February for the Streetdeck at the rate its going...
Quote from: Chris on January 21, 2016, 02:22:27 PM
February for the Streetdeck at the rate its going...
I'm thinking March.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 21, 2016, 03:15:48 PM
I'm thinking March.
Why? I was told before mid Feb it'll be here
Quote from: WN on January 21, 2016, 03:17:45 PM
Why? I was told before mid Feb it'll be here
We haven't heard anything! Not even what their fleet numbers will be which means they most likely haven't been built yet. I might be wrong (and probably am) but it is a guess.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 21, 2016, 03:20:50 PM
We haven't heard anything! Not even what their fleet numbers will be which means they most likely haven't been built yet. I might be wrong (and probably am) but it is a guess.
There were links to photographs of it nearly finished at Wrights posted on here some time ago. The fleetnumber has been allocated for a few months. No-one I have seen has suggested the correct number yet
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2016, 03:30:25 PM
There were links to photographs of it nearly finished at Wrights posted on here some time ago. The fleetnumber has been allocated for a few months. No-one I have seen has suggested the correct number yet
Why can we not be told if it has been allocated?
I know it ha ha
It's due very soon our dto has been told to make plans to type train drivers
Quote from: karl724223 on January 21, 2016, 05:06:07 PM
I know it ha ha
It's due very soon our dto has been told to make plans to type train drivers
Are their any other details pertaining to the delivery ?! Such as how many will be delivered, can the garage accomodate the buses, if not what will be going. and what routes will they be going on and taking the trend that seems to be going on, i take it they'll be route branded
@GeminiFan1991 is a seed vehicle so only 1
6699 or 6300? Keeping 6149-299 for mmcs?
Quote from: Chris on January 21, 2016, 05:25:54 PM
@GeminiFan1991 is a seed vehicle so only 1
6699 or 6300? Keeping 6149-299 for mmcs?
My bad, I should have remembered ! I was thinking along the lines of may be 6500 as I think we're probably due more E400MMCs
Both wrong on number of the bus
Only one bus coming to pensnett
Is supposed to be for the 9 only
Quote from: karl724223 on January 21, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
Both wrong on number of the bus
Only one bus coming to pensnett
Is supposed to be for the 9 only
I'm hoping it's the new angular front model, the design has grown on me... ~ I know aesthetics aren't everything, but I think it plays a fair part in the industry. - and I know I shouldn't assume, but I really don't want this streetdeck to be branded...
Quote from: Chris on January 21, 2016, 05:25:54 PM
@GeminiFan1991 is a seed vehicle so only 1
6699 or 6300? Keeping 6149-299 for mmcs?
I'm thinking possibly 8***'s since they haven't been used yet. That means the 6***'s can be reserved for Enviro 400 MMC's.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 21, 2016, 06:11:16 PM
I'm thinking possibly 8***'s since they haven't been used yet. That means the 6***'s can be reserved for Enviro 400 MMC's.
Fleetnumber 8014
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/8014.html
It's not 8014
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
Fleetnumber 8014
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/8014.html
Well 8014 is with Abellio now along with the others. Although I am probably wrong like usual.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 21, 2016, 06:36:47 PM
Well 8014 is with Abellio now along with the others. Although I am probably wrong like usual.
I heavily doubt they'll give a seed vehicle a fleet number within the 8*** range. Being a seed vehicle, theirs a chance that NX might not see this as a viable vehicle. I'm starting to think it might be like other 1 offs and it's fleet number might be something fills in a gap (Possibly 4799)
With all due respect why do people get drawn into guessing games as to the fleet number when it's clear it won't be revealed. Besides, who gives a monkey's chuff what the fleet number is?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 21, 2016, 06:36:47 PM
Well 8014 is with Abellio now along with the others. Although I am probably wrong like usual.
But it is still on the computer system, the same as all other vehicles owned in the last 10 years
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 21, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
I heavily doubt they'll give a seed vehicle a fleet number within the 8*** range. Being a seed vehicle, theirs a chance that NX might not see this as a viable vehicle. I'm starting to think it might be like other 1 offs and it's fleet number might be something fills in a gap (Possibly 4799)
I was thinking about the main fleet. The seed vehicle will probably be given the fleet number 4797.
Quote from: Mike K on January 21, 2016, 06:49:32 PM
With all due respect why do people get drawn into guessing games as to the fleet number when it's clear it won't be revealed. Besides, who gives a monkey's chuff what the fleet number is?
@Mike K - nice one!! 😂😂 I'll tell you what it is though it's like Vera off Corrie she always wanted to know the gossip well that's the same here people are wanting to know what the fleet numbers are going to be it beats me why they can't just wait & see!
6100?
The latest PSV Circle Journal reckons it will be 3301.
Quote from: D10 on January 21, 2016, 08:31:54 PM
The latest PSV Circle Journal reckons it will be 3301.
Which is about right to save any more guessing
Interesting choice.
If we do get an order for a larger batch, can we have 3318-50 on the 55 please? 😃
Expect photos of 3301 to start appearing on Facebook / Flikr today, it has been seen at the docks
So 3301 turns up at the docks on my birthday. Will it be collected today?
The streetdeck is registered SM65 WNC (3301)
Photos now on Facebook! Angular front and it looks amazing!
@WN do you have any links to it please many thanks
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 23, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
@WN do you have any links to it please many thanks
Top of this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/411584718880057/?fref=nf
Quote from: WN on January 23, 2016, 03:26:23 PM
Photos now on Facebook! Angular front and it looks amazing!
I second that. I've always liked that style front end, but I do think the Crimson livery suits it even more than other liveries I've seen on it
Quote from: John on January 23, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
I second that. I've always liked that style front end, but I do think the Crimson livery suits it even more than other liveries I've seen on it
The nx livery does suit it, platinum livery would look good on it lol
Quote from: John on January 23, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
I second that. I've always liked that style front end, but I do think the Crimson livery suits it even more than other liveries I've seen on it
Exactly what I said to a mate
@John Suits it very well!
Is their a picture that's not on Facebook as it requires a log in and I don't have an account
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 03:57:46 PM
Is their a picture that's not on Facebook as it requires a log in and I don't have an account
Not at the moment. I would print screen it or save it but it's not my photo so I can't unfortunately.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 03:57:46 PM
Is their a picture that's not on Facebook as it requires a log in and I don't have an account
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsf323alistair/sets/72157663281160290
Quote from: Tony on January 23, 2016, 05:45:57 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsf323alistair/sets/72157663281160290
Thank You Sir,
It gives a good insight and might I say it looks quite good despite the limited viewing although I like the design and the overall shape is reminiscent of our Geminis and B5s
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 06:20:13 PM
Thank You Sir,
It gives a good insight and might I say it looks quite good despite the limited viewing although I like the design and the overall shape is reminiscent of our Geminis and B5s
Can you see this one
@GeminiFan1991 https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12509497_10209066951369696_3291274562762551685_n.jpg?oh=229306fd437245c3e80ff6beda22f802&oe=57437160
Quote from: John on January 23, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Can you see this one @GeminiFan1991
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12509497_10209066951369696_3291274562762551685_n.jpg?oh=229306fd437245c3e80ff6beda22f802&oe=57437160
Thank You Sir !
To me it retains the massive shape I think Geminis have and the angular look seemingly fits and overall I like it ! I hope ride it soon
Probably get price branded, please leave it plain til more come.
Quote from: John on January 23, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
Can you see this one @GeminiFan1991
https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12509497_10209066951369696_3291274562762551685_n.jpg?oh=229306fd437245c3e80ff6beda22f802&oe=57437160
That looks really smart, I like how the livery is modified slightly to suit the design of the bus. Very eyecatching, it would be good to see these become part of the fleet.
Quote from: Chris on January 23, 2016, 11:11:09 AM
So 3301 turns up at the docks on my birthday. Will it be collected today?
Must be like all your Christmas & birthdays rolled into one 8)
How long before the streetdeck hits the road I know driver need to be type trained engineers trained as it's now arrived
Quote from: Solo1 on January 23, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
How long before the streetdeck hits the road I know driver need to be type trained engineers trained as it's now arrived
not at pensnett yet
These buses will if a full order is commissioned will make a welcome difference/change to the current fleet IMHO. The crimson livery looks great on these Streetdecks shame about not seeing the front profile as well but beggars can't be choosers with the pictures lol. Can't wait to see this on the road on the 9
Looks excellent - the livery suits it perfectly (do hope this leads to more Wrights coming into the fleet again in the future).
Quote from: Squiz1971 on January 23, 2016, 07:13:15 PM
These buses will if a full order is commissioned will make a welcome difference/change to the current fleet IMHO. The crimson livery looks great on these Streetlites shame about not seeing the front profile as well but beggars can't be choosers with the pictures lol. Can't wait to see this on the road on the 9
Streetdecks* Haha!
I'm so happy to see the angular front; loving the aesthetics, the body and livery seem to conplement each other very well! I won't lie, i'm slightly disappointed that the Streetdeck hasn't got the staircase windows, but I guess it is what it is.
Quote from: karl724223 on January 23, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
not at pensnett yet
it's arrived at the docks .when it's arrives at pensnett how long will it be before it on the road
Acording to A group on facebook it has to go to BC garage first to be evalueted
Quote from: 900 on January 23, 2016, 07:46:37 PM
Acording to A group on facebook it has to go to BC garage first to be evalueted
@900 well duh! Every bus is evaluated and the fact it was confirmed by a BC driver! Come on!
Quote from: WN on January 23, 2016, 07:59:23 PM
@900 well duh! Every bus is evaluated and the fact it was confirmed by a BC driver! Come on!
@WN i never saw that post i do apolgse
@GeminiFan1991 the 9 requires 21/22 vehicles for peak so no spare mmcs if ones off the road hence tridents popping up now and then. Streetdeck will be used on the 9 so the odd mmc will probably crop up on 141 etc. Tbh i wouldn't be surprised if nx orders more. But like
@Nathan said it will most likely be assessed against the mmcs
I wonder if when it's gets evaluated and nx decide to buy more if it will go with the hole batch of street decks if they do order any more. I like how the bus has the curved line looks good. But where would the branding go if any was to be applied on these
3301
Impressive most impressive, just goes to show what an excellent livery can do for a bus, most streetdeck,s I,ve seen have been in hideous colours so not really helping with visual aesthetics.
I can see an order for these if the engineering side of things are ok.
Bring it on
Excellent looking vehicle , I repeat what I said in the pensnett thread
Quote from: Bryan on January 24, 2016, 09:58:44 AM
If you said it in the Pensnett thread, why start a new thread?
