Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Liverpool Street]

The enviro 400 mmc could it be referred to as a mk 2 enviro 400 or am I missing something.

Could do but the MMC is major model change. If your referring to Mk1 and Mk2 Metrobuses then the difference isn't the same as between a E400 and a MMC. A more balanced assumption would be between the early 47's, 48's, being Mk1 and the E40D's late 48's and 49's hundreds as Mk2's. The MMC is totally new body which looks nothing like the original E400. Suppose if you want to stretch it it'll be a Mk3.

[Gareth]

Can they not just be Enviro 400's? After all a VW Golf is a golf is a golf, despite many different versions.

[Kevin]

Can they not just be Enviro 400's? After all a VW Golf is a golf is a golf, despite many different versions.

Which Golf, the original or the MMC?.............

[2900]

When referring to cars my main passion the current golf is the mk7 with the iconic original being the mk1 legend, when ordering spares it helps to know which mk you have, hope this helps.
LS I agree with what you are with the  metrobuses there were subtle differences between 2and3 more so on the mk1, enviro 400 e40d chassis changes were quite  exstensive I imagine by relocating the engine to the left same as Volvo b7tl ,  wander why they did that.
As for the enviro 400 body other than the head light pods and upper rear ermgency window being of a different design, it the same all the way through its production run.

[Sh4318]

47**, 4800-4829 - Mk1
4830-4982 - Mk1a
E400 MMC - Mk2

That's how I think about it

[Stevo]

When I saw the type trainer MMC in Stourbridge what struck me was how similar it was to the earlier ones - much less of a change than Trident to E400. The front and rear have been tweaked and made more  'muscular' which I liked, and it had the new flush windows, which were also better, but it still felt like an E400, which I'm sure is the idea.

[Trident 4609]

Forgot to say, the MMC demo passed me by Burntree Tesco earlier on in the week. Looks very smart and can't wait to see the first ones in service

[Liverpool Street]

When I saw the type trainer MMC in Stourbridge what struck me was how similar it was to the earlier ones - much less of a change than Trident to E400. The front and rear have been tweaked and made more  'muscular' which I liked, and it had the new flush windows, which were also better, but it still felt like an E400, which I'm sure is the idea.

Well.. Yes Stevo it is still supposed to feel like an E400, its still called the Enviro .. If it was a totally new name then I guess it would be completely reworked inside, outside and chassis.

[Stuharris 6360]

Must be differences though as drivers require training on them!

[Liverpool Street]

Must be differences though as drivers require training on them!

Yeah the cab is totally reworked for, I imagine, ergonomics etc.

[RW]

are due by the end of the month they must be on site at ADL awaiting collection and delivery. En route to the West Midlands or hidden away somewhere by NX. Any thoughts?

[Stuharris 6360]

They won't arrive till early next month as they have been assigned 15 regs.

[Tony]

They won't arrive till early next month as they have been assigned 15 regs.

That doesn't mean they won't arrive in February, just they will enter service in March

[Stevo]

With Scottish regs I presume they're built at Falkirk and will come down the M6. I'm keeping a close look-out during my journeys up and down it.

[Tony]

With Scottish regs I presume they're built at Falkirk and will come down the M6. I'm keeping a close look-out during my journeys up and down it.

Yes, all the first 37 new buses are built at Falkirk, hopefully the 200s will be a better build quality than Scarborough buult earlier ones