X1 will be every 15 minutes to Airport and every 30 minutes to Coventry, the X2 increased to every 15 minutes both services every 7-8 minutes
X12 revised to serve Birmingham Business Park, X70 will have additional buses to Newport Road giving a bus every 20 minutes (every 30 minutes on Sundays) both services every 10 minutes to Bromford and Castle Bromwich (every 15 minutes on Sundays).
The X1/2 isn't really surprising tbf. I was half expecting it to go back to how it was pre the every 20 coventry
x12 / x70 changes . Fair play its about time they sorted out the timetables of those routes always running in twos with 20 mins gaps etc. I was actually about to ask if people thought those routes had been a success since introduction. About time for once i am giving praise.
Thinking about it, is this to do with the Government giving funding so social distancing can be implemented? Or are these just progressive changes as services getting increased passenger nunbers, which would have happened with or without social distancing?
When I was waiting for the X12 at Bham International recently an X1 for Coventry came in showing bus full due to social distancing but as passengers left it changed to normal display. But I wonder if a half hourly service on to Coventry would be able to do that or would still show 'full'.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 19, 2020, 10:31:17 AM
Thinking about it, is this to do with the Government giving funding so social distancing can be implemented? Or are these just progressive changes as services getting increased passenger nunbers, which would have happened with or without social distancing?
I reckon it is a social distancing thing to be honest. There'll probably be more services effected in the same way in the coming weeks.
Realistically, a 20 minute service to the Airport has never been enough. Either the Birmingham end has to make do with overcrowding on 3 buses an hour or it has 4 and the Coventry has to make do with just 2. You do feel there must have been a reason why they changed it to every 20 all the way through but I've never really seen it busy enough to warrant it in the "before" times
I'm sorry to not be as positive as others on here, but this now means that the journey from Smith's Wood to Solihull is nearly an hour.
Has something happened at the Business Park to warrant this increase in buses? The Interchange HS2 station isn't due to be opened for years.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 19, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
I'm sorry to not be as positive as others on here, but this now means that the journey from Smith's Wood to Solihull is nearly an hour.
Has something happened at the Business Park to warrant this increase in buses? The Interchange HS2 station isn't due to be opened for years.
I wonder if this will coincide with the withdrawal or scaling back of the 75 service. The X12 will continue to use double decks, so I presume there have been capacity concerns with the vehicles presently used on the 75.
If the schools reopen in September, I also presume more workers will be returning to work. I'm sure I saw something a while back about how BBP was one of these places encouraging workers to take up public transport or cycling to work.
Quote from: Stu on August 19, 2020, 03:30:45 PM
If the schools reopen in September, I also presume more workers will be returning to work. I'm sure I saw something a while back about how BBP was one of these places encouraging workers to take up public transport or cycling to work.
Whats usage like on the X12/X70? Is there demand for an every 10 minute service to Bromford Drive and Chippefield Road. Otherwise I wander if it would make sense to run some direct via Bromford Road maybe?
They will be reopening it seems
@Stu, as I notice timetables for a lot of school services are on the NX Website now. Also notice the X2 has extensions to replace the 876.
BC 70 school service isn't showing as running from September 2020, and notice X70 has an 07:50 journey timetabled where that route would have ran I believe. So looks like that route might have been scrapped.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 19, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
I'm sorry to not be as positive as others on here, but this now means that the journey from Smith's Wood to Solihull is nearly an hour.
Has something happened at the Business Park to warrant this increase in buses? The Interchange HS2 station isn't due to be opened for years.
It will only take an extra 4 mins so I don't think it will make that much of a difference.
Looks like most timetables are changing from the date post summer, wonder if explanations will be posted on their NXWM site towards the weekend.
New timetable changes commencing 30th August confirmed on NX website which includes a new X529 !
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/timetable-changes-in-birmingham-the-black-country-from-30th-august-2020
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 19, 2020, 04:59:23 PM
Looks like most timetables are changing from the date post summer, wonder if explanations will be posted on their NXWM site towards the weekend.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/timetable-changes-in-birmingham-the-black-country-from-30th-august-2020
This new X529 also looks good. Journey times should be really quick now.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on August 19, 2020, 07:06:09 PM
New timetable changes commencing 30th August confirmed on NX website which includes a new X529 !
