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Started by Tony, February 01, 2020, 02:10:54 PM

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BK63 YWP

With that rule for fleet numbers 

That'll leave (with the most choice of numbers)

1231-1500
2300-3299
3400-3999
5001-5399
8000-8999
9000-9999 

Available?
The Funny sounding Enviro 400

15 Wolverhampton to Merry Hill
15A Wolverhampton Merry Hill
16 Wolverhampton to Stourbridge

X10 Gornal Wood

EK40

Quote from: Ronnoc on July 11, 2025, 10:53:33 PMHopefully these buses have more seats than the hydroliners.
these have the exact same layout as your average diesel bus, hydroliners were only like that because of the very new hydrogen tech needing a lot of space,

but even now the gen 2 hydrogens also have the standard layout.

BBS

QuoteHopefully these buses have more seats than the hydroliners.
More like hopefully they have more seats than the BYDs

Tony

Quote from: Gareth on July 11, 2025, 11:15:22 PMHow does this work with this batch as the numbers are the same as vehicles from circa 1989 and the Enviro200s in the 22** series that had metrobuses from these numbers in service into the 90s and early 00s. And 801-12. Or does this only apply to vehicles with those numbers that are still owned by the company?
It should have said mid 90s. Oldest buses in the system are 24xx Metrobuses

Mayfield

Quote from: Mike K on July 11, 2025, 08:01:33 PMWho registers these to give them Manchester / Merseyside registration identifiers?

I know most people aren't bothered by this but I was hoping they might get Birmingham plates like the Hydrogens and recent Electroliners for Oxford and Leicester. Bit of a shame that in most places buses no longer have plates local to where they are.
Probably port of entry into England which I believe is Fleetwood

Gareth

Quote from: BK63 YWP on July 11, 2025, 11:38:19 PMWith that rule for fleet numbers

That'll leave (with the most choice of numbers)

1231-1500
2300-3299
3400-3999
5001-5399
8000-8999
9000-9999

Available?
Travel London used 8***, quite a few used in 9*** and I think maybe for a while there were Travel Yourbus in the 5*** series although they weren't physically carried.

Mike K

Quote from: Mayfield on July 12, 2025, 09:22:56 AMProbably port of entry into England which I believe is Fleetwood
I believe that far up, and also Heysham where Wrightbus vehicles are shipped into, would be a "P" registration (Preston). 

To be honest, I don't know how the new vehicle registration process works since local DVLA offices closed. A lot of companies have their buses registered local to where they're built, hence why most ADL products carry S and Y plates. But some companies must register theirs locally somehow - Go South Coast have just received more E400MMCs with H (Hampshire) plates.


Ian Hardy

Quote from: Mike K on July 12, 2025, 10:22:08 AMI believe that far up, and also Heysham where Wrightbus vehicles are shipped into, would be a "P" registration (Preston).

To be honest, I don't know how the new vehicle registration process works since local DVLA offices closed. A lot of companies have their buses registered local to where they're built, hence why most ADL products carry S and Y plates. But some companies must register theirs locally somehow - Go South Coast have just received more E400MMCs with H (Hampshire) plates.


There are two options:

1. The operator instructs the manufacturer to register the vehicles using the local identifier nearest to the company's  operating area - e.g. Go South Coast wants buses registered with H prefix plates, but even this went wrong as Isle of Wight vehicles have HW regs, so 1741 - 1747 had to be re-registered soon after delivery:   
1741 HJ73NFN Reregistered HW73BEA
1742 HJ73NFO Reregistered HW73BEB
1743 HJ73NFP Reregistered HW73BEC
1744 HJ73NFR Reregistered HW73BED
1745 HJ73NFT Reregistered HW73BEE
1746 HJ73NFU Reregistered HW73BEG
1747 HJ73NFV Reregistered HW73BEK
1741 - 1747 were part of a larger batch 1713 - 1791, the others went to Bluestar or Morebus where Go South Coast weren't so concerned what the second letter of the prefix was used.

or

2. The operator lets the manufacturer register the vehicles and the manufacturer uses the local identifier nearest to their UK premises. Therefore ADL uses S prefixes for Falkirk built buses or Y prefixes for Scarborough built buses; BYD uses L prefixes as their UK offices are in Heston near Heathrow Airport in West London (which is why NXWM E001 - E333 have London registrations); Volvo uses B as their UK HQ is in Wedgnock Lane, Warwick CV34 5YA; Wrightbus doesn't seem to have a pattern for what they use.


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