Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Stuharris 6360]

*blows whistle* calm down folks!

ok what other routes will the mmcs be on apart from the 9

It has been announced by Tony that the 50 will get new MMcs next month with the old Enviros transferred to WB for the 82/7. apart from that nothing else has been eannounced.

Think it will be fairly certain that some may go to BC for the Bristol Road!

ok but was only on about PN

Don't think PE will get anymore, we only getting them for the 9 because the older ones have accumulated heavy mileages and need replacing before breakdowns start occuring more regularly.

The only time you will see the e400 mmc on other pn routes will be most likely weekend as the 9 needs all 22 for weekdays service.

Still think that you will see the new ones on the 53, 246 etc!

[Chris2301]

*blows whistle* calm down folks!

ok what other routes will the mmcs be on apart from the 9

It has been announced by Tony that the 50 will get new MMcs next month with the old Enviros transferred to WB for the 82/7. apart from that nothing else has been eannounced.

Think it will be fairly certain that some may go to BC for the Bristol Road!

ok but was only on about PN

Don't think PE will get anymore, we only getting them for the 9 because the older ones have accumulated heavy mileages and need replacing before breakdowns start occuring more regularly.

The only time you will see the e400 mmc on other pn routes will be most likely weekend as the 9 needs all 22 for weekdays service.

Talk is that unbranded ones will be on the Sunday 141s

I am surprised no ones mentioned which routes will get the 7 09 plate e400 that are staying at pn. Tbh i think they will float between any trident operated route

[Tara4352]

222 x96 205 297

[Stuharris 6360]

222 x96 205 297

Think that the 246 should be made 100% decker.

[Alex]

222 x96 205 297

Think that the 246 should be made 100% decker.

@Stuharris 6360 Agreed, the 246 is most likely to be given the 09 plate E400's

@Rhys S The 222 already has dedicated E200's, the X96 may get them, if any are spare, the 205 will probably get either E200's, if spare, and B7RLE's otherwise, the 297'll be the same, i reckon

[monkeyjoe]

Will the 141 still get the 09's then or have I missed something?

[Liverpool Street]

I personally think with the amount of buses coming this year, both the Pershore Rd and Bristol Rd will be upgraded cascading Y Reg Tridents to garages such as WA, CV and PE to see off Mercs and B10Ls and 4610-34 to WN to see off Spectra's and B6's.

46xx's have just been branded for the 14. They'll be staying for a while.

BC will be getting MMC's for the 900/957, cascading E400's to Pershore Road (and BR?) Opening up 41's to the other garages

[Roy]

I am surprised no ones mentioned which routes will get the 7 09 plate e400 that are staying at pn. Tbh i think they will float between any trident operated route

I would have thought that the mathematics were quite simple. 

Until recently, Pensnett had 54 double deckers - 29 E400's and 25 Tridents.  After the remaining 18 09-reg have gone to PB, Pensnett will have 54 double deckers - 29 E400's and 25 Tridents (albeit with 22 of the E400's being MMC). 

Therefore, apart from the 9 going to MMC operation (although probably with the odd Trident or 09-reg E400), the number of double deckers available for other routes will be exactly the same as now.  Therefore, Pensnett double deckers will probably be used on the same routes that they are now. 

[monkeyjoe]

I am surprised no ones mentioned which routes will get the 7 09 plate e400 that are staying at pn. Tbh i think they will float between any trident operated route

I would have thought that the mathematics were quite simple. 

Until recently, Pensnett had 54 double deckers - 29 E400's and 25 Tridents.  After the remaining 18 09-reg have gone to PB, Pensnett will have 54 double deckers - 29 E400's and 25 Tridents (albeit with 22 of the E400's being MMC). 

Therefore, apart from the 9 going to MMC operation (although probably with the odd Trident or 09-reg E400), the number of double deckers available for other routes will be exactly the same as now.  Therefore, Pensnett double deckers will probably be used on the same routes that they are now.

That's what i thought lol

[Stevo]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

[Trident 4194]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

I too enjoyed 6102, it's fan was rather loud, but you have to love the bell noice, really good interior, all be it the seats are very hard, and the fire door is diagonal. Also do these buses have one less seat than the current e400s as there is no seat behind the driver? Very pleased with buses, I am also pleased that I got on one that has not been trashed yet, no rattles and very smooth

9/10 for me

[andrew1991]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

I too enjoyed 6102, it's fan was rather loud, but you have to love the bell noice, really good interior, all be it the seats are very hard, and the fire door is diagonal. Also do these buses have one less seat than the current e400s as there is no seat behind the driver? Very pleased with buses, I am also pleased that I got on one that has not been trashed yet, no rattles and very smooth

9/10 for me

They have more seats

[Tony]

I rode on 6102 today from Colmore Row to Stourbridge and was impressed. The ride seemed better than the previous E400s and there was nothing wrong with performance - it was quick off the mark and got into 6th gear through Five Ways underpass.  I liked the interior too. The new moquette with red dots was attractive and I approved of the 'don't put your feet on the seats' signs. The engine had a nice throb, too. It was lighter at 11.2 something tonnes. Two girls were handing out leaflets for passenger's opinions with free tickets as a reward. But learn how to use a spell check, people! Automically?

I too enjoyed 6102, it's fan was rather loud, but you have to love the bell noice, really good interior, all be it the seats are very hard, and the fire door is diagonal. Also do these buses have one less seat than the current e400s as there is no seat behind the driver? Very pleased with buses, I am also pleased that I got on one that has not been trashed yet, no rattles and very smooth

9/10 for me

They have more seats

Yes same number downstairs, two more upstairs

[Stevo]

What Trident 4194 means is the heater fan downstairs, which certainly was loud and almost drowned out the engine sound. It went on reduced power and became quieter later.

[PM]

What Trident 4194 means is the heater fan downstairs, which certainly was loud and almost drowned out the engine sound. It went on reduced power and became quieter later.

Talking of the heater fan, hopefully heating is better on the MMC than on old style Enviro400's some of which can be pretty freezing in the winter...