minutes. But these buses are working perfectly fine?
30861 keeps on cutting off when stationary, but of course it's working fine.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 14, 2018, 09:37:54 AM
@Simon Dunn so I've been on 30858 and 30851 both have warning lights on and are having to be stopped and engine turned off for a few minutes. But these buses are working perfectly fine?
A lot of newer buses have the occasional sensor glitch & require the system to be reset a bit like rebooting your computer.
All companies have the same issue it's only if the system persists in saying there's a fault that a bus needs to be replaced.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 12, 2018, 07:59:12 AM
Ex Wessex/Hallmark B7RLE 30525 (BX62 FEU) is now at Tividale and is on the 16/W today. I saw it pass me at Moor Street Queensway at around 7:50 on a 16W to Birmingham.
This was on the 16W this morning.
21001 has a bit of blue on the front as well as the Arriva green- looks very strange
Well Simon did say they were starting a repaint programme.
I just assumed they were going to paint a whole bus at a time.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 18, 2018, 09:27:14 PM
Well Simon did say they were starting a repaint programme.
I just assumed they were going to paint a whole bus at a time.
There was a Central liveried E200 going around with a Diamond blue front end too last week!
Yeah I saw that the other day it was on the 91A/C in chemsley wood
30966.
It's nearside headlight cluster was stuck on with tape yesterday.
Quote from: V89MOA on July 18, 2018, 09:33:25 PM
There was a Central liveried E200 going around with a Diamond blue front end too last week!
It's not 30966 that had front end accident damage is it? Simon said it was being fully repainted in to Diamond Livery, in the same post WF Streetlite 20974 was being repainted white for returning off lease (that hasn't been done yet as it was still in service up to a couple of days ago in Diamond Bus livery)
Definitely not had a full repaint, it looks like a science experiment!
(Photo Credit to Kiea Jenkins)
Why only paint the front in Diamond Livery ???
Quote from: Winston on July 18, 2018, 10:14:52 PM
Why only paint the front in Diamond Livery ???
RTA repairs I read. It wouldn't have took much to paint the whole bus though
Quote from: Steveminor on July 18, 2018, 09:27:14 PM
Well Simon did say they were starting a repaint programme.
I just assumed they were going to paint a whole bus at a time.
Anyone seen any plain white E200's with no fleetnames lately? They've only been on the road for about 12 months. Glass houses, stones.... etc etc etc
Quote from: andy41 on July 18, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
Anyone seen any plain white E200's with no fleetnames lately? They've only been on the road for about 12 months. Glass houses, stones.... etc etc etc
I see them everyday, they've had fleetnames applied under the front windscreen, but that's all, just adverts about gardens.
Maybe it's to be with that TfWM proposal? Front in operators livery, rest in some TfWM corporate thing. Or was that the front only, and the rest in operators own livery. Or have I misunderstood it?
30827 was parked at up at Perry Barr bus station at 16:35, with a driver looking very lost and unsure. The doors were also not closing. These Royales are really really bad now.
@Trident 4194, these are worse than the Ex-Redditch B7RLE's imo.
Quote from: Jack on July 20, 2018, 09:06:08 PM
30827 was parked at up at Perry Barr bus station at 16:35, with a driver looking very lost and unsure. The doors were also not closing. These Royales are really really bad now. @Trident 4194, these are worse than the Ex-Redditch B7RLE's imo.
If it was at Perry Barr then most likely it was just being used as a relief vehicle ?
Quote from: Jack on July 20, 2018, 09:06:08 PM
30827 was parked at up at Perry Barr bus station at 16:35, with a driver looking very lost and unsure. The doors were also not closing. These Royales are really really bad now. @Trident 4194, these are worse than the Ex-Redditch B7RLE's imo.
Nah the ex Redditch ones are pure trash. There was 002 branded Centro broke down today too
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 20, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
Nah the ex Redditch ones are pure trash. There was 002 branded Centro broke down today too
The Royales can barely get to 30mph on the 50 section of Newton Road. 30854 is the only decent ex-Redditch, it can move and is quite nippy.
Quote from: Jack on July 20, 2018, 09:22:51 PM
The Royales can barely get to 30mph on the 50 section of Newton Road. 30854 is the only decent ex-Redditch, it can move and is quite nippy.
I did notice a lack of speed when I travelled on 30823 on 16W. Every time a ex Redditch b7rle put out it seems to overheat or breakdown.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 20, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
I did notice a lack of speed when I travelled on 30823 on 16W. Every time a ex Redditch b7rle put out it seems to overheat or breakdown.
I drove 30856 last week; nothing wrong with that one :o
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 20, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
I did notice a lack of speed when I travelled on 30823 on 16W. Every time a ex Redditch b7rle put out it seems to overheat or breakdown.
They like to cut off when stationary at the sets of traffic lights on Newton does the Royales I've noticed. Ex Redditch B7RLE's struggle up hill turning onto Hamstead Road from Newton Road. Oh and they are terrible on Hamstead Hill.
Quote from: Jack on July 21, 2018, 12:03:35 AM
They like to cut off when stationary at the sets of traffic lights on Newton does the Royales I've noticed. Ex Redditch B7RLE's struggle up hill turning onto Hamstead Road from Newton Road. Oh and they are terrible on Hamstead Hill.
Don't be silly. Diamond are proactive and committed to lowering CO2 emissions, hence the stop start system retrofitted to selected vehicles.
Quote from: MW on July 21, 2018, 12:13:11 AM
Don't be silly. Diamond are proactive and committed to lowering CO2 emissions, hence the stop start system retrofitted to selected vehicles.
😂 you must be joking. If they had retrofitted stop/start then I doubt when they cut out there would be a constant beeping sound until the driver manages to start it up
That beeping is to let the driver know he is helping to save a tree 😂
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on July 20, 2018, 11:06:07 PM
I drove 30856 last week; nothing wrong with that one :o
Try 30851 or 30852, I'm sure you will change your opinion then
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 21, 2018, 08:04:37 AM
Try 30851 or 30852, I'm sure you will change your opinion then
Or 30861.
Saw 20828 on the 29 three times in Walsall with the driver driving with doors open. Is this allowed?
In a word No. Most buses won't move with the doors open, some like our dafs will automatically close the doors when the vehicle is in motion. If this was an older vehicle it might not necessarily have any interlocks fitted. I'm sure Bob baker will investigate this.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
In a word No. Most buses won't move with the doors open, some like our dafs will automatically close the doors when the vehicle is in motion. If this was an older vehicle it might not necessarily have any interlocks fitted. I'm sure @Bob baker will investigate this.
High majority of Diamonds don't have stupid interlock systems, which is a good thing as it doesn't take a decade for the doors to open/close and pull off!
Quote from: Jack on July 23, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
High majority of Diamonds don't have stupid interlock systems, which is a good thing as it doesn't take a decade for the doors to open/close and pull off!
Maybe next time don't post the fleet number we don't want to cause drivers to get the sack do we?
Travel express in wolvo drive with their doors open
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 06:54:45 PM
Maybe next time don't post the fleet number we don't want to cause drivers to get the sack do we?
Travel express in wolvo drive with their doors open
If a driver has broken company rules then it is up to that company what action they may or may not choose to take, Jack didn't post a time and I'm sure the bus has had more than one driver today. Let's face it Travel Express aren't exactly Lothian Buses are they!
Quote from: Jack on July 23, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
High majority of Diamonds don't have stupid interlock systems, which is a good thing as it doesn't take a decade for the doors to open/close and pull off!
30878/79 have it, and my word do the doors take an age to close on 79!
Quote from: V89MOA on July 23, 2018, 07:05:00 PM
If a driver has broken company rules then it is up to that company what action they may or may not choose to take, Jack didn't post a time and I'm sure the bus has had more than one driver today. Let's face it Travel Express aren't exactly Lothian Buses are they!30878/79 have it, and my word do the doors take an age to close on 79!
Yep 30878/9 have them, 30879's are like the Omnilinks! But 878/9 are brilliant buses.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 06:54:45 PM
Maybe next time don't post the fleet number we don't want to cause drivers to get the sack do we?
Travel express in wolvo drive with their doors open
I'm only posting what I saw...
Can't TfWM get involved if they weren't listening? Leading to further action towards the company themselves?
Quote from: Jack on July 23, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
High majority of Diamonds don't have stupid interlock systems,
The reason NXWM buses had them fitted was on the advice of the Traffic Commissioner after a very serious incident.
I just hope Diamond never experience a similar incident due to it not being fitted
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2018, 08:10:50 PM
The reason NXWM buses had them fitted was on the advice of the Traffic Commissioner after a very serious incident.
I just hope Diamond never experience a similar incident due to it not being fitted
Do you mind me asking what happened briefly if possible?
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2018, 08:10:50 PM
The reason NXWM buses had them fitted was on the advice of the Traffic Commissioner after a very serious incident.
I just hope Diamond never experience a similar incident due to it not being fitted
But not everything had an interlock installed, like the Solo's PB had.
Quote from: Jack on July 23, 2018, 08:29:28 PM
But not everything had an interlock installed, like the Solo's PB had.
Optares were impossible to fit without huge expense which wasn't justified on short life vehicles
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 08:21:25 PM
Do you mind me asking what happened briefly if possible?
Surely someone stood too close to the doors?
It was a shame though. Best air con the buses ever had & you didn't have to pay for it!
Diamond currently have demonstrator Mellor Strata LO18 TYD on loan at Tividale. I have seen a photo of it today on the 61 in Wolverhampton if anyone wants to find it.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 03, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
Diamond currently have demonstrator Mellor Strata LO18 TYD on loan at Tividale. I have seen a photo of it today on the 61 in Wolverhampton if anyone wants to find it.
Not sure if related, but one of their Preston Bus Mellor Strata's 21204 was badly damaged by a lorry which reversed in to it on it's first day in service, it was suggested that it may be being returned to Mellor for repairs.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 03, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
Diamond currently have demonstrator Mellor Strata LO18 TYD on loan at Tividale. I have seen a photo of it today on the 61 in Wolverhampton if anyone wants to find it.
With Diamond's standard allocation I look forward to seeing that on the 16 to Brum.
LO18 is on the 226
Quote from: Kevin on August 03, 2018, 12:47:42 PM
With Diamond's standard allocation I look forward to seeing that on the 16 to Brum.
Then the 50
Anyone have any clue what interworks with what? Ie daytime services to evening services.
I know the 17 becomes a 257 at evening.
And a 23 becomes a 530?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Anyone have any clue what interworks with what? Ie daytime services to evening services.
I know the 17 becomes a 257 at evening.
And a 23 becomes a 530?
A 23 becomes the 26A.
Doesn't a 29 turns into 530
One of the diamond deckers was seen heading north on a38
Near 5 on the M6 toll rd anyone know where it was going unless it was off the preston
20839 broken down on the 002 route
Quote from: Solo1 on August 07, 2018, 05:59:18 PM
One of the diamond deckers was seen heading north on a38
Near 5 on the M6 toll rd anyone know where it was going unless it was off the preston
The ex central buses deckers are going to Preston
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on August 07, 2018, 06:50:08 PM
The ex central buses deckers are going to Preston
There was one on the 4 this morning.
I guess thats one of its final appearances then in the WM?
40542 V542ESC in preston livery and 40543 V543ESC in diamond blie were both parked at tividale 2 weeks ago
Quote from: cris 99 on August 07, 2018, 08:50:27 PM
40542 V542ESC in preston livery and 40543 V543ESC in diamond blie were both parked at tividale 2 weeks ago
They were replaced at Preston by the ex Wessex 62 plate Volvo B9TL's, they'd been working out of Atherton since prior to moving south, maybe being sold to Stafford Bus Centre I've read
If anyone sees minibus today can you post please.
Many thanks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 09, 2018, 07:39:08 AM
If anyone sees minibus today can you post please.
Many thanks
It's on the 61 at the moment so will be on the 226 later.
Have the ex central bus deckers gone yet or not
On the tracker it's shows a decker coming from Tamworth depot I thought all the deckers was at tividale to go onto 108 service
every time i go to walsall bus station theres always a diamond bus broken down on hatherton road any reason for this
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 04:05:21 PM
every time i go to walsall bus station theres always a diamond bus broken down on hatherton road any reason for this
Ever considered that's where buses park up on layover?
Quote from: Kevin on August 13, 2018, 04:19:12 PM
Ever considered that's where buses park up on layover?
but there always a rotala van there and the bonet up
Not long passed ex Wessex and latterly Hallmark (Hounslow) B7RLE's 30527 (BX62 FEM) and 30924 (BX62 FZL) at Queslett Asda freshly repainted into the TfWM red livery for use on the 42/3 services in West Bromwich. Presumably they were on the way back to Tividale after repaint
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2018, 04:45:55 PM
Not long passed ex Wessex and latterly Hallmark (Hounslow) B7RLE's 30527 (BX62 FEM) and 30924 (BX62 FZL) at Queslett Asda freshly repainted into the TfWM red livery for use on the 42/3 services in West Bromwich. Presumably they were on the way back to Tividale after repaint
Have their roofs been painted did you notice?
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 04:21:51 PM
but there always a rotala van there and the bonet up
I've noticed that as well.
Diamond bus have a rear ad on a solo see photo links for photo
Think it's the first to have an ad painted
Quote from: Solo1 on August 13, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
Diamond bus have a rear ad on a solo see photo links for photo
Think it's the first to have an ad painted
I've noticed quite a few ads appear on the rear of vehicles. 30809 now has one too
Quote from: Solo1 on August 13, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
Diamond bus have a rear ad on a solo see photo links for photo
Think it's the first to have an ad painted
20014 also has a furniture advert. The same brand, not sure if advert is the same though.
20884 has an advert
30167 has some sort of Dentist/teeth related advert
Quote from: Solo1 on August 13, 2018, 07:29:30 PM
Diamond bus have a rear ad on a solo see photo links for photo
Think it's the first to have an ad painted
Unlikey to be painted ad, most likely just vinyl
Tividale's B7RLE 30527 in new TfWM 42/43 branding:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212460086676738&set=pcb.530514217392393&type=3&theater&ifg=1
Is the whole of the West Midlands fleet going to turn red again
I believe Winston there will be 6 of them all branded for the 42/43 service 30525/526/527/924/925/926
The above should be in service on Sunday 19th if everything goes to plan
Quote from: Winston on August 17, 2018, 04:37:29 PM
Tividale's B7RLE 30527 in new TfWM 42/43 branding:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212460086676738&set=pcb.530514217392393&type=3&theater&ifg=1
That link is giving me a page that reads "Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment". Would you be able to post it as an attachment here at all please?
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 17, 2018, 05:21:50 PM
That link is giving me a page that reads "Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment". Would you be able to post it as an attachment here at all please?
Are you logged in to Facebook?
Kieran Chandail has posted 5 pictures, I've just attached the one:
Quote from: Winston on August 17, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
Are you logged in to Facebook?
Kieran Chandail has posted 5 pictures, I've just attached the one:
I'm logged in, so it's strange that I can't see it. Thanks for sharing it though, it does look really nice in my opinion. Exciting times!
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 17, 2018, 06:37:12 PM
I'm logged in, so it's strange that I can't see it. Thanks for sharing it though, it does look really nice in my opinion. Exciting times!
The pictures are posted on the following Facebook group:
Rotala And All Its Purchases
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 17, 2018, 06:37:12 PM
I'm logged in, so it's strange that I can't see it. Thanks for sharing it though, it does look really nice in my opinion. Exciting times!
Looks much better than the e200
11111 on 17
Is the whole of the diamond fleet going to turn red like national express or is it just on this one route
Quote from: ChrisGoode on August 18, 2018, 07:14:40 PM
Is the whole of the diamond fleet going to turn red like national express or is it just on this one route
For now, it's just for the 42/43/43A, however the 301/302 will also be ran jointly with NXWM as the 31/32 from what I've heard.
Yes that's correct the 31/32 should be next
I imagine diamond will paint the whole fleet in red eventually. Another route they may possibly apply the red colors to is the 4/4H
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 18, 2018, 08:29:44 PM
I imagine diamond will paint the whole fleet in red eventually. Another route they may possibly apply the red colors to is the 4/4H
Yeah, I could see that being a good candidate for it. The 50 in Brum as well as the 16/16W could also be good choices to introduce it on. Historically, it seemed like there were a fair few more routes/corridors that Diamond competed on, such as Stourbridge - Dudley - Wednesbury/Walsall, and the 74 from Dudley to West Bromwich spring to mind.
I think the 35/35A/35B might have a chance of getting a makeover eventually. What do you think?
It would be nice if all buses have a make over but I believe it's only been confirmed as 2 routes at the moment 42/43 and the new 31/32 as for this route only time will tell
the optare solo SR's that usually appear on the 65 might get painted in the red livery because at the moment they are all over white with a diamond sticker at the front
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 18, 2018, 08:33:22 PM
Yeah, I could see that being a good candidate for it. The 50 in Brum as well as the 16/16W could also be good choices to introduce it on. Historically, it seemed like there were a fair few more routes/corridors that Diamond competed on, such as Stourbridge - Dudley - Wednesbury/Walsall, and the 74 from Dudley to West Bromwich spring to mind.
Didn't Diamond do the 87 at one time?
Regarding routes 16/W & 50, I don't see how they can realistically roll the west midlands bus scheme out onto either the 16 or the 50 in their current state, for two main reasons. One they both have different route variants, the 16W for example NX don't currently run, nor do Diamond run the 16A and on the 50 diamond terminate short of Druids Heath (and only run to half the NX frequency). If the buses look identical then this would cause nothing but confusion. Two and this is the bigger issue, diamonds current single deck allocation couldn't seriously cope with both the NX customers and Diamond customers, both already can carry pretty full loads during the peaks and to expect Diamonds single deckers to pile in NX pass users on top is just an unrealistic expectation which would actually make the current Diamond offering worse as at least now one advantage tends to be a quieter less stressful journey!
You also have the issue of Redditch running the Sunday 50s, as well as the Johnsons 150.
To me this just doesn't seem like a scheme that will work in the longrun, there are many issues which unless they are addressed mean that this scheme is unsuitable to roll out fully, that and the contactless incompatibilities which have been mentioned elsewhere on this very forum. It also just seems very restrictive operationally in general to me and I don't really see how Diamond would gain anything as most of their passengers on the Birmingham routes at least would not have paid them a penny for traveling...
Just my thoughts of course, bound to be shot down as usual!
Quote from: V89MOA on August 18, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
Regarding routes 16/W & 50, I don't see how they can realistically roll the west midlands bus scheme out onto either the 16 or the 50 in their current state, for two main reasons. One they both have different route variants, the 16W for example NX don't currently run, nor do Diamond run the 16A and on the 50 diamond terminate short of Druids Heath (and only run to half the NX frequency). If the buses look identical then this would cause nothing but confusion. Two and this is the bigger issue, diamonds current single deck allocation couldn't seriously cope with both the NX customers and Diamond customers, both already can carry pretty full loads during the peaks and to expect Diamonds single deckers to pile in NX pass users on top is just an unrealistic expectation which would actually make the current Diamond offering worse as at least now one advantage tends to be a quieter less stressful journey!
You also have the issue of Redditch running the Sunday 50s, as well as the Johnsons 150.
To me this just doesn't seem like a scheme that will work in the longrun, there are many issues which unless they are addressed mean that this scheme is unsuitable to roll out fully, that and the contactless incompatibilities which have been mentioned elsewhere on this very forum. It also just seems very restrictive operationally in general to me and I don't really see how Diamond would gain anything as most of their passengers on the Birmingham routes at least would not have paid them a penny for traveling...
Just my thoughts of course, bound to be shot down as usual!
Diamond didn't run their 42 to Dudley or their 42/43 didn't follow the same route as NXWM's do, however, they will be all the same from tomorrow.
Plus NXWM do run the same as Diamond's 16W, but theirs are two seperate services not a through route
Quote from: V89MOA on August 18, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
Regarding routes 16/W & 50, I don't see how they can realistically roll the west midlands bus scheme out onto either the 16 or the 50 in their current state, for two main reasons. One they both have different route variants, the 16W for example NX don't currently run, nor do Diamond run the 16A and on the 50 diamond terminate short of Druids Heath (and only run to half the NX frequency). If the buses look identical then this would cause nothing but confusion. Two and this is the bigger issue, diamonds current single deck allocation couldn't seriously cope with both the NX customers and Diamond customers, both already can carry pretty full loads during the peaks and to expect Diamonds single deckers to pile in NX pass users on top is just an unrealistic expectation which would actually make the current Diamond offering worse as at least now one advantage tends to be a quieter less stressful journey!
You also have the issue of Redditch running the Sunday 50s, as well as the Johnsons 150.
To me this just doesn't seem like a scheme that will work in the longrun, there are many issues which unless they are addressed mean that this scheme is unsuitable to roll out fully, that and the contactless incompatibilities which have been mentioned elsewhere on this very forum. It also just seems very restrictive operationally in general to me and I don't really see how Diamond would gain anything as most of their passengers on the Birmingham routes at least would not have paid them a penny for traveling...
Just my thoughts of course, bound to be shot down as usual!
You make some interesting points but I really couldn't see the 50 going into this scheme, it's far too lucrative for NXWM - since the H-Lom Scanias and Metros before that the 50 always has brand new vehicles every few years, no other route has had the same level of investment over such a long time period. Also, NXWM frequency is more than double Diamonds and they carry far more passengers. The fact that Doamond put Optare Solos on the route is very telling. Therefore I think the 50 will carry on in its current way as both operators seem happy with the status quo. The 16 would be more likely perhaps.
On a separate note, Diamonds maintenance would need to improve otherwise NWM brand would be tarnished if it gets linked to regular breakdowns etc and that I think is something that company needs to improve across the board. I'm guessing, these buses will likely have their own dedicated maintenance staff to avoid this issue.
Quote from: j789 on August 18, 2018, 10:41:10 PM
You make some interesting points but I really couldn't see the 50 going into this scheme, it's far too lucrative for NXWM - since the H-Lom Scanias and Metros before that the 50 always has brand new vehicles every few years, no other route has had the same level of investment over such a long time period. Also, NXWM frequency is more than double Diamonds and they carry far more passengers. The fact that Doamond put Optare Solos on the route is very telling. Therefore I think the 50 will carry on in its current way as both operators seem happy with the status quo. The 16 would be more likely perhaps.
On a separate note, Diamonds maintenance would need to improve otherwise NWM brand would be tarnished if it gets linked to regular breakdowns etc and that I think is something that company needs to improve across the board. I'm guessing, these buses will likely have their own dedicated maintenance staff to avoid this issue.
The 37 (now 4/4a) has had the same level of investment as the 50 i.e. new fleet every 4 to 5 years for as long. It also sounds as though the 2015 E200MMC's on that route will be replaced with Hydrogen Fuel Cell buses within the next 12 months or so.
Quote from: Winston on August 18, 2018, 10:32:29 PM
Diamond didn't run their 42 to Dudley or their 42/43 didn't follow the same route as NXWM's do, however, they will be all the same from tomorrow.
Plus NXWM do run the same as Diamond's 16W, but theirs are two seperate services not a through route
Their 43 still won't run to the same route as NXWM's, although it's being renumbered to the 43A to avoid any confusion. I'm not sure if NX will run any 43A journeys, or if Diamond will run any 43's.
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 18, 2018, 11:21:34 PM
Their 43 still won't run to the same route as NXWM's, although it's being renumbered to the 43A to avoid any confusion. I'm not sure if NX will run any 43A journeys, or if Diamond will run any 43's.
Diamond will also be running 43's as well according to the bus workings.
If you notice, the two routes being done are where both operators are willing to put exactly the same resources into the joint operation. In both cases this means savings in PVR for both operators.
There would need to be a lot more negotiations around the other routes being mentioned
I thought tividale also had 30926for the 42+43 as spare unless it's going on 31+32 service
As far as I'm aware 30926 is allocated to the 42/43 route but am not sure if this is a spare as for the new 31/32 route not sure want they are going to use for this route
Quote from: mark114 on August 23, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
As far as I'm aware 30926 is allocated to the 42/43 route but am not sure if this is a spare as for the new 31/32 route not sure want they are going to use for this route
Could they just leave it unbranded then it could be used on either service
Yes that's true but I believe it's better on one particular route so if you need this or any fleet number you can find it because of the route that's it's working but having said that other people will have different views on it
@Simon Dunn as has been reported by another member today a value branded broke down whilst 30407 missed out part of a trip too. This is incredibly bad of your best buses to be so unreliable surely? Do Volvo need to be contacted about this??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 23, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
@Simon Dunn as has been reported by another member today a value branded broke down whilst 30407 missed out part of a trip too. This is incredibly bad of your best buses to be so unreliable surely? Do Volvo need to be contacted about this??
It was parked at a sharp angle with cones around it. The bus station supervisor told the driver of my X10 to reverse out.
Not major but 30852 is on the 4H again today with its interior lights flashing like a disco.
Caught a blue 13 plate b7 earlier on the 42
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 24, 2018, 05:52:50 PM
Caught a blue 13 plate b7 earlier on the 42
And? Hardly like it's not to be expected.
Quote from: Dom on August 24, 2018, 07:24:23 PM
And? Hardly like it's not to be expected.
Could've sworn this was the general Tividale discussion thread, rather than unusual workings ??? ???
Quote from: V89MOA on August 24, 2018, 07:50:10 PM
Could've sworn this was the general Tividale discussion thread, rather than unusual workings ??? ???
Calm down! Simply saying that making a point of a standard liveried bus on a WM Bus route. It's going to happen so its hardly necessary to mention it!
Just saw a picture of 30966 on the main site and it seems the front of the bus is in diamond livery but the rest is still in ex central bus livery with diamond stickers on
So my point is why don't they paint it fully I know there going to have to wait because there going to pain some buses for the new 31/32 route but after that I accspect they should be in next for paint
I believe it had front end damage & so had another scrapped enviro front grafted on
Quote from: Steveminor on August 29, 2018, 08:19:28 AM
I believe it had front end damage & so had another scrapped enviro front grafted on
Oh ok didn't know that
Just saw the diamond timetable and in my opinion I think it is going to do well
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 30, 2018, 11:17:41 PM
Just saw the new joined timetable at lower farm for the 32 and it seems on Saturday there is on at I think after 8:30 and the next one is about after 21:00 so I don't why it's wat I've seen in lower farm so I don't know if they will be doing a lot of the 31 routes then it's just my opinion
What??
that makes aboslutlely no sense at all
this guy seems to comment on every single thread even though he has no clue what hes actually talking about :-* :-*
Quote from: cris 99 on August 31, 2018, 09:17:17 AM
this guy seems to comment on every single thread even though he has no clue what hes actually talking about :-* :-*
What I'm saying is there's a big gap between 8:00 and 21:00 on Saturdays
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 31, 2018, 06:04:38 PM
What I'm saying is there's a big gap between 8:00 and 21:00 on Saturdays
What big gap?
I've just looked at the timetable and there is a bus at 19:59, 20:19, 20:39 and 20:59, hardley a big gap.
Quote from: 2206 on August 31, 2018, 06:07:01 PM
WHat big gap, i've just looked at the timetable and there is a bus at 19:59, 20:19, 20:39 and 20:59.
At lower farm
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 31, 2018, 06:11:29 PM
At lower farm
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=33032&sup=L&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_49405594&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Go to Saturday and there is no big gap.
There is a 32 at 19:59, 20:19, 20:39 and 20:59 at Lower Farm.
There's no big gap.
21101 currently on 226 with no front trim ( the rectanglular bit under the windscreen missing)
See Diamond are in no hurry to debrand the 301/302 vehicles them!
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2018, 03:45:41 PM
See Diamond are in no hurry to debrand the 301/302 vehicles them!
I expect they've been very busy trying to get sufficient 62/13 plate B7RLE's repanelled / painted & branded for the 31/32 re-launch tomorrow instead! Especially, as TfWM kindly only gave operators two weeks between the re-launch of the 42/43 & 31/32, NXWM haven't even got sufficient E200's completed yet to cover their Pvr on the 42/43.
Quote from: Winston on September 01, 2018, 04:21:09 PM
I expect they've been very busy trying to get sufficient 62/13 plate B7RLE's repanelled / painted & branded for the 31/32 re-launch tomorrow instead! Especially, as TfWM kindly only gave operators two weeks between the re-launch of the 42/43 & 31/32, NXWM haven't even got sufficient E200's completed yet to cover their Pvr on the 42/43.
And the leaflet isn't available in the Travelshop yet either!
(But to give the staff credit, at least they were apparantly printing off the internet copies on request!)
Is the new 32 running today or not cause all I've seen is 31's
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Is the new 32 running today or not cause all I've seen is 31's
According to a chap I know on Facebook, the first 904am didn't appear but the next one did.
I haven't been out, so looking forward to the 'fun & games' tomorrow morning!
(It appears the bus I would catch is still an NX, according to the timetable!)
Quote from: Westy on September 02, 2018, 10:13:10 PM
According to a chap I know on Facebook, the first 904am didn't appear but the next one did.
I haven't been out, so looking forward to the 'fun & games' tomorrow morning!
(It appears the bus I would catch is still an NX, according to the timetable!)
Thanks u just got on one back from lower farm into walsall
Diamond ex Central Presidents 40630/2 have now left at Tividale, as per this photo of them at Preston. I know 40631 has been at Redditch so may stay at Diamond but I'm not sure...
(Not my photo) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/43539275695/in/photostream/
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 03, 2018, 03:24:41 PM
Diamond ex Central Presidents 40630/2 have now left at Tividale, as per this photo of them at Preston. I know 40631 has been at Redditch so may stay at Diamond but I'm not sure...
(Not my photo) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mjrprestonbus/43539275695/in/photostream/
I think 40631 is parked up at the back of Redditch depot VOR at present
Quote from: Winston on September 03, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
I think 40631 is parked up at the back of Redditch depot VOR at present
I haven't been for a while so wouldnt have seen it there but thanks for info. I know it was in service on the 57/58 quite frequently until it was broke. Maybe it will be repaired to replace Non-DDA 40544 as surely that's getting on a bit now.... ?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 03, 2018, 03:29:46 PM
I haven't been for a while so wouldnt have seen it there but thanks for info. I know it was in service on the 57/58 quite frequently until it was broke. Maybe it will be repaired to replace Non-DDA 40544 as surely that's getting on a bit now.... ?
It's parked up in the background of this very recent shot:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1973839552673511&set=gm.542518852858596&type=3&theater&ifg=1
I'm not sure Redditch have any requirements for a double decker, 40540-3 are all now withdrawn. I think 40631 will eventually join it's sisters at Preston.
Quote from: Winston on September 03, 2018, 03:42:50 PM
It's parked up in the background of this very recent shot:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1973839552673511&set=gm.542518852858596&type=3&theater&ifg=1
I'm not sure Redditch have any requirements for a double decker, 40540-3 are all now withdrawn. I think 40631 will eventually join it's sisters at Preston.
