They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
Lots of nice cheap omnilinks for coventry :P
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
Lots of nice cheap omnilinks for coventry :P
I hope 1953 was the last of the heaps!
It could be an order of B7RLE/MCV, that'd be interesting.
Quote from: Michael on February 11, 2013, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
Lots of nice cheap omnilinks for coventry :P
I hope 1953 was the last of the heaps!
It could be an order of B7RLE/MCV, that'd be interesting.
So do I!!! Yeah it could be some of these-Id have my money on it being these if it werent eclipses and nxwm seem to have gone off the omnilink so!
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 11, 2013, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
Lots of nice cheap omnilinks for coventry :P
I hope 1953 was the last of the heaps!
It could be an order of B7RLE/MCV, that'd be interesting.
So do I!!! Yeah it could be some of these-Id have my money on it being these if it werent eclipses and nxwm seem to have gone off the omnilink so!
It may be that its all double deckers being ordered?
I vote for a batch of mcv, welcome and unusual addition to the fleet
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 09:09:03 PM
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 11, 2013, 08:52:50 PM
They have confirm the 23 new buses but I thought they have been order with 27 new buses! New Buses will be arrive around in Spring and some more before end of the year. :D
I think would be "New Mercedes Citaro" on the Foleshill branding and Scanias could replace the 23 old buses to withdrawn?
NXC's MD was quoted as saying 27 were due during 2013 in the CBW NX Group special feature article. Obviously numbers have now changed, sounds as though NXC may eventually end up with more than the 27 new buses thought due.
I'd like to see NX order a batch of Citaro's but doubt it will happen, it looks as though the NX standard double decker will be ADL E400 & Volvo B7RLE/Wright for full size single deckers
Don't think we will be seeing any B7RLE/Wright in this order
YAY! Thank goodness for that they are horrible...
This is where all those untrue rumours and speculation start now with what will be ordered...
I don't actually know what IS on order, but I do know from people I know at Wrights that the only buses they are building for NXWM at the moment are the hybrids for WN.
Wrights have confirmed orders for 480 Borismasters for London last time I asked, may be 600 by now so won't be short of work
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Just can't see NXWM buying MCV, MCV are not typically a supplier of bigger group orders.
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Just can't see NXWM buying MCV, MCV are not typically a supplier of bigger group orders.
That is true though perhaps until now. WMT/twm/nxwm have often bought more unusual buses such as the mercs which seemed unusual at the time
Could be some enviro 200's.
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Just can't see NXWM buying MCV, MCV are not typically a supplier of bigger group orders.
That is true though perhaps until now. WMT/twm/nxwm have often bought more unusual buses such as the mercs which seemed unusual at the time
Yes and looked what's happened when they want to sell them on, nobody is interested....
Yawn yawn yawn, 23 x Enviro 400 >:(
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Just can't see NXWM buying MCV, MCV are not typically a supplier of bigger group orders.
Wasnt the whole point of MCV Teaming up with Volvo was so it had a better change of getting big group orders,Could be the new streetlite MAX,same seats as an eclipse but cheaper to run/purchase
Quote from: CRP2012 on February 12, 2013, 10:11:11 AM
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 11, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
Maybe scania can offer some omnilinks going cheap to provide work for their plant in Poland where loads of employees are being made redundant. Its possible tho it could be enviro400s or mcv bodied b7rles but I for one cant wait to find out
Just can't see NXWM buying MCV, MCV are not typically a supplier of bigger group orders.
Wasnt the whole point of MCV Teaming up with Volvo was so it had a better change of getting big group orders,Could be the new streetlite MAX,same seats as an eclipse but cheaper to run/purchase
If NX do decide to buy more single deckers I think they will keep Wrightbus as the supplier & standardize the bodywork. It would like to see NX buy some Citaro's though for a couple of branded or premier single deck routes, the styling gives an air of quality....
I'm going to throw the MVC Merc into the mix too as I think its slightly cheaper. But I think they may just be Mercs as its Cov.
Quote from: Tony on February 11, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
I don't actually know what IS on order, but I do know from people I know at Wrights that the only buses they are building for NXWM at the moment are the hybrids for WN.
Tony,
The further 60 x ADL E400 that you thought would be coming, was that more rumour than a confirmed order?
Quote from: Abluhwleh on February 11, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Yawn yawn yawn, 23 x Enviro 400 >:(
Don't think so. Only 10 for the 10
Just think about it, what other buses have been ordered for the west mids, Enviro 400, Enviro 200, plus there was the MCV demonstrator, which many people seemed to like. So based on this could coventry get some new Midi buses or some MCV B7RLE's
MCV dont just do Volvo MCV's, Merc Benz also do a chassis for MCV, I'm not sure which is the cheaper but the Mercs would be better for Coventry.
Quote from: thetruth on February 17, 2013, 11:55:51 PM
Could be Enviro300 for the single decks.
I'd would have thought if NX were ever intending to purchase any Enviro 300's that they would have chosen those over the B7RLE/Wright
In another thread somebody has said Coventrys Omnilinks are to be transferred out?
I cant cornfirm what depots at this time but Scanias are on the move around, I will try for some more info today.
Quote from: BN on February 18, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
I cant cornfirm what depots at this time but Scanias are on the move around, I will try for some more info today.
I was just thinking last week, that the Coventry Scania's could go to West Bromwich for the 83/89 and a few other West Brom services also, and then give Coventry 15 extra new buses to replace them in this years order.
I did think sending omnilinks to WB would be a good move in terms of not having mercs entering birmingham but until now there probably wouldn't have been a way to source them, transfer the batch they could upgrade another WB route or just brighten them all up
How many scania do cov atm?
Quote from: John on February 18, 2013, 11:23:33 AM
Quote from: BN on February 18, 2013, 09:23:06 AM
I cant cornfirm what depots at this time but Scanias are on the move around, I will try for some more info today.
I was just thinking last week, that the Coventry Scania's could go to West Bromwich for the 83/89 and a few other West Brom services also, and then give Coventry 15 extra new buses to replace them in this years order.
Or to perry Barr to displace all of their enviros to Pensnett
They could even go to Walsall to replace the remaining liberators and ensure the 311/313 is fully omnilink operated and may be upgrade the 29/302 to omnilink operation then Walsall would have 1848-1904 then.
Quote from: Ash on February 18, 2013, 07:09:08 PM
They could even go to Walsall to replace the remaining liberators and ensure the 311/313 is fully omnilink operated and may be upgrade the 29/302 to omnilink operation then Walsall would have 1848-1904 then.
Or YW to allow the withdrawal of the last 9 B10L there
9 to YW, 6 to WB
Quote from: Ashley on February 18, 2013, 09:20:04 PM
9 to YW, 6 to WB
You wouldn't send an odd 6 to a garage that didn't already operate any. The whole point of moving them from Coventry will be to reduce the number of garages stocking spare parts.
Perry Barr is another candidate
True, I thought 6 would cover the 83 and 89 but now I'm not so sure, and then theres type training, narrows it down abit
It would be good to send the lot to WB as they do need newer buses.
Quote from: Peter123 on February 18, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
It would be good to send the lot to WB as they do need newer buses.
WB needs to receive a decent size batch of brand new vehicles, not newer cascades
Quote from: Winston on February 18, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on February 18, 2013, 09:33:04 PM
It would be good to send the lot to WB as they do need newer buses.
WB needs to receive a decent size batch of brand new vehicles, not newer cascades
I think they would be happy with whatever newish buses they can get their hands on
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2013, 09:22:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley on February 18, 2013, 09:20:04 PM
9 to YW, 6 to WB
You wouldn't send an odd 6 to a garage that didn't already operate any. The whole point of moving them from Coventry will be to reduce the number of garages stocking spare parts.
Perry Barr is another candidate
I'd have thought PB, WA & YW would all be good candidates to receive additional Omnilinks should they become available, which in turn will allow the last of the B10L's to be withdrawn.
There's not point moving Omnilinks to a garage that doesn't currently operate they type unless they could allocate a sizeable batch
- 10 ADL Double Decker on the 10 route ( 2 B6LE to Withdrawn or 6-8 Merc to Withdrawn)
- 17 or more than 17 New Vehicle on the branding Foleshill Rd :- X15 new vehicle on the 20/20A/20E and Could be two spare going on the 1.
- 15 Blue Scanias transferred to NX West Midlands garage?
- Could be receive a Trident from YW (4200-4202) to CV for increase the 11/12 route with peak times.
- 16/A could full operate the Double Decker before Service 10 getting the New 10 ADL.
Quote from: Ashley on February 18, 2013, 09:26:02 PM
True, I thought 6 would cover the 83 and 89 but now I'm not so sure, and then theres type training, narrows it down abit
6 wouldn't be enough to cover the 83/89.
2147 loan to CV for training and seen around in City Centre 11:44am.
37 branded Omnilink in Coventry for Driver Training
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 21, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
2147 loan to CV for training and seen around in City Centre 11:44am.
is it safe to assume that Coventry will be getting examples of this bus in the not to distant future ?
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 21, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
2147 loan to CV for training and seen around in City Centre 11:44am.
Bet there will be B7 RLE on the foleshill road then??? Omnilinks to AG?
Not sure why they would need to transfer any buses out of Coventry - they have around 35 of the oldest Mercs, of which 18 are R Reg and thus amongst the oldest buses in the NXWM/NXC fleet.
Interesting they are training on B7RLEs - any arriving could potentially be new ones (not yet announced) or nearly new transfers? BC have 30 and WN 48 (both of which garages seem to be involved in new buses/cascades resulting from new Hybrids at WN).
I suggests Blue Scanias has lost branded on Foleshill Rd, Receive a new 17 buses on the Foleshill Rd + 10 ADL on the 10 route between Bell Green to Eastern Green with Every 15min and Total is 27 buses.
Quote from: don on February 21, 2013, 03:00:05 PM
Not sure why they would need to transfer any buses out of Coventry - they have around 35 of the oldest Mercs, of which 18 are R Reg and thus amongst the oldest buses in the NXWM/NXC fleet.
Interesting they are training on B7RLEs - any arriving could potentially be new ones (not yet announced) or nearly new transfers? BC have 30 and WN 48 (both of which garages seem to be involved in new buses/cascades resulting from new Hybrids at WN).
Tony has previously suggested that much of the new order of double-decks would be used to upgrade some routes to single-decker; so while some single-deck vehicles could be withdrawn, there's no reason why there couldn't be a shifting around of 'nearly-new' single-decks to replace older ones too on routes that still need them.
Quote from: Shaun on February 21, 2013, 01:15:41 PM
37 branded Omnilink in Coventry for Driver Training
That's quite strange, as Coventry already operate Omnilinks (and are rumoured to be losing them) why would they need another one for driver training? ::)
I thought it was mentioned somewhere that the Foleshill Road omnilinks have only been debranded to have a new branded put on them similar to the 4 and 37.
There were at least 2 mercs on the 20 today, 1606:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/madabouttransport/8494131169/in/photostream
1680:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/madabouttransport/8494114531/in/photostream/
Quote from: Stu on February 21, 2013, 07:29:30 PM
Tony has previously suggested that much of the new order of double-decks would be used to upgrade some routes to single-decker; so while some single-deck vehicles could be withdrawn, there's no reason why there couldn't be a shifting around of 'nearly-new' single-decks to replace older ones too on routes that still need them.
Yes I know, and I agree with what you say - however as Coventry has more of the oldest single decker vehicles than any other garage it would make sense to actually replace some of their old single deckers, with new double deckers (Tony says 10) than to shift newer ones elsewhere. I'm guessing NXC may receive some cascaded newer single deck vehicles or brand new ones at some point also.
Engineering staff from Acocks Green sometimes drive over in buses to Coventry. I've seen AG Geminis, Presidents and 37 branded Omnilinks as well as Volvo single deckers used on the 73 in Coventry in recent months during the daytime with mechanics driving.
Quote from: JoNi on February 23, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Engineering staff from Acocks Green sometimes drive over in buses to Coventry. I've seen AG Geminis, Presidents and 37 branded Omnilinks as well as Volvo single deckers used on the 73 in Coventry in recent months during the daytime with mechanics driving.
Doesn't Coventry do MOT work for AG?
I don't know if Coventry do MOT work for AG, but the President came and went in about 10 minutes!
Quote from: Winston on February 23, 2013, 06:23:11 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 23, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Engineering staff from Acocks Green sometimes drive over in buses to Coventry. I've seen AG Geminis, Presidents and 37 branded Omnilinks as well as Volvo single deckers used on the 73 in Coventry in recent months during the daytime with mechanics driving.
Doesn't Coventry do MOT work for AG?
I'm quite sure YW do AG/CV MOT's.
2153 loan to CV for Cov driver training in City Centre around on 09:44 and 11:23
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 27, 2013, 12:00:30 PM
2153 loan to CV for Cov driver training in City Centre around on 09:44 and 11:23
Sounds as though NXC are due a batch of Volvo B7RLE's then
Yes, Fantastic news :D
I can believe Volvo B7RLE's could be new branding on the Foleshill Rd will be light green branding similar colour on the 48 branded.
I imagine B7RLEs would look really good in NXC livery, not jumping to conclusions yet though
Quote from: Shaun on February 27, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
I imagine B7RLEs would look really good in NXC livery, not jumping to conclusions yet though
The evidence seems to back up the rumours suggesting a batch of B7RLE may be due
Quote from: nobody on February 27, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 27, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Shaun on February 27, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
I imagine B7RLEs would look really good in NXC livery, not jumping to conclusions yet though
The evidence seems to back up the rumours suggesting a batch of B7RLE may be due
Yep. But with which bodywork? Considering Tony said Wrights had nothing from the West Midlands on order
I'll be gob smacked if NX ordered any with the MCV bodywork. Tony said that there was nothing else going through production at Wrightbus for NX at the moment other than the Hybrids, orders for 2013 still haven't been announced in detail, we only know NX intend to buy 130 new buses this year.
White liveried B7RLE 2153 has arrived at Coventry and was being used throughout today for driver training in Pool Meadow and around the Swanswell area of the City Centre.
I could imagine Wright/B7RLE in NXC livery, and if 2153 is in Coventry then it could be possible
Quote from: Ashley on February 28, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
I could imagine Wright/B7RLE in NXC livery, and if 2153 is in Coventry then it could be possible
The only thing that is a little odd is that they appear to be type training drivers now, when Tony has confirmed that nothing else is currently in build at Wrightbus, it doesn't mean to say that further B7RLE/Wright aren't being ordered for delivery later in the year
I saw morning 2153 at front Coventry garage. Maybe not back on Acocks Green Garage this week.
