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P.S Merry Christmas
4629 on the 24
4201 and 4353 on the 141 today
Also, a Merc is out on the 276 today.
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 01, 2013, 01:21:26 PM
4629 on the 24
Hmm, the only bus I'd say nowadays is unusual for the 24 is E200's. All other BC vehicle type are pretty usual for the 24 I'd say.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 01, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 01, 2013, 01:21:26 PM
4629 on the 24
Hmm, the only bus I'd say nowadays is unusual for the 24 is E200's. All other BC vehicle type are pretty usual for the 24 I'd say.
Even on a Sunday?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 01, 2013, 01:26:51 PM
4201 and 4353 on the 141 today
Also, a Merc is out on the 276 today.
1525 is the merc
1633 has also come out to play on the 276
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
1633 has also come out to play on the 276
Would have thought on a Sunday before Xmas, it should be Tridents on the sunday daytime 276 service.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 01, 2013, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2013, 02:43:47 PM
1633 has also come out to play on the 276
Would have thought on a Sunday before Xmas, it should be Tridents on the sunday daytime 276 service.
And 1629 was on 276 round lunchtime
1536 and 1642 also on 243/244
Not seen a B7 on the 243/244 or 276 today
2017 on the 126
Quote from: OH25 on December 01, 2013, 09:36:12 PM
2017 on the 126
I saw it heading down the Hagley Road this afternoon NIS, then saw it on the 22:15 ex Dudley 126 to Birmingham.
2083 is on the 246 tonight too.
Also the superb 1520 is yet another Merc on a 276 board today
4225 on 45. Think it was on the 08.15 departure from WB (but running late)
4904 on 22/23, is this unusual any more?
7023 on the 72 from Solihull this morning.Loan or transfer?.
4931 on the 38
I saw a B7RLE on the 56 on Priory Queensway last night.
1883 on the WA38
4225 on West Brom 45 in Bradford Place with cracked nearside upper deck windscreen - there appeared to be some discussion going on about sending it back empty.
4854 on the 914
Much disruption on the 71 at the Sutton end this a.m. Two inbound vehicles virtually nose to tail, followed by a 20 minute or so gap, then another two s/ds, this time 3 minutes apart ..... travelling on the last of the bunch, I then noted two outbound s/ds just 1 minute apart ......... LOL, not bad for a regular 15 minute frequency. ::) I hope NXWM are monitoring the 71's performance since the recent timetable changes - starting to think here that this service should run Sutton > Chelmsley Wood Interchange only, and forget traipsing across to Solihull .....
Re 71 bunching
We have roadworks between The Clock & the M6 junction at the moment( new lamposts being installed) & yesterday it took me nearly 15 min to do this short section.
632 on WN59 (All day board)
WN 2067 - 62 - 1100 - White Oak Drive (Was replaced with 626 upon return to the bus station. Photo available on request)
Quote from: broma1k on December 02, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
Re 71 bunching
We have roadworks between The Clock & the M6 junction at the moment( new lamposts being installed) & yesterday it took me nearly 15 min to do this short section.
Thanks for that explanation, Broma - much appreciated !
4056 on the 80 this evening. 16.30 departure from WB.
4531 - 48E
2025 + 5513 on 126
1614 on 246
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 02, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
2025 + 5513 on 126
1614 on 246
I'd say a B7 is common on the 126 now, one is reported on here every other day ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 02, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 02, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
2025 + 5513 on 126
1614 on 246
I'd say a B7 is common on the 126 now, one is reported on here every other day ?
Err.....nope, I'm not sure where you got that from? One covered a breakdown yesterday (Sunday), they are quite unusual otherwise...
Quote from: uniquicity on December 02, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
4056 on the 80 this evening. 16.30 departure from WB.
+E200 and
B6LE
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 02, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 02, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
2025 + 5513 on 126
1614 on 246
I'd say a B7 is common on the 126 now, one is reported on here every other day ?
No they aren't reported most days. They aren't rare but they aren't common compared with tridents Nathan.
5513 came off the 59 (Replaced with 632) to replace something else on the 126.
5513 started on 59/01 (Did first journey of the day) but got put on the 126 so 632 replaced it on the 59 but it had a problem so 2064 came off the 32/3 onto the 59 to replace it.
So 3 buses tgat have operatexmd the same running board today! Thats WN garage for you ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 02, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 02, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 02, 2013, 08:17:04 PM
2025 + 5513 on 126
1614 on 246
I'd say a B7 is common on the 126 now, one is reported on here every other day ?
Err.....nope, I'm not sure where you got that from? One covered a breakdown yesterday (Sunday), they are quite unusual otherwise...
I'll be honest, from what gets reported on here I'd have got the same idea as Nathan
I have to agree with Kevin and Nathan4775. The green machine would still pass for unusual on the 126 probably, the B7RLE not unusual now and we decided that in the November thread
4500 on the 38 today. Are PB short of singles?
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
I have to agree with Kevin and Nathan4775. The green machine would still pass for unusual on the 126 probably, the B7RLE not unusual now and we decided that in the November thread
No, as I already explained, there was a short spell in which they were appearing frequently, a month ago at least. They have not really been on there since.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
I have to agree with Kevin and Nathan4775. The green machine would still pass for unusual on the 126 probably, the B7RLE not unusual now and we decided that in the November thread
No, as I already explained, there was a short spell in which they were appearing frequently, a month ago at least. They have not really been on there since.
Well can't something be classed as 'Noteworthy' if it differs from the main allocation? The 126 main allocation is Tridents, so anything different from them will still be classed as 'Noteworthy' - regardless of the amount on there.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 03, 2013, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
I have to agree with Kevin and Nathan4775. The green machine would still pass for unusual on the 126 probably, the B7RLE not unusual now and we decided that in the November thread
No, as I already explained, there was a short spell in which they were appearing frequently, a month ago at least. They have not really been on there since.
Well can't something be classed as 'Noteworthy' if it differs from the main allocation? The 126 main allocation is Tridents, so anything different from them will still be classed as 'Noteworthy' - regardless of the amount on there.
2019 is on the 126 today.
Quote from: Mike K on December 03, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 03, 2013, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
I have to agree with Kevin and Nathan4775. The green machine would still pass for unusual on the 126 probably, the B7RLE not unusual now and we decided that in the November thread
No, as I already explained, there was a short spell in which they were appearing frequently, a month ago at least. They have not really been on there since.
Well can't something be classed as 'Noteworthy' if it differs from the main allocation? The 126 main allocation is Tridents, so anything different from them will still be classed as 'Noteworthy' - regardless of the amount on there.
2019 is on the 126 today.
... This
Lol, and here we go again
I did say this would happen with the name change of the thread to 'Noteworthy' ::)... I see B7s on the 126 quite a bit, but main allocation is the Tridents
7020 on the 71 this a.m.
Shape of things to come? ;D
Quote from: Ossie on December 03, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
7020 on the 71 this a.m.
Shape of things to come? ;D
Omnilinks on the 71/72 aren't unusual Ossie they get a mixture of both B7's and Omnilinks :)
Actually thinking about it now, B7RLE's on the 126 i wouldn't really say were rare but they aren't the most common working
Some Good Noteworthy Workings in Wolverhampton today
2024 on WN529
4001 on WN 5 (Mega rare Working)! Did the 15:25 5 from Wolves
Didn't catch the number but there was a toothpaste omnilink on the 94 leaving city just after 4pm today.
Quote from: uniquicity on December 02, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
4056 on the 80 this evening. 16.30 departure from WB.
Out on the same running board today.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 03, 2013, 04:01:34 PM
Actually thinking about it now, B7RLE's on the 126 i wouldn't really say were rare but they aren't the most common working
Some Good Noteworthy Workings in Wolverhampton today
2024 on WN529
4001 on WN 5 (Mega rare Working)! Did the 15:25 5 from Wolves
Didnt see this at all so must have come from the garage.
4555 - WN 3 (Is this the one that sees a double decker or is that another route)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 03, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
4555 - WN 3 (Is this the one that sees a double decker or is that another route)
Yes that is the one Nathan. I did not see one on the 3 last Friday though. Must have missed it if one was on the 3
Quote from: John on December 03, 2013, 05:41:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 03, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
4555 - WN 3 (Is this the one that sees a double decker or is that another route)
Yes that is the one Nathan. I did not see one on the 3 last Friday though. Must have missed it if one was on the 3
Thanks John, aimed to get a picture but didnt go so well ;D
There was also a B7 on the 79, I think that replaced the trident which was sat in the middle of the bus station near the coach stands with its hazards flashing.
WB 524 - 5 - 1740 - Pheasey (WB bound)
9s seemed to be running in pairs again this afternoon and at one stage, there were 2 9s running down Lye High Street with 4823 NIS following them?
WA omnilink - 10 - Rushall at 1852 or thereabouts
Caught AG 4062 home this evening on the 37, let the Gemini go past just so I could actually catch a rare working myself! 8)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
9s seemed to be running in pairs again this afternoon and at one stage, there were 2 9s running down Lye High Street with 4823 NIS following them?
I thought I heard on the radio that the temporary traffic lights by McDonald's, Colley Gate are causing delays
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
WA omnilink - 10 - Rushall at 1852 or thereabouts
There was also an OmniLink on the 40/41 today & on the 70A. At least one B7 meanwhile on the 311/3 & 301 (not unusual in themselves).
1891 and 1896 were both on the 40/41 today
Quote from: Winston on December 03, 2013, 07:05:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
9s seemed to be running in pairs again this afternoon and at one stage, there were 2 9s running down Lye High Street with 4823 NIS following them?
I thought I heard on the radio that the temporary traffic lights by McDonald's, Colley Gate are causing delays
Could be Winston, also heard Park lane was closed early this afternoon due to a serious accident, so that would have increased the traffic in that particular area!
WA 1431 - 302 - 2000 - Walsall Bus Station
colly gate was closed off between the mcdonalds and the hays due to a car running someone over. 9 diversion was park lane, mougle lane, hays lane then normal line of route and the reverse towards city it was closed off for about 2 and a half hours.
Quote from: driver on December 03, 2013, 08:13:18 PM
colly gate was closed off between the mcdonalds and the hays due to a car running someone over. 9 diversion was park lane, mougle lane, hays lane then normal line of route and the reverse towards city it was closed off for about 2 and a half hours.
I wonder whther there were 2 incidents then, because Radio WM said that Park Lane was closed due to an accident by the Unitarian Church along there?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
9s seemed to be running in pairs again this afternoon and at one stage, there were 2 9s running down Lye High Street with 4823 NIS following them?
It's like that every night Stu, I was on one of a convoy of 3 Enviros heading through Lye High Street towards Stour last night (4812/20/28)
Back to noteworthy workings...
WN 2012 on 1
WN 4571 on 82
WA 673 on 39
Yes one board on the 3 is trident operated. What time did you see it though?
Maybe you just didn't spot 4001 as it has been on during the day (Saw it do the 15:25 departure from Wolverhampton)
1743 on the 222 and I think its 2003 on the 81 :). 1743 sounds awful compared to the other mercs. Does anybody know what is causing the sound
4056 (I think...) on the 80. Is this normal or what?
Its always sounded different to the other Mercs has 1743, there is no obvious cause it just comes with age i suppose
Theres a trident virtually every day on the 82 now
4555 was on the usual Trident board on the 3 today
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 03, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
4056 (I think...) on the 80. Is this normal or what?
Its not normal as it breaks the emission zone rules. However, it has been on the 80 on the same board two days in a row (16.30 departure from WB).
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 03, 2013, 10:27:59 PM
4056 (I think...) on the 80. Is this normal or what?
Used to be, before the emission rulings and before the Presidents went to YW
Quote from: Jack2001 on December 03, 2013, 10:26:24 PM
1743 on the 222 and I think its 2003 on the 81 :). 1743 sounds awful compared to the other mercs. Does anybody know what is causing the sound
Mentioned this in the PE thread but think it got lost in the nonsense going on in there, this was just a dreadful noise, far worse than normal, not sure what was causing it
4821 on 140/241 all day today
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 03, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: Ossie on December 03, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
7020 on the 71 this a.m.
Shape of things to come? ;D
Omnilinks on the 71/72 aren't unusual Ossie they get a mixture of both B7's and Omnilinks :)
Hmm, I've always thought them a
bit of a rarity, Rob ..... that said, just seen 7025 on the 71 today !! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 03, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Yes one board on the 3 is trident operated. What time did you see it though?
Maybe you just didn't spot 4001 as it has been on during the day (Saw it do the 15:25 departure from Wolverhampton)
Maybe I did Though!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11206326323/
Quote from: 4006 on December 04, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 03, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Yes one board on the 3 is trident operated. What time did you see it though?
Maybe you just didn't spot 4001 as it has been on during the day (Saw it do the 15:25 departure from Wolverhampton)
Maybe I did Though!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11206326323/
What a great shot! Don't think I have ever seen a decker on the Codsall routes.
Quote from: Ossie on December 04, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 03, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: Ossie on December 03, 2013, 01:49:25 PM
7020 on the 71 this a.m.
Shape of things to come? ;D
Omnilinks on the 71/72 aren't unusual Ossie they get a mixture of both B7's and Omnilinks :)
Hmm, I've always thought them a bit of a rarity, Rob ..... that said, just seen 7025 on the 71 today !! ;D ;D ;D
Just 7021 to move to AG now ;) Thank You for telling me about 7025 Ossie
4098 - YW 3 earlier not sure if its still out though
4349 on the 141
4820 on the 140
2130 on the 9
Wolverhampton 554 on 25/A
Quote from: John on December 04, 2013, 04:27:01 PM
Wolverhampton 554 on 25/A
It was also on there yesterday too;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11192505994/
Quote from: OH25 on December 04, 2013, 04:14:05 PM
4349 on the 141
4820 on the 140
2130 on the 9
There are one or two Tridents on the 141 every day.
What time did you see 2130, presumably this morning? It can't have been 2100 as it would have still been en route from garage to Stourbridge at the time you posted this
A E400 just went past my house on the 140 a minute ago . I presume it is 4820. If it is that's the second time today I have seen it ;)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 04, 2013, 04:11:34 PM
4098 - YW 3 earlier not sure if its still out though
Saw that this morning just before 9am doing a 3E to Yardley Wood.
Not long before that also saw AG 4100 on the 37 in Sparkbrook heading out of city.
Nice to see Presidents back on the Stratford Road again!
4821 on the 140 near Municipal Offices, it was then after it broke down on Colmore Row with the engine flap open
Walsall
40/41 1891
40/41 1479
40/41 1438
8/89 47xx
301-1439
301-17xx
302-1849 (4 branded) from 1600 hrs
39-1892
Seen 4 Enviros on the 140 which seems a lot.
Also:
WB 4084 on 74/75
WB 4291 on 83/89 (deckers are usually Presidents)
PB 4501 on 952H
PB 4854 on 16?
AG 2121 on 5
I think I saw an Omnilink on the PB 7 too.
Deckers on 83/89 can be any type of B7TL's, ALX's and President being the most frequent to appear
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 09:12:14 PM
Seen 4 Enviros on the 140 which seems a lot.
Also:
WB 4084 on 74/75
WB 4291 on 83/89 (deckers are usually Presidents)
PB 4501 on 952H
PB 4854 on 16?
AG 2121 on 5
I think I saw an Omnilink on the PB 7 too.
that does seem a lot Matt, it seems at the moment that PE seem to be using virtually anything on any route. Certainly at 4:15 this afternoon PE didn't have a spare Enviro 400/Trident and if 2100 hadn't turned up, the peak board on the 9 may have been left uncovered or it would have been 824 or 1706?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 09:12:14 PM
Seen 4 Enviros on the 140 which seems a lot.
