Stagecoach in Birmingham

[Straightlines]

Stagecoach are on borrowed time with their latest TfWM contracts & risk being stripped of them if performance doesn't improve.

Whilst I'm not disagreeing, I'm not really sure what that is pertinent to my point.

They also wouldn't be the first TfWM contractor to be 'on borrowed time' over the years...

[winston]

Whilst I'm not disagreeing, I'm not really sure what that is pertinent to my point.

They also wouldn't be the first TfWM contractor to be 'on borrowed time' over the years...

They're hardly a threat based on their current performance, as it's all been a bit of a cock-up. Even if it has raised a few eyebrows at NX. 

[Straightlines]

They're hardly a threat based on their current performance, as it's all been a bit of a cock-up. Even if it has raised a few eyebrows at NX.

Cock-up is an understatement, although the ultimate orchestrator of the cock-up is the ongoing incompetence that is TfWM! 

[winston]

Cock-up is an understatement, although the ultimate orchestrator of the cock-up is the ongoing incompetence that is TfWM!

It seems that the left-hand doesn't talk to the right-hand within Stagecoach i.e. Stockport not telling Warwickshire that they were bidding for those TfWM contracts. TfWM have also been very poor awarding contracts with as little as two weeks notice to start date, late informing the public of changes & updating bus stop flags / timetables at bus stops which could be on-going to end of Feb....

[BBS]

It seems that the left-hand doesn't talk to the right-hand within Stagecoach i.e. Stockport not telling Warwickshire that they were bidding for those TfWM contracts. TfWM have also been very poor awarding contracts with as little as two weeks notice to start date, late informing the public of changes & updating bus stop flags / timetables at bus stops which could be on-going to end of Feb....

The Acocks Green ones still haven't even been changed yet, but if stagecoach loses their Birmingham routes what will happen who will operate them? 

[winston]

The Acocks Green ones still haven't even been changed yet, but if stagecoach loses their Birmingham routes what will happen who will operate them?

Should those routes be stripped from Stagecoach & they go back out on emergency tender, it will be down to which operator has the capacity to take them on, most likely Diamond or Landflight, but Solus Coaches could be a contender for future TfWM contracts too. 

Despite what others have posted, Stagecoach didn't bid cheap to win the 41, 46, 169 & A9. They were slightly cheaper as they offered a package bid for all four vs individual prices for each route. 

[markcf83]

It seems that the left-hand doesn't talk to the right-hand within Stagecoach i.e. Stockport not telling Warwickshire that they were bidding for those TfWM contracts. TfWM have also been very poor awarding contracts with as little as two weeks notice to start date, late informing the public of changes & updating bus stop flags / timetables at bus stops which could be on-going to end of Feb....

I would say both are culpable to some extent. 

[winston]

I would say both are culpable to some extent.

Operators being given as little as 2 weeks notice to start date, wasn't confined to just Stagecoach. 

[GoldenSquid]

Not sure why Rugby have changed there dests, noticed in Solihull today the A9/169 have now scrolling via, and the main destination is not bold anymore which isn't easy to see.

[Sandy Lane]

Operators being given as little as 2 weeks notice to start date, wasn't confined to just Stagecoach.

TfWM signed it all off so IMO they are to blame. Someone wants sacking within TfWM. 

[Isle of Stroma]

Whatever you think about Stagecoach entering the West Midlands, it has raised concerns at higher levels at NX; I even understand that some of their more junior employees have been tasked with undertaking monitoring on their compliance and reporting findings to higher level management.

After (yet) another 45+ minute wait for a 97 yesterday evening & (yet) another FTO of my early morning 97 to work during the week, maybe some monitoring of their own service compliance might be more beneficial?

[Solo1]

Football was on yesterday as 97 goes past the ground will get delayed by football traffic unless it diverted away from the ground after the match 

[winston]

TfWM signed it all off so IMO they are to blame. Someone wants sacking within TfWM.

I've since learnt that Stagecoach were awarded their tenders much earlier on, it was Diamond that were awarded some contracts with only two week notice. 

[Straightlines]

TfWM signed it all off so IMO they are to blame. Someone wants sacking within TfWM.

Unfortunately, there is too much deadwood at Summer Lane and the status quo will remain! 

They knew entirely what they were getting into.

[Stu]

Not sure why Rugby have changed there dests, noticed in Solihull today the A9/169 have now scrolling via, and the main destination is not bold anymore which isn't easy to see.

Last Saturday, I observed a 169 passing through Billesley which showed "Sainsburys" and "via Solihull Town Centre" on the lower line. Which I thought was a bit unhelpful, which Sainsburys? (there are stores also in Kings Heath and Maypole!)

Yesterday, the one I spotted on Westridge Road did actually show 'Shirley Sainsburys'.

On both occasions, the buses were empty!