If there are no buses on order then the only other conclusion is that buses are being transferred from NXWM, requiring the fronts to be repainted! NXC haven't even got a red route in Coventry as it's Stagecoach X15/X18.
Quote from: Winston on February 28, 2013, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: Ashley on February 28, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
I could imagine Wright/B7RLE in NXC livery, and if 2153 is in Coventry then it could be possible
The only thing that is a little odd is that they appear to be type training drivers now, when Tony has confirmed that nothing else is currently in build at Wrightbus, it doesn't mean to say that further B7RLE/Wright aren't being ordered for delivery later in the year
Maybe hey plan to swap the omnilinks with AG B7 RLE
Quote from: JoNi on February 28, 2013, 01:09:15 PM
If there are no buses on order then the only other conclusion is that buses are being transferred from NXWM, requiring the fronts to be repainted! NXC haven't even got a red route in Coventry as it's Stagecoach X15/X18.
Know one has said there are none on order, just none currently going through production @ Wrightbus,
Quote from: Winston on February 28, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 28, 2013, 01:09:15 PM
If there are no buses on order then the only other conclusion is that buses are being transferred from NXWM, requiring the fronts to be repainted! NXC haven't even got a red route in Coventry as it's Stagecoach X15/X18.
Know one has said there are none on order, just none currently going through production @ Wrightbus,
There are now some in production now, Miller Street are preparing to send some vault to Ballymena right now. The vaults for the next batch of standard Enviro 400s are also being prepared to send in about 3 weeks time!
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 28, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 28, 2013, 01:09:15 PM
If there are no buses on order then the only other conclusion is that buses are being transferred from NXWM, requiring the fronts to be repainted! NXC haven't even got a red route in Coventry as it's Stagecoach X15/X18.
Know one has said there are none on order, just none currently going through production @ Wrightbus,
There are now some in production now, Miller Street are preparing to send some vault to Ballymena right now. The vaults for the next batch of standard Enviro 400s are also being prepared to send in about 3 weeks time!
Ah mystery solved..... Tony, do have you any idea of quantities due?
Why have NX become so secretive about announcing breakdowns of actual vehicle on order? All the other big groups are happy to give a breakdowns of what has been ordered/with which manufacturer in the trade press. I can understand NX not wanting to disclose plans of which routes they are intended for until they arrive for commercial reasons etc
Yes, If 15 Volvo B7RLE on the 20 20A 20E route in Mon to Sat with Every 5min along Foleshill Road and there are currently two spare could be going on the 1 route. X 15 blue Scanias going to where or stay in Coventry garage??
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 28, 2013, 07:57:34 PM
Yes, If 15 Volvo B7RLE on the 20 20A 20E route in Mon to Sat with Every 5min along Foleshill Road and there are currently two spare could be going on the 1 route. X 15 blue Scanias going to where or stay in Coventry garage??
I would think the omnilinks may leave Coventry and transfer to either YW or PB to replace some of the liberators in service there or even Walsall as they currently have the 1848-1862 and 1863-1877 would complete the series and replace the liberators there as they fit under the bridge by the saddlers so would be OK for the 38.
Recently, 1869 has lost logo "National Express Coventry". If blue scanias will transferred to NX West Midlands that I missed 1875 because my favorite is 1875.
Or transferred to Perry Barr for increase the fleet due to North Birmingham & Sutton Coldfield will provide a " more more buses".
Sorry Tony, 'vaults' to Ballymena???
Quote from: Daniel541 on February 28, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
Recently, 1869 has lost logo "National Express Coventry". If blue scanias will transferred to NX West Midlands that I missed 1875 because my favorite is 1875.
Or transferred to Perry Barr for increase the fleet due to North Birmingham & Sutton Coldfield will provide a " more more buses".
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I can't see the scanias leaving NXC, seems strange to remove newish buses when Coventry have some of the older series of Mercs, surely the scanias could take over the routes worked by some of the Mercs and the new buses for the Foleshill road services or vice versa. Strange decision to remove brandings and fleetnames from the scanias though
Quote from: nobody on February 28, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
The plan was 27 new buses. So 17 B7RLE and 10 Enviro400.
But the plan also appears to result in the cascading of 15 x Omnilinks to NXWM, therefore will only allow for 12 older buses to be withdrawn
Quote from: RW on February 28, 2013, 08:32:26 PM
Sorry Tony, 'vaults' to Ballymena???
The red coin vaults to the Wrightbus factory in Ballymena
I would think the 2 remaining b6le's will 2 that will be withdrawn or transferred elsewhere as they have been refurbished and don't seem to be in a bad condition.
20/20A/20E requires 13 buses and 1 requires 2 buses so 17 buses makes sense allowing restoration of two spares.
Type training was in full swing at Coventry with 2153 out today with destination showing
"Broad Street 1E
via Moseley Village
more interesting than "Not in Service"!
I see Ashes point about knocking off the B6s only 662 was out on 3/A today.
Yesterday, 586 working on the 3 3A was well and today 586 could be sleep in the garage for more rest. 586 and 662 are very good condition and better than 661 and 663. I would like 586 and 662 transferred to Wolvenhampton for more replace the Excel.
Quote from: JoNi on February 28, 2013, 09:16:41 PMBroad Street 1E
via Moseley Village
Wow: do you have a photo?
National Express Coventry is set to receive 27 of these vehicles in the next batch to be delivered for upgrades along the Foleshill Road and Ansty Road corridors, Service 10 is also expected to benefit from brand new Enviro 400 double deckers.
2153 was emerging from Coventry Garage during driver training.
Can be seen the photo of 2153 at Front Coventry garage:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8518234562/in/photostream/
They have been confirm the All blue Scanias will going ahead to Perry Barr Garage.
Ooh, that sounds good.
23 is the core quantity of buses working services 8, 8A, 9, 9A and 10 in the daytime.
Then seemingly an additional 15, but in exchange for young Omnilinks currently allocated to services 1, 20, 20A and 20E.
So overall it sounds like at least 38 new buses plus hopefully an additional 4 spare buses (10.5%) assuming the previously quoted quantity of either 23 or 27 is indeed 27.
'All blue scanias going ahead to Perry Barr garage.'???
I think 8 8A will stay with Double Decker and New B7RLE on the 9 9A with Every 15min and PVR is 7.
Quote from: RW on March 02, 2013, 01:44:40 PM
'All blue scanias going ahead to Perry Barr garage.'???
Not now, Soon will leave the Coventry garage. Cov Driver say" All Blue Scanias will transferred to Perry Barr garage" All Blue Scanias going to Walsall garage for front repaint to NX West Midlands and remove a advert the NXC fares then going to home Perry Barr garage.
Daniel are you and 'Jade' twins or something because your written language is pretty much identical to 'hers'
Well the amazingly abusive and foul mouthed personal Facebook message I just received from 'Jade', and 'Daniel' now being guest status, suggests they are one and the same!
I have been warned of new incarnations on here, all because she doesn't want Tony, Ash, Ashley, Stu and Nathan to know its her. Nasty person who over uses the C word! Well that's brightened up my Saturday afternoon!
Anyway back to the buses :)
Quote from: Gareth on March 02, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
Well the amazingly abusive and foul mouthed personal Facebook message I just received from 'Jade', and 'Daniel' now being guest status, suggests they are one and the same!
I have been warned of new incarnations on here, all because she doesn't want Tony, Ash, Ashley, Stu and Nathan to know its her. Nasty person who over uses the C word! Well that's brightened up my Saturday afternoon!
Anyway back to the buses :)
Don't forget I can see email addresses and IP addresses so I have known all along that they were the same person, the email address makes me think "he" is the correct word but obviously don't know for definite
Have i totally missed something here?
Quote from: Gareth on March 02, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
Daniel are you and 'Jade' twins or something because your written language is pretty much identical to 'hers'
I always thought that the lack of good English was very similar to 'Jades'.
Quote from: Gareth on March 02, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
Daniel are you and 'Jade' twins or something because your written language is pretty much identical to 'hers'
I thought exactly the same Gareth but didnt want to say anything or make a fuss!!!
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Gareth on March 02, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
Well the amazingly abusive and foul mouthed personal Facebook message I just received from 'Jade', and 'Daniel' now being guest status, suggests they are one and the same!
I have been warned of new incarnations on here, all because she doesn't want Tony, Ash, Ashley, Stu and Nathan to know its her. Nasty person who over uses the C word! Well that's brightened up my Saturday afternoon!
Anyway back to the buses :)
Don't forget I can see email addresses and IP addresses so I have known all along that they were the same person, the email address makes me think "he" is the correct word but obviously don't know for definite
Does anyone else not think its weird that people are doing stuff like that ie pretending that their name is something instead of their real one. As far as Im concerned it seems better to use your own name if you are comfortable with that or use something else like a bus number or nickname etc.
Quote from: Peter123 on March 02, 2013, 06:24:31 PM
Quote from: Gareth on March 02, 2013, 02:39:20 PM
Daniel are you and 'Jade' twins or something because your written language is pretty much identical to 'hers'
I thought exactly the same Gareth but didnt want to say anything or make a fuss!!!
Same here, I've suspected this for some time too.
Is there a date for when B7RLE's at Coventry will
be in service lookingforward to seeing them in blue
Quote from: Solo1 on March 03, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
Is there a date for when B7RLE's at Coventry will
be in service lookingforward to seeing them in blue
Probably not until much later in the year.
Quote from: Daniel541 on March 02, 2013, 02:09:55 PM
New B7RLE on the 9 9A with Every 15min and PVR is 7.
I wonder how they will cope around the terminus of the 9a.
I was on a decker on the 42 one time around school kicking out time (back when the 42 was a through service) and it was mayhem around there!
Quote from: Solo1 on March 03, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
Is there a date for when B7RLE's at Coventry will
be in service lookingforward to seeing them in blue
does that explain why 2153 was up at Coventry ?
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 11:54:15 AMdoes that explain why 2153 was up at Coventry ?
Yeah, it will be type training.
It's a shame that some vehicles can't be kept for the 1: the use of such a large vehicle is a waste.
I wish WMSNT could get that tender back: they were so much more reliable, had a realistic timetable, did a good job and their vehicles weren't even that bad for such a small company!
Quote from: Valandil on March 03, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 11:54:15 AMdoes that explain why 2153 was up at Coventry ?
Yeah, it will be type training.
It's a shame that some vehicles can't be kept for the 1: the use of such a large vehicle is a waste.
I wish WMSNT could get that tender back: they were so much more reliable, had a realistic timetable, did a good job and their vehicles weren't even that bad for such a small company!
what route 1 is this sorry?, I didn't even know Cov had a route1. I might be wrong
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
what route 1 is this sorry?, I didn't even know Cov had a route1.
Tile Hill - Uni Hospital via City Centre. Runs Hourly. An hour end to end so 2 buses required. Omnilink's are on it at the moment
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Valandil on March 03, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 11:54:15 AMdoes that explain why 2153 was up at Coventry ?
Yeah, it will be type training.
It's a shame that some vehicles can't be kept for the 1: the use of such a large vehicle is a waste.
I wish WMSNT could get that tender back: they were so much more reliable, had a realistic timetable, did a good job and their vehicles weren't even that bad for such a small company!
what route 1 is this sorry?, I didn't even know Cov had a route1. I might be wrong
Coventry bus routes: http://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/?page=1
The two b6le's remaining at Coventry would suit the 1 service as the loadings don't seem to warrant the need for omnilinks and would be ideal.
Quote from: John on March 03, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
what route 1 is this sorry?, I didn't even know Cov had a route1.
Tile Hill - Uni Hospital via City Centre. Runs Hourly. An hour end to end so 2 buses required. Omnilink's are on it at the moment
Quote from: John on March 03, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
what route 1 is this sorry?, I didn't even know Cov had a route1.
Tile Hill - Uni Hospital via City Centre. Runs Hourly. An hour end to end so 2 buses required. Omnilink's are on it at the moment
I didn;t know CV had a route 1
Quote from: NathanJC on March 03, 2013, 05:41:56 PM
I didn;t know CV had a route 1
It doesn't touch the main part of the City Centre by Pool Meadow. Only New Union Street, Little Park Street and Jordan Well
oh Probally why Ive never seen it then
WMNST operated the 1 when it was reinstated following complaints from residents of Chapelfields of the loss of their link to Earlsdon in the Coventry Network Review. The bus drove all day without any layover with the Driver seemingly driving for more than 5 hours 30 minutes without a break if the bus operated according to the timetable!
If you want to see NXCs 1 they pass outside the Council House roughly on the hour. You don't have to be too lucky to get both of them passing in a photograph!
Before the review the 1 was known as "the route that went from nowhere to nowhere with nobody on it".
Same applies to the current NXC route 1 :D
Presume your comments refer to where it goes to and from.
The 1 is an ideal candidate as an off peak operation with the bus being used as school bus in the same way as the 42 operates in Coventry.
Quote from: Stu on March 03, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 03, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
Is there a date for when B7RLE's at Coventry will
be in service lookingforward to seeing them in blue
Probably not until much later in the year.
It says here 27 new Volvo's are due and the OmniLink's are going to Walsall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8536780395/
It also says routes 8/8A/9/9A will benefit from the new order, suggesting that the B7RLEs will be used on these services as well as the 20/A/E. It also states that rout 1 requires new vehicles as part of a Centro contract agreement, so spare eclipses will be used on the 1
Quote from: John on March 08, 2013, 08:47:52 AM
Quote from: Stu on March 03, 2013, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 03, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
Is there a date for when B7RLE's at Coventry will
be in service lookingforward to seeing them in blue
Probably not until much later in the year.
That's now both Perry Barr & Walsall that have been reported to be receiving the Scania Omnilinks
It says here 27 new Volvo's are due and the OmniLink's are going to Walsall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8536780395/
The photographer is a driver at Coventry, maybe he's had insider knowledge? Or did the transfers to Perry Barr come from a similar source?
Quote from: Gareth on March 08, 2013, 01:55:47 PM
The photographer is a driver at Coventry, maybe he's had insider knowledge? Or did the transfers to Perry Barr come from a similar source?
I should imagine the final destination may more likely be Walsall then, I can't remember where Perry Barr came from? It could have been more of an assumption based on the forthcoming North B'ham review & the quantities of B10L & Scania Omnilink being available tie up. PB, WA & YW are the most likely recipients, with all operating B10L's & Scania Omnilinks
Quote from: nobody on March 08, 2013, 03:10:46 PM
I got told there was only going to be a net increase of 12 new vehicles. 17 B7RLE + 10 Enviro400 - 15 Scanias = 12.
