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Title: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 04:22:59 PM

Hi I was wondering if there is anyone on here how has a full list of the destinations and via points for (NX) for all services across the West Midlands? I am interested in seeing who many Front destination blinds have more that one via point on them or if any side blinds have any via points that pop up.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:15:52 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 04:22:59 PM
Hi I was wondering if there is anyone on here how has a full list of the destinations and via points for (NX) for all services across the West Midlands? I am interested in seeing who many Front destination blinds have more that one via point on them or if any side blinds have any via points that pop up.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

You can always submit a FOI request to NX asking them, however bare in mind it may take a while due to the current circumstances. Someone did this for Lothian on the whatdotheyknow website. I'd be interested to see what you can get.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:18:13 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:15:52 PM
You can always submit a FOI request to NX asking them, however bare in mind it may take a while due to the current circumstances. Someone did this for Lothian on the whatdotheyknow website. I'd be interested to see what you can get.

I was hoping that someone on here would be able to shed some light on it, but obviously not.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:20:24 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:18:13 PM
I was hoping that someone on here would be able to shed some light on it, but obviously not.

It's not a document I'd imagine is made public, if such a thing exists.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:25:13 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:20:24 PM
It's not a document I'd imagine is made public, if such a thing exists.

I was asking for a document orso to speak! if anybody know off the top of there heads'!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:31:54 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:25:13 PM
I was asking for a document orso to speak! if anybody know off the top of there heads'!

I've already pointed you in the direction of where you could possibly obtain the information, which I think is where your best bet is. There's no need to have that attitude.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2020, 05:33:34 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:15:52 PM
You can always submit a FOI request to NX asking them, however bare in mind it may take a while due to the current circumstances. Someone did this for Lothian on the whatdotheyknow website. I'd be interested to see what you can get.

National Express doesn't have to adhere to FOI requests as it is not a public body.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:36:36 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 01, 2020, 05:31:54 PM
I've already pointed you in the direction of where you could possibly obtain the information, which I think is where your best bet is. There's no need to have that attitude.

It wasn't supposed to come across aresy. If it did sorry. I just though that as there are some people on here with background in NX or also if there out and about taking photos, they could post here. I know at the moment there shouldn't be anyone taking photos in the currect climate at least not far away from there houses.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:38:31 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 05:33:34 PM
National Express doesn't have to adhere to FOI requests as it is not a public body.

So even if I did request information they may not allow me to have it?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2020, 05:45:36 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:38:31 PM

So even if I did request information they may not allow me to have it?

The blinds are currently done by an outside company and NX do not actually have the database anyway!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 05:47:30 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 05:45:36 PM
The blinds are currently done by an outside company and NX do not actually have the database anyway!

But don't NX chose the Destination and Via points, then the company that you outsource it to updates the blinds?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM

The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

(I can't wait to be able to get out a bit more again!)

But personally I can't see the point of what you are trying to achieve to be honest.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:07:44 PM

Quote from: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

(I can't wait to be able to out a bit more again!)

But personally I can't see the point of what you are trying to achieve to be honest.

I am trying to create my own stop lists which includes an info page that has destination indicators as a heading.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:12:33 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:07:44 PM
I am trying to create my own stop lists which includes an info page that has destination indicators as a heading.

You will be wasting you time as you will never keep it up to date, as they change regularly

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on July 01, 2020, 07:17:16 PM

Quote from: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

The ones I know not mentioned in the list above are:
55 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
94 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
28 - Great Barr/Heartlands Hospital/Small Heath via Erdington.
14 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Alum Rock.
X70 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Coleshill.
60 - Birmingham/Cranes Park via Coventry Road.
X20/X21/X22 - Birmingham/Cofton Hackett/Woodcock Hill/Woodgate via University.
65 - Birmingham/Perry Common via Slade Road.
67 - Birmingham/Castle Vale via Tyburn Road.
25 - Birmingham/QE Hospital via Ladywood.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:23:58 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:12:33 PM
You will be wasting you time as you will never keep it up to date, as they change regularly

I am keeping up with them and apart from the destination Indicators I'm doing jusy fine

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:40:22 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:23:58 PM
I am keeping up with them and apart from the destination Indicators I'm doing jusy fine

It was the destinations I was referring to

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:47:15 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:40:22 PM
It was the destinations I was referring to

This is why I posted. I thougt anyone on here would be able to help including you. Which you are being helpful. however I'd of thought you'd be able to keep up with everything.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:49:38 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 01, 2020, 07:47:15 PM
This is why I posted. I thougt anyone on here would be able to help including you. Which you are being helpful. however I'd of thought you'd be able to keep up with everything.

No, because Adeon hold the database.

Some of their antics really annoy me (via Coventry) and I make my views known, but I only know what I see on the buses

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: paulb1973 on July 01, 2020, 08:55:45 PM

I've been trying to list all the NXC related ones - these days most buses just display "via Coventry" under the destination. These are from my own notes, so don't take this as gospel - amendments are needed I think!

1 Chapelfields – City Centre – University Hospital via Coventry
3 Arena Park – Hen Lane – City Centre – Cheylesmore - Fenside
3A Arena Park – Hen Lane – City Centre – Cheylesmore - Fenside
4 Tile Hill – Canley - City (Pool Meadow) – Hillfields - Ball Hill - Stoke Hill - Wyken - University Hospital
4A City (Pool Meadow) – Westwood Business Park via Hearsall Common
5 Arena Tesco/Radford – City (Pool Meadow) via Coundon
6 Little Heath - City (Pool Meadow) - Tile Hill North - Tanyard Farm
6A Victoria Farm - Bell Green - Little Heath - City (Pool Meadow) - Tile Hill North - Broad Lane - Tanyard Farm
7 City (Pool Meadow) - Coundon - Kingsbury Road - Brownshill Green/Amazon BHX4
8 Eastern Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - Woodway Lane - Wigston Road - Walsgrave [Business Park]
8A Eastern Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - Woodway Lane - Ringwood Highway - Henley Green
(8S as 8 via but Cardinal Wiseman School)
9 Green Lane [Leasowes Avenue] - Green Lane - Finham - Leamington Road - Stoney Road - Rail Station - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - University Hospital
9A Green Lane [Leasowes Avenue] - Kenpas Highway - Mantilla Drive - Stoney Road - Rail Station - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - University Hospital
(9S as 9A but some journeys commence from Bishop Ullathorne School)
10 Bell Green - Henley Green - City (Pool Meadow) – Canley Station/Tile Hill via Earlsdon
10A Bell Green – Henley Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth Road - Cannon Hill Road - Cannon Park Shops - John Rouse Avenue – Westwood Business Park
(10S as 10 but some journeys from Cardinal Wiseman School)
11 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Leamington Spa via University of Warwick & Kenilworth
12X Coventry Direct (Pool Meadow) - University of Warwick/Canley
13 Whitmore Park – Willenhall via Jubilee Crescent & City Centre
13A Whitmore Park - Willenhall via City Centre & Binley Trading Estate
16 City (Burges) - Keresley Village via Radford Road
20 Coventry (Trinity Street) – Nuneaton/Bedworth via Foleshill Road
20A City (Trinity Street) – Bell Green (Riley Square)/University Hospital via Foleshill Road
20B City (Trinity Street) – Longford (Oban Road)
20C City (Trinity Street) – Walsgrave Tesco via Foleshill Road and Lenton's Lane
21 Wood End – Willenhall via City (Hales Street/Trinity Street) & Cheylesmore
21A Wood End - City (Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Middlemarch Business Park
(21S as 21 but commencing from Cardinal Wiseman School)
23 Allesley Park – City (Hales St/Burges) – Warwickshire Shopping Park/University Hospital via Stoke Aldermoor & Ernesford Grange
23S Blue Coat C.E. School – City

52 Coventry (Blue Coat C.E. School) - Bedworth via Ash Green
57 West Coventry Academy School – Allesley Park/City, Pool Meadow via Tile Hill
58 West Coventry Academy School – City via Allesley Village
58A West Coventry Academy School - Radford (Jubilee Crescent)/Allesley Park
59 Tile Hill Wood School - Eastern Green (Sutton Avenue Shops) via Mount Nod
539 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth via Baginton, Bubbenhall & Stoneleigh
580 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby (Clifton Road) via Ryton, Stretton, Princethorpe & Dunchurch (some journey's via Baginton & Bubbenhall)
X30 Ansty Park – Coventry – Ansty Park via Rail Station
A50 Amazon Rugby Gateway – Coventry Amazon BHX4

X1 Birmingham (Moor Street Queensway) – Coventry (Pool Meadow) via Yardley, Sheldon, NEC, Birmingham International Airport, Meriden, Allesley & Parkhill Drive

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Busboy105 on July 01, 2020, 08:57:19 PM

Here's some more @Bus Man K2:
17 (Birmingham-Tile Cross) via Hob Moor Road
33(Birmingham-Pheasey) via Perry Barr
73 (Heartlands Hospital-Solihull Town Centre) via Yardley and Sheldon
P.S on the Volvos the via Yardley and via Sheldon it scrolls between them but in the E200 and E400 MMC's it shows them both together.
96 (Chelmsley Wood-Kingstanding) via Erdington & the Fort
97 (Birmingham-Chelmsley Wood) via Meadway
X1 (Birmingham-Coventry) via Airport & NEC
X2- (Birmingham-Solihull Station) via Solihull (This is probably the dumbest one on the list.)

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: MasterPlan on July 01, 2020, 09:34:35 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:49:38 PM
No, because Adeon hold the database.

Some of their antics really annoy me (via Coventry) and I make my views known, but I only know what I see on the buses

Do NX not get a say in what is displayed on the destinations then?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:39:38 AM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:49:38 PM
No, because Adeon hold the database.

Some of their antics really annoy me (via Coventry) and I make my views known, but I only know what I see on the buses

I'd still think people within NX (which one of them is you) would be up to speed with the destination blind changes? That's even though it's out of your control

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:41:37 AM

Are all the via point that are mentioned on page 1 and some on page 2 for both directions?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:46:00 AM

Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2020, 07:40:22 PM
It was the destinations I was referring to

That's why I posted on here to see if anybody could help, knowing so many of you are from the bus industry and who may actually work for the company in question. I know that some people on here are only enthusiasts like me, but there seem to be quite a few employees on here as well.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 10:14:31 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:41:37 AM
Are all the via point that are mentioned on page 1 and some on page 2 for both directions?

NX have the same via points for both directions, yes.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Dom on July 02, 2020, 10:56:17 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:41:37 AM
Are all the via point that are mentioned on page 1 and some on page 2 for both directions?

I really don't get what you're trying to achieve.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 02, 2020, 11:25:58 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
I'd still think people within NX (which one of them is you) would be up to speed with the destination blind changes? That's even though it's out of your control

I suppose it depends on who creates the list of what destinations need to be programmed that is sent to Adeon. Not everyone at NX knows about the destination blinds.
Anyway, can't you just look at pictures on here, google, flickr etc to find your information?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 11:42:13 AM

Quote from: Dom on July 02, 2020, 10:56:17 AM
I really don't get what you're trying to achieve.

