The proposed updated livery shown in the photoshop image posted by Tony today gets a thumbs up from me. To be honest I would have gone along with anything to get rid of the white which was ok on day one out of the paint shop but rapidly turned off white/grey after a few days on the urban roads of the West Mids. Particularly like the way the lining out matches the lining out of the platinum livery. Can't wait to see the first E400 MMC's delivered in the new liveries. Well done NX?
And me!
Where is this, my internet is on go slow so being lazy?
http://www.nationalexpressgroup.com/media/1976/bus-investment.jpg
Quote from: Andrew on November 28, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
http://www.nationalexpressgroup.com/media/1976/bus-investment.jpg
Does this indicate new buses for the 126?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 28, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Andrew on November 28, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
http://www.nationalexpressgroup.com/media/1976/bus-investment.jpg
Does this indicate new buses for the 126?
i did hear a rumour about the 126 going Platinum but maybe its just having an upgrade with standard seated E400 MMC's?
Looks promising.
It looks ok but in my opinion I think the livery shouldn't be so red, it's becoming London now.
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 28, 2014, 07:26:43 PM
It looks ok but in my opinion I think the livery shouldn't be so red, it's becoming London now.
I agree, although in hindsight, it's better than what we have now. I think it adds a sense of character to these buses... Just to be clear, the red one is the generic livery - which will (probably) get applied to the entire fleet...
Can I ask a question?
- Are Platinum services changing the 900/957 into 'X' prefix services? (i.e. the 957 changing into the X1, as suggested by the 4731 livery)
Excellent redesign - look forward to seeing it in person. Reminds me of the Lothian livery as well actually. I am going to assume that the current fleet will receive this livery - at least the newer vehicles (aka, 2009/2010 Scanias?). The livery would look great on a Scania!
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 28, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Excellent redesign - look forward to seeing it in person. Reminds me of the Lothian livery as well actually. I am going to assume that the current fleet will receive this livery - at least the newer vehicles (aka, 2009/2010 Scanias?). The livery would look great on a Scania!
And an ALX400, excuse my addiction with talking about ALX400s.
Not a fan! Too red and London esque despite the frilly bits and the Platinum is dark and dull and not going to stand out, needs some blue for goodness sake
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 28, 2014, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 28, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Excellent redesign - look forward to seeing it in person. Reminds me of the Lothian livery as well actually. I am going to assume that the current fleet will receive this livery - at least the newer vehicles (aka, 2009/2010 Scanias?). The livery would look great on a Scania!
And an ALX400, excuse my addiction with talking about ALX400s.
It's a decent enough livery (although 2 shades of blue would have been better) but as far as the ALX400 body is concerned you can't polish a turd. The livery will really suit body styles with a few curves though, like the Gemini.
Just a thought...
Maybe the darker shades of red (top saloon and below the lower saloon windows) should be in a dark blue... And the middle lighter shade of red should be in silver, all seperated by a red pin stripe. Then where the beige swoop is from the front wheel should be red,
Whilst I'm describing a 21st century TWM livery, bring back the Travel name! :P
I'll say what I said in another thread, regarding the fleet number:
"One thing I've just noticed is the 'fake' fleet number. Or is it? Would this be an indication that the E400 MMCs will begin with the lower 1000s? Obviously, it could go to the 5000s, but it could be a clue, seeing as the current E400s have dominated the 4700-4900s...
Of course I realise that if it would ever begin in the lower 1000's, it would ruin NXs size sequence fleet. (i.e. 700s - E200 SWB; 800s - E200 LWB; etc...)"
However, my *clearer* opinions are that I actually like this livery. I think the two-tone idea is nice, however, as many of you have said, the livery reminds you that of a Lothian Buses livery, or TfL's Buses... I like the swoops & the maroon/red colourscheme better than the current livery. It gives the buses a sense of style & character, in my opinion. I think I will grow to adore these buses very much.
P.S. I don't understand why everybody is hating the Platinum livery, I mean, I guess the name doesn't suit the livery (should've been Premium, or Signature, not to copy Rotala) - However, I do like the, what I would describe as, elegance of the contrasting darker colours. (Red on Grey on Black) ;)
EDIT: With the prototype Platinum E400MMC, the displays are white. Does this mean full colour LEDs for Platinum Buses?
