Presidents

[don]

Doubt it, I don't believe Dundee has recevied enough replacements to allow that to happen. I also understand 4076 at least is to see service well in to 2017.

I suspect quite a few will go very shortly. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Presuming the last two Geminis and 1787 return soon, they will have had 18 replacements so far, plus two coaches.

4076 was a paint float IIRC so maybe would continue longer.

[winston]

I suspect quite a few will go very shortly. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Presuming the last two Geminis and 1787 return soon, they will have had 18 replacements so far, plus two coaches.

I have 15 x Dundee Presidents left on reported withdrawals to date.

1787, 4713 & 4714 are all existing Dundee Fleet. I suspect the Dundee President will be reduced to circa 10 when those 3 return from WA refurb'd. I think the two coaches were required for an additional contract, therefore, they can't be included as fleet replacement.

[Jack6101]

Just seen a post on Facebook and4090 is on the outer circle aswell

[paulb1973]

I have 15 x Dundee Presidents left on reported withdrawals to date.

1787, 4713 & 4714 are all existing Dundee Fleet. I suspect the Dundee President will be reduced to circa 10 when those 3 return from WA refurb'd. I think the two coaches were required for an additional contract, therefore, they can't be included as fleet replacement.

These 15 I think: 4025-26/28/36/42/74/76/112/117-118/120-124.

So all the NXWM Presidents have gone (bar AG 4092 and seemingly 4090).

I had the following still left at AG: 4029/34/37-38/40/59-61/64/69/90-92/96 (x14)
And at WB these: 4027/48/52/54-55/81*/86/95/99/101/9 (x11)

I suspect 4081 & others were already gone.

[winston]

These 15 I think: 4025-26/28/36/42/74/76/112/117-118/120-124.

So all the NXWM Presidents have gone (bar AG 4092 and seemingly 4090).

I had the following still left at AG: 4029/34/37-38/40/59-61/64/69/90-92/96 (x14)
And at WB these: 4027/48/52/54-55/81*/86/95/99/101/9 (x11)

I suspect 4081 & others were already gone.

I agree with the Dundee Presidents, I had 14 left at AG & 9 left at WB. Can't confirm which as already updated my list.

[John]

Was following 3 or 4 Presidents going anticlockwise on the Ring Road earlier this afternoon. Carried straight on past Miller Street so could be Pensnett bound?

[winston]

Was following 3 or 4 Presidents going anticlockwise on the Ring Road earlier this afternoon. Carried straight on past Miller Street so could be Pensnett bound?

I'll leave it a couple of days, then I'll pop around to PN before Xmas day. I suspect they may see an influx whilst awaiting sale.

[paulb1973]

I agree with the Dundee Presidents, I had 14 left at AG & 9 left at WB. Can't confirm which as already updated my list.

20+ buses withdrawn in one fail-swoop seems a lot.

Looking on my own notes AG had a total of 155 vehicles;
50 E200MMC (2201-50)
14* President (4029/34/37-38/40/59-61/64/69/90-92/96)
13 B7/ALX (4292-304)
72 Gemini (4507-19/21-34; 4635-79)
6 E400MMC (6701-4/6-7)

Less the 14 Presidents that goes down to 141 (bar any further MMC arrivals from BC).


At WB I had a total of 165;
28 E200 (753-60; 812-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
11* President (4027/48/52/54-55/81/86/95/99/101/9)
37 B7/ALX (4225-36/46-51/54/57-63/65-75)
70 E400 (4738-62; 4914-25; 4950-82)

Less 11 Presidents [or however many were left] that falls to 154. Both garage totals seem a little low compared to the recent past.

[GeminiFan1991]

Can we expect more Presidents to be repainted into the Xplore Dundee livery ?

I heavily doubt NX would paint 4076 for a short term and then have it withdrawn so it makes me think that some of the existing buses at Dundee may be repainted.

[winston]

20+ buses withdrawn in one fail-swoop seems a lot.

Looking on my own notes AG had a total of 155 vehicles;
50 E200MMC (2201-50)
14* President (4029/34/37-38/40/59-61/64/69/90-92/96)
13 B7/ALX (4292-304)
72 Gemini (4507-19/21-34; 4635-79)
6 E400MMC (6701-4/6-7)

Less the 14 Presidents that goes down to 141 (bar any further MMC arrivals from BC).


At WB I had a total of 165;
28 E200 (753-60; 812-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
11* President (4027/48/52/54-55/81/86/95/99/101/9)
37 B7/ALX (4225-36/46-51/54/57-63/65-75)
70 E400 (4738-62; 4914-25; 4950-82)

Less 11 Presidents [or however many were left] that falls to 154. Both garage totals seem a little low compared to the recent past.

I make AG currently 144 & WB 156 based on known transfers reported thus far & President withdrawls. (updated with 4256 & 6708-10 transfer reports)

I think the AG allocation is normally nearer 145 ish & WB 163 ish.

[2900]

20+ buses withdrawn in one fail-swoop seems a lot.

Looking on my own notes AG had a total of 155 vehicles;
50 E200MMC (2201-50)
14* President (4029/34/37-38/40/59-61/64/69/90-92/96)
13 B7/ALX (4292-304)
72 Gemini (4507-19/21-34; 4635-79)
6 E400MMC (6701-4/6-7)

Less the 14 Presidents that goes down to 141 (bar any further MMC arrivals from BC).


At WB I had a total of 165;
28 E200 (753-60; 812-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
11* President (4027/48/52/54-55/81/86/95/99/101/9)
37 B7/ALX (4225-36/46-51/54/57-63/65-75)
70 E400 (4738-62; 4914-25; 4950-82)

Less 11 Presidents [or however many were left] that falls to 154. Both garage totals seem a little low compared to the recent past.

it might seem a lot 20 or so plackys going at once from Christmas Eve it's Saturday services with a couple of days reduced to Sunday service so vehicle pvr is much reduced , gives the paint shop a bit of time to get those buses at Walsall ready for after New Years I assume

[winston]

it might seem a lot 20 or so plackys going at once from Christmas Eve it's Saturday services with a couple of days reduced to Sunday service so vehicle pvr is much reduced , gives the paint shop a bit of time to get those buses at Walsall ready for after New Years I assume

The paintshop is normally closed all over Xmas and doesn't re-open until Jan.

[paulb1973]

I make AG currently 144 & WB 156 based on known transfers reported thus far & President withdrawls. (updated with 4256 & 6708-10 transfer reports)

I think the AG allocation is normally nearer 145 ish & WB 163 ish.

I have 144 at AG (less the 14 Presidents).

At West Brom I now have 155 buses including 4256, unless I've missed a transfer;
28 E200 (753-60; 812-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
38 B7/ALX (4225-36/46-51/54/56-63/65-75)
70 E400 (4738-62; 4914-25; 4950-82)

[winston]

At West Brom I now have 155 buses including 4256, unless I've missed a transfer;
28 E200 (753-60; 812-22/31-9)
19 Scania (1918/36-53)
38 B7/ALX (4225-36/46-51/54/56-63/65-75)
70 E400 (4738-62; 4914-25; 4950-82)

You're correct, I still have 4264 allocated to WB

[paulb1973]

You're correct, I still have 4264 allocated to WB

Yeah, that and 4255 are withdrawn. I don't have any locations for these more recent non-President 41/42xx withdrawals (other than 4255 being at MS). The situation is very fluid at the moment!