So it doesn't continue to fill pn thread. People opinions of the appearance and performance of the vehicle can go here
I'm slowly warming to the rather angular front design, the rear looks quite nice. Shame the upstairs windows look so short [in depth]. 3301 is a curious choice of fleet number - although the range from 3301 to 3999 is free, so plenty of room for a big order!
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 24, 2016, 11:18:30 AM
I'm slowly warming to the rather angular front design, the rear looks quite nice. Shame the upstairs windows look so short [in depth]. 3301 is a curious choice of fleet number - although the range from 3301 to 3999 is free, so plenty of room for a big order!
Tbh i think the earlier Streekdeck came out in awful liveries i.e. Brighton and Hove Bright green and the all Pink one for a northern company, can't remember which one. NX has proved that the crimson livery can be applied to any vehicle and look good. I like the front where theres more black on the front upper deck pillars and the destination blinds
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 24, 2016, 11:18:30 AM
I'm slowly warming to the rather angular front design, the rear looks quite nice. Shame the upstairs windows look so short [in depth]. 3301 is a curious choice of fleet number - although the range from 3301 to 3999 is free, so plenty of room for a big order!
Logic with the fleetnumbers went out the window when they started with 61xx MMCs.... You'd have thought with it only being a seed vehicle they'd have gone for 499x as per 4697/4698. But never mind.
Yeah I agree with many it seems, the livery on that body looks ace
I quite like Streetdecks. One or more in the future possibly on the old home patch is bostin! Again, looks the business.
It's true - an angular design is improved by the livery. The Streetdeck has the small 4.9 litre Merc engine - I wonder how it'll cope with Drews Holloway and the other hills on the 9. Looking forward to finding out!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 24, 2016, 11:37:22 AM
I quite like Streetdecks. One or more in the future possibly on the old home patch is bostin! Again, looks the business.
Maybe Platinum Streetdecks for 529 :)
Quote from: Chris on January 24, 2016, 12:07:26 PM
Maybe Platinum Streetdecks for 529 :)
I don't think the 529 would get Platinum. The current Platinum routes are all express services/limited stop services -
900/A, 957, X51, 997, 934, 935, 936, 937/A
Quote from: Stevo on January 24, 2016, 11:53:56 AM
It's true - an angular design is improved by the livery. The Streetdeck has the small 4.9 litre Merc engine - I wonder how it'll cope with Drews Holloway and the other hills on the 9. Looking forward to finding out!
Better than the MMC's hopefully
I've been told that the 126 and 529 will be getting them, how true that is I don't know!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on January 24, 2016, 01:29:14 PM
I've been told that the 126 and 529 will be getting them, how true that is I don't know!
126 probably
529 HELL NO, They'll be trashed in a week.
Quote from: WN on January 24, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
126 probably
529 HELL NO, They'll be trashed in a week.
Very stereotypical, what's wrong with the 529? After all they gave soho road new buses
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 24, 2016, 01:34:34 PM
Very stereotypical
YOU'RE ONE TO TALK, ''Modern ADL crap''?!
Go and look for yourself! THe 529 branded buses are scratched to high hell damaged up and down, passengers are constantly abusing them!
Well there's 60 coming in the next 9 months
Quote from: WN on January 24, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
126 probably
529 HELL NO, They'll be trashed in a week.
A week? I'll give it an hour.
Quote from: pndriver on January 24, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
Well there's 60 coming in the next 9 months
60 more platinums, I wonder where to then?
Quote from: WN on January 24, 2016, 01:50:44 PM
60 more platinums, I wonder where to then?
Says in the email, every district in the black country
Quote from: pndriver on January 24, 2016, 01:51:46 PM
Says in the email, every district in the black country
I meant that in more detail, as in which routes. Should of made it clearer.
Quote from: pndriver on January 24, 2016, 01:51:46 PM
Says in the email, every district in the black country
9 platinum 246 Crimson
Maybe some single deck platinum for the x96
Lothian uses their Streetdecks on the 34 and 100 (Airport to City service), you get used to the front design. However, they have also have some Gemini 3s that they use on their 3 service, I must say, I do prefer the Gemini 3 design, it looks familiar to the Gemini 2, but also a lot better
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 24, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
Lothian uses their Streetdecks on the 34 and 100 (Airport to City service), you get used to the front design. However, they have also have some Gemini 3s that they use on their 3 service, I must say, I do prefer the Gemini 3 design, it looks familiar to the Gemini 2, but also a lot better
Lothian does not have any StreetDecks
All of Lothians are Wrights bodied Volvos
I started this thread round half 9 this morning I,ve. Come back it 6 pages already , I noticed now pages pulled out from pennsnet thread , I was thinking the way it's going on that it,ll be 1000 pages before long.
@2900 I split & merged the posts relating to '3301' out of the 'Pensnett Garage' thread seen as though is has a dedicated thread, Winston
Quote from: 2900 on January 24, 2016, 04:02:51 PM
I started this thread round half 9 this morning I,ve. Come back it 6 pages already , I noticed now pages pulled out from pennsnet thread , I was thinking the way it's going on that it,ll be 1000 pages before long.
whats it going to be like when the bus is in service
If nx was to place an order for street decks which garage would benefit from it , you have all Volvo doubles at AG
WN ,YW ,PN, ALEXANDER DENNIS doubles, BC majority ALEXANDER DENNIS Doubles
Quote from: karl724223 on January 24, 2016, 04:07:00 PM
whats it going to be like when the bus is in service
at 12:02 streetdeck leaving colmore row
13:08 streetdeck at Stourbridge
Streetdeck on the moon at 16:00 hrs
Quote from: 2900 on January 24, 2016, 04:11:14 PM
If nx was to place an order for street decks which garage would benefit from it , you have all Volvo doubles at AG
WN ,YW ,PN, ALEXANDER DENNIS doubles, BC majority ALEXANDER DENNIS Doubles
I'd like to see some at AG maybe, but I wouldn't know what service for. The 5/31 don't seem like they'd warrant new buses as they're not really "mainstream" or main corridor routes.
A good candidate would be PB for the 94.
I reckon a nice new fleet of these Streetdecks for the Bristol Road.
I mean, it can only end well, surely
Quote from: 2900 on January 24, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
at 12:02 streetdeck leaving colmore row
13:08 streetdeck at Stourbridge
Streetdeck on the moon at 16:00 hrs
Don't forget the numerous requests in the Buses To Find thread!
"3301 for tomorrow please" ;D
Quote from: Stu on January 24, 2016, 04:38:55 PM
Don't forget the numerous requests in the Buses To Find thread!
"3301 for tomorrow please" ;D
3303 for 3/1/2017 pls thx
Quote from: MW on January 24, 2016, 04:27:45 PM
I'd like to see some at AG maybe, but I wouldn't know what service for. The 5/31 don't seem like they'd warrant new buses as they're not really "mainstream" or main corridor routes.
A good candidate would be PB for the 94.
94 I would like to see it, but i doubt it.
Quote from: 2900 on January 24, 2016, 04:15:21 PM
at 12:02 streetdeck leaving colmore row
13:08 streetdeck at Stourbridge
Streetdeck on the moon at 16:00 hrs
ha ha
Buses to find 3301
What route is 3301 on today
3301 was parked up in Stourbridge at 1200 even though I was in school at the time
3301 brokedown with hazards on colmore row saw it on ten Facebook pages run by kids in school ( driver was on a 15 min drop back )
Is it DDA compliant
Will driver give change
Quote from: karl724223 on January 24, 2016, 04:47:38 PM
ha ha
Buses to find 3301
What route is 3301 on today
3301 was parked up in Stourbridge at 1200 even though I was in school at the time
3301 brokedown with hazards on colmore row saw it on ten Facebook pages run by kids in school ( driver was on a 15 min drop back )
Is it DDA compliant
Will driver give change
So true, half of facebook is run by 14 year old kids.
Can we get back on topic and stop pre-empting posts / requests before it has even left Heysham docks, Winston
At the end of the day, it's just another bus.
We're just all going to wait and see what NX decide to do, once they've done all their evaluations. I can only see passenger opinions making a small contribution, no doubt much of the evaluation will be based on comparing performance against the E400, as well as opinions from drivers and engineering staff. Because after all, if it turns out to be less fuel-efficient and a pain for engineering to maintain, and thus more costly to run, then there's no point in bulk-ordering more.
So in my mind it's really too early to be speculating on how many will be coming in total and which garages they'll go to, as I bet even NX don't know yet!
Wonder if it will be like 4697 and 4698 where the enviro was favoured but they still ordered 4777-4781 so they had a small batch?
The streetdecks I get to drive with First are nice buses, much better than the Streetlites. The engine copes fine with hills around Malvern and with full loads so cant see this being an issue. A couple of ours have already made it onto the 144 so who knows they might bump into each other in Brum (hopefully not literally though!!!) I have never driven an Enviro 400 so couldn't compare the two but from what I have heard from NXWM drivers, I think the Streetdeck will go down well.
Quote from: j789 on January 24, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
The streetdecks I get to drive with First are nice buses, much better than the Streetlites. The engine copes fine with hills around Malvern and with full loads so cant see this being an issue. A couple of ours have already made it onto the 144 so who knows they might bump into each other in Brum (hopefully not literally though!!!) I have never driven an Enviro 400 so couldn't compare the two but from what I have heard from NXWM drivers, I think the Streetdeck will go down well.
Basically 4800's far nicer to drive...... 6100's ok along certain parts of the route, don't like hills or pulling away at roundabouts but the heating in the cab is great.
@j789 Interesting to hear - I'm right in thinking your Streetdecks are fitted with the D854.6 four speed Voiths?
Will be interesting to see which gearbox the NX example has actually got.
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 24, 2016, 09:00:02 PM
@j789
Interesting to hear - I'm right in thinking your Streetdecks are fitted with the D854.6 four speed Voiths?
Will be interesting to see which gearbox the NX example has actually got.
Something strangulated and terrible no doubt
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 24, 2016, 09:14:45 PM
Something strangulated and terrible no doubt
Don't know
@Liverpool Street , would have thought this one would be perfect if they are trying for orders, probably the production models that won't be,
@Liverpool Street ;) Haha - Know what you mean! Rather interesting when riding an E400 (63 reg) with GoAhead - same ZF gearbox except very good on accelerating - all to do with the gearbox setup really.
