West Dudley Consultation

[Jack6101]

The locals are on the war path.... lol
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/08/13/campaigners-queuing-up-to-show-anger-at-bus-service-shake-up/

And half of them don't
Even use the buses

[Stu]

The locals are on the war path.... lol
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/08/13/campaigners-queuing-up-to-show-anger-at-bus-service-shake-up/

Again, I fail to see the need for a petition at this stage while these changes are still up for consultation.

TAKE PART IN THE CONSULTATION AND COMPLETE THE SURVEY!

I bet most of these people rarely use the bus anyway.

I seem to recall some kind of 'anger' from passengers at changes elsewhere in Dudley a couple of years ago - NX gave in and amended a service to suit them, then withdrew it a few months later due to 'lack of use'.

[MasterPlan]

Again, I fail to see the need for a petition at this stage while these changes are still up for consultation.

TAKE PART IN THE CONSULTATION AND COMPLETE THE SURVEY!

Probably because they know that regardless of what they say in the 'consultation' NX will go ahead with these suggestions anyway.

[BH2004]

Probably because they know that regardless of what they say in the 'consultation' NX will go ahead with these suggestions anyway.

The survey finished last Friday so there is no point trying to get them to stop the changes

[winston]

The survey finished last Friday so there is no point trying to get them to stop the changes

Of course there is, the changes are still 'proposals' at the moment & haven't been registered with TC yet.

[JoNi]

The survey finished last Friday so there is no point trying to get them to stop the changes

Knowing who "them" are would be a good starting point, obviously knowing who your local councillors responsible for transport and MP is easy to find out.

[TinnedPeaches]

Having read the points in the article, I know for a fact that my elderly parents, a number of their immediate neighbours, and local friends, have taken to not using the 17 route because it frequently does not turn up or run even remotely to time - this is a route that they have previously used regularly to get to Dudley, Kingswinford, Wordsley, and Stourbridge.

I wonder if there has been any analysis of time-keeping on routes that there have been plans to scrap where patronage appears to have fallen.

[Stuharris 6360]

Of course there is, the changes are still 'proposals' at the moment & haven't been registered with TC yet.

My memories of certain TFL decisions do make you think, are NX going the same way.

I remember when TFL wanted to withdraw the 13 route between Golders Green and Aldwych. Boris Johnson, then mayor of London, visited Golders Green and spoke to the Conservative MP there and sure enough the route was saved.

However after the 2017 general election and a New Mayor of London was installed, TFL revisited the proposals, but they said they realised how much people loved the 13, so renumbered the 82 route, 13.

NX just have to be careful and make sure they do listen to peoples points of view

On my first read of the consultation, the one that struck me was joining the 82 and the 2/2A. I have had to visit Russells Hall Hospital for tests around 4 times lately and on each occasion at least one 2/2A has been delayed. Am sorry but the 2/2A issn't a route that should be messed with!!

[Roy]

The consultation has been reopened although the final date for the consultation seems to have been left open - presumably until enough people agree with the proposals.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/08/16/we-are-aware-of-concerns-national-express-vow-over-planned-route-changes/

Reading the comments from Ali Bell (based in Birmingham), it appears that their minds are made up and no amount of objections will stop the changes to the 15/16/17. 

Incidentally, has anybody else noticed on the map that the new 15 is showing as operating directly from Bromley Lane to Kingswinford Cross via Stream Road and Standhills Road.  They can't possibly claim that the service is not used in The Portway or Standhills Road.

[BK63 YWP]

The consultation has been reopened although the final date for the consultation seems to have been left open - presumably until enough people agree with the proposals.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/08/16/we-are-aware-of-concerns-national-express-vow-over-planned-route-changes/

Reading the comments from Ali Bell (based in Birmingham), it appears that their minds are made up and no amount of objections will stop the changes to the 15/16/17. 

Incidentally, has anybody else noticed on the map that the new 15 is showing as operating directly from Bromley Lane to Kingswinford Cross via Stream Road and Standhills Road.  They can't possibly claim that the service is not used in The Portway or Standhills Road.

The survey states there will no change to the route 15 between wall heath and Merry hill so the maps a mistake

[Roy]

The survey states there will no change to the route 15 between wall heath and Merry hill so the maps a mistake

So you have two sections of the same document giving conflicting information.  Only one of these is correct and nobody has confirmed which one it is, so perhaps NXWM should amend the section that is wrong.

[winston]

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport/2019/08/16/we-are-aware-of-concerns-national-express-vow-over-planned-route-changes/

[karl724223]

Wolves councillor now moaning about the changes

[BK63 YWP]

Wonder if there will be a trade between PN and WN with 15 going to PN whilst the 8 goes to WN and potentially gets platinums?

[TT90]

Are these changes going through and routes registered, or are they on hold / postponed for the time being ?