I am trying to achieve drawing up my own stop lists from scratch. This includes an information page with Destination and Via points, Route description, frequencies. destination indicators (I.e. front
Bus blind info), return jrny time/single jrny time, what garage operates that particular route and what vehicles are used on the route.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 11:45:43 AM

Quote from: Pat on July 02, 2020, 11:25:58 AM
I suppose it depends on who creates the list of what destinations need to be programmed that is sent to Adeon. Not everyone at NX knows about the destination blinds.
Anyway, can't you just look at pictures on here, google, flickr etc to find your information?

I suppose I could however the pics could be outdated by updated to the blinds. I don't know how long it takes people to upload a photo to a website (especially if they are working into the night). which could mean that they don't update it until a couple of days or even week after they have taking the photo.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 12:15:56 PM

Quote from: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

(I can't wait to be able to get out a bit more again!)

But personally I can't see the point of what you are trying to achieve to be honest.

For the 4A EVE and Sun jrnys do they show up anything different on the front blind?

This goes for any of the other Eve and Sun or even Peak hours or also the jrny that terminate at JLR Solihull plant or serve the plant?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on July 01, 2020, 08:55:45 PM
I've been trying to list all the NXC related ones - these days most buses just display "via Coventry" under the destination. These are from my own notes, so don't take this as gospel - amendments are needed I think!

1 Chapelfields – City Centre – University Hospital via Coventry
3 Arena Park – Hen Lane – City Centre – Cheylesmore - Fenside
3A Arena Park – Hen Lane – City Centre – Cheylesmore - Fenside
4 Tile Hill – Canley - City (Pool Meadow) – Hillfields - Ball Hill - Stoke Hill - Wyken - University Hospital
4A City (Pool Meadow) – Westwood Business Park via Hearsall Common
5 Arena Tesco/Radford – City (Pool Meadow) via Coundon
6 Little Heath - City (Pool Meadow) - Tile Hill North - Tanyard Farm
6A Victoria Farm - Bell Green - Little Heath - City (Pool Meadow) - Tile Hill North - Broad Lane - Tanyard Farm
7 City (Pool Meadow) - Coundon - Kingsbury Road - Brownshill Green/Amazon BHX4
8 Eastern Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - Woodway Lane - Wigston Road - Walsgrave [Business Park]
8A Eastern Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - Woodway Lane - Ringwood Highway - Henley Green
(8S as 8 via but Cardinal Wiseman School)
9 Green Lane [Leasowes Avenue] - Green Lane - Finham - Leamington Road - Stoney Road - Rail Station - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - University Hospital
9A Green Lane [Leasowes Avenue] - Kenpas Highway - Mantilla Drive - Stoney Road - Rail Station - City (Pool Meadow) - Ball Hill - Ansty Road - University Hospital
(9S as 9A but some journeys commence from Bishop Ullathorne School)
10 Bell Green - Henley Green - City (Pool Meadow) – Canley Station/Tile Hill via Earlsdon
10A Bell Green – Henley Green - City (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth Road - Cannon Hill Road - Cannon Park Shops - John Rouse Avenue – Westwood Business Park
(10S as 10 but some journeys from Cardinal Wiseman School)
11 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Leamington Spa via University of Warwick & Kenilworth
12X Coventry Direct (Pool Meadow) - University of Warwick/Canley
13 Whitmore Park – Willenhall via Jubilee Crescent & City Centre
13A Whitmore Park - Willenhall via City Centre & Binley Trading Estate
16 City (Burges) - Keresley Village via Radford Road
20 Coventry (Trinity Street) – Nuneaton/Bedworth via Foleshill Road
20A City (Trinity Street) – Bell Green (Riley Square)/University Hospital via Foleshill Road
20B City (Trinity Street) – Longford (Oban Road)
20C City (Trinity Street) – Walsgrave Tesco via Foleshill Road and Lenton's Lane
21 Wood End – Willenhall via City (Hales Street/Trinity Street) & Cheylesmore
21A Wood End - City (Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Middlemarch Business Park
(21S as 21 but commencing from Cardinal Wiseman School)
23 Allesley Park – City (Hales St/Burges) – Warwickshire Shopping Park/University Hospital via Stoke Aldermoor & Ernesford Grange
23S Blue Coat C.E. School – City

52 Coventry (Blue Coat C.E. School) - Bedworth via Ash Green
57 West Coventry Academy School – Allesley Park/City, Pool Meadow via Tile Hill
58 West Coventry Academy School – City via Allesley Village
58A West Coventry Academy School - Radford (Jubilee Crescent)/Allesley Park
59 Tile Hill Wood School - Eastern Green (Sutton Avenue Shops) via Mount Nod
539 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth via Baginton, Bubbenhall & Stoneleigh
580 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby (Clifton Road) via Ryton, Stretton, Princethorpe & Dunchurch (some journey's via Baginton & Bubbenhall)
X30 Ansty Park – Coventry – Ansty Park via Rail Station
A50 Amazon Rugby Gateway – Coventry Amazon BHX4

X1 Birmingham (Moor Street Queensway) – Coventry (Pool Meadow) via Yardley, Sheldon, NEC, Birmingham International Airport, Meriden, Allesley & Parkhill Drive

Thanks for these.

I only needed the main routes anyway.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 02, 2020, 12:38:51 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
I suppose I could however the pics could be outdated by updated to the blinds. I don't know how long it takes people to upload a photo to a website (especially if they are working into the night). which could mean that they don't update it until a couple of days or even week after they have taking the photo.

Flickr has a facility where you can choose to see photos from particular dates. Also, Tony's main site shows the date the photos were taken.
Also, the 'West Midlands Transport' Facebook page is another good place, as there are lots of photos from both enthusiasts and staff members.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 12:51:20 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 02, 2020, 12:38:51 PM
Flickr has a facility where you can choose to see photos from particular dates. Also, Tony's main site shows the date the photos were taken.
Also, the 'West Midlands Transport' Facebook page is another good place, as there are lots of photos from both enthusiasts and staff members.

That's what I'm saying though. Say you have taken a photo today but haven't had chance to up load it to whatever website you normally upload it to. By the time you've uploaded it (which could be a few days or week) later the blinds may have changed. This is if Tony is correct in saying they change regularly. Not saying he should or should know. however if that's correct and your photo apears on a website a couple of weeks later that info on the photo could/would be out of date.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: BH2004 on July 02, 2020, 01:07:49 PM

What are the via points on the routes at WN?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 02, 2020, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 02, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
That's what I'm saying though. Say you have taken a photo today but haven't had chance to up load it to whatever website you normally upload it to. By the time you've uploaded it (which could be a few days or week) later the blinds may have changed. This is if Tony is correct in saying they change regularly. Not saying he should or should know. however if that's correct and your photo apears on a website a couple of weeks later that info on the photo could/would be out of date.

Flickr shows the date taken, regardless of when it was uploaded. From what i've seen, the via points have stayed the same since the new static displays were introduced, so I don't think you'd have too much of a problem getting accurate information.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 01:49:24 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 02, 2020, 01:29:38 PM
From what i've seen, the via points have stayed the same since the new static displays were introduced,

I don't think that is correct. Some of them are changed occasionally.
94, 11A, 11C, 6, 8A and 8C have all changed over the past few months.

So they don't always remain the same.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 02, 2020, 01:59:18 PM

Quote from: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 01:49:24 PM
I don't think that is correct. Some of them are changed occasionally.
94, 11A, 11C, 6, 8A and 8C have all changed over the past few months.

So they don't always remain the same.

In Wolverhampton they have remained the same, hence why I said "From what I've seen."

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2020, 04:10:29 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 02, 2020, 01:59:18 PM
In Wolverhampton they have remained the same, hence why I said "From what I've seen."

The current ones are only temporary anyway. They have been done with just one via point to be able to get the social distancing messages in, so will all be changing again soon, so any database is pretty pointless right now

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 02, 2020, 04:42:50 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2020, 04:10:29 PM
The current ones are only temporary anyway. They have been done with just one via point to be able to get the social distancing messages in, so will all be changing again soon, so any database is pretty pointless right now

I'm on about before the lockdown. The destinations and via points have remained the same since the static displays were introduced 2-3 years ago.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 04:54:45 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2020, 04:10:29 PM
The current ones are only temporary anyway. They have been done with just one via point to be able to get the social distancing messages in, so will all be changing again soon, so any database is pretty pointless right now

They've had only the one via point for at least a year on most services anyway. The odd route still has 2 I think such as the 73.
And even now they don't display any sort of message with it?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2020, 05:41:57 PM

Quote from: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 04:54:45 PM

And even now they don't display any sort of message with it?

Probably because you haven't seen a full bus!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 05:46:16 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2020, 05:41:57 PM
Probably because you haven't seen a full bus!

Why does that mean they can't display more than one via point when they are empty though?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2020, 05:49:22 PM

Quote from: 2206 on July 02, 2020, 05:46:16 PM
Why does that mean they can't display more than one via point when they are empty though?

A whole new database had to be created in 24 hours to include the bus full option on every route.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 03, 2020, 01:04:25 PM

Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2020, 05:49:22 PM
A whole new database had to be created in 24 hours to include the bus full option on every route.

Won't the database have to be changed back to the old one when everything goes back to 'normal'? If it ever does!!!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on July 03, 2020, 02:17:41 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 03, 2020, 01:04:25 PM
Won't the database have to be changed back to the old one when everything goes back to 'normal'? If it ever does!!!

You can have multiple databases stored on a computer for Helen. It's just a case of uploading the right file to the bus when they're changed back to the originals.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 03, 2020, 04:50:31 PM

Quote from: Pat on July 03, 2020, 02:17:41 PM
You can have multiple databases stored on a computer for Helen. It's just a case of uploading the right file to the bus when they're changed back to the originals.

Thanks for that Pat.

Title: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 03:25:08 PM

Hi all

Would it be possible for anyone to give me all the currebt destination and via points that are on any of NX or NXC blinds please. Doesn't matter what area it covers. Either put them here or PM me please.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: 2206 on December 28, 2020, 04:08:17 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 03:25:08 PM
Hi all

Would it be possible for anyone to give me all the currebt destination and via points that are on any of NX or NXC blinds please. Doesn't matter what area it covers. Either put them here or PM me please.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

Think you asked this before. Not long ago. And not much has changed in that time I don't think.
55/94 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
14 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Alum Rock.
66 Birmingham/Sutton Coldfield via Erdington.
66 Star City.
28 Heartlands Hospital/Great Barr/Small Heath via Erdington.
X20/X21/X22 Birmingham/Cofton Hackett/Woodgate/Woodcock Hill via University.
65 Birmingham/Perry Common via Slade Road.
67 Birmingham/Castle Vale via Tyburn Road.
17 Birmingham/Tile Cross via Hob Moor Road.
11A/11C Outer Circle Clockwise/Anti-Clockwise.
97 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Meadway.
X70 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Coleshill.
X12 Birmingham/Solihull Station via Chelmsley Wood.
25 Birmingham/Q.E. Hospital via Ladywood.
X2 Birmingham/Solihull Station LIMITED STOP.
X2 Solihull then St Peters.
73 Solihull/Heartlands Hospital via Sheldon.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Stu on December 28, 2020, 04:17:39 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 28, 2020, 04:08:17 PM
Think you asked this before. Not long ago. And not much has changed in that time I don't think.