Also:
WB 4084 on 74/75
WB 4291 on 83/89 (deckers are usually Presidents)
PB 4501 on 952H
PB 4854 on 16?
AG 2121 on 5
I think I saw an Omnilink on the PB 7 too.
ALXs on 83/89 almost everyday, I'm not too sure about Omnilinks on the 7
Quote from: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Deckers on 83/89 can be any type of B7TL's, ALX's and President being the most frequent to appear
Geminis can be just as common as Presidents somedays, usually 2 Geminis a day on Sunday
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
one from earlier on I have just remembered
4763 on WA8/89- Saw in Heath Town (Going towards Wolverhampton) @ 15:35
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
I'm beginning to wonder if they are more of a guideline than a solid rule...
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
I'm beginning to wonder if they are more of a guideline than a solid rule...
Isn't there a fine or something to be implemented when the rule gets broke? Like the Trainee Buses aren't allowed into the city either I've heard (those ones which aren't Emmison Compliant)
Funny you should mention trainers, I saw one of the Ultras going up Moor St about 2/3 weeks ago turning into Carrs Lane, had about 4 people on board.
It could be spotters luck Matt, that is if your now a fan of President B7s over ALX B7's
I also saw 4763 nathan, 1930 on lichfield street, could still be out perhaps?
Quote from: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
It could be spotters luck Matt, that is if your now a fan of President B7s over ALX B7's
I also saw 4763 nathan, 1930 on lichfield street, could still be out perhaps?
I did think it would do that journey but I didn't bother go out to catch it
Quote from: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
It could be spotters luck Matt, that is if your now a fan of President B7s over ALX B7's
I also saw 4763 nathan, 1930 on lichfield street, could still be out perhaps?
Certainly not - they are vile, and the ALX400s are lovely.
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:17:23 PM
Funny you should mention trainers, I saw one of the Ultras going up Moor St about 2/3 weeks ago turning into Carrs Lane, had about 4 people on board.
I saw 1505 (I think) going round Paradise Circus the other day.
Is a 21xx bus on 24 unusual? Seen it at 5:25am
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 04, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Isn't there a fine or something to be implemented when the rule gets broke? Like the Trainee Buses aren't allowed into the city either I've heard (those ones which aren't Emmison Compliant)
I've never heard that bit before, definitely seen B10 trainer buses in on Moor Street a few times
4932 izzy on 16a, 07.40 ex scott arms.
Just caught the rear of 4931 coming off broad st towards city. CG on the display which i presume is the cape gemini / waterlinks shuttle.
Quote from: 37351ml on December 05, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
Just caught the rear of 4931 coming off broad st towards city. CG on the display which i presume is the cape gemini / waterlinks shuttle.
Yes, on the CG contract
1453 on (WA) 40, seen it entering in Wolverhampton bus station, 6 minutes late for 12:17 departure.
According to my brother 1706 was on the 222 earlier
Geminis on both the 301 and 302 this morning following each other down to Walsall
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 04, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
I'm beginning to wonder if they are more of a guideline than a solid rule...
Isn't there a fine or something to be implemented when the rule gets broke? Like the Trainee Buses aren't allowed into the city either I've heard (those ones which aren't Emmison Compliant)
I understood that the emission rules only applied to routes which have a frequency of less than 30 minutes, hence why AG continue to use Presidents on 73, routes 83/89 are exempt because on frequency. Even thought they each every 30 minutes 127/8/9 have to comply because they are on the same registration.
This was certainly the case when first introduced, has this change
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 05, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 04, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
I'm beginning to wonder if they are more of a guideline than a solid rule...
Isn't there a fine or something to be implemented when the rule gets broke? Like the Trainee Buses aren't allowed into the city either I've heard (those ones which aren't Emmison Compliant)
I understood that the emission rules only applied to routes which have a frequency of less than 30 minutes, hence why AG continue to use Presidents on 73, routes 83/89 are exempt because on frequency. Even thought they each every 30 minutes 127/8/9 have to comply because they are on the same registration.
This was certainly the case when first introduced, has this change
LEZ = London Emissions Zone, so WB would only be breaking 'LEZ rules' if they operated these buses in the affected area in London! ;)
Here is Birmingham, we have a 'Quality Partnership Scheme' in place, all the details can be perused here:
http://www.centro.org.uk/bus/qualitypartnershipscheme.aspx
From the Technical Summary document:
QuoteFor services operating at a frequency of three or more buses per hour between 0800 and
1800 Monday to Friday, or services with a frequency less than three buses per hour but
whose timetable is jointly coordinated with that of another service between common
destinations at a frequency of three or more buses per hour (for example two half -hourly
services providing a 15 minute frequency over a section of route, or three hourly services
providing a joint 20 minute timetable), all vehicles used must meet Euro III emissions
standards (see below for exact meaning). Services in this category are referred to as 'Core
Services or Coordinated Core Services'.
For services operating fewer than three buses per hour, from 6th January 2013 vehicles
will be required to meet the Euro II emissions standards. These services are
'Complementary Services'. At the beginning of January 2016, these standards increase to
Euro III for single deck buses (Euro II for double deck). From 28th May 2017, double deck
buses will be required to meet the same emission standards as single deck buses, so Euro
III for these Complementary services.
So yes, Presidents and Mercs would be acceptable on services such as the 73 and 141, and the 83 and 89 which don't operate to a co-ordinated timetable (both services are every 30 minutes independent of each other). However the 127/8/9 operate to a co-ordinated timetable, likewise the 31 and 31A, so they wouldn't be acceptable on these services.
Also worth noting:
QuoteWhat happens if I can't meet the Scheme's requirements?
If you sign the Undertaking, you have to ensure you operate your registered services in line
with the Scheme's requirements. If you are unable to do this, in the first instance you should
immediately discuss the problem with Centro.
If you have a problem with your vehicles, you must ensure that any replacement vehicle
meets the required standards (see below). No exceptions to these requirements are
permitted – this would not be fair on other operators who have signed the Undertaking and
are ensuring their operations are compliant.
It has been suggested previously that NXWM have been able to 'get away' with using 'non-compliant' vehicles (eg Presidents on the 37) where there is a vehicle shortage, as long as they have notified Centro in advance, as in these exceptional circumstances Centro would rather a journey operate with a non-compliant bus, rather than have no journey at all. At this point I can only guess that NXWM would then in turn assure Centro that a suitable bus would be sought as a replacement at the earliest opportunity.
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 05, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
According to my brother 1706 was on the 222 earlier
yeah it is I saw it in merry hill at 16:45ish
Quote from: Stu on December 05, 2013, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 05, 2013, 06:22:33 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 04, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Just spotters luck that I only see Presidents on the 83/89 then, cheers
Also note WB have broken the LEZ rules again
I'm beginning to wonder if they are more of a guideline than a solid rule...
Isn't there a fine or something to be implemented when the rule gets broke? Like the Trainee Buses aren't allowed into the city either I've heard (those ones which aren't Emmison Compliant)
I understood that the emission rules only applied to routes which have a frequency of less than 30 minutes, hence why AG continue to use Presidents on 73, routes 83/89 are exempt because on frequency. Even thought they each every 30 minutes 127/8/9 have to comply because they are on the same registration.
This was certainly the case when first introduced, has this change
LEZ = London Emissions Zone, so WB would only be breaking 'LEZ rules' if they operated these buses in the affected area in London! ;)
Here is Birmingham, we have a 'Quality Partnership Scheme' in place, all the details can be perused here:
http://www.centro.org.uk/bus/qualitypartnershipscheme.aspx
From the Technical Summary document:
QuoteFor services operating at a frequency of three or more buses per hour between 0800 and
1800 Monday to Friday, or services with a frequency less than three buses per hour but
whose timetable is jointly coordinated with that of another service between common
destinations at a frequency of three or more buses per hour (for example two half -hourly
services providing a 15 minute frequency over a section of route, or three hourly services
providing a joint 20 minute timetable), all vehicles used must meet Euro III emissions
standards (see below for exact meaning). Services in this category are referred to as 'Core
Services or Coordinated Core Services'.
For services operating fewer than three buses per hour, from 6th January 2013 vehicles
will be required to meet the Euro II emissions standards. These services are
'Complementary Services'. At the beginning of January 2016, these standards increase to
Euro III for single deck buses (Euro II for double deck). From 28th May 2017, double deck
buses will be required to meet the same emission standards as single deck buses, so Euro
III for these Complementary services.
So yes, Presidents and Mercs would be acceptable on services such as the 73 and 141, and the 83 and 89 which don't operate to a co-ordinated timetable (both services are every 30 minutes independent of each other). However the 127/8/9 operate to a co-ordinated timetable, likewise the 31 and 31A, so they wouldn't be acceptable on these services.
Also worth noting:
QuoteWhat happens if I can't meet the Scheme's requirements?
If you sign the Undertaking, you have to ensure you operate your registered services in line
with the Scheme's requirements. If you are unable to do this, in the first instance you should
immediately discuss the problem with Centro.
If you have a problem with your vehicles, you must ensure that any replacement vehicle
meets the required standards (see below). No exceptions to these requirements are
permitted – this would not be fair on other operators who have signed the Undertaking and
are ensuring their operations are compliant.
It has been suggested previously that NXWM have been able to 'get away' with using 'non-compliant' vehicles (eg Presidents on the 37) where there is a vehicle shortage, as long as they have notified Centro in advance, as in these exceptional circumstances Centro would rather a journey operate with a non-compliant bus, rather than have no journey at all. At this point I can only guess that NXWM would then in turn assure Centro that a suitable bus would be sought as a replacement at the earliest opportunity.
Thank you Stu; it makes a bit more sense now!! I was told though even noncompliance Trainee buses aren't allowed into the City Centre though;; misinformed it seems.
Am i reading this correct, it is ok for Mercs?Presidents to operate the 83/89 because it is only half hour frequency on each, however if another company registered the 83/89 and operated against National Express every half hour, then NW wouldn't be able to run the service with Mercs/Presidents because the overall frequncy would be every 15 minutes?
So a route that has 2 operators operating on it at a 15 minute frequency combined (30 minutes each operator), the LEZ rules would apply? Would they be on separate registrations? (If so, then I would think no they would not be affected by the LEZ)
Training buses are allowed in the City Centre
Also does it only operate between 08:00 & 18:00 Monday to Friday, if so on weekends any bus can operate any route?
Please don't reference it as LEZ, as its the QPS really.
Oops, I thought LEZ stood for Low Emission Zone! My bad.
1706 is one of the late buses on 222.
B6LE on the daytime 49 on 5/12. Was a 56x one I think. (not really paying attention)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 05, 2013, 11:32:59 PM
Oops, I thought LEZ stood for Low Emission Zone! My bad.
Actually I stand corrected, it is indeed Low Emission Zone, but it is only for the Greater London area.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17678.aspx#tkt-tab-panel-1
Quote from: Stu on December 06, 2013, 07:59:05 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 05, 2013, 11:32:59 PM
Oops, I thought LEZ stood for Low Emission Zone! My bad.
Actually I stand corrected, it is indeed Low Emission Zone, but it is only for the Greater London area.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17678.aspx#tkt-tab-panel-1
Either way the Birmingham equivalent is the QPS.
1846 on the 115
Bucket leather seats and tinted windows .... vroom, vroom! 8) So comfy, I nearly missed me stop ...
2018 on the 1230 255 ex merry hill to wolverhampton
2133 - 97-Airport/NEC
1846 - 115 (Already reported I know but just seen it)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
2133 - 97-Airport/NEC
1846 - 115 (Already reported I know but just seen it)
There is usually a B7RLE on the 97 every other day Nath :)
4698 on 101
PN 1633 on 246
Quote from: Ossie on December 06, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
1846 on the 115
Bucket leather seats and tinted windows .... vroom, vroom! 8) So comfy, I nearly missed me stop ...
I saw it on the 914 this morning as well
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 06, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
2133 - 97-Airport/NEC
1846 - 115 (Already reported I know but just seen it)
There is usually a B7RLE on the 97 every other day Nath :)
I take it the 97 interworks with the 97A then :D I didnt know that thanks Rob
2026 on the 79, did the 15.40 departure from West Bromwich. Also an UID single decker on the board behind.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 06, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
2133 - 97-Airport/NEC
1846 - 115 (Already reported I know but just seen it)
There is usually a B7RLE on the 97 every other day Nath :)
I take it the 97 interworks with the 97A then :D I didnt know that thanks Rob
The 97/97A/97P all interwork Buddy ;)
Quote from: uniquicity on December 06, 2013, 06:08:17 PM
2026 on the 79, did the 15.40 departure from West Bromwich. Also an UID single decker on the board behind.
You might find less Spectras on the 79 now it fully trident allocated (More Spectras on the 59)
AG 4073 on the 37 this morning.
Not sure where it finished the day, just saw it 'Not In Service' coming up Shirley Road into Acocks Green village, no lights on, maybe it has finished a 1 working.
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 06, 2013, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 06, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 06, 2013, 02:23:40 PM
2133 - 97-Airport/NEC
1846 - 115 (Already reported I know but just seen it)
There is usually a B7RLE on the 97 every other day Nath :)
I take it the 97 interworks with the 97A then :D I didnt know that thanks Rob
The 97/97A/97P all interwork Buddy ;)
:) First time Ive seen a B7 work the 97 Airport run, I knew B7 commonly ran the 97/P but now I know, cheers mate :D
WA 1433 - 8/89 - Cleveland Street, Wolverhampton @ 1015 ish. Saw it about 10 minutes later broken down at Princes square traffic lights
WN 1681 - 79 - 1230 - Wolverhampton Bus Station
A B7RLE on the 81 cant remember the fleetnumber :-\. But now there is a B7RLE on the 81 nearly every day now as I use it to get to school ;)
YW 4719 on 2, and 4731 looking rather out of place in Solihull on the 76.
BC 4445 then 4621 on 900.
Also, a PN E400 on a 140/241 all day board.
4681 on WA 8/89 today
I saw 4681 in Sutton coldfield on the 6 less than half hour ago im sure
2124 on BC 59 to Birmingham seen at Yardley swan centre 1315
What's the 59(bc) actual allocation ? As I've seen a few B7 on there an thought it was common?
Trident 4609 - sorry it was 4680 I saw on the 6
Nathan4775 - i think BC59 is B7RLE's and Tridents
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 02:26:31 PM
What's the 59(bc) actual allocation ? As I've seen a few B7 on there an thought it was common?
BC59 allocation is mainly Tridents there used to be a B7RLE board allocated for the 59 I know it worked the 07:38 Birmingham to Kingshurst but for while now that working has had a Trident I haven't seen a B7RLE on that working for some time :)
1847 is on the 28 today, not unusual for an OmniLink, but an high back seated one is, although they do sometimes sneak onto other routes on Saturdays
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 07, 2013, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 02:26:31 PM
What's the 59(bc) actual allocation ? As I've seen a few B7 on there an thought it was common?
BC59 allocation is mainly Tridents there used to be a B7RLE board allocated for the 59 I know it worked the 07:38 Birmingham to Kingshurst but for while now that working has had a Trident I haven't seen a B7RLE on that working for some time :)
I'm sure Tony has said a B7RLE is allocated to the 59 which goes onto the 957 of an evening to make it fully B7RLE? I've seen the 59A twice the past couple of weeks and both times was a B7RLE, so I dont know weather that goes onto the 59?
