Alexander Dennis Enviro200 Discussion

[andy]

Am I the only one who dislikes it. It looks like the terrible green branding! See the ALX400 behind it on the photograph.

I agree. You would think they would have learned from that experience but it appears there is a load of snot green vinyl that they can't throw away. How to wreck a new bus before it even gets on the road!

[nx4737]

Am I the only one who dislikes it. It looks like the terrible green branding! See the ALX400 behind it on the photograph.

I agree. You would think they would have learned from that experience but it appears there is a load of snot green vinyl that they can't throw away. How to wreck a new bus before it even gets on the road!

It looks nothing like the previous green, this one is bordering on blue and actually, looks far smarter than the previous green.

[andy]

Am I the only one who dislikes it. It looks like the terrible green branding! See the ALX400 behind it on the photograph.

I agree. You would think they would have learned from that experience but it appears there is a load of snot green vinyl that they can't throw away. How to wreck a new bus before it even gets on the road!

It looks nothing like the previous green, this one is bordering on blue and actually, looks far smarter than the previous green.

It might not be exactly the same but whichever way you look at it it's an awful colour that does not go with red.

[don]

It might not be exactly the same but whichever way you look at it it's an awful colour that does not go with red.

The branding is surely meant to stand out and be noticed (by passengers). Some bus branding is so subtle it looks like part of the livery and arguably is barely noticeable (eg some of Arriva's)

[MW]

It might not be exactly the same but whichever way you look at it it's an awful colour that does not go with red.

The branding is surely meant to stand out and be noticed (by passengers). Some bus branding is so subtle it looks like part of the livery and arguably is barely noticeable (eg some of Arriva's)

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4658.html

Does this branding not stand out? Of course it does, but it's still terrible. Same with the new one. A different colour would be fine, but not that vile green again. It's just lighter than the previous one.

[Ash]

So whats people's preferences comparing the new 99 branding to the one used on the 4/4H/4M and the 37. Which do people favour more in terms of style and presentation but also in terms of informing the passenger.

[Sh4318]

So whats people's preferences comparing the new 99 branding to the one used on the 4/4H/4M and the 37. Which do people favour more in terms of style and presentation but also in terms of informing the passenger.

I think the 99 branding does what it's mean to do, raise awareness of the route and the new buses on it. I really like the 4 branding with the shopping bags for the 4M section, and the 37 one is good as well, they both show the high frequency that the routes have

[andy]

So whats people's preferences comparing the new 99 branding to the one used on the 4/4H/4M and the 37. Which do people favour more in terms of style and presentation but also in terms of informing the passenger.

I think the 4 and 37 branding looks far smarter than any of these garish colour vinyls, which are generally poorly applied anyway. If you have a red based livery you are limiting the amount of colours you can match it with. Why hasn't somebody at NX realised this yet?

[winston]

They'll have to get their fingers out at Central then to have them in service by 6th Jan. Keep off the mince pies and sherry, lads!

I reckon they'll do it, but I think they have left it until the last minute...

I dont know-theyve already branded one!

I don't understand why NXWM didn't just get ADL to apply the branding at Scarborough prior to delivery; it was obviously planned due to the positioning on the side fleetnames or at least get ADL to leave applying front fleetnames/fleetnames which only had to be removed at BC & could potentially damage the new paintwork

[PM]

The thing is with this branding, it doesnt obscure large parts of the windows unlike the 37, 4 one which does so probably for passengers it is better.

[Discodave]

Just seen the pic of the new midi bus and looks a lot better than the hill top crap Arriva have the longer length seems to fit in with the NXWM fleet they will look nice on the black country routes at PN and hopefully WB as long as the Russells hall Chavs don't wreck them

[andy]

The thing is with this branding, it doesnt obscure large parts of the windows unlike the 37, 4 one which does so probably for passengers it is better.

I don't really think anyone notices or cares much about the window being obscured to be honest. Most of the area covered by the vinyls is adjacent to the inward facing seats anyway and it doesn't particularly affect the amount of light.

[PM]

The thing is with this branding, it doesnt obscure large parts of the windows unlike the 37, 4 one which does so probably for passengers it is better.

I don't really think anyone notices or cares much about the window being obscured to be honest. Most of the area covered by the vinyls is adjacent to the inward facing seats anyway and it doesn't particularly affect the amount of light.

Really? I guess most NXWM routes arent scenic but particularly with double deck buses people want to be able to look out the windows and the scanias are more dark than the eclipses at any rate anyway

[nx4737]

Just seen the pic of the new midi bus and looks a lot better than the hill top crap Arriva have the longer length seems to fit in with the NXWM fleet they will look nice on the black country routes at PN and hopefully WB as long as the Russells hall Chavs don't wreck them

Apart form the length, there is very little difference!

The only reason you've described them as 'crap' is because they're operated by Arriva.

Have you ever actually used a Hill Top E200, or are you jumping to conclusions?

Oh how I missed you're posts.

[Sh4318]

Just seen the pic of the new midi bus and looks a lot better than the hill top crap Arriva have the longer length seems to fit in with the NXWM fleet they will look nice on the black country routes at PN and hopefully WB as long as the Russells hall Chavs don't wreck them

Aren't the Arriva E200s '12 reg?