NXWM Changes 24/07/16

[Steve3229vp]

I don't understand even now what the point was in changing the route numbers the 3xx and 5xx etc was a good system. Now you just have stupid duplication of route numbers etc like the 31 in brum 31 in Walsall.  Don't see what the need to mess about with a perfectly good system was ?

I agree entirely, the system for 2xx for Dudley/Stourbridge, 3xx for Walsall, 4xx for Sandwell and 5xx for Wolverhampton was a good system

[Stuharris 6360]

I agree entirely, the system for 2xx for Dudley/Stourbridge, 3xx for Walsall, 4xx for Sandwell and 5xx for Wolverhampton was a good system

Totally agree, pity the poor guy who has to visit all the bus stops between Dudley & Walsall just to remove a 3 from the flags, they must have better work that he could be doing like changing all the worn out faded flags!!

[2206]

I wonder if the X10 will get the full treatment including new Platinum Spec double deckers?

I've heard rumors that it will.

[P419 EJW]

I don't understand even now what the point was in changing the route numbers the 3xx and 5xx etc was a good system. Now you just have stupid duplication of route numbers etc like the 31 in brum 31 in Walsall.  Don't see what the need to mess about with a perfectly good system was ?

I vehemently concur; the old number system was brilliant. I've said the same to drivers whilst discussing about the upcoming changes. One said "Apparently it is expensive to have three digit numbers." I think that's an amusing response but who knows... Hmm... ::)

[Tony]

I vehemently concur; the old number system was brilliant. I've said the same to drivers whilst discussing about the upcoming changes. One said "Apparently it is expensive to have three digit numbers." I think that's an amusing response but who knows... Hmm... ::)

What baffles me is why NXWM having duplicate numbers is alleged to confuse locals and annoy enthusiasts, yet loads of other companies do, including Arriva Midlands, but it is OK for them

[Stuharris 6360]

What baffles me is why NXWM having duplicate numbers is alleged to confuse locals and annoy enthusiasts, yet loads of other companies do, including Arriva Midlands, but it is OK for them

yes but is it NXWM who is making these decisions or Network West Midlands.

It was in the early 1970s that WMPTE said they wanted to standardise numbers to avoid confusion and the 2xx Dudley 5xx Wolverhampton scheme worked very well, IMO if the system ain't broken, don't try and mend it!

[Westy]

Totally agree, pity the poor guy who has to visit all the bus stops between Dudley & Walsall just to remove a 3 from the flags, they must have better work that he could be doing like changing all the worn out faded flags!!

Wouldnt they do new flags anyway?

[Stuharris 6360]

Wouldnt they do new flags anyway?

probably but it still seems a waste of time.

[Stu]

I don't understand even now what the point was in changing the route numbers the 3xx and 5xx etc was a good system. Now you just have stupid duplication of route numbers etc like the 31 in brum 31 in Walsall.  Don't see what the need to mess about with a perfectly good system was ?

But those two examples are routes nowhere near each other (geographically). You'd have to be very dim to get those mixed up. There are bus route 31s all over the country, would people get those confused with each other?

yes but is it NXWM who is making these decisions or Network West Midlands.

I believe it is Centro/Network West Midlands who are doing this, on the back of feedback received from passengers. It's not being done for a laugh. The idea I believe is to give each area it's own 'local network'.

One said "Apparently it is expensive to have three digit numbers." I think that's an amusing response but who knows... Hmm... ::)

Sounds like someone trying to pull your leg! I've suggested this before, but with most buses having digital destination displays now (whether LED or flipdot), a three digit route number takes up a lot of room on the display, so having a one or two-digit route number allows more room for the destination and via points to be displayed clearly. That's my theory anyway! ;)

[Westy]

The 31 & 32 details are slightly incorrect, unless they are extending both routes onto the Turnberry & interworking?

[Bob]

What baffles me is why NXWM having duplicate numbers is alleged to confuse locals and annoy enthusiasts, yet loads of other companies do, including Arriva Midlands, but it is OK for them

Arriva never had the good system (2xx 3xx) that the west midlands have

[Metroman]

Where can we see the stops of the new X10 route?

[Other Walsall Tony]

No mention of the WA40 being replaced by the 33?  Or have I missed something?

[Stuharris 6360]

Where can we see the stops of the new X10 route?

@Metroman , Karl says

Colmore row all stops to five ways
First stop Hagley road after five ways under pass
Ivy bush
Portland road
Gillett road
Sandon road
Bearwood after lights
Wolverhampton road
Jeffersons
Quinton.

Sure that is similar to the old X2, 902 Limited stop services between Birmingham & Hasbury

[karl724223]

@Metroman , Karl says

Colmore row all stops to five ways
First stop Hagley road after five ways under pass
Ivy bush
Portland road
Gillett road
Sandon road
Bearwood after lights
Wolverhampton road
Jeffersons
Quinton.

Sure that is similar to the old X2, 902 Limited stop services between Birmingham & Hasbury

they were only my thoughts