Service Changes August 29th 2021.

[SO6597]

I'm confused, the 48 currently goes via Bourneville, Cotteridge, Hawkesley and Turves Green?

The new 46 is replacing the the section of route between QE and Northfield, operated by AG according to the timetable so looks like it's interworking with the new 41.

[Jack D]

Will we see joint branding for X12/13 and 94/95?

[Steve3229vp]

Will we see joint branding for X12/13 and 94/95?

I doubt it, the X12/X13/94 serve Castle Bromwich but the 95 doesn't and even though they all serve Chelmsley Wood but the X13 is indirect.

[Steve3229vp]

Nothing's been confirmed yet (despite it only being 17 days away) but it sounds like from Selly Oak it will go down Gibbins Road and then follow the X21 to Weoley Castle Square, then as it does currently to Northfield.

I can't imagine the route between Weoley Castle and Northfield will change.

The 48 has been confirmed, here is the timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__000024ae_TP.pdf
Here is the map http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:33048:S:H:y11:5:5::1:21&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV

[2206]

I doubt it, the X12/X13/94 serve Castle Bromwich but the 95 doesn't and even though they all serve Chelmsley Wood but the X13 is indirect.

He probably means separate joint X12/X13 branding and joint 94/95 branding.

94/95  corridor could be branded as City Centre to Ward End every 4 mins. Like the joint 23/24 corridor City Centre to Harborne branding possibly.
And X12/X13 corridor could receive separate branding to it.

[Steve3229vp]

He probably means separate joint X12/X13 branding and joint 94/95 branding.

94/95  corridor could be branded as City Centre to Ward End every 4 mins. Like the joint 23/24 corridor City Centre to Harborne branding possibly.
And X12/X13 corridor could receive separate branding to it.

To maximise branding why not brand them as 'Chelmsley Network', then they could include the 14 and 97 as well

[2206]

To maximise branding why not brand them as 'Chelmsley Network', then they could include the 14 and 97 as well

That wouldn't promote where they go in between.
As the 97 goes past other important places like Heartlands Hospital etc, 14 serves the Alum Rock Road, 94/95 serve Ward End & Washwood Heath and X12/X13 are Fast to Castle Bromwich and serve Coleshill, Airport, Solihull, etc.

[Steve3229vp]

X21 - Extended to Woodgate (X22 terminus) X22 - route unchanged
Both every 20 minutes each as they are now (now every 10 minutes City-University) the AM peaks are up to every 15 minutes each

X21 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00003eb7_TP.pdf
X22 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00006ab0_TP.pdf

[MasterPlan]

X21 - Extended to Woodgate (X22 terminus) X22 - route unchanged
Both every 20 minutes each as they are now (now every 10 minutes City-University) the AM peaks are up to every 15 minutes each

X21 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00003eb7_TP.pdf
X22 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00006ab0_TP.pdf

The link isn't working. Every 10 minutes combined is going to cause a problem when the students go back to the Uni fully.

Also if the new terminus is Woodgate, what was the point of another registration change just to alter the terminus point from Woodgate to Bartley Green?

The new timetable on Traveline shows it using Gregory Rd/Middle Park Rd/Swarthmore Rd between Weoley Castle and Northfield.

If you mean Gregory Avenue, it won't serve that road. But yes, that's the way it goes now anyway which is what I said.

The 48 has been confirmed, here is the timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__000024ae_TP.pdf
Here is the map http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:33048:S:H:y11:5:5::1:21&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV

My apologies, I meant confirmed by NX on their website for the public who won't know about these other sites...

[2206]

The link isn't working. Every 10 minutes combined is going to cause a problem when the students go back to the Uni fully.

Also if the new terminus is Woodgate, what was the point of another registration change just to alter the terminus point from Woodgate to Bartley Green?

Also its being routed along Woodcock Lane and Cromwell Lane in both directions it appears.

[Kevin]

X21 - Extended to Woodgate (X22 terminus) X22 - route unchanged
Both every 20 minutes each as they are now (now every 10 minutes City-University) the AM peaks are up to every 15 minutes each

X21 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00003eb7_TP.pdf
X22 - timetable http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/EFA03__00006ab0_TP.pdf

Interesting choice of route for the X21, up Field Lane to the main Bartley Green stops then down Romsley Road / Adams Hill to the Woodgate terminus. means city bound X21 & X22 stop on opposite sides of Romsley Road to each other

[bususer28]

To be honest, except for the odd cut here and there, the changes aren't as broad as I thought they were going to be.

[Trident 4194]

Interesting choice of route for the X21, up Field Lane to the main Bartley Green stops then down Romsley Road / Adams Hill to the Woodgate terminus. means city bound X21 & X22 stop on opposite sides of Romsley Road to each other

So will the X21 do same route as 002 between Weoley castle and Bartley green?

[2206]

So will the X21 do same route as 002 between Weoley castle and Bartley green?

No.

[Sh4318]

The 12 running every half an hour to Dudley in the evenings is an interesting change, I didn't realise the Oldbury to Dudley section of the route was that busy in the evening

The 12, 12A, 13 & 13A timetables look much more in sync.

I guess this is down to the 13 & 13A not having to solely carry the Portland Road/City Road burden