Haven't heard a ZF Streetdeck - but the Voiths are pretty good - I know Brighton's versions were slow up hills though but that may've been improved in the latest versions.
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 24, 2016, 09:00:02 PM
@j789
Interesting to hear - I'm right in thinking your Streetdecks are fitted with the D854.6 four speed Voiths?
Will be interesting to see which gearbox the NX example has actually got.
I know the 64 reg streetlites have Voiths but am unsure of the new 65 Streetlites and Streetdecks. I actually thought they were Mercedes engines but like I say, I am unsure of the details.
3301 looks very smart indeed. Does it have bonded glazing - i noticed this morning that Go Ahead Metrobus's WHV class have gasket glazing and look a lot less neat.
That angular front is definitely an acquired taste - there are mixed opinions - I've heard them referred to variously by very young children as Frankenstein buses (frightening I guess to them), or handsome, chisel jaw buses (by commuters) - I quite like them now - thought they were hideous when I first saw them - still object to being subjected to shallow upper deck windows though (I believe TfL are the culprits - via NBFL).
It has now arrived at BC and I have just been down to have a look over it.
Driver's cab is very basic with minimal dials,switches and lights (which I like)
It has a Voith gearbox for those interested in such things.
Seating is 45 over 29 with plenty of legroom for me at 6 foot.
The narrow windows which stem from the weight reduction more than TfL spec don't seem chlostraphobic or dark at all, and sat in the front corner seats the view doesn't seem to be as bad as you would think it is with those thick pillars. I haven't had chance to drive it yet, but certainly from a passenger point of view I like it.
Photos of the inside and out will be on the main site tonight
Quote from: Tony on January 25, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
It has now arrived at BC and I have just been down to have a look over it.
Driver's cab is very basic with minimal dials,switches and lights (which I like)
It has a Voith gearbox for those interested in such things.
Seating is 45 over 29 with plenty of legroom for me at 6 foot.
The narrow windows which stem from the weight reduction more than TfL spec don't seem chlostraphobic or dark at all, and sat in the front corner seats the view doesn't seem to be as bad as you would think it is with those thick pillars. I haven't had chance to drive it yet, but certainly from a passenger point of view I like it.
Photos of the inside and out will be on the main site tonight
The only chassis/engine designation other than Wright StreetDeck is 'SA9DDRSXX15' - does that apply to this vehicle. The registration has been given out as SM65 WNC, is that correct? H45/29F seems appropriate as quite a few Wright Eclipse Gemini's are to that configuration.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 25, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
The only chassis/engine designation other than Wright StreetDeck is 'SA9DDRSXX15' - does that apply to this vehicle. The registration has been given out as SM65 WNC, is that correct? H45/29F seems appropriate as quite a few Wright Eclipse Gemini's are to that configuration.
The chassis is a StreetDeck no code, those are just the first few charactors of the VIN
Registration is SM65 WNC
Quote from: Tony on January 25, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
It has now arrived at BC and I have just been down to have a look over it.
Driver's cab is very basic with minimal dials,switches and lights (which I like)
It has a Voith gearbox for those interested in such things.
Seating is 45 over 29 with plenty of legroom for me at 6 foot.
The narrow windows which stem from the weight reduction more than TfL spec don't seem chlostraphobic or dark at all, and sat in the front corner seats the view doesn't seem to be as bad as you would think it is with those thick pillars. I haven't had chance to drive it yet, but certainly from a passenger point of view I like it.
Photos of the inside and out will be on the main site tonight
Interesting observations! It certainly looks very smart from the outside and I imagine the inside will as well, especially in current NX spec interior. The main complaint with StreetDecks to date seems to be difficulty getting up hills, with suggestions they're great in the city but can't match some other types on testing hilly terrain.
Quote from: Tony on January 25, 2016, 03:02:33 PM
The chassis is a StreetDeck no code, those are just the first few charactors of the VIN
Registration is SM65 WNC
Ah right [the only code I'd come across, I meant] I suppose the body is 'Wright StreetDeck H45/29F' - although its an integral design.
I have to say, it looks really impressive in NX livery. So much so, I think I actually prefer this to the Gemini 3, especially the wrap-around windscreen.
Quote from: Tony on January 25, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
The narrow windows which stem from the weight reduction more than TfL spec don't seem chlostraphobic or dark at all, and sat in the front corner seats the view doesn't seem to be as bad as you would think it is with those thick pillars. I haven't had chance to drive it yet, but certainly from a passenger point of view I like it.
I agree with your view of sitting inside the upper deck - I travelled on a B and H one from Eastbourne to Brighton and return. It also went up significant inclines without apparent difficulty. I'm not convinced on the reduced glazing saving weight (or reducing sun gain as claimed for NBFL) - the car part of the motor industry has moved in the opposite direction - increasing areas of glazing - I am doubtful they would do this at the expense of weight and fuel consumption.
I'm looking forward to seeing the photos. Any idea when it will enter service?
Photos of 3301 at BC are here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/3301.html
@Tony Thanks for posting them Tony - looks very smart and sounds promising.
It really looks like an mmc from interior
Candidates for other potential seed buses
Volvo B5TL using wrightbus or mcv bodies
ADL ENVIRO 400 CITYBUS
OPTARE can't see it my self happening the other 3 possible
Scania/ADL product when available possibly? Could be tempting as a gas powered decker
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 25, 2016, 10:22:34 PM
Scania/ADL product when available possibly? Could be tempting as a gas powered decker
Gas buses back on the 529 ha ha ;D
Hope it drives better than their streetlites .
Quote from: JIM C on January 25, 2016, 11:46:36 PM
Hope it drives better than their streetlites .
it does seem like neither ADL or WRIGHTBUS can make a decent small/midi bus strikes me as strange they make good double deckers.
Quote from: Mike K on January 23, 2016, 06:38:05 PM
That looks really smart, I like how the livery is modified slightly to suit the design of the bus. Very eyecatching, it would be good to see these become part of the fleet.
Oooooh! YUM!
Just to get this straight
This is an integral Wright product with no involvement from Volvo?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2016, 01:00:44 PM
Just to get this straight
This is an integral Wright product with no involvement from Volvo?
That's right. It's 100% a Wrights bus.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 26, 2016, 01:00:44 PM
Just to get this straight
This is an integral Wright product with no involvement from Volvo?
Think the integral product is equipped with Daimler 4.9 litre engine - don't know if you can choose an alternative. I can't remember if the Gemini 3 has the same angular front end or a more conventional Wright Gemini front - that's the one built on a Volvo chassis. Need to have another look on Flickr.
What happened to that 5 year deal where NXWM only brought ADL buses?
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 26, 2016, 01:23:40 PM
Think the integral product is equipped with Daimler 4.9 litre engine - don't know if you can choose an alternative. I can't remember if the Gemini 3 has the same angular front end or a more conventional Wright Gemini front - that's the one built on a Volvo chassis. Need to have another look on Flickr.
The Go Ahead Metrobus Hybrids (WHV class) (Gemini 3) have the angular front.
Quote from: Dylan4579 on January 26, 2016, 02:06:30 PM
What happened to that 5 year deal where NXWM only brought ADL buses?
Been explained somewhere on the forum - it wasn't an exclusive deal just with ADL. NX are free to buy other manufacturer's buses as well.
Quote from: don on January 26, 2016, 02:25:22 PM
The Go Ahead Metrobus Hybrids (WHV class) (Gemini 3) have the angular front.
It seems there are two Gemini 3 body designs, the 'Nokia' style (but an updated version) and the very angular jaunty StreetDeck look.
Quote from: 2900 on January 25, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Volvo B5TL using mcv bodies
Get the filler out.... ;)
Cracking looking bus, Crimson seems to really suit it. Must make a trip down once its out in service...
If it's a merc engine I hope it's got fire suppression equipment fitted
You know what pensnetts track record is with Mercs
Where are the fire stations on the nine route just in case other than Stourbridge?
Putting it on 246 might be a safer bet fire station up Dudley in brierley hill half way and down Stourbridge
Quote from: karl724223 on January 26, 2016, 03:53:30 PM
If it's a merc engine I hope it's got fire suppression equipment fitted
You know what pensnetts track record is with Mercs
Where are the fire stations on the nine route just in case other than Stourbridge?
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Id like to see an mmc with a Volvo engine
Quote from: BU07 LGO on January 26, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
Id like to see an mmc with a Volvo engine
Go to London or Scotland
Streetdeck uses the same suspension and chassis as the borismaster , it al so uses a 5 litre Daimler 4 cylinder twin turbo engine mounted inline not transversely as is common these days so no angle drive , first bus engineers like it great access all round the engine , according to route one the radiators are mounted above the engine and have free air flow apparently the best out there.
Wrightbus wanted to use the Daimler engine in the borismaster but wasn't ready at the time and settled for the cummins lump.
Looks tiny from the front, seems to drive ok from what I saw
Quote from: pndriver on January 27, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Looks tiny from the front
Funnily enough my mrs said the same thing but its alright when it gets going
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 27, 2016, 07:30:56 PM
Funnily enough my mrs said the same thing but its alright when it gets going
LMFAO
@Liverpool Street, i was hoping that it would have the glass window staircase. But hey if more streetdecks coming maybe :)
Quote from: Chris on January 27, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
LMFAO @Liverpool Street, i was hoping that it would have the glass window staircase. But hey if more streetdecks coming maybe :)
I don't want people seeing me being clumsy on the staircase.
Perhaps it should be classified as a 'CRD4'? :-)
Quote from: Chris on January 27, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
LMFAO @Liverpool Street, i was hoping that it would have the glass window staircase. But hey if more streetdecks coming maybe :)
In the event that NXWM did ever order any of these I suspect they wouldn't have the glass staircase. Unlike some operators who have moved away from external advertising on buses (many Go Ahead companies for example) NXWM are heavily into it as a source of revenue. The glass staircase does limit the advertising that can go on that side of the bus, and rules out T frame adverts.
Quote from: Mike K on January 27, 2016, 09:53:04 PM
In the event that NXWM did ever order any of these I suspect they wouldn't have the glass staircase. Unlike some operators who have moved away from external advertising on buses (many Go Ahead companies for example) NXWM are heavily into it as a source of revenue. The glass staircase does limit the advertising that can go on that side of the bus, and rules out T frame adverts.
I agree with you - this new fashion for glazed staircases also seems to have started with NBFL - they seem to have offset the reduction in advertising area by the novel solution of making the small length adverts illuminated - except such things were commonplace elsewhere in the country 50 years ago - the ones on Midland Red D9s were notable for draining the bus electrics on occasion resulting in fail to start at a terminus!! Not sure how London's new ones fare - they have their own problems with batteries but no doubt unrelated.
