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South Birmingham Consultation 2017

Started by Stu, July 25, 2017, 08:16:57 PM

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Sh4318

#390
June 27, 2018, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 27, 2018, 03:38:34 PM
Throw the 146 into that mix too. The X16 is fairly long.

Does the 145 still go into Birmingham? Does it still exist?
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

2206

#391
June 27, 2018, 06:23:34 PM Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 06:29:22 PM by 2206
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 27, 2018, 06:20:23 PM
Does the 145 still go into Birmingham? Does it still exist?
No the does not 145 go to Birmingham City Centre, it was curtailed in 2003.
The 145 is operated by Igo today (Rubery - Longbridge - Barnt Green - Aston Fields - Droitwitch).
http://www.igobuses.com/service/timetable.html?Service=29&Region=null
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Dom

#392
June 28, 2018, 03:24:56 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 03:30:13 PM by Dom
Some very interesting changes i must say.

The stop changes seem positive aswell. I can see these changes being an improvement if I'm honest.

V89MOA

#393
June 28, 2018, 03:33:22 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 28, 2018, 03:24:56 PM
Some very interesting changes i must say.
I agree, I've just been reading them on the website.

2206

#394
June 28, 2018, 04:28:56 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 04:36:48 PM by 2206
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

2206

#396
June 28, 2018, 05:13:44 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 06:50:58 PM by 2206
The X20/X22 and X21 timetables and maps are now on Traveline WM.
For the X20 and X22, the first stop is the Birmingham University and King Edwards Edgbaston School Gates on Pritchatts Road and they will have operated non stop from Bath Row, inbound Bath Row won't be served and they will operate non stop to Smallbrook Queensway.

Traveline WM also shows the X21 will continue to serve all stops to Birmingham City Centre outbound, inbound it appears Arthur Road and Bath Row are being made one way only stopping at Edgbaston Old Church then non stop to Smallbrook Queensway.

Why are they only serving Bath Row and Arthur Road in one direction? Congestion on Bath Row and Holloway Head inbound?

http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:33X21:B:H:y11:5:5::1:2&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV

http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?language=en
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

MasterPlan

#397
June 28, 2018, 05:15:54 PM
"One bus stop on
Woodcock Lane will not be served. The nearest stops are at Weoley Castle Road (by Shenley
Lane)"

I struggle to see how looking at that map. And I ask again, why are the X20 and X22 being run by platinum buses but not the X21. And what route in town will they take?
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

V89MOA

#398
June 28, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 28, 2018, 05:15:54 PM
And I ask again, why are the X20 and X22 being run by platinum buses but not the X21. And what route in town will they take?
I suspect it would be a case of not having enough platinums to cover all three X routes and the Harbornes, although if it means the heaps are staying on there then what a poor show... At the absolute least I should expect some to go in for Crimson shortly!

MasterPlan

#399
June 28, 2018, 05:39:25 PM
Quote from: V89MOA on June 28, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
I suspect it would be a case of not having enough platinums to cover all three X routes and the Harbornes, although if it means the heaps are staying on there then what a poor show... At the absolute least I should expect some to go in for Crimson shortly!

Surely not? Especially with the X61 losing it's platinums.
Local Routes: 002, 39/39A, X21, 46, 76.
Localish Routes: 18, 23, X22.

2206

#400
June 28, 2018, 05:41:39 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 05:46:35 PM by 2206
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

V89MOA

#401
June 28, 2018, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 28, 2018, 05:39:25 PM
Surely not? Especially with the X61 losing it's platinums.
The X20 will probably eat up most of those on its own though.

MW

#402
June 28, 2018, 05:53:45 PM
Hang on, so what's gonna be Platinum operated?

6835-6840 & 6855-6892 are available, so 44 Platinum buses. Surely X20/21/22 can all be Platinum operated.

Are routes 23/24 going to be Platinum operated too?

Mike K

#403
June 28, 2018, 05:54:27 PM
The 23 and 24 seem to have a slightly unusual 9 minute frequency each for much of the day, 8 mins at peak times. Sunday and evening services are every 20 mins each, so the Harborne to city section goes from 8 to 6 buses an hour at these times.

Surprised to see the 23 no longer serving Adams Hill and its housing estates, and the nearest bus stop to KE Five Ways School is now Romsley Road.

None of these are mentioned in the 'negatives' in the promotional material. At least everyone can rejoice in the simplicity of only having to remember two route numbers.

2206

#404
June 28, 2018, 05:55:04 PM Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 05:58:59 PM by 2206
Quote from: MW on June 28, 2018, 05:53:45 PM
Hang on, so what's gonna be Platinum operated?

6835-6840 & 6855-6892 are available, so 44 Platinum buses. Surely X20/21/22 can all be Platinum operated.

Are routes 23/24 going to be Platinum operated too?
According to the NX service changes page - https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/misc/SouthBirminghamChangesWeb.pdf .
The X20, X22, 23 and 24 will be platinum operated.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.
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