South Birmingham Consultation 2017

[MasterPlan]

A link will remain:
The offpeak 10H operates between the QE and Five Ways.
Stops outside Five Ways shopping Centre towards the QE and just up the road form Morrisons on Highfield Road from the QE.

Not really much of a replacement though is it.

[Steve3229vp]

My views on some of the South Birmingham Changes:

1 and 1A
The 1A could be successful but if it is there could be more buses needed in peaks on the 1 particularly if good numbers are carried from the QE end of the 1A.

4, 4A, 6 and 31
The 4 and 4A is the big surprise for me here, particularly with the 15 minute frequency in the evenings and 7-8 minutes on Sundays!
The downside is that with the 31 not running on Stratford Road I expected the 6 to be every 20 minutes after 9PM, but it's only every 30 minutes so will it struggle.

X22
I'm wondering if the X22 could be the real winner here, if it works out then passengers from California, Kitwell and Bartley Green might use it a lot possibly leading to and increased frequency in the future.

27 and 48
Both routes are too long especially the 48 and reliability could play a big part, in my opinion the new section of the 48 route should have been a separate route. The 27 is a strange one and one to watch.

[Mike K]

The 1 & 1A are every 40 minutes individually. I made that mistake at first. Personally I thought the 1 would be 2 per hour, with a 1A every hour to make an 20 minute frequency

That caught me out too. Not a fan of 40 min frequencies, trying to work out what minutes past the hour the bus will be dependent on which hour it is. Appreciate it's only the end of the route but confusing nonetheless.

[Kevin]

That caught me out too. Not a fan of 40 min frequencies, trying to work out what minutes past the hour the bus will be dependent on which hour it is. Appreciate it's only the end of the route but confusing nonetheless.

Oh they haven't have they? Ffs those sort of frequencies are no use to anyone

[Busmapper]

... interestingly Sunday and evening 4A journeys are extended to Robin Hood Island

The 31 timetable has surprised me, I didn't think there would be a Sunday service, especially at the same frequency as the Mon-Sat

And what is especially strange is that it is surely superfluous to have Sunday daytime 4A journeys extending to Robin Hood Island when there is a Sunday 31 timetable provided.

[sonic84]

Oh they haven't have they? Ffs those sort of frequencies are no use to anyone

I'm not a fan of 40 minute frequencies either. I don't think they do much for building patronage. Didn't nxwm alter the 297 to a 40 minute frequency at one point and then it was withdrawn shortly after.

Luckily it is only on a Sunday!

[BigDaddyCool]

A link will remain:
The offpeak 10H operates between the QE and Five Ways.
Stops outside Five Ways shopping Centre towards the QE and just up the road form Morrisons on Highfield Road from the QE.
Though I agree @MasterPlan it most likely won't be much of a replacement and very useful for many.

Most people would not see this a viable alternative I'm afraid. I'm not even sure that many away from this forum even know the route exists, let alone where it goes!

If it's not NXWM I don't think many people see it as an option.

[Sh4318]

I wonder if YW will receive 4578-4584 once these changes take place

[MasterPlan]

I wonder how many B7RLEs will be needed by BC after these changes. And how many Pershore Road branded buses get debranded with the 47's PVR probably dropping.

[Solo1]

Thing your find the singles will move to another depot as BC will be deckers only I was told by a driver

[MasterPlan]

Thing your find the singles will move to another depot as BC will be deckers only I was told by a driver

Any idea of where they'll go?

[Tony]

Any idea of where they'll go?

Has anyone actually said they are going?

[BK63 YWP]

Still the X21 to cover which will be b7s

[2206]

Still the X21 to cover which will be b7s

What would happen to the others though as the X21 wouldn't need all of them?

[Straightlines]

What would happen to the others though as the X21 wouldn't need all of them?

Well given one of the main objectives of this 'Consultation' is to reduce Bus workings they will probably replace some of the older vehicles elsewhere...