South Birmingham Consultation 2017

[MasterPlan]

Cheers, Stu!

[Mike K]

Looks like they put them up by mistake again.
As they've been taken down.

You couldn't make this up...

[MasterPlan]

You couldn't make this up...

NX are, as they go along...

[Steveminor]

Johnson's rd one going then　？

I wouldn't have thought so.
I mean these are draft proposals still & even at this late stage things could change hence nx not publishing yet.

Remember everyone wants to make sure they get things right.

[MasterPlan]

I wouldn't have thought so.
I mean these are draft proposals still & even at this late stage things could change hence nx not publishing yet.

Remember everyone wants to make sure they get things right.

Hasn't the route number X20 been registered though?

[Jack]

My original speculation of the 31  serving Redstone Farm Road rather than Pitmaston was correct. Pitmaston is a real joke.

Now the 61 is coming back would it mean that the Hybrid's will have their branding modified? To show 61/63 or 'Bristol Road'  oh and fitting them with next stop announcements for the 61/63 wouldnt be bad...they still have 22/23 announcements programmed in! 

I don't agree with there being ANOTHER X20 serving Birmingham in close correlation of the Johnsons X20. Fair play there was the two 56 routes, but the one only ran Mon-Sat daytimes and the other was just evenings and sundays only.

A new change I've just noticed is the withdrawal of the 6A. Fair play, never saw much point in that as people can easily change between the 5 and 6 along the Stratford Road vice versa.

The pointless X64 going is good sign, not really sure about the 98 though. But I don't all this curtailment to the 48, literally the route is serving the scraps of withdrawn routes.

The 37 been renumbered - can't wait for the confused users to realise their route is been renumbered so it can be 'simplified' = confusion.

[2206]

The 37 been renumbered - can't wait for the confused users to realise their route is been renumbered so it can be 'simplified' = confusion.

Perhaps they could do the same as what they did when they renumbered the 900 and 957.
And put Previously "New bus previously 37" on the side of the MMC to  reduce any initial confusion.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/31581683152/in/photolist-Q7Lo7u-21Fk36n-UamaPk-D8Kg8Z-T4araX-Tfyvo8

The 48 isn't being curtailed (shortened), the current route is being withdrawn, it will instead follow the current 84 route to Hawkesley (an improvement from 1bph to 2bph) then then the 27 via West Heath to Northfield.

[Mike K]

The pointless X64 going is good sign, not really sure about the 98 though. But I don't all this curtailment to the 48, literally the route is serving the scraps of withdrawn routes.

It isn't! A bit like Doctor Who, it's coming back in yet another incarnation cunningly disguised as the X21. The route isn't much different.

[cardew]

This X20 duplication is ludicrous, it is a tourist route which will be googled by those unfamiliar with the area. Yes, to be fair, any tourist considering the Johnsons X20 to get to Stratford rather than the train has probably not thought it through, but why even introduce the possible confusion? How about - top of my head - X25?

[2206]

It isn't! A bit like Doctor Who, it's coming back in yet another incarnation cunningly disguised as the X21. The route isn't much different.

The X20 doesn't appear to be much different from the 98 either, other than being limited stop along the Bristol Road South and replacing the X61 over that section.

[winston]

I copied and pasted the text from there and posted an article on my website:
http://westmidlandsbususers.co.uk/2018/06/south-birmingham-service-changes-from-22nd-july-2018/

When NX finally publish the final draft, I'll update my article accordingly.  ;D

Well done @Stu !

Nearly there... Third time lucky, NXWM might actually publish the completed version & finally leave it there!

Looks like the X61 Platinum's will be going on the X20 still serving the same areas with additional links & limited stop, Bristol Rd stopping services seem to have more buses with the 61/63 every 10 mins each

I think they need to remove 'New' from 'New Platinum Buses' quote

[Straightlines]

This X20 duplication is ludicrous, it is a tourist route which will be googled by those unfamiliar with the area. Yes, to be fair, any tourist considering the Johnsons X20 to get to Stratford rather than the train has probably not thought it through, but why even introduce the possible confusion? How about - top of my head - X25?

Word on the street is that it won't be a problem for too much longer...

However, as of yet the X20 is still registered with no forthcoming change on DVSA then I do agree this is ludicrous and just sums up the complete brashness attitude National Express has taken towards this review.

[Jack]

Perhaps they could do the same as what they did when they renumbered the 900 and 957.
And put Previously "New bus previously 37" on the side of the MMC to  reduce any initial confusion.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/31581683152/in/photolist-Q7Lo7u-21Fk36n-UamaPk-D8Kg8Z-T4araX-Tfyvo8

I think they should do that as well. Would mean a less confused number of users! They did the same for the 902/4/5/14.

It hasn't! A bit like Doctor Who, it's coming back in yet another incarnation cunningly disguised as the X21. The route isn't much different.

Eugh, you are right, the X64 will stay on, but does the new incarnation of the X64 seriously need an 'X'?!

I do wonder what route the 61/63 will do in city now it's been said Carrs Lane will no longer be served? Hopefully the new 4/A and 6 will share the 63 stop on Carrs Lane (the stop where the 37 use to terminate).

[monkeyjoe]

More and more computerised input maybe , who knows lol. The x20 is interesting

[Jack]

More and more computerised input maybe , who knows lol. The x20 is interesting

With two X20's it will certainly be interesting!