You're right, topic merged.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 04:40:45 PM

Quote from: Stu on December 28, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
You're right, topic merged.

Sorry I forgot I had asked this earlier. I know there has been some new additions and that's why I asked again.

e. g

Cov 3, 8/A, 14/14A, 17/A 18/A, 20B, 20C, 85/A/B*
B'ham 27.

I dont know any more. Plus since Covid has hit the company's have made changes to just show one via point on it, and most of the docs I've got still show more then onw via point. Yep I know I could ask NX through FOI but as Tony has said they posibly wouldn't comply if there was a doc available.

Lastly as well all the photos that are on the WBM Photos website are good but some are up to date and others aren't so I'd rather post here. If I ask it over and over again I'm sorry but there are areas that are still missing.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Tony on December 28, 2020, 05:01:42 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
Sorry I forgot I had asked this earlier. I know there has been some new additions and that's why I asked again.

e. g

Cov 3, 8/A, 14/14A, 17/A 18/A, 20B, 20C, 85/A/B*
B'ham 27.

I dont know any more. Plus since Covid has hit the company's have made changes to just show one via point on it, and most of the docs I've got still show more then onw via point. Yep I know I could ask NX through FOI but as Tony has said they posibly wouldn't comply if there was a doc available.

Lastly as well all the photos that are on the WBM Photos website are good but some are up to date and others aren't so I'd rather post here. If I ask it over and over again I'm sorry but there are areas that are still missing.

Regards

Bus Man K2

You cannot ask NX through a FOI as they are a private company and FOI do not apply to private companys

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: ellspurs on December 28, 2020, 05:05:11 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 28, 2020, 04:08:17 PM
Think you asked this before. Not long ago. And not much has changed in that time I don't think.
55/94 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
14 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Alum Rock.
66 Birmingham/Sutton Coldfield via Erdington.
66 Star City.
28 Heartlands Hospital/Great Barr/Small Heath via Erdington.
X20/X21/X22 Birmingham/Cofton Hackett/Woodgate/Woodcock Hill via University.
65 Birmingham/Perry Common via Slade Road.
67 Birmingham/Castle Vale via Tyburn Road.
17 Birmingham/Tile Cross via Hob Moor Road.
11A/11C Outer Circle Clockwise/Anti-Clockwise.
97 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Meadway.
X70 Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Coleshill.
X12 Birmingham/Solihull Station via Chelmsley Wood.
25 Birmingham/Q.E. Hospital via Ladywood.
X2 Birmingham/Solihull Station Limited Stop.
X2 Solihull then St Peters.
73 Solihull/Heartlands Hospital via Sheldon.

Does the X12 still use "Airport, then Solihull/Birmingham"? I've seen that on the blinds a number of times in Chelmsley, but not been out that much recently to see it.

@Bus Man K2 Cov 20 says "Coventry/Nuneaton/Bedworth via Foleshill Road", 20B has either Longford or Bayton Road as its destination (via Foleshill Road), and the 85/A/B just say "Coventry/Rugby" with no via field.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:11:11 PM

Quote from: ellspurs on December 28, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Does the X12 still use "Airport, then Solihull/Birmingham"? I've seen that on the blinds a number of times in Chelmsley, but not been out that much recently to see it.

@Bus Man K2 Cov 20 says "Coventry/Nuneaton/Bedworth via Foleshill Road", 20B has either Longford or Bayton Road as its destination (via Foleshill Road), and the 85/A/B just say "Coventry/Rugby" with no via field.

Thanks for this. What about the other services I mentioned or don't you know. Doesn't matter if you dont know, just wondered?

What about the X1 as well.

Any other areas? or Coventry routes that you know of?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Tony on December 28, 2020, 05:13:08 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:11:11 PM

Thanks for this. What about the other services I mentioned or don't you know. Doesn't matter if you dont know, just wondered?

What about the X1 as well.

Any other areas? or Coventry routes that you know of?

Also as I have already mentioned in the past the blinds are done by an outside contractor and no-one at NX has access to the database. It is updated on request by NX, but the whole database is not available to NX

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:13:38 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 28, 2020, 05:01:42 PM
You cannot ask NX through a FOI as they are a private company and FOI do not apply to private companys

Well that a little silly the. Can ai ask why FOI's don't apply for private companies?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Gareth on December 28, 2020, 05:15:00 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 04:40:45 PM
Yep I know I could ask NX through FOI

Whilst I don't fault anybody with a thirst for knowledge, no matter how geeky or niche it may be, everybody has better things to do than request and indeed answer FOI for destination blind via points.

Do what I did as a kid, stand in town and watch the buses drive past!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:15:17 PM

Quote from: 2206 on July 01, 2020, 07:17:16 PM
The ones I know not mentioned in the list above are:
55 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
94 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Ward End.
28 - Great Barr/Heartlands Hospital/Small Heath via Erdington.
14 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Alum Rock.
X70 - Birmingham/Chelmsley Wood via Coleshill.
60 - Birmingham/Cranes Park via Coventry Road.
X20/X21/X22 - Birmingham/Cofton Hackett/Woodcock Hill/Woodgate via University.
65 - Birmingham/Perry Common via Slade Road.
67 - Birmingham/Castle Vale via Tyburn Road.
25 - Birmingham/QE Hospital via Ladywood.

The 27 recently changed to operate to Longbridge. so the 27 in the post you have quoted is now incorrect.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Gareth on December 28, 2020, 05:16:15 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:13:38 PM
private companies

That's your answer!

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:16:52 PM

Quote from: Gareth on December 28, 2020, 05:15:00 PM
Whilst I don't fault anybody with a thirst for knowledge, no matter how geeky or niche it may be, everybody has better things to do than request and indeed answer FOI for destination blind via points.

Do what I did as a kid, stand in town and watch the buses drive past!

I would do normally but under the current circumstances I'm not going
to do that for a long time yet!

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:20:31 PM

Quote from: Gareth on December 28, 2020, 05:16:15 PM
That's your answer!

I'd have thought that FOI would apply to any comapy so if I asked a private comapy they would have tocomply. So what's so 'spechial' about private companies?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:24:06 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 28, 2020, 05:13:08 PM
Also as I have already mentioned in the past the blinds are done by an outside contractor and no-one at NX has access to the database. It is updated on request by NX, but the whole database is not available to NX

But surely whoever requests the change would know what it said before and what it says now?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on December 28, 2020, 05:24:54 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
The 27 recently changed to operate to Longbridge. so the 27 in the post you have quoted is now incorrect.

27 isn't in that list you have quoted. I can see 25, 65/67, X20/X21/X22, 60, X70, 14, 28, 94 & 55.
I wouldn't know what that displays as i've never seen it.

Quote from: ellspurs on December 28, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Does the X12 still use "Airport, then Solihull/Birmingham"? I've seen that on the blinds a number of times in Chelmsley, but not been out that much recently to see it.

It doesn't no. It used to from when it was introduced until early 2020. But it changed at some point earlier this year.
The list I posted today is up to date as far as I know.
X12 displays Birmingham/Solihull Station via Chelmsley Wood now when I see it. Most recently I saw 6874 on there displaying that only yesterday.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:26:00 PM

Do any 97 still run as 97P or not?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: ellspurs on December 28, 2020, 05:36:43 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Do any 97 still run as 97P or not?

No, they are all 97s.

And as for the other routes, I am going blindly off what I remember seeing when I've been driving around Coventry/Rugby these last couple of months. I have passed the 17/A multiple times but cannot for the life of me remember its route. Same for most of the other Coventry buses.

I've seen the 585S in Rugby as well (along with a platinum bus I didn't see the display of), but can't remember the name of the school it had as its destination.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:41:32 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 28, 2020, 05:24:54 PM
27 isn't in that list you have quoted. I can see 25, 65/67, X20/X21/X22, 60, X70, 14, 28, 94 & 55.
I wouldn't know what that displays as i've never seen it. It doesn't no. It used to from when it was introduced until early 2020. But it changed at some point earlier this year.
The list I posted is up today is up to date for East Birmingham I think as far as I know.
X12 displays Birmingham/Solihull Station via Chelmsley Wood now when I see it. Most recently I saw 6874 on there displaying that only yesterday.

Sorry @2206 I think I was looking at the other posts below the reply box when I responded to our post and I thought I was replying to the one that had the 27 and 76 mentione in it, obviously no!! 😁 another route that has changed is the 76 & WB 48.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:42:33 PM

Quote from: ellspurs on December 28, 2020, 05:36:43 PM
No, they are all 97s.

And as for the other routes, I am going blindly off what I remember seeing when I've been driving around Coventry/Rugby these last couple of months. I have passed the 17/A multiple times but cannot for the life of me remember its route. Same for most of the other Coventry buses.

I've seen the 585S in Rugby as well (along with a platinum bus I didn't see the display of), but can't remember the name of the school it had as its destination.

Thanks @ellspurs. much appreciated.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: MasterPlan on December 28, 2020, 05:47:42 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:15:17 PM
The 27 recently changed to operate to Longbridge. so the 27 in the post you have quoted is now incorrect.

The 27 says Longbridge Station.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:58:40 PM

Quote from: MasterPlan on December 28, 2020, 05:47:42 PM
The 27 says Longbridge Station.

Does it have any via Points? I assume it says Maypoke fir the other direction of travle?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Pat on December 28, 2020, 05:59:47 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 03:25:08 PM
Hi all

Would it be possible for anyone to give me all the currebt destination and via points that are on any of NX or NXC blinds please. Doesn't matter what area it covers. Either put them here or PM me please.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

Just out of interest, what do you want this information for?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:01:05 PM

Quote from: Pat on December 28, 2020, 05:59:47 PM
Just out of interest, what do you want this information for?

I am creating updated stop lists (my editions). It also a great time to create stop lists as we cant travle on the services but can google map ot West Midalnds Network map it!! 😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on December 28, 2020, 06:04:51 PM

Doesn't one of the Walsall 7's(can't remember which one?) now show 'Leighswood', instead of 'Walton Road'?

As for the Walsall to Bloxwich routes, AFAIK it should be :

19 Walsall via Blakenall / Walsall via Blakenall

29 Walsall via Blakenall / Bloxwich via Blakenall / Blakenall via Harden Road / Walsall

31 Walsall via Bloxwich / Mossley via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

32 Walsall via Bloxwich / Lower Farm via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

70 Walsall via Beechdale / Bloxwich via Beechdale

70a Beechdale / Walsall

(Tony's going to tell me I'm wrong now, isn't he?)

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:08:09 PM

Quote from: Westy on December 28, 2020, 06:04:51 PM
Doesn't one of the Walsall 7's(can't remember which one?) now show 'Leighswood', instead of 'Walton Road'?