I believe it is due to go to Preston, it is currently sat in the yard VOR, however has been on the road since it broke down. The only requirement Redditch have for a decker is the 301 school.
got on a late night diamond yesterday and a young man gets on with national express west midlands mticket and the diamond driver said show me the date on the mticket and the young man said this is what hes paid for so the young man got off the bus and had to wait another 15 minutes for a west midlands should the driver let him on or was he right to say your not aloud to use this on this bus
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
got on a late night diamond yesterday and a young man gets on with national express west midlands mticket and the diamond driver said show me the date on the mticket and the young man said this is what hes paid for so the young man got off the bus and had to wait another 15 minutes for a west midlands should the driver let him on or was he right to say your not aloud to use this on this bus
Hows anyone going to know what date was on the ticket without seeing it?
Quote from: 2206 on September 03, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
Hows anyone going to know what date was on the ticket without seeing it?
the driver asked what the date was and when he showed it it said today and driver still asked show me the date even though it was today
(when i mean today i mean yesterday when it happened)
if u didnt understand the last post i just didnt word it propaly
here we go again
try looking at the thread your posting on there is one called diamond discussion. this thread is for buses and routes from tividale
1 bus out on 31/32 service to day in the new wmbus red livery
Quote from: cris 99 on September 03, 2018, 06:28:42 PM
try looking at the thread your posting on there is one called diamond discussion. this thread is for buses and routes from tividale
I'll keep that in mind thanks
3 former Central E200s still displaying old route numbers on the 31
The other 2 red buses for 31 &32 now out see photo links for
Photos which are 30940 30941
30927 and 30940 I think
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 04:14:35 PM
got on a late night diamond yesterday and a young man gets on with national express west midlands mticket and the diamond driver said show me the date on the mticket and the young man said this is what hes paid for so the young man got off the bus and had to wait another 15 minutes for a west midlands should the driver let him on or was he right to say your not aloud to use this on this bus
A friend of mine has showed me how he can change the date on his phone and open the app in Aeroplane Mode and have an extra day or so from his tickets, so the driver was entirely justified in asking him in my opinion. The chap should've just showed him if he had nothing to hide.
30807 missed out a few trips on the 002 this morning
30929 missed out a few trips yesterday and today also broke down and had to be replaced. How about repairing the bus?
Any one what the optare versa is on the 4H this evening?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on September 25, 2018, 05:22:43 PM
Any one what the optare versa is on the 4H this evening?
30969 & 30970 from Tamworth have been seen operating out of Tividale, may well be one of those.
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2018, 05:38:38 PM
30969 & 30970 from Tamworth have been seen operating out of Tividale, may well be one of those.
30970.
Isn't Tamworth just an outstation for Tividale?
It seems to be managed by Tividale and on the Ticketer machines, all of Tamworth's vehicles are under Tividale depot.
Quote from: MW on September 25, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
Isn't Tamworth just an outstation for Tividale?
It seems to be managed by Tividale and on the Ticketer machines, all of Tamworth's vehicles are under Tividale depot.
You will know more than me, the only other thing to throw in the mix, Tamworth does have it's own allocation of buses.
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2018, 05:38:38 PM
30969 & 30970 from Tamworth have been seen operating out of Tividale, may well be one of those.
30970 was the versa on the 4H
30302 also on 4H
Quote from: Winston on September 25, 2018, 05:38:38 PM
30969 & 30970 from Tamworth have been seen operating out of Tividale, may well be one of those.
So has '15' plate E200 30971, saw a photo of that working the 74 today.
The 13 hasn't been running most of the day now
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 25, 2018, 01:41:00 PM
The 13 hasn't been running most of the day now
I caught the 09:46 142 from Stourbridge and the 13 was observed broken down over Fatherless Barn. Why they couldn't find a replacement? A 002 was also seen broken down around the Spies Lane area.
30963 was displaying 16 to Kingsbury via Ventura park when it was on the 401E today and how I know this,is it came into Walsall with 401E on and left displaying 16 with passengers on
20885 was today's bus on the 53.
I saw it on Cole Hall Lane in Buckland End at about 15:30 heading towards Stechford and Erdington. (15:19 from Smiths Wood it seems)
The route number hasn't been programmed into the display as it was diving around with "Diamond Bus" on the display all day. There wasn't even a paper route number on display in the windscreen.
If you didn't know otherwise, you'd think it was out of service and considering it's their first day on the route and there's bound to be people expecting an Igo bus to turn up and it's now operating at an hourly frequency, that's not good at all in my opinion, as people could potentially let it go past thinking it's Out Of Service.
@Simon Dunn .
I am not sure why this happened. However, I have spoken to the depot this morning about checking the blinds before the bus departs
Hi all can anyone tell me please if 20540 is still around as I have not seen it in a while info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Saw 53s yesterday & they did have the blinds displaying correctly
The new mercs are out and in service
How many are in service so far
2 new Mellor minis out see photo link for pic
How many are there in service
Quote from: mark114 on October 31, 2018, 02:04:56 PM
How many are there in service
Two at least. I noted 21205 on the 30/74A and caught 21209 on the 64 while passing through West Bromwich this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on October 31, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
Two at least. I noted 21205 on the 30/74A and caught 21209 on the 64 while passing through West Bromwich this afternoon.
What they like to travel on?
Quote from: Winston on October 31, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
What they like to travel on?
I've been on two today too the same ones as Nathan. I love them, nippy things too. The radio was on both journeys I went on which was nice too. Give me these over a platinum any day. The engine is remarkably quiet too. Notice a couple of differences from the demo they had though. No wooden floor effect on these or seatbelts.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 31, 2018, 04:40:11 PM
I've been on two today too the same ones as Nathan. I love them, nippy things too. The radio was on both journeys I went on which was nice too. Give me these over a platinum any day. The engine is remarkably quiet too. Notice a couple of differences from the demo they had though. No wooden floor effect on these or seatbelts.
They've got radios?? I wonder if they've got AUX/Bluetooth then... pair your phone and put some Spotify on whilst driving 😂😂
Quote from: MW on October 31, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
They've got radios?? I wonder if they've got AUX/Bluetooth then... pair your phone and put some Spotify on whilst driving 😂😂
Yeah listened to heart FM and bbc radio 1. I really hope they don't get told to turn them off
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 31, 2018, 04:40:11 PM
I've been on two today too the same ones as Nathan. I love them, nippy things too. The radio was on both journeys I went on which was nice too. Give me these over a platinum any day. The engine is remarkably quiet too. Notice a couple of differences from the demo they had though. No wooden floor effect on these or seatbelts.
Quote from: MW on October 31, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
They've got radios?? I wonder if they've got AUX/Bluetooth then... pair your phone and put some Spotify on whilst driving 😂😂
I hate to come across as a killjoy here, but the radios on these buses may need to be turned off (presumably if they are tuned to radio stations playing music) unless Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence to do so. Perhaps
@Simon Dunn might be able to clarify this.
https://www.prsformusic.com/licences
In a previous employment, we used to enjoy listening to the radio at work. After we moved our telesales staff (including myself) into a new retail area open to the public, we were banned from playing any music or listening to the radio, as this became classed as a 'public broadcast', and thus we would need a PRS licence, which our company refused to pay for, after we received several warning letters and phone-calls.
Personally, I think its a bit ridiculous really, if I walk along the street listening to the radio through headphones thats perfectly fine, but if I walk into a shop or onto a coach/bus that's playing the same radio station through a speaker then they need a licence to do so?
Quote from: Stu on October 31, 2018, 07:05:39 PM
I hate to come across as a killjoy here, but the radios on these buses may need to be turned off (presumably if they are tuned to radio stations playing music) unless Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence to do so. Perhaps @Simon Dunn might be able to clarify this.
https://www.prsformusic.com/licences
In a previous employment, we used to enjoy listening to the radio at work. After we moved our telesales staff (including myself) into a new retail area open to the public, we were banned from playing any music or listening to the radio, as this became classed as a 'public broadcast', and thus we would need a PRS licence, which our company refused to pay for, after we received several warning letters and phone-calls.
Personally, I think its a bit ridiculous really, if I walk along the street listening to the radio through headphones thats perfectly fine, but if I walk into a shop or onto a coach/bus that's playing the same radio station through a speaker then they need a licence to do so?
Don't be a kill joy.
@Simon Dunn the people really liked the music and added to their already positive remarks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 31, 2018, 07:23:23 PM
Don't be a kill joy. @Simon Dunn the people really liked the music and added to their already positive remarks
As I said, I don't want to be a killjoy and if Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence then its not a problem, but I was just pointing out that I don't want this to become a problem for Diamond if they don't, based on my own previous experience.
Quote from: Stu on October 31, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
As I said, I don't want to be a killjoy and if Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence then its not a problem, but I was just pointing out that I don't want this to become a problem for Diamond if they don't, based on my own previous experience.
The laws stupid ain't it.
NX buses play music too, when local chavy clientele play their fast talking music
Thank you so much Nathan for your reply apologies for my late reply info was greatly appreciated thank you
Quote from: Stu on October 31, 2018, 07:05:39 PM
I hate to come across as a killjoy here, but the radios on these buses may need to be turned off (presumably if they are tuned to radio stations playing music) unless Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence to do so. Perhaps @Simon Dunn might be able to clarify this.
https://www.prsformusic.com/licences
In a previous employment, we used to enjoy listening to the radio at work. After we moved our telesales staff (including myself) into a new retail area open to the public, we were banned from playing any music or listening to the radio, as this became classed as a 'public broadcast', and thus we would need a PRS licence, which our company refused to pay for, after we received several warning letters and phone-calls.
Personally, I think its a bit ridiculous really, if I walk along the street listening to the radio through headphones thats perfectly fine, but if I walk into a shop or onto a coach/bus that's playing the same radio station through a speaker then they need a licence to do so?
The PRS (Performing Rights Society https://www.prsformusic.com/) represents the songwriter, composer and music publisher members' performing rights, and collects royalties on their behalf whenever their music is played or performed publicly. When you buy a record / CD or download a track then part of what you pay goes to PRS. The same occurs when you attend a concert, part of the ticket price is paid to the PRS.
So if Rotala has not got a PRS licence they could be seen to be making money out of the musicians who composed / performed the music that they are playing without giving any of that money to them.
Since Rotala has coaches I would think it's highly likely to have a prs licence
Me & one of my workmates saw one of those this morning on the Black Country Route displaying Rifle Range!
Quote from: Stu on October 31, 2018, 07:05:39 PM
I hate to come across as a killjoy here, but the radios on these buses may need to be turned off (presumably if they are tuned to radio stations playing music) unless Diamond/Rotala has a PRS licence to do so. Perhaps @Simon Dunn might be able to clarify this.
https://www.prsformusic.com/licences
In a previous employment, we used to enjoy listening to the radio at work. After we moved our telesales staff (including myself) into a new retail area open to the public, we were banned from playing any music or listening to the radio, as this became classed as a 'public broadcast', and thus we would need a PRS licence, which our company refused to pay for, after we received several warning letters and phone-calls.
Personally, I think its a bit ridiculous really, if I walk along the street listening to the radio through headphones thats perfectly fine, but if I walk into a shop or onto a coach/bus that's playing the same radio station through a speaker then they need a licence to do so?
Yes we do
Quote from: Westy on November 01, 2018, 05:08:27 PM
Me & one of my workmates saw one of those this morning on the Black Country Route displaying Rifle Range!
Rifle Range is the destination of Kidderminster service 1
A Paxton Centro was on the 35/A/B today
Is 21001 withdrawn or not looks pretty messed up to me last time I saw it
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 03, 2018, 11:57:06 PM
Is 21001 withdrawn or not looks pretty messed up to me last time I saw it
It was VOR for a couple of months and thought unlikely to come back and was to be scrapped, but is temporarily back in service, is expected to only be this for month, hence it's appearance.
I got to get a photo of it then most likely going to be in West Bromwich an thank you
@Winston
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 03, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
30970 displaying 301 and 302 as its on until midnight a lot of people didn't get on it at 19:30 from Walsall as they thought it was a shuttle service
Why would people think its a shuttle service? Hasn't been that long since the 301/302 changed to 31/32
Every chance they're not catching it because they're being snobbish and waiting for an nx bus
Probably getting confused because there was a firework display at the arboretum so probably though that
confused lol its on the same stop as 31/32 with 301 on it anytone with a brain would realise ita a 31/32 if it was a firework display bu it would be on another stop
I was waiting since just before 1800 in Bilston Bus Station for a 229, the 1805 departure didn't show up until 20 minutes later, after which he parked in the layover area for a few minutes, then drove off out of service. I spoke with the control office about it on the phone and he should've been in service, yet was apparently driving down the route displaying Not in Service. The 1848 departure was on time at least, but it still meant waiting for a good while in Bilston. If only delay repay applied to buses.
Tividale operate the 75 too?
@Matt.N0056 Seems PVR is 3 at midday?
Quote from: StourValley98 on November 06, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
I was waiting since just before 1800 in Bilston Bus Station for a 229, the 1805 departure didn't show up until 20 minutes later, after which he parked in the layover area for a few minutes, then drove off out of service. I spoke with the control office about it on the phone and he should've been in service, yet was apparently driving down the route displaying Not in Service. The 1848 departure was on time at least, but it still meant waiting for a good while in Bilston. If only delay repay applied to buses.
Oh grow up! Even at that time of the day there's plenty of alternatives to the 229. Sick of these keyboard eejits bating Diamond day in day out! Before a smart arse says anything, you can't unread what you don't approve of, usually you open the thread expecting some gen, not whining kids. Don't see people so quick to point out the failures of other operators, funny that eh?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 06, 2018, 10:01:23 PM
Oh grow up! Even at that time of the day there's plenty of alternatives to the 229. Sick of these keyboard eejits bating Diamond day in day out! Before a smart arse says anything, you can't unread what you don't approve of, usually you open the thread expecting some gen, not whining kids. Don't see people so quick to point out the failures of other operators, funny that eh?
Who are you telling to grow up? What other bus goes to Sedgley at that time of evening from there other than the 229?
If Diamond make an error or do something wrong I'll post about it, same with NX or any other operator.
This is a general thread about Diamond's services from Tividale depot, I'll post about it here if I like. Try to grow up yourself and stop backseat moderating some time.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 06, 2018, 09:58:10 PM
Tividale operate the 75 too? @Matt.N0056
Seems PVR is 3 at midday?
Tividale just do two trips to cover for breaks. I believe they are using their own bus for this again.
Any one what the tividale bus does after cover the breaks on 75 service thanks
The destination display on 21109 yesterday was messed up if goes normal then it says 401E 401E 401E
(As you can guess it was on a 401E)
Also today a Volvo B7RLE UID was displaying on the 29 today,the usual 29 blakenall but instead of via Coalpool it was service withdrawn on 25/11/18 but actually it's withdrawing on the 30/11/18 so there's abit of a mixup there
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 11, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
The destination display on 21109 yesterday was messed up if goes normal then it says 401E 401E 401E
(As you can guess it was on a 401E)
21109's display has been like that for months.
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 11, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
The destination display on 21109 yesterday was messed up if goes normal then it says 401E 401E 401E
(As you can guess it was on a 401E)
Also today a Volvo B7RLE UID was displaying on the 29 today,the usual 29 blakenall but instead of via Coalpool it was service withdrawn on 25/11/18 but actually it's withdrawing on the 30/11/18 so there's abit of a mixup there
Now that's a first!
Obviously NX have advertised changes to routes that are continuing in a different form(301 & 302 becoming 31 & 32), but no one has never advertised on a display that a route is being withdrawn, to my knowledge!
Quote from: Westy on November 11, 2018, 09:13:41 PM
Now that's a first!
Obviously NX have advertised changes to routes that are continuing in a different form(301 & 302 becoming 31 & 32), but no one has never advertised on a display that a route is being withdrawn, to my knowledge!
It looked like either 30885 or 30882 because if the yellow bars on it The side display it was withdrawin 25/11/18 and the back was normal 29
How I know this is my auntie told me but she didn't see the fleet number
30949 was out today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
30949 was out today
Repainted? Or still in as arrived condition?
Wessex livery think it was on the 4/4h today
Quote from: Solo1 on November 12, 2018, 10:48:12 PM
Wessex livery think it was on the 4/4h today
I think it's meant to be being repainted in TfWM livery at some point, but it's been at Tividale a while now.
Quote from: Winston on November 12, 2018, 09:34:24 PM
Repainted? Or still in as arrived condition?
Wessex livery
30949 had been operating Tamworth 16 services for a few weeks
Quote from: broma1k on November 13, 2018, 09:19:38 AM
30949 had been operating Tamworth 16 services for a few weeks
It's been on the 50 from Tividale before that
I saw it on the 16W on Saturday around 1415 at West Bromwich bound for Brum
Quote from: mark114 on November 13, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
I saw it on the 16W on Saturday around 1415 at West Bromwich bound for Brum
Has been on the 16/w today again.
30949 was on the 31/32 today link in photo page
I pass the tividale depot on a regular basis I have noticed on the the lower car park towards the back 2 gemnis in TFL colours ,greenbus , 2 presidents in diamond livery what's the story on these , the two presidents are these the ex first midland red buses used on the 141 service from new street station
Quote from: 2900 on December 10, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
I pass the tividale depot on a regular basis I have noticed on the the lower car park towards the back 2 gemnis in TFL colours ,greenbus , 2 presidents in diamond livery what's the story on these , the two presidents are these the ex first midland red buses used on the 141 service from new street station
The Gemini's will most likely be VDL/Gemini's ex Wessex (new to Arriva London), 40210 & 40211 are the only two VOR still in allover red.
The Presidents will be from 40540-3, 40540 & 40543 are the two in Diamond Livery, 40541 & 40542 are in Green Preston bus livery
KU52RXT BEEN rear ended in Dudley as I went past the scene the whole of the rear end was caved in by a huge arctic.
Quote from: Martin on December 10, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
KU52RXT BEEN rear ended in Dudley as I went past the scene the whole of the rear end was caved in by a huge arctic.
Hopefully it will be withdrawn and scrapped, an awful Dart.
Quote from: Jack on December 10, 2018, 05:12:50 PM
Hopefully it will be withdrawn and scrapped, an awful Dart.
Agreed, it's a rattly, bumpy, noisy mess, although it isn't too bad speed wise. Very uncomfortable to ride though.
I saw this Hanson liveried single deck being dragged back to tividale depot at tesco burnt tree the rear had severe damage more so on the right side , I did think no way they gona repair that , parts fodder now me finks.
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 11, 2018, 12:23:05 AM
Agreed, it's a rattly, bumpy, noisy mess, although it isn't too bad speed wise. Very uncomfortable to ride though.
See my review of it in the review thread from the 30th June. It's a vile Dart.
Has anyone seen 30943 lately? Is that still in Diamond Blue or has is gained TfWM livery?
I understand 30949 was due to receive TfWM as well. Not seen that for a while.
Quote from: Winston on December 20, 2018, 11:04:06 PM
Has anyone seen 30943 lately? Is that still in Diamond Blue or has is gained TfWM livery?
I understand 30949 was due to receive TfWM as well. Not seen that for a while.
It was on the 4H a couple of days ago if that helps
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 21, 2018, 12:40:10 AM
It was on the 4H a couple of days ago if that helps
Which was one was?
30943 is still branded for 4/4H and was out yestrerday
Yet another bus refuses to scan and accept my Network pass on my Swift card, 30638 this time. Already called up about it and they don't seem to care. What a joke.
Solo's 20539 & 20828 appear to be recent withdrawals parked up in John St yard. 40540-3 ex Preston are all in John St along with at least 3 ex Wessex VDL / Gemini's. A number of scrappers appear to have left from the bottom of the yard & half the existing office block has been demolished.
In the main depot, there's an allover white DF Streetlite, an allover white Mercedes Tourismo coach (12204?), Solo 20055 is still in Regal Busways livery and 30201 is still parked up, all are in the VOR section nearest the road.
Quote from: Winston on December 27, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
Solo's 20539 & 20828 appear to be recent withdrawals parked up in John St yard. 40540-3 ex Preston are all in John St along with at least 3 ex Wessex VDL / Gemini's. A number of scrappers appear to have left from the bottom of the yard & half the existing office block has been demolished.
In the main depot, there's an allover white DF Streetlite, an allover white Mercedes Tourismo coach (12204?), Solo 20055 is still in Regal Busways livery and 30201 is still parked up, all are in the VOR section nearest the road.
Maybe 20055 might go into the new diamond livery
New year and now we have 4Hs running 10 minutes early
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 02, 2019, 01:46:40 PM
New year and now we have 4Hs running 10 minutes early
Or five minutes late perhaps.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 02, 2019, 07:47:47 PM
Or five minutes late perhaps.
Not when it waits 10 minutes at the terminus. Few drivers been doing this as of late. Not sure if intentional or not.
30407 broke today. Why don't they just repair the buses to a good standard. No doubt it will be out tommorow in limp mode again
40631 noted on a school service at Preston.
one of the new Streetlites (AJF) is on the 16/16W; displaying 'Diamond Bus'
not long ago left Hockley for Birmingham
Quote from: CL on February 08, 2019, 02:47:14 PM
one of the new Streetlites (AJF) is on the 16/16W; displaying 'Diamond Bus'
not long ago left Hockley for Birmingham
The one at Kidderminster is doing the same on the 125 but with a paper blind.
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 08, 2019, 02:49:51 PM
The one at Kidderminster is doing the same on the 125 but with a paper blind.
Not a paper blind in sight on 32224 ;) Can imagine VOSA won't be too happy lol
Quote from: CL on February 08, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
Not a paper blind in sight on 32224 ;) Can imagine VOSA won't be too happy lol
Here's a photo I got sent, unsure on the source so credit to whoever took it.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/325387306078961664/543404386538356737/FB_IMG_1549627882888.jpg)
32225 is on the 16W; blinds have been programmed now
There was a WMB liveried B7RLE parked up in Bilston being filled with water before driving off. It was then parked outside the park in Princes End with a Central liveried Versa behind, so presumably that'll be on the 42/43 this afternoon if anyone wants to get a shot.
Hi Guys, am I missing any off my list for the buses which have been painted in TfWM livery?
31/32 branded
BX62FBF
BX62FGD
BX62FZP
BK13NZO
BK13NZR
BK13NZT
42/43 branded
BX62FAK
Quote from: twb1979 on February 19, 2019, 09:07:04 AM
Hi Guys, am I missing any off my list for the buses which have been painted in TfWM livery?
31/32 branded
BX62FBF
BX62FGD
BX62FZP
BK13NZO
BK13NZR
BK13NZT
42/43 branded
BX62FAK
I believe there are 12 in total which are;
30525 - BX62 FEU (42/43 branded)
30526 - BX62 FDC (42/43 branded)
30527 - BX62 FEM (42/43 branded)
30923 - BX62 FGD (31/32 branded)
30924 - BX62 FZL (42/43 branded)
30925 - BX62 FAK (42/43 branded)
30926 - BX62 FBF (31/32 branded)
30927 - BX62 FZP (31/32 branded)
30938 - BX13 NZO (31/32 branded)
30940 - BX13 NZR (31/32 branded)
30941 - BX13 NZS (31/32 branded) ?
30942 - BX13 NZT (31/32 branded)
Quote from: willr7 on February 19, 2019, 12:06:55 PM
I believe there are 12 in total which are;
30525 - BX62 FEU (42/43 branded)
30526 - BX62 FDC (42/43 branded)
30527 - BX62 FEM (42/43 branded)
30923 - BX62 FGD (31/32 branded)
30924 - BX62 FZL (42/43 branded)
30925 - BX62 FAK (42/43 branded)
30926 - BX62 FBF (31/32 branded)
30927 - BX62 FZP (31/32 branded)
30938 - BX13 NZO (31/32 branded)
30940 - BX13 NZR (31/32 branded)
30941 - BX13 NZS (31/32 branded) ? - correct
30942 - BX13 NZT (31/32 branded)
I think at one point 30943 & 30949 were also down for gaining TfWM livery, but plans have since changed
Quote from: Winston on February 19, 2019, 12:18:10 PM
I think at one point 30943 & 30949 were also down for gaining TfWM livery, but plans have since changed
Cheers Lads muchly appreciated.
20736 is parked up at Merry Hill with its engine flap open and engineers in attendance, presumably broken down.
Have all there primos disappeared? Know one is broken in the scrap yard?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 24, 2019, 04:31:14 PM
Have all there primos disappeared? Know one is broken in the scrap yard?
Yes, All 7 Primo's have been Withdrawn. Looking at pictures, at least 4 of them are/were in the Scrapyard, not sure where the other 3 are (they are probably hidden behind other stuff in the scrapyard)
Quote from: willr7 on February 24, 2019, 05:07:00 PM
Yes, All 7 Primo's have been Withdrawn. Looking at pictures, at least 4 of them are/were in the Scrapyard, not sure where the other 3 are (they are probably hidden behind other stuff in the scrapyard)
20809 is the only that's listed on the fleetlist that's in use, but that might be gone.
20809 and 20846 are now both sorn so thats the last 2
New Mellor Strata bodied Mercedes Benz Sprinter 516CDi 21220 (KD68 DVJ) is in service at Tividale now. It's blinds was saying 'Mellor Coachcraft', but it appears to be on the 223 (Bilston to Dudley)
Quote from: Nathan on February 25, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
New Mellor Strata bodied Mercedes Benz Sprinter 516CDi 21220 (KD68 DVJ) is in service at Tividale now. It's blinds was saying 'Mellor Coachcraft', but it appears to be on the 223 (Bilston to Dudley)
I think 21218 (KD68 DVG) is at Tividale too as the other 3 (21216-7 & 21219) are at Redditch.
I noticed 30858 in West Bromwich earlier with 4H Halesowen on the blind, is this a mistake or do they have that for short workings now? Haven't seen it before.
Also saw an ex-Central Solo on the layover area in Dudley Bus Station with 'Diamond Buses' on the blind and 17 on paper in the window.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 01, 2019, 07:54:55 PM
I noticed 30858 in West Bromwich earlier with 4H Halesowen on the blind, is this a mistake or do they have that for short workings now? Haven't seen it before.
Also saw an ex-Central Solo on the layover area in Dudley Bus Station with 'Diamond Buses' on the blind and 17 on paper in the window.
That's a mistake re the 4H. None terminate at Halesowen although it's not uncommon for drivers to run short if there very late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2019, 09:19:45 PM
That's a mistake re the 4H. None terminate at Halesowen although it's not uncommon for drivers to run short if there very late
I thought that, but it wasn't in the usual style, it just said 'Halesowen' with no via points, like how NX do it with E workings.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 01, 2019, 09:40:04 PM
I thought that, but it wasn't in the usual style, it just said 'Halesowen' with no via points, like how NX do it with E workings.
Like this?
https://flic.kr/p/24d2XPf
Quote from: MW on March 01, 2019, 09:45:00 PM
Like this?
https://flic.kr/p/24d2XPf
Pretty similar, yes.
30411 doesn't seem to be able to last a whole day in service. Numerous times it's been replaced over the past week. Lots of smoke coming out the exhaust when in service.
These value buses really are a bag of nails
30825 doesn't have a working front display, just side and rear.
20887 has 2 ticket machines
21109 has had a new front LED destination display.
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on March 13, 2019, 04:37:58 PM
20887 has 2 ticket machines
Could you explain a little please? I don't see how a bus can have two?
it is an impossability for any bus to have 2 ticket machines
Quote from: cris 99 on March 14, 2019, 03:36:39 PM
it is an impossability for any bus to have 2 ticket machines
No it's not, one was plugged in & working, the other was resting in nearside front windscreen as a spare / replacement.
Quote from: Winston on March 14, 2019, 03:39:52 PM
No it's not, one was plugged in & working, the other was resting in nearside front windscreen as a spare / replacement.
Ah gotcha, I was trying to rack my head around how you'd mount two of them.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 14, 2019, 04:37:38 PM
Ah gotcha, I was trying to rack my head around how you'd mount two of them.
Sorry for not making it clear
@StourValley98 and
@cris 99 And thanks
@Winston
no problem i understand it now lol
30411 broke down again today. Broke down yesterday too. Why do they keep sending it out?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 15, 2019, 07:19:54 PM
30411 broke down again today. Broke down yesterday too. Why do they keep sending it out?
No spare vehicles?
Quote from: Jack on March 15, 2019, 07:22:05 PM
No spare vehicles?
They sent a solo out to replace. People would rather have a solo to start with that can get around reliabiy
anybody any idea what solo went up in brandhall yesterday i guess is the batch 20881/20882/20883
Hi Chris 99 it was 20881
Are 20849 and 20855 still operations out of tividale?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 24, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
Are 20849 and 20855 still operations out of tividale?
withdrawn
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 24, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
Are 20849 and 20855 still operations out of tividale?
20849 was withdrawn ages ago after being written off in an RTC, was an awful bus.
20855 was sold sometime last year.
B7RLE 30509 has been repainted in the new 2 tone blue livery
Quote from: John on March 25, 2019, 09:30:17 PM
B7RLE 30509 has been repainted in the new 2 tone blue livery
Bet that looks smart! Hope it stays away from West Bromwich. The new two tone livery is a massive improvement on allover dark blue.
Quote from: Winston on March 25, 2019, 09:47:18 PM
Bet that looks smart! Hope it stays away from West Bromwich. The new two tone livery is a massive improvement on allover dark blue.
It was on the 40 this afternoon...
In my opinion, I can't understand why they have painted this...
Surely it would make more sense to get all the vehicles that are not in any kind of Diamond Bus livery (e.g. Ex. Central bus, Hansons & Wessex vehicles) into the new livery before re-painting buses that are already in some sort of Diamond livery anyway (vehicles in the old Diamond livery are better than having vehicles running around in previous operators liveries!)
Quote from: willr7 on March 25, 2019, 11:15:44 PM
In my opinion, I can't understand why they have painted this...
Surely it would make more sense to get all the vehicles that are not in any kind of Diamond Bus livery (e.g. Ex. Central bus, Hansons & Wessex vehicles) into the new livery before re-painting buses that are already in some sort of Diamond livery anyway (vehicles in the old Diamond livery are better than having vehicles running around in previous operators liveries!)
Most likely 30509 was repainted following accident repairs.
Didn't 30509 have a bump in west Bromwich some time back think it was on 16w by Tesco
It's on the 4H today, if that's of any interest..
Quote from: Solo1 on March 26, 2019, 06:04:22 AM
Didn't 30509 have a bump in west Bromwich some time back think it was on 16w by Tesco
It hit a lamppost on New Street on the 16W in West Brom, ironically it wasn't the first time 30509 hit a lamppost in West Brom...
A 7th Streetlite has arrived for Tividale. 20167 (SK19 FCG), a photo has been posted on Facebook of it at Merry Hill, still in all over white.
Quote from: Nathan on March 30, 2019, 01:31:43 PM
A 7th Streetlite has arrived for Tividale. 20167 (SK19 FCG), a photo has been posted on Facebook of it at Merry Hill, still in all over white.
Yeah, he came in displaying Diamond Bus, then 24 Dudley, then NIS.
Photo - http://www.trainbasher.com/20167-sk19fcg/
Yes I seem it myself at merry hill this afternoon was not sure at first but the fleet number was clear to see at the rear very smart as well
Apologies if a post as been on here before regarding 20166 with there newest delivery in 20167 it leaves a gap from previous fleet numbers 20161-165/167 can anyone give me any info on this vehicle info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Apart from the 30/74A and the MH13, which other routes are the Tividale Mellors allocated to?