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
Saw it at exact same time as you :) I posted this in the branded buses off route thread
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
With only 2 126 branded Trident's left what are WN playing at? Must be very difficult to have put it on the wrong route
Colgate Enviro 4732 on the 6 today.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on December 07, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
With only 2 126 branded Trident's left what are WN playing at? Must be very difficult to have put it on the wrong route
It may have been parked in the garage (Being repaired or as a spare bus) and a bus broke down on the 25 so 4575 came out yo replace it. I doubt it would have been allocated from its first journey on the running board. If it was allocated from start of service then i could ask the same thing 'What are Park Lane Playing at?'
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
I would clasd tridents on the 25 as slightly unusual on a saturday but they do appear sometimes. Although it was odd to see a 126 branded trident on there.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
I would clasd tridents on the 25 as slightly unusual on a saturday but they do appear sometimes. Although it was odd to see a 126 branded trident on there.
Glad to see 4575 still running around with its 126 branding, as my favourite Voith Trident I hope it is the last one to be debranded.
Well there is not much time left for them with 126 branding as it won't be long before 4310/11 are back and 4575/9 go intovthe paintshop.
I did want to catch it for a fast thrash up stafford rd but i wanted to take a photo on Pipers Row of it instead :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 12:16:34 AM
Well there is not much time left for them with 126 branding as it won't be long before 4310/11 are back and 4575/9 go intovthe paintshop.
I did want to catch it for a fast thrash up stafford rd but i wanted to take a photo on Pipers Row of it instead :)
I'd have gone for the thrash, 4575's speed is legendary...
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 08, 2013, 12:19:47 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 12:16:34 AM
Well there is not much time left for them with 126 branding as it won't be long before 4310/11 are back and 4575/9 go intovthe paintshop.
I did want to catch it for a fast thrash up stafford rd but i wanted to take a photo on Pipers Row of it instead :)
I'd have gone for the thrash, 4575's speed is legendary...
Probably due to the new engine I believe it had about 12 months ago!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: DOC37V on December 07, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
126 Branded 4575 was on WN25 today, struck me as unusual to see a decker on the 25 ? 1530 out of Wolvo.
I would clasd tridents on the 25 as slightly unusual on a saturday but they do appear sometimes. Although it was odd to see a 126 branded trident on there.
Tridents are on the 25 everyday there are usually 2 on the night boards interworking with 27. This week amoung others 4572/7/8/93 have been on they seam to be putting the Voith Tridents on at the moment usually on a 27 board but as I say working the 25 on the evenings. Tridents probably allocated to 27 due to the amount of complaints & unreliability of the initial B6 allocation when they first arrived (some of which are still overheating even though its now winter!)
4303 came out to play on 115/914 yesterday afternoon. Is this still common or uncommon? I think its the latter
Quote from: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 10:50:30 AM
4303 came out to play on 115/914 yesterday afternoon. Is this still common or uncommon? I think its the latter
I would say it is uncommon, yes. If a B7TL is used on the 115/914, it is usually a Gemini
4006, i was aware about tridents on the 25 in the evening due to interworking with the 27 but during the day they aren't very common but aren't rare either.
4202 on the 276 today (Very Rare for a Sunday). Saw it in Stourbridge between 14:15 and 14:25 (Heading to Wollaston Junction)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
4202 on the 276 today (Very Rare for a Sunday).
4346 is also on it!
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 08, 2013, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 08, 2013, 04:21:20 PM
4202 on the 276 today (Very Rare for a Sunday).
4346 is also on it!
I was going to ask if the 276 was fully trident today but I realised that 2087 is on there
4202 should be on the 9pm 244 from Dudley
4346 should be on the 10pm 244 from Dudley
4931 on the cape gemini waterlinks shuttle again.
4781 - 7 (Saturday)
B7 just left town on the 14, might be an all day or peak not too sure
A B7 on the 14 is almost a daily thing now. I wonder if it comes off another route, transfers to another route, or just allocated that way?
Leather seated Enviro400 on Walsall 8/89
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
Leather seated Enviro400 on Walsall 8/89
There's a 468# Gemini on the 8/89 aswell
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 09, 2013, 04:31:56 PM
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:26:28 PM
Leather seated Enviro400 on Walsall 8/89
There's a 468# Gemini on the 8/89 aswell
It's 4683. Saw it myself today too.
1454 - 77
20** - 141 this morning
There was a Trident on the 997 this morning, 4329 I think
4928 PB on the 38 2.15 ish.
also saw either 2124 or 2144 on 71 going through castle vale?cant't remember which?
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
4928 PB on the 38 2.15 ish.
also saw either 2124 or 2144 on 71 going through castle vale?cant't remember which?
Are you sure - both of those are Central B7RLEs (unless 2124 has recently transferred to AG?)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
4928 PB on the 38 2.15 ish.
also saw either 2124 or 2144 on 71 going through castle vale?cant't remember which?
Are you sure - both of those are Central B7RLEs (unless 2124 has recently transferred to AG?)
Was either one or the other can't remember which?
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 06:16:36 PM
There was a Trident on the 997 this morning, 4329 I think
;) spent the day on the X51
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
4928 PB on the 38 2.15 ish.
also saw either 2124 or 2144 on 71 going through castle vale?cant't remember which?
Are you sure - both of those are Central B7RLEs (unless 2124 has recently transferred to AG?)
Was either one or the other can't remember which?
2124 seems the more likely candidate if one has transferred, given it is the first in the batch at BC
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2141.html
E200 on the 29
Is 4781 on 67 unusual?
4886 on 42
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2013, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on December 09, 2013, 06:25:57 PM
4928 PB on the 38 2.15 ish.
also saw either 2124 or 2144 on 71 going through castle vale?cant't remember which?
Are you sure - both of those are Central B7RLEs (unless 2124 has recently transferred to AG?)
Was either one or the other can't remember which?
2124 seems the more likely candidate if one has transferred, given it is the first in the batch at BC
Both 2124 and 2144 are still at BC so must have been on loan :)
Quote from: Tony on December 09, 2013, 08:39:15 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2141.html
It's always 2141 that appears on the 14. That's the third time now.
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 10, 2013, 09:06:15 AM
Is 4781 on 67 unusual?
Quite a good spot. The non bendi-buses on the 67 are usually Gemini's.
There is a '51' plate Trident on the 301 as well
1929 on the 76
4335 on the 84
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 10, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
1929 on the 76
4335 on the 84
Two great spots there Sayeed :)
4769 is on WA 8/89
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
4769 is on WA 8/89
On the same board that the Enviro was on yesterday.
Quote from: John on December 10, 2013, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 10, 2013, 09:06:15 AM
Is 4781 on 67 unusual?
I wouldn't say that! Omnicity DD on there yesterday as well. Omnilink and 42xx are also common
1888 - was on the X51
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 10, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
1888 - was on the X51
You saw that but missed this one?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1891.html
Third time I have photographed that bus on an unusual route!
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 10, 2013, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
4769 is on WA 8/89
On the same board that the Enviro was on yesterday.
Yes it operated the 15:15 and 19:13 89 from the stop by me (Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield) W'ton bound
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 10, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
1888 - was on the X51
You saw that but missed this one?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1891.html
Third time I have photographed that bus on an unusual route!
Great photo. Was it a change bus?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 10, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
1888 - was on the X51
You saw that but missed this one?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1891.html
Third time I have photographed that bus on an unusual route!
Great photo. Was it a change bus?
Think I saw it this evening leaving town about quarter to 6, was coming down corporation street behind the X56 I was running for
Quote from: Kevin on December 10, 2013, 09:27:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 10, 2013, 08:10:58 PM
1888 - was on the X51
You saw that but missed this one?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1891.html
Third time I have photographed that bus on an unusual route!
Great photo. Was it a change bus?
Think I saw it this evening leaving town about quarter to 6, was coming down corporation street behind the X56 I was running for
Lol; I can just imagine you with your bandana flowing in the wind whilst bolting around the city. Good times.
I've seen a Dudley Road driver that I'd imagine looks like you if you were a driver. Biker jacket. Bandana. The works!
Ok, 3 in one here, very wierd not sure what topic to put it in...
4474 (branded for the 97) just went past me as a 957E to Yardley (about 15 mins ago at hay mills)
Quote from: Kevin on December 11, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
Ok, 3 in one here, very wierd not sure what topic to put it in...
4474 (branded for the 97) just went past me as a 957E to Yardley (about 15 mins ago at hay mills)
Might as well put it in all 3 topics, friend. Good spot there though Kevin, got picture?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 04:59:13 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 11, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
Ok, 3 in one here, very wierd not sure what topic to put it in...
4474 (branded for the 97) just went past me as a 957E to Yardley (about 15 mins ago at hay mills)
Might as well put it in all 3 topics, friend. Good spot there though Kevin, got picture?
Its dark and the camera on me phone wouldn't get the pic from across the road, if it turned round at the Swan Island there's a chance its still on the cov road somewhere
4306 - 997 Morning Peak? Didn't look suited anyway. I presume it isn't a usual working? I'm rarely over that sidr
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 06:07:03 PM
4306 - 997 Morning Peak? Didn't look suited anyway. I presume it isn't a usual working? I'm rarely over that sidr
Think Tridents may appear on the 997 during morning peak but I can't be 100% sure on that either
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 06:13:05 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 06:07:03 PM
4306 - 997 Morning Peak? Didn't look suited anyway. I presume it isn't a usual working? I'm rarely over that sidr
Think Tridents may appear on the 997 during morning peak but I can't be 100% sure on that either
Unidentified Trident on the 997 at 4 this afternoon (unless peak boards start that early)
4485 roaring loudly on late night sutton lines. Toothpaste 4727 hanging in there on 914.
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 11, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Why on Bull St at 10am Not In Service? I thought it might've been running back dead to depot
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 11, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Is this board usually a trident or is usually a branded/unbranded Gemini or E400? Also what time does this board depart garage and what time does it do its first trip?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 11, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Why on Bull St at 10am Not In Service? I thought it might've been running back dead to depot
Maybe he was waiting to take up duties on its next trip?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 10:10:49 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 11, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Why on Bull St at 10am Not In Service? I thought it might've been running back dead to depot
Maybe he was waiting to take up duties on its next trip?
Yes, he may have arrived a little early and was waiting time
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 10:10:49 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 11, 2013, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 11, 2013, 10:05:09 PM
4306 was on X51-01 all day
First trip 997 then X51 all day
Why on Bull St at 10am Not In Service? I thought it might've been running back dead to depot
Maybe he was waiting to take up duties on its next trip?
Possibly just I've never seen that on those services before. Probably a decent drop back if he had to blank it off. Usually the case when going between routes like 997 / X51. And can I just mention, from a distance, 4306 is a state.
Looked in a state at WN too. A candidate for the paintshop?
I don't know if these count as unusual but
WN 1679 - 59 - seen at WN bus station just after 1030
WN 639 - 32 - WN bus station 1030
PE 4135 - 244 - Dudley Bus Station 2300
4932 cape gemini waterlinks shuttle
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 10, 2013, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
4769 is on WA 8/89
On the same board that the Enviro was on yesterday.
Another on today, couldn't see the fleetnumber. Becoming common now.
1413 on full 49
WN Trident. - 1
B7RLE on the 24, 1926 on the 76 and E400 on the 49
Currently on 4001 on the 257, must be a replacement for a failed Trident as its running right between boards, has been tidied up since my last ride, and has been MOT'ed
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 12, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
B7RLE on the 24, 1926 on the 76 and E400 on the 49
Enviros aren't unusual on the 49, last time I rode a 49 about 1 in 4 buses I saw were Enviros
Enviros on the 49 are unusual I'd say and having lived in the area briefly I would know
WN 1684 - 62A - 1400 - Darlington Street Wolverhampton
1913 also on the 49E, along with 4742 on either 49E or 49, all added to 1413 posted earlier, a good day for spotters on that route!
1652 on the 74
4086 on the 80
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
1652 on the 74
4086 on the 80
1652 was seen on the 48 later in the day. I think it swapped with 4636, which was on the 48 in the morning
Quote from: uniquicity on December 12, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
1652 on the 74
4086 on the 80
1652 was seen on the 48 later in the day. I think it swapped with 4636, which was on the 48 in the morning
I saw 1652 in West Brom around half 9, makes sense to swop the 2. They must have both been in West Brom at the same time to be swopped
Quote from: Ashley on December 12, 2013, 12:02:10 AM
I don't know if these count as unusual but
WN 1679 - 59 - seen at WN bus station just after 1030
WN 639 - 32 - WN bus station 1030
PE 4135 - 244 - Dudley Bus Station 2300
1679 on the 59 again! (Was on yesterday) but it must have been taken off as it wasn't on there at 3PM
There is a 473# E400 on WA 89 today
Quote from: Ashley on December 12, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
Enviros on the 49 are unusual I'd say and having lived in the area briefly I would know
WN 1684 - 62A - 1400 - Darlington Street Wolverhampton
If they are unusual then I have about 4 "unusual" workings from last time (and most times) I've done the 49
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 05:20:25 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 12, 2013, 02:12:22 PM
Enviros on the 49 are unusual I'd say and having lived in the area briefly I would know
WN 1684 - 62A - 1400 - Darlington Street Wolverhampton
If they are unusual then I have about 4 "unusual" workings from last time (and most times) I've done the 49
To save any arguments, I see the 49 every day, and Enviros WERE unusual, but since the Trident move out, they're pretty usual. B10's and Omnisheds, on the other hand...
Apoligies Matt and LS
Also LS. Good description "Omnisheds"
I don't know, I'm starting to appreciate the Omnilinks a bit more now; ok some of the seats near the rear can be a little uncomfortable, but they can be (in the hands of the right driver) quite nippy, the one I caught home this evening must have been running a little late, and as the traffic seemed a bit lighter this evening, managed to pick up a good speed down the Stratford Road (within the limits of course!) and on the Warwick Road into Acocks Green.
I like the Scanias; good looking buses that are relatively comfortable. They're speedy and seem comfortable to drive. Only improvement would be maybe a better interior quality such as Mercedes Citaros as some of the panels as they occasionally creak on corners.
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 12, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
I like the Scanias; good looking buses that are relatively comfortable. They're speedy and seem comfortable to drive. Only improvement would be maybe a better interior quality such as Mercedes Citaros as some of the panels as they occasionally creak on corners.
...and doors that open and close a bit quicker
Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 12, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
I like the Scanias; good looking buses that are relatively comfortable. They're speedy and seem comfortable to drive. Only improvement would be maybe a better interior quality such as Mercedes Citaros as some of the panels as they occasionally creak on corners.
...and doors that open and close a bit quicker
I don't know whether its just the fact that drivers have gotten used to it now, but I don't really seem to encounter this problem anymore, not on AG's Scanias anyway.
I think there was an All Day board of a B7RLE on the 24, both of my sightings were in Harborne, both in each direction (around 8am, towards City - around 4pm towards Woodgate Valley)
Yesterday (Wed) PB Enviro 400 4856 on 7.