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/timetable-changes-in-birmingham-the-black-country-from-30th-august-2020
You beat me to it!😁
I'm surprised they didn't renumber it 25 and X25.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 19, 2020, 07:17:11 PM
I'm surprised they didn't renumber it 25 and X25.
There is already a 25 in Wolverhampton. It would be too confusing considering they cross each other.
Quote from: bususer28 on August 19, 2020, 03:51:48 PM
It will only take an extra 4 mins so I don't think it will make that much of a difference.
When I originally looked, I thought that it was having to go right the way to the main roundabout, which gets congested at peak times and when the 994 used to do it, it seemed to take forever to get around there.
I see now that they've built a new road to the business park which the bus will be using.
Quote from: bususer28 on August 19, 2020, 07:20:33 PM
There is already a 25 in Wolverhampton. It would be too confusing considering they cross each other.
It's alright, it can be added to the three in the wider Birmingham area as well. (I have a very bad sense of humour)
Via the Black Country Route?
Quote from: mikestone on August 19, 2020, 07:33:17 PM
Via the Black Country Route?
Well, it says it's following the same route as the 529, but it seems daft it's not serving the Willenhall Dale stop.
The old 966, when it ran Wolves to Walsall then onwards to the Airport, only served The Dale on route.
I suppose it gives it the option of running either route, like the X70 does in the Bromford Bridge area.
I can foresee issues with people catching it & thinking it stops at Willenhall!
(Think I'll stick to the 326 to & from work personally, apart from some occasions, including when the 326 goes onto Saturday service over Xmas !)
Quote from: Stu on August 19, 2020, 03:30:45 PM
I wonder if this will coincide with the withdrawal or scaling back of the 75 service. The X12 will continue to use double decks, so I presume there have been capacity concerns with the vehicles presently used on the 75.
If the schools reopen in September, I also presume more workers will be returning to work. I'm sure I saw something a while back about how BBP was one of these places encouraging workers to take up public transport or cycling to work.
No capacity issues - there are virtually no passengers at the moment although as you say there is likely to be a small uplift in September. Most passengers will still prefer the 75 over the X12 as it is more direct (omits the Airport)
Quote from: Westy on August 19, 2020, 09:28:24 PM
Well, it says it's following the same route as the 529, but it seems daft it's not serving the Willenhall Dale stop.
The old 966, when it ran Wolves to Walsall then onwards to the Airport, only served The Dale on route.
I suppose it gives it the option of running either route, like the X70 does in the Bromford Bridge area.
I can foresee issues with people catching it & thinking it stops at Willenhall!
(Think I'll stick to the 326 to & from work personally, apart from some occasions, including when the 326 goes onto Saturday service over Xmas !)
Presumably it's registered as a flexible route then like the Bromford and Cov Road routes, that way it can run down the Black Country Route or Bilston Lane to The Keyway, can't particularly imagine traffic conditions would ever necessitate running through Willenhall Town centre instead but that'd be a third option.
Surprised its taken this long for them to capitalise on the lack of direct rail service. Seems a shame now the plan for a rail service is finally progressing
Withdrawing the 80 doesn't make sense especially as there's other diversion on the route that aren't helping the reliability of it. I can see a few people in Smethwick complaining about losing a direct service from Devonshire Road to Capehill.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/x529-new-route-from-walsall-to-wolverhampton
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Confirms it is via the Black Country route.
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despite the link stating the timetable can be found on Traveline it can't.
Quote from: WB Driver on August 20, 2020, 11:18:05 AM
Withdrawing the 80 doesn't make sense especially as there's other diversion on the route that aren't helping the reliability of it. I can see a few people in Smethwick complaining about losing a direct service from Devonshire Road to Capehill.
Given the wording, I would feel that it is just until Smethwick High Street is reopened both ways. At the moment, Devonshire Road has roadworks on it as well which ain't helping matters.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 19, 2020, 07:17:11 PM
I'm surprised they didn't renumber it 25 and X25.
25, and 59 already exist locally
Looking forward to seeing how it goes, wonder if they will need more platinum buses for the frequency increase & the new service?
