Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Liverpool Street]

Love it. Well done ADL. I really hope the 'new' engines/ECU don't suffer the same lag that the current E400 has. Although, I suspect it's NXWM's idea with fuel economy etc. They've nearly eliminated kick-down totally on new XF boxes, the ones most prone to doing it!

Although I'd say again, absolute top work from ADL here.

Certainly 100x better than the Gemini 3 bodywork ;)

Btw i guess XF is a typo for ZF? ;)

Sorry, yes, typo!

Are there any pictures of the rear yet apart from this one http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dy709qPf7Mk/UvqXB23aHuI/AAAAAAAAAmw/RN7VdxRwIfQ/s1600/1798925_477673805678381_1232847791_o.jpg

There's one of the London type in the pdf file that ADL has. It's of the new Eurp 6 Specs, although, the picture is quite small...

Don't know if pdf links work on here but here it is:
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-content/files_mf/1398943981NewEnviro400specification.pdf

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-content/files_mf/1398944137NewEnviro400brochure.pdf

from looking at the pictures in the brochure, the windows are changed from inside and the seat behind the driver has been removed

Yes, this is correct. It's more of a latch system that I can see, hence why it can get changed in 3 minutes.

[Stevo]

Which length will NXWM have? The short length 10.3m now has 74 seats. What length are the current E400s?

[Tony]

Which length will NXWM have? The short length 10.3m now has 74 seats. What length are the current E400s?

We haven't got long to wait now, some should be built next month

[PM]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

[Tony]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I haven't seen the list yet.

[PM]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I haven't seen the list yet.

No worries-I'm just surprised NX don't want to show off a bit more about how good the new buses that will soon be arriving are.

[BN]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I haven't seen the list yet.

No worries-I'm just surprised NX don't want to show off a bit more about how good the new buses that will soon be arriving are.

I know about the first batch, but have been swarn
to secrecy.

[monkeyjoe]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I haven't seen the list yet.

No worries-I'm just surprised NX don't want to show off a bit more about how good the new buses that will soon be arriving are.

I know about the first batch, but have been swarn
to secrecy.

Do you think the location of the first batch is likely to spark any surprises from us bus liking types BN?

[Tony]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I haven't seen the list yet.

No worries-I'm just surprised NX don't want to show off a bit more about how good the new buses that will soon be arriving are.

I know about the first batch, but have been swarn
to secrecy.

Do you think the location of the first batch is likely to spark any surprises from us bus liking types BN?

Please don't ask him for clues, I know I am told I can only reveal allocations once the first one arrives

[CL]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I'd imagine WN? They seem to lack newer buses, despite the recent B7RLEs and E400H's. But from what I see, most of their fleet are made up of Tridents (Possibly to replace the Spectras?) . If not WN, then AG - definitely lacking some ADL vehicles there! :D

[Rob H]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I'd imagine WN? They seem to lack newer buses, despite the recent B7RLEs and E400H's. But from what I see, most of their fleet are made up of Tridents (Possibly to replace the Spectras?) . If not WN, then AG - definitely lacking some ADL vehicles there! :D

I'd say BC for the Pershore/Bristol Road Routes :)

[winston]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I'd imagine WN? They seem to lack newer buses, despite the recent B7RLEs and E400H's. But from what I see, most of their fleet are made up of Tridents (Possibly to replace the Spectras?) . If not WN, then AG - definitely lacking some ADL vehicles there! :D

WN are not having any new buses this year. My money is on BC recieving the first batch of the new order with cascaded Tridents to WN and PE to replace the remaining mercs there

I would think BC will most likely receive some of new E400's due in summer 2014, but I'd be very surprised if both the Pershore & Bristol Roads got upgraded within the same year, that would be swallow circa 50 new buses.

Dundee also look set to be getting 10 x Y-reg Tridents from NXWM for new Fife schools work gained from August, as BC still has 55 of these Tridents, chances are that is the most likely source.

[monkeyjoe]

Hope NXWM pull their finger out and sort out the 94. Find it embarrassing  that the competition continue to investment in new vehicles i.e 14 plates etc. Just my humble view had to say that as not said it in a while.

[CL]

Do we have any more indication of where they might be going and what they might be replacing?

I'd imagine WN? They seem to lack newer buses, despite the recent B7RLEs and E400H's. But from what I see, most of their fleet are made up of Tridents (Possibly to replace the Spectras?) . If not WN, then AG - definitely lacking some ADL vehicles there! :D

WN are not having any new buses this year. My money is on BC recieving the first batch of the new order with cascaded Tridents to WN and PE to replace the remaining mercs there

I would think BC will most likely receive some of new E400's due in summer 2014, but I'd be very surprised if both the Pershore & Bristol Roads got upgraded within the same year, that would be swallow circa 50 new buses.

Dundee also look set to be getting 10 x Y-reg Tridents from NXWM for new Fife schools work gained from August, as BC still has 55 of these Tridents, chances are that is the most likely source.

If so, and if BC is planning on replacing their tridents, better make the most of my journeys to school! :D

[Sh4318]

WB hasn't had new deckers for 8 years..