NXWM service changes 30th August

[Ossie]

So they increase the frequency of Sutton to Birmingham direct services from every 7/8 minutes to every 6/7 but its because they are still not getting it right?

Haven't you thought these changes might be because they are getting it right and more people are wanting to use the services

With respect, Tony, at the expense of inconveniencing travellers down the East of Sutton corridor through Walmley?  I know I've got a vested interest   :) but a small increase in frequency down the Sutton - Erdington road, which parallels the 10 minute service on the Cross City line, whilst we Walmley residents are looking at a 50% cut in direct buses to the City Centre?

And it used to be a clockface 15m departure time from the Square Peg on the 115/914 until the timetables were rearranged to suit the interworking.  Sorry, but I can't help feeling we're facing at a bit of a raw deal out here .......

[Tony]

With respect, Tony, at the expense of inconveniencing travellers down the East of Sutton corridor through Walmley?  I know I've got a vested interest   :) but a small increase in frequency down the Sutton - Erdington road, which parallels the 10 minute service on the Cross City line, whilst we Walmley residents are looking at a 50% cut in direct buses to the City Centre?

And it used to be a clockface 15m departure time from the Square Peg on the 115/914 until the timetables were rearranged to suit the interworking.  Sorry, but I can't help feeling we're facing at a bit of a raw deal out here .......

Depends how you look at it.

Walmley is getting a 50% increase in direct buses to Birmingham, figures show very few people using the 115 from Walmley to Birmingham, and an increase in the number of Buses to Sutton Coldfield

[Stu]

Ho hum.
Finally the death of the link from Lichfield Rd area to Erdington. What's the betting they aren't improving the 66 to compensate?

All I can see on the NWM website is that it looks like the 66 will no longer serve Gravelly Industrial Park - the route map is shown, but no timetable yet.

[monkeyjoe]

I like a bit of fire in these responses it's all good, just like being at work. Bring on the debate. You can look at it Tony's way and Stu's view, especially the part about investment and frequency increases were competition exists.

Stand corrected about the 52 only going by the timetable on the Centro site. However I am sure NXWM will a do super marketing job, I am sure. Happy days.

In terms of the corridor frequency of the main Sutton corridor that is why I made the point about the return on the 904e's which could suggest an increase over the core part of the corridor. All sounds very interesting anyway, eagerly await the final details.

[Steve3229vp]

Is it the case that the 902, 904 and 905 will be every 20 minutes each (providing a bus every 6/7 mins to Sutton) and also the 914 will be increased to every 20 minutes ?

[B10L1473]

Daytime 51 reduced to 10 Mins

Daytime X51 increased to 10 Mins

Maybe with 52 introduced every 10 mins a bus every 3-4 mins Perry Barr-City with 33

If the 33 is reduced to 10 Mins as well.

[monkeyjoe]

Is it the case that the 902, 904 and 905 will be every 20 minutes each (providing a bus every 6/7 mins to Sutton) and also the 914 will be increased to every 20 minutes ?

Does 3 20 minutes services make a 6/7 min frequency. Looks like it might be one of those strange timetables like the 74es/74/75. That's what i meant with 904e's. However speculation as i am procrastinating from what i need to do.

[Tony]

Does 3 20 minutes services make a 6/7 min frequency.

Yes, three buses in a twenty minute spell will be 7, 7, 6, then the next 7, 7, 6 doesn't need any strange maths

[monkeyjoe]

I see I was assuming that the Mere Green routes would get a consistent 10 minute frequency. Cheers.

[Sh4318]

I see I was assuming that the Mere Green routes would get a consistent 10 minute frequency. Cheers.

They probably will between Sutton and Mere Green

[monkeyjoe]

Can see that being 13 & 7 minutes, unless they put in 3 min layover on some journeys in Sutton. Right i need to get out more

[Steve3229vp]

NXWM:

1 terminating at Gospel Lane, no longer going to Haslucks Green Road.
NEW 6A Birmingham to Solihull via Monkpath, possibly replacing 5A
NEW 15A/C Sutton and Erdington circle replacing 66A and 115
37 City centre stop moved to B16 (High Street, present 45/7 stop)
45/47 City centre stop moved to MS5 (Carrs Lane, present 37 stop)
NEW 50A B'ham to Wythall - peaks Mon to Fri.
NEW 52 City to Perry Beeches via Hassop Road (replacing 952)
NEW 52A City to Booths Farm Road via Turnbury Road (replacing 952)
61/63 City centre stop moved to MS5 (Carrs Lane, present 37 stop)
66 every 15 mins to Nechells and every 30 mins to Kingstanding
902/905/914 increased to every 20 mins (905 every 30 mins Sundays)
904 extended to Minworth - every 20 minutes
X51 increased to every 10 mins


ARRIVA:

1 Walsall to Cannock - reduced to every 30 minutes
33 renumbered 3 - reduced to every 30 minutes

[monkeyjoe]

Noticed a later 0110 departure on the 904

[John]

Noticed a later 0110 departure on the 904

With the first morning journey starting in Sutton at 4.36am (rather than 5am from Falcon Lodge at present)

The word in garage is that it won't be long before it becomes a 24hr service. (Now only been 3 hours between the last bus and the first the next morning)

[Solo1]

Why are they moving the 37   45/7 & 61/3  services about