Quote from: Mike K on November 28, 2014, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 28, 2014, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 28, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Excellent redesign - look forward to seeing it in person. Reminds me of the Lothian livery as well actually. I am going to assume that the current fleet will receive this livery - at least the newer vehicles (aka, 2009/2010 Scanias?). The livery would look great on a Scania!
And an ALX400, excuse my addiction with talking about ALX400s.
It's a decent enough livery (although 2 shades of blue would have been better) but as far as the ALX400 body is concerned you can't polish a turd. The livery will really suit body styles with a few curves though, like the Gemini.
I dare say two shades of blue will appear for NXC ;)
How about some photo shopping the below so
we can see what it would look like
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 28, 2014, 11:35:42 PM
Just a thought...
Maybe the darker shades of red (top saloon and below the lower saloon windows) should be in a dark blue... And the middle lighter shade of red should be in silver, all seperated by a red pin stripe. Then where the beige swoop is from the front wheel should be red,
Whilst I'm describing a 21st century TWM livery, bring back the Travel name! :P
Quote from: Mike K on November 28, 2014, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on November 28, 2014, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 28, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Excellent redesign - look forward to seeing it in person. Reminds me of the Lothian livery as well actually. I am going to assume that the current fleet will receive this livery - at least the newer vehicles (aka, 2009/2010 Scanias?). The livery would look great on a Scania!
And an ALX400, excuse my addiction with talking about ALX400s.
It's a decent enough livery (although 2 shades of blue would have been better) but as far as the ALX400 body is concerned you can't polish a turd. The livery will really suit body styles with a few curves though, like the Gemini.
On the ALX400 it would look alot better, the body is alot better then the rubbish enviro 400 so it would suit it better. National Express would probably take the livery off the Enviro 400 as soon as it goes on, you can't polish some cheap curvy turd. It would look nice on older buses, the ALX400 keeps that old design on and on, the Gemini is acceptable even though there is a little curve at the front. We will have to wait though!
Would love to see this livery portrayed on some Model Buses... (despite the lack of announcements from CMNLs and their models. Possibly Corgi and their Volvo Models)
Also, another thought. If the Hybrid Buses were to go in for repaint, would it be the same livery, but green? What I'm thinking of is sort of a Leprechaun Machine, lol. Although, I think the new livery would look splendid, given the situation where the entire NX fleet, (possibly including Dundee) would be uniform.
The platinum livery has looking at it a similar shade to brookes bus.
Quote from: Solo1 on November 29, 2014, 06:44:57 AM
How about some photo shopping the below so
we can see what it would look like Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 28, 2014, 11:35:42 PM
Just a thought...
Maybe the darker shades of red (top saloon and below the lower saloon windows) should be in a dark blue... And the middle lighter shade of red should be in silver, all seperated by a red pin stripe. Then where the beige swoop is from the front wheel should be red,
Whilst I'm describing a 21st century TWM livery, bring back the Travel name! :P
I second the above notion.
~ I could do a paper bus one but that's as far as my skills go haha
Slightly off subject but was wondering whether the NX Platinum vehicles will have full width rear displays similar to Arriva's Sapphire? Possibly also the 'standard' vehicles.
I now have permission to put these two photographs of 4718 on the main site to show what the new livery will look like. I must point out that this is not the exact livery.
The middle red will be a darker shade (The shade on this is standard NXWM red) and there will be an additional yellow strip separating the top two reds. Although the strips are yellow the strips used are slightly transparent which means they look gold when applied.
4731 was actually painted in the full version of the new livery for the new vehicle order but never emerged from the paintshop, so I do not have photos of that one.
The photos of 4718 are here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4718.html
Both were soon repainted into standard livery and put back into service at Yardley Wood
Looks almost Stenning like...
Looks great! Will actually look even better with a darker shade of red in the middle - glad YW is going to be the first to have this ;) I assume 4718 is going to stay in this livery now. Scanias will look excellent in that style.
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 22, 2014, 07:46:08 PM
Looks great! Will actually look even better with a darker shade of red in the middle - glad YW is going to be the first to have this ;) I assume 4718 is going to stay in this livery now. Scanias will look excellent in that style.
Who hasn't read my post?
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
I now have permission to put these two photographs of 4718 on the main site to show what the new livery will look like. I must point out that this is not the exact livery.