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 24, 2016, 09:44:41 PM
@Liverpool Street
;) Haha - Know what you mean! Rather interesting when riding an E400 (63 reg) with GoAhead - same ZF gearbox except very good on accelerating - all to do with the gearbox setup really.
Haven't heard a ZF Streetdeck - but the Voiths are pretty good - I know Brighton's versions were slow up hills though but that may've been improved in the latest versions.
There is no such thing as a ZF-equipped StreetDeck. Voith is the only gearbox option, at least for now, although Wrights have been/are working on getting an EcoLife into it, along with a Daimler G90 automated 'box.
The Brighton Streetdecks had their engine management systems (or whatever) reconfigured to overcome initial problems climbing hills.
Next stop announcements are still deemed to be too quiet on the Coaster Streetdecks so one is having the loudspeakers attached to the backs of grills rather than the bodywork in an attempt to overcome this challenge. Unlikely to be a problem on NX non Platinum buses.
NX buses seem to advertise films on their sides at the moment and very few car ads. I saw a 50 before Christmas with an ad on the back saying HIV test week, makes a change to have STD ads on outside of buses!
Now at Pensnett
Extract from this weeks email
Quote from: filbus1 on January 29, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
So why no reports
Maybe nobody is particularly bothered??!!
We don't want the place over run with school kids
Quote from: karl724223 on January 29, 2016, 08:29:25 PM
We don't want the place over run with school kids
Surprised they never realised.
No need to invade the garage, it's being kept out of view
It will come out when it comes out!
Quote from: filbus1 on January 29, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
So why no reports
Does its every movement really need to be reported? I'm sure someone will say when its out in service. That's all it needs.
Type training drivers starts next week
Quote from: filbus1 on January 29, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
So why no reports
I was sent a photo on Wednesday showing it parked up at PN. I didn't really feel it needed reporting on here.
Although for anyone interested in 3301, a comment left on a Facebook group suggests it won't be out in service for another couple of weeks? (I'm not stating it as fact, just relaying a comment i read)
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2016, 09:13:37 PM
I was sent a photo on Wednesday showing it parked up at PN. I didn't really feel it needed reporting on here.
Although for anyone interested in 3301, a comment left on a Facebook group suggests it won't be out in service for another couple of weeks? (I'm not stating it as fact, just relaying a comment i read)
Too be honest I have had lots of reports off friends in NXWM about it but said nothing. I just thought some people may be interested
I've had a mad brain wave.
ADL only have an exclusive deal with NX West Midlands I'm guessing that excludes NX Coventry and Dundee?
If so who is to say an order for Street decks doesn't get made from NXC or D and they get swapped with the same amount of E400 MMC's which would then mean NXWM get other makes to garages in WM or have I been on some American high stuff feed to me by my employer again.
Quote from: tank90 on January 30, 2016, 10:49:41 PM
I've had a mad brain wave.
ADL only have an exclusive deal with NX West Midlands I'm guessing that excludes NX Coventry and Dundee?
If so who is to say an order for Street decks doesn't get made from NXC or D and they get swapped with the same amount of E400 MMC's which would then mean NXWM get other makes to garages in WM or have I been on some American high stuff feed to me by my employer again.
Tbh, how does the deal work? Is it that NX can only buy from ADL for the next few years, or an x amount built exclusively by ADL. For example, say NX ordered 500 buses over the next few years, would the 'exclusive' part just mean that the deal is for that total? If the latter is correct, there is nothing stopping NX sourcing extra buses from other manufacturers?
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2016, 10:58:02 PM
Tbh, how does the deal work? Is it that NX can only buy from ADL for the next few years, or an x amount built exclusively by ADL. For example, say NX ordered 500 buses over the next few years, would the 'exclusive' part just mean that the deal is for that total? If the latter is correct, there is nothing stopping NX sourcing extra buses from other manufacturers?
NX can buy whatever they want, it was an exclusive £100m deal to purchase 600 buses from ADL
Quote from: pndriver on January 30, 2016, 11:17:52 PM
NX can buy whatever they want, it was an exclusive £100m deal to purchase 600 buses from ADL
So basicially so this exclusive deal isn't mentioned again. It meant that it was an exclusive deal for 100 million so saving nx money in the long run if they brought buses in separate batches yearly
If it was exclusive to adl buses, this streetdeck wouldn't of been made for nx...
Quote from: pndriver on January 30, 2016, 11:17:52 PM
NX can buy whatever they want, it was an exclusive £100m deal to purchase 600 buses from ADL
As i thought.... Thanks for clarifying.
isn't this streetdeck a seed vehicle? maybe its wrights way of offering a vehicle to nx for them to evaluate and compare so next time around, they hope it might land them a deal. anyhow if nx entered an agreement with adl for x amount of vehicles for x amount of money, as long as both sides honour it, whats stopping either going elsewhere.
3301 turned right out of Standhills Road into Bromley Lane at 0900 hrs. Possibly heading towards Stourbridge?
Maybe going stourbrige for typetraining
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 02, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
Maybe going stourbrige for typetraining
It was due to be stationed at Stourbridge yesterday for type training. From what I was told, it wasn't there yesterday so they must be doing the type training today.
It'll be in Stourbridge between 9:30 and 13:00 for type training
It is there parked up in layover bay inside the bus station
Nice smooth comfortable ride as a passenger and as a driver, it's a lot more powerful than the mmc's are pulling out onto Stourbridge ringroad. Nice sized steering wheel, very basic cab layout but nice and warm inside.
Will it be in dudley this week
How is PN enjoying its Streetdeck? Has it made its maiden passenger journey
Quote from: Chris on February 11, 2016, 07:03:33 PM
How is PN enjoying its Streetdeck? Has it made its maiden passenger journey
Trident covering for it today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 11, 2016, 07:20:59 PM
Trident covering for it today
how can a trident cover for it when it's not being booked out for service yet ?
I interpreted the thread remark as banter :o lol
Quote from: monkeyjoe on February 11, 2016, 09:20:05 PM
I interpreted the thread remark as banter :o lol
Problem is there aren't enough E400MMCs for the 9!
It's waiting for its brothers and sister to come
Quote from: karl724223 on February 11, 2016, 09:26:05 PM
It's waiting for its brothers and sister to come
3302-3306?
Quote from: Chris on February 11, 2016, 09:29:16 PM
3302-3306?
Why would NE have ordered any when they haven't even evaluated this one yet?
Maybe
@karl724223 was dropping a hint?
Quote from: karl724223 on February 11, 2016, 09:26:05 PM
It's waiting for its brothers and sister to come
Some members will be happy...... Male buses 8)
:o are they for the new 297 I wonder........ :-X
Someone said that the streetdeck has to
Go away to have sone work done on it anyone know
what this is & how long it will take
Quote from: Solo1 on February 12, 2016, 08:37:03 AM
Someone said that the streetdeck has to
Go away to have sone work done on it anyone know
what this is & how long it will take
Mercedes came yesterday, currently on the 9
@Tony Will the streetdeck be doing city back to stourbridge around 5ish
Quote from: Chris on February 12, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
@Tony Will the streetdeck be doing city back to stourbridge around 5ish
It is just leaving City now, still not tracking properly, but if it is on the board I suspect it is it will do the 17:56 & 20:23 departures from Colmore Row
Thank you
@Tony just as i am passing through birmingham on my way back from Walsgrave
It did 16:10 9 from Halesowen to Stourbridge. Hope it helps
No branding
Was booked off at garage at 1938
Passengers on the 9 must feel spoiled, first the MMCs now this !
Saw it about 08:00 at Belle Vale this morning heading to Stourbridge.
Morning everyone.
Is 3301 out on 9 today?
Not been allocated to any running boards according to the allocation sheet
Do the garage have to fit the tv for cctv their self because on Tonys picture of it inside it has not got but the pictures of seen from yesterday have
Parked up in Stourbridge Bus Station, on Foster Street
Just left on the 9. On it to Halesowen
Quote from: John on February 13, 2016, 11:09:52 AM
Parked up in Stourbridge Bus Station, on Foster Street
Just left on the 9. On it to Halesowen
What's the ride like
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 13, 2016, 01:21:29 PM
What's the ride like
Currently on a Streetdeck on the 376 from Wells to Bristol and the ride is pretty good, and it is making short work of the hills around here. Quite a nice vehicle.
It's a very nice ride. Got on it from Stourbridge to Halesowen and from Bearwood back to Stourbridge.
For those who still want it, it's just left Stourbridge, and has one round trip left, back to garage from Stourbridge just before 4pm
Last departure from Colemore Row is 14:38. Arrives into Stourbridge at 15:43 before running Dead to PN.
Certainly doesn't rattle much as the mmc, handles hills quite well. Hope they get some more
I wonder what the chances of 3301 being used today is.
Quote from: WN on February 14, 2016, 07:46:59 AM
I wonder what the chances of 3301 being used today is.
Slim, it was parked behind a load of buses last night. Not many of them move on a Sunday.
Just been to depot and 3301 is right at the back surrounded by 3 enviros and 4319 and 6120
Quote from: RS on February 14, 2016, 11:51:03 AM
Just been to depot and 3301 is right at the back surrounded by 3 enviros and 4319 and 6120
And how have you managed to see fleet numbers ?
Someone on my Facebook page has claimed they saw this bus at Yardley Wood early on Wednesday morning, any truth?
Quote from: Stu on February 14, 2016, 03:43:38 PM
Someone on my Facebook page has claimed they saw this bus at Yardley Wood early on Wednesday morning, any truth?
Last Wednesday (10th Feb) 3301 did not even get out the garage gates at pensnett
Quote from: pndriver on February 14, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
And how have you managed to see fleet numbers ?
I was allowed to visit
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2016, 04:02:02 PM
Last Wednesday (10th Feb) 3301 did not even get out the garage gates at pensnett
Cheers Tony, I didn't believe it myself. ;)
Quote from: RS on February 14, 2016, 05:13:03 PM
I was allowed to visit
I must ask how you get these visits, as I for the life can't !
Quote from: Stu on February 14, 2016, 03:43:38 PM
Someone on my Facebook page has claimed they saw this bus at Yardley Wood early on Wednesday morning, any truth?
Maybe it was a Enviro 400MMC he saw?
Did RS come to AG a while back and take a photo with an MMC with the route manager of the 11.