Quote from: clayderman on December 12, 2013, 08:01:31 PM
I think there was an All Day board of a B7RLE on the 24, both of my sightings were in Harborne, both in each direction (around 8am, towards City - around 4pm towards Woodgate Valley)
Saw one coming through harborne towards the city about half 6
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 01:46:26 PM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 12, 2013, 12:51:05 PM
E400 on the 49
Enviros aren't unusual on the 49, last time I rode a 49 about 1 in 4 buses I saw were Enviros
Thanks, will be aware next time! (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fsmiley-basic%2Fsmile.gif&hash=1a5545bce897a0493ff96ee191f6d744b5345738)
42**- 48
E200 on 48. Everytime I've seen the 48 this week there's been 4 Mercs and a different bus on there. Monday it was a 45** Gemini, yesterday it was 4292
Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2013, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: clayderman on December 12, 2013, 08:01:31 PM
I think there was an All Day board of a B7RLE on the 24, both of my sightings were in Harborne, both in each direction (around 8am, towards City - around 4pm towards Woodgate Valley)
Saw one coming through harborne towards the city about half 6
Talking of Harborne routes.. Mike K I'm looking in your direction; just saying - Why not convert the 22/3/4 to single deck, have it all fully interwork, and maybe this'll make for a more reliable service all round. Either that or make the 29 double deck - what road isn't suitable for deckers on the 29 at the moment?
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 08:42:10 PM
Talking of Harborne routes.. Mike K I'm looking in your direction; just saying - Why not convert the 22/3/4 to single deck, have it all fully interwork, and maybe this'll make for a more reliable service all round. Either that or make the 29 double deck - what road isn't suitable for deckers on the 29 at the moment?
Black Haynes and Swarthmore Rd
I reported long time ago that 4429 appeared on the 29 and I was on it, it took long to get through those roads
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Wolverhampton?
And the loadings aren't that good - a full size single decker would suffice.
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 12, 2013, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 08:42:10 PM
Talking of Harborne routes.. Mike K I'm looking in your direction; just saying - Why not convert the 22/3/4 to single deck, have it all fully interwork, and maybe this'll make for a more reliable service all round. Either that or make the 29 double deck - what road isn't suitable for deckers on the 29 at the moment?
Black Haynes and Swarthmore Rd
I reported long time ago that 4429 appeared on the 29 and I was on it, it took long to get through those roads
"Took long" - what do you mean?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
Black Haynes and Swarthmore Rd
I reported long time ago that 4429 appeared on the 29 and I was on it, it took long to get through those roads
Quote"Took long" - what do you mean?
It took 20 minutes to get through those roads
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 12, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 12, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
Black Haynes and Swarthmore Rd
I reported long time ago that 4429 appeared on the 29 and I was on it, it took long to get through those roads
Quote"Took long" - what do you mean?
It took 20 minutes to get through those roads
Well yes but a single decker could take just as long with the same driver? What's the reason it took long is what I guess I was supposed to ask.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
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Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
I was referring to when the frequency lowers to every 20 minutes after 5pm, my good friend lives on the 24, and we've often have to catch it to his house, usually quite busy after 5 due to the frequency drop
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
I was referring to when the frequency lowers to every 20 minutes after 5pm, my good friend lives on the 24, and we've often have to catch it to his house, usually quite busy after 5 due to the frequency drop
Fair point, however I do think the 22 and 23 could most of the time cope with B7RLEs
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
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Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
I was referring to when the frequency lowers to every 20 minutes after 5pm, my good friend lives on the 24, and we've often have to catch it to his house, usually quite busy after 5 due to the frequency drop
Fair point, however I do think the 22 and 23 could most of the time cope with B7RLEs
If I'm honest, the bulk of passengers are all for Harborne anyway, and not a considerable amount go further then where the routes splits. Very nice routes 22/23 were, but possibly be better for the other HB routes if they all truely interworked? (Excluding 99 obviously)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
I was referring to when the frequency lowers to every 20 minutes after 5pm, my good friend lives on the 24, and we've often have to catch it to his house, usually quite busy after 5 due to the frequency drop
Fair point, however I do think the 22 and 23 could most of the time cope with B7RLEs
Loads are certainly light, as I stated in my earlier post. It would be nice to get all Harborne routes using the same buses, maybe with some Network Harborne branding
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 12, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 12, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Where would the hybrids be allocated if the 22/3/ were allocated sd's? What are the loadings like during the day on the 22/3/4?
Usually pretty light. 24 can get busy Saturday evenings when frequency lowers
The 29 is the busiest of thr four routes in my experience, especially in the evening
I was referring to when the frequency lowers to every 20 minutes after 5pm, my good friend lives on the 24, and we've often have to catch it to his house, usually quite busy after 5 due to the frequency drop
Fair point, however I do think the 22 and 23 could most of the time cope with B7RLEs
Loads are certainly light, as I stated in my earlier post. It would be nice to get all Harborne routes using the same buses, maybe with some Network Harborne branding
I'd agree that daytime loadings are quite light but at peak times single deckers wouldn't be suitable on the 22/23 without a decent frequency increase. I typically only use the bus in rush hour and there's a considerable volume of passengers between Harborne baths and city. Saturday daytime can also sometimes be busy. The 29 probably seems the busiest because the B7RLEs aren't always suitable. All it takes is one to be a few minutes late and it's wedged.
Given the peak loadings I can't see how full B7RLE operation on the Harborne corridor could work. I don't travel along Black Haynes Road and Swarthmore Road these days but in years gone by the old Northfield to Woodgate Valley 20 route always used double deckers without a problem. Is it a tree problem these days?
Still not migrated south, but noted around Sutton this morning, were 4723 (907) and 4727 (904/115)
1694 on 5 in Sutton - not seen one 'o they over here for ages.
7021 on 71. Only mentioned because I can't remember if this was the one Rob wanted confirmation had moved to AG, and there's too many posts to trawl back ...... ;D
BC809 on the 14 towards Chelmsley Wood. Seen at Saltley at 2.15pm
AG 2123 5 Solihull Town Centre 10:30am
seen at wheatshief 0835 going Solihull a trident on 957
3605 on West Brom 46
Spectra on WN82
2012 on WN27
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 13, 2013, 03:18:19 PM
seen at wheatshief 0835 going Solihull a trident on 957
You seen either 4434 or 4438 as they were both on the 957 today :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 13, 2013, 04:33:45 PM
Spectra on WN82
2012 on WN27
Neither of these are very unusual Nath :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 13, 2013, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 13, 2013, 04:33:45 PM
Spectra on WN82
2012 on WN27
Neither of these are very unusual Nath :)
Haven't seen these workings for a bit Matt. I was going to put only slightly unusual as they aren't certainly the most common workings.
WN 4606 - 1 - Lichfield street WN - 1625
WN 1670 or 1677 - 3 or 4 - passed it on the Merridale Road about 1640ish WN bound
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
WN 4606 - 1 - Lichfield street WN - 1625
WN 1670 or 1677 - 3 or 4 - passed it on the Merridale Road about 1640ish WN bound
I wonder if any Hybrids are out of action at the moment because there seems to be less B5's on the 59 too with some unbranded B5's being used on the 1 so I wonder if its any E400H's or branded B5's Out Of Action?
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 13, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
AG 2123 5 Solihull Town Centre 10:30am
Was still on the 5 this evening, saw it heading towards city on the Stratford Road.
5 WN green machines are having MOT's done this week which could explain it
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
5 WN green machines are having MOT's done this week which could explain it
How frequently do buses require MOTs?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 13, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
5 WN green machines are having MOT's done this week which could explain it
How frequently do buses require MOTs?
Every year but Vehicle Inspection every month/4weeks
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 13, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 13, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
5 WN green machines are having MOT's done this week which could explain it
How frequently do buses require MOTs?
Every year but Vehicle Inspection every month/4weeks
Is this their first MOT then?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 13, 2013, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 13, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 13, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
5 WN green machines are having MOT's done this week which could explain it
How frequently do buses require MOTs?
Every year but Vehicle Inspection every month/4weeks
Is this their first MOT then?
Ashley, where did you get that from. Mots today were not 5 hybrids.
As they entered service in March/April this year, the WN hybrids wouldn't need an MOT until that time next year.
Quote from: Stu on December 13, 2013, 07:28:31 PM
As they entered service in March/April this year, the WN hybrids wouldn't need an MOT until that time next year.
That's what I was thinking Stu, I thought it seemed too obvious...
To be honest most hybrids have been done now only 19,20 and 21 left to MOT
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 14, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
left Broad Street roughly about 15/20 minutes ago might be less, could be less on the 127 heading for Oldbury
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 14, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
Definitely not the first. I've seen it, and recorded it, a couple of months ago... Possibly last spring? It was during the diversions in the City...
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:21:34 AM
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
left Broad Street roughly about 15/20 minutes ago might be less, could be less on the 127 heading for Oldbury
The 128 goes to Oldbury. The 127 goes to Blackheath ;)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
But would this be a first for a Saturday? Wasn't the last E200 on the 127/8/9 on a Weekday?
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
But would this be a first for a Saturday? Wasn't the last E200 on the 127/8/9 on a Weekday?
Last time was on a Tuesday:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2091.msg58431#msg58431
Trident-53/289
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 14, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Trident-53/289
I thought the 53/289 were trident operated? (Even on a Saturday). Well they were trident operated a few Saturdays back when I looked
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 14, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
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Trident-53/289
Is this rare anymore? Can't keep up
Would 100% say it is not rare because last time I checked Tridents were the main type of bus on there
just one from me today
4433 on 957 to Solihull seen at wheatsheif 1105
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 14, 2013, 11:16:32 AM
just one from me today
4433 on 957 to Solihull seen at wheatsheif 1105
Tridents on the 957 are becoming a common working recently presumably due to 2 E400's off the road
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
Which direction was it going in?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
Which direction was it going in?
To Wolverhampton. If I am correct, it should depart from Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:55am.
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4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
Which direction was it going in?
To Wolverhampton. If I am correct, it should depart from Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:55am.
Yes it will do the 11:55,13:55,15:55 and 17:55 departures from Wolverhampton
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 14, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Trident-53/289
The 53/289 should be mostly DD, including Saturday. I have only seen Tridents and 1553 on there today.
WB 812 - 49
WB Merc - 45, is this unusual?
There's also an ALX200 on the 47/A
Mercs and E200's are the usual buses on the 45 Matt :)
Also ALX200's are regular on the 47/A aren't they or is it just B6's now?
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
I shall venture upto WA later to try find this as its one I need;
Picture of 811;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/8606268071/in/set-72157632424341838
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
I shall venture up to WA later to try find this as it's one I need;
Picture of 811;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/8606268071/in/set-72157632424341838
4681 departs from Walsall Bus Station at 12:55, 14:55, and 16:55.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
I shall venture upto WA later to try find this as its one I need;
Picture of 811;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/8606268071/in/set-72157632424341838
The link you have put in actually leads to 824 not 811
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
I shall venture upto WA later to try find this as its one I need;
Picture of 811;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/8606268071/in/set-72157632424341838
The link you have put in actually leads to 824 not 811
Thanks Nathan;
Heres 811
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11365916616/
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Mercs and E200's are the usual buses on the 45 Matt :)
Also ALX200's are regular on the 47/A aren't they or is it just B6's now?
Nope, just B6s as far as I know
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Mercs and E200's are the usual buses on the 45 Matt :)
It is usually O405Ns and B6LEs on the 45
Quote from: John on December 14, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Mercs and E200's are the usual buses on the 45 Matt :)
It is usually O405Ns and B6LEs on the 45
Oh ok John :) last time I saw the 45 it had E200's on there
b6le on the 1E to wolverhampton
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 14, 2013, 12:01:50 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 14, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Trident-53/289
The 53/289 should be mostly DD, including Saturday. I have only seen Tridents and 1553 on there today.
WB 812 - 49
WB Merc - 45, is this unusual?
There's also an ALX200 on the 47/A
No it shouldn't and 1546 is on there as well
4598 on the 256/257
Quote from: John on December 14, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
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b6le on the 1E to wolverhampton
That's a good one ;)
Think it may be going back to the garage after that route due to it being a 1E
18** - 10
Quote from: Jon on December 14, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
4598 on the 256/257
Not really unusual having a trident on a trident route despite route branding for the 529.
I saw this at 6am this morning depart Wolverhampton on the 255 (In branded buses off route thread)
Btw great spot dom with the B6 on the 1 :)
Quote from: domino.99 on December 14, 2013, 02:49:59 PM
Quote from: John on December 14, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on December 14, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
b6le on the 1E to wolverhampton
That's a good one ;)
Think it may be going back to the garage after that route due to it being a 1E
Or might have been running late
Quote from: domino.99 on December 14, 2013, 02:49:59 PM
Quote from: John on December 14, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
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b6le on the 1E to wolverhampton
That's a good one ;)
Think it may be going back to the garage after that route due to it being a 1E
There are no timetabled 1E's to Wolverhampton until late afternoon on a Saturday. Therefore if a B6 did a 1E to Wolverhampton today it is likely to have turned at Wolverhampton so would still be out.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368449175/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368449175/
Must have been the one I went on earlier between town and Reedswood.
5514 on the 126 just passed me at the markets in brum
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368449175/
I can see you finally got the picture. Was happy to help you.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 14, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
left Broad Street roughly about 15/20 minutes ago might be less, could be less on the 127 heading for Oldbury
I remember going on an E200 on the 129 before, I posted the working somewhere
and the 127 goes Blackheath lol
unless you meant the 128 :P
Quote from: OH25 on December 14, 2013, 07:19:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 14, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
811 - 127/8/9 - Would this be the first E200 On the 127/8/9 ?
Nope, it's happened before, not very common at all though. Do you know when, where and which route? Might see if I can find it on the 129 ::)
left Broad Street roughly about 15/20 minutes ago might be less, could be less on the 127 heading for Oldbury
I remember going on an E200 on the 129 before, I posted the working somewhere
and the 127 goes Blackheath lol
unless you meant the 128 :P
sorry guys was just catching up didn't realise how far behind I was :o
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 04:03:17 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2013, 11:27:21 AM
4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368449175/
I can see you finally got the picture. Was happy to help you.
And thanks to your post I managed to ride it on the 15:55 departure from Wolverhampton ;) Thanks for posting that working and great spot :)
P419 EJW thanks for the info, now I only need 2 gems from wa to complete it(:
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4681 on (WA) 69, saw it in Coppice Farm at 11:26am.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368449175/
I can see you finally got the picture. Was happy to help you.
And thanks to your post I managed to ride it on the 15:55 departure from Wolverhampton ;) Thanks for posting that working and great spot :)
That is kind of you, you are welcome and thank you! 😄
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P419 EJW thanks for the info, now I only need 2 gems from wa to complete it(:
You are welcome, good luck getting the last two. 😊
PB 1844 on 904.
Matt, Mercs on WB45 are daily occurances
Quote from: Ashley on December 14, 2013, 11:39:30 PM
Matt, Mercs on WB45 are daily occurances
Cheers Ashley, I did think that but was just checking.
One final addition for tonight is AG 1947 on the 5.
534 on 46, 15.50 ex scott arms.
Is an OmniLink (1883) on the 34 unusual for a Sunday. The 39 was on 1776, I guess B7RLEs are the usual allocation
Quote from: John on December 15, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
Is an OmniLink (1883) on the 34 unusual for a Sunday. The 39 was on 1776, I guess B7RLEs are the usual allocation
Both the 34/39 are usually B7RLE operated on Sundays but Omnilinks do appear
4906 on 60 to Birmingham seen at digbeth 1145
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 15, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
4906 on 60 to Birmingham seen at digbeth 1145
These are quite usual (imo), it probably would've been unusual had a branded bus (900 or 957) was on the 60. ;)
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Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 15, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
4906 on 60 to Birmingham seen at digbeth 1145
These are quite usual (imo), it probably would've been unusual had a branded bus (900 or 957) was on the 60. ;)
Even on a Sunday?
