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Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

Started by Stuharris 6360, May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM

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Stuharris 6360

Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

PM

Thanks for posting that link Stu.

I actually quite like it and it reminds me of the MCV decker and almost the Levante coach at the front with those lights.

In the right livery it could look quite nice.

Anyone know what is happening with the e200/300 for euro6

wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)

I think it looks good! At least they haven't fallen into Volvo's trap of making the windows tiny! If anything they look bigger

winston

Quote from: Nathan on May 01, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
seems the Enviro 400 has had a revamp

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/the-all-new-enviro400-designed-by-the-industry-for-the-industry/

And from June onwards we will get to see the new facelifted E400 in the NX fleet. Tbh i prefer the current design....

I wouldn't have though that any are due this summer if ADL have only announced details of the new design today. I would think they would be the current design and the design might change over towards the end of 2014?

I quite like the revised design, as per DiamondDart comments the headlight cluster do look very 'Caetano Levante'

Niall

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Quote from: DiamondDart on May 01, 2014, 10:11:09 PM
Thanks for posting that link Stu.

I actually quite like it and it reminds me of the MCV decker


I thought exactly the same thing, it looks very good. Lets hope the ones NX get keep the black light surrounds, although I doubt it. The only thing I would say is that the way the red side panels curve towards the centre of the front round the upper windscreen looks slightly awkward.

There's a couple more photos here:

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro400-euro6/
I'm on Flickr and Youtube

nitromatt1

An excellent design. I like the wrap-around windscreen particularly. I look forward to seeing these around Birmingham.

winston

#6
Quote from: Nathan on May 01, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
Winston, Wssn't it mentioned by BN that the first of the new deliveries were in June (Please correct me if i'm wrong)? I suppose if this is the case then could these possibly be E200's for WA like mentioned during the WA tour?

It was, the dates could have gone back a bit by now?

We still don't actually know what types/quantities are due of the 100 new ADL vehicles due during the second half of this year

We were only told that WA garage had bid for E200's, it doesn't mean they will get them. Plans / allocations have probably changed numerous times since then.

winston

Quote from: N94 on May 01, 2014, 10:19:58 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 01, 2014, 10:11:09 PM
Thanks for posting that link Stu.

I actually quite like it and it reminds me of the MCV decker


I thought exactly the same thing, it looks very good. Lets hope the ones NX get keep the black light surrounds, although I doubt it. The only thing I would say is that the way the red side panels curve towards the centre of the front round the upper windscreen looks slightly awkward.

There's a couple more photos here:

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/products/enviro400-euro6/

The shaping of the rear engine compartment & light clusters give an air of coach styling

Niall

A quick mock-up of what it might look like in NX livery...
I'm on Flickr and Youtube

PM

Quote from: N94 on May 01, 2014, 10:56:35 PM
A quick mock-up of what it might look like in NX livery...

You are good N94!!! Thanks a lot for posting. After looking at it again I have decided it would look better if the upper deck windscreen didn't bulge forwards. Reminds me slightly of the distinctive Nottingham decker design in that respect. Looks ok tho in NX livery.

Mike K

Quote from: Winston on May 01, 2014, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 01, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
seems the Enviro 400 has had a revamp

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/the-all-new-enviro400-designed-by-the-industry-for-the-industry/

And from June onwards we will get to see the new facelifted E400 in the NX fleet. Tbh i prefer the current design....

I wouldn't have though that any are due this summer if ADL have only announced details of the new design today. I would think they would be the current design and the design might change over towards the end of 2014?

I quite like the revised design, as per DiamondDart comments the headlight cluster do look very 'Caetano Levante'

Whilst the design has only just been formally unveiled, this picture from late January appears to show an albeit heavily disguised version of the new design - it does look to be the same as that on the ADL website - so maybe we can expect to see these quite soon?

https://cy-gb.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/1483514995209164

nitromatt1

I assume the bodywork will be available on other chassis too, and not just as part of a complete ADL product.

Trident 4609

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Quote from: Matt on May 01, 2014, 11:24:13 PM
I assume the bodywork will be available on other chassis too, and not just as part of a complete ADL product.

Well I assume these will have the facelifted bodywork but as mentioned in another thread Stagecoach have purchased 18 ADL bodied Volvo B5L Hybrids for its Tayside operation:

http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/stagecoach-orders-adl-bodied-volvo-hybrids/


winston

#13
Quote from: Mike K on May 01, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 01, 2014, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 01, 2014, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM
seems the Enviro 400 has had a revamp

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/the-all-new-enviro400-designed-by-the-industry-for-the-industry/

And from June onwards we will get to see the new facelifted E400 in the NX fleet. Tbh i prefer the current design....

I wouldn't have though that any are due this summer if ADL have only announced details of the new design today. I would think they would be the current design and the design might change over towards the end of 2014?

I quite like the revised design, as per DiamondDart comments the headlight cluster do look very 'Caetano Levante'

Whilst the design has only just been formally unveiled, this picture from late January appears to show an albeit heavily disguised version of the new design - it does look to be the same as that on the ADL website - so maybe we can expect to see these quite soon?

https://cy-gb.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/1483514995209164

You may well be right, I'm surprised it's been kept under raps this long. The windscreen does look to be rectangular on that photo, but it could be camouflaged?

Quote from: Nathan on May 01, 2014, 11:30:46 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 01, 2014, 11:24:13 PM
I assume the bodywork will be available on other chassis too, and not just as part of a complete ADL product.

Well I assume these will have the facelifted bodywork but as mentioned in another thread Stagecoach have purchased 18 ADL bodied Volvo B5L Hybrids for its Tayside operation:

http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/stagecoach-orders-adl-bodied-volvo-hybrids/

It says in the article 'with a new style ADL double deck bodywork'




trident4370

Have to say this impresses me 100 times more than the Gemini 3, kind of looks like the MCV decker and Levante had some influence imo but I'm just glad it actually looks like a bus, rather than a big plastic box.

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