The middle red will be a darker shade (The shade on this is standard NXWM red) and there will be an additional yellow strip separating the top two reds. Although the strips are yellow the strips used are slightly transparent which means they look gold when applied.
4731 was actually painted in the full version of the new livery for the new vehicle order but never emerged from the paintshop, so I do not have photos of that one.
The photos of 4718 are here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4718.html
Both were soon repainted into standard livery and put back into service at Yardley Wood
Wouldn't you call that a waste of money to paint a bus in a new livery just then to repaint it back in its old livery?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 22, 2014, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
I now have permission to put these two photographs of 4718 on the main site to show what the new livery will look like. I must point out that this is not the exact livery.
The middle red will be a darker shade (The shade on this is standard NXWM red) and there will be an additional yellow strip separating the top two reds. Although the strips are yellow the strips used are slightly transparent which means they look gold when applied.
4731 was actually painted in the full version of the new livery for the new vehicle order but never emerged from the paintshop, so I do not have photos of that one.
The photos of 4718 are here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4718.html
Both were soon repainted into standard livery and put back into service at Yardley Wood
Wouldn't you call that a waste of money to paint a bus in a new livery just then to repaint it back in its old livery?
Which is worse? designing a livery on paper, having a batch of buses painted in it, then realising it does not look good on vehicles themselves, or doing a trial, looking for improvements, then deciding. As you will see from the post, a couple of improvements were decided on after this was looked at
That was a rather large mistake of me! Sorry about that Tony - didn't read your post. Got a bit over excited about new livery instead of doing that.
I think it is a good idea of NX to trial it out - better to find out how it looks and taking their time over it to ensure that it is perfect when introduced - shows that they are caring about the presentation of the fleet. I'd rather they spend money doing this than introduce another mistake such as the 2009-2011 design which had fading paint and rather cheap looking connection bars etc.
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 22, 2014, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
I now have permission to put these two photographs of 4718 on the main site to show what the new livery will look like. I must point out that this is not the exact livery.
The middle red will be a darker shade (The shade on this is standard NXWM red) and there will be an additional yellow strip separating the top two reds. Although the strips are yellow the strips used are slightly transparent which means they look gold when applied.
4731 was actually painted in the full version of the new livery for the new vehicle order but never emerged from the paintshop, so I do not have photos of that one.
The photos of 4718 are here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4718.html
Both were soon repainted into standard livery and put back into service at Yardley Wood
Wouldn't you call that a waste of money to paint a bus in a new livery just then to repaint it back in its old livery?
Which is worse? designing a livery on paper, having a batch of buses painted in it, then realising it does not look good on vehicles themselves, or doing a trial, looking for improvements, then deciding. As you will see from the post, a couple of improvements were decided on after this was looked at
True, but couldn't the buses have been put in traffic in the new proposed livery and the public given a chance to comment on the new livery?
Looks great, I like it!
I know no-one has any idea yet when older vehicles will start to be repainted in this livery, however I'm curious to know whether Coventry vehicles will also end up in red, or is there a two-tone blue variation in the pipeline?
I like the new livery, makes the buses look better and dirt will not show up as fast as the white does. Just a question duno if has been answer but how will livery look on a single decker
Looks great
This new livery is awful! I hope it doesn't get used on Dundee's buses, will there be a blue version for Coventry?
Gutted we never got a chance to see this, looks alright but I think the newer shades of red on the mockup look better, trying it out first was a smart move!
Quote from: DavieDD2 on December 22, 2014, 09:59:50 PM
This new livery is awful! I hope it doesn't get used on Dundee's buses, will there be a blue version for Coventry?
I would think there would be a blue version for Coventry, maybe NX should consider changing Dundee's to two tone blue to coincide with traditional colours?
The transdev wrightbus gemni seriously impressive vehicle. I,ve been up to Leeds harrogate seen them in person they do stand out a mile, shouts quality. Nx platinum livery step in the right direction not sure about the maroon looks dated imO
A livery like so would be more suited
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/adammalarkey/11967205025/
Quote from: RR378 on December 23, 2014, 01:19:00 AM
A livery like so would be more suited
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/adammalarkey/11967205025/
That's horrid....
Quote from: Winston on December 23, 2014, 08:57:54 AM
Quote from: RR378 on December 23, 2014, 01:19:00 AM
A livery like so would be more suited
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/adammalarkey/11967205025/
That's horrid....