Mainly looking at routes in the S&D nbus zone
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 12, 2019, 04:14:41 PM
Apart from the 30/74A and the MH13, which other routes are the Tividale Mellors allocated to?
Mainly looking at routes in the S&D nbus zone
23 wednesbury. 17B at night often
64 has mellor on
Also normally routes 26A/36/530 in the evening
13, 53
13 23 30/74a 53 erdington 64 74 Walsall other 2 could be on any service that has a mini bus on
Is 20002 still in service?
checked on dvla and 20002 is now sorn
Do they still do the £1.50 short hop?
Hi any idea if there are some more mellors due and if so how many info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Quote from: mark114 on April 18, 2019, 11:06:55 PM
Hi any idea if there are some more mellors due and if so how many info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Only one more to date:
21223 LM19UBC Tividale
The first two have gone to DBNW:
21221 LM19UBB Eccles
21222 LM19UBD Eccles
Quote from: Winston on April 18, 2019, 11:10:25 PM
Only one more to date:
21223 LM19UBC Tividale
The first two have gone to DBNW:
21221 LM19UBB Eccles
21222 LM19UBD Eccles
A photo has appeared on Facebook just of two new Strata's parked at Tividale, along with two repainted Solo SR's (ex Signature 20015 may well be one of them as that was pictured freshly repainted in the new livery last week)
Quote from: Nathan on April 18, 2019, 11:14:03 PM
A photo has appeared on Facebook just of two new Strata's parked at Tividale, along with two repainted Solo SR's (ex Signature 20015 may well be one of them as that was pictured freshly repainted in the new livery last week)
Looking at the above FB picture, LN19UBE is now also at Tividale making two.
Unless the two repainted Solo SR's have allowed the 2 x Strata's (21221 & 21222) to be diverted to Eccles instead ?
Thank you Winston info is as always greatly appreciated just as I was writing this post as said in previous comments there is a picture of 4 on Facebook what I can gather there is supposed to be a further and final delivery around June
Does anyone know when is the ones for KR expected?
Quote from: mark114 on April 18, 2019, 11:26:29 PM
Thank you Winston info is as always greatly appreciated just as I was writing this post as said in previous comments there is a picture of 4 on Facebook what I can gather there is supposed to be a further and final delivery around June
There's no picture of 4. There's 4 buses in the line (2 new Strata's & 2 repainted Solo SR's)
The ones which have arrived I believe they are going to be split 3 for Tividale and 2 for Kidderminster apologies if I have misread the post on Facebook
My sincere apologies Winston I thought there was 4 mellors
Diamond 208 still running
LN19 UBF 21225 reported on the 53 at Erdington today
The tracker suggests it's 21213
Definitly 21225 as above just seen at the Chelmsley terminus.
The tracker showed it as 21220 (intermittently). I went to see 21220 in Erdington and 21225 turned up!
It is most probably because 21225 isn't listed on the ticket machines yet.
Anyone know what vehicles are in paint?
The SK19 streetlite has gained its two tone blue scheme awaiting vinyling
30809 has to be replaced 3 days running. All 3 days were on 4H
30825's front blinds aren't working.
The 231, 20,21 are now allocated Mellors it appears
Big dent on 30526 right above the WMB logo on the nearside
21224 on 68A/C today. Shows (intermittently) as 21220 on tracker
Showing on tracker as 21220 on the 53 is actually 21223 today.It seems 21223-5 all seem to show as 21220.Are they not on tracker in their own right
Another batch of Mellor Strata bodied Mercedes Benz Sprinter 516 CDi's appear to have arrived. Noted 21228 parked just outside Wolverhampton Bus Station this afternoon
Is there a 21226/21227 to go with this fleet or have these 2 gone elsewhere any info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Quote from: mark114 on June 02, 2019, 06:27:35 PM
Is there a 21226/21227 to go with this fleet or have these 2 gone elsewhere any info as always will be greatly appreciated thank you
Yes. 21226 is on the 64 (Wednesbury-West Bromwich) and 21227 is on the Walsall 74. Apparently two are at Preston (i assume 21229/30, although don't quote me on that)
According to blotw 21229_21231 are Preston. No
Thank you Nathan for that info as always it's greatly appreciated and apologies for the late reply
Has any one seen the 3 latest mellor buses today thanks
There was a post on Facebook yesterday I believe from Nathan 21226 was working route 64 and 21227 was working route 74 21228 was parked up outside Wolverhampton bus station
21227- Not Showing On Tracker however is in service between Halesowen and Blackheath
30925- 42/43 Liveried Volvo, destination to the rear says West Bromwich West Bromwich but is pixelated, I'm assuming has been programmed incorrectly instead of number is showing dest
21223 on the 53 today seen on the 14:19 from Chelmsley Wood.Showing as 21220 intermittently on tracker.
Are Diamond 31e 's from Walsall to Bloxwich common?
Quote from: Westy on June 15, 2019, 07:55:46 PM
Are Diamond 31e 's from Walsall to Bloxwich common?
No not really they either stay as a 31 or go not in service
@Trident 4194 why should diamond withdraw the value b7s they are only 11/12 years old
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 18, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
@Trident 4194 why should diamond withdraw the value b7s they are only 11/12 years old
There awful. 30412 has had to be replaced by 30638 already. It's only 10:30.
@Simon Dunn why are these buses so awful. Drivers also saying how awful they are ( 30407-30413)
30410 also broke down. Both on the 4H. Seems to me they can't cope on the 4H. Got itself going again 50 minutes late
One been brokedown at the stag on the 202 today as well
Wasn't broken down - car drove into the bus instead of allowing the bus to go round the island
Quote from: busgeneral on July 03, 2019, 08:55:43 PM
Wasn't broken down - car drove into the bus instead of allowing the bus to go round the island
wasnt any damage to front or off side or rear of bus and the engine compartment cover was up as well when I came back on x10 the engineers breakdown van was there as well
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 02, 2019, 10:31:15 AM
There awful. 30412 has had to be replaced by 30638 already. It's only 10:30. @Simon Dunn why are these buses so awful. Drivers also saying how awful they are ( 30407-30413)
30410 also broke down. Both on the 4H. Seems to me they can't cope on the 4H. Got itself going again 50 minutes late
The buses aren't awful. Like any operator we do have breakdowns, one was due to an overheat on the day and the other down to a suspension fault which occurred in service
Quote from: Simon Dunn on July 09, 2019, 09:42:22 AM
The buses aren't awful. Like any operator we do have breakdowns, one was due to an overheat on the day and the other down to a suspension fault which occurred in service
Ok they aren't awful, but they are poorly maintained compared to pre-acquiring First Redditch and Kidderminster/ your brother leaving midlands with others to set up YourBus. It was noticeable, but I can see how hard it is to keep prices down for customers and costs low to gain maximum income. A lot of the buses do seem to be bags of nails and that's from what I see in Redditch. The pressures of Redditch are the hills as you can't go any where in Redditch with out coming across a hill of some sort somewhere.
Solo 20050 is on the 53; this is usually operated by a Mellor, yes?
It's not been Mellors during the week for a while now.
30816 (BX58 AOO) is the latest vehicle back from repaint into the current two tone blue livery.
30826 has had some of it's wooden floor ripped up and now has a red floor. Looks very odd
anyone know if optare 20920 BU52RHU is still at tividale was branded for 226 i know 30050/51 went to redditch but no sign of 20920
Quote from: cris 99 on July 28, 2019, 06:00:01 AM
anyone know if optare 20920 BU52RHU is still at tividale was branded for 226 i know 30050/51 went to redditch but no sign of 20920
Yes, 20920 is still at Tividale. Ex Signature SR 20014 (YJ10 MFY) has joined it, it was on the 326 the other day.
much appreciated thankyou
Quote from: Nathan on July 28, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
Yes, 20920 is still at Tividale. Ex Signature SR 20014 (YJ10 MFY) has joined it, it was on the 326 the other day.
20014 (YJ10 MFY) was operating in Redditch today, resplendent in the new Diamond livery.
Is 20490 a recent transfer? In new Diamond colours on the 4 today.
Quote from: Jack on August 28, 2019, 10:40:37 AM
Is 20490 a recent transfer? In new Diamond colours on the 4 today.
Yes. Old Wessex. Could have been out of use for a while before repaint
30893 looks well and truly battered, still motors along nicely though
Has 20055 ever entered service or not ?or is it a xmas tree at Tividale?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on September 17, 2019, 01:38:15 PM
Has 20055 ever entered service or not ?or is it a xmas tree at Tividale?
Nope. Still in Regal Busways base colours.
OK thanks
002 seems to always have quite a few streetlites not on the route
Service Changes from October 2019.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/dia-october-19-changes/
Who will be operating the 53? Have NXWM got it? Or is the service being scrapped completely, as it always seem to mostly be empty when I see at various locations.
Quote from: 2206 on September 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM
Service Changes from October 2019.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/dia-october-19-changes/
Who will be operating the 53? Have NXWM got it? Or is the service being scrapped completely, as it always seem to mostly be empty when I see at various locations.
Has NX got back the 5 and going to run it Sunday's perhaps between Dudley and Stourbridge keeping the 30 minute frequency between Stourbridge and Kingswinford with the 17 gone
So with the routes they are losing that must be about another 12 buses less at tividale, they seem to be losing quite a few this year.
Quote from: 2206 on September 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM
Service Changes from October 2019.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/dia-october-19-changes/
Who will be operating the 53? Have NXWM got it? Or is the service being scrapped completely, as it always seem to mostly be empty when I see at various locations.
Evergreen Coaches is the rumour and it will be going to Birmingham City Centre rather than Erdington from October
Quote from: midlandred2003 on September 25, 2019, 02:16:38 PM
So with the routes they are losing that must be about another 12 buses less at tividale, they seem to be losing quite a few this year.
NX seem keen to expand in the WM and their commercial department are getting quite creative at linking tenders in to existing commercial journeys.
Rotala's Manchester ops are now already slightly bigger than the combined Diamond WM ops (Tividale/Tamworth/Kidderminster & Redditch), before any further Pvr losses due to October TfWM tender round.
Quote from: metrocity on September 25, 2019, 02:22:35 PM
Evergreen Coaches is the rumour and it will be going to Birmingham City Centre rather than Erdington from October
Is that a good idea? I mean the 53 mostly carries little to no passengers as it is and there are more frequent services that you can use instead of the 53 for example the 66 is every 20 minutes and runs with the 53 between Erdington and Nechells. The 94 stops near the 53 Smiths Wood terminus while the 14 and 55 serve Glebe Farm and Shard End respectively.
Quote from: metrocity on September 25, 2019, 02:22:35 PM
Evergreen Coaches is the rumour and it will be going to Birmingham City Centre rather than Erdington from October
Isn't that one of the Thandi operations?
Yes
21211 on 4H. Must have replaced 30969, or the driver wanted a nice mellor to drive on his last duty of the day with a bit of music
Courtesy of Rotala - another 9 vehicles were damaged in last nights fire. All look to be already withdrawn in storage.
21015 KU52RXS
21017 KV03ZFM
30121 B15WTS
30211 YD02PZL
30933 VX54MSU
40540 V540ESC
40541 V541ESC
40542 V542ESC
40543 V543ESC
Mellor on 002. It seems that whenever a bus needs replacing they always have one of these spare?
32233 on the 16/W - unusual for a weekday
@Simon Dunn are you experiencing difficulties with the streetlites at the moment? Only it seems they keep getting replaced on the 002. Last night a solo was on there, and this evening a mellor has appeared.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
@Simon Dunn are you experiencing difficulties with the streetlites at the moment? Only it seems they keep getting replaced on the 002. Last night a solo was on there, and this evening a mellor has appeared.
Think I saw a Streetlite on the Wa 31 earlier?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
@Simon Dunn are you experiencing difficulties with the streetlites at the moment? Only it seems they keep getting replaced on the 002. Last night a solo was on there, and this evening a mellor has appeared.
32236 was on the 326 today, with another on the 74 in Walsall.
32234 was on the 326 yesterday with another on the 16/16W
Quote from: Nathan on October 17, 2019, 07:07:01 PM
32236 was on the 326 today, with another on the 74 in Walsall.
32234 was on the 326 yesterday with another on the 16/16W
Yeah but what I'm saying is these solos and mellors don't start the day operating on the service. They replace broken down vehicles. So I just wondered if there were some issues with the streetlites
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
@Simon Dunn are you experiencing difficulties with the streetlites at the moment? Only it seems they keep getting replaced on the 002. Last night a solo was on there, and this evening a mellor has appeared.
We have had a number of Euro 5 vehicles suffer issues, which has resulted in moving some of the fleet around to be contract compliant
Simon
Another fire in the early hours of this morning
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/oldbury/2019/10/22/fire-rips-through-diamond-bus-depot-in-second-blaze/?fbclid=IwAR1LRnBDlYeXhVrO-tHJXug_W1HblvCxWioLmgNaL2KYRch68uG6tD7QFd0
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2019, 07:33:21 PM
Another fire in the early hours of this morning
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/oldbury/2019/10/22/fire-rips-through-diamond-bus-depot-in-second-blaze/?fbclid=IwAR1LRnBDlYeXhVrO-tHJXug_W1HblvCxWioLmgNaL2KYRch68uG6tD7QFd0
These arsonists must really hate Diamond, huh?
The latest batch of buses damaged in the 2nd fire at Tividale, John's Lane (21.10.19) are:
20008 CW03XDM
20604 KP51UFG
20731 FX04WFT
21008 SK52MLN
21013 KU52YLF
30401 BN09FWS
30894 BV55 URA
30945 PO54NNM
Are any, or all of them, repairable?
Quote from: markcf83 on November 02, 2019, 12:17:09 PM
Are any, or all of them, repairable?
They were all withdrawn/scrappers anyway, but are showing on the disposal list - so I doubt worth repairing them and they've been written off.
Thanks for that.
Those bromford Lane roadworks are causing chaos it seems. Hour delays on 4H.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2019, 08:03:53 PM
Those bromford Lane roadworks are causing chaos it seems. Hour delays on 4H.
I cannot see any hour delays?
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2019, 08:31:48 PM
I cannot see any hour delays?
On diamond there is, don't know how badly NX were affected
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 04, 2019, 09:01:17 PM
On diamond there is, don't know how badly NX were affected
20 min was the biggest delay through them
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
20 min was the biggest delay through them
Hour delays again tonight, bet the last one that actually goes all the way to Hayley green will be in 10 mins time. After that they won't bother completing full trips.
@Simon Dunn is there anyway you can ensure the entire route gets a service in these bad conditions. I understand that there's nothing you can do about the water burst, but at least if you were able to turn vehicles at say West Bromwich and then go back to Hayley green rather than having them all follow each other up to Walsall. To then finish in West Bromwich and go back to depot.
No bus from 18:30-19:05
21234- new mellor on 13
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 15, 2019, 12:17:18 PM
21234- new mellor on 13
21232 & 21234 entered service yesterday. On the the 223 & 229 respectively. 21233 entered service on Tuesday on the 57.
Would these new mellors run in order fleet number wise that is e.g 21232-238 or would there be any gaps in them any info would be greatly appreciated thank you
30120 sat in West Bromwich with its engine door ripped off one of its hinges
There was a 002 running to field lane from Weoley Castle , I unfortunately wasn't able ttkcstch the fleet number.
Quote from: mesub on November 19, 2019, 09:10:42 PM
There was a 002 running to field lane from Weoley Castle , I unfortunately wasn't able ttkcstch the fleet number.
Speaking of the 002, why is it numbered like that? Such a peculiar route number don't you think?
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 19, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Speaking of the 002, why is it numbered like that? Such a peculiar route number don't you think?
Been like that for a very long time
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 19, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Speaking of the 002, why is it numbered like that? Such a peculiar route number don't you think?
It's a throwback from when Ludlow's ran the route, they numbered many of there routes starting 00, for example there was the 004 and 006 and I believe a 007
Quote from: Lukeee on November 19, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
It's a throwback from when Ludlow's ran the route, they numbered many of there routes starting 00, for example there was the 004 and 006 and I believe a 007
They were
002 Weoley to Merry Hill
004 Harborne to Merry Hill
006 Halesowen circular
007 Bromsgrove to Merry Hill (which got split to be 217 Merry Hill to Halesowen and 007 Halesowen to Bromsgrove)
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2019, 10:03:46 AM
They were
002 Weoley to Merry Hill
004 Harborne to Merry Hill
006 Halesowen circular
007 Bromsgrove to Merry Hill (which got split to be 217 Merry Hill to Halesowen and 007 Halesowen to Bromsgrove)
I do believe the 007 ran Redditch - Merry Hill and it was only from April 2003 that it changed.
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2019, 10:03:46 AM
They were
002 Weoley to Merry Hill
004 Harborne to Merry Hill
006 Halesowen circular
007 Bromsgrove to Merry Hill (which got split to be 217 Merry Hill to Halesowen and 007 Halesowen to Bromsgrove)
Wasn't the 004 resurrected by Hanson's for a while?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 20, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
Wasn't the 004 resurrected by Hanson's for a while?
Yes, but they withdrew it a couple of years ago.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 20, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
Wasn't the 004 resurrected by Hanson's for a while?
Don't get it why Diamond didn't gave it a chance to run it another year. Since the changes to the 10 routes at West Boulevard, 004 would've been welcomed by OAPs even at hourly service.
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2019, 10:03:46 AM
They were
002 Weoley to Merry Hill
004 Harborne to Merry Hill
006 Halesowen circular
007 Bromsgrove to Merry Hill (which got split to be 217 Merry Hill to Halesowen and 007 Halesowen to Bromsgrove)
Some of you may also remember that back in the early 90s there was the
003 Halesowen to Hayley Green (direct via Hagley Road)
005 Halesowen to Cradley Heath via Belle Vale and Timbertree
They later used the 003 number again around 2003/4 time when one 002 an hour was diverted via Woodgate Valley South.
Diamond initially took on all ludlow routes but quickly withdrew the bits that didn't work for them. 004 was cut to run Halesowen to Harborne only which couldn't compete with the 636 which was extended to halesowen around the same time so was withdrawn.
The 006 was withdrawn but as this interworked with the 230 caused a number of reliability issues when the 230 was ran as a standalone route. This was also withdrawn and
I also recall the 002 being reduced to every 30 minutes. This was later doubled in frequency to every 15 mins and still continues to be a success.
30943 (4/4H) - 42/43
21232 (LN69 OPM) Mellor noted on the 68 today.
21232/33/36 all on the Bloxwich-Kingstanding 25 today.Off to get them now
Quote from: broma1k on December 11, 2019, 12:29:35 PM
21232/33/36 all on the Bloxwich-Kingstanding 25 today.Off to get them now
All 7 (21232-8) are in use now.
21234 & 21237 on the 23 today
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 20, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
Wasn't the 004 resurrected by Hanson's for a while?
Yeah and was probably part of Hansons downfall, takings on it were terrible. Why Hansons stuck with the route as long as they did I'll never know. I've done complete round trips on the 004 in Hansons days and not put a single cash fare in the vault. The 002 used to kill it between Halesowen and Merry Hill as well.
Route branded 20163 on the Walsall 74 today
20159/20164 (226) - Dudley 17
Is this the regular Sunday traction now?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 29, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
20159/20164 (226) - Dudley 17
Is this the regular Sunday traction now?
Its usually a Mellor on an Evening when I get it from the almost but not actually in laws In Kingswinford to Dudley to connect onto the 14.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 29, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
20159/20164 (226) - Dudley 17
Is this the regular Sunday traction now?
The 4H had b7rles today which recently saw those streetlites
What are the easiest routes and also the quietest routes that operate from Tividale?
Quote from: OH25 on January 08, 2020, 11:38:17 PM
What are the easiest routes and also the quietest routes that operate from Tividale?
What do you mean by easiest?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 09, 2020, 07:23:55 AM
What do you mean by easiest?
what routes are not long and complicated?
example: the 50 is pretty straight forward and a straight easy route down to Maypole
Quote from: OH25 on January 09, 2020, 10:31:05 AM
what routes are not long and complicated?
example: the 50 is pretty straight forward and a straight easy route down to Maypole
At a guess the 231 from Blackheath to Halesowen is quite simple there are a few left and rights from Long Lane Libary to the Picture House but over the years the route has been run equally sucessfully by West Midlands Travel, Hansons & currently Rotala.
Quote from: OH25 on January 08, 2020, 11:38:17 PM
What are the easiest routes and also the quietest routes that operate from Tividale?
The 41A/64/40 are good from West Brom to Wednesbury.
16W is quick route and direct
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 09, 2020, 02:01:14 PM
The 41A/64/40 are good from West Brom to Wednesbury.
16W is quick route and direct
Do you know what direct means?
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2020, 02:47:28 PM
Do you know what direct means?
Yes, which one isn't direct?
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2020, 03:24:53 PM
16W
The 16W does keep to the main roads though forget the usual stupid comment from me I do find it quicker from the Hockley Flyover to West Bromwich than the 74 and less crowded and easier to change to either operators 4H outside Sandwell Hospital.
There is a Streetlite at Tividale in the two-tone base paint for the West Midlands Bus livery, I believe it's to replace the off-lease B7RLEs on the 31/32, but I could be mistaken.
Quote from: StourValley98 on January 11, 2020, 07:55:19 PM
There is a Streetlite at Tividale in the two-tone base paint for the West Midlands Bus livery, I believe it's to replace the off-lease B7RLEs on the 31/32, but I could be mistaken.
It may be Streetlite 32240 SL16YPJ (ex Wrightbus Demo was on long term loan to Arriva Southern Counties), that is due to receive WMB livery & will replace a 13 plate B7RLE to return off lease.
or it could be an existing Streetlites (ex Redditch) & will be in WMB base livery potentially for the 40.
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2020, 08:23:41 PM
It may be Streetlite 32240 SL16YPJ (ex Wrightbus Demo was on long term loan to Arriva Southern Counties), that is due to receive WMB livery & will replace a 13 plate B7RLE to return off lease.
or it could be an existing Streetlites (ex Redditch) & will be in WMB base livery potentially for the 40.
Yep, I've just seen a photo and it is that one from Arriva.
Quote from: StourValley98 on January 11, 2020, 11:19:59 PM
Yep, I've just seen a photo and it is that one from Arriva.
Streetdeck 40714 (ex Wrightbus Demo / long-term loan to Arriva SC with 32240) has only very recently arrived at Bolton, I think that may have also been prep'd / painted at Tividale prior to heading north:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bengleeson/49362141686
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2020, 08:23:41 PM
It may be Streetlite 32240 SL16YPJ (ex Wrightbus Demo was on long term loan to Arriva Southern Counties), that is due to receive WMB livery & will replace a 13 plate B7RLE to return off lease.
or it could be an existing Streetlites (ex Redditch) & will be in WMB base livery potentially for the 40.
I guess it will be the Signature Streetlite's which will be repainted into WMB livery & sent to Tividale (Depending on how many vehicles are required for the 40)
30813 on 4H. I hope it's as good as what it was when it left
Quote from: willr7 on January 12, 2020, 10:24:46 PM
I guess it will be the Signature Streetlite's which will be repainted into WMB livery & sent to Tividale (Depending on how many vehicles are required for the 40)
32307/32309 seem to have disappeared. Perhaps they're away for repaint...
Quote from: MW on January 15, 2020, 09:06:37 PM
32307/32309 seem to have disappeared. Perhaps they're away for repaint...
Yes, i've seen a photo of one of that batch parked at Wilcox in Brownhills.
20743 replaced 30407 on 4H
4H looking very central bus liveried today. 30977, a versa, 21110, and another E200 on there today
32238, one of the newly branded Streetlites, is out on the 31/32 today.
Quote from: StourValley98 on January 24, 2020, 10:31:13 AM
32238, one of the newly branded Streetlites, is out on the 31/32 today.
32238 as in SK17HHL ex Wrightbus Demo that's been at Bolton?
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2020, 10:52:36 AM
32238 as in SK17HHL ex Wrightbus Demo that's been at Bolton?
Yes.
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2020, 11:16:03 AM
Yes.
Ta. Hadn't realised that had left DBNW & been painted yet. Thought it might have been SL16YPJ.
Quote from: Winston on January 24, 2020, 11:22:20 AM
Ta. Hadn't realised that had left DBNW & been painted yet. Thought it might have been SL16YPJ.
I believe that one (32240) was branded up in depot the other day too.
32238 was in West Bromwich Bus Station on Tuesday Afternoon I could not see if was allocated to a Diamomd Bus Service serving my hometown.
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2020, 11:24:55 AM
I believe that one (32240) was branded up in depot the other day too.
Yes, I've seen pictures of 32240 & also 32307 in TfWM base livery.
32238 was in West Bromwich Bus Station on Tuesday Afternoon I could not see if was allocated to a Diamomd Bus Service serving my hometown The West Midlands Bus livery of TfWM looks quite superb on these buses and is of course expected to be standard livery for all operators as the Quality Enhanced Partnerships are developed by TfWM for WMCA. The Mayor was very interested in his own bus livery designed for him.
Have the 13 plates 30938/30940-3 left yet?
Quote from: cris 99 on January 24, 2020, 11:50:12 AM
Have the 13 plates 30938/30940-3 left yet?
Doubt it, they will need to be repainted allover white & returned to the lessor in tip/top condition.
The wonderful 30885 - smoke is still bellowing out the rear of the exhaust, and now it has developed a horrible burning rubber smell- so had to be taken back to depot- back out again now it seems!
Quote from: BH2004 on February 07, 2020, 09:48:50 PM
16/16W, 50 and 226
The 50 is operated by Redditch.
Tividale operate:
002 Weoley Castle to Intu Merry Hill
4/4H Walsall to West Bromwich/Hayley Green
13 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
16/16W Birmingham to Hamstead/West Bromwich
17 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
17A (evenings and Sundays) Stourbridge to Dudley
20 Oldbury to Bearwood
21 Oldbury to Bearwood
22 Wednesbury to Tipton (Circular)
23 Portobello to Wednesbury
23 Bloxwich to White Horse Road
25 Bloxwich to Kingstanding
25 Ward End to Erdington
26A (Evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Stowlawn
30 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
31 Walsall to Mossley (joint operated with NXWM)
32 Walsall to Lower Farm (joint operated with NXWM)
36 (Evenings and Sundays) Walsall to Alumwell
40 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
41/41A West Brom to Friar Park (41)/Wednesbury (41A)
41 (Sunday evenings only) Walsall to Willenhall
42 West Bromwich to Tipton/Dudley (joint operated with NXWM)
43/43A West Bromwich to Bilston (joint operated with NXWM)
57 Wolverhampton to Bilston
61 Handsworth to Perry Barr
63 Wolverhampton to Bradmore
64 Wolverhampton to Wakeley Hill
64 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
65 Wolverhampton to Fordhouses
65 Darlaston to Woods Estate
66 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
68A/C Perry Barr to Aston (circular)
71 (Sunday daytime only) Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood
74 Walsall to Gillity Village
74A West Bromwich to Dudley
75 Birmingham International Station to Birmingham Business Park (peak times only)
78 Sutton Coldfield to Queslett Island
80 Bilston to Moxley
82 (evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Dudley
89 Erdington to Kingstanding
108 (peak time only) Erdington to Sutton Coldfield then onto Birmingham
223 Dudley to Bilston
224 Sedgley to Bilston
226 Dudley to Intu Merry Hill
229 Dudley to Bilston
231 Blackheath to Halesowen
310 Willenhall to Wesnesbury
326 Bilston to Bloxwich
401E Walsall to Yew Tree (Circular)
530 (Evenings & Sundays) Wolverhampton to Rocket Pool.
There's also the 40 (Newton Rd-St Francis Assisi School) school run.
I'm not 100% it it's Tividale or Tamworth run... the 35A (Walsall to Greenleigh) possibly as well.
Quote from: Nathan on February 08, 2020, 01:34:45 AM
The 50 is operated by Redditch.
Tividale operate:
002 Weoley Castle to Intu Merry Hill
4/4H Walsall to West Bromwich/Hayley Green
13 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
16/16W Birmingham to Hamstead/West Bromwich
17 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
17A (evenings and Sundays) Stourbridge to Dudley
20 Oldbury to Bearwood
21 Oldbury to Bearwood
22 Wednesbury to Tipton (Circular)
23 Portobello to Wednesbury
23 Bloxwich to White Horse Road
25 Bloxwich to Kingstanding
25 Ward End to Erdington
26A (Evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Stowlawn
30 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
31 Walsall to Mossley (joint operated with NXWM)
32 Walsall to Lower Farm (joint operated with NXWM)
36 (Evenings and Sundays) Walsall to Alumwell
40 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
41/41A West Brom to Friar Park (41)/Wednesbury (41A)
41 (Sunday evenings only) Walsall to Willenhall
42 West Bromwich to Tipton/Dudley (joint operated with NXWM)
43/43A West Bromwich to Bilston (joint operated with NXWM)
57 Wolverhampton to Bilston
61 Handsworth to Perry Barr
63 Wolverhampton to Bradmore
64 Wolverhampton to Wakeley Hill
64 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
65 Wolverhampton to Fordhouses
65 Darlaston to Woods Estate
66 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
68A/C Perry Barr to Aston (circular)
71 (Sunday daytime only) Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood
74 Walsall to Gillity Village
74A West Bromwich to Dudley
75 Birmingham International Station to Birmingham Business Park (peak times only)
78 Sutton Coldfield to Queslett Island
80 Bilston to Moxley
82 (evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Dudley
89 Erdington to Kingstanding
108 (peak time only) Erdington to Sutton Coldfield then onto Birmingham
223 Dudley to Bilston
224 Sedgley to Bilston
226 Dudley to Intu Merry Hill
229 Dudley to Bilston
231 Blackheath to Halesowen
310 Willenhall to Wesnesbury
326 Bilston to Bloxwich
401E Walsall to Yew Tree (Circular)
530 (Evenings & Sundays) Wolverhampton to Rocket Pool.
There's also the 40 (Newton Rd-St Francis Assisi School) school run.
I'm not 100% it it's Tividale or Tamworth run... the 35A (Walsall to Greenleigh) possibly as well.
& 91A/C Chelmsley Wood - Marston Green circular
Quote from: Nathan on February 08, 2020, 01:34:45 AM
The 50 is operated by Redditch.
