Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[MasterPlan]

The X21 is extended, so running time will most definitely be longer. It should hopefully balance out to a roughly 10 minute gap by the time they reach University Station.

The 61/3 departs around the same time from the Frankley Terminus (previously looking at the timetable).

Ah yeah, X21 journeys appear to take roughly 7 minutes longer. They are timetabled every 10 mins at the station.

[Westy]

It would be during the week, as I don't think the 'office' teams work at weekends.

The later this is left, the worse the arguments will be.


Many people may be on 'summer holidays' themselves, so like I said, some good advance notice would be handy, so that people can plan and make changes to their normal travelling routine well ahead of September.

I've given the Facebook group I'm a member of, the heads up of what I've learned so far for Walsall, with the disclaimer to wait for the official NX info to pop up, but it seems strange how TfWM(bearing in mind they haven't published their weekly service changes for ages, due to the pandemic!) can publish their information online & yet NX hasn't even made any comment publicly.

The only thing known so far, as far as passengers are concerned, is the notice on Diamond buses promoting their 'change'  to the Partnership routes!

[BK63 YWP]

4540 route learning rerouted 27 and 7

[karl724223]

Nx have told me all the changes   Just saying 😂

[Jack D]

Nx have told me all the changes   Just saying 😂

How and can you tell us this info?

[BBS]

I seen a Gemini 1 price branded on formans road not sure if its route learning or etc

[SK68MEV]

1874 seen route learning new 96 route through shard end

[Steve3229vp]

This is getting ridiculous, these changes start in 13 days time and still nothing on the website !

[mesub]

How and can you tell us this info?

Karl works for them.

[PB2938]

This is getting ridiculous, these changes start in 13 days time and still nothing on the website !

Late notice to stop protesting and objecting to local councillers and mps.

[2206]

Late notice to stop protesting and objecting to local councillers and mps.

That's ridiculous
They should give plenty of notice to passengers so people are aware the changes are going ahead in just under 2 weeks time and have time to plan and change there journeys. And there should also have notices onboard including the ones people can take with them.

At this rate they'll probably announce them up the evening before they start.

[OH25]

That's ridiculous
They should give plenty of notice to passengers so people are aware the changes are going ahead in September and have time to plan and change there journeys. And there should also have notices onboard including the ones people can take with them.

well National Express have the monopoly anyway so you would just have to deal with it and adapt to the changes

[Dom]

That's ridiculous
They should give plenty of notice to passengers so people are aware the changes are going ahead in just under 2 weeks time and have time to plan and change there journeys. And there should also have notices onboard including the ones people can take with them.

At this rate they'll probably announce them up the evening before they start.

Bit of a daft comment.

The last few changes have been announced 9 days before, which in all fairness is plenty of time. I'd expect it this Friday.

[2206]

Bit of a daft comment.

Its not, as they don't seem to be able to get their act together and publish the changes. People will want to know the changes, well in advance. And there will need to be notices/flyers onboard buses which aren't in place yet so the  people who don't check the NX website including elderly, etc are aware.

And the changes will probably go down a lot better if people know what is happening in advance, which was my point.

[Mike K]

One thing that's apparent is that since the redevelopment of the QE, and the changes to the south west Birmingham routes that have happened ever since, NX still hasn't produced a network that has worked and lasted for long.

The X64 underwent a farcical amount of changes before being replaced by the X21, which, ironically, will soon be very similar to one of the iterations of the X64. The replacement for the old 21 between Harborne Green Man, the QE and Bartley Green has chopped and changed repeatedly. The 48 is now not far behind the old x64 in the number of times the route after the QE has changed. The 27 has been repeatedly tinkered with, the section of the old 29 route between Harborne and Northfield has already changed twice, and the bus route along Black Haynes Road changes more often than some people change their underwear.

The routes for the X21, X22 and 23 around Bartley Green, in an attempt to serve as many roads as possible, require a Geography degree to understand what goes where and in which direction.

I appreciate that the latest changes have been brought on by a drop in passenger numbers and revenue due to COVID, but if I lived along the impacted routes (my section of the 23 hasn't changed and works well), and used them regularly, I'd be pretty fed up with it all by now.