As for the Walsall to Bloxwich routes, AFAIK it should be :

19 Walsall via Blakenall / Walsall via Blakenall

29 Walsall via Blakenall / Bloxwich via Blakenall / Blakenall via Harden Road / Walsall

31 Walsall via Bloxwich / Mossley via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

32 Walsall via Bloxwich / Lower Farm via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

70 Walsall via Beechdale / Bloxwich via Beechdale

70a Beechdale / Walsall

(Tony's going to tell me I'm wrong now, isn't he?)

Thanks @Westy do you happen to know any more walsall ones?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:09:41 PM

Quote from: Westy on December 28, 2020, 06:04:51 PM
Doesn't one of the Walsall 7's(can't remember which one?) now show 'Leighswood', instead of 'Walton Road'?

As for the Walsall to Bloxwich routes, AFAIK it should be :

19 Walsall via Blakenall / Walsall via Blakenall

29 Walsall via Blakenall / Bloxwich via Blakenall / Blakenall via Harden Road / Walsall

31 Walsall via Bloxwich / Mossley via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

32 Walsall via Bloxwich / Lower Farm via Bloxwich / Walsall Bus Garage / Bloxwich only

70 Walsall via Beechdale / Bloxwich via Beechdale

70a Beechdale / Walsall

(Tony's going to tell me I'm wrong now, isn't he?)

Thanks @Westy do you happen to know anymore of Walsall's please? No worry if you don't.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: the trainbasher on December 28, 2020, 06:09:54 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:20:31 PM
I'd have thought that FOI would apply to any comapy so if I asked a private comapy they would have tocomply. So what's so 'spechial' about private companies?

It applies to bodies who are in the public sector ownership.

Most of these can be found on the What do they know site.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:13:13 PM

Quote from: the trainbasher on December 28, 2020, 06:09:54 PM
It applies to bodies who are in the public sector ownership.

Most of these can be found on the What do they know site.

Thanks @the trainbasher could you provide a link to the page.. just PM me. Thanks again.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on December 28, 2020, 06:18:22 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:09:41 PM
Thanks @Westy do you happen to know anymore of Walsall's please? No worry if you don't.

Actually thinking about it, the 29 should be via Coalpool & Harden, & the one 19 should read Bloxwich via Blakenall.

(I've never seen a 29 Walsall via Harden & Coalpool AFAIK!)

The 9 should be Walsall via Pelsall / Bloxwich via Pelsall. (Never saw 'High Heath' mentioned.)

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: the trainbasher on December 28, 2020, 06:19:16 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:13:13 PM
Thanks @the trainbasher could you provide a link to the page.. just PM me. Thanks again.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/body/list/all?gclid=Cj0KCQiAoab_BRCxARIsANMx4S7wMszUhW0cxodhZTJ9AS6otN8iTeqIFyUoa3ob3fERQfurnzFO_9gaAhahEALw_wcB

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:23:16 PM

Quote from: Westy on December 28, 2020, 06:18:22 PM
Actually thinking about it, the 29 should be via Coalpool & Harden, & the one 19 should read Bloxwich via Blakenall.

(I've never seen a 29 Walsall via Harden & Coalpool AFAIK!)

The 9 should be Walsall via Pelsall / Bloxwich via Pelsall. (Never saw 'High Heath' mentioned.)

Is the 29 Walsall via Harden and Coalpool, Bloxwich via Coalpool & Harden.
Blakenhall via Coalpool and Walsall via Coalpool?

any others. I don't ask for much do I! 😁 😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:35:14 PM

The 49 (Solihull) is another one that's changed.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: mesub on December 28, 2020, 06:37:00 PM

23 Bartley Green (or Birmingham) via Harborne
24 Quinton Road West (or Birmingham) via Harborne

I want to say 18 Yardley Wood via Cotteridge but may be wrong.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:39:53 PM

Quote from: mesub on December 28, 2020, 06:37:00 PM
23 Bartley Green (or Birmingham) via Harborne
24 Quinton Road West (or Birmingham) via Harborne

I want to say 18 Yardley Wood via Cotteridge but may be wrong.

Thanks for this. Doesn't the 23 say Bartley Green Newman University via Harborne anymore?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Pat on December 28, 2020, 07:02:11 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:01:05 PM

I am creating updated stop lists (my editions). It also a great time to create stop lists as we cant travle on the services but can google map ot West Midalnds Network map it!! 😁

If it is to create stop lists, I can't see how this information would be of any benefit to you. Not to mention that destination blinds change frequently and there are more than one blinds for each route.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Tony on December 28, 2020, 07:06:27 PM

Quote from: Pat on December 28, 2020, 07:02:11 PM
If it is to create stop lists, I can't see how this information would be of any benefit to you. Not to mention that destination blinds change frequently and there are more than one blinds for each route.

I have advised this before, compiling a list today, could be wrong tomorrow. Adeon who do the blinds will be updating the database to improve it, then as soon as one route needs changing at a garage they supply a USB that goes in all the buses and several routes will change, not just the one with a service change.

I also do not see any benefit in knowing this.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: mesub on December 28, 2020, 07:07:44 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 06:39:53 PM
Thanks for this. Doesn't the 23 say Bartley Green Newman University via Harborne anymore?

Ah yes I forgot to mention that.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 07:23:12 PM

Quote from: Tony on December 28, 2020, 07:06:27 PM
I have advised this before, compiling a list today, could be wrong tomorrow. Adeon who do the blinds will be updating the database to improve it, then as soon as one route needs changing at a garage they supply a USB that goes in all the buses and several routes will change, not just the one with a service change.

I also do not see any benefit in knowing this.

Quote from: Pat on December 28, 2020, 07:02:11 PM
If it is to create stop lists, I can't see how this information would be of any benefit to you. Not to mention that destination blinds change frequently and there are more than one blinds for each route.

I understand that this do change but at the moment and as far as I can see until further notice NX will be operating to a destination with one via point and yes I know the list could change with in weeks but if its it for the forseable then I think I'm going to be done before it all changes again!! 😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: MasterPlan on December 28, 2020, 07:23:31 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:58:40 PM
Does it have any via Points? I assume it says Maypoke fir the other direction of travle?

I can't remember as it's been a while, but I believe the via point is still Kings Heath and the other terminus display is Maypole.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: BH2004 on December 28, 2020, 07:27:50 PM

What I don't understand is why the 'part route' got taken off the short workings destination and changed to via points because what if there is an obstruction or an untimetable short working and he buses have to have short journey and it doesn't serve there on that journey, then it will displaying wrong information

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: karl724223 on December 28, 2020, 07:38:08 PM

E and part route are still on blinds if you know how to programme them from the cab
And no I'm not wasting my time telling you how to get it up

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Justin Tyme on December 28, 2020, 09:22:09 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 05:20:31 PM
I'd have thought that FOI would apply to any company so if I asked a private company they would have to comply. So what's so 'special' about private companies?

The Freedom of Information Act applies only to the public sector because that is what the Government of the day wanted.

This very useful guide from the Information Commissioner's Office (which is the authority that deals with FOI disputes) provides details of the FOI Act, including what its aims are - https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-freedom-of-information/what-is-the-foi-act/#:~:text=The%20Freedom%20of%20Information%20Act%202000%20provides%20public%20access%20to,request%20information%20from%20public%20authorities (https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-freedom-of-information/what-is-the-foi-act/#:~:text=The%20Freedom%20of%20Information%20Act%202000%20provides%20public%20access%20to,request%20information%20from%20public%20authorities).

There is no equivalent or similar law for the private sector.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Pat on December 28, 2020, 11:34:01 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 28, 2020, 07:23:12 PM
I understand that this do change but at the moment and as far as I can see until further notice NX will be operating to a destination with one via point and yes I know the list could change with in weeks but if its it for the forseable then I think I'm going to be done before it all changes again!! 😁

But it's pointless in rushing to do it just for them to be changed and you having to do them again.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: bususer28 on December 29, 2020, 12:45:41 AM

Quote from: mesub on December 28, 2020, 06:37:00 PM

I want to say 18 Yardley Wood via Cotteridge but may be wrong.

It does.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 07:23:31 AM

Quote from: Pat on December 28, 2020, 11:34:01 PM
But it's pointless in rushing to do it just for them to be changed and you having to do them again.

I'm not rushing I've been doing this since Jan of this year and I have been keeping up with the route changes but not the destination blinds information. This is why I need the help of this forum. I know there's a chance that they could change in the next couple of months but if I've got the upto date routes I only need to do the destination indicators. So I think I'm doing ok at the moment for the documents.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 07:37:29 AM

Quote from: bususer28 on December 29, 2020, 12:45:41 AM
It does.

Thanks for the conformation for the 18. I assume that's in both directions?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Pat on December 29, 2020, 10:33:58 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 07:23:31 AM
I'm not rushing I've been doing this since Jan of this year and I have been keeping up with the route changes but not the destination blinds information. This is why I need the help of this forum. I know there's a chance that they could change in the next couple of months but if I've got the upto date routes I only need to do the destination indicators. So I think I'm doing ok at the moment for the documents.

But i'm still at a loss as to how the destination blinds help you create stop lists. Surely just having the route information is enough?

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 10:39:07 AM

Quote from: Pat on December 29, 2020, 10:33:58 AM
But i'm still at a loss as to how the destination blinds help you create stop lists. Surely just having the route information is enough?

It helps me as I include what the destination blinds say. So it helps.. I hope that makes sense? 😁 I'm not trying to start auguments and also not trying to anger peopke on here I'm just going about my day to day jobs. One of which it to create stop list dicuments for my reference which include Destination indicators/blind information.

My documents include the following

Info page
route number.
written route including the two termini.
Frequency
Day
Peak hours
Evening/Sunday
Destination indicators
Single/return journey times
Which garage operats it
Vehicle allocations
date of when I last updated it

Then secong page Stop list which include all stop codes with in city centre or along the route.

Then on routes that are together on one timetable like 11A/C how many stop it includes on the bottom of each page of stop list

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Pat on December 29, 2020, 01:32:19 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 10:39:07 AM
It helps me as I include what the destination blinds say. So it helps.. I hope that makes sense? 😁 I'm not trying to start auguments and also not trying to anger peopke on here I'm just going about my day to day jobs. One of which it to create stop list dicuments for my reference which include Destination indicators/blind information.

My documents include the following

Info page
route number.
written route including the two termini.
Frequency
Day
Peak hours
Evening/Sunday
Destination indicators
Single/return journey times
Which garage operats it
Vehicle allocations
date of when I last updated it

Then secong page Stop list which include all stop codes with in city centre or along the route.

Then on routes that are together on one timetable like 11A/C how many stop it includes on the bottom of each page of stop list

I see where you're coming from, however including destination information could be more confusing to people, as like many have said, there can be multiple blinds for the same route and that these change often.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: 2206 on December 29, 2020, 01:35:40 PM

Quote from: Pat on December 29, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
I see where you're coming from, however including destination information could be more confusing to people

I think he's saying that the documents for himself to be honest "documents for my reference".
People can find route information on NX Bus site, Traveline, etc anyway.

