If you had the chance to modify or add any service, what would you do?

[Tony]

Which would operate via the Bristol Road not the University.

read what Steve put

New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98

[2206]

read what Steve put

New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98

The suggestion says,
One would operate via Bristol Road - 15 minute frequency, via the current X64 route.
The other via the University and Five Ways - 15 minute frequency, via the current 98 route.

[Tony]

The suggestion says,
One would operate via Bristol Road - 15 minute frequency, via the current X64 route.
The other via the University and Five Ways - 15 minute frequency, via the current 98 route.

Both services would terminate a Grand Central in City and would operate every 15 minutes each. With both services having a similar journey time from City to QE Hospital and Selly Oak it would combine to give a 7/8 frequency.

[2206]

Both services would terminate a Grand Central in City and would operate every 15 minutes each. With both services having a similar journey time from City to QE Hospital and Selly Oak it would combine to give a 7/8 frequency.

Which suggests there would be a 7/8 minute frequency at the stops between QE and Selly Oak for buses towards Grand Central.

New Service 21 City to Bartley Green via 98 route to QE Hospital then as route X64
New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98
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[Tony]

Which suggests there would be a 7/8 minute frequency at the stops between QE and Selly Oak for buses towards Grand Central.

New Service 21 City to Bartley Green via 98 route to QE Hospital then as route X64
New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98
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No it doesn't
62 via the X64 route between Rubery/Rednal and Selly Oak then via the 98 route. Steve clearly states his idea would give a 7/8 minute service to the hospital as I quoted above

[2206]

No it doesn't
62 via the X64 route between Rubery/Rednal and Selly Oak then via the 98 route. Steve clearly states his idea would give a 7/8 minute service to the hospital as I quoted above

My mistake then, but the 62 would give a 15 minute frequency between City Centre and the hospital via Five Way and the University then which is a frequency reduction as the 98/99 operate every 10 minutes at the moment.

[Tony]

My mistake then, but the 62 would give a 15 minute frequency via Five Way and the University then which is a frequency reduction as the 98/99 operate every 10 minutes at the moment.

No - it would increase it to 7/8 with the 21 in Steve's idea, not difficult when that is what he actually stated

[2206]

No - it would increase it to 7/8 with the 21 in Steve's idea, not difficult when that is what he actually stated

If the 21 followed the X64 route it wouldn't go to Five Ways or, the University, the suggestion says it would follow the current X64 route between the QE and City Centre.

[Tony]

The 21 wouldn't go to Five Ways or, the University as as the suggestion says it would follow the current X64 route between the QE and City Centre, the X64.

Have you actually read it?

Here it is again
How about this for a radical idea

New Service 21 City to Bartley Green via 98 route to QE Hospital then as route X64
New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98
Both services would terminate a Grand Central in City and would operate every 15 minutes each. With both services having a similar journey time from City to QE Hospital and Selly Oak it would combine to give a 7/8 frequency.

New service 219 Halesowen to QE Hospital via 99 route every 20 minutes

Routes 98, 99 and X64 withdrawn.

[2206]

Have you actually read it?

Here it is again
How about this for a radical idea

New Service 21 City to Bartley Green via 98 route to QE Hospital then as route X64
New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98
Both services would terminate a Grand Central in City and would operate every 15 minutes each. With both services having a similar journey time from City to QE Hospital and Selly Oak it would combine to give a 7/8 frequency.

New service 219 Halesowen to QE Hospital via 99 route every 20 minutes

Routes 98, 99 and X64 withdrawn.

Yes that says, from the City Centre the 62 would operate via the Bristol Road as the X64 to the QE, then as the 98 to Rednal/Rubery every 15 minutes.
The 21 would operate as the 98 from the City Centre to the QE  then as the X64 to Bartley Green which would mean a frequency reduction from every 10 minutes (98/99) to every 15 minutes (21).

Also they have a similar journey time to QE/Selly Oak so would combine to give a 7/8 minute frequency between the QE and Selly Oak.

[Tony]

Yes that says, from the City Centre the 62 would operate via the Bristol Road as the X64 to the QE, then as the 98 to Rednal/Rubery every 15 minutes.
The 21 would operate as the 98 from the City Centre to the QE  then as the X64 to Bartley Green which would mean a frequency reduction from every 10 minutes (98/99) to every 15 minutes (21).