It seems know one knows for sure other than management. Matt King is quoting the 27 x B7RLE + the Enviro E400.
The MD of NXC quoted a total of 27 new buses as well, before Xmas in CBW
Quote from: nobody on March 08, 2013, 03:16:39 PM
Info from a source at Coventry. Not Matt King.
B7RLE should start to appear at the end of the month. 10 due initially.
I didn't think they'd be arriving quite that quick, but given that driver training has already commenced, that backs up the fact that they can't be far away.......
May be more in due later in the year? If CV are only gaining a nett increase of 12 new buses, that's not going to put much of a dent in the 36 early Mercs they currently operate numbered between 1515 - 1627
Doesn't surprise me that the omnilinks are likely to go to Walsall as I thought this was a possibility and mentioned it earlier on in this thread due to Walsall already having half of the 58 reg omnilinks. The merc's are not that bad in Coventry compared to the ones used at West Bromwich / Pensnett and Wolverhampton after spending most of their life's in and around Birmingham.
I think it's 27 Eclipse vehicles which are being delivered + 10 Enviro 400 - 15 Scanias, meaning up to 22 Mercs can be let go.
Though I suspect that the actual number will be less than this, since PVR of the 8/8a will have to increase to be able to operate with these smaller vehicles!
It is good that the 10 and 16(a) will be DD operated soon, and a surprise that 8(a) will not.
Quote from: Valandil on March 08, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
I think it's 27 Eclipse vehicles which are being delivered + 10 Enviro 400 - 15 Scanias, meaning up to 22 Mercs can be let go.
Though I suspect that the actual number will be less than this, since PVR of the 8/8a will have to increase to be able to operate with these smaller vehicles!
It is good that the 10 and 16(a) will be DD operated soon, and a surprise that 8(a) will not.
Wrights are currently building 24 Eclipse (body numbers AG345-AG368)
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
It looks as though CV will now make a nett gain of 19 new buses then,
Is there a launch planned for the Enviros or B7RLEs, when they arrive?
Quote from: Shaun on March 11, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
Is there a launch planned for the Enviros or B7RLEs, when they arrive?
Hold your horses they aren't built yet!
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
It looks as though CV will now make a nett gain of 19 new buses then,
Looks that way: +10 Enviro 400 + 24 Volvo B7RLE/Wrights -15 Scania Omnilink (presumably some Merc O405N's will be withdrawn plus possibly the two remaining Wright B6's at the same time).
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 11, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
It looks as though CV will now make a nett gain of 19 new buses then,
Looks that way: +10 Enviro 400 + 24 Volvo B7RLE/Wrights -15 Scania Omnilink (presumably some Merc O405N's will be withdrawn plus possibly the two remaining Wright B6's at the same time).
I would have thought the worst of the R/S batch would be withdrawn, along with as you say the two remaining B6LE which will remove two vehicle types from CV (i.e. B6LE & Omnilinks) and gain one B7RLE
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 11, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
It looks as though CV will now make a nett gain of 19 new buses then,
Looks that way: +10 Enviro 400 + 24 Volvo B7RLE/Wrights -15 Scania Omnilink (presumably some Merc O405N's will be withdrawn plus possibly the two remaining Wright B6's at the same time).
I would have thought the worst of the R/S batch would be withdrawn, along with as you say the two remaining B6LE which will remove two vehicle types from CV (i.e. B6LE & Omnilinks) and gain one B7RLE
CV still has 44 Mercedes O405N - 36 of the slightly older variety, some of those are starting to look pretty ragged. Oddly the NXC repaints of 2008/9 look worse than those in the earlier Travel Coventry scheme, that livery has weathered & lasted well. Cov received 38 of the type originally [1540-55/95-1616] and we've ended up with more of them, not less, over the last 15 years.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 11, 2013, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 11, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 11, 2013, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2013, 06:13:36 PM
Cheers Tony
So it sounds like these will be covering routes 1, 9, 9A, 20, 20A, and 20E
and two spare (8.4%).
It looks as though CV will now make a nett gain of 19 new buses then,
Looks that way: +10 Enviro 400 + 24 Volvo B7RLE/Wrights -15 Scania Omnilink (presumably some Merc O405N's will be withdrawn plus possibly the two remaining Wright B6's at the same time).
I would have thought the worst of the R/S batch would be withdrawn, along with as you say the two remaining B6LE which will remove two vehicle types from CV (i.e. B6LE & Omnilinks) and gain one B7RLE
CV still has 44 Mercedes O405N - 36 of the slightly older variety, some of those are starting to look pretty ragged. Oddly the NXC repaints of 2008/9 look worse than those in the earlier Travel Coventry scheme, that livery has weathered & lasted well. Cov received 38 of the type originally [1540-55/95-1616] and we've ended up with more of them, not less, over the last 15 years.
You still haven't got quite as many as Penensett. Have to say I agree, the TWM livery has weathered much better than the current NXWM/NXC livery
Coventys Mercs don't seem to age at all really, like most of thei fleet to be fair, its only the two B6s that show their age
Are you really saying that this is completely suited to the modern age?!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839326962/in/photostream
(Thanks to the photographer).
Quote from: Valandil on March 16, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Are you really saying that this is completely suited to the modern age?!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839326962/in/photostream
(Thanks to the photographer).
In fairness it was probably last painted 11 years ago you wouldn't find an nxwm example looking that good. If not for the removal of stickers it would be near perfect.
1595 was repainted before Showbus in 2004 so around 8 and a half years ago.
Quote from: richie on March 16, 2013, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Valandil on March 16, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Are you really saying that this is completely suited to the modern age?!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839326962/in/photostream
(Thanks to the photographer).
In fairness it was probably last painted 11 years ago you wouldn't find an nxwm example looking that good. If not for the removal of stickers it would be near perfect.
I agree the photo of 1539 I have linked is a prime example of this the photo was taken in 2011 the bus entered service in June 1998 so after 13 years it still looks immaculate and as good as new externally without a single repaint and still has it's original fleet numbers above the door and above the drivers window.
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1539.html
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1539.html
Quote from: Ash on March 17, 2013, 02:13:44 AM
Quote from: richie on March 16, 2013, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Valandil on March 16, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
Are you really saying that this is completely suited to the modern age?!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7839326962/in/photostream
(Thanks to the photographer).
In fairness it was probably last painted 11 years ago you wouldn't find an nxwm example looking that good. If not for the removal of stickers it would be near perfect.
I agree the photo of 1539 I have linked is a prime example of this the photo was taken in 2011 the bus entered service in June 1998 so after 13 years it still looks immaculate and as good as new externally without a single repaint and still has it's original fleet numbers above the door and above the drivers window.
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1539.html
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1539.html
It appears to have rust which suggests a new panel
When attending the Your Public Transport Matters event in Coventry last Wednesday NXC stated the Bendibuses will be lasting five or six more years in Coventry!
The Mercedes in Coventry are in dreadful state compared with similar generation low floor Dennis Darts that operate for Stagecoach and other operators.
Many of Coventry's original Mercedes were switched with higher mileage ones that had been in Birmingham.
I have put body numbers for the 24 being built along with the chassis numbers of the first 20 for anyone interested here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
I have put body numbers for the 24 being built along with the chassis numbers of the first 20 for anyone interested here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
Any idea when they should arrive or how long a bus takes to build?
Thanks for the info Tony. I'm also asking richies question, I assume we'll start seeing them maybe April onwards
Quote from: Ashley on March 17, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
Thanks for the info Tony. I'm also asking richies question, I assume we'll start seeing them maybe April onwards
April? I'd guess it'll be much later in the year, maybe summer at the earliest?
Quote from: Stu on March 18, 2013, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 17, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
Thanks for the info Tony. I'm also asking richies question, I assume we'll start seeing them maybe April onwards
April? I'd guess it'll be much later in the year, maybe summer at the earliest?
If Wrights already have the chassis numbers, that means the bodies are already under construction, so not too far away. The fact 20 are already on the production line tells me the first ones are almost finished
I guess this means I have to haul my backside to Coventry to photograph the Omnilinks before the Wrights are finished ::)
Quote from: Tony on March 18, 2013, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 18, 2013, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 17, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
Thanks for the info Tony. I'm also asking richies question, I assume we'll start seeing them maybe April onwards
April? I'd guess it'll be much later in the year, maybe summer at the earliest?
If Wrights already have the chassis numbers, that means the bodies are already under construction, so not too far away. The fact 20 are already on the production line tells me the first ones are almost finished
True, and I will admit that I don't know how long how it takes to build a bus and test it, but still April is a bit optimistic for them to have been built, delivered and in service? ::)
As Coventry had a batch of Mk1 Metrobuses in the 2156-68 range - suppose it is appropriate that the expected Volvo B7RLE's will carry similar numbers.
Registrations for 2154-2177 are now on here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Is it staying at Coventry?
2154 (BX13JRU) is showing the same reg as 5421.
Quote from: uniquicity on March 21, 2013, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Is it staying at Coventry?
2154 (BX13JRU) is showing the same reg as 5421.
Both lists came from head office, will check them tomorrow
Thanks for pointing it out
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
Registrations for 2154-2177 are now on here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Is 2122 now an AG bus? Quite sure I seen it today.
There is a 21 branded enviro 400 parked up at the bus parts place in Great Bridge, West Bromwich at the moment
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on March 21, 2013, 08:03:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Is it staying at Coventry?
2154 (BX13JRU) is showing the same reg as 5421.
Both lists came from head office, will check them tomorrow
Thanks for pointing it out
My mistype on 5421, will correct it asap
No worries Tony, great work as usual.
Quote from: Michael on March 21, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
Registrations for 2154-2177 are now on here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
2153 is now a permanent member of the NX fleet
Is 2122 now an AG bus? Quite sure I seen it today.
Tony had it down in the January fleetchanges (in February) as being transferred to AG, but I was under the impression this was a loan at the time, however you're right it is still at AG, I'm sure I saw it on the 1 last Sunday.
2122 was a permanent transfer to AG, at the time I think to cover for B7TL's , maybe its needed there still for an increased vehicle requirement perhaps
Quote from: Ashley on March 21, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
2122 was a permanent transfer to AG, at the time I think to cover for B7TL's , maybe its needed there still for an increased vehicle requirement perhaps
remember AG have lost 7020
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 21, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
2122 was a permanent transfer to AG, at the time I think to cover for B7TL's , maybe its needed there still for an increased vehicle requirement perhaps
remember AG have lost 7020
Where has 7020 swanned off too? PB?
Quote from: Michael on March 22, 2013, 03:27:18 AM
Where has 7020 swanned off too? PB?
Yes it has gone to Perry Barr. Been there at least a week now. I'm wondering if 7019 might follow suit
Just to see what they'll look like...
Quote from: nx4737 on March 24, 2013, 03:48:02 AM
Just to see what they'll look like...
Bloody hell I hope they put some sort of branding on. It just looks hideous lol.
I do hope 7019 follows suit, along with 1931-1953 with any luck! Terrible buses, I hate them!
Having said that, I hope they don't go the other way and have some ex Cov ones arriving to make the 37 100% DD, or the 1, which I have a feeling may be converted to SD in the near future.
Ideally I'd like to see AG get a new batch of buses, if not for the 11, then the 37. I reckon give within the next 2 years, we'll be seeing the next replacements for the 37.
if 2153 is now a permanent member of the fleet, will it stay at cv, and be painted/retrimmed to match the others?
Quote from: Michael on March 24, 2013, 05:35:13 AM
Quote from: nx4737 on March 24, 2013, 03:48:02 AM
Just to see what they'll look like...
Bloody hell I hope they put some sort of branding on. It just looks hideous lol.
I do hope 7019 follows suit, along with 1931-1953 with any luck! Terrible buses, I hate them!
Having said that, I hope they don't go the other way and have some ex Cov ones arriving to make the 37 100% DD, or the 1, which I have a feeling may be converted to SD in the near future.
Ideally I'd like to see AG get a new batch of buses, if not for the 11, then the 37. I reckon give within the next 2 years, we'll be seeing the next replacements for the 37.
The 1 has become SD on a Sunday, with only B7RLEs being used, and they easily handle the loadings. If there were enough spare on a Sunday, I'm sure they'd use them on the 5 and 31A also.
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
I have put body numbers for the 24 being built along with the chassis numbers of the first 20 for anyone interested here
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
There has been a slight change to the list with a registration to fleetnumber swop! Of course all I posted originally about these was Wright were building 24 Eclipse. I have not stated anywhere all 24 are for Coventry which everyone seems to have presumed! ( I have not got the allocations for them before anybody asks)
Can anyone tell us when the new wright buses are due at WN?.. how many,? and are they likely to be route branded prior to delivery? thanks .
Quote from: windy miller on March 27, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
Can anyone tell us when the new wright buses are due at WN?.. how many,? and are they likely to be route branded prior to delivery? thanks .
The Wright Eclipse Gemini 2s (on Volvo B5LH hybrid chassis) have already been delivered to Wolverhampton and are in service. I don't think WN are due any more from Wrightbus, unless I've missed something here. ::)
Sorry stu, :-[ I was assuming that the series 5410 to 5421 may also be going to WN...I can't imagine CV needing any so which depot(s) are most likely? or has it not been decided yet? thanks.
Quote from: windy miller on March 27, 2013, 08:26:25 PM
Sorry stu, :-[ I was assuming that the series 5410 to 5429 may also be going to WN...I can't imagine CV needing any so which depot(s) are most likely? or has it not been decided yet? thanks.
Windy, 5410-5430 are ADL Enviro 400 Hybrids, 5410-5421 are destined to go to WN, while 5422-5430 are for Dundee. The first few of WN's allocation have already been delivered to the garage without any markings
thanks winston much appreciated as always ;) ps..tony's list is showing 5517/18 as route 1 branding....
Quote from: windy miller on March 27, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
thanks winston much appreciated as always ;) ps..tony's list is showing 5517/18 as route 1 branding....
That would be because they are route 1 branded, along with 5515/16
Thanks NX4737 for your image of a NXC liveried B7 single decker in the dreadful insipid livery inspired by Jimmy Hill.
I'll believe they are coming when I see one in the street and get on it. Mind you 2153 has pleasant dark red seats and is in another world compared with the clapped out noisy Mercs. It also doesn't have the awful grey interior on recent NXWM single deckle deckers.
Quote from: JoNi on March 27, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
Thanks NX4737 for your image of a NXC liveried B7 single decker in the dreadful insipid livery inspired by Jimmy Hill.
