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Started by monkeyjoe, December 08, 2022, 10:00:13 PM

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SO6597

36485 is on the 46 at the moment and took the line of the 48 from QE to Northfield (went via Weoley Castle Square). 

Rachvince53

Reported in Manchester Evening News that Stagecoach have been missing out parts of service 328 due to using buses too heavy for part of the route known locally as "little Europe" so its not just in Birmingham that buses omit parts of routes.

MasterPlan

Quote from: SO6597 on January 26, 2023, 05:05:55 PM36485 is on the 46 at the moment and took the line of the 48 from QE to Northfield (went via Weoley Castle Square).

Oh dear.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

bususer28

Not quite sure what happened yesterday but there were 2 46s running together towards Kings Heath at about 08:30. As you can imagine, both ran completely empty (surprise, surprise!); who knows what must've happened for them to run two buses together...

Ginger66

Quote from: bususer28 on January 26, 2023, 08:29:25 PMNot quite sure what happened yesterday but there were 2 46s running together towards Kings Heath at about 08:30. As you can imagine, both ran completely empty (surprise, surprise!); who knows what must've happened for them to run two buses together...
Isn't that a diamond trick, we following the leader 

Rachvince53

Quote from: Ginger66 on January 27, 2023, 06:56:11 AMIsn't that a diamond trick, we following the leader
That's what happened with Diamond 27 on Wednesday!  Two 27s arrived in Wolves within minutes.

Stu

Quote from: bususer28 on January 26, 2023, 08:29:25 PMNot quite sure what happened yesterday but there were 2 46s running together towards Kings Heath at about 08:30. As you can imagine, both ran completely empty (surprise, surprise!); who knows what must've happened for them to run two buses together...
"Congestion on route" caused some later journeys to be cancelled, perhaps that was why...

https://twitter.com/StagecoachMids/status/1618587690856742913
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

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Straightlines

Quote from: Stu on January 27, 2023, 12:40:48 PM"Congestion on route" caused some later journeys to be cancelled, perhaps that was why...

https://twitter.com/StagecoachMids/status/1618587690856742913
In defence of Stagecoach, the TfWM designed timetable for the service is somewhat of a joke and tight even on a Sunday.

SO6597

Vast majority of journeys on the 46 have operated via Weoley Castle Square today so looks like that part of the route is now following where the bus stops have 46 on them, the Bus Times map has also altered too. A tweak in the route through Northfield needed next.

Trident 4194

I travelled on the 46 today. He was 15 minute late arriving into kings Heath by the time he'd gone round to come back towards QE he was 30 minutes late. 3 passengers the entire journey. He was giving that e200 some whack. Timetable is a joke. The journey behind was 10 minutes behind and missed out some of the route arriving into the QE on time 


ellspurs

"Buses driving unsafely on inappropriate roads" where said roads are full of poorly and illegally parked cars. 

Also Vicarage Road has the 11A/C on it. The congestion is caused by the prats trying to turn right at the lights when they're not allowed to do so, as well as poorly and illegally parked cars.

Stu

Kings Heath has always been a difficult place for buses to terminate, due to the lack of 'turning points'.

In my opinion, the 169 when approaching Kings Heath should go via Brook Lane then onto Springfield Road, before terminating on Institute Road, that stop is close enough to the High Street for arriving passengers to walk to. The outbound journey can then pick up at the Alcester Road stop, before turning onto Addison Road, then onto Brook Lane, as per the 11A/C route.

The 46 should do similar, unload at Vicarage Road and/or Alcester Road, then go via Addison Road and onto Springfield Road before terminating on Institute Road. Outbound journey then starts there, and picks up passengers from Vicarage Road.
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

Justin Tyme

Quote from: Stu on January 31, 2023, 07:34:09 PMKings Heath has always been a difficult place for buses to terminate, due to the lack of 'turning points'.

In my opinion, the 169 when approaching Kings Heath should go via Brook Lane then onto Springfield Road, before terminating on Institute Road, that stop is close enough to the High Street for arriving passengers to walk to. The outbound journey can then pick up at the Alcester Road stop, before turning onto Addison Road, then onto Brook Lane, as per the 11A/C route.

The 46 should do similar, unload at Vicarage Road and/or Alcester Road, then go via Addison Road and onto Springfield Road before terminating on Institute Road. Outbound journey then starts there, and picks up passengers from Vicarage Road.

I agree with you - that is the logical solution.

At the moment roadworks in Kings Heath High Street mean one lane is out by Institute Road and Silver Street, causing long delays.  No doubt NXWM 35 and 50 (at least) are badly affected too.

Stu

Quote from: Stu on January 31, 2023, 07:34:09 PMThe 46 should do similar, unload at Vicarage Road and/or Alcester Road, then go via Addison Road and onto Springfield Road before terminating on Institute Road. Outbound journey then starts there, and picks up passengers from Vicarage Road.
Looking on BusTimes, it would seem that Diamond's 150 service uses Addison Road, Goldsmith Road then Institute Road to turn around, so that's another possibility for the 46.

Quote from: Justin Tyme on January 31, 2023, 07:48:19 PMAt the moment roadworks in Kings Heath High Street mean one lane is out by Institute Road and Silver Street, causing long delays.  No doubt NXWM 35 and 50 (at least) are badly affected too.
Blocking off access to side roads for the LTN probably isn't helping traffic matters either!
My locals:
2 - Birmingham to Maypole | 3 - Birmingham to Yardley Wood
11A/C - Birmingham Outer Circle | 27 - Yardley Wood to Frankley
76 - Solihull to Northfield | 169 - Solihull to Kings Heath

West Midlands Bus Users: Website | Facebook | X/Twitter | Bluesky

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