My wife's family live along the GNE 56 route so I see these often. I can safely say that livery looks just as hideous in the flesh.
Quote from: RR378 on December 23, 2014, 01:19:00 AM
A livery like so would be more suited
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/adammalarkey/11967205025/
Good grief, another explosion at the fablon factory.....
That orange Gemini certainly has been tangoed. My word that is rough worst thing about it they,ve paid to have it done on purpose.
With the bus painted in the new Livery it looks like it should be working in the capital of london rather than that of the streets of Bham.
Will the green 5401 - 5515 get a new look livery
Quote from: wembley86 on December 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
With the bus painted in the new Livery it looks like it should be working in the capital of london rather than that of the streets of Bham.
Will the green 5401 - 5515 get a new look livery
What about 5516-18. Would you keep them in the current livery?
Quote from: clayderman on November 29, 2014, 02:54:35 PM
Would love to see this livery portrayed on some Model Buses... (despite the lack of announcements from CMNLs and their models. Possibly Corgi and their Volvo Models)
Also, another thought. If the Hybrid Buses were to go in for repaint, would it be the same livery, but green? What I'm thinking of is sort of a Leprechaun Machine, lol. Although, I think the new livery would look splendid, given the situation where the entire NX fleet, (possibly including Dundee) would be uniform.
I had a chat with sunny chan he said the next ukbus releases will be in January and the twm omnicity is still being developed
As I said at the start this gets the thumbs up from me. A new livery with a touch of class. In fact I would probably have gone with any livery to get rid of the current awful expanse of white which rapidly takes on the appearance of off white/grey. Well done NXWM. Good to see they painted up a prototype. Gives a good idea of what the finished product will look like when new deliveries commence in 2015
I'm certainly even more in favour of it now that we've seen a version of it in the flesh. Although I do begin to wonder about the typeface of the logo - it still has the somewhat utilitarian look of the current livery.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 23, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 29, 2014, 02:54:35 PM
Would love to see this livery portrayed on some Model Buses... (despite the lack of announcements from CMNLs and their models. Possibly Corgi and their Volvo Models)
Also, another thought. If the Hybrid Buses were to go in for repaint, would it be the same livery, but green? What I'm thinking of is sort of a Leprechaun Machine, lol. Although, I think the new livery would look splendid, given the situation where the entire NX fleet, (possibly including Dundee) would be uniform.
I had a chat with sunny chan he said the next ukbus releases will be in January and the twm omnicity is still being developed
That's good to know. Is that NX models or ukbus releases in general do you know?
The marketing department have now given me this photo of 4731 to put on the main website
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4731.html
The photo of the bus is genuine, but because the light gave a false impression of the colours they have been photoshopped to try and make them look as accurate as possible, although the middle red still looks a bit light to what that on the new E400MMCs and E200MMCs will look like
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
The marketing department have now given me this photo of 4731 to put on the main website
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4731.html
The photo of the bus is genuine, but because the light gave a false impression of the colours they have been photoshopped to try and make them look as accurate as possible, although the middle red still looks a bit light to what that on the new E400MMCs and E200MMCs will look like
Got to be better than the current offering........surely though if the red is darker it will be indistinguishable from the maroon (if such it is).
A pity the proposed Platinum livery is so depressing....or can it still be changed?
Agree with some of the previous comments about looking too much like London buses.
Like the maroon but surely they could have found a different colour except red for the middle. A two tone blue version for Coventry is probably going to be all right though.
Do you know when I was young I never heard anyone say Midland Red buses looked 'too like' London just because they were red, or East Kent, or Devon General, or Trent or..............
Was this new livery inspired/derived from the prototype livery that 'Julie' carried?
Or is this a completely different attempt at a new livery, which is very good might I say
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
The marketing department have now given me this photo of 4731 to put on the main website
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4731.html
The photo of the bus is genuine, but because the light gave a false impression of the colours they have been photoshopped to try and make them look as accurate as possible, although the middle red still looks a bit light to what that on the new E400MMCs and E200MMCs will look like
Liking the new livery.
Shocked at the photoshop attempt though... I could have done better in MS Paint!
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
Do you know when I was young I never heard anyone say Midland Red buses looked 'too like' London just because they were red, or East Kent, or Devon General, or Trent or..............
