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If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

Started by Alex, November 15, 2014, 06:30:12 PM

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Bob

Quote from: ellspurs on September 18, 2020, 04:18:43 PM
The Birmingham - Corby X64 by Stagecoach United Counties? Used to like riding that to Northampton and back.

See above

Pat

Quote from: BH2004 on September 18, 2020, 02:56:43 PM
I would like to see diamond running the Wolverhampton 15 on evenings
Why?  What's wrong with the service that NX provides?

Bus Man K2

Quote from: Pat on September 18, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Why?  What's wrong with the service that NX provides?

Quote from: BH2004 on September 18, 2020, 02:56:43 PM
I would like to see diamond running the Wolverhampton 15 on evenings

Plus didn't Diamond used fo operate the eve jrnys on this service anyway? I think thay did as a tender and they couldn't make it work for profit.

Pat

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on September 18, 2020, 05:03:53 PM

Plus didn't Diamond used fo operate the eve jrnys on this service anyway? I think thay did as a tender and they couldn't make it work for profit.
Yes, they did lose the tender, but nothing to do with profits.


Roy

Quote from: BH2004 on September 18, 2020, 02:56:43 PM
I would like to see diamond running the Wolverhampton 15 on evenings
You'd be in a minority of one.  The last time they ran it, it was unreliable.  Also, the 15 and 16 (or 255 and 256 in those days) were then run by two different companies on evenings which meant that tickets were not interchangeable on the common sections of route which was very unpopular with passengers.

The Fox 4846

I've had a thought regarding the Harborne corridor. Why don't they bring back the 29 as in 23/24 to Harborne then 76 to Northfield so that there are the 23/24/29 to Harborne at a set frequency. Every other 29 could be operated as a short to either Barnes Hill, Harborne or Wesley Castle to reduce potential pvr. Either the frequency would be 12 mins each, each 10 minutes but 29 alt. shorts or another frequency but keeping the simplicity and frequency as turn up & go. Such that instead of every 4/5 mins to Harborne, it would be every 3-4 mins or 4 mins. I would also suggested to amend the 29 to serve the old route in California.

I would also extend the 33 to Asda Queslett where there is sufficient recovery time in the timetable, and add an extra bus onto the 93x to solve reliability.

I would also look into splitting the 11 into 3 parts: Perry Barr - Acocks Green; Acocks Green - Bearwood; Bearwood - Perry Barr and have the 11 circular run every 15 mins and 11 shorts every 15 in order to cause less reliability problems. Perry Barr or West Brom could also run the north western shorts to save on dead mileage. However the proposed would mean a combined 7/8 min frequency however this is only an idea that would need to be looked into more.
33 Asda Queslett via Perry Barr, Kingstanding, Pheasey
7 Sutton Coldfield via Witton, Perry Common, Boldmere

bususer28

Quote from: The Fox 4846 on November 10, 2020, 05:55:59 PM


I would also look into splitting the 11 into 3 parts: Perry Barr - Acocks Green; Acocks Green - Bearwood; Bearwood - Perry Barr and have the 11 circular run every 15 mins and 11 shorts every 15 in order to cause less reliability problems. Perry Barr or West Brom could also run the north western shorts to save on dead mileage.
You'll be surprised as to how many people travel extensive distances on the 11. Let's take myself, I live in Kings Norton and if I need to get to Sutton, I often use the 11 to get to Erdington so I avoid having to cross the city centre. Timewise it takes exactly the same. So I think the 11 is fine as it is.

MasterPlan

Quote from: The Fox 4846 on November 10, 2020, 05:55:59 PM
I've had a thought regarding the Harborne corridor. Why don't they bring back the 29 as in 23/24 to Harborne then 76 to Northfield so that there are the 23/24/29 to Harborne at a set frequency. Every other 29 could be operated as a short to either Barnes Hill, Harborne or Wesley Castle to reduce potential pvr. Either the frequency would be 12 mins each, each 10 minutes but 29 alt. shorts or another frequency but keeping the simplicity and frequency as turn up & go. Such that instead of every 4/5 mins to Harborne, it would be every 3-4 mins or 4 mins. I would also suggested to amend the 29 to serve the old route in California.

The void still hasn't been filled in terms of the 29. I can't see the 76 being a long-term solution & even now people would be glad to see it back.

In terms of California, I assume you're referring to Stonehouse Hill? If so, I don't see much point in that.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

j789

Quote from: MasterPlan on November 10, 2020, 06:19:09 PM
The void still hasn't been filled in terms of the 29. I can't see the 76 being a long-term solution & even now people would be glad to see it back.

In terms of California, I assume you're referring to Stonehouse Hill? If so, I don't see much point in that.

I think a better option for a Harborne to Northfield route rather than the 29 is to extend one 24 from Quinton every 15 minutes direct  via West Boulevard and Barnes Hill. This could be the 24A. I would run the 24A directly along Quinton Road West from Ridgacre Lane and have the normal 24 doing the loop around Simmons drive for a 15 min frequency around there. Combined, the 24/24A would still operate the main part of the route every 7/8 minutes. It would also create new links from Quinton to Northfield which I think would be popular.

DJ

With the 202 returning, I'd like to see the 002 extended to Northfield, keeping the link to Halesowen. It could even be a couple of 002s an hour, or every other one.

Any views/comments are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.

Jack

I agree with the 33 going to Asda. But I would send it down Hillingford Avenue instead of continuing along Collingwood like the 5 and 997 do and then send it along the back of Asda and terminate at the 424 stop.
Would mean they aren't getting targeted when on layover at Collingwood terminus.

MasterPlan

Quote from: j789 on November 10, 2020, 07:47:23 PM
I think a better option for a Harborne to Northfield route rather than the 29 is to extend one 24 from Quinton every 15 minutes direct  via West Boulevard and Barnes Hill. This could be the 24A. I would run the 24A directly along Quinton Road West from Ridgacre Lane and have the normal 24 doing the loop around Simmons drive for a 15 min frequency around there. Combined, the 24/24A would still operate the main part of the route every 7/8 minutes. It would also create new links from Quinton to Northfield which I think would be popular.

Don't understand the point of that. If the regular 24 was still running every 8 mins on top of the 24A every 15 mins.you may as well have a 29 every 15 mins instead.

The 39/39A run between Quinton and Northfield.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

Quote from: MasterPlan on November 10, 2020, 11:09:31 PM
If the regular 24 was still running every 8 mins on top of the 24A every 15 mins.
Sounds to me like they mean 24 every 15 minutes, 24A extension every 15 minutes Combining to every 7/8 minutes.
Quote from: j789 on November 10, 2020, 07:47:23 PM
Combined, the 24/24A would still operate the main part of the route every 7/8 minutes
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

mesub

Quote from: MasterPlan on November 10, 2020, 11:09:31 PM

The 39/39A run between Quinton and Northfield.

The 39A actually runs between Woodgate Valley South and Northfield, not Quinton.
23 - Bartley Green
76 - Northfield
X20 - Birmingham Via Longbridge, Northfield & QE Hospital / University

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