94S to replace BC 70.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=3394S&sup=B&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA01_56376203&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Looks like it's going to use a different route ie not via parkfield estate if Castle Brom timerley lane is timetable stop
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 20, 2020, 06:43:00 PM
Looks like it's going to use a different route ie not via parkfield estate if Castle Brom timerley lane is timetable stop
Probably Water Orton Lane, left onto Green Lane, right onto Hurst Lane North then via 94 route.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 20, 2020, 07:38:46 PM
Probably Water Orton Lane, left onto Green Lane, right onto Hurst Lane North then via 94 route.
Oh yeah, i didn't notice if you press all stops it tells you.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2020, 05:23:21 PM
25, and 59 already exist locally
Looking forward to seeing how it goes, wonder if they will need more platinum buses for the frequency increase & the new service?
Just an idea but in the future they could extend the current X51s that terminate at Walsall and continue them as the X529. Also renumber it the X52 which would match both the X51 and 529. It would probably end up being the quickest route from Brum to Wolves but I don't think reliability would be good.
Quote from: bususer28 on August 20, 2020, 10:16:23 PM
Just an idea but in the future they could extend the current X51s that terminate at Walsall and continue them as the X529. Also renumber it the X52 which would match both the X51 and 529. It would probably end up being the quickest route from Brum to Wolves but I don't think reliability would be good.
They operate from different garages and nobody in Birmingham would travel to Wolvo via Walsall. Doubt that many use the X8 the full length either, the train and tram are faster. And as you said disruption in Brum would impact Wolvo and vice versa.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2020, 10:35:49 PM
They operate from different garages and nobody in Birmingham would travel to Wolvo via Walsall. Doubt that many use the X8 the full length either, the train and tram are faster. And as you said disruption in Brum would impact Wolvo and vice versa.
You say that though, far and away the most convenient way from the Great Barr area to Wolves is up to Walsall and across on the 529. Purely on a selfish note I'd welcome it
X529 timetable now on the NX website. Journey time is about 25 minutes compared to 35 mins of the 529. No Sundays or late evenings but the journey times on the 529 are shorter during those times anyway, the same as 51/X51.
we still have to keep the seat in front/behind/next to us empty.
I don't want a kid sitting next to me. I will tell to 0121do one
Quote from: Ginger66 on August 21, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
we still have to keep the seat in front/behind us empty.
I don't want a kid sitting next to me. I will tell to 0121do one
I doubt there's enough capacity to allow the of seats infront and behind to be empty, especially as more people return to using buses. As some buses, namely single decker 55's do look very busy from what I've seen and in some cases probably don't have room to always allow for that. And they'll probably be even busier, come September.
So some double decks would be a good idea I think.
I believe current guidance is 1 passenger per pair of seats. So people can't next to you, but can sit on the row infront and behind.
In regards to the zig-zag seating as well. I suspect a lot don't have awareness of that. Maybe more some notices are needed to raise awareness.
Also if you can chose when to travel and don't need to be somewhere for a specific time, you can chose to avoid busy times. So you don't have kids sitting near you.
Quote from: Ginger66 on August 21, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
we still have to keep the seat in front/behind/next to us empty.
I don't want a kid sitting next to me. I will tell to 0121do one
Good luck with that.
Quote from: 2206 on August 21, 2020, 07:45:37 PM
I doubt there's enough capacity to allow seats infront and behind to be empty, especially as more people return to using buses. As some buses, paticularly single decker 55's do look very busy from what I've seen and in some cases probably don't have room to always allow for that.
I believe current guidance is 1 passenger per pair of seats. So people can't next to you, but can sit infront and behind.
Also if you can chose when to travel and don't need to be somewhere for a specific time, you can chose to avoid busy times. So you don't have kids sitting near you.
Most of the 55's I've seen this week are full at capacity, my question is where are the so called sweeper buses? No social distancing whatsoever. The 28's and 96's I've been catching too the last few days are filling up too. Its only the single deck routes I've seen that are struggling with the passengers and seem busier than most of the double deck services on this side of the city.
