Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[Tony]

Still confused why AG got the 46 when YW should have it fully.

How do you know once garage could do it more efficiently when you don't even know the details of how it is going to run?

[Steve3229vp]

It's not confirmed who's got either, until confirmed fully take info without evidence with a pinch of salt

On the Traveline timetable it does state that it is operated by Acocks Green garage.

[gc802002]

As for the 46, while this is shown as operated from Acocks Green garage, as the Sunday journeys only operate between Northfield and Cotteridge/Kings Norton, I wouldn't be surprised if Yardley Wood operated those journeys, would make more sense to me.

Sunday 46 to Interwork with 27 perhaps?

[mesub]

Just a thought but with the X21 now going to Bartley Green, the 23 could return to its old line of route avoiding having buses to Birmingham stopping on opposite sides of the road on Romsley Road.

I had a hard think about it a while ago and it's just not possible due to the layout of Bartley Green and the surrounding areas. It would be hard to serve Newman University and still serve the majority of stops that it uses and also have the Romsley Road stops the "right" way without cutting stops out or looping around (which would cause even more confusion than it does currently).

I'm glad the X21 will now go by Newman University, that link shouldn't have gone in the first place.

One weird thing I noticed on the map though is that it's showing the X21 going a different way inbound than outbound along Cromwell Lane. Turning right onto Moors Lane then Briidgburn Road and Farwood Road. That doesn't seem right. Surely it would just go all the way down Cromwell Lane and turn right onto Woodcock Lane.

I'm not that sure, but wouldn't that side of woodcock lane be slightly harder to manoeuvre? (Compared to now)

[MW]

Still confused why AG got the 46 when YW should have it fully.

How would drivers get to the QE / Northfield to takeover from YW? They'd have to travel which the company pays for. There's no driver travelling time if it's operated by AG. Driver relief points are right outside AG depot.

Think of the 46 as the 1A extended to Northfield. Only difference being it changes numbers at QE.

[MasterPlan]

I'm not that sure, but wouldn't that side of woodcock lane be slightly harder to manoeuvre? (Compared to now)

Possibly might be difficult but I can't see Bridgeburn Road and Farwood Road being any better really.

[BBS]

How would drivers get to the QE / Northfield to takeover from YW? They'd have to travel which the company pays for. There's no driver travelling time if it's operated by AG. Driver relief points are right outside AG depot.

Think of the 46 as the 1A extended to Northfield. Only difference being it changes numbers at QE.

oh right

[Stu]

Sunday 46 to Interwork with 27 perhaps?

I can't see how that would be possible as neither route shares a common terminus point.

[Stu]

So August 29th is just over two weeks away now, and still NOTHING officially published on NXWM or NXC websites.

I really hope that something will be announced in the next week, otherwise it is all going to end up being left to the last minute, with passengers given little opportunity to make adjustments to their travel arrangements if needed.

[Steve3229vp]

So August 29th is just over two weeks away now, and still NOTHING officially published on NXWM or NXC websites.

I really hope that something will be announced in the next week, otherwise it is all going to end up being left to the last minute, with passengers given little opportunity to make adjustments to their travel arrangements if needed.

I agree entirely, the timetables have been available on Traveline for nearly a week now, there is no reason for NXM not to publish these changes. I'm expecting them to come out on Sunday evening.

[Westy]

Intrigued that the Walsall 31 & 32 timetables on TfWM site are still the current ones.

Even the supposed link to the new timetable doesn't work properly, as it's still a joint timetable rather than separate by operator.

(And these were the first ones flagged up, albeit by Diamond, who have promoted leaving the partnership & it's associated changes. Nothing on the NX Walsall vehicles I've caught yet.

Day 1 will be interesting, with the arguments between passenger & driver about ticket validity!)

[Stu]

I'm expecting them to come out on Sunday evening.

It would be during the week, as I don't think the 'office' teams work at weekends.

Day 1 will be interesting, with the arguments between passenger & driver about ticket validity!)

The later this is left, the worse the arguments will be.


Many people may be on 'summer holidays' themselves, so like I said, some good advance notice would be handy, so that people can plan and make changes to their normal travelling routine well ahead of September.

[PB2938]

YW 27 will interwork with the 20

AG new service 41 replacing 1A will interwork with the 46

[MasterPlan]

It's probably a stupid question, but looking at the timetables on Traveline, the X21 and X22 are scheduled to leave at the same time or thereabouts from Field Lane each time, why is that?

[mesub]

It's probably a stupid question, but looking at the timetables on Traveline, the X21 and X22 are scheduled to leave at the same time or thereabouts from Field Lane each time, why is that?

The X21 is extended, so running time will most definitely be longer. It should hopefully balance out to a roughly 10 minute gap by the time they reach University Station.

The 61/3 departs around the same time from the Frankley Terminus (previously looking at the timetable).