Tividale operate:
002 Weoley Castle to Intu Merry Hill
4/4H Walsall to West Bromwich/Hayley Green
13 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
16/16W Birmingham to Hamstead/West Bromwich
17 Halesowen to Intu Merry Hill
17A (evenings and Sundays) Stourbridge to Dudley
20 Oldbury to Bearwood
21 Oldbury to Bearwood
22 Wednesbury to Tipton (Circular)
23 Portobello to Wednesbury
23 Bloxwich to White Horse Road
25 Bloxwich to Kingstanding
25 Ward End to Erdington
26A (Evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Stowlawn
30 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
31 Walsall to Mossley (joint operated with NXWM)
32 Walsall to Lower Farm (joint operated with NXWM)
36 (Evenings and Sundays) Walsall to Alumwell
40 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
41/41A West Brom to Friar Park (41)/Wednesbury (41A)
41 (Sunday evenings only) Walsall to Willenhall
42 West Bromwich to Tipton/Dudley (joint operated with NXWM)
43/43A West Bromwich to Bilston (joint operated with NXWM)
57 Wolverhampton to Bilston
61 Handsworth to Perry Barr
63 Wolverhampton to Bradmore
64 Wolverhampton to Wakeley Hill
64 West Bromwich to Wednesbury
65 Wolverhampton to Fordhouses
65 Darlaston to Woods Estate
66 West Bromwich to Stone Cross
68A/C Perry Barr to Aston (circular)
71 (Sunday daytime only) Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood
74 Walsall to Gillity Village
74A West Bromwich to Dudley
75 Birmingham International Station to Birmingham Business Park (peak times only)
78 Sutton Coldfield to Queslett Island
80 Bilston to Moxley
82 (evenings and Sundays) Wolverhampton to Dudley
89 Erdington to Kingstanding
108 (peak time only) Erdington to Sutton Coldfield then onto Birmingham
223 Dudley to Bilston
224 Sedgley to Bilston
226 Dudley to Intu Merry Hill
229 Dudley to Bilston
231 Blackheath to Halesowen
310 Willenhall to Wesnesbury
326 Bilston to Bloxwich
401E Walsall to Yew Tree (Circular)
530 (Evenings & Sundays) Wolverhampton to Rocket Pool.
There's also the 40 (Newton Rd-St Francis Assisi School) school run.
I'm not 100% it it's Tividale or Tamworth run... the 35A (Walsall to Greenleigh) possibly as well.
Thank you ever so much
Quote from: Nathan on February 08, 2020, 01:34:45 AM
I'm not 100% it it's Tividale or Tamworth run... the 35A (Walsall to Greenleigh) possibly as well.
Tamworth, but that still comes under Tividale, as it's just an outstation... well, more of a farm. ;D
Can anyone else fill in any of the below blanks in regards to the Streetlite transfers and repaints?:
30169?
30170 MX62GOA 31/32 branded
32238 SK17HHL 31/32 branded
32240 SL16YPJ 31/32 branded
32307 SK16GXH 40 branded
32309 SK16GXM 40 branded
32207
32208
32209
32210
Quote from: twb1979 on March 01, 2020, 05:15:46 AM
Can anyone else fill in any of the below blanks in regards to the Streetlite transfers and repaints?:
30169?
30170 MX62GOA 31/32 branded
32238 SK17HHL 31/32 branded
32240 SL16YPJ 31/32 branded
32307 SK16GXH 40 branded
32309 SK16GXM 40 branded
32207
32208
32209
32210
30169 will be WMB 31/32 branded
32307-10 will be WMB 40 branded
No such buses numbered 32207-10
Quote from: Winston on March 01, 2020, 01:21:56 PM
30169 will be WMB 31/32 branded
32307-10 will be WMB 40 branded
No such buses numbered 32207-10
32307 is already repainted and branded for the 40. Not sure on any others yet.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 01, 2020, 05:25:10 PM
32307 is already repainted and branded for the 40. Not sure on any others yet.
I know, so is 32309.
32310 was being re-panelled a couple of weeks ago, so may be painted by now as well.
Awesome cheers Winston. :)
So there's only going to be 4 branded Streetlites for the 31/32 service? I take it that only the 13 plate B7's are being returned off lease and the 62 plate ones are sticking around?
Quote from: twb1979 on March 02, 2020, 06:27:28 AM
Awesome cheers Winston. :)
So there's only going to be 4 branded Streetlites for the 31/32 service? I take it that only the 13 plate B7's are being returned off lease and the 62 plate ones are sticking around?
Yes - only the 13 plates are leased, 62 plates are owned.
Quote from: Winston on March 01, 2020, 01:21:56 PM
30169 will be WMB 31/32 branded
32307-10 will be WMB 40 branded
No such buses numbered 32207-10
I think I saw 32231 done today as well
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2020, 06:36:47 PM
I think I saw 32231 done today as well
That's a Redditch bus, not aware of any of those being spare from the 50. According to bustimes it's out on the 50 up until 18.26 tonight
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 06:45:50 PM
That's a Redditch bus, not aware of any of those being spare from the 50. According to bustimes it's out on the 50 up until 18.26 tonight
I could have sworn the fleet number ended '1' I was driving 4464 behind it. It appeared to only have half the rear brading fitted so far
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2020, 06:52:09 PM
I could have sworn the fleet number ended '1' I was driving 4464 behind it. It appeared to only have half the rear brading fitted so far
Depends where you saw it, could it have been 226 branded 20161, that's been on the 74 today
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 08:08:28 PM
Depends where you saw it, could it have been 226 branded 20161, that's been on the 74 today
No, it was on the 31
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2020, 08:09:26 PM
No, it was on the 31
Only 30170, 32238 & 32240 showing as on 31/32, rest are Volvo's
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 08:13:37 PM
Only 30170, 32238 & 32240 showing as on 31/32, rest are Volvo's
There's been multiple cases of Diamond applying incorrect fleet numbers to vehicles, although that's something I've only ever seen at Redditch depot!
Perhaps 32310 has been renumbered to 32301, and then perhaps it's not been allocated to Tividale on the ticket machines hence a different fleet number showing on the tracker? Far fetched it may seem, but equally likely lol
Quote from: MW on March 02, 2020, 11:03:10 PM
There's been multiple cases of Diamond applying incorrect fleet numbers to vehicles, although that's something I've only ever seen at Redditch depot!
Perhaps 32310 has been renumbered to 32301, and then perhaps it's not been allocated to Tividale on the ticket machines hence a different fleet number showing on the tracker? Far fetched it may seem, but equally likely lol
32310 was in Tividale depot engineering bays being re-panelled mid Feb, not sure if it's complete & painted yet.
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2020, 08:13:37 PM
Only 30170, 32238 & 32240 showing as on 31/32, rest are Volvo's
From my experience trackers aren't always accurate.
The other week YJ57BOF was on the 94, I checked the tracker on Bus Times and it wasn't showing on there, despite the fact i'd seen it go past me only a few minutes earlier.
Also noticed different vehicles on the 25 showing on the tracker to what was actually on there a few times in the past.
Quote from: 2206 on March 02, 2020, 11:38:22 PM
From my experience trackers aren't always accurate.
The other week YJ57BOF was on the 94, I checked the tracker on Bus Times and it wasn't showing on there, despite the fact i'd seen it go past me only a few minutes earlier.
Also noticed different vehicles on the 25 showing on the tracker to what was actually on there a few times in the past.
There's only the 4 x Streetlites I've already confirmed due to be 31/32 branded AFAIK, to release 4 x Volvo's 30938/30940-2 to return off lease.
Trackers are reasonably accurate, but can be taken as gospel.
A bit confused about diamonds statement on the 40 merger on their website, ticketing seems a bit unclear. So passengers can't use their value branded tickets on the nx 40, even though they are now a joint operation?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2020, 03:09:51 PM
A bit confused about diamonds statement on the 40 merger on their website, ticketing seems a bit unclear. So passengers can't use their value branded tickets on the nx 40, even though they are now a joint operation?
It's just Diamond Value (Month) & Diamond West Midlands tickets and passes that can't be purchased or used on NX 40. I'm sure the Diamond ticket restrictions on NX 40's will cause confusion....
Travelling on other Diamond services?
Diamond Value Day & Week tickets will be available to purchase and use on both Diamond and National Express 40 services.Please Note:
Diamond Value Month tickets are not available or valid on National Express 40 services.Diamond West Midlands tickets and passes are available and valid on all Diamond 40 services and other Diamond services,
however, they are not valid on National Express 40. Please check that Diamond services on this route meet your journey needs before purchasing a Diamond West Midlands ticket.
The brilliant diamond bus service has had a mellor replace 30813. And 21110 replace 30929. Seems the buses can't last a day on the 4H
Cheers
@Stu, can I just say thank you so much for the warm welcome back and it is really great to be back on the excellent forum although sadly earlier than expected owing to the suspension of the Mayors Election. I am sorry if you felt I was West Midlands Travel bashing this morning that was not my intention however I was only making an observation that as with West Midlands Travel Limited very poor operation of the X8 last week with numerous unsuitable B7's which I also actually use I am sure
@Tony will correct me if I am wrong if totally unsuitable B7s were not in fact used on the X8's last week & that West Midlands Travel Limited 4H this morning at 09.14 was running so late this morning in fact about ten minutes in thus underlining my comments expressed previously about such a poorly run company I am sorry you do not like the truth about the actual bus service being run by West Midlands Travel Limited this morning compered with the excellent service being run by Diamond Bus on time on its 4H. As ever I only comment on the services I actually use I hope you do not want me to censor my comments about the bus companies I actually use. It is really great to be back on the forum.
Please don't keep creating new threads, there's plenty of relevant Diamond Bus one's already, Winston.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2020, 06:15:57 PM
The brilliant diamond bus service has had a mellor replace 30813. And 21110 replace 30929. Seems the buses can't last a day on the 4H
30929 is a terrible bus anyway, 30821's rear display has been faulty or over a year now...
Quote from: Jack on March 14, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
30929 is a terrible bus anyway, 30821's rear display has been faulty or over a year now...
Mellors are always welcome on the 4H nothing like coming up Gorsty Hill with Depeche Mode blasting out I Just Cant Get Enough on its radio. I couldn't put it better myself tonight.
Quote from: Jack on March 14, 2020, 06:48:39 PM
30929 is a terrible bus anyway, 30821's rear display has been faulty or over a year now...
It is most unfortunate when an operator is unable to operate its published timetable I personally fail to see how a company can not plan for its staff shortages it just appears to be management incompetence its always especially regrettable when the company is part of a PLC for its customers and the company fails to operate best practice.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on March 14, 2020, 07:38:43 PM
It is most unfortunate when an operator is unable to operate its published timetable I personally fail to see how a company can not plan for its staff shortages it just appears to be management incompetence its always especially regrettable when the company is part of a PLC for its customers and the company fails to operate best practice.
Yes, I'm sure every PLC in Europe can muster up enough staff to cover those at home self-isolating
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2020, 07:50:21 PM
Yes, I'm sure every PLC in Europe can muster up enough staff to cover those at home self-isolating
Well if they were competent and have followed the correct forward planning yes my Acountancy Institute has been doing briefings for the last month of which I have attended companies have had enough time to prepare especially with the government advice that has been provided to them behind closed doors if they cannot cope now then the PLC is plainly incompetent simple most PLC's have been party to the Cobra briefings. In my long forgotten days at Midland Red West I was often asked at the last minute to cover duty workings if a bus company cannot cover its duty workings it's not fit for purpose whatever the circumstances.
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2020, 07:50:21 PM
Yes, I'm sure every PLC in Europe can muster up enough staff to cover those at home self-isolating
How come Pensnett can't even manage to cover all services on a Sat afternoon/evening due to staff shortages then?
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=79.9375
Quote from: richardjones210368 on March 14, 2020, 08:04:43 PM
Well if they were competent and have followed the correct forward planning yes my Acountancy Institute has been doing briefings for the last month of which I have attended companies have had enough time to prepare especially with the government advice that has been provided to them behind closed doors if they cannot cope now then the PLC is plainly incompetent simple most PLC's have been party to the Cobra briefings. In my long forgotten days at Midland Red West I was often asked at the last minute to cover duty workings if a bus company cannot cover its duty workings it's not fit for purpose whatever the circumstances.
I am getting seriously fed up with your stupid rants already. If they don't stop this spell on the forum will be short
Quote from: Winston on March 14, 2020, 08:18:22 PM
How come Pensnett can't even manage to cover all services on a Sat afternoon/evening due to staff shortages then?
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=79.9375
My apologies, Winston, but given what Tony was responding to, I think it was said in sarcasm.
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2020, 09:01:10 PM
I am getting seriously fed up with your stupid rants already. If they don't stop this spell on the forum will be short
Being in a privileged position to have seen the planning behind the sences that PLC's have been instructed to follow in the event of the contravirus moving to the next level of urgency I am not sure how explaining how PLC's were told to prepare for the serious consequences of what was happening and what will happen can be as you have described as a rant. If the company you work for hasnt followed the correct government advise in its preparations then its failings will be all to see this is the same company that failed to run its 09.14 4H on time this morning which I was waiting for unlike a rival company why would my return be short when I am only posting the truth or do we not need to know that as for duty workings I can only comment from the position of working at a company that was once a rival to yours in the West Midlands perhaps our standards were different to yours at the time I am very proud of my time at Midland Red West and its employees at the time under the leadership of the excellent Ken Mills perhaps the standards at your company today are somewhat different?
Quote from: ellspurs on March 14, 2020, 09:23:23 PM
My apologies, Winston, but given what Tony was responding to, I think it was said in sarcasm.
In Europe maybe, not in Pensnett. Poor show for a Sat afternoon/Evening with a reduced Pvr.
Covid 19 is a serious situation & one that will see staff shortages across all businesses (except airlines). It isnt down to one company managing things better than another. This is a time when ALL operators are pulling together. Richard you must know from your position what is going on obviously things which cannot be posted. Now is not the time to start playing blame games against ANY operator.
20744,30802,30887 - 4H
Dart paradise on the 4H today. 21108, 30886,30888,30961 - feel this may become the norm now the 40 doesn't use these anymore
New streetlites out
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 03, 2020, 10:16:18 AM
New streetlites out
They have been out most of this week
Does anyone know the reg's on the new StreetLite's (32311-8)
32311 BD20 ODM
32312 BD20 ODE
32313 BD20 ODC
32314 BD20 ODR
32315 BD20 ODS
32316 BD20 ODN
32317 BD20 ODO
32318 BD20 ODP
32312,313,314 are all on the 4H
Quote from: willr7 on April 03, 2020, 01:28:13 PM
Does anyone know the reg's on the new StreetLite's (32311-8)
What is the point of me typing everything up on the main site if it gets ignored
Quote from: Tony on April 03, 2020, 02:34:58 PM
What is the point of me typing everything up on the main site if it gets ignored
My Apologies, I hadn't thought to check your fleet list.
However, there are some errors as looking at a picture of 32318 it is registered as BD20 OCP, not 'ODP'
My apologies also Tony I only replied to Willr7 post as I had to see it myself on the fleet lists and thinking it was correct so I posted it again my apologies
Love the street lite, may have missed it are these for any specific route or just appear on any tividale route
Quote from: danny on April 03, 2020, 04:56:20 PM
Love the street lite, may have missed it are these for any specific route or just appear on any tividale route
Ultimately they're for B'ham City Centre routes i.e. 16/16w are still to be upgraded to Euro 6.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on March 14, 2020, 09:59:55 PM
Being in a privileged position to have seen the planning behind the sences that PLC's have been instructed to follow in the event of the contravirus moving to the next level of urgency I am not sure how explaining how PLC's were told to prepare for the serious consequences of what was happening and what will happen can be as you have described as a rant. If the company you work for hasnt followed the correct government advise in its preparations then its failings will be all to see this is the same company that failed to run its 09.14 4H on time this morning which I was waiting for unlike a rival company why would my return be short when I am only posting the truth or do we not need to know that as for duty workings I can only comment from the position of working at a company that was once a rival to yours in the West Midlands perhaps our standards were different to yours at the time I am very proud of my time at Midland Red West and its employees at the time under the leadership of the excellent Ken Mills perhaps the standards at your company today are somewhat different?
Richard - you must know from your involvement with the Mayor that public transport travel in the West Midlands is down by 87%. Do you actually expect commercial operators to operate a full service - there are no public transport operators in the country doing so. If they were, they'd be encouraging people to ignore the Government's instructions to the public.
I don't think we've heard any official comment from Rotala how they're dealing with it but as a smaller operator must be heavily affected.
I think you need to stop these daft rants - we are in a national crisis and it is no time to be moaning about anyone trying to provide a service in such difficult conditions. I sincerely hope you're following the coronavirus rules!!!
APOLOGIES - just realised Richard's was a post from earlier in March (before the general close down).
Former 30942 now for sale ex lease:
https://chartwellbussales.co.uk/buses_details.php?bus=177
Second picture you can see a diamond streetlite in wm bus livery
Quote from: Steveminor on April 21, 2020, 07:07:56 AM
Second picture you can see a diamond streetlite in wm bus livery
Presumably because the photograph is taken at Tividale depot..?
Quote from: MW on April 21, 2020, 07:13:38 AM
Presumably because the photograph is taken at Tividale depot..?
The pictures are taken in Tividale depot
Really like the new displays on the 32312-32314 streetlites. Very clear and nice to see destinations on the rear of vehicles too
20161 and all of the 4/H B7RLE's have had their route branding removed.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 18, 2020, 04:16:17 PM
20161 and all of the 4/H B7RLE's have had their route branding removed.
Hopefully when things go back to normal there not used on the 4H anymore
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 18, 2020, 04:16:17 PM
20161 and all of the 4/H B7RLE's have had their route branding removed.
Why has 20161 had its 226 route branding removed
Quote from: BH2004 on May 18, 2020, 05:02:44 PM
Why has 20161 had its 226 route branding removed
Reduction in PVR by 1, so it was surplus to requirements.
Just noticed on main page tividale now has no little darts. They shall always be remembered for their awful suspension, never the less nippy they certainly were and leave a sad hole in the diamond fleet
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 19, 2020, 10:22:42 PM
Just noticed on main page tividale now has no little darts. They shall always be remembered for their awful suspension, never the less nippy they certainly were and leave a sad hole in the diamond fleet
There are still some MPDs in operation there
Quote from: metrocity on May 19, 2020, 10:39:13 PM
There are still some MPDs in operation there
At tividale? Central buses ones? I forgot about those initially
Seen 20912 and another e200, looks like some route learning/driver training going on
I think with service changes and loss of contracts it cud be the end for Diamond Darts with only 12 left in total
Does any one know what's happened to 32315?
Quote from: cris 99 on May 20, 2020, 02:00:41 PM
I think with service changes and loss of contracts it cud be the end for Diamond Darts with only 12 left in total
There were two out yesterday, ex-Central ones. Neither were in service though, but one was seen in West Bromwich and another in Walsall. 30897 is also in use still at Kiddy.
Sure they'll be back soon enough they've bought 30885 back One of the 2nd oldest buses they have
Quote from: Jakemat10 on July 08, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Sure they'll be back soon enough they've bought 30885 back One of the 2nd oldest buses they have
30885 has never been withdrawn, it's still showing as allocated to Tividale.
I know it's not people was thinking the central bus darts and old Optares had all been withdrawn they clearly haven't because they're still be used and I meant it's been bought back on road because it hasn't been in service since March
Could 30946-947 be coming to tividale as 30822-23 have gone up kiddi 30944 was recently transferred to tividales scrap yard just wondering if this could be for parts for 30946-7 if they come to tividale
@Tony I've just seen 30806 on the 4H in the new livery, so I can assure you it's not withdrawn
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2020, 12:39:59 PM
@Tony I've just seen 30806 on the 4H in the new livery, so I can assure you it's not withdrawn
Well I am sure it will change on the next fleet list Simon sends me0
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2020, 12:39:59 PM
@Tony I've just seen 30806 on the 4H in the new livery, so I can assure you it's not withdrawn
It's been in new livery since Feb.
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
It's been in new livery since Feb.
Still listed as VoR on the latest fleetlist
Quote from: Tony on July 25, 2020, 03:43:24 PM
Still listed as VoR on the latest fleetlist
Probably a very recent re-entry in to service, it has been in new livery since at least 11th Feb when it was present parked up VOR @ Tividale on my depot visit.
30812 (BX58 AOZ) Volvo/Plaxton Centro is also in the NEW LIVERY (ex Wessex) and operating in Redditch today.
Quote from: DMCL on July 25, 2020, 10:53:28 PM
30812 (BX58 AOZ) Volvo/Plaxton Centro is also in the NEW LIVERY (ex Wessex) and operating in Redditch today.
30812 is allocated to Redditch
Good to see 30887 and 30888 back in service
30888 was due for withdrawal in April obviously changed there minds
I saw 20741 with 64 on the destination coming along the Warstones Road from Wakley Hill/ Penn Road about 5 - 10 minutes ago anyone know why?
It went Wakley Hill, Penn Road, Warstones Road, Oxbarn Avenue, Merridale Road, Aspen Way and then Wolverhampton Bus Station
Under what normal circumstances would Diamond have '31 Leamore via Bloxwich ' on the display, as I just saw one in Bloxwich?
I assume it was driver error on this occasion?
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2020, 07:12:10 AM
Under what normal circumstances would Diamond have '31 Leamore via Bloxwich ' on the display, as I just saw one in Bloxwich?
I assume it was driver error on this occasion?
If a bus needs to turn short at Leamore?
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2020, 09:00:22 AM
If a bus needs to turn short at Leamore?
Where would he 'turn short' at Leamore anyway?
Years ago, it would've been Green Lane, but the only place I could think of would involve Harden Road & Broadstone Avenue.
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2020, 12:36:15 PM
Where would he 'turn short' at Leamore anyway?
Years ago, it would've been Green Lane, but the only place I could think of would involve Harden Road & Broadstone Avenue.
To the lights, right, right Somerfield Road, to Bloxwich
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2020, 07:12:10 AM
Under what normal circumstances would Diamond have '31 Leamore via Bloxwich ' on the display, as I just saw one in Bloxwich?
I assume it was driver error on this occasion?
The 31 has blinds for Mossley, Walsall, Bloxwich and the NX Garage, there isn't a Leamore one. Any idea what vehicle it is, as it may have an outdated set on there?
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 22, 2020, 03:27:18 PM
The 31 has blinds for Mossley, Walsall, Bloxwich and the NX Garage, there isn't a Leamore one. Any idea what vehicle it is, as it may have an outdated set on there?
Why would diamond have blinds to turn short at WA garage
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 22, 2020, 03:27:18 PM
The 31 has blinds for Mossley, Walsall, Bloxwich and the NX Garage, there isn't a Leamore one. Any idea what vehicle it is, as it may have an outdated set on there?
It was a B7LRE or the similar model that Diamond uses.
Didn't get the number.
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2020, 02:10:23 PM
To the lights, right, right Somerfield Road, to Bloxwich
Oh, I'd assume they were starting back from Leamore as well in service?
Quote from: Lukeee on October 22, 2020, 04:35:29 PM
Why would diamond have blinds to turn short at WA garage
If for some reason the bus was running late it may need to be adjusted, most likely to be achieved by running short. Running short can get bus back on time to ensure it gets back to Walsall for scheduled relief time
In other news, some more Hotel Hoppa spec 70 plate Streetlites are set to enter service at Tividale in the near future, I'm told they're likely to end up on the 63/64/65 in Wolverhampton. If I find out the registrations/fleet numbers, I'll post them here.
20183 (BX70 GHF) is the first Hotel Hoppa spec Streetlite on the road at Tividale, it's on the 74 in Walsall today for anyone that wants to get it.
Update: 20184 is on the 23, which goes onto the 310 later.
Some great investment in tividale at the moment!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 26, 2020, 07:58:59 AM
Some great investment in tividale at the moment!
Its not really, these are Hallmarks that are not required at the moment.
Quote from: BN on October 26, 2020, 09:21:01 AM
Its not really, these are Hallmarks that are not required at the moment.
It's still new buses that are being used, along with the other brand new ones that have been delivered.
it looks like 20181 BX70GHD is now on the 224
I went on 32313 yesterday and I must say I'm very impressed with the quality of interior in this.
2 of the 20 plate streetlite are now branded for the 16 service , West Brom to Birmingham looks very good
If anyone isn't on Facebook, here's a few of the photos of them, courtesy of Kieran at Diamond. The branding definitely looks great now that it's on the actual buses imho.
https://imgur.com/a/HFUfYkm
I think the 226 should be rebranded to be like this
Diamond Optare Solo unusually parked in Tesco, Ward End car park with "L Driver Training" on the display at 14:00.
Not seen a bus parked there before. Looks like the one I saw on the 25 earlier, so the driver might have parked it there while he went in the shop.
Was 20053 according to Bus Times.
Quick question, is diamonds 4H route the same as NX around Hayley green area? Cause on google maps, i've seen 2 ways, one the normal nx way left on rosemary road, and another straight to halesowen on hagley road. Thanks
Quote from: asv321 on November 30, 2020, 09:48:26 PM
Quick question, is diamonds 4H route the same as NX around Hayley green area? Cause on google maps, i've seen 2 ways, one the normal nx way left on rosemary road, and another straight to halesowen on hagley road. Thanks
No, Diamond carry straight on down Hagley Road
30970 in the new livery
3 diamond 4Hs stuck on gorsty hill by looks of it on tracker.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 22, 2021, 07:53:27 PM
3 diamond 4Hs stuck on gorsty hill by looks of it on tracker.
Yes, probably, buses getting stuck behind stranded cars in the Halesowen, and in Bartley Green the buses themselves have got stuck
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2021, 07:55:38 PM
Yes, probably, buses getting stuck behind stranded cars in the Halesowen, and in Bartley Green the buses themselves have got stuck
Yes it's very bad in my area. What happens to the drivers of those buses if they can't get anywhere? Surely driving hours exceeded?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 22, 2021, 08:27:29 PM
Yes it's very bad in my area. What happens to the drivers of those buses if they can't get anywhere? Surely driving hours exceeded?
They are not driving! Time stationary in a bus counts as working time with DVSA, but driving time is only when the wheels are turning.
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
They are not driving! Time stationary in a bus counts as working time with DVSA, but driving time is only when the wheels are turning.
Ah got you. Still if I was a driver stuck I would be pretty pissed off.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 22, 2021, 08:38:00 PM
Ah got you. Still if I was a driver stuck I would be pretty pissed off.
Yes, It can do that. Pensnett's engineers are out trying to free their buses with salt & shovels so I would hope Tividale is doing something similar
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2021, 08:40:37 PM
Yes, It can do that. Pensnett's engineers are out trying to free their buses with salt & shovels so I would hope Tividale is doing something similar
Ah ok that's good. You got many PN buses stuck?
4H has a lot of solos on it today. I suppose when they are running around empty it don't matter what they put on it really. 20050,20840,20888, and 20912 on it so it seems
Just been sent a photo of ex Central Buses Dennis Dart 30961 in the new Brighter Diamond livery. Looks like it's literally only just arrived back from Wilcox. Also E200 30964 is now in the new livery too.
Where did u see the pic
Quote from: Jakemat10 on February 16, 2021, 10:25:34 PM
Where did u see the pic
pic on facebook of enviro in new livery
I saw a Diamond bus on a training duty today, at the top of the Collector Road (Smith's Wood/Bacons End side). No special livery, just the matrix declaring that it was a training vehicle.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 17, 2021, 04:17:43 PM
I saw a Diamond bus on a training duty today, at the top of the Collector Road (Smith's Wood/Bacons End side). No special livery, just the matrix declaring that it was a training vehicle.
Some of them run in service on the 25 displaying that. So might not necessarily have been a training vehicle.
Dead route from 75 to 25.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16704?date=2021-02-17#journeys/107270461
Quote from: 2206 on February 17, 2021, 04:19:25 PM
Some of them run in service on the 25 displaying that. So might not necessarily have been a training vehicle.
Dead route from 75 to 25.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16704?date=2021-02-17#journeys/107270461
It would've been this one that I saw:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16704?date=2021-02-17#journeys/107387746
From the starting location, it had stopped in the last lay-by on the Collector Road.
Quote from: 2206 on February 17, 2021, 04:19:25 PM
Some of them run in service on the 25 displaying that. So might not necessarily have been a training vehicle.
Dead route from 75 to 25.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/16704?date=2021-02-17#journeys/107270461
I think the regular driver who does the 25 uses that blind when he's running out of service. I've seen him use it a few times when running empty back to Tividale.
I think you will find the 31/32 branded vehicles only appear on the 002 peak boards, where they are running together with a streetlite.
@Trident 4194 I have seen a 31/32 branded on 226 sometimes so they do venture off route
That will be for the dupe trip when school kids come out
21106 and 30966 are now both branded for the 35/A. I believe 30964 will also be receiving branding too.
Whilst on 30925 yesterday on 42 I noticed it's now got a TV. , is this a new thing ? Don't normally travel on them I've attached a photo , just wondering if anyone have got them and will the 42/3 gain next stop announcements.
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 02, 2021, 11:58:39 PM
Whilst on 30925 yesterday on 42 I noticed it's now got a TV. , is this a new thing ? Don't normally travel on them I've attached a photo , just wondering if anyone have got them and will the 42/3 gain next stop announcements.
There's no photo attached, but it is a new addition. The buses for the partnership routes are getting them added with next stop announcements, and I think the 16/226 might be too.
Cheers for the info , sorry about it wasn't letting me add the photo ( too big ) but it did say 42 Dudley on it as I got on , wonder if nx will be adding the same to there buses maybe ?
Always seems a lot of standard diamond vehicles on the joint routes such as 40,42,43 instead of using the vehicles in red
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 07, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
Always seems a lot of standard diamond vehicles on the joint routes such as 40,42,43 instead of using the vehicles in red
off for maintenance or give the bus a rest instead of been out mon-sat or sunday as they run a handfull on sunday some times they put branded buses on other services like 229
Noticed that the 002 has been missing quite a few streetlites for a couple of weeks now, did they get moved or?
Quote from: mesub on July 01, 2021, 09:14:41 PM
Noticed that the 002 has been missing quite a few streetlites for a couple of weeks now, did they get moved or?
None have been moved, they're just used on other routes in addition to the 002. The clean air zone means that the odd 16 working that would be a B7RLE or similar previously, now has to be a Euro 6 vehicle, so you end up with the slightly older StreetLites off the 002 or 226 working it. There are other routes too that are Euro 6 tenders, such as the 22/23 in Wednesbury, which both get them on a regular basis alongside the Mellors.
Quote from: DJ on July 02, 2021, 04:41:12 AM
None have been moved, they're just used on other routes in addition to the 002. The clean air zone means that the odd 16 working that would be a B7RLE or similar previously, now has to be a Euro 6 vehicle, so you end up with the slightly older StreetLites off the 002 or 226 working it. There are other routes too that are Euro 6 tenders, such as the 22/23 in Wednesbury, which both get them on a regular basis alongside the Mellors.
Alright, thank you
Stopped of at Tividale Depot on Sunday 8th August 2021 (On my way to see Liverpool in a friendly) and noted the following, all from a public place.
Optare Solo's
20010
20050 (Thought this went to Peter Reddish for Scrap)
20051
20053
20058
20732
20735
20736
20737
20739
20740
20818
20879
20886
20887
20888
20912
30102
30638
Dart's
20023
20610
21110
30879
30886
30887
30888
30960
30961
Streetlites
20164
20167
32230
32232
32233
32234
32235
32236
32237
32310
32315
32316
32317
32323
32325
Mercedes-Benz Sprinters
21206
21210
21211
21214
21218
21220
21226
21228
21232
21234
Volvo B7RLE/Wright
30407
30410
30411
30412
30525
30526
30527
30834
Volvo B7RLE/Plaxton
30816
Optare Versa's
30969
Also noted one burnt out single decker at the back of the yard opposite the depot. Anyone know which on this is?
Apologies for the late posting, though last Wednesday, I passed to wreckers towing a Mercedes Citaro each - first was 30030 and another UID Citaro.
Are these back at TV or heading/arrived elsewhere?