I'll believe they are coming when I see one in the street and get on it. Mind you 2153 has pleasant dark red seats and is in another world compared with the clapped out noisy Mercs. It also doesn't have the awful grey interior on recent NXWM single deckle deckers.
Several are already built and painted in NX Coventry livery in Ballymena
Quote from: windy miller on March 27, 2013, 08:39:13 PM
thanks winston much appreciated as always ;) ps..tony's list is showing 5517/18 as route 1 branding....
Windy miller, 5515-18 are branding for the 1
Still don't know how to put quotes but to Tony, thnks for the latest on NXC's next E400 batch, looking forward to seeing them. Do you know if they'll have route 10 branding?
Quote from: Ashley on March 28, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
Still don't know how to put quotes but to Tony, thnks for the latest on NXC's next E400 batch, looking forward to seeing them. Do you know if they'll have route 10 branding?
They are supposed to have a bronze coloured branding similar to the 21
Thanks John
Quote from: John on March 28, 2013, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 28, 2013, 10:04:07 PM
Still don't know how to put quotes but to Tony, thnks for the latest on NXC's next E400 batch, looking forward to seeing them. Do you know if they'll have route 10 branding?
They are supposed to have a bronze coloured branding similar to the 21
I'm assuming the colour coded Coventry bus network map is an indicator of the colour of branding of further Coventry routes. This shows the 10 as a brownish bronze colour in line with John's note.
Slightly off topic but with the Coventry Omnilinks rumoured to depart some time this year, are they being displaced by new single deckers or is there a double deck upgrade planned?
Methinks the plan is :oto replace the omnilinks with b7rle's, and upgrade the 10 with the enviros, the omnilinks will then move to walsall, so i read on here.
we shall see i suppose
Quote from: Ashley on March 31, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Slightly off topic but with the Coventry Omnilinks rumoured to depart some time this year, are they being displaced by new single deckers or is there a double deck upgrade planned?
Omnilinks will depart when the B7RLEs appear. It's my understanding that the B7RLEs are in the process of being built
Quote from: Shaun on April 01, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
Omnilinks will depart when the B7RLEs appear. It's my understanding that the B7RLEs are in the process of being built
I think the first of the B7RLE's for Coventry have already been finished
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 10:33:49 AM
Quote from: Shaun on April 01, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
Omnilinks will depart when the B7RLEs appear. It's my understanding that the B7RLEs are in the process of being built
I think the first of the B7RLE's for Coventry have already been finished
Yeah, 2153 ::)
Quote from: Stu on April 01, 2013, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 10:33:49 AM
Quote from: Shaun on April 01, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
Omnilinks will depart when the B7RLEs appear. It's my understanding that the B7RLEs are in the process of being built
I think the first of the B7RLE's for Coventry have already been finished
Yeah, 2153 ::)
2153 is not one of Coventry's, yes some of 2155 upwards are built
Quote from: Tony on April 01, 2013, 10:48:25 AM
2153 is not one of Coventry's, yes some of 2155 upwards are built
Oh ok, I just figured with NX keeping fleet numbers in line that it may stay at Coventry then. I don't suppose you know where it might head next then?
Here are some arriving at Heysham Docks, including both NXWM and NXC B7RLE's
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2435690804&k=xQ39wHj
They look excellent in Coventry blue.
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
Here are some arriving at Heysham Docks, including both NXWM and NXC B7RLE's
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2435690804&k=xQ39wHj
They look excellent in Coventry blue.
I agree with you John they look Great in NXC Livery I wonder where the NXWM Livery one is going
2171-77 to NXWM then with the first 17 going to Coventry. 17 sounds a familiar number, sure it was mentioned earlier in the thread
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
2171-77 to NXWM then with the first 17 going to Coventry. 17 sounds a familiar number, sure it was mentioned earlier in the thread
Do you know which Garage will be having 2171-2177?
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
And possibly for a garage that already operates the type i.e AG, BC, PE or WN
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
And possibly for a garage that already operates the type i.e AG, BC, PE or WN
if it is any of those, I think it would be more likely to be Pensnett or Wolverhampton, with older Single Deckers there.
I'll say Dundee or WB for the 48. Just to be different.
(Soon to be commuting on the 48)
They could go to AG on the 37, so that some Omnilinks could transfer to YW to make the 27 fully Omnilink operated and cascade some B10Ls.
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
And possibly for a garage that already operates the type i.e AG, BC, PE or WN
if it is any of those, I think it would be more likely to be Pensnett or Wolverhampton, with older Single Deckers there.
They me be destined for a garage that operates a route for the Brierley hill better bus area ie Pensnett or Wolverhampton
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
I'll say Dundee or WB for the 48. Just to be different.
(Soon to be commuting on the 48)
Doubt they'll be for Dundee, as Dundee's normally carry Scottish plates & don't get delivered to Heysham.
& WB getting them, did you realise its after Midday? so April fools no longer apply...... :P
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
WB for the 48. Just to be different.
As much as I would welcome this, I don't think it's going to happen, there wouldn't be a lot of point sending the B7s to WB unless there was a sizeable amount. Besides, if WB were to get some new singles, they'd more than likely be used on services 83/89
Quote from: Shaun on April 01, 2013, 03:08:48 PM
They could go to AG on the 37, so that some Omnilinks could transfer to YW to make the 27 fully Omnilink operated and cascade some B10Ls.
I thought possibly the 7 new B7RLE + 2153 could go to YW for the 27, thus allowing the 9 remaining B10L to be withdrawn. But I would have thought that cascaded Omnilinks would be the better option to reduce the number of vehicle types in YW's allocation
Quote from: richie on April 01, 2013, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
And possibly for a garage that already operates the type i.e AG, BC, PE or WN
if it is any of those, I think it would be more likely to be Pensnett or Wolverhampton, with older Single Deckers there.
They me be destined for a garage that operates a route for the Brierley hill better bus area ie Pensnett or Wolverhampton
One of those routes would either be the 255, 276 or X96 then? There wouldn't be enough to convert the 246.
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2013, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: richie on April 01, 2013, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: John on April 01, 2013, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
No. I could guess and say they will be for a route with a PVR of 5/6.
And possibly for a garage that already operates the type i.e AG, BC, PE or WN
if it is any of those, I think it would be more likely to be Pensnett or Wolverhampton, with older Single Deckers there.
They me be destined for a garage that operates a route for the Brierley hill better bus area ie Pensnett or Wolverhampton
One of those routes would either be the 255, 276 or X96 then? There wouldn't be enough to convert the 246.
I think the better option would be to send them to PE or WN as AG & BC are near full with Vehicles plus BC expecting Tridents from WN when all the Hybrids have entered service and work on the Metro is finished
Confused now.
Tony's list has BX13JRU with a body number of AG345, but the photo shows it as AG362. Plans changed again I assume?
Quote from: uniquicity on April 01, 2013, 05:26:48 PM
Confused now.
Tony's list has BX13JRU with a body number of AG345, but the photo shows it as AG362. Plans changed again I assume?
Wrights were supposed to paint AG345 red, but painted AG362, so that one will take fleetnumber 2154, looks like registrations may not have swopped though
I see. So its basically 2153 and 2154 to another depot, 2155-77 to Coventry along with 10 Enviro400 to replace 15 Scanias and around 16-18 older single decks?
I would think 2153/2154 to AG to replace 7019/7020 to PB.
The 15 scania's at Coventry I heard somewhere could be going to Walsall? which would probably see off the liberators and a few b6le's as well as the omnilinks being able to be used on the 34/38 which the b7rle's cannot be.
Quote from: Ash on April 01, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
The 15 scania's at Coventry I heard somewhere could be going to Walsall? which would probably see off the liberators and a few b6le's as well as the omnilinks being able to be used on the 34/38 which the b7rle's cannot be.
Are the B7LREs too tall for the railway bridge on Bridgeman Street in Walsall?
Quote from: SMK on April 01, 2013, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 01, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
The 15 scania's at Coventry I heard somewhere could be going to Walsall? which would probably see off the liberators and a few b6le's as well as the omnilinks being able to be used on the 34/38 which the b7rle's cannot be.
Are the B7LREs too tall for the railway bridge on Bridgeman Street in Walsall?
Yeah it's 3.0 meters
If 2153 ended up at BC it will have been at every Mk2 B7RLE garage within a year.
Strange the news! 2154 is NX West Midlands Livery nd 2155 is NX Coventry Livery!
2154 @ NXWM livery :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8609288757/
2155 @ NXC livery:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8609288881/in/photostream/
Quote from: 6013 on April 01, 2013, 08:58:14 PM
Strange the news! 2154 is NX West Midlands Livery nd 2155 is NX Coventry Livery!
2154 @ NXWM livery :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8609288757/
2155 @ NXC livery:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8609288881/in/photostream/
This may indicate that 2154 is heading to Birmingham Central, as well as possibly 2153, to keep fleet numbers together
If 2153/54 move to BC, I'd imagine 2123/24 will go to AG to make up for the move of 7019/20 to PB. Keeping the fleet numbers nice and organised.
Quote from: Gareth on April 01, 2013, 11:57:41 PM
If 2153/54 move to BC, I'd imagine 2123/24 will go to AG to make up for the move of 7019/20 to PB. Keeping the fleet numbers nice and organised.
It may be 2153/4 to AG, 2122 AG back to BC & 7019 to PB to join 7020 which is already there.
Or an alternative scenario 2153/4 to BC, one replaces 2122 & releases 2123 to AG & 7019 to PB.
Quote from: Ash on April 01, 2013, 06:26:49 PM
The 15 scania's at Coventry I heard somewhere could be going to Walsall?
Perry Barr has also been suggested as a possible destination, which would no doubt allow for the withdrawal of all 16 x B10L remaining, that scenario may also tie in with North B'ham review?
Tony, I read on the Yahoo site that 23 B7s are due for Coventry. To stop all the confusion can you confirm that from the current build 2153 is in NX red livery (Registration swapped) and remaining 23 are destined for NX Coventry
2153 is a former demonstrator, in all-white, which has been used at Coventry for type-training, and has now been purchased by NX. It is not one of the new buses being delivered.
The number of B7RLEs for Coventry seems to vary, depending on which Flickr photo you look at ::), but my understanding from what I have read here and elsewhere, is that National Express Coventry confirmed on their own Facebook page last year that they would be receiving '27 new buses next year' (2013), of which 10 will be new Enviro400s, which has been stated elsewhere, which means that Coventry should get 17 B7RLEs.
Quote from: Stu on April 02, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
2153 is a former demonstrator, in all-white, which has been used at Coventry for type-training, and has now been purchased by NX. It is not one of the new buses being delivered.
The number of B7RLEs for Coventry seems to vary, depending on which Flickr photo you look at ::), but my understanding from what I have read here and elsewhere, is that National Express Coventry confirmed on their own Facebook page last year that they would be receiving '27 new buses next year' (2013), of which 10 will be new Enviro400s, which has been stated elsewhere, which means that Coventry should get 17 B7RLEs.
Most people on flikr have just been guessing, and the 27 quoted was the minimum number required to fulfill an agreement.
2153 is the ex demo and it's allocation was not decided last time I asked; 2154 is also for a red garage, Coventry is getting 23 B7RLEs (2155-77). There are no other B7RLEs currently in build
Thanks Tony, any clue to allocation of 2154?
Quote from: Wolves256 on April 02, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
Thanks Tony, any clue to allocation of 2154?
Maybe Birmingham Central Garage!
Quote from: 6013 on April 02, 2013, 10:13:57 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on April 02, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
Thanks Tony, any clue to allocation of 2154?
Maybe Birmingham Central Garage!
It will be best to send both 2153 & 2154 to BC to keep Fleet Numbers together :)
My bets are on 2154 for AG. I'm not sure if 7019 is still at AG, but that would probably go to PB.
Quote from: Tony on April 02, 2013, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: Stu on April 02, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
2153 is a former demonstrator, in all-white, which has been used at Coventry for type-training, and has now been purchased by NX. It is not one of the new buses being delivered.
The number of B7RLEs for Coventry seems to vary, depending on which Flickr photo you look at ::), but my understanding from what I have read here and elsewhere, is that National Express Coventry confirmed on their own Facebook page last year that they would be receiving '27 new buses next year' (2013), of which 10 will be new Enviro400s, which has been stated elsewhere, which means that Coventry should get 17 B7RLEs.
Most people on flikr have just been guessing, and the 27 quoted was the minimum number required to fulfill an agreement.
2153 is the ex demo and it's allocation was not decided last time I asked; 2154 is also for a red garage, Coventry is getting 23 B7RLEs (2155-77). There are no other B7RLEs currently in build
Thanks for the confirmation!
I noticed the new vehicles at Heysham were 2155/6/7/8 plus 2171/72/73 =7 I imagine 2153 will get a paint job and join 2154 on return to AG to replace 7019/20. any idea why there should be a 12 vehicle 'gap' ie 2159-2170 at heysham? ???
Quote from: Michael on April 02, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
My bets are on 2154 for AG. I'm not sure if 7019 is still at AG, but that would probably go to PB.
Thinking logically here, and if it is true that NX are preferring to keep fleet numbers in sequence at their garages:
2122 has already gone to AG, replacing 7020 which has gone to PB.
If BC then get to keep 2153, and receive 2154 from the new order, one could assume that 2123 would then transfer to AG, replacing 7019 which will presumably also head to PB.
Therefore AG lose two Scanias, and gain 2 Urban 2s, which are replaced at BC by 2153 and the remaining 'odd' bus in the new order of 24. :D
Presumably 7019 is going to replace 1480?
Best dust off the "snot filled hanky" for the coventry mercs and also the camera :D
at least 4 Coventry livereied B7's parked at Hartshores this morning in amongst a large number of tractior units.
Quote from: tphi12000 on April 05, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
at least 4 Coventry livereied B7's parked at Hartshores this morning in amongst a large number of tractior units.
Sounds as though they should start arriving at Coventry within the next week
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Ash,
Don't forget that there are 33 new buses due for Coventry i.e. 23 x Volvo B7RLE & 10 x ADL E400.
I would guess that could release approx 35 older vehicles for cascasde/withdrawal, possibly comprising of 2 x B6LE, 15 x Omnilink & 18 x Mercs
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Ash,
Don't forget that there are 33 new buses due for Coventry i.e. 23 x Volvo B7RLE & 10 x ADL E400.
I would guess that could release approx 35 older vehicles for cascasde/withdrawal, possibly comprising of 2 x B6LE, 15 x Omnilink & 18 x Mercs
If so, what routes would be operated by the 10 additional Enviro400?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 05, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Ash,
Don't forget that there are 33 new buses due for Coventry i.e. 23 x Volvo B7RLE & 10 x ADL E400.