Title: Re: Destinatin Blinds/Indicators
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 01:40:30 PM

Quote from: Pat on December 29, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
I see where you're coming from, however including destination information could be more confusing to people, as like many have said, there can be multiple blinds for the same route and that these change often.

The documents are for a selected number of people and not in the public domain..so the people in the know will know, that it changes occationally and also I will try to keep them as upto date as posible!!😁 This is as they don't change that iften. They only seem to change when the route changes or like now in a pandemic.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: bususer28 on December 29, 2020, 04:40:01 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 07:37:29 AM
Thanks for the conformation for the 18. I assume that's in both directions?

Yup

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on December 29, 2020, 06:02:53 PM

A couple I can let you know about as they have changed since you last asked:

5 - Birmingham / Solihull - via Monkspath
6 - Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: paulb1973 on December 29, 2020, 07:39:00 PM

NXC routes with the 'via' information - just from my own observations/pictures posted on Facebook etc. Not sure if the few shorter 5 journey's to Holbrook Lane display 'Radford' and the 18A displays any via information at all? But generally speaking, cross-city services just display 'via Coventry' currently:

1 Chapelfields – (City, Earl Street) – Walsgrave "via Coventry"
3 Arena Park – (City, Burges) – Binley or University Hospital "via Coventry"
3S Blue Coat CofE School – City, Burges [am & pm]
5 Arena Park or Radford – City, Pool Meadow "via Coundon"
6 Little Heath – (City, Pool Meadow) - Tanyard Farm "via Coventry"
6A Victoria Farm or Little Heath – (City, Pool Meadow) - Tanyard Farm "via Coventry"
6S West Coventry Academy – City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
7 City, Pool Meadow - Brownshill Green or Lyons Park Amazon "via Coundon" / "via Coundon & Allesley"
8 Allesley Park – (City, Pool Meadow) - Walsgrave Triangle "via Coventry"
8A Allesley Park – (City, Pool Meadow) – Wood End "via Coventry"
8S Cardinal Wiseman School - City, Pool Meadow [am & pm]
9 Green Lane – (City, Pool Meadow) - University Hospital "via Coventry"
9A Green Lane – (City, Pool Meadow) - University Hospital "via Coventry"
9S Bishop Ullathorne School - City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
10 Bell Green – (City, Pool Meadow) – Hearsall Common or Tile Hill "via Coventry"
10A Bell Green – (City, Pool Meadow) - Westwood Business Park "via Coventry"
10B Cardinal Wiseman School – City, Pool Meadow [am & pm]
10S The Westwood Academy – City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
11 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Leamington Spa "via University of Warwick"
12X Coventry (Pool Meadow) "Direct" - University of Warwick "Direct" or Canley "via University of Warwick"
13 Whitmore Park – (City, Burges) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
13A Whitmore Park – (City, Burges) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
14 City (Pool Meadow) – Eastern Green or Tile Hill or University of Warwick "via Eastern Green"
14A City (Pool Meadow) – Eastern Green or University of Warwick "via Eastern Green"
16 City (Burges) - Keresley Village "via Radford Road"
17 University Hospital – (City, Pool Meadow) – Fenside "via Coventry"
17A University Hospital – (City, Pool Meadow) – Fenside "via Coventry"
18 City (Pool Meadow) – Tile Hill "via Canley"
18A City (Pool Meadow) – Westwood Business Park "via Hearsall Common"
20 Coventry (Trinity Street) – Old Church Road or Bedworth or Nuneaton "via Foleshill Road"
20A City (Trinity Street) – University Hospital or Bell Green "via Foleshill Road"
20B City (Trinity Street) – Longford (Novotel) or Exhall (Bayton Road) "via Foleshill Road"
20C City (Trinity Street) – University Hospital "via Foleshill Road"
21 Wood End – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
21A Wood End – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Middlemarch Business Park "via Coventry"
21S Cardinal Wiseman School – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Willenhall "via Coventry" [am & pm]
52 Coventry (Blue Coat CofE School) – Bedworth [am & pm / pm to Ash Green via Bedworth]
57 West Coventry Academy – City, Pool Meadow or Allesley Park [pm only]
58 City, Trinity Street - West Coventry Academy [am & pm / pm to Hales Street]
58A Morrisons or Allesley Park - West Coventry Academy [am only]
58A West Coventry Academy – Radford [pm only]
59 Eastern Green - West Coventry Academy [am & pm]
85 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85A Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85B Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85S Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby Schools [Rugby Harris School, Rugby High School, am & pm]
539 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth "via Baginton" [route variations]
580 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby "via Stretton & Dunchurch" [route variations]
585S Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby Schools [Rugby Ashlawn School, am & pm]
A50 Amazon Rugby Gateway – Coventry Amazon
X30 Ansty Park – Coventry – Ansty Park "via Coventry Station" / "via Ansty Road"

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 08:40:09 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on December 29, 2020, 07:39:00 PM
NXC routes with the 'via' information - just from my own observations/pictures posted on Facebook etc. Not sure if the few shorter 5 journey's to Holbrook Lane display 'Radford' and the 18A displays any via information at all? But generally speaking, cross-city services just display 'via Coventry' currently:

1 Chapelfields – (City, Earl Street) – Walsgrave "via Coventry"
3 Arena Park – (City, Burges) – Binley or University Hospital "via Coventry"
3S Blue Coat CofE School – City, Burges [am & pm]
5 Arena Park or Radford – City, Pool Meadow "via Coundon"
6 Little Heath – (City, Pool Meadow) - Tanyard Farm "via Coventry"
6A Victoria Farm or Little Heath – (City, Pool Meadow) - Tanyard Farm "via Coventry"
6S West Coventry Academy – City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
7 City, Pool Meadow - Brownshill Green or Lyons Park Amazon "via Coundon" / "via Coundon & Allesley"
8 Allesley Park – (City, Pool Meadow) - Walsgrave Triangle "via Coventry"
8A Allesley Park – (City, Pool Meadow) – Wood End "via Coventry"
8S Cardinal Wiseman School - City, Pool Meadow [am & pm]
9 Green Lane – (City, Pool Meadow) - University Hospital "via Coventry"
9A Green Lane – (City, Pool Meadow) - University Hospital "via Coventry"
9S Bishop Ullathorne School - City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
10 Bell Green – (City, Pool Meadow) – Hearsall Common or Tile Hill "via Coventry"
10A Bell Green – (City, Pool Meadow) - Westwood Business Park "via Coventry"
10B Cardinal Wiseman School – City, Pool Meadow [am & pm]
10S The Westwood Academy – City, Pool Meadow [pm only]
11 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Leamington Spa "via University of Warwick"
12X Coventry (Pool Meadow) "Direct" - University of Warwick "Direct" or Canley "via University of Warwick"
13 Whitmore Park – (City, Burges) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
13A Whitmore Park – (City, Burges) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
14 City (Pool Meadow) – Eastern Green or Tile Hill or University of Warwick "via Eastern Green"
14A City (Pool Meadow) – Eastern Green or University of Warwick "via Eastern Green"
16 City (Burges) - Keresley Village "via Radford Road"
17 University Hospital – (City, Pool Meadow) – Fenside "via Coventry"
17A University Hospital – (City, Pool Meadow) – Fenside "via Coventry"
18 City (Pool Meadow) – Tile Hill "via Canley"
18A City (Pool Meadow) – Westwood Business Park "via Hearsall Common"
20 Coventry (Trinity Street) – Old Church Road or Bedworth or Nuneaton "via Foleshill Road"
20A City (Trinity Street) – University Hospital or Bell Green "via Foleshill Road"
20B City (Trinity Street) – Longford (Novotel) or Exhall (Bayton Road) "via Foleshill Road"
20C City (Trinity Street) – University Hospital "via Foleshill Road"
21 Wood End – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Willenhall "via Coventry"
21A Wood End – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Middlemarch Business Park "via Coventry"
21S Cardinal Wiseman School – (City, Hales Street/Trinity Street) - Willenhall "via Coventry" [am & pm]
52 Coventry (Blue Coat CofE School) – Bedworth [am & pm / pm to Ash Green via Bedworth]
57 West Coventry Academy – City, Pool Meadow or Allesley Park [pm only]
58 City, Trinity Street - West Coventry Academy [am & pm / pm to Hales Street]
58A Morrisons or Allesley Park - West Coventry Academy [am only]
58A West Coventry Academy – Radford [pm only]
59 Eastern Green - West Coventry Academy [am & pm]
85 Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85A Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85B Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby
85S Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby Schools [Rugby Harris School, Rugby High School, am & pm]
539 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Kenilworth "via Baginton" [route variations]
580 Coventry (Pool Meadow) - Rugby "via Stretton & Dunchurch" [route variations]
585S Coventry (Pool Meadow) – Rugby Schools [Rugby Ashlawn School, am & pm]
A50 Amazon Rugby Gateway – Coventry Amazon
X30 Ansty Park – Coventry – Ansty Park "via Coventry Station" / "via Ansty Road"

Hi @paulb1973 Thanks for this list...for the services that terminate in the Centre I assmue they have the same via points as outbound journeys for the return journeys?

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 08:41:31 PM

Quote from: Stu on December 29, 2020, 06:02:53 PM
A couple I can let you know about as they have changed since you last asked:

5 - Birmingham / Solihull - via Monkspath
6 - Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road

Thanks for these... I have amended this now.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: paulb1973 on December 29, 2020, 09:39:58 PM

Re. the NXC list above - yes the return journeys are broadly the same. I think some of the inbound non-cross-city routes just display 'Coventry' - buses on the 12X certainly do. I don't get to see the school services too often, not sure if 'via' displays are even shown.

There are also the JLR contract services - but I'm not sure if these are running currently.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Lukeeee2018 on December 29, 2020, 09:58:32 PM

Quote from: paulb1973 on December 29, 2020, 09:39:58 PM
Re. the NXC list above - yes the return journeys are broadly the same. I think some of the inbound non-cross-city routes just display 'Coventry' - buses on the 12X certainly do. I don't get to see the school services too often, not sure if 'via' displays are even shown.

There are also the JLR contract services - but I'm not sure if these are running currently.

The school ones are correct I believe, they don't contain the 'via'. The 18A doesn't contain a 'via' either, at least going to Westwood, they don't. I haven't saw one to Coventry, but I presume they're the same.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 10:50:02 PM

Quote from: Lukeeee2018 on December 29, 2020, 09:58:32 PM
The school ones are correct I believe, they don't contain the 'via'. The 18A doesn't contain a 'via' either, at least going to Westwood, they don't. I haven't saw one to Coventry, but I presume they're the same.

To everybody who's posting on this thread I only wnat public bus routes. I don't need 'special' service e g. School or Works service... or contracted service. I don't want this to sound arsey so if it comes across like that sorry in advance.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 29, 2020, 10:51:43 PM

Quote from: Lukeeee2018 on December 29, 2020, 09:58:32 PM
The school ones are correct I believe, they don't contain the 'via'. The 18A doesn't contain a 'via' either, at least going to Westwood, they don't. I haven't saw one to Coventry, but I presume they're the same.

