Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

[Liverpool Street]

Typical once again West Brum as if Harborne are lacking newer vehicles and investment (same old same old). Not even like those routes have much competition. Resource in same old same old. WTF is going on with this management. Invest is same areas and generate profits and make no investments in area where people have no &^^%$ choice. Makes me sooooooo angry.  I am glad about the WB soho rd ones though :).  Right back to work to have another argument over trading terms with a certain supermarket chain.

I told you the 24 needed new buses. I'm led to believe that management had to act fast to combat the threat posed by Discount Travel Solutions on the Harborne corridor.

Hahahahaha! This post pleases me!

[monkeyjoe]

Typical once again West Brum as if Harborne are lacking newer vehicles and investment (same old same old). Not even like those routes have much competition. Resource in same old same old. WTF is going on with this management. Invest is same areas and generate profits and make no investments in area where people have no &^^%$ choice. Makes me sooooooo angry.  I am glad about the WB soho rd ones though :).  Right back to work to have another argument over trading terms with a certain supermarket chain.

I told you the 24 needed new buses. I'm led to believe that management had to act fast to combat the threat posed by Discount Travel Solutions on the Harborne corridor.

Hahahahaha! This post pleases me!

Quick to react, is it new management these days? They have  done ££&*( all to react to certain other corridors. 16 one I will name for a change lol.

[Sayeed]

Is Coventry due to have new E400's too?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45060815@N07/14801954944/

[John]

Is Coventry due to have new E400's too?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45060815@N07/14801954944/

If the date is right, they must be. They might be to replace Mercedes, or even to displace some deckers to a WM garage

[pb2012]

Is Coventry due to have new E400's too?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45060815@N07/14801954944/

I would say CV is to get some if not all the remaning balance of E400 due?
There is a 14 plate stagecoach in the group of pics taken?

[Liberator9]

Typical once again West Brum as if Harborne are lacking newer vehicles and investment (same old same old). Not even like those routes have much competition. Resource in same old same old. WTF is going on with this management. Invest is same areas and generate profits and make no investments in area where people have no &^^%$ choice. Makes me sooooooo angry.  I am glad about the WB soho rd ones though :).  Right back to work to have another argument over trading terms with a certain supermarket chain.

I told you the 24 needed new buses. I'm led to believe that management had to act fast to combat the threat posed by Discount Travel Solutions on the Harborne corridor.

Hahahahaha! This post pleases me!

Quick to react, is it new management these days? They have  done ££&*( all to react to certain other corridors. 16 one I will name for a change lol.

NX has invested over recent years on corridors and more minor services - they invested in the 6 and 37 back in 2010, 2011 involved new buses for PB's 33 route, WA's 51, and BC's Harborne services. Then in 2012 much deserved new single deckers went to PE, WN, AG and BC. There was also the new Enviro 200s for the 99, 222 and some WB services. In 2013 there was the 900 and 957 Enviro 400s, which had not seen new buses for a while, the Sutton routes which allowed good condition E400s to get to YW (replacing some Tridents there) plus there were new Wrights and Enviros for CV. WB is now getting its turn for much needed new buses, and seemingly CV could be due some more. PB already last year received a bunch of new buses for the Sutton lines - they can't just receive another load of new buses the year after in a large amount. I could equally moan about the lack of new buses at YW currently, but I am sure NX will get round to getting some in the near future - they need to basically balance out the number of new buses for each depot.

The previous comment regarding the fact NX always invest in the same old areas - well that's not really true - they seem to spread it out fairly evenly really - remember all those Scania Omnilinks on the Chelmsley Wood and Lea Hall services back in 2008. Those at BY/PB were meant to replace some of the older buses in East Birmingham, which included the likes of the 97, 16 and others. They will get their turn again I am sure one day.

[Stuharris 6360]

Typical once again West Brum as if Harborne are lacking newer vehicles and investment (same old same old). Not even like those routes have much competition. Resource in same old same old. WTF is going on with this management. Invest is same areas and generate profits and make no investments in area where people have no &^^%$ choice. Makes me sooooooo angry.  I am glad about the WB soho rd ones though :).  Right back to work to have another argument over trading terms with a certain supermarket chain.

I told you the 24 needed new buses. I'm led to believe that management had to act fast to combat the threat posed by Discount Travel Solutions on the Harborne corridor.