I would guess that could release approx 35 older vehicles for cascasde/withdrawal, possibly comprising of 2 x B6LE, 15 x Omnilink & 18 x Mercs
If so, what routes would be operated by the 10 additional Enviro400?
CV route 10, it has been confirmed on here for a while now, it sounds as though the E400's may also be in build @ ADL
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 05, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Ash,
Don't forget that there are 33 new buses due for Coventry i.e. 23 x Volvo B7RLE & 10 x ADL E400.
I would guess that could release approx 35 older vehicles for cascasde/withdrawal, possibly comprising of 2 x B6LE, 15 x Omnilink & 18 x Mercs
If so, what routes would be operated by the 10 additional Enviro400?
The 10 I think.
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 05, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
I wonder if the 2b6le's will get transferred out of Coventry maybe to Wolverhampton as they both had a full retrim recently and have been the only two there for a while now. How many mercs are expecting to be withdrawn I'm guessing may be 10 with the 2 b6le's maybe leaving for further use elsewhere with also the 15 omnilinks leaving.
Ash,
Don't forget that there are 33 new buses due for Coventry i.e. 23 x Volvo B7RLE & 10 x ADL E400.
I would guess that could release approx 35 older vehicles for cascasde/withdrawal, possibly comprising of 2 x B6LE, 15 x Omnilink & 18 x Mercs
If so, what routes would be operated by the 10 additional Enviro400?
CV route 10, it has been confirmed on here for a while now, it sounds as though the E400's may also be in build @ ADL
By a quick count theres currently 18 mercs at Coventry that are still in the Travel Coventry livery I guess these could be the ones targeted for withdrawal.
Quote from: Ash on April 05, 2013, 06:19:42 PM
By a quick count theres currently 18 mercs at Coventry that are still in the Travel Coventry livery I guess these could be the ones targeted for withdrawal.
The majority of those will be from the 15--/early 16-- series, but it think some of the 18 will include 1636 & 1655 which are mark II Mercs, those were originally being retained & refurb'd
Are these merc withdrawals definate when the new buses arrive? At a guess, there's 33 new buses arriving which means when you've transferred the 15 omnilinks out, the two !6s will go and the remaining 16 could be tridents transferred to WM or just mercs withdrawn and if so they'd probably withdraw the ones in TC livery but some of the T and V reg ones at CV are sheds like 1680 and 1703
It has already been said that they will be used on NXC 10
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 05, 2013, 07:06:51 PM
It has already been said that they will be used on NXC 10
That was correct when it was posted, and is probably still correct, but is still not definate. It looks like Coventry will be the first garage to get E400s from this years order (no I don't know the delivery date yet)
Are they the only E400 on order as i'm sure i read somewhere on the forum that NX have 60 E400 on order?
This may have changed since but from what I gather. The initial plan was
12 x E400H - WN
10 x E400 - CV
20 x E400 - PB
18 x - ?????
Not sure if that's accurate
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 05, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
Are they the only E400 on order as i'm sure i read somewhere on the forum that NX have 60 E400 on order?
Why would I post that Coventry's would be the first of this year's order if they were the only ones?
Quote from: Ashley on April 05, 2013, 07:21:08 PM
This may have changed since but from what I gather. The initial plan was
12 x E400H - WN
10 x E400 - CV
20 x E400 - PB
18 x - ?????
Not sure if that's accurate
The 12 hybrids were always a definite, but as for the 60x Enviro400s, apart from the suggested 10 for Coventry, I don't think there's been any indication yet of where the remainder would be going.
Quote from: Ashley on April 05, 2013, 07:21:08 PM
This may have changed since but from what I gather. The initial plan was
12 x E400H - WN
10 x E400 - CV
20 x E400 - PB
18 x - ?????
Not sure if that's accurate
I was always under the impression that the E400H order was separate to the 60 standard E400's?
I wasn't sure, if thats wrong then i apoligise
Quote from: Ashley on April 05, 2013, 08:51:54 PM
I wasn't sure, if thats wrong then i apoligise
If the 12 WN E400H were included in the total of 60, then you would also need to add in the 9 presently being delivered to Dundee.
Either way, if there are infact a further 60 standard E400's on order with 130 new buses confirmed due during 2013, there is still a quantity unidentified/unconfirmed,
9 x E400H (Dundee)
12 x E400H (WN)
9 x Volvo B5LH (WN)
25 x Volvo B7RLE comprising 1 x used (2153) + 24 new ( 23 x CV, 2 x NXWM)
60 x ADL E400 (10 x CV, 50 x ?)
Total = 115, another 15 buses still to be ordered/type confirmed
Thanks for that
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 05, 2013, 08:51:54 PM
I wasn't sure, if thats wrong then i apoligise
If the 12 WN E400H were included in the total of 60, then you would also need to add in the 9 presently being delivered to Dundee.
Either way, if there are infact a further 60 standard E400's on order with 130 new buses confirmed due during 2013, there is still a quantity unidentified/unconfirmed,
9 x E400H (Dundee)
12 x E400H (WN)
9 x Volvo B5LH (WN)
25 x Volvo B7RLE comprising 1 x used (2153) + 24 new ( 23 x CV, 2 x NXWM)
60 x ADL E400 (10 x CV, 50 x ?)
Total = 115, another 15 buses still to be ordered/type confirmed
Don't shoot me if I'm wrong but aren't the 9 x E400Hs for Dundee from Last year?
If not then don't panic its just me getting wires crossed. Because if I am right then thats 24 buses still to be ordered which is a good round number. A thought on another 50 E400s tho 97 maybe if the 24hr running goes well, or the new ones for some where else and older E400s for the 97 as the 97 does have some people who like there weed to much travel on there.
Quote from: tank90 on April 06, 2013, 01:06:46 AM
Quote from: Winston on April 05, 2013, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 05, 2013, 08:51:54 PM
I wasn't sure, if thats wrong then i apoligise
If the 12 WN E400H were included in the total of 60, then you would also need to add in the 9 presently being delivered to Dundee.
Either way, if there are infact a further 60 standard E400's on order with 130 new buses confirmed due during 2013, there is still a quantity unidentified/unconfirmed,
9 x E400H (Dundee)
12 x E400H (WN)
9 x Volvo B5LH (WN)
25 x Volvo B7RLE comprising 1 x used (2153) + 24 new ( 23 x CV, 2 x NXWM)
60 x ADL E400 (10 x CV, 50 x ?)
Total = 115, another 15 buses still to be ordered/type confirmed
Don't shoot me if I'm wrong but aren't the 9 x E400Hs for Dundee from Last year?
If not then don't panic its just me getting wires crossed. Because if I am right then thats 24 buses still to be ordered which is a good round number. A thought on another 50 E400s tho 97 maybe if the 24hr running goes well, or the new ones for some where else and older E400s for the 97 as the 97 does have some people who like there weed to much travel on there.
No, the 9 for Dundee are part of this years orders, same as the 21 hybrids for NXWM, the Green Bus funding for them was announced last year
Thanks for that Winston, because I was getting confused about them last year because they were due last year but didnt something happen they where moved to this year. I don't know its easy to confuse me at times lol.
What's the 97 like to anti social behavior though, before sticking something new on it...
Any news on the B7RLEs, I only have 2 more CV Omnilinks left to complete the set ::)
Quote from: nx4737 on April 06, 2013, 11:45:40 PM
What's the 97 like to anti social behavior though, before sticking something new on it...
I used the 97 today in the afternoon. As the driver opened his doors on Moor Street, I was instantly knocked out by the smell of weed. Upstairs had a thick fog. We had a change driver at Digbeth and he came upstairs and sprayed his deodorant all over the upper deck, to try and mask the smell it was that bad.
The 97 does sadly have a large amount of anti social happenings on board. I always try and avoid sitting upstairs at any time due to music be played out loud, people smoking etc. Single decks are a good idea just a shame they have less seats. maybe tri-axle omnilinks would be a good idea for the route
You can have the Bendibuses from Coventry!
Quote from: JoNi on April 13, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
You can have the Bendibuses from Coventry!
would love that but there wouldn't be enough buses and don't want them leaving cov!!
2168 at Heysham Docks with a NXC logo above the offside drivers window, I assume it has been applied there to allow for branding? But its a coloured version rather than white
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2456209358&k=46gz4Vb
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
2168 at Heysham Docks with a NXC logo above the offside drivers window, I assume it has been applied there to allow for branding? But its a coloured version rather than white
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2456209358&k=46gz4Vb
Also the position of the fleet number on the front is different
Quote from: neale95 on April 14, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
2168 at Heysham Docks with a NXC logo above the offside drivers window, I assume it has been applied there to allow for branding? But its a coloured version rather than white
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2456209358&k=46gz4Vb
Also the position of the fleet number on the front is different
Yep, missed that one.
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: neale95 on April 14, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
2168 at Heysham Docks with a NXC logo above the offside drivers window, I assume it has been applied there to allow for branding? But its a coloured version rather than white
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2456209358&k=46gz4Vb
Also the position of the fleet number on the front is different
Yep, missed that one.
Same position as on the Hybrids at Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2013, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Quote from: neale95 on April 14, 2013, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 14, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
2168 at Heysham Docks with a NXC logo above the offside drivers window, I assume it has been applied there to allow for branding? But its a coloured version rather than white
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/HeyshamDocks/National-Express/28049117_Z6mq8w#!i=2456209358&k=46gz4Vb
Also the position of the fleet number on the front is different
Yep, missed that one.
Same position as on the Hybrids at Wolverhampton
We were on about the front fleetnumber which is above the nearside headlights, normally they are applied to the black strip dividing the top of the windscreen & the destination display
Strange that only one seemingly is coming from Wright's with fleetnames and number! As far as I can see all the others are blank
It looks like the 9/9A will be branded in red according to this pic on the NXC facebook page
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/10091_656896987659110_1851912035_n.jpg
Ha it's smiling :)
Quote from: John on April 16, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
It looks like the 9/9A will be branded in red according to this pic on the NXC facebook page
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/10091_656896987659110_1851912035_n.jpg
I don't know why NX don't specify the Wright bodied B7RLE's that are to be branded without the chrome grilles to allow more room for fleetnames / branding as other operators have
Quote from: Winston on April 16, 2013, 03:17:45 PM
Quote from: John on April 16, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
It looks like the 9/9A will be branded in red according to this pic on the NXC facebook page
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/10091_656896987659110_1851912035_n.jpg
I don't know why NX don't specify the Wright bodied B7RLE's that are to be branded without the chrome grilles to allow more room for fleetnames / branding as other operators have
And I think they look better without the grille, which is only going to end up being painted over, falling off, making the bus look needlessly scruffy
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/2013/04/16/vote-styvechale-or-stivichall-92746-33178224/
I think that branding's excellent - as you say, looks like the bus is smiling.
Not sure about this Stivichall competition though - great idea by NXC to involve the community in this - but the whole principle of changing the spelling rather smacks of Hyacinth Bucket (sorry - Bouquet ;D ) - a reflection on the community - not NXC who have done a great job obtaining publicity for the new investment - full marks!
Are these 8 going to replace Mercs?
Interesting how they decided to put 2040 as the fleet number on that picture rather than something that is actually going to CV ::)
I was on Diamond route 82 in Coventry Bus Station at 1.10pm, when 2155, 2157 and 2156, in that order came through and headed for the garage. They were running on trade plates. I don't know if any more followed as we then moved off en route to Solihull.
Quote from: JackC on April 16, 2013, 11:15:21 PM
Interesting how they decided to put 2040 as the fleet number on that picture rather than something that is actually going to CV ::)
My thoughts too. I guess they have used an actual picture of Dundee 2040 and photoshopped it into Coventry blue. That picture with the branding might have been made before one of the Coventry Batch was completed.
Quote from: John on April 19, 2013, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: JackC on April 16, 2013, 11:15:21 PM
Interesting how they decided to put 2040 as the fleet number on that picture rather than something that is actually going to CV ::)
My thoughts too. I guess they have used an actual picture of Dundee 2040 and photoshopped it into Coventry blue. That picture with the branding might have been made before one of the Coventry Batch was completed.
It looks as though the photo of 2040 is in Dock St depot, Dundee. Its normally the other way around, as Dundee's publicity is done in B'ham so Dundee normally have NXWM buses on its timetables/publicity
Quote from: Winston on April 19, 2013, 11:02:46 PM
It looks as though the photo of 2040 is in Dock St depot, Dundee. Its normally the other way around, as Dundee's publicity is done in B'ham so Dundee normally have NXWM buses on its timetables/publicity
Kind of related to this, the 2003 94 timetable that was recently on ebay had a picture of 'ST02 MZN' edited to look like it was wearing 94 branding, as on the 447* Tridents. The Dundee route branding was still visible on the side.
It amuses me that National Express are seen as positive when it uses the local media to find out the name of a suburb in it's own city, but is incapable of using it to proactively way to encourage bus travel. The bus may look happy but what I want as a customer is a reliable service supplied by motivated staff led by visionary individuals who are committed to transforming bus travel in the city. 2153 has a pleasant interior but these new buses wear the insipid livery spawned when Conservatives ran the council for a short period of time together with ghastly grey interiors. Shiny new buses they may be but it will be the same shoddy service where customers come last!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8662779943/
Could anyone tell me when 2155 to 2177 are due in service at Coventry.cheers Paddy
Quote from: PaddyGraham on April 23, 2013, 09:45:24 PM
Could anyone tell me when 2155 to 2177 are due in service at Coventry.cheers Paddy
Looking at the photo (Link on the message above yours) they are already at Coventry garage awaiting service
What buses are the new volvos replacing?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 28, 2013, 01:08:34 PM
What buses are the new volvos replacing?
The 2 B6LEs, all of the OmniLinks which are going elsewhere in NXWM, and a few older 0405Ns in Travel Coventry livery.
I'm sure that what's been said earlier in the thread or another topic
The first of Coventry's Enviro 400s have now been sighted part built at ADL's Scarborough plant
Quote from: John on April 28, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on April 28, 2013, 01:08:34 PM
What buses are the new volvos replacing?
The 2 B6LEs, all of the OmniLinks which are going elsewhere in NXWM, and a few older 0405Ns in Travel Coventry livery.
I'm sure that what's been said earlier in the thread or another topic
I need the other B6LE Coventry Bus. Tried yesterday top get it alongside 2153 but had no joy =D so gave up an went home
Observed 3 new single deckers arriving in Coventry at 4 p.m. turning onto Ring Road
Only got the number of the last one which was 2172.
Has anyone seen any of the new B7RLEs in service yet? Or are they being stored for a grand launch day?