Sorry @Lukeeee2018 I meant to post that las message as a 'normal' post and not a response!!! 😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on December 30, 2020, 06:38:26 AM

Noticed this morning that the Walsall 9 is showing 'via Rushall' rather than 'via Pelsall ' !

Personally would've thought 'via Pelsall ' would be more appropriate!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: bususer28 on December 30, 2020, 09:00:20 PM

I'm not sure if anyone confirmed but the 27 says 'via Kings Heath'.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 12:01:48 PM

Can I please ask for any more Birmingham destination blind info?

Thank you in advance

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Dom on December 31, 2020, 01:10:43 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 12:01:48 PM
Can I please ask for any more Birmingham destination blind info?

Thank you in advance

Regards

Bus Man K2

I don't actually get the relevance of this?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 02:23:16 PM

Quote from: Dom on December 31, 2020, 01:10:43 PM
I don't actually get the relevance of this?

Hi @Dom I need all the areas destination blind information and as there are multipule routes missing from Birmingham list I need them.... I also need Dudley and Sandwel (West Brom) areas.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 03:41:49 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
I need all the areas destination blind information and as there are multipule routes missing from Birmingham list I need them.... I also need Dudley and Sandwel (West Brom) areas.

I think:
82/87 Birmingham/Dudley/Bearwood via Dudley Road.
89 Birmingham/West Bromwich via Smethwick.
61/63 Birmingham/Frankley via Bristol Road.
45/47 Birmingham/Longbridge via Pershore Road.
49 Solihull Station/Rubery Great Park via Cotteridge.
16 Birmingham/Hamstead via Hockley.
X1 Birmingham/Coventry LIMITED STOP via Airport.
And for the short journeys it looks like
X1 Airport & NEC LIMITED STOP.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ken_bladon/50694488648/in/photolist-2keGviJ-2jSf1qa-2jHvV53-2jyhreg-2jyhrcx-2jaDyRi-2iMhFHs-2izYu9h-2izhigr-2ipwB46-2iWJSJf-2hCSodw-2hYW8sf-2iNufQs-2h8jgBe-2h8t2Sg-2h8t3kf-2h8jg6u-2hfGrAv-2hcjyrb-2h8PrTg-2hTsjeb-2gSaH3W-2k1LnrX-2gnDKNK-2gkHxuV-2huyEQ7-2g3x5jR-TKygvN-2g42DZB-2g26gJ3-2j8peS6-Rsy9we-2dCmqSV-2dCmqzk-R5XNic-2eLHS7w-2eB6LAB-2cYd3aV-2fBLLRm-2bdxhDo-2cr14CV-2bNX4rV-PoTKr6-2aowF7E-2a9X2mo-2cSuESU-2bQRZGs-2bQQL8q

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 03:44:14 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
I think:
82/87 Birmingham/Dudley/Bearwood via Dudley Road.
61/63 Birmingham/Frankley via Bristol Road.
45/47 Birmingham/Longbridge via Pershore Road.
49 Solihull Station/Rubery Great Park via Cotteridge.

Hi @2206 Thanks for these. I think you right on all of these. As when I've seen them they always say that. I just wanted to check!!😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 03:45:35 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
I think:
82/87 Birmingham/Dudley/Bearwood via Dudley Road.
61/63 Birmingham/Frankley via Bristol Road.
45/47 Birmingham/Longbridge via Pershore Road.
49 Solihull Station/Rubery Great Park via Cotteridge.
16 Birmingham/Hamstead via Hockley.

What about the 16A?.If that one is still in operation?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on December 31, 2020, 05:26:18 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
Hi @Dom I need all the areas destination blind information and as there are multipule routes missing from Birmingham list I need them.... I also need Dudley and Sandwel (West Brom) areas.

What list?

Maybe you could present your information in a Google Sheet and share the link here? Then other members can see what you have missing and help to fill in the gaps, or make suggestions on what needs amending.

At the moment, we're all working 'blind' ('scuse the pun!) and all you'll have is people posting the same stuff over and over again.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 06:02:34 PM

Quote from: Stu on December 31, 2020, 05:26:18 PM
What list?

Maybe you could present your information in a Google Sheet and share the link here? Then other members can see what you have missing and help to fill in the gaps, or make suggestions on what needs amending.

At the moment, we're all working 'blind' ('scuse the pun!) and all you'll have is people posting the same stuff over and over again.

Sorry @Stu.

Here's the current list that I've got.

B'ham
X1
X2
5
6
11A/11C
X12
14
16
17
18
X20/21/22
23/24
25
27
28
45/47
49
55
61/63
65
66
67
X70
73
82/87
89
94
All of Coventry (so none missing).

Walsall
19

so anything that is not in the above lists I am missing

Solihull area.
All Solihull

Dudley area
all services

Stourbridge area
all services from Stourbrodge.

Sandwell (West Brom)
All services

Wolverhampton
All services.

Walsall area
everything except 19.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 06:53:22 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
Sorry @Stu.

Here's the current list that I've got.

B'ham
X1
X2
5
6
11A/11C
X12
14
16
17
18
X20/21/22
23/24
25
27
28
45/47
49
55
61/63
65
66
67
X70
73
82/87
89
94

You were also given 2/3, 4/4A, 50 & 8A/8C a few months ago I think see start of the thread. I think @Stu confirmed that these hadn't changed since the previous post. As well as 60.

Quote from: BH2004 on December 28, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
What I don't understand is why the 'part route' got taken off the short workings destination and changed to via points

11's still use 11E & Part Route in the evening. I just remembered after seeing 6147 tonight.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: BH2004 on December 31, 2020, 07:03:31 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
Sorry @Stu.

Wolverhampton
All services.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Ones I know

Wolverhampton

1 Tettenhall Wood - Dudley (via Wolverhampton)
2 Bushbury Hill - Warstones (via Wolverhampton)
3 Fordhouses - Castlecroft (via Wolverhampton)
4 Wolverhampton- i54 (via Pendeford)
5 Wolverhampton- Codsall (via Bilbrook) i think
6 Wolverhampton - Wobaston (via Aldersley)
6A Wolverhampton - Wobaston (via Aldersley)
8 Wolverhampton- Wollaston Farm (via Dudley & Stourbridge)
11 Wolverhampton- Underhill via Fallings Park
15 Wolverhampton- Merry Hill via Wombourne
15A Wolverhampton- Merry Hill via Kingswinford
16 Wolverhampton- Stourbridge via Kingswinford
529 Wolverhampton- Walsall via Willenhall
X8 Wolverhampton- Birmingham Limited Stop via Dudley & Blackheath
X529 Wolverhampton- Walsall Limited Stop

Stourbridge

9 Stourbridge- Birmingham via Halesowen
17 Dudley- Stourbridge via Gornal Wood
17A Dudley - Stourbridge via Kingswinford
17E Dudley - Kingswinford via Gornal Wood
126 Dudley- Birmingham via Bearwood
X10 Gornal Wood/ Merry Hill - Birmingham Limited Stop via Halesowen

Birmingham

X3 Lichfield - Birmingham via Erdington & Sutton
X4 Minworth - Birmingham via Erdington & Sutton

Solihull

4/4A Birmingham- Solihull via Acocks Green
X12 Birmingham - Solihull via Chemsley Wood

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 07:05:56 PM

Quote from: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 06:53:22 PM
You were also given 2/3, 4/4A, 50 & 8A/8C a few months ago I think see start of the thread. I think @Stu confirmed that these hadn't changed since the previous post. As well as 60.11's still use 11E & Part Route in the evening. I just remembered after seeing 6147 tonight.

Quote from: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

(I can't wait to be able to get out a bit more again!)

But personally I can't see the point of what you are trying to achieve to be honest.

Sorry @Stu & @2206 yes I was given the 2, 3, 4, 4A and some others on the first page of the tread. But obviously some of them have changed like the 76, 27 obviously the 27 has already been mentioned.. so you can discount that one.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 07:08:08 PM

Quote from: BH2004 on December 31, 2020, 07:03:31 PM
Ones I know

Wolverhampton

1 Tettenhall Wood - Dudley (via Wolverhampton)
2 Bushbury Hill - Warstones (via Wolverhampton)
3 Fordhouses - Castlecroft (via Wolverhampton)
4 Wolverhampton- i54 (via Pendeford)
5 Wolverhampton- Codsall (via Bilbrook) i think
6 Wolverhampton - Wobaston (via Aldersley)
6A Wolverhampton - Wobaston (via Aldersley)
8 Wolverhampton- Wollaston Farm (via Dudley & Stourbridge)
11 Wolverhampton- Underhill via Fallings Park
15 Wolverhampton- Merry Hill via Wombourne
15A Wolverhampton- Merry Hill via Kingswinford
16 Wolverhampton- Stourbridge via Kingswinford
529 Wolverhampton- Walsall via Willenhall
X8 Wolverhampton- Birmingham Limited Stop via Dudley & Blackheath
X529 Wolverhampton- Walsall Limited Stop

Stourbridge

9 Stourbridge- Birmingham via Halesowen
17 Dudley- Stourbridge via Gornal Wood
17A Dudley - Stourbridge via Kingswinford
17E Dudley - Kingswinford via Gornal Wood
126 Dudley- Birmingham via Bearwood
X10 Gornal Wood/ Merry Hill - Birmingham Limited Stop via Halesowen

Birmingham

X3 Lichfield - Birmingham via Erdington & Sutton
X4 Minworth - Birmingham via Erdington & Sutton

Solihull

4/4A Birmingham- Solihull via Acocks Green
X12 Birmingham - Solihull via Chemsley Wood

Thanks @BH2004 .

this is exactly waht I need, much appreciated..

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on December 31, 2020, 07:09:23 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 31, 2020, 07:05:56 PM
Sorry @Stu & @2206 yes I was given the 2, 3, 4, 4A and some others on the first page of the tread. But obviously some of them have changed like the 76, 27 obviously the 27 has already been mentioned.. so you can discount that one.

Regards

Bus Man K2

76 is Northfield/Solihull Station via QE Hospital.
60 is still Birmingham/Cranes Park via Coventry Road.

One i'm not sure on is the 58. I think via point is via Olton. Solihull and Kingshurst would be used on full route journeys. Only thing I can't remember is what they display on short journeys to Swan is it "South Yardley" or "Yardley Swan"?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 09:54:10 AM

Quote from: Stu on July 01, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
The only ones I can help you with at present:

2 (YW) Birmingham / Maypole - via Stoney Lane
3 (YW) Birmingham / Yardley Wood - via Stoney Lane
4 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull Station - via Acocks Green
4A (AG) Birmingham / Gospel Oak - via Acocks Green
5 (AG) Birmingham / Solihull - via Shirley
6 (YW) Birmingham / Solihull - via Stratford Road (some still showing Shirley)
8A (BY) Inner Circle - Anti-Clockwise
8C (BY) Inner Circle - Clockwise
11A (AG) Outer Circle - Anti-clockwise
11C (AG) Outer Circle - Clockwise
27 (YW) Maypole / Harborne - via Kings Heath
50 (YW) Birmingham / Druids Heath - via Moseley & Kings Heath
76 (YW) Solihull Station / QE Hospital - via Kings Heath

These are all the services I've either seen or travelled on in the last three months

(I can't wait to be able to get out a bit more again!)