Quote from: MW on February 14, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
Did RS come to AG a while back and take a photo with an MMC with the route manager of the 11.
I always thought a garage has a single Route Manager, didn't know some routes have their own !
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 14, 2016, 06:38:47 PM
I always thought a garage has a single Route Manager, didn't know some routes have their own !
He might mean the road rep, each rota has a road rep who airs concerns from drivers to the union rep.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 14, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
I must ask how you get these visits, as I for the life can't !
everybody else would like to know as well
Quote from: WN on February 14, 2016, 06:48:52 PM
He might mean the road rep, each rota has a road rep who airs concerns from drivers to the union rep.
No, I mean the route manager for the Outer Circle. There's also one AVL guy, supported by two inspectors all for the Outer Circle. Everything else is managed by the rest of traffic office.
Will 3301 be out today please?
It was parked in garage yesterday wth a detective sticker on it.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on February 16, 2016, 09:21:35 AM
Will 3301 be out today please?
Didn't come out yesterday, and not out yet today, less buses needed during half term, so chance for more training on it
Is this so it can operate on more bus routes? If needed
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 16, 2016, 10:18:10 AM
Is this so it can operate on more bus routes? If needed
I think he's referring to the drivers
Trident on 9 again today though
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 16, 2016, 01:15:46 PM
Trident on 9 again today though
Quote from: WN on February 16, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
It was parked in garage yesterday wth a detective sticker on it.
You do know they can't send a defective bus out!
Quote from: WN on February 16, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
You do know they can't send a defective bus out!
I don't know what your problem is, but yes i do know they can't send defective busesout😡
@WN @Trident 4194 - You can both pack it in with the petty comments, if don't agree or can't get on, ignore each other! Winston
Quote from: WN on February 16, 2016, 09:29:53 AM
It was parked in garage yesterday wth a detective sticker on it.
Perhaps it was on a Sherlock Holmes duty!
Quote from: Stevo on February 16, 2016, 05:15:27 PM
Perhaps it was on a Sherlock Holmes duty!
Could be Poirot as well! lol
Having been on it, I can confirm it's a "cracker" of a bus.
Detective Columbo the greatest , joking aside the streetdeck seems favourable from a passenger point of view it seems.
Quote from: 2900 on February 17, 2016, 10:41:41 AM
Detective Columbo the greatest , joking aside the streetdeck seems favourable from a passenger point of view it seems.
That's because it's a proper sturdy Not Adl bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 17, 2016, 10:51:04 AM
That's because it's a proper sturdy Volvo bus
Volvo really???
There's no Volvo bits on a Streetdeck! It's a complete Wrightbus product with Daimler engine
I quite like the look of it.
Does anybody know if they will get any more and if so will they go to PN or another garage?
It just left Stourbridge
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 17, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
I quite like the look of it.
Does anybody know if they will get any more and if so will they go to PN or another garage?
As the bus is on a long term trial and has hardly been in full service, nobody will have made a decision on buying more, never mind which depot they they would be allocated to.
Quote from: Bryan on February 18, 2016, 07:23:43 AM
As the bus is on a long term trial and has hardly been in full service, nobody will have made a decision on buying more, never mind which depot they they would be allocated to.
Quite permanent actually. It's a seed vehicle, like 4697 or 4698. ;) More of an evaluation really. And who knows, with the Streetdeck's fleetnumber at 3301, I think it may be suggesting that NX may think into investing in some?
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on February 17, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
Does anybody know if they will get any more and if so will they go to PN or another garage?
There are rumours thar PN are having 5 more for a new service from Stourbridge to Birmingham
Quote from: WN on February 18, 2016, 08:09:43 AM
There are rumours thar PN are having 5 more for a new service from Stourbridge to Birmingham
Interesting,
Quote from: WN on February 18, 2016, 08:09:43 AM
There are rumours thar PN are having 5 more for a new service from Stourbridge to Birmingham
The rumour is not true before we start another 26 pages of Pensnett rubbish
Does any one know the next time it will be at bearwood towards brum many thanks jack
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 18, 2016, 09:02:05 AM
Does any one know the next time it will be at bearwood towards brum many thanks jack
It is not in service and is back in Pensnett garage. It did go to Stourbridge this morning, so that posting was correct
I was thinking IF... They did have any more street decks, they could be used as platinum buses, as first have got leather seating and platinum benefits in their streetdecks
Currently in Edgbaston
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2016, 03:25:10 PM
Currently in Edgbaston
Am I right in thinking it's going onto the 120 ?
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2016, 03:25:10 PM
Currently in Edgbaston
What time will it arrive in Stourbridge
Climbs city road well I've heard
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2016, 08:18:30 PM
Not part of 9 route?
Wasn't on the 9 it did an 829, 120E & 120
Quote from: pndriver on February 18, 2016, 08:17:41 PM
Climbs city road well I've heard
Don't be silly! - all the 'haters' have been saying they don't do hills.
Quote from: pndriver on February 18, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Wasn't on the 9 it did an 829, 120E & 120
It wouldn't have done the 829
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
Don't be silly! - all the 'haters' have been saying they don't do hills.
The haters have said they climb hills better than mmcs
Quote from: 2206 on February 18, 2016, 08:24:33 PM
It wouldn't have done the 829
Well what would have usually been the 829 then. Left Pensnett about 10 - 15 minutes after Tony did. I assume it ran private to ivy bush and did a 9 into city then
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2016, 08:26:38 PM
The haters have said they climb hills better than mmcs
Hope they pull away quicker than the E400s.
Out today on 9. Heading to city @ 07.29 by morrisons 5 ways
Quote from: 37351ml on February 19, 2016, 07:41:18 AM
Out today on 9. Heading to city @ 07.29 by morrisons 5 ways
As long as no-one breaks it, it should operate the 10:19; 12:34; 14:49 & 17:26 journies from Colmore Row
The tracking equipment is now working on it as well, so should show up on realt time displays
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2016, 08:21:15 AM
As long as no-one breaks it, it should operate the 10:19; 12:34; 14:49 & 17:26 journies from Colmore Row
The tracking equipment is now working on it as well, so should show up on realt time displays
Thanks Tony for times
gonna try and photograph and possibly ride it on 10:19
Rode 3301 on 10:19 9 from city - Stourbridge
Very nice bus , quiet and very nice crimson design for it.
Any idea if it'll be out tomorrow (Saturday)?
Just passed 3301 after Quinton Island "not in service"
Quote from: Chris on February 20, 2016, 12:36:28 PM
Just passed 3301 after Quinton Island "not in service"
help if you said which way it was going
Sorry towards birmingham
Changed over due to a teething problem
Quote from: pndriver on February 20, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
Changed over due to a teething problem
Braking issue I've heard.
Quote from: WN on February 20, 2016, 05:37:56 PM
Braking issue I've heard.
Things are hardly going well for PEs new incumbent!
Just a basic teething issue - typical of any new fleet member.
Half term must have finished! nobody asking where 3301 is for two days.
It is out on the 9 today and if it survives the day will be out until nearly midnight
Tony you,ve probably just jinxed yourself there come3:30pm there will barrage of messages where is 3301
Might be on a different board now relief driver hadn't been trained on it. It left stourbridge around 14:30ish
Quote from: pndriver on February 23, 2016, 02:58:18 PM
Might be on a different board now relief driver hadn't been trained on it. It left stourbridge around 14:30ish
It is
15:41 & 18:19 from Birmingham and back to depot now
I travelled on 3301 this afternoon from Colmore Row to Halesowen and was quite impressed. The finish is of the usual high standard produced by Wright and the engine seemed quieter and smoother running than the rival 4 cylinder ones.
The engine seemed powerful enough for the hill climbs but a bit slow pulling away from stops until it had built up revs in first gear. This seems to me to be the case with all of the smaller engines. The door interlock seemed to take a long time to release, a problem which also affects the Scanias.
I made the same journey. The gearbox changes up very early, doubtless to save fuel. But from a standing start it got into top gear climbing Drews Holloway. Now that's just showing off! The only downside was rattling and squeaking panels - downstairs at the back the bodywork had a surprising amount of movement on bumpy roads. Still, most impressed - more please!
Quote from: Stevo on February 23, 2016, 10:10:27 PM
I made the same journey. The gearbox changes up very early, doubtless to save fuel. But from a standing start it got into top gear climbing Drews Holloway. Now that's just showing off! The only downside was rattling and squeaking panels - downstairs at the back the bodywork had a surprising amount of movement on bumpy roads. Still, most impressed - more please!
Driven like a manual it drives perfectly, same as the B7's.
Quote from: pndriver on February 23, 2016, 10:35:13 PM
Driven like a manual it drives perfectly, same as the B7's.
I've been intrigued by your signatures, pndriver, so I put the latest version into Google translate:
"It's just a red bus"
I thought the previous one was an example of the garbage that 4428 displays in the second line of its destination display.
Posts about 3301 have gone quiet lately. Is it in full regular service now? I am hoping to visit the West Midlands shortly, and would like a trip on it.
Just had a ride on it from Five Ways (1015) to Stourbridge. Very impressed.
Quote from: Tiptonian on February 29, 2016, 11:48:48 AM
Posts about 3301 have gone quiet lately. Is it in full regular service now? I am hoping to visit the West Midlands shortly, and would like a trip on it.
Yes, its usually on the 9.
Fantastic bus. Would be nice of NX starts replacing the old DDs with these ones.
Thank you for the replies. I look forward to being down there very soon. :)
Anyone seen 3301 today ?? ??? 8)
Last seen on tow with rs
Quote from: karl724223 on March 07, 2016, 05:43:31 PM
Last seen on tow with rs
Spent around 5 hours on stand h in Stourbridge
where is 3301 most likely to be ?
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on March 11, 2016, 01:17:59 PM
where is 3301 most likely to be ?
If out more than likely on the 9 as that is essentially where 3301 is supposed to be being assessed on
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on March 11, 2016, 01:17:59 PM
where is 3301 most likely to be ?
if it's not at garage it's on the nine
If it's not on the nine it's at garage
99999999999999999999999999999999999
3301 on 9 left Halesowen for bham 16:30
Also a Worcester streetlite was in Halesowen at same time, looking good together
Quote from: karl724223 on March 11, 2016, 01:39:32 PM
if it's not at garage it's on the nine
If it's not on the nine it's at garage
99999999999999999999999999999999999
Was on the 205 the other day though!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 11, 2016, 05:17:16 PM
Was on the 205 the other day though!