1458 - 7
Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
Quote from: John on December 16, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
The E400 on the 7 is 4769
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: John on December 16, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
The E400 on the 7 is 4769
As reported by Nathan4775 on the previous page
824 246 saw 15 minutes ago at Brierley Hill Stourbridge bound
Quote from: John on December 16, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
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Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
The E400 on the 7 is 4769
As reported by Nathan4775 on the previous page
No he hasn't
I meant the Walsall thread...
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 16, 2013, 01:49:18 PM
4769 out on the 7. Is it just me or when there's an E400 on the 7 its 4769 ?
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: John on December 16, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
The E400 on the 7 is 4769
As reported by Nathan4775 on the previous page
He reported it in the the Walsall Garage thread Matt. I was just telling John which E400 it was as he didn't catch the fleetnumber
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Leather seated Enviro400s on both the 7 and 77 in Walsall today
The E400 on the 7 is 4769
As reported by Nathan4775 on the previous page
He reported it in the the Walsall Garage thread Matt. I was just telling John which E400 it was as he didn't catch the fleetnumber
Yes that's what I meant. He was correct to post it in that thread, as an E400 on the 7 is not unusual.
Didn't say he was wrong to post it in the Walsall Garage thread :) And tbh E400's on the 7 aren't exactly a regular occurance
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:35 PM
And tbh E400's on the 7 aren't exactly a regular occurance
I would have to agree with this. Usually Tridents and B7RLEs. A B10L was back on there today as well
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 05:16:35 PM
And tbh E400's on the 7 aren't exactly a regular occurance
I would have to agree with this. Usually Tridents and B7RLEs. A B10L was back on there today as well
iirc weren't B10's the main allocation before they made B7RLE's the main allocation
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iirc weren't B10's the main allocation before they made B7RLE's the main allocation
Yes B10Ls were usually on the 7, then at some point, B7RLEs and a Trident were made the usual allocation
Quote from: John on December 16, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
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iirc weren't B10's the main allocation before they made B7RLE's the main allocation
Yes B10Ls were usually on the 7, then at some point, B7RLEs and a Trident were made the usual allocation
Well at first a trident was allocated to a certain board that covered the busy school trip iirc but they just appear regually on any board
Thats a good spot Nathan :) wish B10's were still on WA7
4022 255 on the 1730 ex merry hill to wolverhampton
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
4022 255 on the 1730 ex merry hill to wolverhampton
It replaced 4587 which was taken out of service this morning.
For the record 4723/27/30 working all day on the 115/914 roster - managed to ride 4727/30
Also 1863 on the 914 around midday, which again I luckily caught - much chuntering from three old ladies getting onboard at Lidl, Pype Hayes ....
"Well you don't usually see a single deck bus on this route - fair threw me, it did ...."
Quite, Madam! ;D
2133 on the 97A
Quote from: clayderman on December 16, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
2133 on the 97A
B7RLE's aren't really that unusual on the 97/A/P
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2133 on the 97A
B7RLE's aren't really that unusual on the 97/A/P
I'd say its worth a mention though. Regardless of status of Unusualness.
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824 246 saw 15 minutes ago at Brierley Hill Stourbridge bound
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/11407940955/
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824 246 saw 15 minutes ago at Brierley Hill Stourbridge bound
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/11407940955/
It looks empty
5515 was on WN11 this morning, that broke down and has been replaced by 5510
Saw 5510 on the 11 this afternoon (As reported by Ashley)departing Wolverhampton Bus Station about 15:25. (As Ashley mentioned it was the replacement for 1 branded 5515)
Very rare to get any hybrids on the 11 at anytime let alone a branded example then for another B5 (Unbranded 5510) to replace it is even more rare
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 04:14:23 PM
Saw 5510 on the 11 this afternoon (As reported by Ashley)departing Wolverhampton Bus Station about 15:25. (As Ashley mentioned it was the replacement for 1 branded 5515)
Very rare to get any hybrids on the 11 at anytime let alone a branded example then for another B5 (Unbranded 5510) to replace it is even more rare
That's something I've noticed before, sometimes when a bus on an unusual route breaks down, it is replaced by another unusual working (usually the same type), I wonder why. These include
5515 > 5510 on 11
4445 > 4621 on 900
Spectra > Merc on 256
and many other occasions
Maybe due to less buses being avaliable in the garage meaning you will most Lilley get another unusual type for that route
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Maybe due to less buses being avaliable in the garage meaning you will most Lilley get another unusual type for that route
That is one possible reason but seems unlikely given many of these changes occur in the evening.
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
Maybe due to less buses being avaliable in the garage meaning you will most Lilley get another unusual type for that route
That is one possible reason but seems unlikely given many of these changes occur in the evening.
I wonder if 5515 was allocated from start of service or if it replaced another broken down bus on that board.
According to a friend of mine, spotted 547 on 69 today.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 17, 2013, 05:09:29 PM
According to a friend of mine, spotted 547 on 69 today.
Thought I saw a B6 in Wednesfield this afternoon but assumed it was on WN 25
about 12pm in Dudley I saw:
626 on the 27
4353 on the 276
2001 on the 82
2154 on the 246
Quote from: OH25 on December 17, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
about 12pm in Dudley I saw:
626 on the 27
4353 on the 276
2001 on the 82
2154 on the 246
All are normal apart from the last one
Quote from: OH25 on December 17, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
about 12pm in Dudley I saw:
626 on the 27
4353 on the 276
2001 on the 82
2154 on the 246
B6s are the main allocation on the 27 alongside Tridents.
Tridents, Enviros and Mercs are all common on the 276.
B7RLEs aren't that unusual on the 82, 2154 on the 246 is a good spot though.
I usually find that the 27 is B6 operated and the 27A trident operated (Both routes don't interwork apart from early morning/Early evening Journeys)
As I said in my last post all are common except 2154 on the 246
2010 on WN126, seen at Broad Street, ICC. I know they're quite common now, but, something worth metioning imo...
4004 was on the 255 earlier
547 can't have been on the 69 as it was on 70A's all day today
5515 was allocated to the 11 at start of service but only did two trips before failing. 5510 was on from 1133 onwards
Suprised nobody today saw...
WN 1682 - 529 - just before 1530 at Walsall Bus Station
WN 1686 - 4 - around 1310 on Waterloo Road Wolverhampton
Quote from: Ashley on December 17, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
547 can't have been on the 69 as it was on 70A all day today
5515 was allocated to the 11 at start of service but only did two trips before failing. 5510 was on from 1133 onwards
Suprised nobody today saw...
WN 1682 - 529 - just before 1530 at Walsall Bus Station
WN 1686 - 4 - around 1310 on Waterloo Road Wolverhampton
Okay, I take it my friend was incorrect. My apologies on her behalf.
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 04:57:48 PM
Maybe due to less buses being avaliable in the garage meaning you will most Lilley get another unusual type for that route
That is one possible reason but seems unlikely given many of these changes occur in the evening.
During the evening many boards finish and the reduced frequency for evening timetables starts. More buses therefore become 'available' as replacements. Most buses to finish will be on high frequency routes such as 1 2 59 529 126. It is easier to swap these over in the bus station as they finish to replace a faulty bus which is just comming into the bus station. Instead of bringing a bus from the garage (which at this time of the evening is a hype of activity) as most of the hybrids are allocated to 1 & 59 that's why they end up on unusual routes. I know some drivers will deliberately ask a driver to swap their bus (usually spectra's) so they have a better bus for their shift (or at least they used to)
4538 on WN1 today.
BC 2136 957 Lode Heath School 07:50
Just seen AG 2112 on the 31 bound for Solihull in Acocks Green, about 9:40.
(Was quite well suited actually as there were only about five people on board! ;D)
4815 - 120
Ex Coventry Scania - 94
E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
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E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
The 99 ?
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E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
Where in Birmingham did you see it Nathan?
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E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
Also what way did it enter the city
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 02:45:13 PM
E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
Could it have been PE's 824? I know the rear LED of that bus isn't working
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E200 entered town on on either a BC/wB route, due to the rear led not working couldn't see the route
Could it have been PE's 824? I know the rear LED of that bus isn't working
If Nathan saw it on Colmore Row/Snow Hill Queensway, then it might have been 824
Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
It could have been 824 then on either the 120, 140, or maybe even a 141
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:39:21 PM
Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
Could have still been 824 on the 120/140 or 141?
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
4568 on the 82 (Not rare but i think it is worth a mention)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 18, 2013, 04:42:17 PM
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Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
Could have still been 824 on the 120/140 or 141?
Could have been one of WBs on the 127/128/129.
(could have been one of PEs on the 9 also!)
Or could have been one of BCs on the 22, 23, 24 or 29?
::)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
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Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
Could have still been 824 on the 120/140 or 141?
Could have been one of WBs on the 127/128/129.
(could have been one of PEs on the 9 also!)
Or could have been one of BCs on the 22, 23, 24 or 29?
::)
Saw 824 on the 120 today at Dudley ;)
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Quote from: Stu on December 18, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 18, 2013, 04:42:17 PM
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Just came off Broad Street heading for Birmingham.
Could have still been 824 on the 120/140 or 141?
Could have been one of WBs on the 127/128/129.
(could have been one of PEs on the 9 also!)
Or could have been one of BCs on the 22, 23, 24 or 29?
::)
Saw 824 on the 120 today at Dudley ;)
Must have been 824 then :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 18, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
None of Perry Barr's services use Broad Street though. ;)
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 18, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 18, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
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I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
9 is 8 buses per hour, 120 is 6 buses per hour, 140 is 2 buses per hour, 141 is 2 buses per hour.
8+6+2+2 = 18
60 minutes / 18 buses = just over 3 minutes per bus
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
9 is 8 buses per hour, 120 is 6 buses per hour, 140 is 2 buses per hour, 141 is 2 buses per hour.
8+6+2+2 = 18
60 minutes / 18 buses = just over 3 minutes per bus
The 140/141 create a 15 minute frequency. The 9 is every 7/8 minutes. The 120 is every 10 minutes. I get your point, but they don't overall create an every 3 minute co-ordinate frequency. You'll see a 9 approximately every 5 minutes or less in both directions
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
9 is 8 buses per hour, 120 is 6 buses per hour, 140 is 2 buses per hour, 141 is 2 buses per hour.
8+6+2+2 = 18
60 minutes / 18 buses = just over 3 minutes per bus
The 140/141 create a 15 minute frequency. The 9 is every 7/8 minutes. The 120 is every 10 minutes. I get your point, but they don't overall create an every 3 minute co-ordinate frequency. You'll see a 9 approximately every 5 minutes or less in both directions
Correct, but then you might get 3 buses running together, that's why I said they create an
average frequency of just over 3 minutes
BC's frequency along Broad Street is roughly the same:
22 - 4 bph, 23 - 4 bph, 24 - 5 bph, 29 - 3 bph, 29A - 3 bph
Total of 19 buses per hour, so average frequency of 60/19 minutes, which is slightly greater than Pensnett
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
I forgot PE ran down Broad Street, so could have been.
You forgot Pensnett ran down Broad Street? A Pensnett bus runs down Broad Street at an average of nearly every 3 minutes during the day each direction
Surely can't be an average of every 3 minutes. The most frequent PE routes to Birmingham are the 9 (every 7/8) & the 120 (every 10). There is a bus almost every 3 minutes to Perry Barr with the 33 & 51 both being every 7/8 minutes
9 is 8 buses per hour, 120 is 6 buses per hour, 140 is 2 buses per hour, 141 is 2 buses per hour.
8+6+2+2 = 18
60 minutes / 18 buses = just over 3 minutes per bus
The 140/141 create a 15 minute frequency. The 9 is every 7/8 minutes. The 120 is every 10 minutes. I get your point, but they don't overall create an every 3 minute co-ordinate frequency. You'll see a 9 approximately every 5 minutes or less in both directions
Correct, but then you might get 3 buses running together, that's why I said they create an average frequency of just over 3 minutes
BC's frequency along Broad Street is roughly the same:
22 - 4 bph, 23 - 4 bph, 24 - 5 bph, 29 - 3 bph, 29A - 3 bph
Total of 19 buses per hour, so average frequency of 60/19 minutes, which is slightly greater than Pensnett
The 22/23 and 24/29/29A do create a co-ordinated frequency. So in theory, you could expect a bus every 2-5 minutes etc. 22/23 create an every 7/8 minutes frequency and the 24/29/A (Monday-Friday) every 5 minutes.
AG1932 on the 71 this afternoon, makes a change from the usual dull Volvo's.
PN Trident on 140/241 tonight, 23:15 ex Halesowen.
Have noticed this board has been getting solid B7s for quite a while despite it coming out of the garage mid-afternoon
18.12.13
WN 555 on 79 (For at least 2 trips)
Also CV 2174 I saw in Willenhall (nice to see a bit of colour in Willenhall) :P
WN 4577 on the 26 just getting into wolverhampton
Is a 20xx bus unusual on PL59?
B7RLE on WN59 would be unusual but the experts will no doubt tell you later
As for 4577 on WN26, I bet that got ripped or will get ripped (swapped in normal english)
Yesterday;
My friend told me 4778 was out on the 38
From my brother
4347 on route 243 seen on Blowers Green Road at 1343 merry hill bound
The dreaded 1914 is on 35 today.
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Quote from: trident4370 on December 19, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
The dreaded 1914 is on 35 today.
What's wrong with 1914?
It used to have a very bad door system that liked opening while the bus was in motion, may have been fixed by now but I still dread catching it!
Quote from: Ashley on December 19, 2013, 12:10:05 PM
B7RLE on WN59 would be unusual but the experts will no doubt tell you later
As for 4577 on WN26, I bet that got ripped or will get ripped (swapped in normal english)
Would 4577 have been on 62's also?
Both 2007/2027 are on WN59 today
seen at wheatsheif 1510 4903 operating 60 to cranes park
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 19, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
seen at wheatsheif 1510 4903 operating 60 to cranes park
Thought E400's were common on the 60?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
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seen at wheatsheif 1510 4903 operating 60 to cranes park
Thought E400's were common on the 60?
they are becoming quite common in the week (mon/fri)
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 19, 2013, 03:30:46 PM
seen at wheatsheif 1510 4903 operating 60 to cranes park
Thought E400's were common on the 60?
they are becoming quite common in the week (mon/fri)
So why did you reort it if it wasn't unusual?
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The dreaded 1914 is on 35 today.
What's wrong with 1914?
It used to have a very bad door system that liked opening while the bus was in motion, may have been fixed by now but I still dread catching it!
Fair point. It should be rectified as that sounds like an interlock issue.
632 on WN59
4869 and a B10L on the 301
824 on 120 again :)
Earlier this evening, saw what I think was AG 4052 (it was a little too far away to be 100% sure) on the 31A to Shirley Green, passing through Acocks Green village.
Unidentified hybrid on the 126 heading out of brum just now
1434 > 77
Quote from: Kevin on December 19, 2013, 11:10:55 PM
Unidentified hybrid on the 126 heading out of brum just now
B5 or E400H? I did notice only 5513 was on the 59 yesterday so could have been 5510/11/12/14
It was a B5LH, think it was the 21:45 departure off Wolves. I passed it at burnt Tree at 22:20ish
A B7RLE re appeared on WN59 for one of the last trips last night, was too far away to get a fleetnumber
Quote from: Ashley on December 20, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
It was a B5LH, think it was the 21:45 departure off Wolves. I passed it at burnt Tree at 22:20ish
A B7RLE re appeared on WN59 for one of the last trips last night, was too far away to get a fleetnumber
2027 broke down at the bus station about 19:25 so probably replaced that
4612 on 957 to Solihull seen at Wheatsheif 1210
WB3610 46 yesterday evening at 20.00.