Perfectly true.......but in those days Midland Red buses were different to anyone else.
As an aside,will the introduction of the new livery (which must be better than the current one) signal the end of the wanton vandalism of branding?
Perhaps the scales have finally fallen from the eyes of the PR wonks and they have realised that a fleet of well presented buses in a single attractive livery might be attractive to passengers ( sorry,customers) ...................but I must stop waffling,I have just seen a pig flying past the window.
The more I look at this new livery the more I don't like it, it's obvious where they've copied the design from, https://www.flickr.com/photos/48367168@N02/4891252433/in/photolist-8sdWWv-9vx8ph-pxQpJs-99eNQG-ob99PK-8sAyoR-9zZ9X7-9zZa6G-anyBxC-dU6svE-6jTd7J-pxN5xJ-8sArGT-9kPzBm-8WdbyL-oGoMic-9sHFLj-7FsXLw-6yDmzA-o8GFoA-mn8sXc-dG8ZCn-mF3MTE-o92qrw-pQ5N2v-dWgPaf-pxQpJY-dGevHf-iGimsC-99bHRp-omb3jy-o6PZwQ-aQZbEi-aQvVjx-9zWbsZ-nRoRUS-o9nfot-9wWbh3-q9edUh-aQYzxi-8WdgpS-8Wdhxw-8szUbP-mFAobz-8sCLQy-7Vmoxo-aQYgHx-6jTjY9-bTmSrp-aQYPZB, the 2 shades of red are too similar, same old logos, NX have missed a perfect marketing opportunity here, they could have opened this up to a customer competition with the top ten entries going to a public vote on their website, or would that have been too democratic for them?
Reading through this thread puts me in mind of a question: why should NXWM open up a public consultation about a livery change?
If I was running a business, I'd obviously bear in mind what would be most appealing visually to my customers, but could you imagine the vast amount of different opinions that a livery consultation would throw up?
How does the old adage go..? You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Quote from: DavieDD2 on December 24, 2014, 06:06:54 PM
The more I look at this new livery the more I don't like it, it's obvious where they've copied the design from, https://www.flickr.com/photos/48367168@N02/4891252433/in/photolist-8sdWWv-9vx8ph-pxQpJs-99eNQG-ob99PK-8sAyoR-9zZ9X7-9zZa6G-anyBxC-dU6svE-6jTd7J-pxN5xJ-8sArGT-9kPzBm-8WdbyL-oGoMic-9sHFLj-7FsXLw-6yDmzA-o8GFoA-mn8sXc-dG8ZCn-mF3MTE-o92qrw-pQ5N2v-dWgPaf-pxQpJY-dGevHf-iGimsC-99bHRp-omb3jy-o6PZwQ-aQZbEi-aQvVjx-9zWbsZ-nRoRUS-o9nfot-9wWbh3-q9edUh-aQYzxi-8WdgpS-8Wdhxw-8szUbP-mFAobz-8sCLQy-7Vmoxo-aQYgHx-6jTjY9-bTmSrp-aQYPZB, the 2 shades of red are too similar, same old logos, NX have missed a perfect marketing opportunity here, they could have opened this up to a customer competition with the top ten entries going to a public vote on their website, or would that have been too democratic for them?
First thing I told Tony when I saw it... It looked "Lothian inspired" ~ but I didn't mean it as a bad thing.
Yes I would've preferred TWM colours, but we can't live in the past. Maybe perhaps the beige strip I'd have blue but I'd have to see it on the metal, so to speak.
Apart from the lack of blue, its not that bad a livery. Its not a tap on the back yet for NX, maybe the livery in 2020 would be somewhere near the perfection we're all looking for.
We can live in hope! Ironically, my favourite livery never made it to Dundee - the toothpaste one.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 23, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: clayderman on November 29, 2014, 02:54:35 PM
Would love to see this livery portrayed on some Model Buses... (despite the lack of announcements from CMNLs and their models. Possibly Corgi and their Volvo Models)
Also, another thought. If the Hybrid Buses were to go in for repaint, would it be the same livery, but green? What I'm thinking of is sort of a Leprechaun Machine, lol. Although, I think the new livery would look splendid, given the situation where the entire NX fleet, (possibly including Dundee) would be uniform.