When I caught the 27 last week from Northfield to Yardley Wood the bus was filled and to the point most seats were taken. Why is there no sweeper buses on the single deck only services? Or even a temporary frequency increase on the every half hour services like the 96 so social distancing can be in practise. Running 'E' journeys on every other 28 to Dyas Road really isn't working as it still gets busy on the Hawthorn to Heartlands section.
Doesn't surprise me Birmingham could be having a local lockdown...
Quote from: Jack on August 21, 2020, 08:57:07 PM
Most of the 55's I've seen this week are full at capacity, my question is where are the so called sweeper buses? No social distancing whatsoever.
Wander if it would be possible to move it to BC and put deckers on it? As its moving to BC anyway soon it was said.
10 electrics into service at CV and then 10 double deckers from CV to BC for the 55 maybe?
Quote from: 2206 on August 21, 2020, 09:14:01 PM
Wander if it would be possible to move it to BC and put deckers on it? As its moving to BC anyway soon I think.
10 electrics into service at CV and then 10 double deckers to BC for the 55 maybe?
I think the 55 will get anything at BC like the 14 and 97 currently get. But I think some E400's will transfer over.
Quote from: Jack on August 21, 2020, 08:57:07 PM
Most of the 55's I've seen this week are full at capacity, my question is where are the so called sweeper buses? No social distancing whatsoever. The 28's and 96's I've been catching too the last few days are filling up too. Its only the single deck routes I've seen that are struggling with the passengers and seem busier than most of the double deck services on this side of the city.
When I caught the 27 last week from Northfield to Yardley Wood the bus was filled and to the point most seats were taken. Why is there no sweeper buses on the single deck only services? Or even a temporary frequency increase on the every half hour services like the 96 so social distancing can be in practise. Running 'E' journeys on every other 28 to Dyas Road really isn't working as it still gets busy on the Hawthorn to Heartlands section.
Doesn't surprise me Birmingham could be having a local lockdown...
Plenty ofvexaggeration there
A single decker 79 was definitely over capacity last week, it was about 11pm and I was standing next to the driver is was packed full. I did count but can't remember how many, it was certainly over the number on the max passenger poster.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 21, 2020, 09:54:01 PM
A single decker 79 was definitely over capacity last week, it was about 11pm and I was standing next to the driver is was packed full. I did count but can't remember how many, it was certainly over the number on the max passenger poster.
What max passenger posters are they? I've never noticed one personally and I didn't see one on 4288 either yesterday?
I think Diamond have them as they have them displayed by the doors of the buses
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 21, 2020, 09:54:01 PM
A single decker 79 was definitely over capacity last week, it was about 11pm and I was standing next to the driver is was packed full. I did count but can't remember how many, it was certainly over the number on the max passenger poster.
At that time of night the driver couldn't really leave passengers behind
Quote from: Lukeee on August 22, 2020, 12:32:31 AM
At that time of night the driver couldn't really leave passengers behind
No it was the second from last 79 of the day. I wasn't bothered as it was a 5 min journey.
Intresting new school service on WA X51 board starting September
CG4 Cardinal Griffen School - Rugeley - Handsacre
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2020, 11:06:15 AM
Intresting new school service on WA X51 board starting September
CG4 Cardinal Griffen School - Rugeley - Handsacre
How do you find this information?
They used to do Cheslyn Hay High routes to Bloxwich and Featherstone but don't anymore. 868 was one can't remember the other.
A WA driver told me. He doesn't know exact route but I'm sure it will soon be registered.
The 868 was Cheslyn hay to Bloxwich withdrawn January 2020.
854 Cheslyn Hay - Featherstone I think WN AM peak pm peak Walsall went onto 10/10A after. A bus on the 10 would go to Bradford place for a peak time 4 journey.
The St Francis SFA1 services are interesting as far as Wilconette Tamworth.
The X529 is very interesting but would of thought it could come off Keyway earlier just to serve Wilenhall. But on the other hand there's plenty of other buses to Wolverhampton and Wilenhall. I hope the route is Successful. A better number would of been X9.
If a 529 branded is used on there it will cause considerable confusion.
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2020, 01:00:38 PM
The X529 is very interesting but would of thought it could come off Keyway earlier just to serve Wilenhall. But on the other hand there's plenty of other buses to Wolverhampton and Wilenhall. I hope the route is Successful. A better number would of been X9.