As long as they don't appear before saturday I don't mind because I'm still missing a few photos of all the mercs at cov plus 662
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 07, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
As long as they don't appear before saturday I don't mind because I'm still missing a few photos of all the mercs at cov plus 662
662 was working on the 13/A. 586 was working on the 3/3A at today. 1542 is being to withdrawn. I guess next 1596 or 1602 will be withdrawn. 1597 is really loud when engine turn on always noise " Clamp" every 2-3min during engine working.
its not clamp its a clunk like you used to get on Metrobuses, hellfire, most Mercs are generally loud anyway, part of their charm amongst enthusiasts.
No, 1597 engine is not working well because due to noisy similar sound voice "clamp"
Most CV Mercs are normal sound expect only 1597 is really good condition. 1597 has recently fitted the new advert for weekly prices.
No new buses on the road yet resulting in vehicle shortage, 586 on 18/A this morning peak and 662 on 3/A. 2153 on 20/A/E.
Most likely when new buses will start the service around in later in May or On the 9 June.
Just been out to Tanyard Farm on 2157 on 6A. Nice bus pity about the crap grey interior.
Quote from: JoNi on May 09, 2013, 10:43:57 PM
Just been out to Tanyard Farm on 2157 on 6A. Nice bus pity about the crap grey interior.
Is there any more news on where the NXC Omnilinks may be cascaded too?
PB & WA are now down to 13 & 18 B10L's respectively
At least four B7s have been in service this morning.
2155 used to replace Enviro on 21
2156 12 morning peak
2157 19 and 12 morning peak, then replaced 662 on 3/A
2171 12 morning peak
Quote from: JoNi on May 10, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
At least four B7s have been in service this morning.
2155 used to replace Enviro on 21
2156 12 morning peak
2157 19 and 12 morning peak, then replaced 662 on 3/A
2171 12 morning peak
2155 still on the 21 at 4.00pm and 2171 was on the 23S around the same time today [Friday]
2171 did a couple of trips on 13 after 23S
2155, 2156, 2157 and 2171 worked on the 9/A today which I assume they will settle down on to as the route is to receive branded B7s.
2171 substituted as a result of a defective ticket machine.
How long after the new buses leave hartshorne
will the buses be in service at Coventry on the
9
Yes, There are 7 B7RLE still working on the 9/A. None B7RLE on 20's but next few weeks then new B7RLE's going on 20's
any date for when they will b all on the 20 if any spare i take it they will be on the 9
I know 1542 has gone but have any more mercs gone yet
Quote from: Solo1 on May 13, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
any date for when they will b all on the 20 if any spare i take it they will be on the 9
Some B7RLE still built the body, it would be arrive to CV garage around in later may on the 20's. You should going to Bus Station Stand H to Hospital and Stand N to Green Lanes bring taken a photo!
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 14, 2013, 07:24:58 AM
I know 1542 has gone but have any more mercs gone yet
I know, 586 still working on the 3/A. I will try find 662 if it work on 3/3A. I guess 1548,1595 and 1596 will be next to withdrawn due to poor condition.
Coventrys Mercs are not in that poor condition, theyre well kept and dont look their age by any means, try a few from west brom and youll know tatty mercs
I honestly fail to see how the Mercs look anything other than absolutely ancient.
Compare them with the standard single deck models which other operators use and in my opinion there is a massive difference.
I appreciate that there might be even worse at other NX depots, but that doesn't make Coventry's examples any better.
586 and 662 went last weekend apparently to have fronts repainted for further use by NX. Various sources have quoted different depots so won't comment here.
The new single deckers (2155/2156/2157, 2171 so far used) have settled down onto the 9/A, workings on other routes will be recorded under unusual workings.
First guess for me would be send them to Wolves, 2 B6s for the last 2 excels
Tony, I am really confusion! NXC fb page say" We're pleased to say that yes there will be new double decker buses for routes 8 and 8A in June!" I thought it new double decker going on the 10?
Quote from: 6013 on May 17, 2013, 07:49:04 AM
Tony, I am really confusion! NXC fb page say" We're pleased to say that yes there will be new double decker buses for routes 8 and 8A in June!" I thought it new double decker going on the 10?
Management do have changes of mind. If you notice for some time now I have only been posting what has happened, not what is going to happen.
I think 8(a) is a more fitting route to upgrade, as then the whole corridor Station - City Centre - Ansty Road will be upgraded at once.
However, if the 16(a) is still to become fully decker-allocated (not certain?), a couple more double-deck vehicles might be needed to ensure that this can be achieved, bearing in mind that the 10 currently uses fewer DD's than the 8(a).
(This is unless, perversely, the 10 sees fewer DD's in the future!)
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2013, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: 6013 on May 17, 2013, 07:49:04 AM
Tony, I am really confusion! NXC fb page say" We're pleased to say that yes there will be new double decker buses for routes 8 and 8A in June!" I thought it new double decker going on the 10?
Management do have changes of mind. If you notice for some time now I have only been posting what has happened, not what is going to happen.
Thnx bro!
Today I saw Three B7RLE in garage for fitting the new branding on 20's in garage and Its colour is light Green and say "NationalExpressCoventry20'
National Express Coventry have posted photos on their Facebook page of the branding being applied. Red on the 9/9A and a putrid lime green on the 20
2171 got receive a new branding on 20! and working on the 9 9A are very usually
Quote from: Gareth on May 17, 2013, 02:40:09 PM
National Express Coventry have posted photos on their Facebook page of the branding being applied. Red on the 9/9A and a putrid lime green on the 20
For people not on facebook,
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303115_674299545918854_576894260_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/263258_674299529252189_1488621841_n.jpg
I guess the green branding for the Foleshill road is in line with Stagecoach 48 branding which is also green. It may look better when we see it for real.
I do like the shade for the 9.
I take it more have arrived now, and most are nearly ready for service, with the few already out and the rest been branded.
2171 appeared this after with lime green branding and worked afternoon 9A/12/20A/20 working
2155/2157 appeared with sky blue branding under lower deck window saying "Another new bus for you"
Presumably a couple will be used for route 1 which won't have it's own branding.
I've heard rumours about the 8/A getting Enviros but commitment never was NXCs forte!
In the Coventry Network Review route 9/A was colour coded blue as Stagecoach's X15/18 had already taken red! Never mind.
The first 2 new Enviros have arrived at Cov.
They are 4886 & 4887
4885 just rolled into the depot
Quote from: John on May 17, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 17, 2013, 02:40:09 PM
National Express Coventry have posted photos on their Facebook page of the branding being applied. Red on the 9/9A and a putrid lime green on the 20
For people not on facebook,
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303115_674299545918854_576894260_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/263258_674299529252189_1488621841_n.jpg
I guess the green branding for the Foleshill road is in line with Stagecoach 48 branding which is also green. It may look better when we see it for real.
I do like the shade for the 9.
I take it more have arrived now, and most are nearly ready for service, with the few already out and the rest been branded.
Hadn't realised just how similar the NX branding is to Stagecoach's, the branding on the NX E200s is almost identical in style to the Stagecoach 48. The lime green certainly suits the Stagecoach livery better.
Better quality photo's of NXC branded B7RLE's
2158
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8748002298/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8746885777/in/photostream
2171
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8747994450/in/photostream
2172
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8747991788/in/photostream
2157 out on the 16 today. Got replaced by 4422 at 20 to 6 tonight
I wondered why there wasnt many of the new buses on the road today.
The branding is looking brillient and I think it suits a wright front better than an enviro!! Weldone nx!!
Quote from: John on May 18, 2013, 06:59:02 PM
2157 out on the 16 today. Got replaced by 4422 at 20 to 6 tonight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8750453169/
4422 is parked infront
Quote from: Winston on May 18, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
Better quality photo's of NXC branded B7RLE's
2158
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8748002298/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8746885777/in/photostream
2171
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8747994450/in/photostream
2172
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8747991788/in/photostream
Not sure about the lime green against sky blue but the 9/9A looks good - very Aston Villa.
I see also that 'Styvechale' turned out to be the popular choice of spelling of 'Stivichall'
Quote from: Stu on May 19, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
I see also that 'Styvechale' turned out to be the popular choice of spelling of 'Stivichall'
Funny, I see one earlier this week with " via Stivichall " on front electronic blind. :o
At Heysham Docks yesterday:
National Express West Midlands 2161 - http://smu.gs/12LOdVO
National Express West Midlands 2164 - http://smu.gs/189BShs
National Express West Midlands 2170 - http://smu.gs/12LOg3Y
Credit to the photographer for these photos.
Quote from: JPC on May 19, 2013, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 19, 2013, 10:33:41 AM
I see also that 'Styvechale' turned out to be the popular choice of spelling of 'Stivichall'
Funny, I see one earlier this week with " via Stivichall " on front electronic blind. :o
Maybe they've just programed them all in and it keeps changing throughout
Have any of the omnilinks been transferred out of Coventry yet or is it preference to withdraw some of the older mercs (along with the 2 b6le's that have gone) first. Has it been confirmed for definite where the omnilinks are going.
Quote from: Ash on May 21, 2013, 10:28:44 PM
Have any of the omnilinks been transferred out of Coventry yet or is it preference to withdraw some of the older mercs (along with the 2 b6le's that have gone) first. Has it been confirmed for definite where the omnilinks are going.
Not yet, Scanias will be gone around in June! 9/A has nearly complete B7RLE PVR! 20's has 3 B7RLE and some more B7RLE still order for 20's. When 13 B7RLE start on the 20's tht scanias will leave but only 3 B7RLE moment.
This week Old mercs R & S with old livery still around- 1548,1551,1552,1597,1598,1602,1603,1604,1605,1608,1609,1611 and 1612.
1595,1596, and 1606 hasn't enter service in this week possible to withdrawn?
Scanias still around in this week- 1864,1866,1868,1869,1870,1871,1874,1875,1876
I will try find 1865,1867,1872,1873 on tomz and next friday!
All Scanias were in use today.
1867, 1872 were on 1, all others on 20/A/E except those on unusual workings see appropriate section.
Today, I have been spoken with NXC Inspector in front Bus Station. He say" All mercs still around in coventry expect 1542 are withdrawn and One B6LE at WN and 586 still in garage awaiting for collect it. Start to replace,withdrawn and transferred will be in June."
All the mercs in Coventry are withdrawn very much doubt that even with all the new buses entering service the mercs in NX Coventry livery I would think will remain for now along with any T and V reg Travel Coventry livery mercs.
I take it that 1547 is withdrawn (although still on-site at Coventry possibly) leaving 1548 as the oldest bus still in service?
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 23, 2013, 07:13:18 PM
I take it that 1547 is withdrawn (although still on-site at Coventry possibly) leaving 1548 as the oldest bus still in service?
There was a Travel Coventry liveried Merc at a precarious Angle been worked on in the Miller Street Shed this morning as I was on the 997
Quote from: John on May 23, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 23, 2013, 07:13:18 PM
I take it that 1547 is withdrawn (although still on-site at Coventry possibly) leaving 1548 as the oldest bus still in service?
There was a Travel Coventry liveried Merc at a precarious Angle been worked on in the Miller Street Shed this morning as I was on the 997
I think its was 1542 or 1567! 1547 was working on the 6 6A today!
Quote from: 6013 on May 23, 2013, 07:55:47 PM
Quote from: John on May 23, 2013, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 23, 2013, 07:13:18 PM
I take it that 1547 is withdrawn (although still on-site at Coventry possibly) leaving 1548 as the oldest bus still in service?
There was a Travel Coventry liveried Merc at a precarious Angle been worked on in the Miller Street Shed this morning as I was on the 997
I think its was 1542 or 1567! 1547 was working on the 6 6A today!
1567 left Miller St at the end of 2012 for scrap
Not all mercs going to withdrawn! Engineering has been replace the old logo and fitting the new logo on only R,S,T,V with NX livery!
- Lost 15 Scanias in June and transferred to WA for route on 34/38.
- 2 B6LE to WN.
- Some mercs will additional fleet for changes bus on the 9th June! For e.g- Extra peak times on 5,7 and 23 will be Every 15min but before 26th Feb was Every 30min. 2/3 will extra buses for timekeeping on timetable and 13/A will extra buses for rest in terminate 4-5min.
- On the 9 June- 16/A will full operate on Double decker and Service 10 could get New ADL when the spare will going on the 11/12.
Not sure about 18/A maybe converts to Double Decker????
New timetables now on NXCs website allow the following conclusions are drawn
Services 5 and 7 will still be every 30 minutes providing combined 15 minute service to Coundon.
Same number of buses as now, some workings start earlier to cover for separation of Middlemarch journeys to 27A
Allesley Park retains 15 minute provided by service 23 requiring 3 buses.
Cheylesmore served by routes 2 and 3 each every 20 minutes providing combined 10 min service to Quinton Road - currently 7.5 mns
This will require 5 buses.
Toll Bar End served by route 27 off peak hourly requires 1 bus - currently every 30 mins on route 3A
Overall new 2, 3, 23 and 27 timetables require 9 buses against current 2/3/3A which requires 10 buses.
Route 13 appears to require one more bus in morning peak.
Route 16 journeys which are double deck currently are for specific flows of school traffic.
The 19 journeys need to be double deck but this can be facilitated by interworking buses from other routes.
I'm willing to bet the 27 will get behind time by some way, just like the 3a did.
Quote from: JoNi on May 23, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
New timetables now on NXCs website allow the following conclusions are drawn
Services 5 and 7 will still be every 30 minutes providing combined 15 minute service to Coundon.
Same number of buses as now, some workings start earlier to cover for separation of Middlemarch journeys to 27A
Allesley Park retains 15 minute provided by service 23 requiring 3 buses.
Cheylesmore served by routes 2 and 3 each every 20 minutes providing combined 10 min service to Quinton Road - currently 7.5 mns
This will require 5 buses.
Toll Bar End served by route 27 off peak hourly requires 1 bus - currently every 30 mins on route 3A
Overall new 2, 3, 23 and 27 timetables require 9 buses against current 2/3/3A which requires 10 buses.
Route 13 appears to require one more bus in morning peak.
Route 16 journeys which are double deck currently are for specific flows of school traffic.
The 19 journeys need to be double deck but this can be facilitated by interworking buses from other routes.
Thnx information :-)
Looking at the timetables, it seems that the 27 might well interwork with the 42, as I think was suggested by someone before the timetables were announced, in which case keeping time wouldn't be nearly so difficult.
This would make a lot of sense.
I do worry about just 2 minutes' layover being given at Toll Bar End though: even with the five minutes given on the 3a, that was very often not enough to recover from late running.