BC 809 - Enviro200 - 47 - Unknown if peak etc
1881 - 34/38
0582 - 34/38
808 all day 14, was fun to watch everyone try to get on this ;D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11465323975/
1671 on WN 26 today
1686 came out onto WN 59 at Lunchtime too
Quote from: Ashley on December 20, 2013, 09:47:52 AM
It was a B5LH, think it was the 21:45 departure off Wolves. I passed it at burnt Tree at 22:20ish
A B7RLE re appeared on WN59 for one of the last trips last night, was too far away to get a fleetnumber
It was 2003 on the 59 last night. It replaced 4017 I believe so I wonder what replaced defective 2027 which was due to be on a late evening board.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
1671 on WN 26 today
1686 came out onto WN 59 at Lunchtime too
1686 was hovering (not literally) around at 15:15-15:30, I was unsure if it was on or off.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 20, 2013, 04:11:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
1671 on WN 26 today
1686 came out onto WN 59 at Lunchtime too
1686 was hovering (not literally) around at 15:15-15:30, I was unsure if it was on or off.
Think 1686 was running pretty late when I saw it
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Spectra's,Tridents and B5's LS
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 20, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
1434 > 77
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11465491133/
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Spectra's,Tridrnts and B5's LS
...but it's not rare to get anything?
There is a B6LE usually allocated to the morning peak board. B7RLE have become more common recently.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 20, 2013, 04:27:14 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Spectra's,Tridrnts and B5's LS
...but it's not rare to get anything?
There is a B6LE usually allocated to the morning peak board. B7RLE have become more common recently.
So much like BC's 24 route then.. I vaguely recall someone else making that connection.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Spectra's,Tridrnts and B5's LS
...but it's not rare to get anything?
B7RLEs and Mercs are fairly common, certainly not unusual and a B6 is on every morning as NXWM Spectra states, the only type at Wolverhampton that you can really call unusual on the 59 is the Enviro400H, or a B6 on all day.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 05:11:03 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:20:56 PM
So whats the correct allocation for the WN59?
Spectra's,Tridrnts and B5's LS
...but it's not rare to get anything?
B7RLEs and Mercs are fairly common, certainly not unusual and a B6 is on every morning as NXWM Spectra states, the only type at Wolverhampton that you can really call unusual on the 59 is the Enviro400H, or a B6 on all day.
I've wondered... why B5LH's but no E400H's? Seems weird as surely it'll want to demonstrate to both drivers and passengers the different hybrid types?
LS,All 12 E400H at WN are all branded for route 1 so thatsvwhy they are unusual on the 59.
Tbh Less single deckers have been appearing recently but i believe there are tridents in for MOT so single deckers are covering. Plus Sd's are usually replacement buses for defective ones and aren't regually allocated from start of service
There are two peak boards in the morning on the 59
59/09 is usually a trident or a B7RLE
The second board is usually a B6 or Merc (A B7RLE a fewvtimes this week)
59/14 is the afternoon peak board (Depart garage 15:10) and is usually a Trident or Spectra but can be anything from garage
Anyway i will go back on topic.
I was told that there was a Spectra on the 126 yesterday
Saw a Spectra on the 25A near Wednesfield this afternoon going towards Bilston
Scania (I think it was 1886) on the 40/1 unusual or not
There was an E200 on the 14. Think it was 808. Peak PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
Scania (I think it was 1886) on the 40/1 unusual or not
I would say it was borderline unusual Nathan :)
Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 20, 2013, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 20, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
1434 > 77
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11465491133/
Still out there....
See he fixed the front lol was driving around with only 7 at the front earlier thinking to myself doesnt that go to castlefort lol :)
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 20, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
There was an E200 on the 14. Think it was 808. Peak PM
Its been out all day :D
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 07:39:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
Scania (I think it was 1886) on the 40/1 unusual or not
I would say it was borderline unusual Nathan :)
Thanks :)
Scanias are pretty much daily on WA40/41 to both Nathans, even one on last sundays 40
Spectras have been on WN25/A alot recently as well
4556 and 4562 on WN1 today
Quote from: Ashley on December 20, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
Scanias are pretty much daily on WA40/41 to both Nathans, even one on last sundays 40
Spectras have been on WN25/A alot recently as well
4556 and 4562 on WN1 today
Thanks Ash :) I have been at school during the weekdays so haven't seen all these workings :)
No i know. Just an attempt to be useful and informative for a change
PN 824 - 276/07. This includes the 8pm 244 trip.
It was me who made the connection between the 59 and 24. The routes themselves are also similar in a way.
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
It was me who made the connection between the 59 and 24. The routes themselves are also similar in a way.
What was that in reply to?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
It was me who made the connection between the 59 and 24. The routes themselves are also similar in a way.
What was that in reply to?
A post from LS on the previous page but my phone won't let me quote as you know
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
PN 824 - 276/07. This includes the 8pm 244 trip.
Interesting, it was on the X96 at lunchtime???
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
PN 824 - 276/07. This includes the 8pm 244 trip.
Interesting, it was on the X96 at lunchtime???
Not any more. I presume a Merc gave up
4048-83/89 and a 14 branded trident on the 22/23
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 20, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
4048-83/89 and a 14 branded trident on the 22/23
President on the 83/89 isn't unusual.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 20, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
4048-83/89 and a 14 branded trident on the 22/23
President on the 83/89 isn't unusual.
Although branded for WB5 a President on a president route isn't unusual
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 20, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
4048-83/89 and a 14 branded trident on the 22/23
President on the 83/89 isn't unusual.
Although branded for WB5 a President on a president route isn't unusual
Technically a president on a president isn't rare. But you never get branded presidents on the 83/89, well, apart from today :)
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 20, 2013, 10:16:48 PM
Technically a president on a president isn't rare. But you never get branded presidents on the 83/89, well, apart from today :)
Well half branded, unless all of the 5 branding has been re-applied
Oh ok :) but the post best fits into the route branded buses off route thread :)
51-branded Gem on the 77 this evening as well. WA having a fine old time by the look of it.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 20, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
51-branded Gem on the 77 this evening as well. WA having a fine old time by the look of it.
You mean X51 branded ;)
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 10:19:21 PM
Oh ok :) but the post best fits into the route branded buses off route thread :)
No, because it's rare to get a 5 branded bus on another route.
4763 - WA77
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:23:09 PM
It was me who made the connection between the 59 and 24. The routes themselves are also similar in a way.
What was that in reply to?
A post from LS on the previous page but my phone won't let me quote as you know
Thanks Nathan, (nice name change BTW) - I recall a lengthy discussion reference it.
WB4509 on 42/43 today
at wheatsheif
4441 on 957 to Solihull at 10:05
4154 on 957 to Birmingham at 1015
2 tridents still on timetable still as I rode 4154 on 1322 from solihull
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 21, 2013, 03:16:17 PM
at wheatsheif
4441 on 957 to Solihull at 10:05
4154 on 957 to Birmingham at 1015
2 tridents still on timetable still as I rode 4154 on 1322 from solihull
I've just got off 4441 on its 14:57 journey from Birmingham running 5 minutes late also 2124 is on the 59 and 4628 is on the 900 :)
4576 is out on WN1
Merc 1682 on the 5 today quite rare for Codsall!
WB Gemini 4530 on routes 42/43
Quote from: DOC37V on December 21, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
Merc 1682 on the 5 today quite rare for Codsall!
Completley forgot to post that. Saw this afternoon in Wolverhampton Bus Station
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 21, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
WB Gemini 4530 on routes 42/43
Two Geminis on there then as 4509 was too.
PB4698 on 16, good seeing a Colgate bus on there again.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/11486978714/
B7RLE - WN1 (late night) - spotted 2220 opposite the Grand theatre, WN
2008 on WN 59 (Its rare to get B7RLE's on the 59 on a Sunday)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 22, 2013, 12:03:39 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/11486978714/
Nice photo Matt :) Surely Tridents on evening 244's will be appearing more often with tridents being allocated to the 276 :)
Very strange seeing the two tridents parked next to each other displaying 244 so great pic :) Did you ride any of the two tridents?
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2013, 10:21:15 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 22, 2013, 12:03:39 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/11486978714/
Nice photo Matt :) Surely Tridents on evening 244's will be appearing more often with tridents being allocated to the 276 :)
Very strange seeing the two tridents parked next to each other displaying 244 so great pic :) Did you ride any of the two tridents?
Yes both of them ;D
Forgot to post this but as said in the branded buses off route thread:
I saw Route 6 branded 2077 on the 59 last night. Two B7RLE's on a Sunday! What's going on Park Lane?
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Forgot to post this but as said in the branded buses off route thread:
I saw Route 6 branded 2077 on the 59 last night. Two B7RLE's on a Sunday! What's going on Park Lane?
"What's going on"? Why waste time trying to find a double decker out the garage if a B7 is ready for service?
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Forgot to post this but as said in the branded buses off route thread:
I saw Route 6 branded 2077 on the 59 last night. Two B7RLE's on a Sunday! What's going on Park Lane?
"What's going on"? Why waste time trying to find a double decker out the garage if a B7 is ready for service?
Surely there wasn't just a branded bus parked at front of garage as there are always at least unbranded examples parked up. Tbh yes the B7 coped last night but 2008 on during the day was rediculous. I saw 2008 3 times yesterday and each tine it was packed or very busy
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
Forgot to post this but as said in the branded buses off route thread:
I saw Route 6 branded 2077 on the 59 last night. Two B7RLE's on a Sunday! What's going on Park Lane?
"What's going on"? Why waste time trying to find a double decker out the garage if a B7 is ready for service?
Surely there wasn't just a branded bus parked at front of garage as there are always at least unbranded examples parked up. Tbh yes the B7 coped last night but 2008 on during the day was rediculous. I saw 2008 3 times yesterday and each tine it was packed or very busy
Yeah I agree 2008 being on during the day was a mistake, but at night I can't see any issue with the whole route being B7 operated let alone one or two buses
Because the double deckers are allocated to the boards from the morning and Park Lane obviously don't see the point of specifically taking them off and putting single deckers on.
Tbh I think WN should use the spare hybrids on the 126 on a Sunday (Branded and any spare unbranded hybrids)
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 09:09:27 AM
Because the double deckers are allocated to the boards from the morning and Park Lane obviously don't see the point of specifically taking them off and putting single deckers on.
Tbh I think WN should use the spare hybrids on the 126 on a Sunday (Branded and any spare unbranded hybrids)
Central seem to manage with the 22, 23, 24 and 957 though.
I wonder if 59 journeys could be put on the end of 2, 3, 4 etc running boards so that B7s coming off those routes in the evening come onto the 59, and Spectras/Tridents come off the 59 and go back to the garage.
Weekday 59's up till at least 9 are pretty busy
1640 - 53/289 ? Unusal, from posts on here I'm under the impression its converted to DD operation.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 23, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
1640 - 53/289 ? Unusal, from posts on here I'm under the impression its converted to DD operation.
I think it is around half decker and half O405N operation
1672 on WN4
4016 on WN 1 (Saw running as a 1E to the rock)
Both 4136/7 are on WA69
1640 on 53/289 is not unusual Nathan, just a case of one or two more deckers than before have ppeared of late but a DD conversion, noo.
I also saw 4016, it went out private to Tettenhall when I saw it on Lichfield Street around 1ish, then I saw it again at about 3pm and it was a 1E to city, the next 1 was a green machine also running as a 1E
4855 on 952
I saw a Spectra in Gornal Wood displaying either 27A or 27E this evening, think it was 27E.
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
I saw a Spectra in Gornal Wood displaying either 27A or 27E this evening, think it was 27E.
Not that unusual Matt, Spectra's appear a fair bit when trident isn't avaliable
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
I saw a Spectra in Gornal Wood displaying either 27A or 27E this evening, think it was 27E.
Not that unusual Matt, Spectra's appear a fair bit when trident isn't avaliable
Not on the 27 they don't, the 27 is B6's only.
oh it was on a 27,My apologies. So it was on the 27 section of route but displaying 27A? What time did you see this btw?
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
oh it was on a 27,My apologies. So it was on the 27 section of route but displaying 27A? What time did you see this btw?
No, I'm 99% sure it was displaying 27E, especially as there's one timetabled for that time. It left Gornal Wood towards Dudley about 18:15
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
oh it was on a 27,My apologies. So it was on the 27 section of route but displaying 27A? What time did you see this btw?
No, I'm 99% sure it was displaying 27E, especially as there's one timetabled for that time. It left Gornal Wood towards Dudley about 18:15
It left Gornal Wood towards Dudley? I'm sure the 27E terminates at Gornal Wood from W'ton then runs dead back to garage?
No I looked at the bus stop and it said that working terminates somewhere, can't remember where, but it goes further than GW bus station
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
No I looked at the bus stop and it said that working terminates somewhere, can't remember where, but it goes further than GW bus station
No it terminates at Jews Lane (Junction with the 1 route) then goes out of service back to garage via the 1 route
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
No I looked at the bus stop and it said that working terminates somewhere, can't remember where, but it goes further than GW bus station
No it terminates at Jews Lane (Junction with the 1 route) then goes out of service back to garage via the 1 route
Correct, as I said, it goes further than GW bus station.
Hello all,
Just letting you know I'm new on here and wanted to ask about the BC Volvo showing Happy Birthday on the blinds going along the Bristol rd everyday last week. Driver with a sense of humour perhaps?
Quote from: Blakey on December 23, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Hello all,
Just letting you know I'm new on here and wanted to ask about the BC Volvo showing Happy Birthday on the blinds going along the Bristol rd everyday last week. Driver with a sense of humour perhaps?
Hybrid B5 or B7RLE single Decker?
Matt, I never said that it terminated at GW bus station ;) Jews Lane is classed as Gornal Wood so that's what I meant :)
B7RLE - running dead from city early in the morning.
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
Matt, I never said that it terminated at GW bus station ;) Jews Lane is classed as Gornal Wood so that's what I meant :)
Jews lane is actually classed as upper gornal, gornal wood is just the village with the station.
The 27E usually has Upper Gornal on the front.
Quote from: Andrew on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
Matt, I never said that it terminated at GW bus station ;) Jews Lane is classed as Gornal Wood so that's what I meant :)
Jews lane is actually classed as upper gornal, gornal wood is just the village with the station
Tbh I don't really care ;) I got it wrong its not the end of the world ;)
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:33:06 PM
Quote from: Andrew on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
Matt, I never said that it terminated at GW bus station ;) Jews Lane is classed as Gornal Wood so that's what I meant :)
Jews lane is actually classed as upper gornal, gornal wood is just the village with the station
Tbh I don't really care ;) I got it wrong its not the end of the world ;)
Haha, wasn't having a go. You wouldn't have known as your not from the area.