I had a chat with sunny chan he said the next ukbus releases will be in January and the twm omnicity is still being developed
Just UKbus in general I think. This is his facebook page, his dad runs northcord and he sells them!
https://www.facebook.com/shqmodel?fref=ts
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2014, 09:14:05 PM
Do you know when I was young I never heard anyone say Midland Red buses looked 'too like' London just because they were red, or East Kent, or Devon General, or Trent or..............
No doubt I would guess my last contribution to this website, but the Birmingham area has been used to blue coloured buses over many years, with many operators.
I guess NX has made a rod for its own back with the current awful red and white livery. To change to a completely different colour scheme would have left no continuity between old and new liveries.
I actually like the design of the new livery a lot. Just a shame that it couldn't have been the same design but with navy upper and lower, and mid blue middle section, instead of the maroon and red, and a cream / gold stripe - a sort of modern twist on the old PTE colour scheme.
I rather like the current NX bus livery - however the new one looks quite nice - just a little concerned the second red doesn't contrast well enough - having seen Stagecoach's Cambridge P and R liveries, the red and maroon is superb.
But they need to keep one eye on retaining a link with the corporate image of National Express which is a good one.
I am still upholding my opinion about, what I think, is a 'step-forward' livery for NX. However, many of you are persistent with some blue in the new livery... I mean, times have changed, the company is progressing - but it got me thinking. IF NX kept the 'template' of their new livery, but used the colours like that on the MCW Metrobuses (due to a similar layout) - what would it look like?
Some of you may know, I like to 'develop' paperbuses into either my own livery ideas, or base it on simple liveries...
Here's what I came up with:
- Credit to Brendan Urquhart, talented paperbus creator from Flickr.
- Livery by: Yours Truly
EDIT:I've decided to include the proposed livery, also. To give a comparison between the two.
Clayderman - Excellent work!!! And I am glad you've done the TWM inspired one ~ I think it looks better then the proposed new livery! I love it!! Maybe a blue and cream/black and cream BCT inspired one next? It should be easy to change the colours to the correct vintage.
Blimey, a praise from LS? That's rare. ;)
Clayderman, what a spectacular job you did! You should be proud of yourself. I really like the TWM inspired livery, that looks wonderful. I miss the TWM livery. Shame that won't be applied on the new buses.
I will reserve my opinion of the new livery until I see it with my eyes when it comes out in 2015. Not going to criticise it from a photograph.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 26, 2014, 06:26:10 PM
Clayderman - Excellent work!!! And I am glad you've done the TWM inspired one ~ I think it looks better then the proposed new livery! I love it!! Maybe a blue and cream/black and cream BCT inspired one next? It should be easy to change the colours to the correct vintage.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 26, 2014, 07:51:05 PM
Blimey, a praise from LS? That's rare. ;)
Clayderman, what a spectacular job you did! You should be proud of yourself. I really like the TWM inspired livery, that looks wonderful. I miss the TWM livery. Shame that won't be applied on the new buses.
I will reserve my opinion of the new livery until I see it with my eyes when it comes out in 2015. Not going to criticise it from a photograph.
Thanks Guys. I appreciate the feedback, still though, I think the proposed livery is best for it's new era. And LS, as for your request, it's coming
very soon. ;D Keep your eyes peeled. :P - All I need to do is repaint the template I have, with the BCT colours, unless you want me to start from scratch - see how the BCT colours would sit on the E400MMC
Here you are, LS. This was almost TOO soon. Ironic really, as I don't finish my homework as quick as I repaint paperbuses. lol ;D
Record time: Repainted & Uploaded within 10 minutes, 20 seconds.
I've made the red one a few weeks ago, actually - then painted it into the NXPlatinum - if anyone would like to see it, i'd be more than happy to share it on here.
Quote from: clayderman on December 26, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
Here you are, LS. This was almost TOO soon. Ironic really, as I don't finish my homework as quick as I repaint paperbuses. lol ;D
Record time: Repainted & Uploaded within 10 minutes, 20 seconds.
I've made the red one a few weeks ago, actually - then painted it into the NXPlatinum - if anyone would like to see it, i'd be more than happy to share it on here.