But personally I can't see the point of what you are trying to achieve to be honest.

Hi @Stu do you know whether the EVE & Sun Jrnys on the 4A have a different blid on them to the Gosple Oak via Acocks Green one? Only as these jrnys extend to terminate/start at Robin Hood Island.

Thanks

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2021, 09:58:22 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 09:54:10 AM
Hi @Stu do you know whether the EVE & Sun Jrnys on the 4A have a different blid on them to the Gosple Oak via Acocks Green one? Only as these jrnys extend to terminate/start at Robin Hood Island.

The evening 4A journeys show destination as 'Robin Hood via Acocks Green'

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 09:59:37 AM

Quote from: Stu on January 01, 2021, 09:58:22 AM
The evening 4A journeys show destination as 'Robin Hood via Acocks Green'

Thanks @Stu.

What about the Eve and Sun jrnys on the 2?

Also what about the Sun Jrnys on the 60 that terminate at Yardley?

Plus does the 50 still say via Kings Heath & Maypole or has it been changed to show just one via point. No worryif you don't know

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: bususer28 on January 01, 2021, 11:41:32 AM

35 Birmingham/Hawkesley via Kings Heath

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2021, 12:00:30 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 09:59:37 AM
Thanks @Stu.

What about the Eve and Sun jrnys on the 2?

Also what about the Sun Jrnys on the 60 that terminate at Yardley?

Plus does the 50 still say via Kings Heath & Maypole or has it been changed to show just one via point. No worryif you don't know

The evening short journeys show as '2 Warstock'.

No idea about the 50 or 60 now.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 12:20:14 PM

Quote from: Stu on January 01, 2021, 12:00:30 PM
The evening short journeys show as '2 Warstock'.

No idea about the 50 or 60 now.

Thanks for this

Ok on the 50 and 60... With the 2 does it have a via point or does it just say '2 Warstock'?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2021, 12:27:37 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 12:20:14 PM
With the 2 does it have a via point or does it just say '2 Warstock'?

Both the 2 and 3 show 'via Stoney Lane'.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 12:42:20 PM

Quote from: Stu on January 01, 2021, 12:27:37 PM
Both the 2 and 3 show 'via Stoney Lane'.

Hi @Stu I'm talking about the Eve/Sun jrnys on the 2. I know the daytime service shows Via Stoney Lane but does the Eve/Sun one? If they still show via Stoney Lane on Eve & Sun then Ok.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 01:08:07 PM

Updated list now.

Missing

B'ham
1 & 1A (inc eve and Sun jrnys)
X5
7
10 & 10S
12 & 12A
13 & 13A
X14 & X15
16A
31
32
38
45 & 47
51
X51
52
54 (Perry Barr)
58
60 (alternate Sun jrnys)
71
72 & 72A
74
80A
96
101
907 & 907A
997 (Short jrnys to Pheasey Deers Leep)

Walsall
4, 4H & 4M
6, 7 & 7A (inc 7 eve and sun)
8, 8A
10 & 10A
11 & 11A
29
34, 37 (inc Eve & Sun jrnys) & 39
35 (Aldridge)
36
41
69
77
934, 935, 997 (full jrnys from Birmingham)
936,937 (inc peak extention to Boney Hay) & 937A

Stourbridge
6
7
10A & 10C
28 (both jrnys)
57

Sandwell
3 & 3A
5 (to Sutton)
22 (Oldbury)
40
42, 43 & 43A
44
45
46
47
48 & 48A
49
54 & 54A (Worlds End)

Dudley
2 & 2A
5 & 5A
14 & 14A
18 & 19
24

Wolverhampton
10, 10A & 10B

Thanks in advance

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2021, 01:26:32 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 12:42:20 PM
Hi @Stu I'm talking about the Eve/Sun jrnys on the 2. I know the daytime service shows Via Stoney Lane but does the Eve/Sun one? If they still show via Stoney Lane on Eve & Sun then Ok.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Like I said, both the 2 and 3 show 'via Stoney Lane' at all times.

There is nothing special about Sunday journeys on the 2 they run the same as any other day, with evening shorts to Warstock.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: DJ on January 01, 2021, 05:31:42 PM

@Bus Man K2 Here's the ones that I know off the top of my head, hope it helps. There are some slight differences for the Diamond blinds on the joint routes (40,42,43,43A) though. If you want to do a list of all the Diamond ones, I'd be happy to help.

B'ham
74 - via West Bromwich
997 (Short jrnys to Pheasey Deers Leep) - 'DEERS LEEP' on bottom line

Walsall
4, 4H & 4M - via West Bromwich
11 & 11A - via Wednesbury & Dudley (towards Merry Hill), via Dudley & Wednesbury (towards Walsall), via Wednesbury (for Dudley terminators).
34, 37 (inc Eve & Sun jrnys) & 39 - via Darlaston
36 - via Manor Hospital
41 - via New Invention
69 - via New Invention (69 is a WN route though)
77 - via Streetly
934, 935 - via Kingstanding
997 - via Old Oscott, via Pheasey

Stourbridge
6 - via Russells Hall
7 - via Merry Hill & Stourbridge

Sandwell
5 (to Sutton) - via New Oscott & Great Barr
40 - via Stone Cross
42 - via Great Bridge & Tipton, via Great Bridge (for Tipton terminators)
43 & 43A - via Great Bridge
44 - via Harvills Hawthorn
45 - via Yew Tree
46 - via Hamstead
47 - via Hateley Heath

Dudley
2 & 2A - via Russells Hall
5 & 5A - via Russells Hall
14 & 14A - via Blackheath
18 - via Cradley Heath
19 - via Halesowen
24 - via Blackheath

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 07:05:06 PM

Quote from: DJ on January 01, 2021, 05:31:42 PM
@Bus Man K2 Here's the ones that I know off the top of my head, hope it helps. There are some slight differences for the Diamond blinds on the joint routes (40,42,43,43A) though. If you want to do a list of all the Diamond ones, I'd be happy to help.

B'ham
74 - via West Bromwich
997 (Short jrnys to Pheasey Deers Leep) - 'DEERS LEEP' on bottom line

Walsall
4, 4H & 4M - via West Bromwich
11 & 11A - via Wednesbury & Dudley (towards Merry Hill), via Dudley & Wednesbury (towards Walsall), via Wednesbury (for Dudley terminators).
34, 37 (inc Eve & Sun jrnys) & 39 - via Darlaston
36 - via Manor Hospital
41 - via New Invention
69 - via New Invention (69 is a WN route though)
77 - via Streetly
934, 935 - via Kingstanding
997 - via Old Oscott, via Pheasey

Stourbridge
6 - via Russells Hall
7 - via Merry Hill & Stourbridge

Sandwell
5 (to Sutton) - via New Oscott & Great Barr
40 - via Stone Cross
42 - via Great Bridge & Tipton, via Great Bridge (for Tipton terminators)
43 & 43A - via Great Bridge
44 - via Harvills Hawthorn
45 - via Yew Tree
46 - via Hamstead
47 - via Hateley Heath

Dudley
2 & 2A - via Russells Hall
5 & 5A - via Russells Hall
14 & 14A - via Blackheath
18 - via Cradley Heath
19 - via Halesowen
24 - via Blackheath

Hi @DJ Thanks for all of these.

I assume the 11 & 11A is Dudley via Wedneabury
With the extentiones to Merry Hill saying via Wednesbury & Dudley.

with the 997 is it Old Oscott & Pheasey or is it one in one direction and the other in the other direction?

39 I assume the 39 says Willenhall ( for Daytime) & Lodge Farm for the 4 journeys that terminate there?

I don't actually need Diamonds blinds as I am only consentrating on the NX operations and nothing else. But thank you for the offer of the hlep if I was to do the Diamond bus blinds as well!! 😁

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on January 01, 2021, 10:31:30 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 07:05:06 PM
Hi @DJ Thanks for all of these.

I assume the 11 & 11A is Dudley via Wedneabury
With the extentiones to Merry Hill saying via Wednesbury & Dudley.

with the 997 is it Old Oscott & Pheasey or is it one in one direction and the other in the other direction?

39 I assume the 39 says Willenhall ( for Daytime) & Lodge Farm for the 4 journeys that terminate there?

I don't actually need Diamonds blinds as I am only consentrating on the NX operations and nothing else. But thank you for the offer of the hlep if I was to do the Diamond bus blinds as well!! 😁

Regards

Bus Man K2

37, you mean.

39 goes to Bilston & Stowlawn.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 02, 2021, 08:58:53 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 01, 2021, 07:05:06 PM
Hi @DJ Thanks for all of these.

I assume the 11 & 11A is Dudley via Wedneabury
With the extentiones to Merry Hill saying via Wednesbury & Dudley.

with the 997 is it Old Oscott & Pheasey or is it one in one direction and the other in the other direction?

39 I assume the 39 says Willenhall ( for Daytime) & Lodge Farm for the 4 journeys that terminate there?

I don't actually need Diamonds blinds as I am only consentrating on the NX operations and nothing else. But thank you for the offer of the hlep if I was to do the Diamond bus blinds as well!! 😁

Regards

Bus Man K2

Quote from: Westy on January 01, 2021, 10:31:30 PM
37, you mean.

39 goes to Bilston & Stowlawn.

Yep @Westy I did mean the 37 and not 39. My typo!!! 😁 Sorry.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: WMT3000 on January 02, 2021, 12:58:14 PM

AG32 is Shirley/Lyndon via Acocks Green.
The last journey of the day is a short working and just shows Acocks Green with no via points.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 03, 2021, 05:51:40 PM

Any more for Birmingham?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 03, 2021, 05:52:40 PM

Quote from: WMT3000 on January 02, 2021, 12:58:14 PM
AG32 is Shirley/Lyndon via Acocks Green.
The last journey of the day is a short working and just shows Acocks Green with no via points.

Thanks for that one @WMT3000.. 😁

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:24:38 PM

Does anyone know if any areas in the West Midlands still have stops that have code letters on the flag? I know that Coventry do, Wolverhampton do, Birmingham do, do any other areas still have codes for stop?

Also does the 66 alternat daytime/evening journey on the 66 still operate as 66E?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on January 06, 2021, 12:39:02 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
Also dose the 66 alternat daytime/evening journey on the 66 still operate as 66E?

66 to Star City operates as 66. (With no via point).
Likewise 28 to Old Oscott also operates as 28 Old Oscott via Erdington. With no E.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:44:38 PM

Quote from: 2206 on January 06, 2021, 12:39:02 PM
66 to Star City operates as 66.

Hi @2206 Thanks for this. I am sure I've seen the bus blind saying 66E to Start City. What about the Evening service does that also operate as 66 or 66E? I know that NX may have regestered it as 66 but they didn't operate it as 66 when I last saw it. Qhich I know was early March 2020. or there abouts.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: 2206 on January 06, 2021, 12:48:52 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:44:38 PM
Hi @2206 Thanks for this. I am sure I've seen the bus blind saying 66E to Start City. What about the Evening service does that also operate as 66 or 66E? I know that NX may have regestered it as 66 but they didn't operate it as 66 when I last saw it. Qhich I know was early March 2020. or there abouts.