If a 529 branded is used on there it will cause considerable confusion.
If people don't look at the website, & notice the information put on there, that will cause confusion as well, as most people will expect it to serve Willenhall as well.
Incidently I see (& I'm sure
@l.murphy123 will back me up on this too!) 51 branded on X51, so potential confusion is nothing new!
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2020, 12:47:49 PM
A WA driver told me. He doesn't know exact route but I'm sure it will soon be registered.
The 868 was Cheslyn hay to Bloxwich withdrawn January 2020.
The 868 bus came from an X51 which used to terminate in Landywood. After it ended that journey terminated at Bloxwich, but now runs to Cannock again. They still have two Select Bus routes.
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2020, 01:00:38 PM
The X529 is very interesting but would of thought it could come off Keyway earlier just to serve Wilenhall. But on the other hand there's plenty of other buses to Wolverhampton and Wilenhall. I hope the route is Successful. A better number would of been X9.
If a 529 branded is used on there it will cause considerable confusion.
If it came off keyway to serve Willenhall there would be no point diverting in the first place. They will still have a 529 up to every 6 minutes. Maybe they will rebrand the buses like they did with the 8 and X8. Like Westy said the 51/X51 mix up is more confusing.
I believe the idea of the X529 is to improve journey times for passengers travelling directly between Walsall and Wolverhampton.
Diverting it to serve Willenhall sort of defeats the purpose. The regular 529 will still operate, and as has been stated already there are numerous other services that do serve Willenhall as well, albeit less directly.
Now that most of the Travel Shops are now open(apart from Walsall!), are new timetable leaflets actually being produced?
Quote from: Westy on August 22, 2020, 11:57:12 PM
Now that most of the Travel Shops are now open(apart from Walsall!), are new timetable leaflets actually being produced?
Yes! Leaflets have been produced throughout the pandemic.
Two things.
What is the current status with Walsall Travelshop? Are they planning to reopen in the same premises, because if they do, they need to move that job club thing that was blocking the other set of doors!
Secondly, as regards the X529 using the Black Country Route, if there is a problem at J10 itself, surely they ought to register a varitation of coming off / on at Anson Junction, then using Bentley Road North, Queen Elizabeth Avenue, Churchill Road & Bloxwich Lane as well?
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2020, 11:11:39 AM
What is the current status with Walsall Travelshop? Are they planning to reopen in the same premises, because if they do, they need to move that job club thing that was blocking the other set of doors!
Walsall travelshop reopened on Monday 17th August in the same building
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 23, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
Walsall travelshop reopened on Monday 17th August in the same building
Did it?
They kept that quiet!
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 23, 2020, 09:52:39 AM
Yes! Leaflets have been produced throughout the pandemic.
Wolvo don't have any yet
Quote from: WB Driver on August 20, 2020, 11:18:05 AM
Withdrawing the 80 doesn't make sense especially as there's other diversion on the route that aren't helping the reliability of it. I can see a few people in Smethwick complaining about losing a direct service from Devonshire Road to Capehill.
I don't understand that one at all. Where is the need for 6 buses an hour for Windmill Lane estate? You think it would be easier to rename the service '80'
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 23, 2020, 12:29:29 PM
Wolvo don't have any yet
From what I've seen and beleave they have not had any durting the pandemic. I think it could be because it's operated by WMN and not NX, so the staff in that shop have been told not to give out any leaflets, or state otherwise why they can't They seam to be using technology instead of paper based anyway.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 20, 2020, 05:07:44 PM
Given the wording, I would feel that it is just until Smethwick High Street is reopened both ways. At the moment, Devonshire Road has roadworks on it as well which ain't helping matters.
Is it going to re-open both ways? The current trend seems to be to make roads with cars parked on both sides one-way, i.e. Grange Road and Capethorn Road.
The withdrawal of the 80 also means longer journeys for Devonshire Road passengers into Cape Hill and City Centre, as well as to West Brom - at a lower frequency too
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 23, 2020, 01:02:02 PM
I don't understand that one at all. Where is the need for 6 buses an hour for Windmill Lane estate? You think it would be easier to rename the service '80'
Where has this withdrawing the 80 come from?
