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South Birmingham Consultation 2017

Started by Stu, July 25, 2017, 08:16:57 PM

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MasterPlan

I notice the flags on the outbound stops along Beckbury Road have been changed to 27, X21. Suprised they've started it this early.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Dom

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 06, 2018, 01:27:09 PM
I notice the flags on the outbound stops along Beckbury Road have been changed to 27, X21. Suprised they've started it this early.

Flags have also started being changed around Frankley.


MasterPlan

So is anything going to replace the 22S and 29S next week? Because nothing will serve Edgbaston High School and Harborne Academy as far as those services are concerned.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Smethwickian

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 05:19:47 PM
So is anything going to replace the 22S and 29S next week? Because nothing will serve Edgbaston High School and Harborne Academy as far as those services are concerned.
Nothing replaces anything 'next week' (i.e., week commencing Monday 16 July,) as the new service network does not commence until 22 July.
Edgbaston High School closes noon tomorrow, 10 July according to its website calendar http://edgbastonhigh.co.uk/calendar/month/09-Jul-2018.
Harborne Academy however continues until 24 July according to http://www.harborneacademy.co.uk/parent-calendar

MasterPlan

Quote from: Smethwickian on July 09, 2018, 05:29:01 PM
Nothing replaces anything 'next week' (i.e., week commencing Monday 16 July,) as the new service network does not commence until 22 July.
Edgbaston High School closes noon tomorrow, 10 July according to its website calendar http://edgbastonhigh.co.uk/calendar/month/09-Jul-2018.
Harborne Academy however continues until 24 July according to http://www.harborneacademy.co.uk/parent-calendar

Alright so I worded it wrong. Still doesn't answer my question though. So I assume these schools are closing permanently then yeah...
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 05:36:17 PM
Alright so I worded it wrong. Still doesn't answer my question though. So I assume these schools are closing permanently then yeah...
Till September (for the school holidays.).
If they aren't being replaced the 2 schools you mention are located between Five Ways and Harborne so will still be served by the regular 23 and 24.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MasterPlan

Quote from: 2206 on July 09, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Till September (for the school holidays.).
If they aren't being replaced the 2 schools you mention are located between Five Ways and Harborne so will still be served by the regular 23 and 24.

I know that, I was being fictitious in response to the condescending answer I was given.
Yes they will but that's no good to those who require the 22 and 29, hence why I asked about the 22S and 29S.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

#547
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 05:43:14 PM
I know that, I was being fictitious in response to the condescending answer I was given.
Yes they will but that's no good to those who require the 22 and 29, hence why I asked about the 22S and 29S.
The 29S doesn't carry on beyond Harborne anyway according to the timetable on the NX website and serves Shenley Academy, terminating at the first stop on Harborne High Street.
So it serves neither of the 2 places you mentioned, therefore neither will be affected.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/Revised-timetables/B29S_15Apr16.pdf

According to the timetable on the NX website the 22S operates to the City Centre in the afternoon anyone who uses the 22S from the 2 places you mentioned can catch a 23/4 to the City Centre. And doesn't operate in the morning, since it doesn't operate in the morning they must already use the 23/24 in the morning anyway.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/29th-May-2016/B22S_29May16.pdf
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MasterPlan

#548
Quote from: 2206 on July 09, 2018, 05:47:15 PM
The 29S doesn't carry on beyond Harborne anyway according to the timetable on the NX website and serves Shenley Academy, terminating at the first stop on Harborne High Street.
So it serves neither of the 2 places you mentioned, therefore neither will be affected.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/Revised-timetables/B29S_15Apr16.pdf

According to the timetable on the NX website the 22S operates from the City Centre in the morning and to the City Centre in the afternoon anyone who uses the 22S from the 2 places you mentioned can catch a 23/4 to the City Centre.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/29th-May-2016/B22S_29May16.pdf

You sure about that? That's not what it says here.

https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/west-midlands/B029S/?timetable[day]=&tab=

(Okay that link isn't working but if you search for 29s on NX website it shows as much)

The 22S doesn't just serve Harborne...
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

#549
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 05:50:50 PM
You sure about that? That's not what it says here.

https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/west-midlands/B029S/?timetable[day]=&tab=

(Okay that link isn't working but if you search for 29s on NX website it shows as much)

The 22S doesn't just serve Harborne...
29S:
Serves Shenley Academy
1 journey to Harborne High Street.
The other journey goes nowhere near Harborne and goes to Northfeld.

It doesn't serve the Harborne to Five Ways section, so Harbrone Academy and Edgbaston High School won't be affected.

Thats what the timetable on the NX website shows.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/Revised-timetables/B29S_15Apr16.pdf
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MasterPlan

Quote from: 2206 on July 09, 2018, 05:59:49 PM
29S:
1 journey to Harborne High Street.
The other journey goes nowhere near Harborne and goes to Northfeld.

It doesn't serve the Harborne to Five Ways section, so Harbrone Academy and Edgbaston High School won't be affected.

Thats what the timetable on the NX website shows.
https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/Revised-timetables/B29S_15Apr16.pdf

So why does the stop list on the NX website say it goes to town then?
Irregardless, they still rely on the regular 22 and 29 which won't be replaced.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

#551
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 06:03:09 PM
So why does the stop list on the NX website say it goes to town then?
Irregardless, they still rely on the regular 22 and 29 which won't be replaced.
They probably haven't updated the stop list from whenever they last changed the route.
The 97S is the same and the stop list hasn't been updated from when they extended it as well.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Smethwickian

Quote from: MasterPlan on July 09, 2018, 05:43:14 PM
I know that, I was being fictitious in response to the condescending answer I was given.
The word you're looking for is 'facetious' but nevertheless no condescension was intended as your post raised a valid question - I looked up the schools' holiday dates to see if the changes coincide with end of term which clearly is not as consistent as I would have expected.
Do any other schools still have lessons in the week commencing 23 July, leaving pupils to rearrange travel plans for a random few days?

MasterPlan

Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

Kevin

School services are always irrelevant to service changes like this
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