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not many got hagley road route branding on them soon be read to go to yardley wood  8)

serving the dingles lol  :)

its being done in a black country accent  so get learning our lingo  bostin ay it
:) 8)

Any thoughts on what slogans the WN Hybrids might carry? 'Turning the Black Country Green' perhaps?

hybrids for the inbreeds  or dingles on board

no engines were taken out of the bendis at pensnett they were old b6 and merc engines from our buses

b6 on 222 earlier on today

more older enviro on 246 due to the high milage problem on our 09 plates im told 30 older ones from brum poss yw plus 10 poss from pb

I'd be surprised if Pensnett gained 30 x Enviro 400's, they don't need that many additional deckers 15 would be more than enough. If Enviros are possibly being released from YW that would mean that the 50 is due a batch of new buses

our 09 plate enviros going back into a brum garage poss yw there being replaced with 30 older enviro 400s poss from yw with another 10 poss from pb

Oh I understand now...... that's not good for Pensnett, as Pensnett have spent a large portion of its maintenance budget having the 09 plate Enviros repainted
& retrimmed.

The 07/57 Enviros from YW & PB will all need a fair bit of money spent on them bringing them up too scratch both internally & externally. It's not going to be good for passengers on the 9/141 either.

What is the benefit of swapping 09 plate buses for 07/57 plate buses? Surely the YW Enviros have been worked pretty hard on the 50 as it is, by moving them on to the intensive Hagley Road routes, this will work them harder still and they could potentially become more un-reliable & need extra money throwing at them mechanically.

If the 09 plate Enviros are clocking up that many miles per year, surely it would be better policy to replace them with new double deckers every 3-4 years and cascade the older ones to other garages to work less intensive routes and bring down the average mileage per year over the longer term

Now we can see why they are being repainted and de-branded. But surely the 9 is one of NXWM premier routes and requires decent buses, and the excuse being used for swapping the Enviros over (that they are being worked to hard and clocking up to many miles) doesn't wash with me.

it would if i told you the other reason this is happening but im not  also older enviro 400 to come to pensnett are to be fully fefurbished before/as we have them 

more older enviro on 246 due to the high milage problem on our 09 plates im told 30 older ones from brum poss yw plus 10 poss from pb

Just wondering what you mean by a high mileage problem, are the current PE Enviro's being overworked then or something? As I know its a quite demanding route, and last Saturday night about 10 I got a 9 from Brum to Stourbridge and I don't think I've ever known a bus thrashed so much, it only took about 40 minutes if that.

And additionally I suppose they are 4 years old now and in the past the 9 had quite a turn around of new buses at BC, Spectra's, Presidents, Tridents and then the Enviro.

our enviros are out nearly 24hrs 7 days a week were putting to much yearly milage on them

more older enviro on 246 due to the high milage problem on our 09 plates im told 30 older ones from brum poss yw plus 10 poss from pb

I'd be surprised if Pensnett gained 30 x Enviro 400's, they don't need that many additional deckers 15 would be more than enough. If Enviros are possibly being released from YW that would mean that the 50 is due a batch of new buses

our 09 plate enviros going back into a brum garage poss yw there being replaced with 30 older enviro 400s poss from yw with another 10 poss from pb

more older enviro on 246 due to the high milage problem on our 09 plates im told 30 older ones from brum poss yw plus 10 poss from pb

829 died today at mery hill tow truck job back  :(

yes march

just a thought as we now have enviro 200s lwb they could order enviro 200 swb models to replace solos just like the hotel hoppers or even move some up to nxwm depending on how many they wanted

I went past PE on Friday, 1664 was parked on the front row with other vehicles, unless i had known better, there did not look to much wrong with it.

1663 was a different matter with significant rear end damage, no back window, badly scourched area round bonnet, quite a number of blackened windows.

As I understand it 1664 is fairly minor fire damage mainly confined to the engine compartment, 1663's future sounds as though it could be in doubt, it probably wont be worth repairing at this stage in its life

I don't think 1664 will be withdrawn but 1663 would require extensive repair.

1663 burn to a crisp up tp cab area  1662 and 1665 very  worried

827 made it into service today along with 823 824 and 826