It isn't being withdrawn
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2020, 01:24:20 PM
Where has this withdrawing the 80 come from?
It isn't being withdrawn
QuoteSandwell Council has made Smethwick High Street one-way only. So service 80 will be withdrawn and all journeys will be on service 80A.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/timetable-changes-in-birmingham-the-black-country-from-30th-august-2020
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 23, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/timetable-changes-in-birmingham-the-black-country-from-30th-august-2020
So not being withdrawn just having to avioid Smethwick high street
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2020, 02:05:46 PM
So not being withdrawn just having to avioid Smethwick high street
The timetable doesn't have the 80 on it just has the 80A on even when you click the 80 route it still has the 80A timetable where the timetable are and it says that it is withdrawn so that should mean that it is withdrawn
Quote from: BH2004 on August 23, 2020, 03:27:25 PM
The timetable doesn't have the 80 on it just has the 80A on even when you click the 80 route it still has the 80A timetable where the timetable are and it says that it is withdrawn so that should mean that it is withdrawn
Yes, as it says all buses will serve the 80A route as they cannot serve the 80 route, still a 10 min frequency
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2020, 03:42:18 PM
Yes, as it says all buses will serve the 80A route as they cannot serve the 80 route, still a 10 min frequency
To be honest, I'd have dropped the 80A and kept the 80 route number instead.
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2020, 02:05:46 PM
So not being withdrawn just having to avioid Smethwick high street
QuoteSandwell Council has made Smethwick High Street one-way only. So service 80 will be withdrawn and all journeys will be on service 80A.
That could've been worded a hell of a lot clearer!
As the 80 is only temporarily suspended, meaning that all buses have to use the 80A route until the roads are back to normal, I can see the logic of keeping to 80A.
The alternative would have been renumbering the 80A twice - to 80 at the start of the change, then back to 80A at the end.
It also demonstrates the intention to restore the 80 in due course.
Quote from: Stu on August 23, 2020, 04:40:31 PM
To be honest, I'd have dropped the 80A and kept the 80 route number instead.
That's like Diamond with their 401E, there is no 'normal' 401 lol I've been told the history behind it but you'd think they would drop the E.
'Surprising Change' in my opinion.
Actually finding space in the main bus station for the X51 to Cannock & near to the 31/32 stop too!
(Bet there's no space for Arriva 2 though?)
Now if they can sort out the special 31/32 fares onto the X51 as well, then its sorted!
Quote from: Westy on August 26, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
Now if they can sort out the special 31/32 fares onto the X51 as well, then its sorted!
They won't do that as people would get on in Bloxwich with their 31/32 ticket and travel to brum.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 26, 2020, 12:12:24 PM
They won't do that as people would get on in Bloxwich with their 31/32 ticket and travel to brum.
Isn't that what Tony & his colleagues are employed to do(amongst many things!)?
Check tickets?
Quote from: Westy on August 26, 2020, 01:04:21 PM
Isn't that what Tony & his colleagues are employed to do(amongst many things!)?
Check tickets?
They can't do it as the 31/32 is a WMB service not a NX service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 01:15:07 PM
They can't do it as the 31/32 is a WMB service not a NX service
I am not a revenue Inspector any more, so don't check tickets nowadays.
Of course the revenue team can check tickets on the 31/32. Theere's no need posting your personal guesswork as fact
They have now listed all the school service changes now
@monkeyjoe Do you have a link for this?
https://nxbus.co.uk/search/west-midlands/?site%5Bsearch%5D=94s
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 22, 2020, 12:18:14 PM
How do you find this information?
They used to do Cheslyn Hay High routes to Bloxwich and Featherstone but don't anymore. 868 was one can't remember the other.
Timetable for Cannock Cardinal griffen school
https://www.cardinalgriffin.org.uk/Parents/College-Bus/
A email from park hall academy stated that the 70 will be replaced by 94S and has been rerouted due to low hanging trees and that this service will no longer be available to general public
All schools services are no longer available to general public.
To be fair, has anyone ever used a school service as a member of the general public?
I used a works service once, the old 641 that ran from Willenhall to Mossley Estate, then swapped to the the regular bus back from Mossley to Leamore.
