Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[winston]

Just to make it clear, I didn't have a problem with any of your comments @Winston. I agree with @Matt, as they say, treat others the way you expect to be treated. Now, back to the subject at hand.

@Sh4318 No worries, I didn't think you did.

[Mike K]

I reckon some of this latest batch should go to BC to upgrade the 24. It's been a while since there were any new buses on this side of the city.

(Ducks for cover...)

[winston]

I reckon some of this latest batch should go to BC to upgrade the 24. It's been a while since there were any new buses on this side of the city.

(Ducks for cover...)

@Mike K, now that's just been greedy.....

[mranon]

Being that NE have bought new buses to be used in the west Midlands, they should be used in the West Midlands first! If they want any buses for the Commonwealth Games, then send them some Spectra's!

Perhaps you might like to drive a Spectra 300 miles, if it could actually manage to go 300 miles on a motorway

i bet it would manage it too. not fast but they have a heavy feel to them, which in my opinion means they feel sturdier. didnt either r1/2 neg get abroad when fairly new? better still a one way trip to barnsley would be better

[lynx1103]

The PVR of the 82/87 is around 23/24. Only 18 Geminis were ordered for these routes in 2006

i have already confirmed no new deckers for WB at the minute.

i have a feeling these new enviros will go to PB, and WB will have the ALX400 to replace mercs.

That was my original thought. The only issue is, would WB then have a too large DD/SD ratio? Here's my wild idea...

20 x Enviro400s new to PB
20 x ALX400s PB to WB
12 x Mercs/B6s WB to withdrawn
8 x Geminis (the 54 plates) WB to WA
8 x Tridents WA to PN
8 x Mercs PN to withdrawn

Thereby further worsening the WB double-deck age profile...

It's not gonna get any better by the looks of it. @Winston I thought @wbdriver confirmed there were no new Enviro 400s any time soon, I didn't know he meant this year

@Sh4318 I take anytime soon to mean no double deckers due at WB from the current deliveries due. WB will have to have some new or newer cascaded deckers sooner rather than later. My money is on the Dudley Road being upgraded next year. The 8 x 54 plate Gemini could be moved back to AG with the rest of the batch but if only if replaced by something newer. There's no point swapping them for older Presidents or ALX 400's from PB as WB looses out.

Does that mean WA B6/B10L will outlive Mercs at pensnett although 2 years older

[Liverpool Street]

I reckon some of this latest batch should go to BC to upgrade the 24. It's been a while since there were any new buses on this side of the city.

(Ducks for cover...)

Hahaha @Mike K, they should upgrade the 22/23 corridor... those poor ageing Hybrids could do with retirement!

[Sayeed]

As Karl mentioned long time ago,

Brum garages and Walsall will have the new buses
West brom wolves pensnett will have cascaded buses
Pensnett will probably have tridents or early enviro 400s
Pensnett mercs will go on till the end of 2014 at least

Maybe those 20 x E400's it could be for WA and replace 997 and X51 fleets? Looking at the fleetlist, it requires 21 fleets.

[JIM C]

we had the new E 400 demonstrator in dundee two weeks ago .its new design is brilliant for the driver ,but wont be delivered until the 2015 order .

[Stevo]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

[winston]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

[pb2012]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

They are fitting euro 6 engines to the now old e400 if requested?

[winston]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

They are fitting euro 6 engines to the now old e400 if requested?

I know, but the original comment from Jim C up in Dundee referred to the E400 MMC not being delivered to NX until 2015 which I suspect what the 'Euro 6' comment related to

[pb2012]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

They are fitting euro 6 engines to the now old e400 if requested?

I know, but the original comment from Jim C up in Dundee referred to the E400 MMC not being delivered to NX until 2015 which I suspect what the 'Euro 6' comment related to

On the subject do you think NX will re-register them with a B prefix or keep the S prefix that they are arriving with?

[winston]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

They are fitting euro 6 engines to the now old e400 if requested?

I know, but the original comment from Jim C up in Dundee referred to the E400 MMC not being delivered to NX until 2015 which I suspect what the 'Euro 6' comment related to

On the subject do you think NX will re-register them with a B prefix or keep the S prefix that they are arriving with?

They will all be registered at ADL from now on with Scottish marks, it was posted somewhere else on here that the Birmingham DVLA office had closed, so no more BX reg's for NXWM  :-[

[Mike K]

Does that mean no Euro 6 E400s will come to NXWM this year, or is it just NX Dundee's vehicles that won't come till 2015?

Correct, whether for the West Midlands or Dundee they are all part of the NX order, so no MMC's until 2015.

They are fitting euro 6 engines to the now old e400 if requested?

I know, but the original comment from Jim C up in Dundee referred to the E400 MMC not being delivered to NX until 2015 which I suspect what the 'Euro 6' comment related to

On the subject do you think NX will re-register them with a B prefix or keep the S prefix that they are arriving with?

They will all be registered at ADL from now on with Scottish marks, it was posted somewhere else on here that the Birmingham DVLA office had closed, so no more BX reg's for NXWM  :-[

How does the new bus registration process work? Brand new cars supplier through West Midlands dealerships are still allocated Bx prefixed registrations but I suppose with buses there often isn't the concept of a dealer acting as an intermediary between the manufacturer and the buyer. Apologies for straying off topic, just curious.

Oh, and why do so many new Volvo Wright buses carry Birmingham plates (e.g. First, Brighton & Hove etc)?