10A to Lichfield from 22nd of July

[Isle of Stroma]

Its a fair old way too, around 12 miles - with not much in between Coventry and Rugby. Bedworth, Leamington and Kenilworth etc are a bit nearer!

WMPTE used to go out as far as Brandon at certain times!

[John Stait]

I remember the 4 going out to Brandon!

[JPC]

I remember the 4 going out to Brandon!

Yes in 1994 for a few years and some time before that Brandon had the limited peak 44 service extended there (only found that out recently when such timetable was seen on eBay) obviously it didn't last long either.
In the other direction the 3 went to Bedworth (via current Stagecoach 56 route), one wonders if they had put the resources into extending 20 to Nuneaton instead their rewards might have been reaped?

[Bob]

Running the X51 to Cannock all day would end in disaster, the X51 is very popular and what would happen is that buses from Cannock would get held up on there way to Walsall leaving passengers with long waits to get to Birmingham which would also lead to longer waits in Birmingham for passengers for Walsall, so I think extending the X51 to Cannock all day is a bad idea, Reliability MUST come first. I would run a separate new service from Walsall to Cannock instead.

If NX ran in direct competition with Arriva on the 1 ( maybe not the 2-if you live in landywood/wyrley the trains a better option the sapphire 2 hasnt really been successful) they would wipe the floor with arriva. Even if they offered say a 5 quid return!

[Justin Tyme]

Yes in 1994 for a few years and some time before that Brandon had the limited peak 44 service extended there (only found that out recently when such timetable was seen on eBay) obviously it didn't last long either.
In the other direction the 3 went to Bedworth (via current Stagecoach 56 route), one wonders if they had put the resources into extending 20 to Nuneaton instead their rewards might have been reaped?

At the time Stagecoach (Midland Red South, Vanguard and G&G) were expanding in Coventry, and the 3, 4 and 44 extensions might have been a bit of retaliation on the part of WMT.  Both Stagecoach and WMT scaled back the competition after a little while.

I have little doubt that Stagecoach would have fought back very hard in Coventry if WMT had extended the 20 to Nuneaton - and that they would do now.

[Ally]

At the time Stagecoach (Midland Red South, Vanguard and G&G) were expanding in Coventry, and the 3, 4 and 44 extensions might have been a bit of retaliation on the part of WMT.  Both Stagecoach and WMT scaled back the competition after a little while.

I have little doubt that Stagecoach would have fought back very hard in Coventry if WMT had extended the 20 to Nuneaton - and that they would do now.

I was told by somebody (forget who now and whether true or not, I don't know) that they intended to delve into Nuneaton a little more at one point but they both came to some sort of an informal agreement to stay out of each other's way.
That was in reply to me asking why "Nuneaton, Camp Hill", "Nuneaton, Grove Farm" and "Bedworth, Smorrall Lane" appeared on WMT WT's blinds at the time. Rugby also appears on them but I suspect that was probably for Rail Replacements etc.

I do have a few photos of 3053 displaying the above blinds with SMR routes as a poke at the situation!

[:D]

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/new-services-to-lichfield-coming-22nd-july

[Bob]

Hopefully itll have a detrimental effect on Arriva who despite purchasing new buses for its main 60 route got rid of most of them and now shove anything on there incl ( very) knackered cadets and old darts and tat

[Trident 4194]

Is the intention to use old vehicles/ heritage vehicles for the first day in service?

[John]

Is the intention to use old vehicles/ heritage vehicles for the first day in service?

No, that is later on using 4453, 4601 and maybe the Metrobus and Daimler duplicating service buses

[Trident 4194]

No, that is later on using 4453, 4601 and maybe the Metrobus and Daimler duplicating service buses

What date was this sorry, I can't find the thread where it was posted

[Other Walsall Tony]

No, that is later on using 4453, 4601 and maybe the Metrobus and Daimler duplicating service buses

4601 is not a heritage vehicle, so could work the route anytime, I suppose. Including the first journey?

[Solo1]

What date was this sorry, I can't find the thread where it was posted

I think it was early august  that was mentioned but NOT confirmed at the time if myn memory servers me right

[2206]

I think it was early august  that was mentioned but NOT confirmed at the time if myn memory servers me right

11th August.

[Trident 4194]

11th August.

Thanks both will put that in my calendar