Burnt out dart is 30500 MW52 PZR
B14 WTS (30120) is back at Tividale after repaint and it's electric conversion. SK16 GXH (32307) is also back at Tividale, and is the first WMB vehicle to be repainted into the regular Diamond livery. Both are currently in the base livery without vinyls.
Quote from: Wumpty on August 11, 2021, 12:48:08 PM
Apologies for the late posting, though last Wednesday, I passed to wreckers towing a Mercedes Citaro each - first was 30030 and another UID Citaro.
Are these back at TV or heading/arrived elsewhere?
Was the other still in signature livery? If so it will be 30019. Both these have been up and Bolton and not turned a wheel in ages. 30030 was painted into Preston livery for some reason but was only on the road for a few months. 30019 never entered service so presume both now sold on.
Quote from: WWH44L on August 18, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
Was the other still in signature livery? If so it will be 30019. Both these have been up and Bolton and not turned a wheel in ages. 30030 was painted into Preston livery for some reason but was only on the road for a few months. 30019 never entered service so presume both now sold on.
They weren't in a specific livery - both looked like they'd had work done to various panels. Pity, as I really rate Mercedes chassis.
Quote from: WWH44L on August 18, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
Was the other still in signature livery? If so it will be 30019. Both these have been up and Bolton and not turned a wheel in ages. 30030 was painted into Preston livery for some reason but was only on the road for a few months. 30019 never entered service so presume both now sold on.
The original Signature fleet was in very bad condition upon the loss of the contracts in Solihull. The "best" vehicle was 32307. Everything else was plagued with issues. Not surprised the Mercs have been sold / withdrawn as with the Versas (30404 / 30405). 30019 was VOR for ages. 30030 rarely made it into service. In every occasion it lasted a matter of weeks before going off the road again.
20016 was the best Solo of a bad bunch. Looks like that one ended up north. The remainder were terrible. 20014/20027 being the worst. Presumably they're now operating locally in Redditch, and not venturing out of the town!
32308/9/10 were constantly having electrical issues. Not sure what they're like at Tividale. Perhaps they've been repaired now. 32307 was the most reliable vehicle in that fleet.
Quote from: MW on August 18, 2021, 03:13:30 PM
The original Signature fleet was in very bad condition upon the loss of the contracts in Solihull. The "best" vehicle was 32307. Everything else was plagued with issues. Not surprised the Mercs have been sold / withdrawn as with the Versas (30404 / 30405). 30019 was VOR for ages. 30030 rarely made it into service. In every occasion it lasted a matter of weeks before going off the road again.
20016 was the best Solo of a bad bunch. Looks like that one ended up north. The remainder were terrible. 20014/20027 being the worst. Presumably they're now operating locally in Redditch, and not venturing out of the town!
32308/9/10 were constantly having electrical issues. Not sure what they're like at Tividale. Perhaps they've been repaired now. 32307 was the most reliable vehicle in that fleet.
Thanks for the update, at least Versa 30404 is still in service at Bolton, been tracking as 32211 for months.
Quote from: MW on August 18, 2021, 03:13:30 PM
The original Signature fleet was in very bad condition upon the loss of the contracts in Solihull. The "best" vehicle was 32307. Everything else was plagued with issues. Not surprised the Mercs have been sold / withdrawn as with the Versas (30404 / 30405). 30019 was VOR for ages. 30030 rarely made it into service. In every occasion it lasted a matter of weeks before going off the road again.
20016 was the best Solo of a bad bunch. Looks like that one ended up north. The remainder were terrible. 20014/20027 being the worst. Presumably they're now operating locally in Redditch, and not venturing out of the town!
32308/9/10 were constantly having electrical issues. Not sure what they're like at Tividale. Perhaps they've been repaired now. 32307 was the most reliable vehicle in that fleet.
The 40 seems to be run by B7RLES most the time indicating those streetlites may be as bad at Tividale. 30030 must be worth some money though?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 18, 2021, 05:07:16 PM
The 40 seems to be run by B7RLES most the time indicating those streetlites may be as bad at Tividale. 30030 must be worth some money though?
The Streetlites are on the 40 all the time, except for 32307 which has been away for a repaint. Even so, NX always have had non-branded stuff on there too, including two Scanias today.
Quote from: MW on August 18, 2021, 03:13:30 PM
The original Signature fleet was in very bad condition upon the loss of the contracts in Solihull. The "best" vehicle was 32307. Everything else was plagued with issues. Not surprised the Mercs have been sold / withdrawn as with the Versas (30404 / 30405). 30019 was VOR for ages. 30030 rarely made it into service. In every occasion it lasted a matter of weeks before going off the road again.
20016 was the best Solo of a bad bunch. Looks like that one ended up north. The remainder were terrible. 20014/20027 being the worst. Presumably they're now operating locally in Redditch, and not venturing out of the town!
32308/9/10 were constantly having electrical issues. Not sure what they're like at Tividale. Perhaps they've been repaired now. 32307 was the most reliable vehicle in that fleet.
I went on 32309 today on the 40. The vibrations from this thing when idle was appalling. Give me a royale Any day over that heap of junk
The 13 no longer seems to be mellor operated.
There's a display for '31E Bloxwich - Part Journey ', but is there officially one saying '31E Walsall - Part Journey ', as I've haven't seen one.
(The one I caught at Bloxwich, to save me a walk, showed the normal 31 to Walsall via Bloxwich display, even though it started from there!)
Quote from: Westy on September 23, 2021, 05:38:48 PM
There's a display for '31E Bloxwich - Part Journey ', but is there officially one saying '31E Walsall - Part Journey ', as I've haven't seen one.
(The one I caught at Bloxwich, to save me a walk, showed the normal 31 to Walsall via Bloxwich display, even though it started from there!)
Why would you have one saying Walsall - Part Journey?
Quote from: Westy on September 23, 2021, 05:38:48 PM
There's a display for '31E Bloxwich - Part Journey ', but is there officially one saying '31E Walsall - Part Journey ', as I've haven't seen one.
(The one I caught at Bloxwich, to save me a walk, showed the normal 31 to Walsall via Bloxwich display, even though it started from there!)
No, there's only a regular '31 Walsall' display. It wouldn't make any difference, there's no difference between getting on a short that starts at Bloxwich, and getting on one that's started at Mossley. They're both doing the exact same route from that point onwards.
One of the electric Centro's has made it's debut in service today in the form of 30922 on the 16. It did the 15:55 off West Bromwich to Birmingham if anyone wants a photo.
@Simon Dunn just a heads up the front destination blinds on 20050 aren't working
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 01, 2021, 10:51:04 PM
@Simon Dunn just a heads up the front destination blinds on 20050 aren't working
Thank you - I will report it now
I somehow doubt its acceptable for drivers on the 4H to display short workings park up pretend you've broken down (lift the rear up) for 15 minutes whilst you have a fag and walk around? The bus in question is still in operation, and as I don't want to get the driver in trouble I would like to politely ask
@Simon Dunn to make sure the buses are running the full route, as I doubt you enjoy paying drivers to not do their job.
We will look through the tracking now.
Quote from: Simon Dunn on October 02, 2021, 05:59:12 AM
Thank you - I will report it now
If this one is service 125 branded (patchily) then it still isn't working today.
If not, one of the 125 branded vehicles doesn't have their display working. Couldn't see which one as it was infront of me in that mess of congestion in Kidderminster thanks to the burst water main.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 06, 2021, 05:02:05 PM
If this one is service 125 branded (patchily) then it still isn't working today.
If not, one of the 125 branded vehicles doesn't have their display working. Couldn't see which one as it was infront of me in that mess of congestion in Kidderminster thanks to the burst water main.
No I reported a tividale solo. You must be referring to one of the 3 streetlites. Also today 30001 is on the 202 with a piece of paper as the display
30805 is out for the first time today since conversion to electric on the 40.
Is it true 30804 has took the VRM that was previously on 14015 (WET859) or is it a dodgy edit to bustimes?
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 13, 2021, 01:21:23 AM
Is it true 30804 has took the VRM that was previously on 14015 (WET859) or is it a dodgy edit to bustimes?
That's correct. (Not my photo)
(https://i.imgur.com/SVY7JGm.png)
Bolton's Volvo B7RLE 30850 was parked up in Tividale depot earlier, assume a recent transfer.
Also, work going on over the road on John's Lane, site looks to have been largely cleared of scrappers.
Quote from: winston on November 22, 2021, 11:31:24 PM
Bolton's Volvo B7RLE 30850 was parked up in Tividale depot earlier, assume a recent transfer.
Also, work going on over the road on John's Lane, site looks to have been largely cleared of scrappers.
The 'scrap' vehicles were all cleared out a while ago, it's being used for regular fleet parking whilst resurfacing work is ongoing at the main yard. It has been secured with new fencing and other measures, just in case the scrotes return with their lighters for round 3!
Quote from: DJ on November 24, 2021, 07:24:21 PM
The 'scrap' vehicles were all cleared out a while ago, it's being used for regular fleet parking whilst resurfacing work is ongoing at the main yard. It has been secured with new fencing and other measures, just in case the scrotes return with their lighters for round 3!
It would actually be round 4!
The work on the yard hasn't quite finished. A controlled barrier will be fitted during the first week of December and shortly we will revert to car parking on John Street a all the bus parking back on Hallbridge Way
Anything is possible. However, we have tried to put measures in place to stop vandalism.
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 24, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
It would actually be round 4!
The work on the yard hasn't quite finished. A controlled barrier will be fitted during the first week of December and shortly we will revert to car parking on John Street a all the bus parking back on Hallbridge Way
Anything is possible. However, we have tried to put measures in place to stop vandalism.
Ah, forgive me for losing count! The John Street yard definitely feels more secure now though, I won't go into the measures for obvious reasons though as this is a public forum.
Is the plan for a pedestrian crossing on the main road still going ahead? I recall there being work at the main Hallbridge Way yard to add in some stairs and a new gate, replacing the side entrance by the wash.
Quote from: DJ on November 25, 2021, 11:45:07 AM
Ah, forgive me for losing count! The John Street yard definitely feels more secure now though, I won't go into the measures for obvious reasons though as this is a public forum.
Is the plan for a pedestrian crossing on the main road still going ahead? I recall there being work at the main Hallbridge Way yard to add in some stairs and a new gate, replacing the side entrance by the wash.
We have never planned to introduce a crossing. We are planning to introduced gates both sides of the road
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 25, 2021, 12:54:06 PM
We have never planned to introduce a crossing. We are planning to introduced gates both sides of the road
Simon
Ah right, serves me right for listening to drivers then! Still, that'll make the walk between the two yards a bit easier.
One of the 16 branded on 50 tonight
Quote from: DJ on November 25, 2021, 07:04:08 PM
Ah right, serves me right for listening to drivers then! Still, that'll make the walk between the two yards a bit easier.
A lot of drivers use the side gate in Britannia Street just before the canal bridge, that's the way my husband usually walks from the car park on the days he takes my car. He'll be pleased if gates are going to be installed at the car park and traffic office though, bit shorter walk.
I used to like watching the buses return to the car park on John Street, while waiting to pick my husband up from his shift. Especially the one who at the start of November displayed Merry Christmas on his destination board!
Quote from: PinkBus on December 02, 2021, 06:33:45 AM
A lot of drivers use the side gate in Britannia Street just before the canal bridge, that's the way my husband usually walks from the car park on the days he takes my car. He'll be pleased if gates are going to be installed at the car park and traffic office though, bit shorter walk.
I used to like watching the buses return to the car park on John Street, while waiting to pick my husband up from his shift. Especially the one who at the start of November displayed Merry Christmas on his destination board!
The gates are already installed, so you should be able to see them.
The Barrier on the entrance is due to be installed around 9th December. After which all three exits need access control. It feels like it should be completed this side of Christmas
Simon
Quote from: PinkBus on December 02, 2021, 06:33:45 AM
A lot of drivers use the side gate in Britannia Street just before the canal bridge, that's the way my husband usually walks from the car park on the days he takes my car. He'll be pleased if gates are going to be installed at the car park and traffic office though, bit shorter walk.
I used to like watching the buses return to the car park on John Street, while waiting to pick my husband up from his shift. Especially the one who at the start of November displayed Merry Christmas on his destination board!
November's a bit late, 30963 was sat at Showbus back in September with it on the blinds!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/145803459@N06/51551409199/
Quote from: Simon Dunn on December 02, 2021, 12:15:31 PM
The gates are already installed, so you should be able to see them.
The Barrier on the entrance is due to be installed around 9th December. After which all three exits need access control. It feels like it should be completed this side of Christmas
Simon
Ah, that's why he had his photo taken for a i.d. badge last week then, I did wonder when he mentioned it. I'll have a look later on when I go and pick him up.
An6 one what wrong 20989 as not Ben out for weeks thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on December 13, 2021, 01:36:32 PM
An6 one what wrong 20989 as not Ben out for weeks thanks
Any chance you could repeat that in English? ::)
Quote from: Solo1 on December 13, 2021, 01:36:32 PM
An6 one what wrong 20989 as not Ben out for weeks thanks
I would hazard a guess if hes asking there whereabout of 20989 as its not been out for ages
Quote from: Solo1 on December 13, 2021, 01:36:32 PMreposted corrected
Any one what wrong 20989 as not been out for weeks thanks
There were two allover white DF Streetlites parked in Tividale depot earlier, not sure Hotel Hoppa's now devoid of Diamond logos or new additions to the fleet
Quote from: winston on December 16, 2021, 11:55:37 PM
There were two allover white DF Streetlites parked in Tividale depot earlier, not sure Hotel Hoppa's now devoid of Diamond logos or new additions to the fleet
2 LWB all over white streetlites together come through halesowen last night, heading up to manor way.
Quote from: BN on December 17, 2021, 11:23:48 AM
2 LWB all over white streetlites together come through halesowen last night, heading up to manor way.
I think those two you are referring to, are the two LWB that are parked in a HGV yard in Graingers Lane, Cradley Heath (I forget the operator, but I think they do Rail Replacement Work ?)
The two Rotala have have since been confirmed as Wrightbus Demo's covering some Warranty Work
30413 has been out in service for the first time in many months today! It covered the 889 school from Bishop Walsh to Kingstanding as the kids finished early today. Also worth noting it has been repainted into the Brighter Diamond livery now too.
What will be used on the 96 from Jan - obviously PB used omnilinks which did get quite busy at times so a solo wouldn't do it.
Quote from: Jack D on December 18, 2021, 10:17:12 PM
What will be used on the 96 from Jan - obviously PB used omnilinks which did get quite busy at times so a solo wouldn't do it.
If it was that busy it wouldn't have been withdrawn for not carrying enough passengers
Quote from: Jack D on December 18, 2021, 10:17:12 PM
What will be used on the 96 from Jan - obviously PB used omnilinks which did get quite busy at times so a solo wouldn't do it.
Will probably see anything from Tividale, even though full size singles can be tight in a few places along the route.
Quote from: Jack on December 18, 2021, 11:40:55 PM
Will probably see anything from Tividale, even though full size singles can be tight in a few places along the route.
20732 was route learning on it this morning I believe
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2021, 10:23:48 PM
If it was that busy it wouldn't have been withdrawn for not carrying enough passengers
Looks like diamond using B7RLES on there. Also didn't realise how early this route started. 4;48 from erdington is surely diamonds earliest vehicle leaving tividale
Versa on there today as well
Quote from: Steveminor on January 07, 2022, 10:44:41 PM
Versa on there today as well
Streetlites have been used too. Apparently it's a Euro 5 contract but the Versa's and B7's are Euro 4...
Quote from: Jack on January 08, 2022, 02:00:00 AM
Streetlites have been used too. Apparently it's a Euro 5 contract but the Versa's and B7's are Euro 4...
It's Euro 4. Certain journeys need full size vehicles (schools etc)
Quote from: metrocity on January 08, 2022, 07:40:47 AM
It's Euro 4. Certain journeys need full size vehicles (schools etc)
Makes sense, and agreed some journeys on the 96 really wouldn't cope without a full size Single!
all 96s are now streetlights.
Quote from: cris 99 on January 20, 2022, 12:46:52 PM
all 96s are now streetlights.
*Streetlites
I thought anything Euro 4 and above could be used though, don't understand where more Streetlites have come from for it as it usually see's normally 1 on it?
Since capacity isn't an issue it makes sense to use streelites, newer & more fuel efficient
The streetlights have been taken off the 002 and replaced by volvos plus the 2 loans have been on recently
How many of the Centros are electric now? Do I assume it's the ones marked as the blue/green livery on BusTimes?
Quote from: Kevin on January 28, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
How many of the Centros are electric now? Do I assume it's the ones marked as the blue/green livery on BusTimes?
5 are done at the moment
30120/30302/30802/30804/30805/30922 are all electric
The 002 has been stripped of its streetlites it seems.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 23, 2022, 02:37:34 PM
The 002 has been stripped of its streetlites it seems.
Believe most of the streetlites from the 002 are now on the 96
Quote from: Lukeee on February 23, 2022, 08:27:28 PM
Believe most of the streetlites from the 002 are now on the 96
The 96 does still see a few other B7RLE's and the E300's make appearances as well.
Quote from: Lukeee on February 23, 2022, 08:27:28 PM
Believe most of the streetlites from the 002 are now on the 96
Why?
Quote from: mesub on February 23, 2022, 10:31:45 PM
Why?
Most fuel efficient vehicles and they in service the longest so makes sense I guess
Possibly because most routes are tendered or travel through the Birmingham or Wolverhampton CZA and will have a specific vehicle type requirements. 002 is commercial and doesn't travel through a CAZ, same with 4 / 4H
Back to full streetlite operation on the 002 today. Very strange
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 25, 2022, 08:16:19 AM
Back to full streetlite operation on the 002 today. Very strange
30832 was on there today so not exactly completely Streetlite...
30827 broke down on the 96 today.
Solo broke down the one with blue diamond logo seen yesterday on the back ot their towtruck
On what I assume is 30833, as someone has written in felt tip pen in the drivers cab, '30833 FAST BUS !!! '
Really?
Quote from: Westy on March 04, 2022, 04:01:00 PM
On what I assume is 30833, as someone has written in felt tip pen in the drivers cab, '30833 FAST BUS !!! '
Really?
That's been written on there for over a year I reckon. It is true that it's a fast bus
Solo 20058 on the 96 was heading into Chelmsley this morning after completing its journey.
20839 on the 25 carrying old blue diamond fleetname.
76/76A Tamwoth to Sutton Coldfield.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/bus-services/76-tamworth/
https://www.diamondbuses.com/media/4056/76_240422.pdf
From the timetable this will replace the 75/75A in the Warwickshire area.
Quote from: 2206 on March 26, 2022, 11:55:18 AM
76/76A Tamwoth to Sutton Coldfield.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/bus-services/76-tamworth/
No further information available yet. I wonder if this will replace the 75/75A in some way though in the Warwickshire area?
Replaces the 6 and 6A services:
https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/service-updates/
Though I would guess it will partially replace the 75 which looks likely to be withdrawn or curtailed.
Quote from: Stu on March 26, 2022, 12:33:29 PM
Replaces the 6 and 6A services:
https://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/service-updates/
Though I would guess it will partially replace the 75 which looks likely to be withdrawn or curtailed.
I have since opened the pdf timetable and can see that they go via Walmley replacing the 75. With one peak time journey via Middleton replacing the 75A.
It may have perhaps been determined that people on this route in Warwickshire want to go to Sutton rather than the Airport/NEC I guess. Plus the X12 does still link the Business Park and Airport.
The new 94 timetable also shows it will have a 20 minute frequency and a few later workings as far as Clock Garage compared to the current claribel timetable, with the last one at 18.30 on a weekday. Saturday also increased to every 20 mins.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/media/4057/94_240422.pdf
Diamond website says value £2.85/£3.00 ticket valid between Chelmsley Wood Interchange and Ward End Fox & Gose only. Matches the same boundary as the NX local ticket on that route I think. And for 1 month introductory period there will be a flat £1 fare per journey on the 94 service.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/claribels-welcome/
Birmingham - Kings Heath 34, Wolverhampton 63/64/65, 17 and 17A are withdrawn due to end of contract.
Caught 16 Branded 32318 on the 94 to Ward End this afternoon. First time a 16 branded one has been on there I think.
Diamond Mellor Minibus out on the 94. 21234 I think.
Was a change bus for YJ60GHF/32127. They took the ticket machine out of 32127 to, hence still tracking as that.
Some of the 226 branded streetlites have been rebranded again but in the style like the 16s have
My other sister from West Bromwich has just saw a Diamond bus showing 96 down her road.
Only issue is her street, near to the town centre, has been blocked off at one end for well over 10 years!
Sounds like he went the wrong way!
21220 on the 96 today.
Looks like 32234 was pulled off the 22 in Tipton and ran dead from Tipton to Ward End (Fox & Goose) arriving about 13:00.
Swap for 30170 according to Bus Times which is non CAZ compliant.
I saw it on Bromford Lane, and its strange seeing a Diamond Streetlite there.
I think it was said somewhere
@Jack streetlites are going to be used on Solihull/Stratford work. If so I would guess might see ex Claribles pulsars used on the 50 as must be lots surplus and I think the Claribels fleet was all CAZ compliant except BOF?
32136 has come all the way up to the Druids Heath terminus, and instead of using the turning circle had to turn into a side street to turn back round. Any idea why as they Diamond 50 only runs to Maypole?
Quote from: Jack on July 04, 2022, 03:41:04 PM32136 has come all the way up to the Druids Heath terminus, and instead of using the turning circle had to turn into a side street to turn back round. Any idea why as they Diamond 50 only runs to Maypole?
Possibly because there its only a tiny termus and nx run it
QuotePossibly because there its only a tiny termus and nx run it
NX don't 'run it' and Diamond terminate at Maypole, so shouldn't be a need for a bus to go there.
Quote from: Jack on July 04, 2022, 03:41:04 PM32136 has come all the way up to the Druids Heath terminus, and instead of using the turning circle had to turn into a side street to turn back round. Any idea why as they Diamond 50 only runs to Maypole?
Now the 50 is back at Tividale could be a Tividale driver who hasn't worked the route for a number of years and forgotten it had been curtailed to Maypole.
About 6 months after NX changed the 12 to operate via City Road & Portland Road I carried on along Sandon Road onto Hagley Road even though I knew the route had changed and had done it on two previous occasions since the change.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on July 04, 2022, 07:45:03 PMNow the 50 is back at Tividale could be a Tividale driver who hasn't worked the route for a number of years and forgotten it had been curtailed to Maypole.
About 6 months after NX changed the 12 to operate via City Road & Portland Road I carried on along Sandon Road onto Hagley Road even though I knew the route had changed and had done it on two previous occasions since the change.
Surley the running board shows the start/finish points of the service?
What year was it when it was curtailed at the Maypole? I think the Sunday journeys survived later?
Quote from: Jack on August 10, 2022, 04:59:43 AMDoes the 96 no longer do the Old Oscott loop?
It normally does the loop between 9am and 2pm
How long have the 31/32 had next stop announcement just caught 30926 and they started to announce next stops
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on October 19, 2022, 07:32:55 AMHow long have the 31/32 had next stop announcement just caught 30926 and they started to announce next stops
It's not a new thing Diamond had announcements before on the 40, 226, 42/43 and the 16 but they didn't last likely that these on the 31/32 probably won't
The Streetlite I caught last night, had it's stops out of sync!
QuoteThe Streetlite I caught last night, had it's stops out of sync!
30169 by anychance
32257 HF13FZN is now out on the 96 currently tracking as 32237
Quote from: cris 99 on November 02, 2022, 04:12:04 PM32257 HF13FZN is now out on the 96 currently tracking as 32237
32237 this week seems to have replaced the Tamworth mellor that was used on the 600.
First time I can remember it having a proper bus since it left Claribels.
30169 on the 326 finally broken down at Willenhall.
(20186 also running 15 minutes late, not helped by picking up 30169 intended passengers! Apparently it had been playing up all day!)
Quote from: Westy on November 11, 2022, 04:18:30 PM30169 on the 326 finally broken down at Willenhall.
(20186 also running 15 minutes late, not helped by picking up 30169 intended passengers! Apparently it had been playing up all day!)
A few drivers that I've spoken to have said that 30169 is a heap so this is not surprising
Think the ex Johnson scania has been removed from the yard
32316 has now been debranded from the 16
Quote from: cris 99 on December 22, 2022, 08:25:43 PM32316 has now been debranded from the 16
Yes except its kept the orange things on the front dest I think.
Makes sense with diamond 16 reducing down to every 20 mins. Some of these will likely be used elcewere instead such as the new 45 route.
Quote from: cris 99 on December 22, 2022, 08:25:43 PM32316 has now been debranded from the 16
Good! That branding has looked an awful mess for a long time!
The rest of them 16 branded need de-branding now alongside the 40 branded' 32308 and 32309 they look a right mess as well!
@Simon Dunn remove the branding off the 40 they are a state sort them out!
Quote from: hlliwmai on December 22, 2022, 11:39:05 PMGood! That branding has looked an awful mess for a long time!
The rest of them 16 branded need de-branding now alongside the 40 branded' 32308 and 32309 they look a right mess as well! @Simon Dunn remove the branding off the 40 they are a state sort them out!
Or they could just do what they did to the 226 and rebrand them like that... 32130 looks really smart would look silly leaving that as the only one branded.
32231 transfered to tividale as I thought I saw it on 82 but unsure
The 45 on sundays interworks with the 16A
Looks like the 27 & 82 interwork at Wolverhampton end on Sundays (and presumably evenings too). Not sure if the daytime Mon-Sat will interwork with another service.
32127 is tracking on the 4H and 82 at the same time. Supposedly its on the 1230pm service to Wolverhampton AND the 1232pm service from Walsall to Hayley Green.!
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 02, 2023, 01:08:05 PM32127 is tracking on the 4H and 82 at the same time. Supposedly its on the 1230pm service to Wolverhampton AND the 1232pm service from Walsall to Hayley Green.!
The fleet number of the bus is selected by the driver as he signs on (in the West Midlands) occasionally the driver may select the incorrect fleet number. This is usually picked up by inspectors who will get the driver to correct his/her mistake
Quote from: Steveminor on January 02, 2023, 09:54:14 PMThe fleet number of the bus is selected by the driver as he signs on (in the West Midlands) occasionally the driver may select the incorrect fleet number. This is usually picked up by inspectors who will get the driver to correct his/her mistake
32127 is again alternative tracking on the Diamond Bus tracker, this time on the DY17 and WB 45
30878 running 10 minutes early on 4H and has missed out sainsburies in blackheath
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 12, 2023, 10:35:59 AM30878 running 10 minutes early on 4H and has missed out sainsburies in blackheath
Do you not read things....
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/sandwell/2023/01/09/bus-stop-suspended-for-new-puffin-crossing-installation-works/
Besides Simon Dunn, does anyone from Tividale depot monitor this thread?
When was you made aware of the issues in Willenhall this morning?
The 326 drivers deserve a medal for keeping the service going today, despite what went on!(With a personal sacrifice by one driver I gather!)
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2023, 05:20:25 PMBesides Simon Dunn, does anyone from Tividale depot monitor this thread?
When was you made aware of the issues in Willenhall this morning?
The 326 drivers deserve a medal for keeping the service going today, despite what went on!(With a personal sacrifice by one driver I gather!)
I'm not entirely sure I believe one of the traffic office inspectors uses this forum but I can't be 100% I'm not sure but I think the Manager Director is on here too but again I'm not 100% sure
Would I be correct in thinking the permanant allocation for the 326 is now Mellors, as I haven't seen anything else on there since the start of the year?
@Simon Dunn i recommend a little word with the driver of 30409 who missed out the full route first thing this morning heading up Hayley green. This has been happening before too. Good chance it's the same driver.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 19, 2023, 06:13:15 PM@Simon Dunn i recommend a little word with the driver of 30409 who missed out the full route first thing this morning heading up Hayley green. This has been happening before too. Good chance it's the same driver.
Do you know the exact time?
0626 from Oldbury Interchange to Hayley Green. Terminated at Hasbury.
Becomes 0658 from Hayley Green to Walsall. Started from Hasbury, Uffmore Lane at 0659, 3 minutes early.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 19, 2023, 09:37:49 PM0626 from Oldbury Interchange to Hayley Green. Terminated at Hasbury.
Becomes 0658 from Hayley Green to Walsall. Started from Hasbury, Uffmore Lane at 0659, 3 minutes early.
This journey
@Simon Dunn also happened last Friday same journey times
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 19, 2023, 09:37:49 PM0626 from Oldbury Interchange to Hayley Green. Terminated at Hasbury.
Becomes 0658 from Hayley Green to Walsall. Started from Hasbury, Uffmore Lane at 0659, 3 minutes early.
We review the tracking and action this.
The 002 new timetable is not working at all well. Frequency reduced and a tighter timetable = disaster
Quote from: Westy on January 16, 2023, 08:38:46 PMWould I be correct in thinking the permanant allocation for the 326 is now Mellors, as I haven't seen anything else on there since the start of the year?
Spoke too soon.
We had a Solo on there today!
@Simon Dunn seems that drivers don't like doing the full route and instead like to park on the Dudley road just off oldbury island on the way to depot. Seen 30887 the other day parked half on the pavement displaying NIS and todays culprit looks to be 30813
Personally don't know why you bother putting the last 4s up to blackheath anyway surely would make perfect sense to run them to oldbury only
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 11, 2023, 07:07:16 PMPersonally don't know why you bother putting the last 4s up to blackheath anyway surely would make perfect sense to run them to oldbury only
The timetable on bus times says 18:28 goes to West Bromwich only. Definitely a different timetable on bus times and diamond site.
Then again bus times 54 timetable is also wrong to.
Quote from: 2206 on February 11, 2023, 07:16:39 PMThe timetable on bus times says 18:28 goes to West Bromwich only. Definitely a different timetable on bus times and diamond site.
Then again bus times 54 timetable is also wrong to.
That's wrong bus times is not reliable for timetable info
Diamond Service changes for 15th April & subsequent discussion split from Tividale Depot thread (as it has gone way off topic) & merged with multiple other threads started on the same subject:
Diamond Bus Service Changes 15th April 2023 thread:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=6420.0
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 11, 2023, 07:35:12 PMThat's wrong bus times is not reliable for timetable info
BusTimes is only as reliable as the data in the feeds it uses.
As I said before, "garbage in, garbage out" is the old saying, BusTimes itself is not to blame.
20736 not tracking on the 326.
(I'm on it, back to Bloxwich!)
45 and 16A no longer interworking. 45 3 B7RLES on it
3 Solo's today on the 4H - 20058, 20888 & 30638, I assume as a result of 30410-12 transferring to Kidderminster Depot
Quote from: winston on February 28, 2023, 01:12:13 PM3 Solo's today on the 4H - 20058, 20888 & 30638, I assume as a result of 30410-12 transferring to Kidderminster Depot
30638 seems a regular on it atm. That's a full size solo so it's not too bad.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2023, 08:08:11 AM45 and 16A no longer interworking. 45 3 B7RLES on it
That's because the 45 has been reduced to every 30 minutes
30802 is pumping out black smoke
@Simon Dunn
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 10, 2023, 11:37:58 AM30802 is pumping out black smoke @Simon Dunn
I have asked for the vehicle to be smoke tested this morning
Any idea what buses are on Birmingham to Wolverhampton rail replacement today
Saw pics on Facebook on a brand new street lite BN23YSC is this one of the 2 that was due ?
