Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[ellspurs]

Not on the 96 route towards Erdington no. From Bucklands End it goes left out of Heathland Avenue so next stop is the M6 Island.
The 56 used to go up Heathland Ave as well.

Sorry I got it confused with Heath Way.

Hopefully sense will prevail and TfWM will add some bus stops in at the places that need them.

[Steveminor]

I note nx are now letting people know the partnership routes are coming to an end

[MasterPlan]

So is the 48 running direct from QE to weoley castle now then? Also on the changes they state passengers on the 20 can change onto the x21/x22 at QE hospital. The X21/X22 aren't serving QE hospital?

The QE is a 2 min walk away from Uni Station. As far as bus stop transitions go the other option would maybe he the X21 at New Fosse Way.

[Trident 4194]

I note nx are now letting people know the partnership routes are coming to an end

Will be interesting to see how quickly buses get debranded

[mesub]

Looking at the new services:
20 to be operated by YW
46 to be operated by AG


The 48 seems to be serving Weoley Castle and then Northfield.

The only issue I find with the X21 extension (heading outbound) is that, due to the way stops are placed in Bartley Green, there's a large stop distance between the Jiggins Lane stop and the Carmel Grove one, so the Adams Hill/Romsley Road Junction isn't being served.
That being said though, there's only a few stops left anyway and there are plenty of other routes you could use to get to Field Lane (or just walk it!).

These new routes seem to avoid the city centre, so no clean air zone. I wonder what vehicles will be allocated?

[2206]

These new routes seem to avoid the city centre, so no clean air zone. I wonder what vehicles will be allocated?

Very likely:
20 Scania.
41/46 B7TL.
X21/X22 Platinum.

[Westy]

Will be interesting to see how quickly buses get debranded

As I've said before, Diamond will have the most work with the debranding, certainly with the 31 / 32, as they'll have to remove reference to the 32 for starters as well as the 'every 3 mins' frequency.

All Nx will have to do is change the frequency.

I assume both companies are keeping their own £2.50 return fare?

Repainting is another matter presumbly.

Incidently, it looks like NX have 'inherited' those early Sunday morning journeys from Diamond, which makes sense with them being run from the nearest depot on route, rather than a depot miles away, but I'm surprised they haven't been partly incorparated into those early Sunday X51 journeys.

[Bob]

Will there be any buses from Moor St up to Bath Row from the 29th august? I currently get off the X51 and jump on one of the X2×× buses cant remember which

[2206]

Will there be any buses from Moor St up to Bath Row from the 29th august? I currently get off the X51 and jump on one of the X2×× buses cant remember which

Yes. X21/X22 will still run, both take the same route City Centre to University via Bath Row.

(X20 will no longer run)

[BBS]

Looking at the new services:
20 to be operated by YW
46 to be operated by AG


The 48 seems to be serving Weoley Castle and then Northfield.

The only issue I find with the X21 extension (heading outbound) is that, due to the way stops are placed in Bartley Green, there's a large stop distance between the Jiggins Lane stop and the Carmel Grove one, so the Adams Hill/Romsley Road Junction isn't being served.
That being said though, there's only a few stops left anyway and there are plenty of other routes you could use to get to Field Lane (or just walk it!).

These new routes seem to avoid the city centre, so no clean air zone. I wonder what vehicles will be allocated?

Knowing AG and routes that dont go to birmingham ( Double decker routes ), its likely they will just allocate the routes with gemini and ALX400.

[2206]

With the new timetable does the 51S service change to the 51 when it gets to City Centre? Timetable says morning journey withdrawn.
Variation appeared for 51S on the DVSA site today.

Reason I was wondering is its not marked on the timetable that it changes onto 51, but if it didn't then surely it would be incorporated into the normal service timetables from Edgbaston Park Road into town/not numbered 51.

Would have thought 11S would be brought back under the 11A timetable as well (as 11A to Perry Barr), as it clearly then operates 15:54 11A Ward End to Perry Barr.

[Jack D]

94 seems to be very highly platinum based buses over the last few weeks with the withdrawal of parts of the Sutton routes and the X20 could we see 94/95 be platinum operated??

[Gareth]

94 seems to be very highly platinum based buses over the last few weeks with the withdrawal of parts of the Sutton routes and the X20 could we see 94/95 be platinum operated??

I don't think there's anywhere near enough 'spare' platinums to be used on a combined 4 minute frequency over both routes. And where do all the red ones go?

[Tony]

I don't think there's anywhere near enough 'spare' platinums to be used on a combined 4 minute frequency over both routes. And where do all the red ones go?

Plenty spare during school holidays with reduced running times which is why yyou see them now, but as gareth says different in two weeks time

[Sh4318]

I heard 12/A & 13/A are to be solely operated by PE with the 12/A mirroring 13/A up Portland Road & City Road, not sure about frequencies

Do PE have enough buses to run all four routes? I can see an abundance of B7RLE flooding the routes