Quote from: Westy on September 04, 2020, 10:13:39 AM
To be fair, has anyone ever used a school service as a member of the general public?
When I caught 4572 on the PM 70 back in March it picked up lots of members of the public between Ward End and City Centre, as it was basically the same route as the 55/94.
Same for the afternoon 11E school journey that terminates at Ward End, that used to pick up lots of members of the public as well, as these were basically just 11A's. Think NX website says one of these will run as a closed door 11S this year.
And I saw an elderly woman travelling on the old 885 school service once, quite a few years ago now, while waiting for the 11A at Acocks Green.
Quote from: 2206 on September 04, 2020, 10:58:15 AM
Same for the afternoon 11E school journey that terminates at Ward End, that used to pick up lots of members of the public as well, as these were basically just 11A's. Think NX website says one of these will run as a closed door 11S this year.
Thinking about that i'm also surprised NX aren't going to run an AM 11S.
Would make sense to run one from Ward End (Bromford Lane, St Margarets Rd stop) to Acocks Green (Olton Boulevard East) for the school kids.
As in previous years some of the the 11C's in the morning were always crowded and full of school kids.
And running an 11S would presumably mean less school kids on the public buses, meaning members of the public are less likely to be left behind and prevent crowding on the 11C's.
Quote from: SK68MEV on September 04, 2020, 01:31:18 AM
A email from park hall academy stated that the 70 will be replaced by 94S and has been rerouted due to low hanging trees and that this service will no longer be available to general public
Where are these low hanging trees? The X70 has always been a double decker so not following that "low hanging trees" element??
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 04, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Where are these low hanging trees? The X70 has always been a double decker so not following that "low hanging trees" element??
Beats me.
Funnily enough, now the 94S goes down a part of Water Orton Road that is only served by the 96, a single decker service. That road used to be served by the 966 so shouldn't have any problems with trees.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 04, 2020, 05:13:13 PM
That road used to be served by the 966 so shouldn't have any problems with trees.
Trees do grow over time you know! ;D
Quote from: ellspurs on September 04, 2020, 05:13:13 PM
Beats me.
Funnily enough, now the 94S goes down a part of Water Orton Road that is only served by the 96, a single decker service. That road used to be served by the 966 so shouldn't have any problems with trees.
They are saying the route has been changed because of overgrowing trees, suggesting that the issue is in the Parkfield estate so that is what i don't understand. I read somewhere on here that is the same reason they are using for the 55 not becoming DD. Where is the issue on that route? ..... Love to understand.
I was so curious looked on the Networks west midlands Solihull map and noticed that the 94 isn't even on it but the 55 is and the wholes of Auckland drive is missed out as having buses running on it.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 04, 2020, 06:31:05 PM
I read somewhere on here that is the same reason they are using for the 55 not becoming DD. Where is the issue on that route? ..... Love to understand.
Kendrick Avenue is the main problem on the 55 route
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2020, 07:05:58 PM
Kendrick Avenue is the main problem on the 55 route
O i see, thanks.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 04, 2020, 06:31:05 PM
I was so curious looked on the Networks west midlands Solihull map and noticed that the 94 isn't even on it but the 55 is and the wholes of Auckland drive is missed out as having buses running on it.
I noticed this as well last night, and asked the question of
@Bus Man K2 in his map thread. It's been removed from the Birmingham map as well.
Possibly due to when Claribels withdrew their service, things may have got confused.
I have to say on a positive note , more buses to castle Brom / hodge hill A shame I've sold my house there now.
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2020, 12:21:18 PM
Did it?
They kept that quiet!
Well, I went in yesterday, to renew my pass for the first time in 6 months, changing from a NBus Black Country 4 week to a NBus 4 week Walsall instead, as I'm no longer going outside Walsall workwise.
One way in, one way out, moving the job club stuff out, allowing the 'back doors' to be used for the few time in a few years.
(The staff were telling punters of the one way system, but one decided to 'cock a deaf un' & ignore the member of staff concerned!)
All the timetable leaflets stripped off the shelves, presumbly as none of them are actually valid now, however just as you walk in, there is a shelf full what appears to be printouts from the NX website, so NX services only & no one else's services.