Don't worry I didn't take offence;)
I'm also told there was a B7RLE on first one or two trips on WN26 this morning. The person who told me just said "we had a posh buzz this mornin"
Quote from: Ashley on December 23, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
I'm also told there was a B7RLE on first one or two trips on WN26 this morning. The person who told me just said "we had a posh buzz this mornin"
Oh... Dear... 🙈
WA Enviro 400 4737 and Gemini 4682 on routes 40/41 today.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 23, 2013, 10:14:33 PM
WA Enviro 400 4737 and Gemini 4682 on routes 40/41 today.
i saw 4682 on the 40 this morning but Gemini's on the 40 are common and E400's are fairly normal too
merry Christmas everyone
3 from me today
4632 957 wheatsheif 0900 to Solihull
4172 957 wheatsheif 0911 to Birmingham
4625 900E wheatsheif 0911 to airport
Are Tridents on the 957 unusual anymore. Am I right to say with two E400 of the road, wouldn't that mean Tridents may work the 900/57 ? I might be wrong.
main allocations are E400s on 900/957 propley a few might be on repairs or on ops to another route so they put 1 or 2 tridents
Thanks James (:
4938? On 94
4682 - 302
B7rle on the 51 I think, was at the 51 stop in WA for a while.
There's a B7 on the 297 today
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 24, 2013, 02:04:01 PM
4682 - 302
Also 4680 on the Walsall 7
4767 on Walsall 70A
And I'm sure there was an OmniLink on the Walsall 38, seen it leaving via Bridgeman Street, with a route number on the back (not 'Not In Service')
Just seen 4938 on the 94 an managed to get a picture shal upload when I'm home
4048-83/89, which has regained some front branding
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 24, 2013, 04:52:24 PM
4048-83/89, which has regained some front branding
Given that this is the fourth consecutive day 4048 has been on the 83/89. I wouldn't say this was rare at all, although I would imagine it will stop appearing on these days if the front branding has been reapplied
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 23, 2013, 10:14:33 PM
WA Enviro 400 4737 and Gemini 4682 on routes 40/41 today.
this was on the 997 must have came off
4938 - 94;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11535724434/ (not the best apologies)
EDIT; 547 - 34/38 today
547 and the other WA B6s are becoming more common on 34/38/39
4938 seems to be getiing about though
Saw another bus tonight displaying "happy birthday" on the blinds - this time it was 804 going down the Hagley Road. What's going on?
Walsall 24/12/2013
4769-10
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59615439@N03/11554226285/in/photostream/
4131-997
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59615439@N03/11554374663/
0673-6
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59615439@N03/11554367706/in/photostream/
The bottom one isn't really unusual then is it if it comes off a 336?
336, 335 then 6 Nathan. As services were running to saturday timetables yesterday and the B6 doesn't appear on a saturday its worth a mention as such
Quote from: Blakey on December 24, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Saw another bus tonight displaying "happy birthday" on the blinds - this time it was 804 going down the Hagley Road. What's going on?
Nice! - Get a photo next time. (Glad to see people still have a sense of humour!)
Running special from Halesowen dead to BC most likely.
Quote from: Ashley on December 25, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
336, 335 then 6 Nathan. As services were running to saturday timetables yesterday and the B6 doesn't appear on a saturday its worth a mention as such
Oh so it appeared on an all day 6 board?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 25, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Blakey on December 24, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Saw another bus tonight displaying "happy birthday" on the blinds - this time it was 804 going down the Hagley Road. What's going on?
Nice! - Get a photo next time. (Glad to see people still have a sense of humour!)
Running special from Halesowen dead to BC most likely.
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I will certainly try - has nobody else seen this out and about? Wonder what else is available on the blinds?
It may have been on an all day 6 board Nathan, seems likely but the photo description could suggest otherwise
Quote from: Ashley on December 25, 2013, 11:06:50 PM
It may have been on an all day 6 board Nathan, seems likely but the photo description could suggest otherwise
I was unsure as the photo description as you said suggests it came off a 336 board :)
Ill start today off, 4127 on 4M
Quote from: bususer12 on December 26, 2013, 08:43:49 AM
Ill start today off, 4127 on 4M
Could the 4M be possibly fully double deck today?
Quote from: bususer12 on December 26, 2013, 08:43:49 AM
Ill start today off, 4127 on 4M
Does the 4M interwork with the 4 on a Sunday Service?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 24, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
Just seen 4938 on the 94 an managed to get a picture shal upload when I'm home
I knew this would happen, it's only time before they use them on the 101 and 16 i tell ya ;)
Quote from: John on December 26, 2013, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: bususer12 on December 26, 2013, 08:43:49 AM
Ill start today off, 4127 on 4M
Does the 4M interwork with the 4 on a Sunday Service?
Looking at the timetable, it seems like the 4M is on its own board. Arrives at Bradford Place from Merry Hill at xx.22 & xx.52, departs at Bradford Place for Merry Hill at xx.25 & xx.55
Quote from: Kevin on December 26, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 24, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
Just seen 4938 on the 94 an managed to get a picture shal upload when I'm home
I knew this would happen, it's only time before they use them on the 101 and 16 i tell ya ;)
One has already appeared on the 16 ;) 4932 was on the 16 about a month ago caught me by surprise I was waiting for E200 14E at the time
4130 also out on the 4M
4128 is also on the 4M
And they do interwork with the 4
I belive the 4/4M are all double operated today
4084 - 43
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
I belive the 4/4M are all double operated today
Currently sat in West Brom bus station, so weird seeing tridents on the 4
Quote from: Kevin on December 26, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 12:18:19 PM
I belive the 4/4M are all double operated today
Currently sat in West Brom bus station, so weird seeing tridents on the 4
The 4/4M interwork Sundays between 11.00 1800 hours
To allow more running time on each route
4M at 2hr 45 Min
4 1 hr 45 min
Evening and Sunday on there own board
4 1hr30 Min
4M 2hr 30 min
4044 - 42 I'm guessing this route has been DD operated all day too alongside the 48
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
2007 was also on the 25, but i think B7RLE's are allocated on Sundays could be wrong
4291 & Gemini were also on the 48 ;)
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
4307 also on the 4M
4133 - 4;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11569122043/
4130 - 4M;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11569118313/
4330 - 4M;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11569239536/
4307 - 4M;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11569211446/
4084 - 43;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11569173656/
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
WN Garage were operating normal sunday allocations today and the 25/27 are B7RLE operated on Sundays so far from unusual
Answers your question too Nathan :)
WMSNT don't operate the 297 on Sundays. NX operate it usually with a B7RLE
1774 on the 34 is the main allocation on Sundays and with it being a Sunday Service today this is far from Unusual
I wonder why the 4/M was able to operate fully double decker today but it is usually banned at any other times? (Have they took a different day to/from garage today avoiding the very low bridge next to Bradford Place)
Plus B7RLE's are common on WN25 at any time. 4127/8/30/8/4307/29 have all been on the 4/4M today
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
Plus B7RLE's are common on WN25 at any time. 4127/8/30/8/4307/29 have all been on the 4/4M today
4133 replaced 4127 :)
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
I wonder why the 4/M was able to operate fully double decker today but it is usually banned at any other times? (Have they took a different day to/from garage today avoiding the very low bridge next to Bradford Place)
This intrigued me as well... Obviously it is possible so why not more often, because I have to say the 4 to me is one route that screams out for deckers
Quote from: Kevin on December 26, 2013, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
I wonder why the 4/M was able to operate fully double decker today but it is usually banned at any other times? (Have they took a different day to/from garage today avoiding the very low bridge next to Bradford Place)
This intrigued me as well... Obviously it is possible so why not more often, because I have to say the 4 to me is one route that screams out for deckers
it is possible, but after a decker got deroofed a few years ago after finishing service at Bradford place, Deckers were banned from these services.
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
WN Garage were operating normal sunday allocations today and the 25/27 are B7RLE operated on Sundays so far from unusual
Answers your question too Nathan :)
WMSNT don't operate the 297 on Sundays. NX operate it usually with a B7RLE
1774 on the 34 is the main allocation on Sundays and with it being a Sunday Service today this is far from Unusual
I wonder why the 4/M was able to operate fully double decker today but it is usually banned at any other times? (Have they took a different day to/from garage today avoiding the very low bridge next to Bradford Place)
according to the 297A timetable for Boxing Day it shouldn't have been running
it should be the 297 between Halesowen and Merry Hill?
Yes NX operate a 297E to Merry Hill (Sometimes displays 297A as it serves the 297A route to Merry Hill)
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
continuing the Boxing Day thing, I saw:
4272 on the 48
2087 on the 297A (which I have to question because on Sundays it is operated by WMSNT so why was NXWM operating it)
4130/ 4329 on the 4M
4806/ 4828 on the X96
2018 on the 25
1774 on the 34
WMSNT run on the 297E Monday to Saturday evenings
One from Christmas Eve i just remembered:
4537 on WN 3 (Very unusual for a Saturday Timetable)
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 08:02:13 PM
Yes NX operate a 297E to Merry Hill (Sometimes displays 297A as it serves the 297A route to Merry Hill)
lol so much confusion!
:P
Evening WB5 completely double operated, usually E200/Mercs
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Evening WB5 completely double operated, usually E200/Mercs
On a Sunday Timetable too?
With presidents on the 42/43 and other WB routes, does this mean the 83/89 were completely Gemini/ALX, I only saw 2 of the 4 buses on the 83/89 today, 4519 (the one that I caught) and 4529
Is 2096 on X96 to Dudley unusual? (Or 2091 to Wollaston farm)
Last time I use this service it was mercs
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 27, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Is 2096 on X96 to Dudley unusual?
Last time I use this service it was mercs
No, sadly the X96 is now fully B7 operated with one or two deckers each day. You hardly ever see a Merc these days.
Quote from: Matt on December 27, 2013, 08:46:15 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 27, 2013, 08:34:25 AM
Is 2096 on X96 to Dudley unusual?
Last time I use this service it was mercs
No, sadly the X96 is now fully B7 operated with one or two deckers each day. You hardly ever see a Merc these days.
Thanks for this information :-)
Miss the mercs a bit aha
Quote from: vinh1000 link=topic=2385.msg77776#msg77776
Miss the mercs a bit aha
Just take a ride on the 243/244 which is a solid 9 Mercs each day. You can get some fast driving on the 244 too with the timings being so tight.
WB 566 on 42/43
WB 591 on 49 (daytime)
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
Yesterday (26/12/13)
4637 - 48
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11585820716/
PN 2094 on 243/4
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
B7RLE's on a B7 route isn't unusual really but saying that it it is rare to get a route 6 branded bus off route (As i reported this morning in the route branded buses off route thread) then spotted it again on Chapel Ash Island this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
B7RLE's on a B7 route isn't unusual really but i will give you it as it is branded for the 6 (As i reported this morning in the route branded buses off route thread) then spotted it again on Chapel Ash Island this afternoon.
I'm sorry Nathan, but really, it is not your ultimate decision on what is usual, unusual or noteworthy for that matter. This thread is called Noteworthy, people can input the information that are deemed noteworthy.
Didn't say it was my desision ::)
No. You make it look like you accept that the discovery is viable. You control what is usual or unusual.
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
It seems WN are sticking to Mon-Fri allocations atm even on a Saturday timetable with Tridents on the 3 and also the 59 was mainly Spectra operated today even though not many Spectra's appear on the 59 on a Saturday.
Ashley and P419 EJW, I'm sorry if it it came across as if i was 'making the desision if it was unusual or not' i just worded it wrongly ok :)
4931 - 67(:
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 27, 2013, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
B7RLE's on a B7 route isn't unusual really but i will give you it as it is branded for the 6 (As i reported this morning in the route branded buses off route thread) then spotted it again on Chapel Ash Island this afternoon.
I'm sorry Nathan, but really, it is not your ultimate decision on what is usual, unusual or noteworthy for that matter. This thread is called Noteworthy, people can input the information that are deemed noteworthy.
I did say renaming the thread wouldn't help ;D. I'm just going to post whatever is unusual to me, feel free to disagree
4930 also on the 67, glad there finally moving around, so its just the 7/46/101/65 left if I'm not mistaken ?
477* - on the 67
Not sure on this one:
I'm sure the 72's allocation has moved from scanias to B7RLEs... So far today, the only 72's i've seen are Scanias, despite their allocation on the b7s any clue to where they are?
Quote from: clayderman on December 27, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
477* - on the 67
Not sure on this one:
I'm sure the 72's allocation has moved from scanias to B7RLEs... So far today, the only 72's i've seen are Scanias, despite their allocation on the b7s any clue to where they are?
The 71 and 72 has always been allocated B7RLE.
But with 5 extra OmniLinks transferred in from Perry Barr, and 5 B7RLEs transferred out to Pensnett, there is now more OmniLinks on these routes. There may also be a few B7RLE on the 37 as well
4759 (50 branded) - 35
4731 - 3
4921 - CG shuttle
Quote from: clayderman on December 27, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
477* - on the 67
Not sure on this one:
I'm sure the 72's allocation has moved from scanias to B7RLEs... So far today, the only 72's i've seen are Scanias, despite their allocation on the b7s any clue to where they are?
The allocation of the 72 is B7RLEs & Omnilinks, mainly B7RLE though
4292-902/4/5
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 27, 2013, 06:53:24 PM
4292-902/4/5
I recall seeing a B7TL travelling up Lower Bull Street, I thought it was the 907, but it didn't stop on Lower Bull Street
Nathan you don't have to be sorry it was sort of my own fault with regard to my post about WN3
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:26:34 PM
2076, 4563 and 4570 - WN3
B7RLE's on a B7 route isn't unusual really but saying that it it is rare to get a route 6 branded bus off route (As i reported this morning in the route branded buses off route thread) then spotted it again on Chapel Ash Island this afternoon.
Really. ::)
WN 4562 on 82 - at least 4 types on 82 today.
Yes really! ::)
Anyway Just a quick question Matt as its your area, Is the 243/4 usually allocated B7RLE's,Mercs or does it still vary from werk to week as it did a few weeks back for the past few weeks?
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Yes really! ::)
Anyway Just a quick question Matt as its your area, Is the 243/4 usually allocated B7RLE's,Mercs or does it vary as it did a few weeks back for the past few weeks?
Varies. One Sunday it might be all B7s and the next Sunday it might be Mercs. Never a mixture though.
Quote from: Matt on December 27, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Yes really! ::)
Anyway Just a quick question Matt as its your area, Is the 243/4 usually allocated B7RLE's,Mercs or does it vary as it did a few weeks back for the past few weeks?
Varies. One Sunday it might be all B7s and the next Sunday it might be Mercs. Never a mixture though.
Yes i have noticed that. It was fully Merc on Boxing Day wasn't it?
Correct Nathan, 3 Mercs on Boxing Day.
Quote from: Matt on December 27, 2013, 07:59:34 PM
Correct Nathan, 3 Mercs on Boxing Day.
I only saw 1543 but iirc 1629 and 1705 were also on there?
Not as unusual as such but only 1 trident on WN59 today which is odd in itself at any point.
Sorry 4262 was on the 902/4/5
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 27, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: clayderman on December 27, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
477* - on the 67
Not sure on this one:
I'm sure the 72's allocation has moved from scanias to B7RLEs... So far today, the only 72's i've seen are Scanias, despite their allocation on the b7s any clue to where they are?
The allocation of the 72 is B7RLEs & Omnilinks, mainly B7RLE though
I know. ;) but I did think that there's more Omnilinks than B7s today.
WA 4307 - 69 - 0955 ex Wolverhampton
WN B7RLE - either 82 or 529 - seen on Willenhall Road around 1000
WN 4008 - 28 - 1011 ex Willenhall
Quote from: Ashley on December 28, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
WA 4307 - 69 - 0955 ex Wolverhampton
WN B7RLE - either 82 or 529 - seen on Willenhall Road around 1000
WN 4008 - 28 - 1011 ex Willenhall
We must have been in the station together, when i saw 4307 it had 0 passengers and a very bored looking driver.