Quote from: JoNi on May 23, 2013, 09:37:20 PMThe 19 journeys need to be double deck but this can be facilitated by interworking buses from other routes.
Is this official that the 19 is to be 100% DD-operated?
Quote from: Valandil on May 24, 2013, 11:40:29 AM
Looking at the timetables, it seems that the 27 might well interwork with the 42, as I think was suggested by someone before the timetables were announced, in which case keeping time wouldn't be nearly so difficult.
This would make a lot of sense.
I do worry about just 2 minutes' layover being given at Toll Bar End though: even with the five minutes given on the 3a, that was very often not enough to recover from late running.
Quote from: JoNi on May 23, 2013, 09:37:20 PMThe 19 journeys need to be double deck but this can be facilitated by interworking buses from other routes.
Is this official that the 19 is to be 100% DD-operated?
Not really, In 7am most happen 19 is to be single decker expect can use double decker are not 100% and Evening peak time over 3pm can be seen almost double decker on the 19. Sometime when Double Decker is empty in garage and pick up single decker swap to other route from double decker then double decker go on the school route then peak time 12 route.
SHOCK....
2171 got bit vandalism in rear!!! What i saw boy hold with key crack window make vandalism! It doesn't have vandal pipeline?
Route 19 info is not official, just common sense as the morning single deck buses are usually full. The 08:22 was converted to double deck in last set of changes.
Quote from: 6013 on May 24, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
SHOCK....
2171 got bit vandalism in rear!!! What i saw boy hold with key crack window make vandalism! It doesn't have vandal pipeline?
Eh? ???
Quote from: Stu on May 24, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on May 24, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
SHOCK....
2171 got bit vandalism in rear!!! What i saw boy hold with key crack window make vandalism! It doesn't have vandal pipeline?
Eh? ???
Think they mean somebodys cracked the rear window with a key. Whats a vandal pipeline????
We know the new 2 and 3 will interwork at Fenside for every journey, but it's also interworking with the 23 service during the evenings and on Sundays, but hopefully we will see B7RLEs allocated on Sundays otherwise it's an awful lot of work resetting the route number and destination with roller blinds. ::)
Quote from: JPC on May 24, 2013, 08:14:18 PM
We know the new 2 and 3 will interwork at Fenside for every journey, but it's also interworking with the 23 service during the evenings and on Sundays, but hopefully we will see B7RLEs allocated on Sundays otherwise it's an awful lot of work resetting the route number and destination with roller blinds. ::)
They may just opt to leave the rear and side blinds blank, or just position the rear blind so that it shows the bottom of the '2' and the top of the '3', like they used to with the 128/9
Drivers have shown "9 9A" on the rear they could show "2323"for 2,3,23!.
Seriously it's pretty daft interworking routes 2 and 3 with the 23 as they terminate in different city centre locations, especially as Cheylesmore ends up with a 20/40 minute service in the evenings and on Sundays.
This is undoubtedly because it is a Centro tendered operation to meet the needs of the Finance Department rather than the customer.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 24, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 24, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on May 24, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
SHOCK....
2171 got bit vandalism in rear!!! What i saw boy hold with key crack window make vandalism! It doesn't have vandal pipeline?
Eh? ???
Think they mean somebodys cracked the rear window with a key. Whats a vandal pipeline????
Yeah u correct, New state of the art technology to combat vandals is also in the pipeline, providing hi-tech CCTV equipment triggered by motion detection which capture faces of culprits
Quote from: JoNi on May 24, 2013, 09:46:53 PM
Drivers have shown "9 9A" on the rear they could show "2323"for 2,3,23!.
Seriously it's pretty daft interworking routes 2 and 3 with the 23 as they terminate in different city centre locations, especially as Cheylesmore ends up with a 20/40 minute service in the evenings and on Sundays.
This is undoubtedly because it is a Centro tendered operation to meet the needs of the Finance Department rather than the customer.
I'm hoping the new 2/3 route within the City Centre will be via Quadrant and Corporation Street in both directions, and not via the current 3/3A loop. Longer scheduled dwell time at Trinity St during the core daytime, and the certain journeys interworking service 23 are two reasons why it shouldn't be a big loop in the City centre.
4885 on 11/12 this afternoon.
At Heysham today:
2159 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8842508097
2162 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/8842506983
Credit to the photographer for these.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 24, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 24, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on May 24, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
SHOCK....
2171 got bit vandalism in rear!!! What i saw boy hold with key crack window make vandalism! It doesn't have vandal pipeline?
Eh? ???
Think they mean somebodys cracked the rear window with a key. Whats a vandal pipeline????
The Jeremy Kyle queue?
I've Recorded Vids of 2156 & 2158 on Route 9 this morning here are the links are below
2156
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRld050fb1c
2158
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVz_Ej_-0Hs
Three or Four B7RLE has arrived to Coventry garage!
Despite only a handful of B7s in service so far
20 branded 2172 appeared on 8/9 today with the only 9/A branded B7 2158 appearing on the 20!
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
I hope so :)
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
1644 is due to engine fire damage! Waste money for recently repaint and Retrim/Electronic Display. PE need one buses for fleet.
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
1644 is due to engine fire damage! Waste money for recently repaint and Retrim/Electronic Display. PE need one buses for fleet.
Why 586 though?
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
1644 is due to engine fire damage! Waste money for recently repaint and Retrim/Electronic Display. PE need one buses for fleet.
Why 586 though?
Exactly, it would need repainted into NXWM livery (still blue isn't it?)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 03, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
1644 is due to engine fire damage! Waste money for recently repaint and Retrim/Electronic Display. PE need one buses for fleet.
Why 586 though?
Exactly, it would need repainted into NXWM livery (still blue isn't it?)
It will be repainted anyway, but that would mean WN still end up with just 1 excel still to replace, and PE end up with a midibus replacing a full size one
Matt, 586 would of been needing a repaint into NXWM red colours as i think it is bound for WN o replace 687 (Which i haven't seen since earlier last week so may have been withdrawn).
6013, Why 586 though. Thought you said its going to WN which would make sense.
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:40:28 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 03, 2013, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:43:16 PM
586 will high likely transferred to Pensnett garage for replace 1644?
Why?
1644 is due to engine fire damage! Waste money for recently repaint and Retrim/Electronic Display. PE need one buses for fleet.
Why 586 though?
Exactly, it would need repainted into NXWM livery (still blue isn't it?)
It will be repainted anyway, but that would mean WN still end up with just 1 excel still to replace, and PE end up with a midibus replacing a full size one
Pensnett will need fewer buses from Sunday away due to the frequency reduction on the 222 & shortening of the 289
Tony, I would of thought 586 transfered to WN which i think will happen. I thought it was transferred up with 662 but is still at CV isn't it?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
Matt, 586 would of been needing a repaint into NXWM red colours as i think it is bound for WN o replace 687 (Which i haven't seen since earlier last week so may have been withdrawn).
6013, Why 586 though. Thought you said its going to WN which would make sense.
I think 687 was on the 81 on Friday or Saturday and was on the 27 one of the days too.
Quote from: Andrew on June 03, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
Matt, 586 would of been needing a repaint into NXWM red colours as i think it is bound for WN o replace 687 (Which i haven't seen since earlier last week so may have been withdrawn).
6013, Why 586 though. Thought you said its going to WN which would make sense.
I think 687 was on the 81 on Friday or Saturday and was on the 27 one of the days too.
May have been on the 28 but all i saw was 4542 on there!
Quote from: Andrew on June 03, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
Matt, 586 would of been needing a repaint into NXWM red colours as i think it is bound for WN o replace 687 (Which i haven't seen since earlier last week so may have been withdrawn).
6013, Why 586 though. Thought you said its going to WN which would make sense.
I think 687 was on the 81 on Friday or Saturday and was on the 27 one of the days too.
An Excel in Merry Hill, wish I'd seen that :)
Well Matt you only have to go back a year and you had Excels going to Merry Hill most days on the 81 and sometimes 255 (Sundays)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 10:01:24 PM
Well Matt you only have to go back a year and you had Excels going to Merry Hill most days on the 81 and sometimes 255 (Sundays)
Yes but I wasn't doing this a year back was I ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 03, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 10:01:24 PM
Well Matt you only have to go back a year and you had Excels going to Merry Hill most days on the 81 and sometimes 255 (Sundays)
Yes but I wasn't doing this a year back was I ;)
Actually only as far back as 6 months maybe even less.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 03, 2013, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 10:01:24 PM
Well Matt you only have to go back a year and you had Excels going to Merry Hill most days on the 81 and sometimes 255 (Sundays)
Yes but I wasn't doing this a year back was I ;)
Actually only as far back as 6 months maybe even less.
I had only just started then
Just seen tonys pictures of 4880-84. They look to be getting branding with the front fleet name omitted. Shame to see they have standard seats, it looks as though the leather phase is well and truly over!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 03, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Just seen tonys pictures of 4880-84. They look to be getting branding with the front fleet name omitted.
Just what I was thinking too :)
Go back less than 6 months then :D ;) ;D
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 10:16:08 PM
Go back less than 6 months then :D ;) ;D
They weren't appearing on the 255 or 81 regularly by then though were they :)
586 still at Coventry garage and 586 do in repair area I think for MOTS! I will upload pic for 586 with NXWM Livery this tonight.
* 1609 or 1611 has removed advert for unlimited bus travel around in coventry under £10 for week then stick put on 1595!
Here's an 8(a) branded Enviro in service today:
http://tinyurl.com/newenviro400
Quote from: Valandil on June 04, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
Here's an 8(a) branded Enviro in service today:
http://tinyurl.com/newenviro400
It was 4890
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8951183661/
4885/6/7/8/9/90 all in service seen at pool meadow today..... also 2155/6/7/8 AND 2165 (on the 5e). Also 2167 and 2169.... :o! with 2173 on the foleshill Rd.
Quote from: windy miller on June 04, 2013, 09:28:58 PM
4885/6/7/8/9/90 all in service seen at pool meadow today..... also 2155/6/7/8 AND 2165 (on the 5e). Also 2167 and 2169.... :o! with 2173 on the foleshill Rd.
2171 and 2172 also out on Foleshill Road
Thanks John. I guessed they may have been but I didn't stop long... I think the foleshill Rd services may have a 2hr circuit.?.. Do the foleshill Rd services go through to Nuneaton?... I heard that the bus takes over an hour from Cov to Nuneaton is that right? :-\
Quote from: John on June 04, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Valandil on June 04, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
Here's an 8(a) branded Enviro in service today:
http://tinyurl.com/newenviro400
It was 4890
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8951183661/
I quite like the branding style that has been adopted by NX, so of the earlier attempts were pretty naff, but the latest attempts are pretty smart. NX just seem a bit limited on what colours go well with NXWM red particularly
Quote from: Winston on June 04, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: John on June 04, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Valandil on June 04, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
Here's an 8(a) branded Enviro in service today:
http://tinyurl.com/newenviro400
It was 4890
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8951183661/
I quite like the branding style that has been adopted by NX, so of the earlier attempts were pretty naff, but the latest attempts are pretty smart. NX just seem a bit limited on what colours go well with NXWM red particularly
I think cream would be a good colour against NXWM red
It does seem like in Coventry, that the new buses are all over the place at the minute. New Enviro400s on the 9, 13, 11, 12, plus alongside other Enviro400s on the 21 and the Volvos on the 5 and 10, as well as their intended routes.
They should start to settle down onto their intended routes when all are in service and are branded for their respective routes.
Quote from: windy miller on June 04, 2013, 09:43:56 PM
Thanks John. I guessed they may have been but I didn't stop long... I think the foleshill Rd services may have a 2hr circuit.?.. Do the foleshill Rd services go through to Nuneaton?... I heard that the bus takes over an hour from Cov to Nuneaton is that right? :-\
No, not the NX services, only Stagecoach 48 goes to Nuneaton.
20 to Bedworth, not far from Nuneaton and the 20A to Bell Green
Quote from: windy miller on June 04, 2013, 09:43:56 PM
Thanks John. I guessed they may have been but I didn't stop long... I think the foleshill Rd services may have a 2hr circuit.?.. Do the foleshill Rd services go through to Nuneaton?... I heard that the bus takes over an hour from Cov to Nuneaton is that right? :-\
It's definitely possible to find a bus which takes over an hour to do Coventry - Nuneaton.
Check out the 55 which goes around Keresley (one per hour), taking an hour and ten minutes for the full journey.
valandil... thanks for the info but I would be looking for the Shortest time..I'm wondering if the 20 calls at Bedworth rail station?...and could I catch it at pool meadow? :-\
(the bus I mean not the train :)) ps I cant get any info on a stagecoach '20' service.. And I can't see any google earth Bus stops anywhere near Bedworth rail station?..(King street)? maybe they all use a ring and ride service...............
Oh right!
Erm, sorry about that then.
For general quickness and accessibility, Stagecoach's 48 is the best to travel from Coventry to Nuneaton.
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/PdfUploads/Timetable_32060_48.pdf
The service is every 10 minutes and the journey takes 45 minutes.
The confusing thing is that the 48 will most likely be displaying 'Atherstone' or 'Leicester'.
If you see a bus with 'Nuneaton' on the front (a 55 or 56) then it will get you there, but using a much more convoluted (though more interesting) route.
The 20 is run by National Express Coventry and goes near to Bedworth train station, but not quite to it.
The timetable is here: http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C020_22Apr12.pdf
It runs every 10 minutes during the day.
Don't catch the 20a or 20e though, as you won't end up in Bedworth! :D
Your best bet is to get off at Bedworth town centre (the bus stop is next to a huge Iceland) and follow http://goo.gl/maps/0u7Cy
This isn't the quickest way to get there, but it's probably for the best than advising you to get off at an obscure stop and giving an even more obscure route to the station!
All of the above can be caught in Trinity Street Coventry.
There's still some Coventry b7rle' stored at hartshornes willenhall.
Quote from: Valandil on June 05, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
Oh right!
Erm, sorry about that then.
For general quickness and accessibility, Stagecoach's 48 is the best to travel from Coventry to Nuneaton.
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/PdfUploads/Timetable_32060_48.pdf
The service is every 10 minutes and the journey takes 45 minutes.
The confusing thing is that the 48 will most likely be displaying 'Atherstone' or 'Leicester'.
If you see a bus with 'Nuneaton' on the front (a 55 or 56) then it will get you there, but using a much more convoluted (though more interesting) route.
The 20 is run by National Express Coventry and goes near to Bedworth train station, but not quite to it.
The timetable is here: http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C020_22Apr12.pdf
It runs every 10 minutes during the day.