Was the board that starts at garage does a 205 to kford then private to Stourbridge to start on the 9
9 today,left colmore row 08.45
After driving this bus for the second time in service today all I can say is wow. It is far more superior than the MMC's. Feels more powerful, smooth acceleration. Brakes take a bit of getting used to but you have more control over slowing down and stopping. The interlock all be it a puzzle is actually quite quick to get off and faster than the MMC's. It is by far the best bus I have ever had the pleasure to drive, if it were up to me I would replace the whole Pensnett fleet with these.
The only thing I liked about the MMC's was the heating system , it warms up fast......... That is nothing compared to 3301, turn the heating up full in this and it's like being in Barbados. Fuel consumption wise, I'd say it's pretty good. Having left the garage this morning with 100% it still had 61% left when I handed over to my relief not long ago. Unfortunately my relief driver wasn't type trained and has now gone back to garage with 4193 taking its place.
Overall 10/10
@pndriver... wow, that much of an impression, huh?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on March 15, 2016, 10:24:13 PM
@pndriver... wow, that much of an impression, huh?
Yeah, it's got a whine like a metrobus when you slow down too
Quote from: pndriver on March 16, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
Yeah, it's got a whine like a metrobus when you slow down too
I'd say more E200.
Quote from: pndriver on March 16, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
Yeah, it's got a whine like a metrobus when you slow down too
Definite whiff of Metrobus to it
@pndriver
The Streetdeck has been having a change of scenery on the 246 today
Oh my it strayed lol.
Still on the 246 now just seen it at Dudley bus station
Does the streetdeck come out on sundays?
Quote from: Chris on March 26, 2016, 08:21:30 PM
Does the streetdeck come out on sundays?
Been off the road for a few days, so I doubt it'll be out this Sunday
Quote from: pndriver on March 26, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Been off the road for a few days, so I doubt it'll be out this Sunday
in dead box vid
I managed to travel to Stourbridge and back today on 3301. It seems to have plenty of power to tackle the hills, which shows the progress made in engine and transmission during the past 20 years when you consider that the engine is smaller than the late unlamented Volvo B6.,
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
Quote from: 2900 on April 07, 2016, 10:34:12 AM
One thing Daimler Mercedes Benz are good at is producing excellent Diesel engines, I do miss the sound of the 0405n for all its faults you couldn't knock that 12 litre engine.
until it cought fire
Hasn't it got adverts on?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 10, 2016, 08:50:17 AM
No.
I think it has advertisements on the sides. I'm sure it had one yesterday when I saw it.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 10, 2016, 08:57:58 AM
I think it has advertisements on the sides. I'm sure it had one yesterday when I saw it.
Didn't have anything Tuesday and Thursday.
It has one on the nearside, but doesn't have the securing nut on the offside frame. (The circular object in the middle of the long panel). Not sure if that is why it hasn't yet had an offside advert fitted yet though
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 10, 2016, 09:02:40 AM
Didn't have anything Tuesday and Thursday.
Yesterday it did. One of the adverts were for the new film "Eye In The Sky".
I encountered this vehicle for the first time yesterday evening in Colmore Row at 7.15.
I was taking the air by the Cathedral (ok, I'd just left the pub) and it decanted passengers, so I had a long admiring look at it. I really am impressed, and crimson really does suit the shape.
Marvellous.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 26, 2016, 10:15:54 AM
I encountered this vehicle for the first time yesterday evening in Colmore Row at 7.15.
I was taking the air by the Cathedral (ok, I'd just left the pub) and it decanted passengers, so I had a long admiring look at it. I really am impressed, and crimson really does suit the shape.
Marvellous.
I fell on it today (in the 'basher' sense of the word) as it was the next bus to show up at Halesowen. Design-wise, it doesn't float my boat but I'll happily give it 11 out of 10 for the livery alone. It's got adequate grunt however, cresting the various grades with ease & only reverting to a single upshift in the process.
In fact, I was so unexpectedly taken with the experience that I had to bale out en-route for a quiet stroll along the Harborne branch to clear my head!
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on April 27, 2016, 12:13:17 AM
I fell on it today (in the 'basher' sense of the word) as it was the next bus to show up at Halesowen. Design-wise, it doesn't float my boat but I'll happily give it 11 out of 10 for the livery alone. It's got adequate grunt however, cresting the various grades with ease & only reverting to a single upshift in the process.
In fact, I was so unexpectedly taken with the experience that I had to bale out en-route for a quiet stroll along the Harborne branch to clear my head!
Fantastic! Hope you didn't fall into the canal navigations at the town end, in your delirium.
Haven't seen the Street deck in a while, how's it compared to the MMCs
3301 was heading in to Kings Heath on Vicarage road around 07:24.
Quote from: Ronnoc on May 19, 2016, 07:48:33 AM
3301 was heading in to Kings Heath on Vicarage road around 07:24.
Going to AG for recruitment drive.
is 3301 a demonstrator bus.
When they are all delivered and on the road all five buses will be on the 9 to go against the mmc so both bus types can be tested against each other on the same route
Quote from: karl724223 on June 21, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
When they are all delivered and on the road all five buses will be on the 9 to go against the mmc so both bus types can be tested against each other on the same route
I was told the 129 by a few people.
Quote from: Dom on June 21, 2016, 04:26:41 PM
I was told the 129 by a few people.
you was told wrong
Quote from: karl724223 on June 21, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
When they are all delivered and on the road all five buses will be on the 9 to go against the mmc so both bus types can be tested against each other on the same route
I've had the same thing confirmed to me. I've also been told allocation's for the new Platinum's have been decided.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 21, 2016, 04:42:21 PM
I've had the same thing confirmed to me. I've also been told allocation's for the new Platinum's have been decided.
Looks like this meeting I've been invited to on 4th July is a waste of time then
2016 New Bus Allocation and Cascades
Agenda:
1. Current PVRs.
2. Planned changes to PVRs.
3. Allocation of new vehicles and cascade plan.
When
Mon 4 Jul 2016 1pm – 2pm Bordesley 1st floor meeting room
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
Looks like this meeting I've been invited to on 4th July is a waste of time then
2016 New Bus Allocation and Cascades
Agenda:
1. Current PVRs.
2. Planned changes to PVRs.
3. Allocation of new vehicles and cascade plan.
When
Mon 4 Jul 2016 1pm – 2pm Bordesley 1st floor meeting room
So following that meeting will you be able to tell us what is going on?
Quote from: Dom on June 21, 2016, 05:47:22 PM
So following that meeting will you be able to tell us what is going on?
Following that meeting I will know what is going on, being able to tell everyone is another thing altogether. I've a good idea anyway as I've compiled the cascade plan that will either be approved or thrown out, but because of SQPS I am fairly confident that most of my plan will be what actually happens, although even then most of the plan is just 'x Vehicle type A from garage 1 to garage 2' not specific fleetnumbers
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 05:57:23 PM
Following that meeting I will know what is going on, being able to tell everyone is another thing altogether. I've a good idea anyway as I've compiled the cascade plan that will either be approved or thrown out, but because of SQPS I am fairly confident that most of my plan will be what actually happens, although even then most of the plan is just 'x Vehicle type A from garage 1 to garage 2' not specific fleetnumbers
Thanks for answering Tony. Much appreciated. I guess you can't be that specific at this point of anything could happen to one of the specific fleet numbers you have down to move.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 21, 2016, 04:42:21 PM
I've had the same thing confirmed to me. I've also been told allocation's for the new Platinum's have been decided.
so let us all know then don't state the obvious 126 and X10
Or can't you tell anybody yet ??
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 05:57:23 PM
Following that meeting I will know what is going on, being able to tell everyone is another thing altogether. I've a good idea anyway as I've compiled the cascade plan that will either be approved or thrown out, but because of SQPS I am fairly confident that most of my plan will be what actually happens, although even then most of the plan is just 'x Vehicle type A from garage 1 to garage 2' not specific fleetnumbers
then we will have 100 s of pages of guesses of tridents going to ?? Geminis going to ?? Presidents to pensnett death row
Suspect it will be the same corridors getting the investment as per usual. Since moving to London you see a lot more distribution of investment of guess because of the system they have down here and not a near monopoly of one operator. I could be wrong though.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 21, 2016, 07:37:22 PM
Suspect it will be the same corridors getting the investment as per usual. Since moving to London you see a lot more distribution of investment of guess because of the system they have down here and not a near monopoly of one operator. I could be wrong though.
So when was the 126 last given new buses?
So when was the 529 last given new buses?
So when was the 141 (X10) last given new buses?
and those are the only three so far announced
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 07:41:19 PM
So when was the 126 last given new buses?
So when was the 529 last given new buses?
So when was the 141 (X10) last given new buses?
and those are the only three so far announced
126 2004?
529 pass?
141 2009?
bet that plan means that although 126 and 529 get investment, the rest of the routes suffer as I bet wn loose their newest tridents in exchange for older ones
Quote from: BN on June 21, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
126 2004?
529 pass?
141 2009?
I think the last new buses on the 529 were the very first Tridents 4125 onwards
Quote from: mranon on June 21, 2016, 07:47:12 PM
bet that plan means that although 126 and 529 get investment, the rest of the routes suffer as I bet wn loose their newest tridents in exchange for older ones
Wolverhampton's 'newest' tridents are 13 years old, hardly spring of youth when NX's average life span is 17 years
Quote from: BN on June 21, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
126 2004?
529 pass?
141 2009?
Well technically the 141 was the 99 then, but yeah, you're right.
If memory serves me well, East Birmingham received 2 new batches of buses in 3 years. B7RLE and E200
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 21, 2016, 08:15:07 PM
Well technically the 141 was the 99 then, but yeah, you're right.
If memory serves me well, East Birmingham received 2 new batches of buses in 3 years. B7RLE and E200
And the 900/957 platinums
94 / 1999 then 2002 then re hashed 2003 buses which it uses now
Other corridors every 2 years or 4 etc. Real great distribution of investment of resources. Said it before and my opinion ( it just being an opinion will not change).
Had to get that one out not said it for a while.
Should the topic title be changed to 'Wrightbus Streetdecks 3301-3305' and hope the PN thread doesnt get the usual 20 pages of 'Is 3302 out today' or '3303 seen on colmore row at 9:28' or maybe '3302 broken down on manor way'
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 07:41:19 PM
So when was the 126 last given new buses?
So when was the 529 last given new buses?
So when was the 141 (X10) last given new buses?
and those are the only three so far announced
Forgot to answer that above, all after my ex local routes were.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 21, 2016, 11:11:54 PM
Forgot to answer that above, all after my ex local routes were.
