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Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

Started by Stuharris 6360, May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM

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JackC

Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2014, 12:27:19 AM
WB hasn't had new deckers for 8 years..

I'd like to see some of these at WB and maybe they'll get a few but as many have stated before, WB desperately needs new full size singles as a priority. We currently only have little over a dozen single deckers that over 15 years old and that number needs to come up sooner rather than later.

CL

Quote from: JackC on May 08, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2014, 12:27:19 AM
WB hasn't had new deckers for 8 years..

I'd like to see some of these at WB and maybe they'll get a few but as many have stated before, WB desperately needs new full size singles as a priority. We currently only have little over a dozen single deckers that over 15 years old and that number needs to come up sooner rather than later.

I think they'd be great for the 48, y'know, to step up their game a bit to match the rest of the Harborne Buses, otherwise, do something with the 53? The 82 & 87 are already top-notch, they don't need upgrading, but maybe the 83/89? Or 74/75?
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Sh4318

Quote from: clayderman on May 08, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: JackC on May 08, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2014, 12:27:19 AM
WB hasn't had new deckers for 8 years..

I'd like to see some of these at WB and maybe they'll get a few but as many have stated before, WB desperately needs new full size singles as a priority. We currently only have little over a dozen single deckers that over 15 years old and that number needs to come up sooner rather than later.

I think they'd be great for the 48, y'know, to step up their game a bit to match the rest of the Harborne Buses, otherwise, do something with the 53? The 82 & 87 are already top-notch, they don't need upgrading, but maybe the 83/89? Or 74/75?

Either 82/87 and 74/75 would get first dibs on new buses you would think as they're showcase routes. Everything else has sufficiently adequate deckers already
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

CL

Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
Quote from: clayderman on May 08, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: JackC on May 08, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2014, 12:27:19 AM
WB hasn't had new deckers for 8 years..

I'd like to see some of these at WB and maybe they'll get a few but as many have stated before, WB desperately needs new full size singles as a priority. We currently only have little over a dozen single deckers that over 15 years old and that number needs to come up sooner rather than later.

I think they'd be great for the 48, y'know, to step up their game a bit to match the rest of the Harborne Buses, otherwise, do something with the 53? The 82 & 87 are already top-notch, they don't need upgrading, but maybe the 83/89? Or 74/75?

Either 82/87 and 74/75 would get first dibs on new buses you would think as they're showcase routes. Everything else has sufficiently adequate deckers already

Despite WB recently claiming a few new E200's! Also, i've noticed, WB's B7TL ALX400 is slightly slower than PB's B7TL ALX400/Gemini, when it comes to climbing Hockley Hill/Constitution Hill. Which is why I prefer journeys on the 16! :) (Still, I'd want to see the Stratford Road having a few of these new E400s, on services like the 2 & 3? They could change the frequency, if so...)
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trident4370

I'm going to say Coventry, just to be different :P I do think WB have more of a chance though.

nitromatt1

Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 09:36:04 PM
I'm going to say Coventry, just to be different :P

I'll be very different then and say AG for the circle. ;)

trident4370

Nothing wrong with the Presidents on the O/C, they have a couple of years left in them yet ;) However Enviros at AG is an interesting thought

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Nothing wrong with the Presidents on the O/C, they have a couple of years left in them yet ;) However Enviros at AG is an interesting thought

The presidents may have a couple of years left in them yet, but can they continue to operate the O/C, as they get older and older, breakdowns will no doubt increase and the 11 route isn't the easiest if a breakdown requires a tow back to Acocks Green.
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CL

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 08, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Nothing wrong with the Presidents on the O/C, they have a couple of years left in them yet ;) However Enviros at AG is an interesting thought

The presidents may have a couple of years left in them yet, but can they continue to operate the O/C, as they get older and older, breakdowns will no doubt increase and the 11 route isn't the easiest if a breakdown requires a tow back to Acocks Green.

True, but an end of an era would probably be a start of a new one in this case! lol.
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trident4370

I suppose you are right Stu but I'd imagine NX will act when that becomes a major problem. I just don't see why people are so fascinated with the 11 having new all the while!

Sh4318

Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Nothing wrong with the Presidents on the O/C, they have a couple of years left in them yet ;) However Enviros at AG is an interesting thought

Yeah, the Presidents are doing a good job on the Outer Circle for the time being. I'd like to see the 11 go back to 100% Gemini, probably won't see that again though
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

trident4370

#56
I definitely think when the presidents do go, the Geminis should be refurbed and return, maybe even rebranded again! I think new Enviro 400 on there would be a waste tbh.

Sh4318

Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 10:52:04 PM
I definitely think when the presidents do go, the Geminis should be refurbed and return, maybe even rebranded again! I think new Enviro 400 on there would be a waste tbh.

Agreed! We can only dream and hope. Enviro's.. In fact anything Alexander Dennis would look strange on the Outer Circle. Can see first batch Enviros going on either Dudley or Pershore Roads, but that's just a hunch
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

Liberator9

I'd agree about putting refurbed Geminis on the 11. The Geminis are still excellent buses and suit the 11 well

Mike K

Just read in this article that the new E400 won't have the option of gasket glazed windows which is excellent news:
http://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/operators-bus/

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