I think any two contrasting colours in the new NX livery swoop looks excellent! Why they had to chose red and red I'd never know. Excellent work as always, but I think the roof should maybe be a darker cream? And please post the platinum livery too :)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 26, 2014, 11:03:13 PM
Quote from: clayderman on December 26, 2014, 08:20:46 PM
Here you are, LS. This was almost TOO soon. Ironic really, as I don't finish my homework as quick as I repaint paperbuses. lol ;D
Record time: Repainted & Uploaded within 10 minutes, 20 seconds.
I've made the red one a few weeks ago, actually - then painted it into the NXPlatinum - if anyone would like to see it, i'd be more than happy to share it on here.
I think any two contrasting colours in the new NX livery swoop looks excellent! Why they had to chose red and red I'd never know. Excellent work as always, but I think the roof should maybe be a darker cream? And please post the platinum livery too :)
Will do. :)
Not gonna lie, I like the proposed standard NX and platinum liveries but holy crap the TWM and BCT ones you've mocked up are superb!!
Quote from: Kevin on December 27, 2014, 08:29:29 AM
Not gonna lie, I like the proposed standard NX and platinum liveries but holy crap the TWM and BCT ones you've mocked up are superb!!
It doesn't really matter what livery they choose........they will only go and plaster multicoloured branding stickers all over it !!!
Great job clayderman livery's of yest er year with a few clever tweaks still look great. I think it wouldn't hurt to repaint some buses into heritage colour schemes, metrobus mk3 3088 at hockey garage all ways looked the business.
All your words are too kind. lol - But i'd hate to bombard this thread with pictures, hopefully, I'll try to get them up onto my Flickr account, granted if I get permission from the net creator himself. Talented guy, y'know. :)
Looks like a proper livery.
If the buses are the same colour as the new fare charts they're going to be dark
Is there a collection of photos chronicling the history of West Midlands bus liveries, a time line of which liveries started when and ceased to be, specifically from what is today nxwm to its routes through history. May be some one can point me the right direction if not a project for somebody. I,ve seen various random snapshots on the net at various points in time but nothing in order.
I can remember as kid in the 80s seeing so many variations of the blue/cream then blue/ silver.
After looking at trainbashers YouTube videos more so the Arriva Sapphire one I had some suggested vids come up which had vids from other parts of the Arriva bus family, and low and behold in the Nertherlands Arriva have NXB with red dipped fronts and white backs for local routes and then a mid grey bar along the bottom of the bus of out of city routes.
This lead me to think are Arriva looking to change there livery through out Europe as they had what looked to be new buses painted into this livery. Because if that is the case then I can see why NXB have decided to change the livery.
The red is still hideous, but this would get the "thumbs up from me" :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7473/16225891391_a962a919ec_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qHPWd8)NX new livery 2 (https://flic.kr/p/qHPWd8) by DD02 BUS (https://www.flickr.com/people/66812080@N03/), on Flickr
That could be the Coventry Variant possibly? ;)
Coventry are welcome to share it - as long as Dundee get it as well!
Quote from: DavieDD2 on January 08, 2015, 04:52:49 AM
The red is still hideous, but this would get the "thumbs up from me" :)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7473/16225891391_a962a919ec_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qHPWd8)NX new livery 2 (https://flic.kr/p/qHPWd8) by DD02 BUS (https://www.flickr.com/people/66812080@N03/), on Flickr
A very attractive livery but............it really doesn't matter how the buses are painted if they are immediately covered with multicoloured branding stickers does it.
@arrifirststage ... You really hate branding, don't you? Haha
Maybe another new style of branding for the new livery... Simpler the better in my opinion; like the Pershore Road livery of old.
Make both of those blues darker, and the swoop cream, and that would make a great West Midlands livery, instead of the maroon / red.
An updated article on the NX website has appeared for this years order:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/transport-bosses-announce-timetable-for-record-investment
It mentions that the first new buses will be on the road in March with the last buses to enter service being the Platinum Vehicles in the summer
Sounds like Dundee might get some more cascaded 15 year old Presidents them, woo hoo! (they'd still be better than our wrecked Geminis)
Quote from: Nathan on January 08, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
An updated article on the NX website has appeared for this years order:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/transport-bosses-announce-timetable-for-record-investment
It mentions that the first new buses will be on the road in March with the last buses to enter service being the Platinum Vehicles in the summer
where will the first batch of new buses be going to if its been decided yet