Wrong
94 had new buses 3 years after 529,
71/72 last year
Quote from: karl724223 on June 21, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
When they are all delivered and on the road all five buses will be on the 9 to go against the mmc so both bus types can be tested against each other on the same route
will the spare mmc be going on x10 or any service from pensnett
Quote from: karl724223 on June 21, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
When they are all delivered and on the road all five buses will be on the 9 to go against the mmc so both bus types can be tested against each other on the same route
I dont get this bit, I understand the logic of comparing vehicle types but isn't that the whole point of acquiring 3301 and putting it on the 9 to see how it fares against MMCs ? How does having another 4 vehicles (Unless they arrive modified) make any distinctions between the types clearer ?
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on June 22, 2016, 06:35:03 AM
I dont get this bit, I understand the logic of comparing vehicle types but isn't that the whole point of acquiring 3301 and putting it on the 9 to see how it fares against MMCs ? How does having another 4 vehicles (Unless they arrive modified) make any distinctions between the types clearer ?
I'm guessing, but 5 buses would give a better sample - where you're dealing with fuel consumption figures in the single figures, and availability figures/maintenance costs, marginal variation across vehicles could result in inaccurate information if only one vehicle is tested (against 22 in this case) - more vehicles would provide more conclusive results and a more sound investment case.
Presumably they'll monitor the performance of the 5 Wrights against 5 specific MMCs.
Quote from: don on June 22, 2016, 01:24:23 PM
I'm guessing, but 5 buses would give a better sample - where you're dealing with fuel consumption figures in the single figures, and availability figures/maintenance costs, marginal variation across vehicles could result in inaccurate information if only one vehicle is tested (against 22 in this case) - more vehicles would provide more conclusive results and a more sound investment case.
Presumably they'll monitor the performance of the 5 Wrights against 5 specific MMCs.
I'm assuming initial figures are positive from 3301 as they've bought 4 additional buses. 4698 was also a seed vehicle and it prompted an order of nearly 250 buses from ADL.
Assuming they're for the 9 it'll mean on the 9 will be a mix of streetdecks and branded MMC's which by extending that logic would mean more MMC's willl appear on other PN routes not that they don't anyway.
Popped round to PN as haven't been for a while, no sign yet of 3302 -5.
3302 has arrived.
Quote from: Dom on June 23, 2016, 09:02:34 PM
3302 has arrived.
Before 200 entries in the buses to find thread, it won't be in service for 8 days
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2016, 09:48:22 PM
Before 200 entries in the buses to find thread, it won't be in service for 8 days
To await the new month to tax it, sensible!
@Tony, are PN likely to loose 4 buses to make way for these Streetdecks?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 23, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
To await the new month to tax it, sensible!
@Tony, are PN likely to loose 4 buses to make way for these Streetdecks?
I would imagine so probably the older Tridents for example the 4190s batch
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 23, 2016, 11:09:52 PM
To await the new month to tax it, sensible!
@Tony, are PN likely to loose 4 buses to make way for these Streetdecks?
I'd imagine a number of systems would need to be installed as well such as wayfarer and CCTV although 8 day window period should allow for everything to make it an NX road worthy vehicle
Registrations are:-
3302 SL16 YPM
3303 SL16 YPN
3304 SL16 YPO
3305 SL16 YPP
Are we likely to be getting anymore of these?
Here we go on Facebook 3302 was spotted in Stourbridge yesterday
Quote from: dw1308 on June 24, 2016, 11:50:33 AM
Are we likely to be getting anymore of these?
Depends on if the Brexit makes northern Ireland reunite with southern Ireland.
Quote from: karl724223 on June 24, 2016, 07:43:54 PM
Here we go on Facebook 3302 was spotted in Stourbridge yesterday
It possibly was on the delivery run if the driver came off the M5 that way. When I track some vehicles coming back from repairs some drivers take some routes I wouldn't, but I think it is possible a satnav could send you from Heysham to Pensnett that way, I personally would have come off at J2. It hasn't got a tracker yet so cannot check
Quote from: dw1308 on June 24, 2016, 11:50:33 AM
Are we likely to be getting anymore of these?
No more currently on order after 3305
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2016, 10:52:23 AM
Registrations are:-
3302 SL16 YPM
3303 SL16 YPN
3304 SL16 YPO
3305 SL16 YPP
I like this one already and haven't seen it yet
Quote from: pndriver on June 24, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
I like this one already and haven't seen it yet
sli 6ypo
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 25, 2016, 12:07:04 AM
Took me a while to figure it out haha
Me too, haha. I had to ask a friend... :-[
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 25, 2016, 12:08:43 AM
Me too, haha. I had to ask a friend... :-[
I cant be the only one who doesn't get it :( !
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on June 25, 2016, 12:15:14 AM
I cant be the only one who doesn't get it :( !
Rose or Heather would be a good name for her
Quote from: pndriver on June 25, 2016, 12:58:57 AM
Rose or Heather would be a good name for her
Professional palm readers by all accounts
3303 https://www.flickr.com/photos/nsf323alistair/27817503831/in/album-72157669230350740/ (Not mine pic)
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on June 25, 2016, 12:15:14 AM
I cant be the only one who doesn't get it :( !
Sly Gypo,
As in gypsy
Has 3303 arrived?
4 parked at garage now, 3301, 3302, 3305 and one parked in dead box on far side
Quote from: pndriver on June 30, 2016, 02:38:54 PM
4 parked at garage now, 3301, 3302, 3305 and one parked in dead box on far side
3303 was there this morning
Before we have loads of buses to find 3302/5 very doubtful they will be out yet
Quote from this week's staff business brief
The four new Wrights Streetdeck buses have started to arrive at Pensnett this week following the trial of 3301, and will all be in service on the 9 from next week, as part of a long-term trial to see which manufacturer is best.
Thank you for sharing
@Tony, just out of curiosity which factors determine which is the better product, I'm guessing purely from a buissiness side it would be fuel consumption... Reliability ect...
Quote from: danny on July 01, 2016, 11:48:23 AM
Thank you for sharing @Tony, just out of curiosity which factors determine which is the better product, I'm guessing purely from a buissiness side it would be fuel consumption... Reliability ect...
Cost to purchase, whole life running costs as well as above
So if the Streetdecks are deemed to be the better buses all round, then in theory more Streetdecks would be ordered but would it be alongside or instead of the E400MMC's current contract/deal??
@Tony @Winston
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 01, 2016, 01:09:19 PM
So if the Streetdecks are deemed to be the better buses all round, then in theory more Streetdecks would be ordered but would it be alongside or instead of the E400MMC's current contract/deal?? @Tony @Winston
Yes, it makes sense to do that if they're getting their money's worth. I think 3301 gave a good initial impression and NX may be looking forward to a potentially sizable order if they're testing more Streetdecks
Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2016, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from this week's staff business brief
The four new Wrights Streetdeck buses have started to arrive at Pensnett this week following the trial of 3301, and will all be in service on the 9 from next week, as part of a long-term trial to see which manufacturer is best.
Interesting to see which way this goes. The Streetdeck seems very popular at the moment. Stagecoach aside (and they don't really count), there have been orders placed by a lot of major operators. Reading Buses, which has favoured ADL for deckers for the last few years have also placed an order for some Streetdecks this year. Seems ADL have got some strong competition on their hands.
Quote from: Mike K on July 01, 2016, 03:29:18 PM
Interesting to see which way this goes. The Streetdeck seems very popular at the moment. Stagecoach aside (and they don't really count), there have been orders placed by a lot of major operators. Reading Buses, which has favoured ADL for deckers for the last few years have also placed an order for some Streetdecks this year. Seems ADL have got some strong competition on their hands.
Indeed, 3301 has obviously impressed, and with 4 more vehicles it will indeed easier to judge them alongside the E400MMCs, and hopefully an order will follow for more of these vehicles as i think they look most impressive.
And likewise, if they fail to impress, NX could always sell them on while they still have any value!
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on July 01, 2016, 01:18:36 PM
Yes, it makes sense to do that if they're getting their money's worth. I think 3301 gave a good initial impression and NX may be looking forward to a potentially sizable order if they're testing more Streetdecks
Perhaps worth pointing out.
4697 was a seed vehicle, with 4777-4781 being ordered as a result, but that was it for Scania deckers
With the 5 streetdecks at pensnett will they have a launch at Victoria Square or just put the into service on the 9
Quote from: Solo1 on July 04, 2016, 01:40:36 PM
With the 5 streetdecks at pensnett will they have a launch at Victoria Square or just put the into service on the 9
Catch the Bus Week this week; NX are promoting some of their new buses (presumably Streetdecks) on Birmingham High Street (Bullring)
Quote from: clayderman on July 04, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Catch the Bus Week this week; NX are promoting some of their new buses (presumably Streetdecks) on Birmingham High Street (Bullring)
2202 is parked there (along with Arriva Streetlite 3301)
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
2202 is parked there (along with Arriva Streetlite 3301)
A shame.. On the other hand, the E200MMC is of great build, imo. :)
I wonder where 3302 is ????
Quote from: pndriver on July 05, 2016, 06:40:04 AM
I wonder where 3302 is ????
It fancied a day out so It's on the 9, currently in Birmingham ;)
3302 just got onto Colmore Row for anyone looking for it. ;)
Photo now on main site
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/3302.html
3303 just leaving garage as a replacement for 6101
Quote from: pndriver on July 05, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
3303 just leaving garage as a replacement for 6101
Won't do much
last journey on that running board is 19:02 from Birmingham, so just run dead half way down route, back to Stourbridge and garage!
3302 got the wrong ticket prices on the window it's the one from 2015 on there also no front fleet number
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2016, 07:07:34 PM
Won't do much
last journey on that running board is 19:02 from Birmingham, so just run dead half way down route, back to Stourbridge and garage!
Picked up service in Quinton.
Currently on 3302
11:10 City - Stourbridge
Update
Now on 3303 11:48 from Bearwood Interchange to City
So both are still out if you need photos
Are 3302/3303 still out tonight?
Quote from: Chris on July 06, 2016, 03:28:02 PM
Are 3302/3303 still out tonight?
If I've worked it out correctly 3302's last trip is 1928 from Birmingham and 3303's last trip is 2023 from Birmingham, only a rough estimate based of what has been said.
Quote from: Dom on July 06, 2016, 03:32:28 PM
If I've worked it out correctly 3302's last trip is 1928 from Birmingham and 3303's last trip is 2023 from Birmingham, only a rough estimate based of what has been said.