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on March 12, 2023, 10:39:30 AMAny idea what buses are on Birmingham to Wolverhampton rail replacement today
Burton's Streetdeck 40726 seemed to be one of the vehicles that was on the Rail Replacement's.
Quote from: Jack6101 on March 13, 2023, 05:46:53 PMSaw pics on Facebook on a brand new street lite BN23YSC is this one of the 2 that was due ?
Yes.
32260 BN23YSD
32261 BN23YSC
Quote from: Bus127us on March 13, 2023, 07:16:16 PMGood evening if you could answer the question would be appreciated today my partner caught the 002 in Cromwell lane, wasn't supposed to leave weoloy castle till 1422 it arrived at Cromwell lane at 1422??
So obviously you didn't want to consider that this was a late running service. Probably due to traffic conditions that are beyond the drivers control.
Instead you'd rather blame the driver and accuse them off running early.
Vehicles – 002 - Weoley Castle - Merry Hill – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/002-weoley-castle-merry-hill/vehicles?date=2023-03-13#journeys/397998119)
Quote from: 2206 on March 13, 2023, 07:21:03 PMSo obviously you didn't want to consider that this was a late running service. Probably due to traffic conditions that are beyond the drivers control.
Instead you'd rather blame the driver and accuse them off running early.
Vehicles – 002 - Weoley Castle - Merry Hill – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/002-weoley-castle-merry-hill/vehicles?date=2023-03-13#journeys/397998119)
It looks as though the next two 002's from Weoley Castle had issues too.
The new timetable for the 002 simply does not work. Simon knows about this too as he previously admitted the timetable wasn't up to scratch with reliability suffering. I don't know what the issue is on the route.
YSC is in service on the 42
32260 is on the 002 in white
One of the new streetlites is Tracking as BD20 OCN today on the 16A if anyone wants it
One of the deckers in tividale (yellow bus)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 20, 2023, 12:37:11 PMOne of the deckers in tividale (yellow bus)
There should be two at Tividale
Not sure what the issue was this morning but the 06:35 ex Hayley green, 06:44 and 06:58 failed to operate
@Simon Dunn
0715am 326 not running.
Only 2 vehicles out of 3 on, it appears!
Quote from: Westy on March 21, 2023, 07:37:24 AM0715am 326 not running.
Only 2 vehicles out of 3 on, it appears!
3 out of 4 on there now it seems
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 21, 2023, 10:31:34 AM3 out of 4 on there now it seems
The PVR is 3. There was a delay in a bus this morning, this delay was caused by defects/ breakdown in entering service
Quote from: Simon Dunn on March 21, 2023, 10:57:48 AMThe PVR is 3. There was a delay in a bus this morning, this delay was caused by defects/ breakdown in entering service
It always seems to be that 715am journey though!
That's why I stopped catching it, as I couldn't rely on it.
The bus that becomes the 745am, has never failed to my knowledge!
Quote from: Westy on March 21, 2023, 12:03:51 PMIt always seems to be that 715am journey though!
That's why I stopped catching it, as I couldn't rely on it.
The bus that becomes the 745am, has never failed to my knowledge!
I am sorry, we will have problems on occasion. However, this morning there was an accumulation of issues which meant the vehicle was far too late out.
Simon
Since when has the 45 been rerouted to serve Orchard Road and Woodruff Way?
Quote from: Jack on March 22, 2023, 03:44:42 PMSince when has the 45 been rerouted to serve Orchard Road and Woodruff Way?
Since 1st January 2023
Quote from: Lukeee on March 22, 2023, 08:07:08 PMSince 1st January 2023
The map on Diamond's bus tracker shows the route as running along Greenside Way.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 22, 2023, 09:16:32 PMThe map on Diamond's bus tracker shows the route as running along Greenside Way.
Map is wrong, they all follow the old 401E loop
The vehicle on the 17H has a paper 17H been displayed as the blinds are just showing diamond
Apparently, according to one driver I was talking to earlier, the drivers are getting a breakfast sandwich tomorrow, as a thank.you.
Let's hope they get more than that, when all this is over?
BN23YSC on the 002 this morning 1004 from merry hill not tracking no Fleet numbers.
Quote from: Westy on March 23, 2023, 07:38:33 PMApparently, according to one driver I was talking to earlier, the drivers are getting a breakfast sandwich tomorrow, as a thank.you.
Let's hope they get more than that, when all this is over?
They have a significant pay rise from next month I believe, the second or third in the last twelve months
Quote from: metrocity on March 26, 2023, 11:01:15 AMThey have a significant pay rise from next month I believe, the second or third in the last twelve months
Diamond putting their pay up again? Wow...
Even if diamond wages were slightly lower than nx wages I'd rather work for diamond given the type of customer diamond carries compared to nx and the routes it operates too. I'm sure most diamond drivers would agree with this.
A nice mellor working around Wednesbury or a horrible Dudley road corridor with non stop traffic and abusive passengers 🤔
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2023, 04:33:47 PMEven if diamond wages were slightly lower than nx wages I'd rather work for diamond given the type of customer diamond carries compared to nx and the routes it operates too. I'm sure most diamond drivers would agree with this.
A nice mellor working around Wednesbury or a horrible Dudley road corridor with non stop traffic and abusive passengers 🤔
You wouldn't hack being a nx driver
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2023, 04:33:47 PMEven if diamond wages were slightly lower than nx wages I'd rather work for diamond given the type of customer diamond carries compared to nx and the routes it operates too. I'm sure most diamond drivers would agree with this.
A nice mellor working around Wednesbury or a horrible Dudley road corridor with non stop traffic and abusive passengers 🤔
Yeah but give it 2 weeks of doing that same route everyday with 3 passengers an hour on and you'll realise how mind numbingly boring that actually is.
Obviously suits some people doing that who don't want the hassle of lots of passengers, but the day and shift goes far faster if you are busy. And also, maybe 1 in every 500 passengers will be really problematic so it's not as bad as you make out.
Non-drivers/passengers never really understand this, you make one or two trips a day - if you see something bad happen then suddenly that must be the reality of every trip when of course it is not. And likewise, you say driving those minibuses round estates would be easy and trouble free? I guarantee those drivers get plenty of grief from car drivers who no doubt drive or park irresponsibly on said estates.
I hope you do get to do the job one day, if you get through a couple of years you'll do it for life!
Quote from: j789 on March 26, 2023, 05:35:41 PMYeah but give it 2 weeks of doing that same route everyday with 3 passengers an hour on and you'll realise how mind numbingly boring that actually is.
Obviously suits some people doing that who don't want the hassle of lots of passengers, but the day and shift goes far faster if you are busy. And also, maybe 1 in every 500 passengers will be really problematic so it's not as bad as you make out.
Non-drivers/passengers never really understand this, you make one or two trips a day - if you see something bad happen then suddenly that must be the reality of every trip when of course it is not. And likewise, you say driving those minibuses round estates would be easy and trouble free? I guarantee those drivers get plenty of grief from car drivers who no doubt drive or park irresponsibly on said estates.
I hope you do get to do the job one day, if you get through a couple of years you'll do it for life!
1 in 500? In Worcester perhaps !
Yeah because going up and down *insert trunk road here* isn't boring at all...
Talking rubbish as usual.
Quote from: MW on March 26, 2023, 06:40:19 PMYeah because going up and down *insert trunk road here* isn't boring at all...
Talking rubbish as usual.
Rubbish? As usual no thought goes into your response at all. Just vitriol.
Said 'trunk road' route will see you interacting with probably 400-500 passengers on an average shift. You are busy, pretty much non-stop, the shift time (seems to) go far quicker than when you are driving routes seeing maybe 15-20 passengers an hour. It's common sense that time drags when you're not busy!
Worcester is no comparison to the West Mids obviously but having worked at other garages (like I do now!), including Sheffield, over a long period, what I am saying is true.
Driving round the posh suburbs of Solihull with few passengers on may be a great life achievement for you and full of personal fulfilment but to me it's bloody boring. I've done plenty of shifts in my driving time on tendered routes, where seeing hardly any passengers makes it so tedious.
Fine if that appeals to you but I can't think of anything more boring than doing that for another 20 years (or until your company loses the contract at the next round of tenders and you end up back at Diamond driving these same routes!)
Quote from: karl724223 on March 26, 2023, 05:27:49 PMYou wouldn't hack being a nx driver
Well you'd certainly put passengers straight on 4H
@karl724223 plenty of people think it's a free for all on that route
Quote from: j789 on March 26, 2023, 07:05:12 PMRubbish? As usual no thought goes into your response at all. Just vitriol.
Said 'trunk road' route will see you interacting with probably 400-500 passengers on an average shift. You are busy, pretty much non-stop, the shift time (seems to) go far quicker than when you are driving routes seeing maybe 15-20 passengers an hour. It's common sense that time drags when you're not busy!
Worcester is no comparison to the West Mids obviously but having worked at other garages (like I do now!), including Sheffield, over a long period, what I am saying is true.
Driving round the posh suburbs of Solihull with few passengers on may be a great life achievement for you and full of personal fulfilment but to me it's bloody boring. I've done plenty of shifts in my driving time on tendered routes, where seeing hardly any passengers makes it so tedious.
Fine if that appeals to you but I can't think of anything more boring than doing that for another 20 years (or until your company loses the contract at the next round of tenders and you end up back at Diamond driving these same routes!)
How much more stressful is it though? You end up coming off late to break you get abusive customers health and safety becomes a hazard. So you're telling me that you'd rather drive the 11A/11C (notorious for late running, antisocial behaviour) than a tendered diamond route such as the 142/142A. I've noticed one of PN best and most politest drivers is now driving the 142/142A. Interesting maybe he had enough of the rude passengers in Birmingham
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2023, 10:16:51 PMHow much more stressful is it though? You end up coming off late to break you get abusive customers health and safety becomes a hazard. So you're telling me that you'd rather drive the 11A/11C (notorious for late running, antisocial behaviour) than a tendered diamond route such as the 142/142A. I've noticed one of PN best and most politest drivers is now driving the 142/142A. Interesting maybe he had enough of the rude passengers in Birmingham
Yes of course it can be stressful and there certainly are easier ways to earn a living but there are lots of benefits if you don't take things personally. Do the job, enjoy the nice passengers (of who there are many), don't let the odd t*** get you down, if you're late, you're late (not a reason to get stressed - unless you're the only bus running on a tendered route of course!!!), go home, end of!
I've given my reasons for preferring busier routes. I do get your point about things like the 142 but what you have to remember is that would be lovely doing that as a one off, or even maybe once every fortnight. However, the thought of doing those sort of routes day in day out would be so boring and tedious. The positives of having few passengers would wear thin very quickly and after a couple of weeks doing that I'd be absolutely done with driving. Each to their own though.
Another point is that those routes like the 142 have predominantly regular passengers that you WILL pretty much see every time you drive. No problem of course if you don't have any issues with them, but very much a problem if you do encounter a problem with one of them. You can't escape seeing them. Busier routes may have more of these antisocial type of passenger but you have a much lower chance of encountering that same person regularly on that busier service when there are 20 buses on the route compared to the 1/2 buses on a tendered route.
I noticed 30926 on the 31 earlier in Bloxwich has had it's 31/32 branding removed I have noticed they have started removing branding off buses in the last few months I can only assume 30926 has been done as there's possibly a PVR reduction on the 31/32? I don't know I'm just guessing
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 03, 2023, 06:02:39 PMI noticed 30926 on the 31 earlier in Bloxwich has had it's 31/32 branding removed I have noticed they have started removing branding off buses in the last few months I can only assume 30926 has been done as there's possibly a PVR reduction on the 31/32? I don't know I'm just guessing
30926 isn't Euro 6, which all buses operating within TfWM area will need to be by 1st May.
Quote from: winston on April 03, 2023, 06:10:42 PM30926 isn't Euro 6, which all buses operating within TfWM area will need to be by 1st May.
Oh yeah I forgot about that coming into force so I assume this means that the remaining branded Volvo's and Streetlites (30169 & 30170) on the 31/32 and the 42 branded Volvo's will have branding removed in due course
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 03, 2023, 06:26:23 PMOh yeah I forgot about that coming into force so I assume this means that the remaining branded Volvo's and Streetlites (30169 & 30170) on the 31/32 and the 42 branded Volvo's will have branding removed in due course
I've since learnt that the 42/43 branding is being removed & will be replaced with updated branding with correct frequencies / destinations etc. Not sure if that also includes the 31/32 & 40 branding which have original now incorrect frequencies too.
Also a quantity of the newer Volvo B7RLE will now be retrofitted to Euro 6 in due course.
Not sure of the status of Streetlites 30169/70, as they're not Euro 6 & not currently expected to be upgraded to Euro 6.
Could they move to Diamond East Midlands where Euro 6 isn't yet required?
Quote from: Rachvince53 on April 03, 2023, 09:47:29 PMCould they move to Diamond East Midlands where Euro 6 isn't yet required?
I assume some Tividale buses will move to Burton, my money would be on Versa's 30968-70 to join 30967. Burton doesn't currently have any Streetlites.
I'd imagine Redditch or Kidderminster would be more likely for older Streetlites.
Quote from: winston on April 03, 2023, 10:02:23 PMI assume some Tividale buses will move to Burton, my money would be on Versa's 30968-70 to join 30967. Burton doesn't currently have any Streetlites.
I'd imagine Redditch or Kidderminster would be more likely for older Streetlites.
I had heard that Redditch Streetlites (30165-68) and (32212-19) are transferring to Tividale at some point as I think *some* of those are actually Euro 6 so it would make sense if that were the case
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 03, 2023, 10:55:27 PMI had heard that Redditch Streetlites (30165-68) and (32212-19) are transferring to Tividale at some point as I think *some* of those are actually Euro 6 so it would make sense if that were the case
Not that I've heard, and they are all Euro 5. 16 plate & onwards are Euro 6.
Quote from: winston on April 03, 2023, 10:58:28 PMNot that I've heard, and they are all Euro 5. 16 plate & onwards are Euro 6.
@winston I've just looked on the Clean Air Zone Checker
30165 and 30167 are Euro 6 (therefore exempt from the £50 Charge) as are the following vehicles listed below so this would explain what I heard that they're transferring to Tividale as extra Euro 6 vehicles
32212 (No Charge)
32213 (No Charge)
32215 (No Charge)
32216 (No Charge)
32217 (No Charge)
32218 (No Charge)
32219 (No Charge)
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 12:54:43 PM@winston
I've just looked on the Clean Air Zone Checker
30165 and 30167 are Euro 6 (therefore exempt from the £50 Charge) as are the following vehicles listed below so this would explain what I heard that they're transferring to Tividale as extra Euro 6 vehicles
32212 (No Charge)
32213 (No Charge)
32215 (No Charge)
32216 (No Charge)
32217 (No Charge)
32218 (No Charge)
32219 (No Charge)
None of those are Euro 6. They're all Euro 5.
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 12:54:43 PM@winston
I've just looked on the Clean Air Zone Checker
30165 and 30167 are Euro 6 (therefore exempt from the £50 Charge) as are the following vehicles listed below so this would explain what I heard that they're transferring to Tividale as extra Euro 6 vehicles
32212 (No Charge)
32213 (No Charge)
32215 (No Charge)
32216 (No Charge)
32217 (No Charge)
32218 (No Charge)
32219 (No Charge)
Not according to Rotala's fleetlist they're not. They are stated as Euro 5 & I don't believe they've been retro fitted as Euro 6 either, you never see any of those in Birmingham on the 50 from Redditch depot.
Quote from: winston on April 04, 2023, 02:04:09 PMNot according to Rotala's fleetlist they're not. They are stated as Euro 5 & I don't believe they've been retro fitted as Euro 6 either, you never see any of those in Birmingham on the 50 from Redditch depot.
To be fair to hlliwmai, I've just checked 4 of the vehicles in that list on the Government clean air zone website checker (https://vehiclecheck.drive-clean-air-zone.service.gov.uk/vehicle_checkers/enter_details) and they all state that there is no charge for entering the clean air zone, so I can see why they're thinking that.
Quote from: winston on April 04, 2023, 02:04:09 PMNot according to Rotala's fleetlist they're not. They are stated as Euro 5 & I don't believe they've been retro fitted as Euro 6 either, you never see any of those in Birmingham on the 50 from Redditch depot.
@Simon Dunn can you confirm if what the Clean Air Zone Checker is saying about these buses is correct?
Quote from: ellspurs on April 04, 2023, 02:24:32 PMTo be fair to hlliwmai, I've just checked 4 of the vehicles in that list on the Government clean air zone website checker (https://vehiclecheck.drive-clean-air-zone.service.gov.uk/vehicle_checkers/enter_details) and they all state that there is no charge for entering the clean air zone, so I can see why they're thinking that.
Thanks for that let's face it the Clean Air Zone checker wouldn't lie
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 04:01:51 PMThanks for that let's face it the Clean Air Zone checker wouldn't lie
Have a look at BF02ASZ which is my car, doesn't meet required standard but still says no charge!
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 04:01:51 PMThanks for that let's face it the Clean Air Zone checker wouldn't lie
You're wrong. There's plenty of cases of vehicles wrongly recorded on the CAZ checker.
Cummins engined Streetlites were available at Euro 5 and were discontinued at Euro 6 in favour of the Daimler unit. These vehicles haven't been upgraded either, as if you search "SO65LRZ" which was 32214, and was scrapped at around 2 years old well before the Clean Air Zone, you will find that this vehicle also has "No Charge".
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2023, 04:06:46 PMHave a look at BF02ASZ which is my car, doesn't meet required standard but still says no charge!
@Tony now that's very surprising as I own a 52 reg Focus and that's City Centre compliant so I'm very surprised your car isn't (nice car btw I do like old Rover's) :cheesy:
* I should add, what this means is whilst the vehicles are not ULEZ/Euro 6, the reality is that if they drove into B'ham, they wouldn't receive a penalty, until the database gets updated.
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 04:25:38 PM@Tony now that's very surprising as I own a 52 reg Focus and that's City Centre compliant so I'm very surprised your car isn't (nice car btw I do like old Rover's) :cheesy:
How does a 2002 car have a euro 4 status when euro 4 wasn't introduced until 2006
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2023, 04:37:06 PMHow does a 2002 car have a euro 4 status when euro 4 wasn't introduced until 2006
It is possible.
Example. A 2011 Mercedes S350 Bluetec meets Euro 6 standard and is therefore ULEZ compliant, despite Euro 6 being introduced in 2014.
Likewise, a 2001 (yes 2001) Nissan Almera with the 1.5 engine is ULEZ compliant. The engine/exhaust meet the requirements.
Well it must of been compliant
@Tony as I used to live in Newtown which as you know is right in the middle of the clean air zone and whilst living there I never received a fine to say my car wasn't compliant either way I've no idea and I don't make the rules
Quote from: hlliwmai on April 04, 2023, 05:10:42 PMWell it must of been compliant @Tony as I used to live in Newtown which as you know is right in the middle of the clean air zone and whilst living there I never received a fine to say my car wasn't compliant either way I've no idea and I don't make the rules
So you don't even know where you live then?
No part of Newtown is in the clean air zone.
So from all that, it seems that either the databases aren't correct currently and your vehicle (and those vehicles) are showing as compliant when they aren't, or they're using something else other than just the literal "Euro 4/6" to determine the rating.
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2023, 05:50:40 PMSo you don't even know where you live then?
No part of Newtown is in the clean air zone.
Of course Newtown is within the Clean Air Zone. Centro House on Summer Lane is both within the Clean Air Zone & Newtown.
According to the map attached, roughly 50% of Newtown is within the Clean Air Zone.
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10338/newtown.pdf
Quote from: MW on April 04, 2023, 06:39:40 PMOf course Newtown is within the Clean Air Zone. Centro House on Summer Lane is both within the Clean Air Zone & Newtown.
According to the map attached, roughly 50% of Newtown is within the Clean Air Zone.
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/10338/newtown.pdf
Newtown electoral ward, you will not find anyone at Centro House who says they are in Newtown.
Miller Street is, and has always been in Aston, not Newtown, similarly according to that map
Similarly Snow Hill Station is not, and has never been in Ladywood
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2023, 05:50:40 PMSo you don't even know where you live then?
No part of Newtown is in the clean air zone.
The part I lived was on Summer Lane by the Texaco Petrol Station just up from Newtown Police Station there is a clean air zone camera by that Petrol station
42/3 branded 30924 is now been debranded saw this morning on great bridge high street
They've put a mellor on the 16A. Few people had to be turned away due to it being full
Any idea why a NX coventry trident 43** I believe was seen entering tividale depot this morning??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 12, 2023, 08:57:26 AMAny idea why a NX coventry trident 43** I believe was seen entering tividale depot this morning??
Only Coventry 43xx Trident is 4370 which is sat withdrawn inside Coventry garage
Quote from: Tony on April 12, 2023, 09:04:14 AMOnly Coventry 43xx Trident is 4370 which is sat withdrawn inside Coventry garage
It could of been 4414 which is owned by James Strevens who runs the "Travel Coventry - Bus Preservation Group" he owns 6015 too
Saw streetdeck exiting depot this morning
40826 and 40834 both on the 002 today
Quote from: midlandred2003 on April 25, 2023, 10:13:45 AM40826 and 40834 both on the 002 today
It's odd that a route which was being threatened to be cancelled has got double deckers on...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 25, 2023, 06:19:16 PMIt's odd that a route which was being threatened to be cancelled has got double deckers on...
Depending on the fuel efficiency of the vehicle, double deckers may be cheaper to run than single deckers so the company may actually be saving money compared to using older singles on there.
Also, it is obvious (as with all operators to a certain point) that this was playing 'politics' to get the councils to increase subsidies. This seems to have worked so fair play to Diamond. This approach is made obvious by the fact that despite stating every commercial route was loss making in the West Midlands, there was no major cuts planned to services where they compete with another operator, eg the 16 and 50. Obviously, cutting these would not have led to any increased subsidy being given as there is an alternative operator.
Is 30705 supposed to be working in the West Midlands or the North West?
Bustimes.org has it down as being on the 326 in the West Midlands & also running between Stockport & Macclesfield in the North West today?
30705 is a tividale bus now
Quote from: cris 99 on May 03, 2023, 03:11:59 PM30705 is a tividale bus now
Well I'm on 30704, operating that 1536 from Bilston, so suspect he's put the wrong number in!
Ye he's inputted the wrong number 30704 is on the 326 I've seen a pic but 30705 is also at tividale now
32235 down Merry Hill in service on the 18 with only 'Diamond Midlands' on the LED display, no paper route number either....
Quote from: winston on May 09, 2023, 08:18:20 PM32235 down Merry Hill in service on the 18 with only 'Diamond Midlands' on the LED display, no paper route number either....
Thank you I have passed this on to investigate the issue.
30713 is on the 18 with no destination blinds working
Two ex little gems enviros in diamond colours seen on Kelvin way west Bromwich going towards tividale
Anyone know if there's a 3rd bus on the 326, as only 2 are tracking?
.
(I'm interested for the 1536 from Bilston!)
Quote from: Westy on May 22, 2023, 03:25:40 PMAnyone know if there's a 3rd bus on the 326, as only 2 are tracking?
.
(I'm interested for the 1536 from Bilston!)
All 3 are tracking now.
Quote from: winston on May 22, 2023, 03:29:27 PMAll 3 are tracking now.
Just this second got it.
Ta.
Any of the ex Central Buses darts going soon? Looking at possible purchasing one
Quote from: mrboshell on June 06, 2023, 09:31:07 PMAny of the ex Central Buses darts going soon? Looking at possible purchasing one
The only one left is 30960 - EU06 WGM which was removed from service at Tividale fairly recently; you would need to speak to
@Simon Dunn
Quote from: hlliwmai on June 06, 2023, 10:18:34 PMThe only one left is 30960 - EU06 WGM which was removed from service at Tividale fairly recently; you would need to speak to @Simon Dunn
Ahh that's a real shame! I was looking into purchasing EU06 ZBR but unfortunately fell through our hands
Quote from: mrboshell on June 06, 2023, 11:04:12 PMAhh that's a real shame! I was looking into purchasing EU06 ZBR but unfortunately fell through our hands
I don't think they've got rid of it yet it'll probably be parked on the yard; like I said it would probably worth emailing Simon he would be able to confirm if it is for sale and how much
@mrboshell actually I've just had remembered Diamond STILL have EU06 KOX parked on the staff car park so actually it's not just WGM they have I had weirdly forgotten about KOX
Looks like 32240 has broken down in the 529 stand in Walsall Bus Station.
(If he hasn't, why are hazards flashing, & he's there anyway?)
Edit : Looks like Nx radio control have just confirmed it!
I like to see that diamond loves playing their games as per usual not picking passengers up when the bus stop is rammed thought that what a bus stop is for
Driver who is driving 30702 on the 50
Quote from: Bethhart2022 on June 23, 2023, 11:14:57 AMI like to see that diamond loves playing their games as per usual not picking passengers up when the bus stop is rammed thought that what a bus stop is for
Driver who is driving 30702 on the 50
Do you have the time location and direction of travel please so this can be investigated
32132 out on the 27/27A displaying 'Diamond Buses'. Will this be rectified?
Quote from: Jack on June 23, 2023, 04:34:23 PM32132 out on the 27/27A displaying 'Diamond Buses'. Will this be rectified?
Thank you.
Thus has been reported to the depot to look into
Quote from: Steveminor on June 23, 2023, 08:57:31 PMThank you.
Thus has been reported to the depot to look into
I travelled on 20887 on 18 the other morning and that also sayed diamond on front
Quote from: Jack on June 26, 2023, 02:38:22 PM14:31 54 from Hamstead Village has failed to operate. Any idea why?
Quite normal last week seen the 54 do a you turn at the shell petrol station the same driver takes his bus home and blocks the pavement outside his house
Quote from: Nxwm on June 26, 2023, 04:12:29 PMQuite normal last week seen the 54 do a you turn at the shell petrol station the same driver takes his bus home and blocks the pavement outside his house
If that's the case report it to the local authorities and get it towed
40819 not tracking since April ,I have seen it several times recently.
Buses currently on tividale scrap yard what I seen the other day
-32123
-30878
-30879
- EX first bus streetlite (SM13 NBF)
- EX first bus streetlite (SM13 NBJ)
- EX first bus streetlite (SM13 NAE)
-21108
-30887
-20744
-30406
-30809
-30950
- EX hallmarks scania (LX59 CNZ)
-30407
-20010
Some other buses that was on here but have disappeared.
-30802
-30806 (donated)
-20732
-30978 (EX Johnson's)
-30979 (EX Johnson's)
-30409 (now back in service at kiddy)
-30807
-30832 (now back in service at kiddy)
30878/9 surely could be sold on? Shame they didn't get Euro 6'd they're very good workhorses.
Quote from: Jack on July 05, 2023, 01:50:18 PM30878/9 surely could be sold on? Shame they didn't get Euro 6'd they're very good workhorses.
They have been sold on to a dealer (full list below), Rotala are currently awaiting payment at last count:
30878 SN10CDF
30879 SN10CDK
30970 YJ57XVY
30929 KX07OOW
30638 YJ06YPV
40518 LX59CNZ
Quote from: Jack on July 05, 2023, 01:50:18 PM30878/9 surely could be sold on? Shame they didn't get Euro 6'd they're very good workhorses.
They have been sold to de luxe coaches just still at our depot untill payment has been finalised. I wanted to see 30878 and 30879 into the brighter diamond livery but not going to happen unfortunately
Your depot I didn't realise you worked at diamond?
Quote from: Jack on July 05, 2023, 01:50:18 PM30878/9 surely could be sold on? Shame they didn't get Euro 6'd they're very good workhorses.
These buses were crap good riddance to them. Jerky slow nails.
30970 will be missed though. Do like those Versas
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 05, 2023, 08:38:00 PMThese buses were crap good riddance to them. Jerky slow nails.
30970 will be missed though. Do like those Versas
They were far from slow, the only one that wont be missed is 30929, it's ready for the scrap heap. The E300's were great, never heard any drivers moan about them.
Streetlites 32260 & 32261 were transferred to DBNW (Bolton) yesterday to act as additional paint floats to cover Manchester based buses being repainted in to Bee Network Livery.
In addition, 2 x Streetdecks were brought back down from Manchester & will be repainted in to Bee Network livery at Wilcox, Brownhills (Rotala's WM based painter)
@Tony was on 30707 on 4H earlier and I think it was you taking a pic of it near to tamebridge train station
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 29, 2023, 01:28:29 PM@Tony was on 30707 on 4H earlier and I think it was you taking a pic of it near to tamebridge train station
Yes, It was me.
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2023, 02:22:24 PMYes, It was me.
That thing I can only presume was put out of service in West Brom shortly after. Travelled on 30703 (MCV) and I do love the shape of these vehicles. One thing I would say is they are painfully slow at getting up hills.
Quote from: Stu on July 29, 2023, 07:28:06 PMThanks for the clarification, I do think they meant 'NX Bus' rather than 'nBus' in their comment, either that or someone is giving them 'duff information'.
I can confirm that I did travel on your 50 service today from Kings Heath to Maypole, and my NX DD Regional Travelcard was accepted with no issue.
I will take the opportunity to point out that while I did enjoy my journey on your Optare Metrodecker 40845, the upper deck front left seat had its seat base removed and was on the floor. Not sure if that was the reason why this bus was seemingly later taken out of service.
Also, it might be too early to say, but would you say that passenger loadings have increased on the 50 since the ticketing changes at the start of this month?
From walking through Birmingham I have noticed more people on the 16A (weather that be because its a double decker or the new timetable.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on July 29, 2023, 07:41:13 PMFrom walking through Birmingham I have noticed more people on the 16A (weather that be because its a double decker or the new timetable.
(Split from Rotala Management topic, as that's not for 'general discussion')
To be honest, I would expect more passengers to use Diamond services now, especially (like myself) existing NX-only pass holders, who can just get on the first bus that comes.
This afternoon in Kings Heath, I waited nearly 10 minutes for a 50 to show up, and I was expecting it to be rammed full. As it happened, the first one that came was a lightly-loaded Diamond Metrodecker, which I promptly boarded. There was one lady at the stop who indicated to others she was waiting "for the West Midlands one", perhaps she was going to Druids Heath I don't know, I didn't hang around to ask to be honest.
There was another younger lady who had a paper ticket (presumably an nBus day ticket), who was being told by another gentleman in the queue that she "couldn't use it on this bus".
Maybe as Simon has suggested, TfWM would do well to launch a media campaign to clarify to people what has happened with ticketing changes.
The other aspect to this, which I don't think I've seen mentioned, is that this has essentially brought to an end the existing 'partnerships' on the 31/32, 40 and 42/43 routes.
Quote from: Stu on July 29, 2023, 08:16:52 PM(Split from Rotala Management topic, as that's not for 'general discussion')
To be honest, I would expect more passengers to use Diamond services now, especially (like myself) existing NX-only pass holders, who can just get on the first bus that comes.
