Hydrogen vehicles

[PB50]

H1006 currently on the way to Tyseley for fuel

I take it these will be back in service from Monday once the kids are back at school. Any ideas on how many they planning on using in a day?

[Tony]

I take it these will be back in service from Monday once the kids are back at school. Any ideas on how many they planning on using in a day?

Because the refuelling isn't into the running board again yet they will only be used if needed

[PB50]

Because the refuelling isn't into the running board again yet they will only be used if needed

Thanks for that information Tony.

[Wba_lad]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but can the hydrogen buses be used on anything as long as it's suitable like 4s can't due to Sandwell and Dudley bridge, but could they do like the 29 not like you would want to put them on there with vandalism. Or brownhills rota. 

[Gareth]

Because the refuelling isn't into the running board again yet they will only be used if needed

With a diesel bus when it's refuelled the tank will stay full until it's used, is that the same with hydrogen buses or does hydrogen deplete if not used? And does the hydrogen actually power the bus like diesel does with an engine or is it more to power a battery/cell?

[Jack]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but can the hydrogen buses be used on anything as long as it's suitable like 4s can't due to Sandwell and Dudley bridge, but could they do like the 29 not like you would want to put them on there with vandalism. Or brownhills rota.

They are funded by Birmingham City Council, so they have should be used on the Birmingham services...

[Tony]

With a diesel bus when it's refuelled the tank will stay full until it's used, is that the same with hydrogen buses or does hydrogen deplete if not used? And does the hydrogen actually power the bus like diesel does with an engine or is it more to power a battery/cell?

There's virtually no loss while they are not used.

The buses work exactly the same way as a battery electric but the batteries are charged while in use through generation by a fuel cell

[Stu]

The buses work exactly the same way as a battery electric but the batteries are charged while in use through generation by a fuel cell

Yes, Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle (FCEV) is the correct technical description for these hydrogen buses.

As opposed to Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) such as the Electroliner and ADL Enviro400EV.

[Tony]

H1013 is another now fuelled and available when required. Two a day next week will be done, but probably not used

[the trainbasher]

They are funded by Birmingham City Council, so they have should be used on the Birmingham services...

So technically, as the 6 and 77 go into Sutton, which is a BCC area, they can be used on there?

[Jack]

So technically, as the 6 and 77 go into Sutton, which is a BCC area, they can be used on there?

Do they serve Birmingham City Centre? No.

They was purchased for the 51, if they was seen to be on Walsall locals and others service that don't service the City Centre I'm sure that wouldn't be going down too well.

[the trainbasher]

Do they serve Birmingham City Centre? No.

They was purchased for the 51, if they was seen to be on Walsall locals and others service that don't service the City Centre I'm sure that wouldn't be going down too well.

They serve the Birmingham City Council area (Sutton, despite many folks forgetting, is a Birmingham City Council ran town, same with Erdington), and BCC funded them, (and isn't there a 77 board which has a X15 on it?).

Not everything revolves around Birmingham centre you know!

[Jack]

They serve the Birmingham City Council area (Sutton, despite many folks forgetting, is a Birmingham City Council ran town, same with Erdington), and BCC funded them, (and isn't there a 77 board which has a X15 on it?).

Not everything revolves around Birmingham centre you know!

The 77 is a single decker service which has a board on the X15. It's a 10 board that does the 6 then X15. And I'm certainly sure NX don't want them being trashed by the youths on the 10?!

Also they are refuelled at Tyseley during their daytime boards, are you expecting one to trot from Brownhills to Tyseley to refuel? That would be a lot of dead mileage.

[Celestial Toymaker]

personally i would like to see at least 1 Electric & 1 Hydrogen do a stint on the Outer Circle (Just Saying) my opinion doesn't matter anyway, wouldn't be hard to put 1 electric on there, i know AG can't charge them but maybe as PB used to have them 1 board could go temporarily to PB to run it ?

[Mayfield]

H1013 is another now fuelled and available when required. Two a day next week will be done, but probably not used

Am I missing something here, these have not been used for the best part of 6 months, they are now being prepared for service still with no plans to use them.