Way off, nearly an hour in each case!
3302 - 15:34, 18:04 and 20:23 off city
3303 - 16:34, 19:11, 21:15, 23:15 off city
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2016, 03:37:36 PM
Way off, nearly an hour in each case!
3302 - 15:34, 18:04 and 20:23 off city
3303 - 16:34, 19:11, 21:15, 23:15 off city
I got the fleetnumber mixed up for 3302 otherwise that is correct.
@Tony 3303 will also do the 1:00am from City
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2016, 03:37:36 PM
Way off, nearly an hour in each case!
3302 - 15:34, 18:04 and 20:23 off city
3303 - 16:34, 19:11, 21:15, 23:15 off city
Cheers
@Tony manage to get 3302 from Stourbridge
3302 is directly behind 3301 today. 3301 doing 12:16 from Stourbridge, 3302 doing 12:23
Quote from: 1907 on July 07, 2016, 12:27:49 PM
3302 is directly behind 3301 today. 3301 doing 12:16 from Stourbridge, 3302 doing 12:23
Yes was just going to say they are on consecutive departures.
As an aside, does anybody else feel that the Crimson livery is better suited to the Streetdecks than the E400MMCs?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 07, 2016, 01:16:37 PM
Yes was just going to say they are on consecutive departures.
As an aside, does anybody else feel that the Crimson livery is better suited to the Streetdecks than the E400MMCs?
Much better I feel.
3303 now on the 246
3304 should arrive tomorrow
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
3304 should arrive tomorrow
I assume this is 3304 still in Ireland as of sometime today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ulsterbusphotos/27540613263/
Quote from: Winston on July 07, 2016, 08:44:44 PM
I assume this is 3304 still in Ireland as of sometime today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ulsterbusphotos/27540613263/
Yes, due on the boat tonight and down to Pensnett tomorrow
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2016, 09:04:42 PM
Yes, due on the boat tonight and down to Pensnett tomorrow
you mean kingswinford garage
Quote from: karl724223 on July 07, 2016, 09:52:45 PM
you mean kingswinford garage
No one calls it that 😂😂😂
Quote from: karl724223 on July 07, 2016, 09:52:45 PM
you mean kingswinford garage
Kingswinford actually had a bus garage with belonged to Midland Red, long closed but the building is still there.
I am sitting on 3302 and have to say it has been a pleasant journey
3302 yesterday:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/27553443614/
3304 is now at kingswinford depot
Sli gypo
Quote from: karl724223 on July 08, 2016, 05:43:31 PM
3304 is now at kingswinford depot
Sli gypo
Was that the Midland Red facility used to store unlicensed coaches in the winter period?
I'm presuming the last bit is a type of rhyming slang ........ 😏
Quote from: don on July 08, 2016, 07:50:12 PM
Was that the Midland Red facility used to store unlicensed coaches in the winter period?
I'm presuming the last bit is a type of rhyming slang ........ 😏
No - it's the reg of 3304
SL16 YPO
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2016, 07:57:48 PM
No - it's the reg of 3304
SL16 YPO
Oh right.....got it.
I'm looking for 3302-5 today so if anyone sees them/knows what times they're off Birmingham could you please let me know. Thanks!
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 09, 2016, 07:40:20 AM
I'm looking for 3302-5 today so if anyone sees them/knows what times they're off Birmingham could you please let me know. Thanks!
3302 should be leaving garage soon I assume from where it is parked, 3305 parked in dead box with 3304 parked behind it
Quote from: pndriver on July 09, 2016, 07:52:49 AM
3302 should be leaving garage soon I assume from where it is parked, 3305 parked in dead box with 3304 parked behind it
Ok thanks is 3303 already out?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 09, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
Ok thanks is 3303 already out?
3303 left Halesowen around 10-15 minutes ago towards Birmingham.
Thanks to
@Nathan @John @Tony @Michael Bevan for helping me with 3302/3 today. Successfully photographed them both at Colmore Row on the 1301 and 1346 arrivals.
3301 is on the 246 but will be changed due to engineers wanting it at garage
3302 is in a position where it could easily leave the garage (if allocated/swapped with 3301)
3303 left garage towards Stourbridge at 0825
3304 didn't see this at garage, wasn't looking for it though
3305 still parked in dead box
Are 3304 and 3305 ready to roll yet?
3305 is out
3304 has been out for a run from garage to Stourbridge and back this morning
3304 and 3305 out for the first time this evening on the 9
Quote from: Tony on July 14, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
3304 and 3305 out for the first time this evening on the 9
Past three 9's which have left Colmore Row had been Streetdecks. Just gone past the second one, 3304. One of them are actually entering city now.
Quote from: Tony on July 14, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
3304 and 3305 out for the first time this evening on the 9
So I was the first pensnett driver to take it out the garage then, out the exit and back in the entrance to move it so a 222 could get out
Quote from: pndriver on July 14, 2016, 07:24:03 PM
So I was the first pensnett driver to take it out the garage then, out the exit and back in the entrance to move it so a 222 could get out
They both had test runs to Stourbridge and back first.
Quote from: Tony on July 14, 2016, 07:30:42 PM
They both had test runs to Stourbridge and back first.
he had to move it out the way so bus behind could get out as driver in the 222 hadn't been type trained
@pndriver playing 😂
Quote from: karl724223 on July 14, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
he had to move it out the way so bus behind could get out as driver in the 222 hadn't been type trained @pndriver playing 😂
Had just come out bus wash when I had to move it, even though I was only in it for less than 2 mins I still think they're the best buses we've got. Shame I couldn't take it out on the X96 this morning when I asked :-\
#MYBUS 8)
Quote from: pndriver on July 14, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
Had just come out bus wash when I had to move it, even though I was only in it for less than 2 mins I still think they're the best buses we've got. Shame I couldn't take it out on the X96 this morning when I asked :-\
#MYBUS 8)
At least it's not just me that thinks that the Streetdeck is a decent bus.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 14, 2016, 09:06:40 PM
At least it's not just me that thinks that the Streetdeck is a decent bus.
I think most on this forum agree that they're impressive. They look particularly smart the way the livery has been adapted slightly to suit the design.
I hope for future orders for more.
Quote from: Mike K on July 14, 2016, 09:57:41 PM
I think most on this forum agree that they're impressive. They look particularly smart the way the livery has been adapted slightly to suit the design.
I hope for future orders for more.
Shame NX won't opt for the staircase glazing options... Though, I guess provocatively dressed 'ladies' will be glad of it! :P
Surely NX will leave the streetdecksame any sort of branding free. They look better without it and shame that there's only 2 e400 mmcs completelying unbranded
Quote from: Chris on July 14, 2016, 10:41:49 PM
Surely NX will leave the streetdecksame any sort of branding free. They look better without it and shame that there's only 2 e400 mmcs completelying unbranded
I agree, they look better and they compliment the livery well
Quote from: Mike K on July 14, 2016, 09:57:41 PM
I think most on this forum agree that they're impressive. They look particularly smart the way the livery has been adapted slightly to suit the design.
I hope for future orders for more.
The people I've spoke to about them think I'm off me rocker for being a fan.
How about a Platinum Streetdeck?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 14, 2016, 11:56:35 PM
The people I've spoke to about them think I'm off me rocker for being a fan.
How about a Platinum Streetdeck?
???
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 14, 2016, 11:56:35 PM
The people I've spoke to about them think I'm off me rocker for being a fan.
How about a Platinum Streetdeck?
The angular styling of the Streetdeck isn't to everyone's taste, I must admit I wasn't keen originally, yet have been a fan of Wrightbus products for sometime. The livery & how it is applied to the Streetdeck has a big part to play in their appearance, the modified Crimson livery really works well, the NX example certainly look impressive.
Are 3304/5 out today ? If so what times are they due in City?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 15, 2016, 07:59:48 AM
Are 3304/5 out today ? If so what times are they due in City?
3304 in city now, 3305 tracking not working
Thanks Tony will look for 3304 later then.
Currently on 3305 just leaving the city... I already love these and not even got to broad Street... Smooth ride very airy interior... Engine is quiet yet still has a personality and the bus just looks fantastic, definitely on par visually with the mmc in my opinion.
Quote from: Winston on July 15, 2016, 12:21:33 AM
The angular styling of the Streetdeck isn't to everyone's taste, I must admit I wasn't keen originally, yet have been a fan of Wrightbus products for sometime. The livery & how it is applied to the Streetdeck has a big part to play in their appearance, the modified Crimson livery really works well, the NX example certainly look impressive.
I too initially thought the new look Wrightbus design was abit too much, I had hoped 3301 would have the Gemini 3 classic front. I have to say that NXWM Crimson is the livery that most suits a Streetdeck I've seen thus far. On that note I look forward to ticking 3304/05 off when I'm back home next week.
Managed to sample 3305 today. Very smooth and possibly the quietest bus I've ever been on. The interior despite the huge amounts of litter was nice and it had that just out of the wrapper smell. The upper deck window pillars at the front are too thick for my liking, but that's just a minor. The thing that spoilt my journey the most was the enthusiast on the platform for five minutes in the city boring the driver with talk of running boards, crimson and what rota she was working this week.
Quote from: Gareth on July 16, 2016, 12:58:02 AM
Managed to sample 3305 today. Very smooth and possibly the quietest bus I've ever been on. The interior despite the huge amounts of litter was nice and it had that just out of the wrapper smell. The upper deck window pillars at the front are too thick for my liking, but that's just a minor. The thing that spoilt my journey the most was the enthusiast on the platform for five minutes in the city boring the driver with talk of running boards, crimson and what rota she was working this week.
Yes, I agree about the litter, 3302 was the same when I travelled on it,it's a pity the clientele does not match the quality of these buses.
3304 just left city on 09:58 to Stourbridge
Quote from: James4368 on July 20, 2016, 10:01:54 AM
3304 just left city on 09:58 to Stourbridge
Any times for 3305 please? Cheers
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 20, 2016, 11:40:23 AM
Any times for 3305 please? Cheers
@Ashley 60171 Ive only seen 3304 so far. not sure if 3305 is out.
I'm on 3304 in Colmore Row heading to Stourbridge
Quote from: James4368 on July 20, 2016, 12:02:29 PM
@Ashley 60171
Ive only seen 3304 so far. not sure if 3305 is out.
Cheers
@James4368 Rode 3304/05.
Just need better pictures of all five.
I'm used to seeing signs on cab doors telling me the fares but this notice in 3304 was different!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/UwQ511