One thing I will say regarding the plastic screens put in various premises, including NX, to protect both the staff & customers, while it protects the staff & they don't have to wear the masks, it doesn't help the customers who are still wearing the masks legally, as you struggle to make yourself understood!
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
One thing I will say regarding the plastic screens put in various premises, including NX, to protect both the staff & customers, while it protects the staff & they don't have to wear the masks, it doesn't help the customers who are still wearing the masks legally, as you struggle to make yourself understood!
you could wear a face shield instead of a mask
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2020, 04:33:48 PMOne thing I will say regarding the plastic screens put in various premises, including NX, to protect both the staff & customers, while it protects the staff & they don't have to wear the masks, it doesn't help the customers who are still wearing the masks legally, as you struggle to make yourself understood!
The new ticket office at Wolverhampton Railway Station has a plastic screen too, I got told that I could pull down my mask as it was difficult to speak to them. I presume it's fine to do so if they are behind a shield, and you aren't near anyone else.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 04, 2020, 03:45:13 PM
Where are these low hanging trees? The X70 has always been a double decker so not following that "low hanging trees" element??
the map park hall academy have provided is the same route as the existing X70 and branches do hit off the bus whilst I be on the bus as it goes through park field estate
Quote from: SK68MEV on September 06, 2020, 10:45:25 PM
the map park hall academy have provided is the same route as the existing X70 and branches do hit off the bus whilst I be on the bus as it goes through park field estate
I doubt there is a problem, with using double deckers along there, otherwise surely they would have taken the double deckers off the X70, or rerouted that service.
The map on Traveline WM shows a completly different route to the X70 and NX website also confirms this.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:3394S:B:H:y11:13:5::1:1&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/birmingham-school-services-from-30th-august-2020
Two occasions I have boarded the X529 from 'The Prince' stop on Stafford Street towards wolvo. Both occasions the driver appeared reluctant to stop but let me on informing me they don't stop there. Whilst its not on the flag, there is an A4 notice on the stop saying "X529 STOPS HERE" with the advert for it above. I have tweeted NX who need to inform the drivers and ask WMN to update the flag (or take the notice down if it was put up by mistake).
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 25, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Two occasions I have boarded the X529 from 'The Prince' stop on Stafford Street towards wolvo. Both occasions the driver appeared reluctant to stop but let me on informing me they don't stop there. Whilst its not on the flag, there is an A4 notice on the stop saying "X529 STOPS HERE" with the advert for it above. I have tweeted NX who need to inform the drivers and ask WMN to update the flag (or take the notice down if it was put up by mistake).
Very dodgy stop to wait at, as the official diversion because of the closure of Wolverhampton Street is Green Lane!
Hence the drivers comment
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 25, 2020, 05:15:59 PM
Two occasions I have boarded the X529 from 'The Prince' stop on Stafford Street towards wolvo. Both occasions the driver appeared reluctant to stop but let me on informing me they don't stop there. Whilst its not on the flag, there is an A4 notice on the stop saying "X529 STOPS HERE" with the advert for it above. I have tweeted NX who need to inform the drivers and ask WMN to update the flag (or take the notice down if it was put up by mistake).
Thought you were catching the 60 from Bloxwich?
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
Very dodgy stop to wait at, as the official diversion because of the closure of Wolverhampton Street is Green Lane!
Hence the drivers comment
Really? The poster needs taking down then if its in the wrong place. And the website says Stafford Street. Reason I chose that stop twice was because my X51 got to The Prince 1 min before the X528 opposite so would have missed it if Id have swapped at the bus station. I'll bare that in mind though.
Quote from: Westy on September 25, 2020, 07:02:06 PM
Thought you were catching the 60 from Bloxwich?
For work yes, this is social travel
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 06, 2020, 05:47:35 PM
The new ticket office at Wolverhampton Railway Station has a plastic screen too, I got told that I could pull down my mask as it was difficult to speak to them. I presume it's fine to do so if they are behind a shield, and you aren't near anyone else.
Had this at work last week, students were coming to the counter and pulling mask down due to the splash screen, even thou there is a splash screen it was hard to hear the person with a mask and splash screen