I got on 4137 on the 40 Andrew, only passenger
4019 also on WN28 was the 1041 ex Willenhall
Quote from: Ashley on December 28, 2013, 12:14:07 PM
I got on 4137 on the 40 Andrew, only passenger
4019 also on WN28 was the 1041 ex Willenhall
Spectra's on the 28 and Tridents on the 69 are common on Saturdays incase you weren't aware :)
4698 - 7
Are the BC Volvo b7 single deckers common on Harborne services in the evening as I was driving through the area yesterday and saw 4 (2 on the 24 and 1 each on the 22 and 23)? Didn't actually see an decker on that corridor which seemed strange. One was 2134.
Quote from: j789 on December 28, 2013, 02:09:46 PM
Are the BC Volvo b7 single deckers common on Harborne services in the evening as I was driving through the area yesterday and saw 4 (2 on the 24 and 1 each on the 22 and 23)? Didn't actually see an decker on that corridor which seemed strange. One was 2134.
Yeah, the 22/23, the 24 and also the 957 are usually fully B7 in the evening
Makes sense I suppose as probably less antisocial behaviour using singles. They must cover some miles though if out 18 hours a day.
2 tridents on 957
4611 at wheatsheif 0912 to Birmingham
4.... at wheatsheif 1355 to Solihull didn't get whole reg
Omnicity on the 101
534 on WB 42/3
1903 on WA34/38
4682 on WA6
3612 - 49
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 07:33:11 PM
3612 - 49
Darts are on the 47/47A pretty much daily, and the 49 interworks with the 47/47A in the evening.
About 7:30 nathan
4698 still out on the 7
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
About 7:30 nathan
Probably came off the 47/A which interworks with evening 49's Nathan :)
Quote from: Nathan on December 28, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
About 7:30 nathan
Probably came off the 47/A which interworks with evening 49's Nathan :)
Do you not read anything I post?
Didn't catch that post so apologies to you matt
Quote from: Nathan on December 28, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
About 7:30 nathan
Probably came off the 47/A which interworks with evening 49's Nathan :)
Does anyone actually know when the interworking between the 47/A & 49 begins in the evening?
4930 952
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 29, 2013, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 29, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 29, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 29, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
4930 952
I know but the new ones though?
Doubles appear every Sunday on the 952
It can be any double, I've seen a new one on the 952 before.
This is the third sunday running, so certainly not rare/noteworthy any more, looks like it is the standard allocation
A 'Toothpaste' Enviro400 used to be the usual allocation for the 952 on a Sunday, so its natural that one of the new ones that replaced them will be on there
PB 4697 on 16. About 16:05 in Hamstead.
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I have not seen anything other than an E200 on the 289E in a long time
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I think that is usual for a Sunday. West Bromwich run the 289E with one Enviro200 (Rather than Pensnett)
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I think that is usual for a Sunday. West Bromwich run the 289E with one Enviro200 (Rather than Pensnett)
Yeah, it is almost always an E200.
Quote from: Matt on December 29, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I think that is usual for a Sunday. West Bromwich run the 289E with one Enviro200 (Rather than Pensnett)
Yeah, it is almost always an E200.
Yes should be an E200 every sunday
Quote from: Nathan on December 29, 2013, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 29, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I think that is usual for a Sunday. West Bromwich run the 289E with one Enviro200 (Rather than Pensnett)
Yeah, it is almost always an E200.
Yes should be an E200 every sunday
I don't think we need 3 people to give the same answer!
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
E200 just left on the 289E from WB
I think that is usual for a Sunday. West Bromwich run the 289E with one Enviro200 (Rather than Pensnett)
Ran by West Brom on Sundays due to NX 53 not running so makes it easier for driver changeovers
Quote from: Nathan on December 29, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
No need to be rude matt! >:( Plus you said it was an E200 nearly every Sunday so I corrected you because it happens every sunday
Oh, so you see the 289E
every Sunday? Do you dispatch it?
Incorrect again Nathan, you cannot say it is every Sunday. I see it most Sundays and it is usually an E200, but it has been a Merc once or twice.
You know what? I'm sick of this crap.
Nathan, don't rise to it.
Matt, stop trying to ignite an argument.
Any more arguments involving you two I will invoke a 7 day ban on both.
Go on ban them
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a feud.
4049 - 5, unusual for an evening as its usually an E200/Merc
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a feud.
4049 - 5, unusual for an evening as its usually an E200/Merc
Its not your fault Nathan
Where do the evening 5 single deckers come from, garage or another route do you know? And what time does the 5 change from double to single deckers?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a feud.
4049 - 5, unusual for an evening as its usually an E200/Merc
Don't worry you aren't to blame for that :)
its usually single decker operated by 19:30/20:00 might have my timings a little wrong but wouldn't be far off :p (:
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a feud.
4049 - 5, unusual for an evening as its usually an E200/Merc
Its not your fault Nathan
Where do the evening 5 single deckers come from, garage or another route do you know? And what time does the 5 change from double to single deckers?
Monday to Saturday they come off the 40. Sundays are normally deckers that run all day.
they normally come off the 40 about 7pm as well.
Quote from: John on December 29, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:14:31 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to cause a feud.
4049 - 5, unusual for an evening as its usually an E200/Merc
Its not your fault Nathan
Where do the evening 5 single deckers come from, garage or another route do you know? And what time does the 5 change from double to single deckers?
Spare Enviros off the 40, isn't it?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
its usually single decker operated by 19:30/20:00 might have my timings a little wrong but wouldn't be far off :p (:
Does it apply on Saturdays and Sundays too? I would imagine it would be the same allocation in the evening on a Sunday?
I thought the WB 5 was single decker operated in the evenings, but not usually out on a sunday night that's probably why (:
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 29, 2013, 09:28:50 PM
I thought the WB 5 was single decker operated in the evenings, but not usually out on a sunday night that's probably why (:
WBdrivers post just above should explain it :)
2136 seen on the BC56 this evening. Been quite a while since I've see a B7RLE on that route.
Pensnett are having a funny day today
1629, 1649, 1705, 1707 all on the X96
1657 and 2154 on the 246
2095 on the 53/289
824 on the 243/244
2086 and another B7 on the 276
Have we now decided that mercs on the X96 are unusual and b7rle are the main allocation?
Quote from: NXDom on December 30, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
Have we now decided that mercs on the X96 are unusual and b7rle are the main allocation?
Yeah, I haven't seen a Merc on there in ages, then 4 come along at once! Good to see the Mercs back on there.
I suppose the B7's on the 276 are nothing too extraordinary though I suppose it is usually Tridents and a Merc or two.
Quote from: s94 on December 30, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
I suppose the B7's on the 276 are nothing too extraordinary though I suppose it is usually Tridents and a Merc or two.
Yeah, I was a little tentative with that one hence why I put it at the bottom, I suppose nothing is rare on there except 825-830. Two B7s on a Saturday doesn't happen that often though
4125, 4127 - 997
820 - 49 daytime ? Or is this common like the evening ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 30, 2013, 03:32:29 PM
820 - 49 daytime ? Or is this common like the evening ?
It isn't rare but yes it t is unusual during the day. Usually Mercs in the daytime
Saw a B7rle on the 257, but couldn't get close enough for the fleet number.
4290 - 45
WB freshly repainted Trident 4294 on route 45
WA Enviro 400 4869 on 70A
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 30, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
4290 - 45
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
WB freshly repainted Trident 4294 on route 45
That's 2 on the 45 today, unusual to get one, let alone 2 in one day ;D
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to Facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
Oh, that is an awesome noteworthy post! I am looking forward to see the picture soon! Wish I was there to witness it! 😜 Well, to be honest, I didn't expect a B10 serving X56. Wow.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
WB freshly repainted Trident 4294 on route 45
WA Enviro 400 4869 on 70A
I know it was probably a simple mistake, but 4294 is a B7TL, not a Trident. :)
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
...surely the most unusual working of the month
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 30, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
...surely the most unusual working of the month
if not the year!
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
.... and the picture -->clicky (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100604135935775&set=a.10100203987326795.458213.223404553&type=3&theater)<--
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
.... and the picture -->clicky (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100604135935775&set=a.10100203987326795.458213.223404553&type=3&theater)<--
"This content is currently unavailable"
Try right-clicking the photo and selecting "Copy image location" or equivalent, then paste here
Quote from: Matt on December 30, 2013, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
.... and the picture -->clicky (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100604135935775&set=a.10100203987326795.458213.223404553&type=3&theater)<--
"This content is currently unavailable"
Try right-clicking the photo and selecting "Copy image location" or equivalent, then paste here
Oh I am sorry, tested it for myself and it worked, try this (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100604135935775&set=a.10100203987326795.458213.223404553&type=1) instead
Alas, it's not showing. :C
Kevin. Its forcing me to log in - resize it and upload direct to the forum.
I have decided you're all being awkward I hate technology....
Here, resized and all that mumbo jumbo
That's a great pic, thanks for sharing, Kevin! 🙌👌😄
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 30, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
That's a great pic, thanks for sharing, Kevin! 🙌👌😄
Consider it a christmas present
Obliged, Kevin! What a picture..
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 07:29:13 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 30, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
That's a great pic, thanks for sharing, Kevin! 🙌👌😄
Consider it a christmas present
Great pic, & what a working to end the year.
Would 1454 have been on the 93*s as well today?
It could have been an X56 missing so maybe 'any drivers know the X56?' - its what sometimes happen on BC routes especially when a 900 goes down or an X64.
Quote from: John on December 30, 2013, 07:38:27 PM
Would 1454 have been on the 93*s as well today?
I'm sure it was said it was on a 29 board
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
According to NX bus website, one journey operates each way today & tomorrow, presumably this was the 17:40 from City
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
Very rare indeed! I imagine as its a Saturday service it is running board W29/05 which normally finishes at Walsall at 1654. This could then run dead to Birmingham to work the 1740 X56 over the Festive period!
Quote from: notepanel on December 30, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
Very rare indeed! I imagine as its a Saturday service it is running board W29/05 which normally finishes at Walsall at 1654. This could then run dead to Birmingham to work the 1740 X56 over the Festive period!
Presumably the emission rules are suspended over the holiday?
But th emmision rule only applies to services with a frequency higher than every 30 minutes
Quote from: Nathan on December 30, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
But th emmision rule only applies to services with a frequency higher than every 30 minutes
True Nathan, these rules confuse me.
I had heard that it was only Monday to Friday 7am till 7pm, so Saturdays & Sundays surely any bus can operate any service.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 30, 2013, 08:13:08 PM
Quote from: notepanel on December 30, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen.... I present to you a "noteworthy" working that I'm so happy I've seen: 1454 on the X56
Caught it home from work today (didn't even think the X56 ran today but there you go). Was ace to hear a B10 having a stretch on the A34, brought back the days of them appearing on the 951/2 etc all that time ago.
Even had to display "Burntwood" because presumably the B10's don't have Boney Hay on the roller blinds. Even stranger it was on a W29 board
EDIT: Got a picture at Tower Hill when I got off, but as I do not have Flickr and the pic is too large to attach on this post I'll have to resort to facebook if anyone wants to see it with their own eyes.
Very rare indeed! I imagine as its a Saturday service it is running board W29/05 which normally finishes at Walsall at 1654. This could then run dead to Birmingham to work the 1740 X56 over the Festive period!
Presumably the emission rules are suspended over the holiday?
The X56 runs once a day in that direction. So I wouldn't think emission rules would be an issue
Quote from: notepanel on December 30, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Very rare indeed! I imagine as its a Saturday service it is running board W29/05 which normally finishes at Walsall at 1654. This could then run dead to Birmingham to work the 1740 X56 over the Festive period!
It was W29/05 indeed, usual monday-friday ones work 934 etc during the day but this week it's apparently not, wonder now which board the AM peak journey is now... going into work early tomorrow so won't get a chance to see for meself
Quote from: Kevin on December 30, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: notepanel on December 30, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Very rare indeed! I imagine as its a Saturday service it is running board W29/05 which normally finishes at Walsall at 1654. This could then run dead to Birmingham to work the 1740 X56 over the Festive period!
It was W29/05 indeed, usual monday-friday ones work 934 etc during the day but this week it's apparently not, wonder now which board the AM peak journey is now... going into work early tomorrow so won't get a chance to see for meself
I think this W29-05 board also does 34 in morning before going on a 29 for
0915. So might be a B10 on the same board tommorow if I c it ill post it.
Gemini, I think it was 4513, on 48 in Bearwood at 10:45, not sure how unusual it is but first one I've seen.
Quote from: filbus1 on December 31, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
Gemini, I think it was 4513, on 48 in Bearwood at 10:45, not sure how unusual it is but first one I've seen.
Happens every now and again. Certainly noteworthy
Quote from: John on December 30, 2013, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 30, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
4290 - 45
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 30, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
WB freshly repainted Trident 4294 on route 45
That's 2 on the 45 today, unusual to get one, let alone 2 in one day ;D
A Trident on the 45 would be extremely rare
566 on the WB 46, hamstead village at 08:20.
WN's beasts 4565 and 4019 on the 82 today.
Quote from: Matt on December 31, 2013, 01:54:52 PM
WN's beasts 4565 and 4019 on the 82 today.
To be fair not really unusual to have them on the 82 on a saturday service nor any other day really as the 82 now has a trident board and spectras are on there next to everyday ;)
Quote from: NXDom on December 31, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 31, 2013, 01:54:52 PM
WN's beasts 4565 and 4019 on the 82 today.
To be fair not really unusual to have them on the 82 on a saturday service nor any other day really as the 82 now has a trident board and spectras are on there next to everyday ;)
Oh ok, I don't see the 82 too much, cheers Dom ;)
1419 on WA 302
4769 on WA 301
4774 on WA 302
4871 on WA 7
Quote from: Matt on December 31, 2013, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 31, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 31, 2013, 01:54:52 PM
WN's beasts 4565 and 4019 on the 82 today.
To be fair not really unusual to have them on the 82 on a saturday service nor any other day really as the 82 now has a trident board and spectras are on there next to everyday ;)
Oh ok, I don't see the 82 too much, cheers Dom ;)
Welcome mate :D
2137 on 957 to Birmingham seen at small heath 1355
21.. on 957 to Solihull seen at swan centre 1340
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 31, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
2137 on 957 to Birmingham seen at small heath 1355
21.. on 957 to Solihull seen at swan centre 1340
The Other B7 on the 957 was 2148 :)
thanks rob4900 :)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on December 31, 2013, 07:02:32 PM
thanks rob4900 :)
No Worries my friend ;) 2137 and 2148 were still out on the 957 after 3pm
WN 2019 - 27A - 30.12
Quote from: Ashley
Do the forum police approve this sighting?
...and I presume you don't mean either I or Tony...
No LS dont worry :)
Quote from: Ashley on December 31, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
WN 2019 - 27/27A - 30.12
Do the forum police approve this sighting?
Well there is is no need for it to be "approved" as it is an unusual working :) BTW did you see it on the 27 or 27A as they don't interwork?
1882 0n the 39 in Wolverhampton today. I am not in that area very often, but can't remember seeing a Scania on that route before.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on December 31, 2013, 07:30:52 PM
1882 0n the 39 in Wolverhampton today. I am not in that area very often, but can't remember seeing a Scania on that route before.
Nice spot Eric :) They have appeared but not much. Usually B10L's and B6's with appearances from B7RLE' sometimes
It was the 27A Nathan
Quote from: Ashley on December 31, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
It was the 27A Nathan
Even better if you saw it on the 27A as it is fully trident operated most of the time so nice spot :)
566 on the 48 (had no destination on it)