South Birmingham Consultation 2017

[Sh4318]

As I remember it, the 61 was every 7/8 minutes, and the 62 & 63 were every 15 minutes each, creating a combined frequency of every 3/4 minutes.

Evenings, the 61 was every 15, the 62 & 63 every 30 mins each, combined 7/8 min frequency.

Sunday's, the 61 was every 10 minutes, 62 & 63 every 20 mins each, combined every 5 mins. Happy to be corrected

[B.C Driver]

I just remember on evenings the 61 was every 20 mins, 62 was every 20 mins, 63 was every 20 mins.

So between City and Northfield buses were more frequent than now. It can get very busy on evenings. Remember, the university is one of the biggest in the UK, about 30,000 students study there.

[2206]

6856 was on Moor Street Queensway turning right onto Park Street with lots of drivers onboard (some upstairs and some downstairs), was this on driver training for the new services today, seen at about 12:46?

[Solo1]

Are they changing the 97 route in Birmingham City Centre as well?
Traveline WM and Google Maps show that the X20/X21/X22 and 61/63 will be stopping the current 97 terminus and from there will continue to the Priory Queensway where they will terminate.
With the 97 being moved stopping at BS17 on Albert Street.
"Birmingham, Dale House (Stop BS17)"
The map on Traveline WM shows that it will come back down Moor Street no longer leaving the City Centre via Park Street.
The timetable shows it will stop at BS17 -
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=33097&sup=B&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_44249870&lineVer=12&itdLPxx_spTr=12&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Dale+House+(Stop+BS17)/@52.4806308,-1.8940289,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4870bc8f5f86f8c9:0x5ce9c42bd898bc98!8m2!3d52.4806101!4d-1.893201

the 97 is only temporary move sign on bus stop says due to a new stop  been built there

[BigDaddyCool]

X21 has a platinum on. I so hope these remain on these so they match with the X20 and X22. Presuming it's just because it's a Sunday.

[Steve3229vp]

X21 has a platinum on. I so hope these remain on these so they match with the X20 and X22. Presuming it's just because it's a Sunday.

They might be, I picked up the X20, X21, X22 timetable on Friday and it's Platinum style timetable leaflet !

[BigDaddyCool]

Ah good. Time will tell I guess :)

[Steve3229vp]

Ah good. Time will tell I guess :)

If my maths is correct there were 38 Platinums delivered this year + 7 taken from the X61 that = 45, so I think in the main daytime period the 23 and 24 will need about 24 + 6 for the X20 + 7 for the X21 and 5 for the X22, that equals 42. Other vehicles could supplement in peaks as they do on 934-7 routes.

[Cheese]

Just done 6828 on the X21 from Bangham Pit to Birmingham, and between Edgbaston Park Road and Bristol Road we used Wellington Road, first time I have been on a bus down there. Guess drivers are free to use whatever route on that section? Vaguely recall a Zaks route might have used Wellington Road many years ago but nothing for a long time.

[AndrewLee]

Just done 6828 on the X21 from Bangham Pit to Birmingham, and between Edgbaston Park Road and Bristol Road we used Wellington Road, first time I have been on a bus down there. Guess drivers are free to use whatever route on that section? Vaguely recall a Zaks route might have used Wellington Road many years ago but nothing for a long time.

Wellington Road is THE route towards City. It's not down to drivers' discretion.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm sure there were flags along the old x64 route along Arthur Road?  x21 also just gone down Wellington Road. Still painfully slow from Weoley Castle to Edbadton Church 🙄

[BigDaddyCool]

This also contradicts the route maps that were released that has Wellington Road blanked out??????.

[2206]

I'm sure there were flags along the old x64 route along Arthur Road?  x21 also just gone down Wellington Road. Still painfully slow from Weoley Castle to Edbadton Church 🙄

From Edgbaston Old Church the route is:
Into the City Cente non stop via Wellington Road and Bristol Road.
Out of the City Centre stopping via Bath Row, Wheeleys Road and Arthur Road.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:33X21:B:H:y11:5:5::1:2&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV

This also contradicts the route maps that were released that has Wellington Road blanked out??????.

You can't get on/off on Wellington Road though.

[B.C Driver]

From Edgbaston Old Church the route is:
Into the City Cente non stop via Wellington Road and Bristol Road.
Out of the City Centre stopping via Bath Row, Wheeleys Road and Arthur Road.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:33X21:B:H:y11:5:5::1:2&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCVYou can't get on/off on Wellington Road though.

I'm presuming it would stop at Stone Rd?

[MasterPlan]

I'm presuming it would stop at Stone Rd?

Not according to the maps and timetables.