This afternoon in Kings Heath, I waited nearly 10 minutes for a 50 to show up, and I was expecting it to be rammed full. As it happened, the first one that came was a lightly-loaded Diamond Metrodecker, which I promptly boarded. There was one lady at the stop who indicated to others she was waiting "for the West Midlands one", perhaps she was going to Druids Heath I don't know, I didn't hang around to ask to be honest.
There was another younger lady who had a paper ticket (presumably an nBus day ticket), who was being told by another gentleman in the queue that she "couldn't use it on this bus".
Maybe as Simon has suggested, TfWM would do well to launch a media campaign to clarify to people what has happened with ticketing changes.
The other aspect to this, which I don't think I've seen mentioned, is that this has essentially brought to an end the existing 'partnerships' on the 31/32, 40 and 42/43 routes.
TfWM ought to produce a booklet similar to what NX produced when shutting the Travelshops, telling you what's available, what's valid where etc etc.
Only thing is now, is there's no obvious places locally where the booklets can be collected from now.
The only place in Walsall Bus Station used to be the newsagents, which shut not long after the Travelshops closed & the place that took it over, the community hub / cafe thing is only open certain hours out of the day!
When I was taking a bus to paint this afternoon one of the newly acquired ex First Streetlites went across at The Scott Arms with some new panels on looking like it was off for painting
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2023, 08:45:56 PMWhen I was taking a bus to paint this afternoon one of the newly acquired ex First Streetlites went across at The Scott Arms with some new panels on looking like it was off for painting
There's already a number of the first batch of 14 x Streetlites painted & in store over the road from the main Tividale depot.
Few pulsars on the 002 today...
I feel bad for any 002 users in that case
Quote from: hlliwmai on August 04, 2023, 11:38:46 PM@Simon Dunn
I would like to bring to your attention to the fact I was waiting in Halesowen Bus Station earlier this afternoon (04/08) for the 14:37 4H to Walsall I was watching the bus on bustimes (30706; 14:28 journey ex Hayley Green) the bus DID NOT serve the bus station as you will see on the tracking data; the bus came to the roundabout at the bottom of Hagley Road (by Lidl) and turned right back towards Shenstone Island, it wasn't just me waiting. There was quite a crowd in the bus station and I had to wait a further 30 mins for another Diamond 4H to Walsall to arrive, I did not get the NX 4H for the fact that most of the passengers that were waiting for (30706) ended up getting on that one thus meaning it got full quite quick. Upon further investigation it appears that 30706 returned to depot. I was wondering whether you could look into this as it was quite frustrating having to delay my journey.
I believe the bus had a suspension issue hence why it returned to depot.
20887 not tracking on 326.
According to Bustimes, only 2 buses on the 326.
Is that right?
The 326 seems to be on diversion, not serving Dudleys Fields, due to works taking place near to Bloxwich railway station, according to my nephew who lives right by the affected area.
The journeys are operating direct via Sneyd Lane instead.
Nothing online about it, it appears.
Quote from: Westy on August 24, 2023, 09:20:11 PMThe 326 seems to be on diversion, not serving Dudleys Fields, due to works taking place near to Bloxwich railway station, according to my nephew who lives right by the affected area.
The journeys are operating direct via Sneyd Lane instead.
Nothing online about it, it appears.
Nothing on Diamond or TfWM. However one.network states the roadworks on Croxdene Avenue (junction improvements) will finish on 5th September 2023.
Quote from: Jack on August 04, 2023, 11:47:50 PMWhy?
They are very slow buses in general so they will barely make it up the hills
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on August 31, 2023, 04:20:05 PMThey are very slow buses in general so they will barely make it up the hills
They aren't they are fast off the mark, 32134 is the a very slow bus that has no power but the others aren't slow at all.
Quote from: Jack on August 31, 2023, 05:34:57 PMThey aren't they are fast off the mark, 32134 is the a very slow bus that has no power but the others aren't slow at all.
Most of them are bost extremely slow and are incapable of doing hills.
Driver of 20888 on the 18:58 from walsall and 20:13 from Hayley green needs to have a talking too. Failed to operate full route and running early at timing points. Good job nx run same time .
@Simon Dunn
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 31, 2023, 08:06:05 PMMost of them are bost extremely slow and are incapable of doing hills.
I don't remember them being slow at Claribels. I'd much rather them over a Streetlite.
Quote from: Jack on August 31, 2023, 05:34:57 PMThey aren't they are fast off the mark, 32134 is the a very slow bus that has no power but the others aren't slow at all.
I had a fast one on the 50 once but don't remember which one. All the others have been slow that I have ridden. Maybe i just got unlucky with drivers but for sure 32134 is the slowest one
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on September 02, 2023, 11:34:10 AMI had a fast one on the 50 once but don't remember which one. All the others have been slow that I have ridden. Maybe i just got unlucky with drivers but for sure 32134 is the slowest one
32126 (YJ60 GJF) is a good one that thing is a missile I was training a driver on a route in Stratford last year and it was certainly shifting!
Quote from: hlliwmai on September 02, 2023, 12:18:14 PM32126 (YJ60 GJF) is a good one that thing is a missile I was training a driver on a route in Stratford last year and it was certainly shifting!
They as a whole are a good bunch, 32134 lets them down. The only one I've not caught is 32128.
Was walking up Dudley port about 17:10 this afternoon and an blue electric street deck demo bud was Turing left from Dudley port towards diamond garage , think it was the one NXWM had on loan before
Looking at Bustimes, I suspect, due to the weather, there's been another breakdown on the 326(twice in 2 days!), as 4 buses are tracking, 1 of which is parked in Bloxwich & another has been taken off the 57 & is doing the 1536 326 to Bloxwich.
The other 2 in service.
(Normally 3 buses at this time!)
2 326 Solos currently tracking on Bustimes.
The third, which Im on the 1536 journey from Bilston, isn't!
(Cant get the fleet number though, however if
@Simon Dunn is looking in, re the PM I sent him, my Swiftcard has worked on this vehicle today, so I think the dud ticket machine theory I mentioned, is a definete in my opinion!)
3 x 002's pretty much running in convoy up Quarry Bank high street with only a few cars between including 30706, 40818 & 40820 ? approx 17.45
30925 on the Bloxwich corridor, ticketer machine OOA, no passes able to be scanned, plus its info screen is under the impression its 16th April mid morning around 1130am, when I left the vehicle!
What are peoples opinions on the E200s from Little gem
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on September 27, 2023, 08:44:33 PMWhat are peoples opinions on the E200s from Little gem
honestly they are in a bad state, shoddy regional spec conversion aside the seats are rock hard and rattle really badly (LJ09 KPA especially thing gave me a headache after a few mins), and seem to havent had an interior wash in a while, one of the ex abellio ones even had a seat that was nearly yellow with dirt a massive downgrade from the ex transdev B7RLEs that used to roam the 4H/4
They do seem a bit tired but it's expected from being in London, but they can shift I will give them that. Nice vehicles just shame none have had a refurb.
Streetlite 20161 is broken down on doubke yellows opposite Asda Petrol garage, Merry Hill with no hazards on.
May I make a strong suggestion
@Simon Dunn theres clearly an issue with either A) the drivers on the 4H or B) the timetable. Since nx withdrawal of the route it has been terribly unreliable. I do not understand why this is.
Also re routing the 142 via hasbury as well as the 142A would be beneficial to the people that have lost the link along the hagley road.
Many complaints from round here. We've lost 4 buses an hour and now have a terrible service.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2023, 03:16:53 PMMay I make a strong suggestion @Simon Dunn theres clearly an issue with either A) the drivers on the 4H or B) the timetable. Since nx withdrawal of the route it has been terribly unreliable. I do not understand why this is.
Also re routing the 142 via hasbury as well as the 142A would be beneficial to the people that have lost the link along the hagley road.
Many complaints from round here. We've lost 4 buses an hour and now have a terrible service.
142 / 142a ARE tendered routes, it is TfWM that decide the routes they take.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2023, 03:16:53 PMMay I make a strong suggestion @Simon Dunn theres clearly an issue with either A) the drivers on the 4H or B) the timetable. Since nx withdrawal of the route it has been terribly unreliable. I do not understand why this is.
I waited 40 minutes at Halesowen bus station yesterday for a 4H going towards Walsall. It was not any problem for me but a number of passengers were not too impressed with the new timetable ! And of course as we are loading , another 4H pulled in behind us. There was an announcement over the PA system apologising for certain services running late due to roadworks , I'm not sure if the 4H was mentioned though.
Bramford Lane is closed towards Oldbury so there on diversion in that direction so that's not helping. They have changed stands at West Brom and the 16A at 17.41 used the old stand drove off leaving the waiting passengers behind.
Quote from: Ash on November 08, 2023, 06:06:10 PMBramford Lane is closed towards Oldbury so there on diversion in that direction so that's not helping. They have changed stands at West Brom and the 16A at 17.41 used the old stand drove off leaving the waiting passengers behind.
Driver on the 45 pulled up at the old wrong stop on Tuesday morning (literally opposite to where it is now), didn't believe me when I told him he was in error...
Quote from: uniquicity on November 08, 2023, 06:47:58 PMDriver on the 45 pulled up at the old wrong stop on Tuesday morning (literally opposite to where it is now), didn't believe me when I told him he was in error...
What was the whole point in them swapping and moving stops to start with anyway? Makes sense they serve the same stop.
Why are Streetlites now being allocated instead of ex-little Gems vehicles
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 09, 2023, 07:38:26 AMWhy are Streetlites now being allocated instead of ex-little Gems vehicles
Presume you are on about the 4H?
Id guess a vehicle capacity requirement was added and the e200s didnt fit it
Would rather have lites than those things anyway tbh
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 09, 2023, 07:38:26 AMWhy are Streetlites now being allocated instead of ex-little Gems vehicles
E200 30702 Looks to be based over at Redditch now.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on November 09, 2023, 12:37:28 PME200 30702 Looks to be based over at Redditch now.
It's more likely just a loan, Redditch have been borrowing a number of Tividale & Kidderminster buses the past couple of weeks including 30508, 30707 & 32288
Kidderminster also have Versa 30969
Quote from: winston on November 09, 2023, 01:11:57 PMIt's more likely just a loan, Redditch have been borrowing a number of Tividale & Kidderminster buses the past couple of weeks including 30508, 30707 & 32288
of course Kidderminster got 30707, one of the slowest E200s known to man and it gets used on the country route 145 every day. I caught it on the 145 a week ago and it was 20min late. I bet 30707 operating the service was the sole cause for that
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2023, 03:16:53 PMMay I make a strong suggestion @Simon Dunn theres clearly an issue with either A) the drivers on the 4H or B) the timetable. Since nx withdrawal of the route it has been terribly unreliable. I do not understand why this is.
Also re routing the 142 via hasbury as well as the 142A would be beneficial to the people that have lost the link along the hagley road.
Many complaints from round here. We've lost 4 buses an hour and now have a terrible service.
The 4H corridor was over bussed - the new frequency is aimed at making this work.
The 4H timetable went live on 5th November - I am advised some unplanned roadworks are affecting the time keeping of the service. To help manage this, we have additional vehicles and staff. Should the new timetable not work, the provision will be revised.
Simon
32132 has now got ugly Super X displays. Thought we'd seen the back of these a few years ago.
Quote from: Jack on November 15, 2023, 09:47:58 AM32132 has now got ugly Super X displays. Thought we'd seen the back of these a few years ago.
What's that then?
I assume the 25 and 226 will be following the same diversion as the NXWM routes in Brierley Hill with Mill Street becoming one way temporarily (I.e. running via Venture Way and High Street from Merry Hill) from next week
Quote from: winston on November 09, 2023, 01:11:57 PMIt's more likely just a loan, Redditch have been borrowing a number of Tividale & Kidderminster buses the past couple of weeks
30702 is still working off Redditch ,it has a rear window advert asking for new drivers - with an 0161 phone number. :laugh:
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on November 21, 2023, 02:22:45 PM30702 is still working off Redditch ,it has a rear window advert asking for new drivers - with an 0161 phone number. :laugh:
30826 is at Redditch too.
30712 is still at Kidderminster as well, along with 30969.
30713 is a very cold bus when I was on it this morning I could physically see my breath on it, all windows was closed was not nice.
32326 the lights inside the saloon flicker really bad, this is dangerous incase a epileptic person is on the bus it could potentially send them into a seizure.
There's a lot of mellors in the depot today. Not sure if transfers in or out
Didn't Simon Dunn say that some Mellors are being sent back due to lost contracts
Quote from: Jay71 on December 06, 2023, 09:49:23 PMDidn't Simon Dunn say that some Mellors are being sent back due to lost contracts
One of the drivers I normally speak to on the 326 said the Mellors were going.
I'd like to know if there's any movement on minibus replacement, as those Solos ain't gonna last forever?
3 Mellors have been returned off lease & some others might be going think the ex little gem might off replaced some of the older buses or the Mellors
Quote from: Westy on December 06, 2023, 10:30:12 PMOne of the drivers I normally speak to on the 326 said the Mellors were going.
I'd like to know if there's any movement on minibus replacement, as those Solos ain't gonna last forever?
2 x Mellors 21232 & 21234 have recently transferred from Tividale to Preston for a Pvr increase on LCC 311 & 313 tendered routes.
Also, in the new year once Diamond NW receive their new E200MMC Bee Network fleet, they'll be numerous Solo's, Streetlites, Streetdecks etc available for transfer around the group.
32132 double tracking on bustimes. It was on 76 and the 4 at the same time (it was actually on 76)
30302 managed to break down for around 15 mins right at the junction of newton road and hamstead road causing a long line of traffic in newton road.
Passengers complained at wb to the driver that the same electric centro broke down yesterday (same driver and trip although at sandwell hospital instead) as well and joked that it would happen again which is not a good look for the electric centros tbh
Tividale looks to have recieved a brand new illesbus i-city mercedes minibus BD73 plate, currently looks to be serving the 80 mainly.
20741 (YJ60KBP) on WN57 broken down Graiseley Lane/Frederick Road for around last 45 mins.
Engineers just arrived.
32238 is back at Tividale from DBNW, currently in service on the 002 but not tracking
Travelled on the new 73 plate today. Nice enough bus as to be expected being a Mercedes. Did seem slightly cramped being a 17 seater. It also has seatbelts so I can't see it being used on commercial services much
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 10, 2024, 06:16:21 PMTravelled on the new 73 plate today. Nice enough bus as to be expected being a Mercedes. Did seem slightly cramped being a 17 seater. It also has seatbelts so I can't see it being used on commercial services much
its a demo vehicle on demo hence the seatbelts iirc
@Simon Dunn both the 7:37 ex walsall and 7:57 ex walsall terminated at Halesowen today. Whilst I understand delays are occurring on route leaving people in Hayley green without a bus for an hour is poor decision making. Do drivers have to ask management to cut short routes?
Theres a white and purple streetlite ex Heathrow in tividale depot
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2024, 06:41:20 PM@Simon Dunn both the 7:37 ex walsall and 7:57 ex walsall terminated at Halesowen today. Whilst I understand delays are occurring on route leaving people in Hayley green without a bus for an hour is poor decision making. Do drivers have to ask management to cut short routes?
We have reviewed your comments, and our real time tracking. What happened - shouldn't have happened. We are dealing with this.
There seems to be several comments recently over the Hayley Green section reliability.
Has it got to be serviced by the 4 group of services, or can another route take over that section?
It seems to me that certain routes seem to be operated for operator conveinice rather than reliability.
Back in the Wmpte days, you had 2 routes, one between Walsall & West Bromwich & another between West Brom & Halesowen.
30526. Every few seconds I keep hearing a hissing sound coming from the left side of the bus. Leaking air?
Quote from: Westy on March 01, 2024, 11:47:01 AMThere seems to be several comments recently over the Hayley Green section reliability.
Has it got to be serviced by the 4 group of services, or can another route take over that section?
It seems to me that certain routes seem to be operated for operator conveinice rather than reliability.
Back in the Wmpte days, you had 2 routes, one between Walsall & West Bromwich & another between West Brom & Halesowen.
thats actually a good point, every time I get the 4H from Halesowen towards Walsall it empties out practically
I wonder if you could cover the Hayley Green-Halesowen with a 142/A or 192
just speculation
Quotethats actually a good point, every time I get the 4H from Halesowen towards Walsall it empties out practically
I wonder if you could cover the Hayley Green-Halesowen with a 142/A or 192
just speculation
Or, here's a radical idea, a service 9A which runs as half hourly 9s to Halesowen and then via the loop before heading back to Brum....
Excellent service on the 42 last night.
Quote from: Westy on March 01, 2024, 11:47:01 AMThere seems to be several comments recently over the Hayley Green section reliability.
Has it got to be serviced by the 4 group of services, or can another route take over that section?
It seems to me that certain routes seem to be operated for operator conveinice rather than reliability.
Back in the Wmpte days, you had 2 routes, one between Walsall & West Bromwich & another between West Brom & Halesowen.
NX decided the 4H wasn't Viable anymore maybe TFWM say that Hayley Green is an area that needs a Bus Service you could always run a service from West Bromwich maybe the 3A gets rerouted via or a service from Merry Hill to Halesowen via Hayley Green, it must be a TFWM requirement as NX run the evening service between Halesowen and Hayley Green
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 02, 2024, 03:17:34 PMNX decided the 4H wasn't Viable anymore maybe TFWM say that Hayley Green is an area that needs a Bus Service you could always run a service from West Bromwich maybe the 3A gets rerouted via or a service from Merry Hill to Halesowen via Hayley Green, it must be a TFWM requirement as NX run the evening service between Halesowen and Hayley Green
But reading on here, there always seems to be a problem on this section, with buses finishing early on route.
I know there are roadworks, before someone says, but surely there must be a more reliable way of serving Hayley Green, so we don't get these comments?
Quote from: Jay71 on March 01, 2024, 02:35:10 PM30526. Every few seconds I keep hearing a hissing sound coming from the left side of the bus. Leaking air?
No, it will just be the air system relieving pressure.
It's been mentioned in another thread here, its perfectly normal.
Quote from: Westy on March 02, 2024, 03:26:40 PMBut reading on here, there always seems to be a problem on this section, with buses finishing early on route.
I know there are roadworks, before someone says, but surely there must be a more reliable way of serving Hayley Green, so we don't get these comments?
The 417 was a much better option to the now 4H.
QuoteNX decided the 4H wasn't Viable anymore maybe TFWM say that Hayley Green is an area that needs a Bus Service you could always run a service from West Bromwich maybe the 3A gets rerouted via or a service from Merry Hill to Halesowen via Hayley Green, it must be a TFWM requirement as NX run the evening service between Halesowen and Hayley Green
The 4H NXWM evening service is a tendered service iirc
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 02, 2024, 05:35:56 PMThe 4H NXWM evening service is a tendered service iirc
I thought that was the case Hayley Green is probably a TFWM area which needs a bus service or gets tendered ones
40825 is now at tividale,
Along with 40819
Quote from: Wba_lad on March 06, 2024, 11:06:10 AM40825 is now at tividale,
I saw 40825 while I was waiting for my 95 in the City Centre this evening.
With 20 Bearwood via Brandhall on the destination display. (While actually on a 16A to West Bromwich).
Quote from: 2206 on March 06, 2024, 09:12:53 PMI saw 40825 while I was waiting for my 95 in the City Centre this evening.
With 20 Bearwood via Brandhall on the destination display. (While actually on a 16A to West Bromwich).
I managed to get a rubbish photo this morning. But then got some better photos of it when it came back to West Brom before going back to depot.
32260 and 32261 have returned from Manchester
Quote from: B7RLE on March 06, 2024, 11:11:43 PM32260 and 32261 have returned from Manchester
They're not for Tividale, they're going to Kidderminster depot
Noting the comments in the Simon Dunn thread, about drivers missing stops etc & quite rightly being pulled up about it, but we never hear WHY they do it?
We don't need to know names & addresses etc, just why they made the decision that prompted the complaint!
Quote from: Westy on March 07, 2024, 06:02:00 PMNoting the comments in the Simon Dunn thread, about drivers missing stops etc & quite rightly being pulled up about it, but we never hear WHY they do it?
We don't need to know names & addresses etc, just why they made the decision that prompted the complaint!
So you expect a company to post the results of an interview in the disciplinary procedure on a public forum?
How would you like any interview with your manager posted in public.
Quote from: Tony on March 07, 2024, 06:35:44 PMSo you expect a company to post the results of an interview in the disciplinary procedure on a public forum?
How would you like any interview with your manager posted in public.
Just intrigued why the driver(s) did the deed in the first place, as there seems to be a few mentions in the thread. They must have had a reason in the first place.
There seems to be too many, in my opinion.
Not interested in the results of the disciplinary, as I know that's confidential.
Quote from: Westy on March 07, 2024, 07:26:06 PMJust intrigued why the driver(s) did the deed in the first place, as there seems to be a few mentions in the thread. They must have had a reason in the first place.
There seems to be too many, in my opinion.
Not interested in the results of the disciplinary, as I know that's confidential.
So you are still asking what was said in a private meeting?
Quote from: winston on March 07, 2024, 12:49:13 AMThey're not for Tividale, they're going to Kidderminster depot
Change of plan:
20918, 20921, 32236, 32260, 32261 will be transferred to Tividale tommorrow.
To be joined by 40714, 40840 & 40843 after working the MUFC after 5pm
32260 is at Burton saw a post on midland classic page saying it's arrived there
Quote from: Solo1 on March 10, 2024, 11:00:33 PM32260 is at Burton saw a post on midland classic page saying it's arrived there
Looking at FB, 32260 has arrived at Burton, but apparently it is only on loan for a day or so, but will ultimately transfer to Tividale.
Burton are due to receive ex Johnson E200's from Kidderminster later this week.
Quote from: winston on March 10, 2024, 11:42:03 PMLooking at FB, 32260 has arrived at Burton, but apparently it is only on loan for a day or so, but will ultimately transfer to Tividale.
Burton are due to receive ex Johnson E200's from Kidderminster later this week.
Ok
Any ideas if 20165 retuned to depot, it left West Bromwich not in service after coming in ontime on the 4 service.
One of the metrodeckers is in depot.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 20, 2024, 12:37:05 PMOne of the metrodeckers is in depot.
Most likely 40844, that hasn't tracked since 14th Feb.
New electric buses on order for the 4H and 45 according to website
Quote from: Ash on March 20, 2024, 02:08:31 PMNew electric buses on order for the 4H and 45 according to website
They're not on order, they've only submitted bids for Zebra2 funding at this stage, as per the news article:
https://www.rotala.uk/news/rotala-plans-significant-investment-in-carbon-reduction-technologies.html
Quote from: winston on March 20, 2024, 01:54:40 PMMost likely 40844, that hasn't tracked since 14th Feb.
I saw one in there on the back of a tow truck earlier in the week
20921 on the 326 today!
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2024, 04:05:11 PM20921 on the 326 today!
An Optare Solo on route that frequently has Optare Solos on it.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 25, 2024, 09:55:41 PMAn Optare Solo on route that frequently has Optare Solos on it.
But one of the later Solos transferred down, as we normally get the older ones, which pleased the driver, apart from occasionally losing the gears, which has been reported, I gather.
Is it possible to have regular optare solos on the A15 route or is it just too much of a hassle, i know we already get frequently solo srs but theres just something I like about regular optare solos
Quote from: Dababa015 on March 29, 2024, 06:54:23 AMIs it possible to have regular optare solos on the A15 route or is it just too much of a hassle, i know we already get frequently solo srs but theres just something I like about regular optare solos
Depends upon the terms of the contract. Some (such as Diamond's 25 in Stourbridge) specifically state what type or size of vehicle can be used.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 29, 2024, 11:18:03 AMDepends upon the terms of the contract. Some (such as Diamond's 25 in Stourbridge) specifically state what type or size of vehicle can be used.
I don't know of any contracts that specify the type of vehicle, only the seating capacity and the euro rating.
Quote from: Dababa015 on March 29, 2024, 06:54:23 AMIs it possible to have regular optare solos on the A15 route or is it just too much of a hassle, i know we already get frequently solo srs but theres just something I like about regular optare solos
The A15 is ran from Redditch depot not Tividale.
20885 is based at Redditch and according to gov.uk euro 6 and CAZ compliant. But thats the only one they seem to have.
According to bus times it spend most of its time on the 62.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 20, 2024, 12:37:05 PMOne of the metrodeckers is in depot.
It's 40844 it was brought in on the back of the diamond tow truck.
Diamond have their own tow truck, that unusual this day and age.
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2024, 11:42:43 AMI don't know of any contracts that specify the type of vehicle, only the seating capacity and the euro rating.
Yes I realise that the Diamond 25 contract only specifies capacity and emissions but I was being more general. I realise in hindsight my comment wasn't clear about that.
Quote from: Mayfield on April 01, 2024, 09:11:02 PMDiamond have their own tow truck, that unusual this day and age.
Yeah they do, I'm not sure if they have 2 but they definitely have one, if I knew how to attach a photo I'd put the photo in as I've got a few photos of it.
Quote from: Wba_lad on April 02, 2024, 11:06:51 AMYeah they do, I'm not sure if they have 2 but they definitely have one, if I knew how to attach a photo I'd put the photo in as I've got a few photos of it.
There's an 'Insert an image' option, next to the You Tube logo.
Quote from: Jay71 on April 03, 2024, 08:41:50 PMTonight. Can you explain why 20886 didn't leave Upper Dean St at 2030. I know that the bus arrived at Upper Dean St at about 2037.
@Jay71 how on earth do you expect a bus to depart on time when it is running late?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-20886
Quote from: Stu on April 03, 2024, 08:51:36 PM@Jay71 how on earth do you expect a bus to depart on time when it is running late?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-20886
That's got to be the daftest question yet!
Quote from: Stu on April 03, 2024, 08:51:36 PM@Jay71 how on earth do you expect a bus to depart on time when it is running late?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-20886
Isn't this the same person who moans about the 42 in the evenings running late? I'm assuming they are arriving late hence why they leave late but where's the logic there...
He probably means does anyone know why it was late turning up for the 8.30 departure to be fair
That Veichle looking at the tracking was late leaving Dudley on it's last Journey on the 74A. Dudley is gonna be congested due to the Tram Works and other Road works. All you need to do is use the Bustimes map to figure out why it may be late
Quote from: Stu on April 03, 2024, 08:51:36 PM@Jay71 how on earth do you expect a bus to depart on time when it is running late?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-20886
Quote from: Stu on April 03, 2024, 08:51:36 PM@Jay71 how on earth do you expect a bus to depart on time when it is running late?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-20886
The bus was taken out of service. Why was it taken out of service
Quote from: Jay71 on April 04, 2024, 07:24:10 AMThe bus was taken out of service. Why was it taken out of service
20886 wasn't taken out of service, it stayed out on the 16A until the end of the service.
Quote from: winston on April 04, 2024, 10:06:53 AM20886 wasn't taken out of service, it stayed out on the 16A until the end of the service.
Are you saying that I need to get new glasses???
The bus unloaded by the 35 stop. Then went past the 16a stop with Sorry, not in service on the destination board
Quote from: Jay71 on April 04, 2024, 10:54:26 AMAre you saying that I need to get new glasses???
The bus unloaded by the 35 stop. Then went past the 16a stop with Sorry, not in service on the destination board
No, I'm going off tracking data only. The above statement is also different to what you said in Simon's thread.
Do you only come on here to moan & complain??
Quote from: winston on April 04, 2024, 11:11:28 AMNo, I'm going off tracking data only. The above statement is also different to what you said in Simon's thread.
Do you only come on here to moan & complain??
If a company chooses to run a dire/shambolic then I will moan & complain about it.
Last week I complimented Travel Express. I see that you've chosen to ignore that comment.
Quote from: Jay71 on April 04, 2024, 11:22:21 AMIf a company chooses to run a dire/shambolic then I will moan & complain about it.
Last week I complimented Travel Express. I see that you've chosen to ignore that comment.
Do your moaning / complaining via the official company channels then, instead of keep using an enthusiast's forum.
I've not chosen to ignore anything, I don't read everyone's posts / all of the time / in all threads, it's based on the majority of your posts.
Quote from: winston on April 04, 2024, 01:17:34 PMDo your moaning / complaining via the official company channels then, instead of keep using an enthusiast's forum.
I've not chosen to ignore anything, I don't read everyone's posts / all of the time / in all threads, it's based on the majority of your posts.
I don't see you saying that to people who moan about Chaserider on a daily basis
Quote from: Jay71 on April 04, 2024, 01:29:57 PMI don't see you saying that to people who moan about Chaserider on a daily basis
They aren't complaining about specific drivers to Rotala Group CEO as you do.
20886 could of been running late on the 16A as it would of had a driver change as the 74A and 16A are on separate rotas. 20886 might of gone back to garage to fuel and swap drivers.
Been told by my other WB based sister, that another Diamond vehicle has taken a wrong turn into Bratt Street, she only noticing when hearing the reversing beep.
Double decker apparantly.
How come 4 of ex little gem enviros have been withdrawn
Quote from: Solo1 on April 10, 2024, 07:31:17 AMHow come 4 of ex little gem enviros have been withdrawn
Because they were only acquired for short term cover, the Euro 6 vehicles they were covering for have since been returned from Manchester.
Quote from: winston on April 10, 2024, 10:51:45 AMBecause they were only acquired for short term cover, the Euro 6 vehicles they were covering for have since been returned from Manchester.
Ok thanks do u know where they are going
Quote from: Solo1 on April 10, 2024, 01:06:13 PMOk thanks do u know where they are going
To become coke cans most likely
Quote from: winston on April 10, 2024, 01:49:40 PMTo become coke cans most likely
Are they that 'bad condition' ?
Surprised, if they're Enviros!
Quote from: Westy on April 10, 2024, 02:11:51 PMAre they that 'bad condition' ?
Surprised, if they're Enviros!
If they're the ones I think they are,they're battle scarred.
Will the MCV Evolution buses be withdrawn?
Quote from: Jay71 on April 10, 2024, 08:27:06 PMWill the MCV Evolution buses be withdrawn?
ones gone to burton so the rest might follow
Quote from: EK40 on April 10, 2024, 08:56:52 PMones gone to burton so the rest might follow
One was on the 42 today
Quote from: Jay71 on April 10, 2024, 08:27:06 PMWill the MCV Evolution buses be withdrawn?
I doubt it, they are younger and in fairly good condition. Got some time yet I'd say.
Shocking service provided today. The last 4H of the night has failed to operate. Driver probably cba to finish route...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 13, 2024, 08:02:44 PMShocking service provided today. The last 4H of the night has failed to operate. Driver probably cba to finish route...
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/west-midlands-bus-passenger-s-charter/west-midlands-bus-passenger-s-charter/#your-bus-journeys
If you needed to catch it, go claim. Diamond are a signatory to it.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 13, 2024, 08:02:44 PMShocking service provided today. The last 4H of the night has failed to operate. Driver probably cba to finish route...
The last 4H being the 19.58 at Mendip Road?
Looks as though it was 8 mins late at Halesowen & turned back there:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-32318?date=2024-04-13
Quote from: winston on April 14, 2024, 12:42:28 AMThe last 4H being the 19.58 at Mendip Road?
