Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Kevin]

The deal was for a mix of 'double-deck and midibuses', no mention was made of full-length single-decks, so pretty much rules out E300s.

So we're stuck with Omnilinks...
Or maybe hope for some more Eclipses?

[Trident 4609]

The deal was for a mix of 'double-deck and midibuses', no mention was made of full-length single-decks, so pretty much rules out E300s.

So we're stuck with Omnilinks...
Or maybe hope for some more Eclipses?

The deal means all buses produced over the next 5 years for NXBus UK are built by ADL therefore no Eclipses (The B8RLE as it is about to become)

[Stevo]

Does the deal mean that NXWM can buy no other makes of bus during the next few years? I thought it was just a 5 year order for ADL products. While these should be enough (more or less) could NX not buy small batches of Volvos or other types?

[winston]

Does the deal mean that NXWM can buy no other makes of bus during the next few years? I thought it was just a 5 year order for ADL products. While these should be enough (more or less) could NX not buy small batches of Volvos or other types?

NX have signed an 'exclusive' deal with ADL to only buy their products over the 5 year period.

[Kevin]

Wow, so no new full length singles at all for 5 years?

[Tony]

Wow, so no new full length singles at all for 5 years?

Not necessarily. NX can take some E300s if needed and may well do

[winston]

Wow, so no new full length singles at all for 5 years?

Not necessarily, I believe it was suggested on here at some point that NX could be taking E300's from next years orders.

NX don't have that much of a requirement for Midi's, by the time this years 100 new buses are delivered, there shouldn't be any Midi's left in need of replacement

[Liverpool Street]

NX don't have that much of a requirement for Midi's, by the time this years 100 new buses are delivered, there shouldn't be any Midi's left in need of replacement

So what do the figures say? If you take out the amount of Midi's being delivered, and the Deckers, surely there's some numbers unaccounted for, which could be E300's? Obviously not this year, but think about it for next.

[winston]

NX don't have that much of a requirement for Midi's, by the time this years 100 new buses are delivered, there shouldn't be any Midi's left in need of replacement

So what do the figures say? If you take out the amount of Midi's being delivered, and the Deckers, surely there's some numbers unaccounted for, which could be E300's? Obviously not this year, but think about it for next.

Potentially there are up to another 500 new buses unaccounted for due between 2015-2018, assuming the full 600 due over 5 years is fulfilled.

I should image the press release was based upon the make-up of the 2014 orders and specific quantities for each type for the subsequent years is reasonably fluid to allow for changes in requirements.

Bus & Coach buyer claim 400 deckers & 200 midis have been ordered, but what would NXWM want with 200 Midi's when they only operate circa 84 now including Dundee.
http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/natexs-100m-adl-order/

[Liverpool Street]

NX don't have that much of a requirement for Midi's, by the time this years 100 new buses are delivered, there shouldn't be any Midi's left in need of replacement

So what do the figures say? If you take out the amount of Midi's being delivered, and the Deckers, surely there's some numbers unaccounted for, which could be E300's? Obviously not this year, but think about it for next.

Potentially there are up to another 500 new buses unaccounted for due between 2015-2018, assuming the full 600 due over 5 years is fulfilled.

I should image the press release was based upon the make-up of the 2014 orders and specific quantities for each type for the subsequent years is reasonably fluid to allow for changes in requirements.

Bus & Coach buyer claim 400 deckers & 200 midis have been ordered, but what would NXWM want with 200 Midi's when they only operate circa 84 now including Dundee.
http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/natexs-100m-adl-order/

By "Midis" they probably mean "Full Sized Single Deck" - It's not the first time B&C Magazine has got its wording wrong.

[Stevo]

I think I'm right in saying the E200 comes in a long version for around 41 seats - as this is so close to a 12m E300 which is around a 43 - 44 seater perhaps there is no need for E300s.

[lauren1993]

Do you think they will order any scania engined e400s?

[Kiewii]

I think I'm right in saying the E200 comes in a long version for around 41 seats - as this is so close to a 12m E300 which is around a 43 - 44 seater perhaps there is no need for E300s.

The largest E200 can seat 39 people, while the largest E300 can seat 46 people.

[winston]

I think I'm right in saying the E200 comes in a long version for around 41 seats - as this is so close to a 12m E300 which is around a 43 - 44 seater perhaps there is no need for E300s.

I don't think the E200's come that big, unless they are planning a longer version similar to the Streetlite Max. That kind of length would be equivalent to a Super pointer Dart.

[CL]

Out of the blue here, but... Would anybody like it is NX had got some E400s with the Scania (N230UD) Chassis? I'd love to see one. Makes for changes...

EDIT: Hadn't realised Lauren had said something regarding Scania. And thanks for clearing it up, Tony.