Don't catch the 20a or 20e though, as you won't end up in Bedworth! :D
Your best bet is to get off at Bedworth town centre (the bus stop is next to a huge Iceland) and follow http://goo.gl/maps/0u7Cy
This isn't the quickest way to get there, but it's probably for the best than advising you to get off at an obscure stop and giving an even more obscure route to the station!
All of the above can be caught in Trinity Street Coventry.
The 20A was numbered 40 until Feb 2012, matching other Foleshill Rd services ending in '0' - looked and sounded better if you ask me and avoided any potential confusion.
Quote from: pb2012 on June 05, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
There's still some Coventry b7rle' stored at hartshornes willenhall.
how many of the B&RLE' are stil stored at hartshorne & i take it they will all be here for 9 june when tjhe coventry changes happen
Thanks for the info Verandil....There is a Decker that runs to leicester every hour from pool meadow but I don't think it goes anywhere near bedworth...it Probably takes the London road route out and goes via Hinckley.
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 06, 2013, 12:09:26 AMThe 20A was numbered 40 until Feb 2012, matching other Foleshill Rd services ending in '0' - looked and sounded better if you ask me and avoided any potential confusion.
I agree that they should have different numbers, but wasn't keen on them being so far apart with other numbers in between, e.g. 21, 32, 33, 36.
It would be much better in my opinion if they were just plain old consecutive numbers like 70, 71 and 72.
Though I could understand the 20e being say 70a as it is pretty much just a 'short' 20 which uses the loop to turn around.
By the way, not that many people seem to get on around the Oban Road area on the 20e in my experience.
Wouldn't it have been feasible to run one of these journeys per hour (or half hour) straight up Foleshill and on to Hawkesbury, to avoid all of the negative press involved and eventual removal of a service to the city centre: I'm sure they'd get at least an equal number of passengers.
So to clarify, the only coventry Mercs withdrawn so far are 1542 1609 and 1611? The rest are active are they?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 07, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
So to clarify, the only coventry Mercs withdrawn so far are 1542 1609 and 1611? The rest are active are they?
Yes 1542/1609/11 to withdrawn! 1605 hasn't service this week mean could be withdrawn??
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 07, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
So to clarify, the only coventry Mercs withdrawn so far are 1542 1609 and 1611? The rest are active are they?
Are they withdrawn withdrawn or might they see service elsewhere, I could see at least 1 or 2 of the best ones ending up at PE with the rate of breakdowns/fires happening
The three mentioned above are withdrawn. Im now back on home turf and want to go and get photos of the full set before more go which is imminent
Did 'Stivichall' win the spelling competition?
From what I saw, 'Styvechale' was far more popular, so I'm surprised to see NXC using 'Stivichall' so much.
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
So far it has been Styvechale on the branding and Stivichall on electronic displays ::) But the electronic displays will hopefully be updated to Styvechale today to tie in with the service changes elsewhere.
Quote from: Valandil on June 08, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Did 'Stivichall' win the spelling competition?
From what I saw, 'Styvechale' was far more popular, so I'm surprised to see NXC using 'Stivichall' so much.
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
caught 1596 yesterday, was in very good condition
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
I'm pretty sure the T and V reg ones will see out service at another garage surely, especially considering PE and WB still have a good number of R and S reg ones rattiling along
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on June 09, 2013, 12:51:56 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
I'm pretty sure the T and V reg ones will see out service at another garage surely, especially considering PE and WB still have a good number of R and S reg ones rattiling along
Matt,
NXC currently have 10 x E400's + 23 x B7RLE entering service = 33 new buses in total, however, they are loosing 15 x 58 plate Omnilinks in the process to a NXWM garage. That will result in a nett gain of only 18 new buses @ NXC, as they currently have a fleet of 41 x Mercs & 1 x B6LE, only around half the current Merc fleet will be replaced at most. I expect the best of the R & S reg batches will be retained by NXC along with all the T & V-reg ones currently allocated
I would have thought that NXC will retain some Mercs even after the new E400's & B7RLE's have all entered service. NXC currently have 41 x Mercs
I just wrote all the ones I saw. Yesterday for journeys out of those i had 1547 1552 1563 1568 1591 1608 1625 and 1655. Id still love to know why WN sent this to WB before CV. 1608 im predicting is one to get the chop as that sounded a bit rough.
Think 1605 1606 and 1612 may have been withdrawn.
Think iv nearly got all the coventry mercs photographed now
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
I have spoken with NXC inspector in last two week ago! He say" Only Mercs with old livery will start to withdrawn and Mercs with NXC livery on R S T V Reg will stay life!"
Today,
Old travel Coventry Livery on mercs still running in coventry - 1547,1557,1551,1552,1595,1596,1597,1598,1602,1603,1604, and 1608.
*1557 has first enter on the new route is 27/A!
* I catch on 1608 this morning was fine and no problem engine.
I will try find is 1605, 1606 and 1612 at tomorrow.
Do you know which other vehicles were on the 27(a) today?
Today
1557 operated on the 27 and E400 branded 21 on the 27A with peak times. And Today No E400 on the 7 like End!
Service 42 is operate mercs at now!
Quote from: 6013 on June 10, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
Today
1557 operated on the 27 and E400 branded 21 on the 27A with peak times. And Today No E400 on the 7 like End!
Service 42 is operate mercs at now!
Was the 42 trident operated previously?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 10, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
Was the 42 trident operated previously?
The majority of buses on the 42 were double decker, Trident/B7TL ALX400s.
Crept up from Solos to Tridents with still a similar level of usage
The 42 was double deck operated because it did schools before and after, it now does 12's 42's and 27a's
2174-6 were at Heysham on 9th June
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
Red highlighted in service today, seen in about an hour's observation @ Pool Meadow, plus 1557, 1558, 1570, 1571, 1594, 1598, 1610, 1635, 1659.
New vehicles seen: 2155-58, 2165, 2168/69, 2171-73 and 4885-88, 4890/91/93/94.
Still no sign of 4831/39, which keep avoiding me !! ;D
Quote from: Ossie on June 12, 2013, 02:09:53 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 09, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
Mercs in service in cov (8th june)
1547 1548 1551 1552 1563 1564 1566 1568 1591 1595 1596 1597 1604 1608 1625 1634 1636 1655 1656 1703, May have missed a few but i had a thought in my mind of some of these could be on death row by tomorrow
Red highlighted in service today, seen in about an hour's observation @ Pool Meadow, plus 1557, 1558, 1570, 1571, 1594, 1598, 1610, 1635, 1659.
New vehicles seen: 2155-58, 2165, 2168/69, 2171-73 and 4885-88, 4890/91/93/94.
Still no sign of 4831/39, which keep avoiding me !! ;D
1655 working on the 20's! 1602 nd 1603 was working on the 20's
Side by side
both types of new buses
Quote from: Tony on June 12, 2013, 08:36:42 PM
Side by side
both types of new buses
That's another picture that will be going on flickr by Birmingham Airport 2011. As he has loads off your site already. >:(
Nice photo :)
2166 has first enter the service on the 11/12 and too busy for single decker! 2166 working in all day and this morning has been extra single decker is 1602 because 2166 has not enough more seats but Double decker hasn't enough in garage! 1602 was working on the 12 with extra peak time on 2166.
- Morning- 1602 on the 12 route then working on the 42 in all day!
I've never known a garge put on a duplicate before. Was 1602 really sent out because 2166 didn't have enough room?
Yes what i means ;) and 1602 nd 2166 was working same from Bus station leave at 07:50 but 1602 terminate at University then working on 42 and 2166 carry to Leamington Spa. Morning and Afternoon peaks are very busy!
Prefer the mirrors on the decker then the single.
Quote from: 6013 on June 14, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Yes what i means ;) and 1602 nd 2166 was working same from Bus station leave at 07:50 but 1602 terminate at University then working on 42 and 2166 carry to Leamington Spa. Morning and Afternoon peaks are very busy!
It sounds like they're on different workings and they just happened to leave Pool Meadow at the same time due to the many reasons NXC seem to have for journeys running late and even, in cases such as this, beginning late.
It is very common for bunching to happen on the 11/12, and in some cases this is even timetabled: for instance two vehicles are scheduled to depart Earlsdon City Arms towards the University at 0842, Monday-Friday.
Unless you're absolutely certain that NXC put an extra vehicle on?
It sounds like the 42 is intended to be single-deck-operated once again, which would mean the 12's it interworks with would always be single-deck.
If management really do think that single-deckers have to be assigned duplicates on this particular working, then logically it would have to see two vehicles every day.
Yes!
Because there are Not enough double decker in garage! 07:42- 4695 was turn on time! and working on the 12 and 07:50- 1602 for short route from Cov to Uni and 2166 for normal.
Quote from: 6013 on June 14, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Yes!
Because there are Not enough double decker in garage! 07:42- 4695 was turn on time! and working on the 12 and 07:50- 1602 for short route from Cov to Uni and 2166 for normal.
How can NXC not have enough double deckers in the garage? They've just had 10 extra brand new ones.....
Quote from: Winston on June 14, 2013, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 14, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Yes!
Because there are Not enough double decker in garage! 07:42- 4695 was turn on time! and working on the 12 and 07:50- 1602 for short route from Cov to Uni and 2166 for normal.
How can NXC not have enough double deckers in the garage? They've just had 10 extra brand new ones.....
Because other Double Decker on the 4 and 3-4 Bendi in the garage. 4830,4831, and 4889 on the 11/12. One Trident on 18/A.
Winston, You can see some Double Decker in repair area for repair something fault.
In 10am, Saw only 6 Double Decker in garage for school routes and 11/12 peak times but Yesterday lots a double decker in garage around 10am.
Quote from: 6013 on June 14, 2013, 04:42:39 PMBecause there are Not enough double decker in garage! 07:42- 4695 was turn on time! and working on the 12 and 07:50- 1602 for short route from Cov to Uni and 2166 for normal.
Hmm, that is an interesting state of affairs!
I have seen the inspectors about a bit on routes 11/12 lately, and two were actually travelling on a Merc on the route until it became full, at which point they jumped off, assumedly to assess how much inconvenience is caused to those who would be on the vehicle if it had had two decks.
Or maybe I'm reading too much into it and they were just freeing up space for intending passengers!
2157 was on the 1 today:
http://tinypic.com/r/2m4tzd3/5
As far as I have seen, it's the first day for an Eclipse to be on the 1.
But I haven't seen the 1 for a while, so I could be wrong about that.
Quote from: Valandil on June 14, 2013, 06:13:10 PM
2157 was on the 1 today:
http://tinypic.com/r/2m4tzd3/5
As far as I have seen, it's the first day for an Eclipse to be on the 1.
But I haven't seen the 1 for a while, so I could be wrong about that.
Nice photo, but looks like a bit of over-exposure on the white of the bus.
Quote from: The Rat on June 14, 2013, 06:15:12 PMNice photo, but looks like a bit of over-exposure on the white of the bus.
I completely agree with you: after noticing the vehicle and reaching for my camera, I literally only had time to turn it on and press the shutter button!
Quote from: Valandil on June 14, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 14, 2013, 06:15:12 PMNice photo, but looks like a bit of over-exposure on the white of the bus.
I completely agree with you: after noticing the vehicle and reaching for my camera, I literally only had time to turn it on and press the shutter button!
I know exactly what you mean. Its always annoying when you see something and wish you had the camera out but you know if you get it out the shot has gone. :(
I'm going to try and get a bit of auto-exposure on Photoshop. Hell, if its any good I'll upload it again, if its OK with you?
Almost B7RLE has already arrived to Coventry garage around days of ago! So Only 2174-2177 still ordering.
Quote from: 6013 on June 27, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
Almost B7RLE has already arrived to Coventry garage around days of ago! So Only 2174-2177 still ordering.
Not correct, 2174 and 2177 are at Coventry, 2170 is not, see photograph of 2170 on main site taken today
The new CV B7RLE batch... can we assume that the remaining 2159/61/62/63/70/75/and 2176 are either at heysham or hartshornes? :-\
Quote from: windy miller on June 28, 2013, 02:11:51 AM
The new CV B7RLE batch... can we assume that the remaining 2159/61/62/63/70/75/and 2176 are either at heysham or hartshornes? :-\
No, all are at Coventry except 2170/5/6 which have yet to move from Hartshornes
I saw 2159-2161/2163-2164 in Coventry city centre on Tuesday
Tony, Where is 2177??? 2177 hasn't in Coventry or Willenhall yet!
Strange because when I was at Hartshornes yesterday I was talking to my friend from Wrights and he was on his way to Coventry to check something on2177 which moved from there to Coventry the day before
Quote from: 6013 on June 28, 2013, 12:11:06 PM
Tony, Where is 2177??? 2177 hasn't in Coventry or Willenhall yet!
2177 was in Pool Meadow at 16.45 today (Friday 28th June).
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 28, 2013, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 28, 2013, 12:11:06 PM
Tony, Where is 2177??? 2177 hasn't in Coventry or Willenhall yet!
2177 was in Pool Meadow at 16.45 today (Friday 28th June).
I know, It was Not In Service in Pool Meadow stand M! 2177 is first enter service on Yesterday.
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 28, 2013, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 28, 2013, 12:11:06 PM
Tony, Where is 2177??? 2177 hasn't in Coventry or Willenhall yet!
2177 was in Pool Meadow at 16.45 today (Friday 28th June).
I know, It was Not In Service in Pool Meadow stand M! 2177 is first enter service on Yesterday.
I have now photographed all 23 so they are all definately in the West Midlands, This photo with both brandings came out nice
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2168.html
CV this afternoon...(Tuesday) 2175 and 2176 both on the 9...2170/77 not seen
Is there any further info on whether or not 2153 will remain at NXC permanently & be repainted in to NXC colours?
All of B7RLE has been enter expect 2170 hasn't yet service!! 2170 didn't arrive to Coventry garage yet!
Quote from: 6013 on July 18, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
All of B7RLE has been enter expect 2170 hasn't yet service!! 2170 didn't arrive to Coventry garage yet!
2170 IS in Coventry, travelled on it twice today on service 20
Quote from: NXCOV21 on July 19, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 18, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
All of B7RLE has been enter expect 2170 hasn't yet service!! 2170 didn't arrive to Coventry garage yet!
2170 IS in Coventry, travelled on it twice today on service 20
Yes, I have been posted on other tread:- http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.1320
Some people tried to add a bit to the 8(a) livery on the protest about moving the city's football club from the stadium:
http://gyazo.com/b8f361bfb49674fa336ffc3697ee08f2.png
(Credit to whoever took this photo).