Looks as though it was 8 mins late at Halesowen & turned back there:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-32318?date=2024-04-13
Yes that one. It arrived into Halesowen ontime. Must have sat at the bottom probably having a cigarette and then decided to go back to oldbury leaving Halesowen 8 mins early. I bet it didn't even have 4H on the destination blinds the whole way back to oldbury
Is there a list anywhere of what services Tividale depot operate I've just applied for a job and wandered what routes they run
QuoteIs there a list anywhere of what services Tividale depot operate I've just applied for a job and wandered what routes they run
Apart from most of the Stourbridge area routes*, the 50 and 150, the Solihull network (i think) and a couple of others, Tividale run the routes that serve Birmingham and the Black Country.
* 1 bus of the 4 on the 25 Dudley to Stourbridge is ran from Tividale, the other 3 are Kiddy duties
Quote from: Jack D on April 15, 2024, 12:23:09 PMIs there a list anywhere of what services Tividale depot operate I've just applied for a job and wandered what routes they run
16A
96
4/4H
50 (2 duties only)
42
40
31
32
81
18
17
45
226/226A
30
74A
61
54/54A
There's a few more also but that's pretty much it when I worked there anyway.
Quote from: Lukeee on April 15, 2024, 02:21:11 PM16A
96
4/4H
50 (2 duties only)
42
40
31
32
81
18
17
45
226/226A
30
74A
61
54/54A
There's a few more also but that's pretty much it when I worked there anyway.
27/27A, 310, they don't do the 4 they do the 64, 41A, 17, 002 I think and 54/54A
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 15, 2024, 08:01:46 PM27/27A, 310, they don't do the 4 they do the 64, 41A, 17, 002 I think and 54/54A
The 4 is run by Tividale as 30120 ran on it today which is a Tividale vehicle
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 15, 2024, 08:01:46 PM27/27A, 310, they don't do the 4 they do the 64, 41A, 17, 002 I think and 54/54A
They do still have one working on the 4:
https://bustimes.org/services/4-walsall-blackheath/vehicles
Is the Tamworth outstation still open? If so, what routes does it operate
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 15, 2024, 08:21:15 PMIs the Tamworth outstation still open? If so, what routes does it operate
20, 76/A/B.
20 21 66 23 Bilston 229 223 224 231 326
22, 80 Moxley - Bilston, 26A, 530 Evenings, 57, 229, 82 Evenings, 31/32, 42 and they did run the 41 of a Sunday Evening as well as the Walsall 36 and they did run the 97 for some journeys. The latter three not sure if they do run anymore
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 16, 2024, 11:49:53 AM22, 80 Moxley - Bilston, 26A, 530 Evenings, 57, 229, 82 Evenings, 31/32, 42 and they did run the 41 of a Sunday Evening as well as the Walsall 36 and they did run the 97 for some journeys. The latter three not sure if they do run anymore
Deffo not the 36 & 41 nowadays.
Quote from: Lukeee on April 15, 2024, 02:21:11 PM16A
96
4/4H
50 (2 duties only)
42
40
31
32
81
82
18
17
45
226/226A
30
74A
61
54/54A
There's a few more also but that's pretty much it when I worked there anyway.
Tividale also oporate the 82.
20053, working the 61 but I don't think bus has 61 programmed into the destination blinds as was running with Diamond midlands on the blinds.
Quote from: 900 on May 02, 2024, 06:08:58 PMDoes anyone know when/if the demo is due back out?
I'm not too sure, I know it had a window smashed which prevented it from going on the road, it came out on Tuesday on the 50 again, but not too sure if it did a full day in service or not. It would be nice to see it on other routes and not just the 50, it would be nice to put it on the 16A and maybe the 002.
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 02, 2024, 10:18:03 PMI'm not too sure, I know it had a window smashed which prevented it from going on the road, it came out on Tuesday on the 50 again, but not too sure if it did a full day in service or not. It would be nice to see it on other routes and not just the 50, it would be nice to put it on the 16A and maybe the 002.
It will soon be time for the demo bus to go back home. Just remember one thing, Diamond have only got the bus for a month
Quote from: Jay71 on May 03, 2024, 07:33:42 AMIt will soon be time for the demo bus to go back home. Just remember one thing, Diamond have only got the bus for a month
Yes I'm well aware diamond only have it for a month.
Quote from: Jay71 on May 03, 2024, 07:33:42 AMIt will soon be time for the demo bus to go back home. Just remember one thing, Diamond have only got the bus for a month
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 02, 2024, 10:18:03 PMI'm not too sure, I know it had a window smashed which prevented it from going on the road, it came out on Tuesday on the 50 again, but not too sure if it did a full day in service or not. It would be nice to see it on other routes and not just the 50, it would be nice to put it on the 16A and maybe the 002.
In order to drive the bus, drivers will need to be type trained, to use it on 50, 16A and 002 will mean training drivers across 3 rotas.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 03, 2024, 07:58:07 PMIn order to drive the bus, drivers will need to be type trained, to use it on 50, 16A and 002 will mean training drivers across 3 rotas.
Yes but wouldn't it be easier to type train one garage than a route which shares drivers from both tividale and redditch garage.
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 03, 2024, 10:40:55 PMYes but wouldn't it be easier to type train one garage than a route which shares drivers from both tividale and redditch garage.
No as redditch drivers don't drive tividale buses and vice versa
It's on rail replacement the demo bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 04, 2024, 04:12:12 PMIt's on rail replacement the demo bus
There's been a number of people on Bustimes first trying to remove it from the Diamond fleetlist stating it has been de-roofed under a low bridge, then trying to amend it to open top, the latest one is user by the name of KarlTotney123
Quote from: winston on May 04, 2024, 04:47:25 PMThere's been a number of people on Bustimes first trying to remove it from the Diamond fleetlist stating it has been de-roofed under a low bridge, then trying to amend it to open top, the latest one is user by the name of KarlTotney123
Not me nothing to do with me
Quote from: karl724223 on May 04, 2024, 05:01:50 PMNot me nothing to do with me
Everyone on here knows its not you mate. They also tried to say that 1951 was being painted in grey in memory of Tony Hunter. This time another user but evidently the same person as it was the same time. Obviously idiots with nothing better to do and have absolutely no life whatsoever.
Quote from: winston on May 04, 2024, 04:47:25 PMThere's been a number of people on Bustimes first trying to remove it from the Diamond fleetlist stating it has been de-roofed under a low bridge, then trying to amend it to open top, the latest one is user by the name of KarlTotney123
wish they'd find something better too do
Quote from: karl724223 on May 04, 2024, 05:01:50 PMNot me nothing to do with me
Did it say it was.... but someone is using your name as their username & also trying to remove NXWM buses from bustimes fleetlist
They've also been a member for sometime:
https://bustimes.org/accounts/users/1975/
Quote from: karl724223 on May 04, 2024, 05:01:50 PMNot me nothing to do with me
I think you may have been hacked or someone pretending to be you
Rotala have today agreed to purchase the following used buses from Close Leasing:
32295 SN65OLW DF Wright Streetlite Diamler Euro 6 x 10.8m
32296 SK68TXN DF Wright Streetlite Diamler Euro 6 x 11.5m
32296 has been on loan to Diamond previously to cover Wrightbus Warranty work:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/51822769585
Both are for Tividale.
Quote from: winston on May 13, 2024, 10:30:33 PMRotala have today agreed to purchase the following used buses from Close Leasing:
32295 SN65OLW DF Wright Streetlite Diamler Euro 6 x 10.8m
32296 SK68TXN DF Wright Streetlite Diamler Euro 6 x 11.5m
32296 has been on loan to Diamond previously to cover Wrightbus Warranty work:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/51822769585
Both are for Tividale.
Yeah I seen 32296 in stone cross last night was suprised I did think what it was when I looked on bus times and seen the reg I thought I'm pretty sure that was on a warranty loan before.
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 15, 2024, 10:32:24 AMYeah I seen 32296 in stone cross last night was suprised I did think what it was when I looked on bus times and seen the reg I thought I'm pretty sure that was on a warranty loan before.
It seems they've been rushed in to service, they were only acquired Monday this week.
It was on loan for Warranty Cover via Wrightbus last time, there is a picture in my original post you quoted
Quote from: winston on May 15, 2024, 01:52:31 PMIt seems they've been rushed in to service, they were only acquired Monday this week.
It was on loan for Warranty Cover via Wrightbus last time, there is a picture in my original post you quoted
Yeah I know I do have a photo of it somewhere along with the other one which was also on WrightBus warranty loan.
SN68 AGW collided with a pole in West Brom today causing damage to the front of the vehicle.
20057 blinds not working yesterday
20737 on Livery Street/Colmore Row on the 16A past the front of Snow Hill Station at about 18:35 this evening.
Slightly off route as well.
Would it ever be possible to have one of the 2009 Enviro 200s on the A15 route or is it strictly certain types of vehicles?
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on June 04, 2024, 12:54:31 PMWould it ever be possible to have one of the 2009 Enviro 200s on the A15 route or is it strictly certain types of vehicles?
Well the A15 is ran from Redditch and those E200's are at Tividale.
Ohh my bad sorry
QuoteWell the A15 is ran from Redditch and those E200's are at Tividale.
We had one of them on loan for a bit, can't remeber of the top of my head which one it was though. Never ended up on any solihull services though.
I know it would be impossible but I would love to see my favourite buses in the fleet like the wright eclipse urbans and the plaxton centros on the A15
Rotala have today acquired 20192 SK16GYA WF Streetlite 8.8m, Daimler Euro 6 engine for Tividale.
Timetables for new services 63/64/65 and 303 now available via PDF from website.
32297 is out on the 4H it is tracking on two routes so it is not on the 18, possible the new wheel front streetlite on the 18?
Quote from: Simon Dunn on June 14, 2024, 05:55:29 AMI would imagine we will use either a Mellor or a Illesbus on 303.
I understand the 65 goes through a bridge, and this will need to be either a Solo or a Small Enviro.
63/64 there is no specific allocation.
Although there ment to be one at diamond tividale but the WF streetlites also fit under the bridge at Fordhouses
https://flic.kr/p/Uf28kV 20975 when diamond first started the 65 at Fordhouses
The 63/64/65 with Diamond were operated with almost every type of vehicle including WF Streetlites, Solos and Solo SRs, Darts (including those acquired with Arriva's Wednesfield operations) and horrible Plaxton Primos.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on June 14, 2024, 12:39:21 PMThe 63/64/65 with Diamond were operated with almost every type of vehicle including WF Streetlites, Solos and Solo SRs, Darts (including those acquired with Arriva's Wednesfield operations) and horrible Plaxton Primos.
The 63 64 65 never saw the primos they were used on different routes...
Quote from: 900 on June 14, 2024, 01:06:49 PMThe 63 64 65 never saw the primos they were used on different routes...
I beg to differ. I used the 64 regularly and they did appear on there although it was only after one of the regular Solos had broken down (again).
The 21:45, 45 to Walsall of West Bromwich left 1 min early off meaning some people may of missed the bus due to his early departure.
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 04, 2024, 09:45:39 PMThe 21:45, 45 to Walsall of West Bromwich left 1 min early off meaning some people may of missed the bus due to his early departure.
Even DVSA allow the 1 minute early rule due to inaccuracies in time pieces. So was it early on the driver's ticket machine?
Quote from: Tony on July 04, 2024, 09:55:33 PMEven DVSA allow the 1 minute early rule due to inaccuracies in time pieces. So was it early on the driver's ticket machine?
Ah I didn't know about 1 min early I thought it was 30 seconds early this driver left the stand just as it tuned 44 mins past, even shows on bustimes as left at 44 mins past I means it's no big deal just some passengers may of missed it and the 45 is a hourly service,
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 05, 2024, 10:18:30 AMAh I didn't know about 1 min early I thought it was 30 seconds early this driver left the stand just as it tuned 44 mins past, even shows on bustimes as left at 44 mins past I means it's no big deal just some passengers may of missed it and the 45 is a hourly service,
Really 1 minutes that isn't that bad why would you grass a driver up for a minute
Over a minute is understandable
A service that departs 1 minute before or 5 minutes after its scheduled departure is deemed to be "on time."
So it was on time.
Bit shady trying to get a driver in trouble for a minute... have people got nothing better to do with there time... feel like this and the Simon Dunn Q&A are just becoming grounds to telling tails, getting drivers Into trouble and keeping Diamonds HR and union department busy 'sighs'
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 04, 2024, 09:45:39 PMThe 21:45, 45 to Walsall of West Bromwich left 1 min early off meaning some people may of missed the bus due to his early departure.
You need to get a life, I'm pretty sure nobody is going to turn up to catch a bus at exactly the time of departure, if they did it would then probably delay the departure, but on the positive side it would then give you something else to Moan about.
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 04, 2024, 09:45:39 PMThe 21:45, 45 to Walsall of West Bromwich left 1 min early off meaning some people may of missed the bus due to his early departure.
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 05, 2024, 10:18:30 AMAh I didn't know about 1 min early I thought it was 30 seconds early this driver left the stand just as it tuned 44 mins past, even shows on bustimes as left at 44 mins past I means it's no big deal just some passengers may of missed it and the 45 is a hourly service,
Passengers waiting for an hourly service would have been at the stop in good time to ensure they didn't miss it.
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 05, 2024, 01:06:34 PMReally 1 minutes that isn't that bad why would you grass a driver up for a minute
Over a minute is understandable
Maybe he gets a bonus point or goes to top of the class for grassing drivers up
Last night I was sitting behind 40832 in colmore row and it ran red light nearly hitting car
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 10, 2024, 02:22:42 PMLast night I was sitting behind 40832 in colmore row and it ran red light nearly hitting car
If you're going to continue to grass on drivers, at least post it in the right thread....
QuoteIf you're going to continue to grass on drivers, at least post it in the right thread....
Or better still do it through official channels not an enthusiast forum. The constant complaints from a few members are getting boring now, and publicly stating them is quite inappropriate
Why don't all these idiots that are making claims against driving staff post them under there real name
Quote from: karl724223 on July 10, 2024, 05:32:02 PMWhy don't all these idiots that are making claims against driving staff post them under there real name
More too the point why do they insist on airing there complaints on a public forum and not go down the proper channels, I've found when investigating complaints (I must stress not in the transport industy) 9 times out of the the complainee has normally embellished the truth to make it sound worse than it is or plain lied... which is a shame because the stress and anxiety caused by an investigation can be detrimental to a person's mental health, even when they are innocent, it seriously baffles me why some people think it's OK to mess with Someone's livelihood, if a driver lost his job over some of the salacious comments found on here that could be the difference between him paying the mortgage, feeding there kids and being able to get by...
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 10, 2024, 02:22:42 PMLast night I was sitting behind 40832 in colmore row and it ran red light nearly hitting car
Please tell me what time this happened, where exactly you were and what you saw in detail.
That vehicle was on the 16A yesterday, which doesn't go along Colmore Row.
If you can't, then I will assume you are lying, and we don't take kindly to liars on this forum.
Quote from: Stu on July 10, 2024, 07:04:08 PMThat vehicle was on the 16A yesterday, which doesn't go along Colmore Row.
It looks like there must have been a diversion on last night
Vehicles – 16 - Birmingham - Hockley - Handsworth Wood - Hamstead - Great Barr – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/16-birmingham-hamstead-via-hockley-2/vehicles?date=2024-07-09#journeys/602945747)
https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1810569618714513690
Quote from: 2206 on July 10, 2024, 07:54:56 PMIt looks like there must have been a diversion on last night
Vehicles – 16 - Birmingham - Hockley - Handsworth Wood - Hamstead - Great Barr – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/16-birmingham-hamstead-via-hockley-2/vehicles?date=2024-07-09#journeys/602945747)
https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1810569618714513690
That's nice, but the vehicle in question did its last journey out of city centre at 5:20pm, and the accusation is about a Diamond bus, not NX.
Quote from: Stu on July 10, 2024, 07:04:08 PMPlease tell me what time this happened, where exactly you were and what you saw in detail.
That vehicle was on the 16A yesterday, which doesn't go along Colmore Row.
If you can't, then I will assume you are lying, and we don't take kindly to liars on this forum.
So he was on colmore row about 22.10 and he was turning right into Margaret St he went through on red
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 10, 2024, 09:23:20 PMSo he was on colmore row about 22.10 and he was turning right into Margaret St he went through on red
Your missing the main point, 40832 didn't track after 17:20:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gtri-40832
Quote from: winston on July 10, 2024, 09:40:12 PMYour missing the main point, 40832 didn't track after 17:20:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/gtri-40832
Yesterday night
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 10, 2024, 10:03:19 PMYesterday night
I'll give you that one.
However, now we know who you really are hiding as a new member, if you step out of line, you will be removed from the forum permanently without warning.
The Admin team are tired of all the recent baiting & bickering from the select few 'long standing members' that think they have the right to moderate the forum....
Quote from: winston on July 11, 2024, 09:54:56 AMI'll give you that one.
However, now we know who you really are hiding as a new member, if you step out of line, you will be removed from the forum permanently without warning.
The Admin team are tired of all the recent baiting & bickering from the select few 'long standing members' that think they have the right to moderate the forum....
Okay
Being rude to the admins for giving you are warning isn't very kind. They are being nice at least they didn't just kick you off. And before admins have a go at me I was actually defending you after what he said.
Quote from: cris 99 on July 11, 2024, 02:07:27 PMBeing rude to the admins for giving you are warning isn't very kind. They are being nice at least they didn't just kick you off. And before admins have a go at me I was actually defending you after what he said.
What did he say? Has it since being edited to Okay?
Yes
Quote from: cris 99 on July 11, 2024, 02:59:05 PMYes
Funnysnow18 aka previously banned member 18WilliamsLi has got banned for his comments to my post above, which fortunately we're screenshotted & reported prior to being edited to 'okay'
Anyone know what the 2 yellowish orange Streetlites are that are in tividale depot I seen them today.
I believe it's some streetlite that have been purchased, see diamond discussion thread for details
Winston mentioned that Diamond/Rotala have purchased some former Transdev buses
Hi,
i was on the 66 today (stone cross to west bromwich) and i've noticed they're now using the new sprinters on there. these just do not work for the route, they're too small to balance both the usual elderly 66 passengers and the new influx of 45 passengers. I feel the only suitable bus now for this route is optares, they do fit around the route and work perfectly, the sprinters are an awful choice to deal with things such as shopping trollies, wheelchairs and pushchairs due to their minimal space, it can't go on long with those because the complaints from passengers are now flying in.
Thank you
That is also kind of a problem for the A15, the pushchairs that use it after school have a hard time getting on the bus and there's just not enough seats. At least that's what I've been hearing from passengers.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on August 08, 2024, 06:09:37 AMThat is also kind of a problem for the A15, the pushchairs that use it after school have a hard time getting on the bus and there's just not enough seats. At least that's what I've been hearing from passengers.
These new buses are horrible little buses. Went on one yesterday on the 303. I'll be avoiding these horrible little buses
BTW, can someone tell me one good thing about these buses?
Not much tbh, aswell as having little capacity, they are also very bouncy which is so annoying as a passenger.
Quote from: Jay71 on August 08, 2024, 10:31:55 AMThese new buses are horrible little buses. Went on one yesterday on the 303. I'll be avoiding these horrible little buses
BTW, can someone tell me one good thing about these buses?
I imagine their cheap to buy/lease and good fuel consumption on tendered routes
These new vehicles are rapid however. And are finished too a good standard. They will work on some routes I'm sure.
Quote from: Jay71 on August 08, 2024, 10:31:55 AMThese new buses are horrible little buses. Went on one yesterday on the 303. I'll be avoiding these horrible little buses
BTW, can someone tell me one good thing about these buses?
Air con and fully opening drivers window the mellors are too hot in the summer.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 09, 2024, 04:11:07 PMThese new vehicles are rapid however. And are finished too a good standard. They will work on some routes I'm sure.
They are fast that is a good point, but the constant bouncing around on the bus is the worst part about them. Other than that I don't mind them too much.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on August 09, 2024, 05:28:39 PMThey are fast that is a good point, but the constant bouncing around on the bus is the worst part about them. Other than that I don't mind them too much.
I don't like that most passengers have to climb steps to get to the main seating area as there is only one seat for less abled passengers when the wheelchair space is in use. While they may be ok on lightly used routes or where narrow roads are used but they are in my opinion totally unsuitable for the 303 in Willenhall say.
What was on 303 as bus bus tracking on tracker was on 64 in west brom
Quote from: Solo1 on August 12, 2024, 03:12:32 PMWhat was on 303 as bus bus tracking on tracker was on 64
15006 was on the 303. It does the last two journeys on the WN 64 plus 1650 on WN 63.
Guys ignore bus times at the moment Karl totney is logging random buses as withdrawn and saying they have crashed, not too sure if it's actually Karl totney or not. 40829 had a crash but it is NOT withdrawn. And 15007 definitely has not had a crash and is not withdrawn when it is currently out in service now.
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 21, 2024, 11:38:45 AMGuys ignore bus times at the moment Karl totney is logging random buses as withdrawn and saying they have crashed, not too sure if it's actually Karl totney or not. 40829 had a crash but it is NOT withdrawn. And 15007 definitely has not had a crash and is not withdrawn when it is currently out in service now.
Definitely not the Karl Totney on here
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2024, 01:25:14 PMDefinitely not the Karl Totney on here
I didn't think it would be, it's clearly somone mucking about. Using Karl's name.
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 21, 2024, 01:34:14 PMI didn't think it would be, it's clearly somone mucking about. Using Karl's name.
Wonder if it's the poison dwarf
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 21, 2024, 01:34:14 PMI didn't think it would be, it's clearly somone mucking about. Using Karl's name.
Have you reported this to BusTimes?
Quote from: Stu on August 21, 2024, 07:15:47 PMHave you reported this to BusTimes?
I sent them a email to there address but they don't reply
one of the 4H buses has had its rear ripped off by a Dudley Council Car right as it left the stand in Halesowen Bus Station just now
Quote from: OH25 on August 22, 2024, 04:32:30 PMone of the 4H buses has had its rear ripped off by a Dudley Council Car right as it left the stand in Halesowen Bus Station just now
Would appear to be 32232 (SN68AHS)
Quote from: OH25 on August 22, 2024, 04:32:30 PMone of the 4H buses has had its rear ripped off by a Dudley Council Car right as it left the stand in Halesowen Bus Station just now
The Dudley Council Fiesta is still where the accident happened as of 20 mins ago, with front nearside smashed up / front hanging off
20533 not tracking on the 326.
30827 not tracking on 42
20921 not tracking on the 326.
When were Diamond drivers made aware of the Walsall situation this morning?
I know, from talking to a driver in the past, they have some messaging system on the ticket machine.
The driver didnt appear to be aware at first, as he crossed Leamore traffic lights & a passenger informed him of the problem, plus he spoke to a Nx driver coming the other way as well, so he ended up turning around at Broadstone Avenue(May Street in TfWm language!) and heading towards Leamore Lane & Green Lane instead.
(He didnt appear to know the alternative route, as he asked which way. I asked him, 'You're not from round here, are you?)
30925 isn't tracking on service 42
32297 is now in the brighter diamond livery, I bave uploaded a photo in the diamond Facebook group for anyone who wants to see it just as it came back into depot last night.
Change to service 229 from 13th October 2024
To mitigate against delays caused by roadworks, service 229 has been split into two services Mon-Sat daytimes:
229 Bilston - Sedgley
230 Sedgley - Dudley via Tipton
Evening and Sunday journeys will operate as service 229A between Bilston and Dudley as per the previous times and route.
A through single ticket is available for passengers wishing to use both the 229 & 230., currently £2.
32296 has now gone for paint. Not yet painted its still away for paint before people rush to edit it on bustimes.
A new sprinter arrived at tividale yesterday reg plate WN74 XVJ.
Due to the ending of roadworks on the route, Diamond service 229 will resume its previous timetable from 11th November. Service 229A & 230 will be withdrawn.
40832 is not a fun bus to ride on let's say that, becoming less of a fan of diamonds street decks recently but I do appreciate the charging on board.
One of the brand new ilesbus sprinters are at euro bus expo, from what I was told we will have it straight after the show on Thursday.
Antisocial behaviour, kids throwing stuff deliberately at the buses windows on William harper road. Driver says it's always the same kids doing it. YJ59 PKE hit by something nearly broke the window
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 16, 2024, 04:04:43 PMAntisocial behaviour, kids throwing stuff deliberately at the buses windows on William harper road. Driver says it's always the same kids doing it. YJ59 PKE hit by something nearly broke the window
Must admit I was having a brief chat with one of the drivers the other day on the 326, who also do the 57, and they showed me some pics of the Solo they were driving with a couple of windows smashed!
For anyone wondering 40818 has now transferred to redditch and 40725 has been transferred to tividale, there is a reason behind it which you will find out.
Can't wait, live won't be worth living until I find out why
According to a Facebook video, diamond has a (or some) ADL 200 MMC short wheel base due soon for west Midlands
Quote from: BK63 YWP on December 06, 2024, 06:13:14 PMAccording to a Facebook video, diamond has a (or some) ADL 200 MMC short wheel base due soon for west Midlands
Ex Moffatt & Williamson
Quote from: BK63 YWP on December 06, 2024, 06:13:14 PMAccording to a Facebook video, diamond has a (or some) ADL 200 MMC short wheel base due soon for west Midlands
Yes we do. I got a photo of it in depot last night before having to move it around to engineering so we could park rest of buses up it wad a loverly photo and nice to see a enviro 200mmc join the fleet.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 06, 2024, 08:40:54 PMYes we do. I got a photo of it in depot last night before having to move it around to engineering so we could park rest of buses up it wad a loverly photo and nice to see a enviro 200mmc join the fleet.
I'm guessing it's for the new routes starting next month ?
Quote from: Jack6101 on December 06, 2024, 09:10:03 PMI'm guessing it's for the new routes starting next month ?
Maybe I don't know much information yet I'm off tonight so can't find out anything but I do know 30804 is no longer at tividale not sure where it's gone yet.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 06, 2024, 10:57:13 PMMaybe I don't know much information yet I'm off tonight so can't find out anything but I do know 30804 is no longer at tividale not sure where it's gone yet.
30302 is seems to be at south-east so id guess its followed suit.
Quote from: BK63 YWP on December 06, 2024, 06:13:14 PMAccording to a Facebook video, diamond has a (or some) ADL 200 MMC short wheel base due soon for west Midlands
SN66WHL with a second due from the same batch
Fresh arrival from Stanwell, 20188, was on the 226 today not tracking
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2024, 08:52:21 PMFresh arrival from Stanwell, 20188, was on the 226 today not tracking
It appears they have 20178 aswell
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2024, 08:52:21 PMFresh arrival from Stanwell, 20188, was on the 226 today not tracking
It's been at tividale for about a week now, and did a day on loan at redditch.
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2024, 08:52:21 PMFresh arrival from Stanwell, 20188, was on the 226 today not tracking
It seems some MAN Electrics have gone on loan to Stanwell for Heathrow routes BL1 & BL2 whilst the Custom Denning Electrics are still awaiting DVLA paperwork / entry in to service, suspect these are Streetlites are on loan to cover.
Quote from: winston on December 12, 2024, 09:50:17 AMIt seems some MAN Electrics have gone on loan to Stanwell for Heathrow routes BL1 & BL2 whilst the Custom Denning Electrics are still awaiting DVLA paperwork / entry in to service, suspect these are Streetlites are on loan to cover.
Did KX08HMY get taken off service completely do you know
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on December 12, 2024, 10:09:31 AMDid KX08HMY get taken off service completely do you know
30805 is only down as VOR on latest Rotala fleetlist, same as 40725 was, that doesn't necessarily it is withdrawn.
30805 is tracking in service today on the 326 at Tividale (assuming the driver has selected the correct vehicle ID on the ticketer)
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-30805
A little update on the new vehicles which have arrived,
4 new sprinters arrived at tividale depot on 20/12/2024, reg plates being WP74 MYV, WP74 MZN, WP74 MYU and WP74 MYL.
2 ADL E200 MMCs was delivered to tividale on 19/12/2024 one is YY74 WRK which is fleet number 20642 the other one is YY74 WRL unfortunately forgot to save the fleet number of that one so will find out when back in the depot tomorrow.
Then another ADL E200 MMCs was delivered on 18/12/2024 which is YY74 URX and this is fleet numbered 20641.
21219 is at tividale
20647 currently on the 14 towards Blackheath not tracking
Quote from: MSU2008 on January 07, 2025, 02:22:41 PM20647 currently on the 14 towards Blackheath not tracking
20647 is currently tracking as 20643 due to 20647 not being on the correct number as of yet I have reported this to the inspectors and are working to get it sorted.
32224 from redditch is also at tividale
32321 also looks to have transferred from Redditch ?
Quote from: Ash on January 09, 2025, 04:33:11 PM32321 also looks to have transferred from Redditch ?
Yes and 21219 is a transfer and 40820, 40830 40835 and 40841 have gone to redditch.
30531 is a bus tracking on bustimes, what bus is it?
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on January 18, 2025, 08:22:15 AM30531 is a bus tracking on bustimes, what bus is it?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/diam-30531
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on January 18, 2025, 08:22:15 AM30531 is a bus tracking on bustimes, what bus is it?
Aswell as Bustimes, 30531 is also showing on Tony's Rotala Fleetlist that he updates monthly on the Main Site:
http://wmbusphotos.com/Rotala/fleetlist.html
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2025, 06:30:00 PMWot u on about?
I just want Simon to remind his staff to set the destinations properly!
And I thought reporting dust to the DVSA was a good one.
20165 bus stopping sign is not working
Quote from: Westy on January 28, 2025, 06:57:53 PMWhat would've been even better, was if the 715am from Bloxwich was retimed earlier, to say 700am, then I wouldnt need to go via Walsall in the morning instead!
I really hope they change the timetable, just for you.
Quote from: Marge559 on January 28, 2025, 09:37:54 PMI really hope they change the timetable, just for you.
I don't 😂
Another new delivery WM74 FLC fleet number 15023.
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on January 30, 2025, 07:13:50 AM5 people asked
So what is the problem then?
I've asked Simon to look at the problem & he's looked at it.
End of.
Why do certain people have to take the #### ?
Quote from: Westy on January 30, 2025, 09:42:18 AMSo what is the problem then?
I've asked Simon to look at the problem & he's looked at it.
End of.
Why do certain people have to take the #### ?
Maybe because you seem to moan constantly!
Can we all get back on topic please, Winston
40725 is now back from repowering, makes it the first diamond double-decker ev. also makes them the first non-firstbus customer of the official wright repowering program of newpower.
(just to confirm it was newpower and not equipmake or the others?)
Quote from: EK40 on February 07, 2025, 09:19:04 PM40725 is now back from repowering, makes it the first diamond double-decker ev. also makes them the first non-firstbus customer of the official wright repowering program of newpower.
(just to confirm it was newpower and not equipmake or the others?)
40725 was repowered by NewPower.
20641 has now been painted into the brighter diamond livery and was out on the 31s today.
20159 has got blue smoke coming out of the exhaust when accelerating may only be a little but this issue could worsen, hence the reporting of it
32232: 16:12 4H Walsall - Hayley Green. Blank [defective] front display, side display OK.
Also, had my first ride on one of the Mk.2 Johnnycabs, this afternoon - 15022 on the 24H. Surprisingly good actually, only point of concern (from a pax POV) is the lack of grab poles by the entrance.