NXWM Changes 24/07/16

[Stuharris 6360]

    PD0001111/13 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Alumwell given service number 36 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/17 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton and Ashmore Park given service number 59 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/20 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Bloxwich given service number 70/70A effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/24 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Kitwell given service number 22/22S/23 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/27 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Woodgate Valley North given service number 24 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/29 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Mossley to Walsall and Mossley to Walsall given service number 31/32 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/30 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Solihull Rail Station given service number 957 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/32 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham Inner Circle and Birmingham Inner Circle given service number 8A/8C effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/36 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Chelmsley Wood given service number 70 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/39 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Woodgate and Birmingham City Centre given service number X64 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.


    PD0001111/41 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Northfield and Birmingham City Centre given service number 29/29S effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/42 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Bilston or Willenhall given service number 34/37/39 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/43 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Cranes Park and Birmingham City Centre given service number 60 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/45 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Chelmsley Wood/Resorts World given service number 97/97A/97S effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/52 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Solihull given service number 58 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/56 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Willenhall given service number 41 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/66 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Dudley, Bus Station and Walsall, Bradford Place given service number 11/13 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/91 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Burntwood to Walsall and Burntwood to Walsall given service number 10/10A effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/104 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Dudley and Birmingham or Halesowen given service number 140/241 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/106 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre and Rubery Great Park given service number 98 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.


    PD0001111/112 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Frankley and Birmingham City Centre given service number 61/63 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/123 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Longbridge and Birmingham City Centre given service number 45/47/47S effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/222 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Wolverhampton given service number 69 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/279 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between West Bromwich to Merry Hill and West Bromwich to Merry Hill given service number 289 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/383 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Birmingham City Centre given service number 99 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/407 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale and Erdington given service number 38 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/449 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Hayley Green to Dudley and Hayley Green to Dudley given service number 243/244 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
    PD0001111/504 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Blackheath, Halesowen or Merry Hill given service number 4/4H/4M effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/649 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall and Pelsall or Wolverhampton given service number 8/89 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/654 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre and Solihull given service number 73 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


    PD0001111/668 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Kingshurst and Birmingham City Centre given service number 59 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
    PD0001111/670 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton to Willenhall and Wolverhampton to Willenhall given service number 28 effective from 24-Jul-2016.
    PD0001111/693 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Walsgrave Hospital and Chapelfields given service number 1 effective from 24-Jul-2016.
    PD0001111/707 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Boney Hay and Birmingham given service number X56 effective from 24-Jul-2016.
    PD0001111/723 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Digbeth and City Centre given service number 875 effective from 24-Jul-2016.
    PD0001111/732 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Morrisons and Finham Park given service number FP2 effective from 24-Jul-2016.
    PD0001111/750 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Registration Accepted
        Starting Point: Birmingham
        Finish Point: Pensnett
        Via: Halesowen and Merry Hill
        Service Number: X10
        Service Type: Limited Stop
        Effective Date: 24-JUL-2016
        Other Details: New Service

[Dom]

How very interesting.

So all the proposed Walsall look to be going ahead. I imagine the timetable changes will be summer timetables.

Ive noticed from the X10, finishing point Pensnett? All journeys or just some? We'll have to wait and see.

[Stuharris 6360]

How very interesting.

So all the proposed Walsall look to be going ahead. I imagine the timetable changes will be summer timetables.

Ive noticed from the X10, finishing point Pensnett? All journeys or just some? We'll have to wait and see.

Also strangely no cancellation notice for the 141, although I suppose that could appear on another day.

[Dom]

Also strangely no cancellation notice for the 141, although I suppose that could appear on another day.

Yes I thought the same, unless they are keeping it, which would be better for those looking for specific stops on Hagley road or Quinton.

[winston]

Also strangely no cancellation notice for the 141, although I suppose that could appear on another day.

Isn't the 141 on the same registration as the 140 / 241? That has a route & timetable change planned.

I wonder if the X10 will get the full treatment including new Platinum Spec double deckers?

[Dom]

I wonder if the X10 will get the full treatment including new Platinum Spec double deckers?

