South Birmingham Consultation 2017

[Straightlines]

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They really haven't ever seen Wheeleys Road have they? Jesus wept this is going to be hilarious

I suspect they probably haven't, I thought they normally do Risk Assessments for such decisions?

[MasterPlan]

Well the X21 I took this morning avoided it inbound using the old 98/X64 route in. Which must be the diversion that was mentioned previously. Either way it's a farce.

[Trident 4194]

What I don't understand is with Birmingham being practically a car park nowadays, why do they keep ploughing buses into the centre, where they then become unreliable?

[Straightlines]

What I don't understand is with Birmingham being practically a car park nowadays, why do they keep ploughing buses into the centre, where they then become unreliable?

Maybe because that's where most people travel to/from?

In fairness there actually seems less Buses rather than more to me. One of the largest problems with Birmingham City Centre at present is the inadequate infrastructure and the lack of Bus priority into the City from many parts.

If your suggesting services stopping short of Birmingham to turn round then that will probably be the final nail in the coffin for some of them.

[Solo1]

What I don't understand is with Birmingham being practically a car park nowadays, why do they keep ploughing buses into the centre, where they then become unreliable?

what don't help is the lack of bus lanes & car drivers who think they can nip into bus lanes the fine should be £1000  If in a bus lane

[Mike K]

What I don't understand is with Birmingham being practically a car park nowadays, why do they keep ploughing buses into the centre, where they then become unreliable?

In short, because it's where most people want or need to go - to work, Bull Ring / Grand Central shopping, New St station, etc.

I use the bus Monday to Friday to get to work in the city centre - that's it. Thousands of others do the same.

[2206]

What I don't understand is with Birmingham being practically a car park nowadays, why do they keep ploughing buses into the centre, where they then become unreliable?

Surely that's obvious. That's where people want to go.
If you went and pulled every single bus route out of Birmingham City Centre - there'd be thousands of unhappy passengers.
Broad Street and that area of the City Centre may be, but not the whole of Birmingham City Centre the route the Washwood Heath Road services take (Jennens Road and Nechells Parkway), never seems to be that badly congested to me and it's certainly not like a car park very often.

[MasterPlan]

Yeah I think the North Birmingham services find it easier getting in and out of the City than the South.

[Brummie45]

Surely that's obvious. That's where people want to go.
If you went and pulled every single bus route out of Birmingham City Centre - there'd be thousands of unhappy passengers.
Broad Street and that area of the City Centre may be, but not the whole of Birmingham City Centre the route the Washwood Heath Road services take (Jennens Road and Nechells Parkway), never seems to be that badly congested to me and it's certainly not like a car park very often.

The 55/94 services were almost non existent yesterday evening during the rush hour.

[MasterPlan]

Not even a week since the school kids have gone back and heavy traffic around Edgebaston Park Road etc have messed up all of the new Uni routes.

[Dom]

Not even a week since the school kids have gone back and heavy traffic around Edgebaston Park Road etc have messed up all of the new Uni routes.

It's almost like you weren't expecting more people to be on the roads!! Shock horror, its hardly like its the same every single year!

[MasterPlan]

It's almost like you weren't expecting more people to be on the roads!! Shock horror, its hardly like its the same every single year!

Where did I say I wasn't expecting it? Do you have to be so condescending at every opportunity?

[V89MOA]

Where did I say I wasn't expecting it? Do you have to be so condescending at every opportunity?

The best advice is to ignore irritations, they usually go away on their own 🤞

Unfortunately Paradise Circus will be adding to the issues indirectly too for the foreseeable.

[Mike K]

The point being made that these express 'fast to QE' buses take a route that gets horribly congested in rush hour, thereby defeating the object of them being limited stop. As many pointed out when the service changes were announced.

An hour or so ago the app was showing X20s were due at University Station from city in 9, 40 and 41 minutes.

[MasterPlan]

The point being made that these express 'fast to QE' buses take a route that gets horribly congested in rush hour, thereby defeating the object of them being limited stop. As many pointed out when the service changes were announced.

An hour or so ago the app was showing X20s were due at University Station from city in 9, 40 and 41 minutes.

Thank you! At least someone gets why I said it. Like Mike has said many pointed out beforehand about the traffic around there and sending services down there to avoid traffic would be fruitless.
As for the X20 I saw two of them stuck gridlocked in traffic inbound there were bunches everywhere.
Also I'd just like to say I'm loving the fact that that the only route that stops at all the stops picking people up is given less capacity on the buses. Another stroke of genius making people get onto already full buses as the others don't stop.