Destination displays have changed in the last year.
When i've seen it in recent months on Priory Queensway, while going to 55/94 stop it has said 66 Star City.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:50:54 PM

Quote from: 2206 on January 06, 2021, 12:48:52 PM
Destination displays have changed in the last year.
When i've seen it in recent months on Priory Queensway, while going to 55/94 stop it has said 66 Star City.

Hi @2206 Thanks for the clarification on this.. 😁

What about the evening/Sunday journeys (terminating at Erdington)?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Lukeee on January 06, 2021, 06:47:51 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 12:50:54 PM

Hi @2206 Thanks for the clarification on this.. 😁

What about the evening/Sunday journeys (terminating at Erdington)?

These display 66 and not 66E

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on January 06, 2021, 06:55:05 PM

On a lot of routes there are options for the drivers to use different options. If they put 66 in then select the short working destination it may come up with something different to if the driver puts 66E in, another reason this excercise is a bit pointless. As @karl724223 has said he can get variations on Pensnett routes

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 07:49:11 PM

Quote from: karl724223 on December 28, 2020, 07:38:08 PM
E and part route are still on blinds if you know how to programme them from the cab
And no I'm not wasting my time telling you how to get it up

I don't care about how you get things up on the blinds. I just want to know the destination and via points.

Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2021, 06:55:05 PM
On a lot of routes there are options for the drivers to use different options. If they put 66 in then select the short working destination it may come up with something different to if the driver puts 66E in, another reason this excercise is a bit pointless. As @karl724223 has said he can get variations on Pensnett routes

I understand that, howevere there should be just one option on this short of route. As technically speaking it's not a full journey. So it should really show E.

and to answer your other question on what the bennifit is to know this. I only need to know it as I'm creating stop lists with destination indicators on the information page. Yes I know they can change over time. However when I actually travel on the bus I choose the one out of the ones I see.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on January 06, 2021, 07:55:13 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 07:49:11 PM
. However when I actually travel on the bus I choose the one out of the ones I see.

But they are not the ones you see, as you are asking everyone else

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 06, 2021, 08:00:14 PM

Quote from: Tony on January 06, 2021, 07:55:13 PM
But they are not the ones you see, as you are asking everyone else

I know I am at the moment. It is only under the current circumstances, if I was allowed to travel the above statement isn't needed and my previous one would be correct.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on January 08, 2021, 07:50:42 PM

Update on Walsall 29.

The short journeys just show '29 Blakenall ' no via point.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 08, 2021, 08:15:12 PM

Quote from: Westy on January 08, 2021, 07:50:42 PM
Update on Walsall 29.

The short journeys just show '29 Blakenall ' no via point.

Thanks @Westy I do appreciate it.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 10, 2021, 02:47:00 PM

Hi all any other Walsall, Dudley/Stourbridge, Solihill or B'ham destination blind information please?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Bus Man K2

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on January 11, 2021, 04:23:54 PM

7 Leighswood via Aldridge.

8a Pelsall via Rushall.

10 Brownhills West via Rushall.

70a Beechdale via Reedswood.

29 Blakenall via Harden.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 11, 2021, 04:45:21 PM

Quote from: Westy on January 11, 2021, 04:23:54 PM
7 Leighswood via Aldridge.

8a Pelsall via Rushall.

10 Brownhills West via Rushall.

70a Beechdale via Reedswood.

29 Blakenall via Harden.

Thanks @Westy.

Do you happen to know wat the 7A and eve 7's say?

Any others would be much appreciated as are these! 😁

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on January 11, 2021, 05:38:22 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 11, 2021, 04:45:21 PM
Thanks @Westy.

Do you happen to know wat the 7A and eve 7's say?

Any others would be much appreciated as are these! 😁

Only spotted these by chance today!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 10:18:18 AM

Anybody know what the 10, 10A & 10B (Wolverhampton) says for the via points?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: BH2004 on January 12, 2021, 10:31:33 AM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 10:18:18 AM
Anybody know what the 10, 10A & 10B (Wolverhampton) says for the via points?

I think
10 via Compton & Tettenhall
10A/10B via Compton

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on January 12, 2021, 10:42:26 AM

Quote from: BH2004 on January 12, 2021, 10:31:33 AM
I think
10 via Compton & Tettenhall
10A/10B via Compton

No.

10 - Perton via Compton
10A - Pattingham via Perton
10B - Codsall via Perton

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 10:52:55 AM

Quote from: Pat on January 12, 2021, 10:42:26 AM
No.

10 - Perton via Compton
10A - Pattingham via Perton
10B - Codsall via Perton

Thanks @Pat &

Quote from: BH2004 on January 12, 2021, 10:31:33 AM
I think
10 via Compton & Tettenhall
10A/10B via Compton

Thanks @BH2004.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Westy on January 12, 2021, 10:58:32 AM

I suppose there's an outside chance not all vehicles are updated at the same time?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 11:01:38 AM

I know this may sound a bit silly, but would it be pssible to now put all the current lists
that are currently over the previous 11/12 pages on to one page and delete all the other pages and start fresh with one page?

I only ask as I'm finding it harder to look over all 11/12 pages then copy the info into the documents. as I have separate files for certain documents.

E.g.

Stourbridge has the following routes in the file.

6
7
8
9
10A/10C
16
17/17A
28
57

I also know that the 8 and 16 should be shown in Wolverhampton file and the 9 should be shown in Birmingham's
but as I did the route from Stourbridge first it makes sense to just put them in one file.

Thank you

Kind regards

Bus Man K2

P. S. it also would help as I would be able to see which routes I'm still mising (if any).

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Kevin on January 12, 2021, 12:00:52 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 11:01:38 AM
I know this may sound a bit silly, but would it be pssible to now put all the current lists
that are currently over the previous 11/12 pages on to one page and delete all the other pages and start fresh with one page?

I only ask as I'm finding it harder to look over all 11/12 pages then copy the info into the documents. as I have separate files for certain documents...

Not being funny, but it's you that asked for all this detail. You want the forum admin to go through the entire thread and weed out all the individual bits just for you to then take it for your own personal information?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 12:24:43 PM

Quote from: Kevin on January 12, 2021, 12:00:52 PM
Not being funny, but it's you that asked for all this detail. You want the forum admin to go through the entire thread and weed out all the individual bits just for you to then take it for your own personal information?

No I was going to support to everyone who has alread posted that info to do it again but then I would reply untill all the info was posed. Then the admin could just delete all the pages up to the one that starts to list the first destination blind info.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on January 12, 2021, 12:31:51 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 12:24:43 PM
No I was going to support to everyone who has alread posted that info to do it again but then I would reply untill all the info was posed. Then the admin could just delete all the pages up to the one that starts to list the first destination blind info.

So not only do you want admin to weed through the past 12 pages, but you want everyone to post again? As Kevin said, you asked for this information, so it is up to you to read through it and find what you want.

This thread is getting a bit silly and annoying now, and doesn't really have any point, as pointed out by many members. Could admin possibly lock this thread?

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 12:50:02 PM

Quote from: Pat on January 12, 2021, 12:31:51 PM
So not only do you want admin to weed through the past 12 pages, but you want everyone to post again? As Kevin said, you asked for this information, so it is up to you to read through it and find what you want.

This thread is getting a bit silly and annoying now, and doesn't really have any point, as pointed out by many members. Could admin possibly lock this thread?

I understand it sound a bit silly.This thread is importand and although most people say to probably lok it. I was just saying to everyone who has already posted to post onece more and then admin could just delete the previous 11/12 pages if they wanted. I know it's up to me to shift through the information, however it not helped with all the rouge posts... I know some of them are probably of my own doing l.
So if that 11 pages could be deleted and for the people how have posed could just post onec with all there info then that would be great. I know I'm asking a lot of you all but it is all in a good nature and is helpful to me.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on January 12, 2021, 01:01:19 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 12:50:02 PM
I understand it sound a bit silly.This thread is importand and although most people say to probably lok it. I was just saying to everyone who has already posted to post onece more and then admin could just delete the previous 11/12 pages if they wanted. I know it's up to me to shift through the information, however it not helped with all the rouge posts... I know some of them are probably of my own doing l.
So if that 11 pages could be deleted and for the people how have posed could just post onec with all there info then that would be great. I know I'm asking a lot of you all but it is all in a good nature and is helpful to me.

As you stated in an earlier post, this is for your personal use and the guide you are producing is not being distributed to the public. Therefore, I can't see how this thread and the information in it is so important to warrant precious time of admin staff being spent wading their way through the posts because you can't be bothered to do it yourself. Also, why should members who have already given you the information you requested do so again?

I'm sorry, but myself and i'm sure many other members are fed up of being asked the same things over and over again. We've tried to tell you that what you are doing is pointless, as destination blinds change regularly, but as always, you won't listen.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 01:09:53 PM

Quote from: Pat on January 12, 2021, 01:01:19 PM
As you stated in an earlier post, this is for your personal use and the guide you are producing is not being distributed to the public. Therefore, I can't see how this thread and the information in it is so important to warrant precious time of admin staff being spent wading their way through the posts because you can't be bothered to do it yourself. Also, why should members who have already given you the information you requested do so again?

I'm sorry, but myself and i'm sure many other members are fed up of being asked the same things over and over again. We've tried to tell you that what you are doing is pointless, as destination blinds change regularly, but as always, you won't listen.

Again as I have stated its great that everybody on here does help. I don't mind shifting through the posts, howevere as I have said again that the info is all jumbeld up so if it could be done in an area order then It would be more hwlpful so I can then list anything that d still missing. Now I know that may sound a little idol but if it helps me even more then I would be happy to help someone who needs that info.

Yes I know they can change over time but at the moment all destination blinds seem to be carrying one trend and thet being destination and one via point.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Pat on January 12, 2021, 01:12:59 PM

Quote from: Bus Man K2 on January 12, 2021, 01:09:53 PM
I don't mind shifting through the posts

Then why don't you? We've done our bit in providing you with the information, it's now up to you to collate it and present in a way you like.

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Tony on January 12, 2021, 01:15:30 PM

It's not just me fed up with this then!

Title: Re: Document or information on all destination and via points on bus blinds
Post by: Stu on January 12, 2021, 07:12:20 PM

@Bus Man K2 I gave you a solution earlier in this thread which you chose to ignore.

Quote from: Stu on December 31, 2020, 05:26:18 PM
Maybe you could present your information in a Google Sheet and share the link here? Then other members can see what you have missing and help to fill in the gaps, or make suggestions on what needs amending.

At the moment, we're all working 'blind' ('scuse the pun!) and all you'll have is people posting the same stuff over and over again.

Tony has quite rightly locked this topic as it is going round in circles.

While I am of the opinion that this is all a waste of our time, there are some members willing to help with what is obviously just a 'pet project' for your own interest, because the information is quite frankly useless really to anyone else.

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