South Birmingham Consultation 2017

[2206]

Just seen a 50 branded MMC saying 50A?? I thought that was withdrawn.

Last day of operation is Friday 31st August.

[Steve3229vp]

Just seen a 50 branded MMC saying 50A?? I thought that was withdrawn.

Not until Friday 31st August

[I love Walsall buses]

Just seen a 50 branded MMC saying 50A?? I thought that was withdrawn.

on the nxwm website changes it saying it needs more passengers otherwise it will get withdrawn

[2206]

on the nxwm website changes it saying it needs more passengers otherwise it will get withdrawn

No.
It clearly says that the last day of operation is Friday 31st August.

Sadly there are not enough passengers using our 50A service. To ensure that both Transport for West Midlands and Worcestershire County Council have enough time to consider the implications of withdrawing this service, and decide whether a replacement service needs to be provided, we will continue to offer this service until Friday 31 August 2018.

Regular buses that run to the same destinations as the 50A are provided by Johnsons' 150 service on Alcester Road. Diamond's S3 service also provides a regular link to the Alcester Road and Maypole for customers in Hollywood, Trueman's Heath and Wythall.

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/south-birmingham-service-changes/service-50a

[I love Walsall buses]

oh ok thanks for that @2206

[Sh4318]

No.
It clearly says that the last day of operation is Friday 31st August.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/south-birmingham-service-changes/service-50a

TfWM are said to be considering a replacement in the meantime - that's what I got from the consultation book anyway

[Smethwickian]

TfWM are said to be considering a replacement in the meantime - that's what I got from the consultation book anyway

The section within the West Midlands county has plenty of alternative 50 journeys, leaving it primarily up to Worcestershire County Council. Considering it has not rushed to plug far larger gaps in provision caused by First's latest swingeing  cuts in the south of the county, I would not hold my breath.

[Steve3229vp]

New timetables for the X20, X21 and X22 from Traveline commencing 2nd September (longer journey times in peaks as you would expect)

X20 - an improved peak-period service with shorts between City and University (outward AM, inward PM) just like the 98 used to do.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__0000595c_TP.pdf

X21
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__00003f27_TP.pdf

X22 - an improved peak-period service
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__0000040d_TP.pdf

[MasterPlan]

New timetables for the X20, X21 and X22 from Traveline commencing 2nd September (longer journey times in peaks as you would expect)

X20 - an improved peak-period service with shorts between City and University (outward AM, inward PM) just like the 98 used to do.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__0000595c_TP.pdf

X21
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__00003f27_TP.pdf

X22 - an improved peak-period service
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/TTB/CEN_EFA03__0000040d_TP.pdf

How come only 3 stops are being shown now as opposed to all of them?

And why does it say no service on 27th August? I'd have thought it'd be Sunday service.

[2206]

How come only 3 stops are being shown now as opposed to all of them?

And why does it say no service on 27th August? I'd have thought it'd be Sunday service.

Maybe because the old timetable will still be in place on the 27th August?
With the new timetable not commencing until 2nd September.

[Tony]

The new timetables are standard changes for most Birmingham routes when the summer schedules end

[MasterPlan]

Maybe because the old timetable will still be in place on the 27th August?
With the new timetable not commencing until 2nd September.

Whoops, of course.

Still, a bit disappointing that most of the stops have disappeared.

Anybody know how the Bus Gate is coming along?

[MasterPlan]

On my way back from the Resorts World today I thought I'd try out the X12. I have to say I was impressed with the announcement of Non stop from Bromford to Priory Queensway. Do the the X20 and X22 do something similar after School of Education? If not then they should!

[Straightlines]

On my way back from the Resorts World today I thought I'd try out the X12. I have to say I was impressed with the announcement of Non stop from Bromford to Priory Queensway. Do the the X20 and X22 do something similar after School of Education? If not then they should!

They don't, when I was on the X20 recently after leaving that stop it said 'The next stop is Smallbrook Queensway' which for someone unfamiliar with the area is absolutely rubbish as it was still around 10-15 minutes away!

[MasterPlan]

They don't, when I was on the X20 recently after leaving that stop it said 'The next stop is Smallbrook Queensway' which for someone unfamiliar with the area is absolutely rubbish as it was still around 10-15 minutes away!

Hmm yeah that is pretty poor to be honest. Like you say if you're not familiar with the area you're going to be none the wiser. The confusion is going to be even worse when the students start next month.
Also, can't the X21 go non-stop along Bath Row (in both directions when it comes to it)? I feel like it needs to miss something out to help it out. Additionally I'd get rid of the Arthur Road, Carpenter Road stop (again in both directions when it happens) as you've got stops close by betore and after it anyway.
I also wonder whether when the Selly Oak Retail Park is built the X20 and X21 can skip through the that instead of getting suck in traffic by the soon-to-be old Sainsburys.