I have heard rumours that 3302-3305 are due soon and are to be branded for the X10 (Driver talk though so can't rely on it ;D )

[Kevin]

So the Walsall services appear to be renumbered, expected. But route changes as well?

[P419 EJW]

So the Walsall services appear to be renumbered, expected. But route changes as well?

I would assume the 89 would miss out Trevor Road section and to be re-routed to Bentley Bridge. A driver friend at Walsall showed me the updated destination on 4105 and 4127. The LED displayed "9 Walsall via Wednesfield, Bloxwich, and Pelsall" and "9 Wolverhampton via Pelsall, Bloxwich, Wednesfield, and Bentley Bridge Retail Park". The flipdot matrix displays the same via points but the difference is that it displays "Bentley Bridge". He discovered this on 4105 by accident because he was changing from 89 to 8 and he accidentally pressed one more time to "9" and it worked.

[Dom]

I would assume the 89 would miss out Trevor Road section and to be re-routed to Bentley Bridge. A driver friend at Walsall showed me the updated destination on 4105 and 4127. The LED displayed "9 Walsall via Wednesfield, Bloxwich, and Pelsall" and "9 Wolverhampton via Pelsall, Bloxwich, Wednesfield, and Bentley Bridge Retail Park". The flipdot matrix displays the same via points but the difference is that it displays "Bentley Bridge". He discovered this on 4105 by accident because he was changing from 89 to 8 and he accidentally pressed one more time to "9" and it worked.

Scrolling?

[Trident 4609]

I would assume the 89 would miss out Trevor Road section and to be re-routed to Bentley Bridge. A driver friend at Walsall showed me the updated destination on 4105 and 4127. The LED displayed "9 Walsall via Wednesfield, Bloxwich, and Pelsall" and "9 Wolverhampton via Pelsall, Bloxwich, Wednesfield, and Bentley Bridge Retail Park". The flipdot matrix displays the same via points but the difference is that it displays "Bentley Bridge". He discovered this on 4105 by accident because he was changing from 89 to 8 and he accidentally pressed one more time to "9" and it worked.

It appears it is staying as the 89 looking at the registration (which is sensible considering there is already the Arriva 9 that serves Wolverhampton)

[P419 EJW]

Scrolling?

The LED via points were scrolling.

It appears it is staying as the 89 looking at the registration (which is sensible considering there is already the Arriva 9 that serves Wolverhampton)

Hmm, then why the "9" was there? I reckon it will change to 9 to suit the route numbers on Lichfield Road - 8, 9, 10, 10A - (I do not know whether if this is true or not).

[NXWM Spectra]

It appears it is staying as the 89 looking at the registration (which is sensible considering there is already the Arriva 9 that serves Wolverhampton)

I don't think the route numbers change on the registration. I'm happy to be proven wrong if this has happened before though.

This is similar to the questions asked every time a terminus changes but the registration does not change and people never fail to ask if the route change is going ahead or not.

[Trident 4609]

The LED via points were scrolling.

Hmm, then why the "9" was there? I reckon it will change to 9 to suit the route numbers on Lichfield Road - 8, 9, 10, 10A - (I do not know whether if this is true or not).

The reason i say, if you look at the registrations, all the other WA changes have the updated numbers, the 89 is still shown on the reg. Guess will find out soon enough.

Also, i noticed the number 37 in the Darlaston Changes?

@NXWM Spectra they've changed on the other WA routes that are changing

[NXWM Spectra]

The reason i say, if you look at the registrations, all the other WA changes have the updated numbers, the 89 is still shown on the reg. Guess will find out soon enough.

Also, i noticed the number 37 in the Darlaston Changes?

@NXWM Spectra they've changed on the other WA routes that are changing

You're right. But surely the 9 wouldn't have been put into the displays if the number wasn't changing?

[Bob]

I don't understand even now what the point was in changing the route numbers the 3xx and 5xx etc was a good system. Now you just have stupid duplication of route numbers etc like the 31 in brum 31 in Walsall.  Don't see what the need to mess about with a perfectly good system was ?