I am beginning to give up!

Both services via the 98 route to Selly Oak then the 21 carries on to Bartley Green and the 62 to Rubery - is how I read it. Steve clarifies this by actually stating it would give a 7/8 minute service to the Hospital

[Adam 404]

I am beginning to give up!

Both services via the 98 route to Selly Oak then the 21 carries on to Bartley Green and the 62 to Rubery - is how I read it. Steve clarifies this by actually stating it would give a 7/8 minute service to the Hospital

New Service 21 City to Bartley Green via 98 route to QE Hospital then as route X64
New Service 62 City to Rednal and Rubery via X64 route to QE Hospital, then as route 98
Both services would terminate a Grand Central in City and would operate every 15 minutes each. With both services having a similar journey time from City to QE Hospital and Selly Oak it would combine to give a 7/8 frequency.

From what I have read I am assuming that the 21 would go via Edgbaston Park road to get to Q.E. as per the 98 and the 62 would run via Bristol Road to Q.E.

[sryan188]

I quite like that idea living by the Bristol Road routes but what i would do is change the following.

Change the 99 to the 20 route unchanged route every 20 minutes
21 via 98 route to QE then via 48 route to Weoley Castle then X64 route to Bartley Green every 20 minutes
22/23/24 unchanged
25 new route via 29 route to Weoley Castle then via 48 route to Northfield where it will terminate. every 15 minutes
- 20/21 still give a 10 minute frequency to the QE

45 unchanged but lower frequency at every 15 minutes
46 or 48? new route running to Kings Norton Station from City as per 45/47 then via 49 route to Longbridge every 15 minutes
47 unchanged but lower frequency at every 15 minutes
- 45/46/47 give a 5 minute frequency between City and Kings Norton Station

61 rerouted to serve Holly Hill Road instead of New Street every 10 minutes
62 replacing 98 but running via X64 route to Selly Oak then the 98 route to Rubery Flyover then via Cock Hill Lane, Ormond Road, Arden Road, New Street, Rubery Lane to Great Park. Every 15 minutes
63 unchanged every 10 minutes
64 as X64 to Weoley Castle then via 29 route to Northfield then via Borrowdale/Norrington Rd's, Frankley Beeches Road, Hollymoor Way, New Street, Arden Road to Frankley every 15 minutes
- 62/64 give a 7-8 minute frequency from City to the QE via Bristol Road
- 61/63 give a 5 minute frequency along the Bristol Road through Selly Oak to Northfield

I would also change the 19 from Longbridge to operate via the 42 route to Rubery then through Great Park to Frankley Arden Road meaning the 42 can be withdrawn.

48 curtailed to QE Hospital
49 curtailed to Kings Norton Station
29/X64/98/99 withdrawn

Thought i would note down what my thoughts where.......

[Alex]

Having talked to a friend who lives in Gornal Wood, I'd came up with a few suggestions that could potentially be implemented in the Dudley review:

205 renumbered to 20, and reduced overall to hourly.
New services 20A & 20C introduced operating Dudley, Russells Hall Estate, Russells Hall Hospital, Pensnett Trading Estate, Gornal Wood, Wrens Nest, Dudley (20C), then the inverse as 20A

X96 reduced to Dudley to Wollaston Farm, 20A/20C covering the Wrens Nest section

224 extended from Sedgley to Merry Hill Centre, via Stickley, Gornal Wood, Tansey Green Road, Russells Hall Hospital & Brierley Hill

Just a couple of suggestions...

[Sh4318]

Having talked to a friend who lives in Gornal Wood, I'd came up with a few suggestions that could potentially be implemented in the Dudley review:

205 renumbered to 20, and reduced overall to hourly.
New services 20A & 20C introduced operating Dudley, Russells Hall Estate, Russells Hall Hospital, Pensnett Trading Estate, Gornal Wood, Wrens Nest, Dudley (20C), then the inverse as 20A

X96 reduced to Dudley to Wollaston Farm, 20A/20C covering the Wrens Nest section

224 extended from Sedgley to Merry Hill Centre, via Stickley, Gornal Wood, Tansey Green Road, Russells Hall Hospital & Brierley Hill

Just a couple of suggestions...

You'd reduce the number of buses from Wrens Nest to Dudley from 6 to 4? (5 if you want to travel all the way around the circular)