Take it PE may be due some new Enviro 400s for the 246 then, with GRS being such strong competition (Not)  ;) ;) ;)

[JB93]

I do have to agree with the comments about Harborne being given maybe too much of the attention - the majority of buses running through Harborne are already brand new and to pass up a chance to invest in corridors that desperately need new buses to upgrade yet another Harborne service (which already regularly sees Enviro400s and hybrids anyway) seems like a wasted opportunity to me. A much used example is the 94. NX is competing with brand new, clean and attractive looking buses run by Claribels on the Washwood Heath Rd. corridor, and they still haven't responded with newer buses to combat it, instead using decade old buses on a route that hasn't seen any investment in over a decade. I understand there's method to their madness but it would just be nice to see NX really spreading the investment fairly over their services.

[monkeyjoe]

I do have to agree with the comments about Harborne being given maybe too much of the attention - the majority of buses running through Harborne are already brand new and to pass up a chance to invest in corridors that desperately need new buses to upgrade yet another Harborne service (which already regularly sees Enviro400s and hybrids anyway) seems like a wasted opportunity to me. A much used example is the 94. NX is competing with brand new, clean and attractive looking buses run by Claribels on the Washwood Heath Rd. corridor, and they still haven't responded with newer buses to combat it, instead using decade old buses on a route that hasn't seen any investment in over a decade. I understand there's method to their madness but it would just be nice to see NX really spreading the investment fairly over their services.

Yeighhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Someone actually agrees with me. What a start to a Monday lol.

[Trident 4194]

I went on hybrid 24 on Saturday and there was a quite a few aswell as a enviro 400. I don't think they need them.

[Solo1]

When will the wb ones be in service i know they r on the way
back to the west midlands

[Tony]

When will the wb ones be in service i know they r on the way
back to the west midlands

They're not on their way down yet. I have just photographed 4 in service in Glasgow today. At least a week before any venture south yet

[Eric Shaw]

I would have thought the Enviro's in Glasgow would be needed for the V Festival.

[CL]

I do have to agree with the comments about Harborne being given maybe too much of the attention - the majority of buses running through Harborne are already brand new and to pass up a chance to invest in corridors that desperately need new buses to upgrade yet another Harborne service (which already regularly sees Enviro400s and hybrids anyway) seems like a wasted opportunity to me. A much used example is the 94. NX is competing with brand new, clean and attractive looking buses run by Claribels on the Washwood Heath Rd. corridor, and they still haven't responded with newer buses to combat it, instead using decade old buses on a route that hasn't seen any investment in over a decade. I understand there's method to their madness but it would just be nice to see NX really spreading the investment fairly over their services.

Yeighhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Someone actually agrees with me. What a start to a Monday lol.

I probably would've said otherwise... But it does seem fair, Harborne gets a fair share of current unbranded E400s, not to mention the whole ex-WN B5s being branded for services 22/23/24 and maybe 29... But 94 is a PB service. I think I remember somebody saying they were going to BC (and WB), which would make sense to upgrade the Pershore Road, or maybe Bristol Road.

[Sh4318]

I do have to agree with the comments about Harborne being given maybe too much of the attention - the majority of buses running through Harborne are already brand new and to pass up a chance to invest in corridors that desperately need new buses to upgrade yet another Harborne service (which already regularly sees Enviro400s and hybrids anyway) seems like a wasted opportunity to me. A much used example is the 94. NX is competing with brand new, clean and attractive looking buses run by Claribels on the Washwood Heath Rd. corridor, and they still haven't responded with newer buses to combat it, instead using decade old buses on a route that hasn't seen any investment in over a decade. I understand there's method to their madness but it would just be nice to see NX really spreading the investment fairly over their services.

Yeighhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Someone actually agrees with me. What a start to a Monday lol.

I probably would've said otherwise... But it does seem fair, Harborne gets a fair share of current unbranded E400s, not to mention the whole ex-WN B5s being branded for services 22/23/24 and maybe 29... But 94 is a PB service. I think I remember somebody saying they were going to BC (and WB), which would make sense to upgrade the Pershore Road, or maybe Bristol Road.

BC are getting ten, which wouldn't be enough to upgrade either of those corridors.