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Alexander Dennis Enviro400 Discussion

Started by Stuharris 6360, May 01, 2014, 09:45:59 PM

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wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)

Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
But the point is PN need to get rid of mercs as well as WB

Well if PE don't loose any more E400's when all the MMC's are introduced they'll still have a gain overall to loose a few Mercs won't they?

Tony

Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 06, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
Seems the pecking order is consistent.

I don't see why the Dudley Rd routes should get ANOTHER upgrade when they were upgraded in 2006, when other potentially busier corridors have had jack since the early 2000s.

So in a @monkeyjoe world putting refurbished 9 year old buses on a route is disgusting (Geminis on 94) but putting 8 year old unrefurbished buses on a route is a biased upgrade

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on March 06, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 08:03:56 PM
But the point is PN need to get rid of mercs as well as WB

Well if PE don't loose any more E400's when all the MMC's are introduced they'll still have a gain overall to loose a few Mercs won't they?

I thought it was 22 MMCs for 22 09 Enviros to PB, so no net gain or loss?
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Liberator9

Delighted to see YW are going to receive new double decks at last; however disappointed to see that the Enviro 400s are instead leaving instead of going to upgrade the 2/3/76 really, seeing off some Presidents and Tridents.

However this will likely mean the YW Scania Omnilinks will be refurbished soon I reckon leading to the 6 and 27 seeing a nice little upgrade in interior quality. That can happen once YW are done sending off their remaining old NX livery repaint Tridents, they can move straight on to the Omnilinks considering there won't be a need to re do the more worn out E400s from the 50. Although if they do that put them in the new livery; would mean the 6 could be seen as "upgraded"!  ;)


Mike K

Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 06, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
Seems the pecking order is consistent.

I don't see why the Dudley Rd routes should get ANOTHER upgrade when they were upgraded in 2006, when other potentially busier corridors have had jack since the early 2000s.

2007 E400s for 2006 Geminis is a downgrade.

monkeyjoe

Actually may have been quick to judge if it means the 11 will move to all Gem's.

winston

Quote from: Mike K on March 06, 2015, 08:44:11 PM
[quote adeliveredkeyjoe link=topic=2834.msg133695#msg133695 date=1425671017]
Seems the pecking order is consistent.

I don't see why the Dudley Rd routes should get ANOTHER upgrade when they were upgraded in 2006, when other potentially busier corridors have had jack since the early 2000s.

2007 E400s for 2006 Geminis is a downgrade.
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The WB Gemini's have been repainted & most refurb'd since new. The YW ex 50 E400's will come with original paintwork & moquette

Ashley 60171

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 06, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 06, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 06, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Today's announcement from the MD on the new vehicle front was
26 E400MMCs for Yardley Wood for the 50 arriving from Mid April onwards
E400s currently on the 50 moving to West Bromwich for the Dudley Road services
So where are them gems off to ?

My bet would be to WN to see off the Spectra's!

Why introduce a new type to WN when tridents should be able to transfer in with all the new orders I'd have thought?!
Cv for the gems to see off some tridents to PE

Doubt that because it would involve repainting all the buses. I still think someway will be found to throw up more Tridents so they can go to WN to see off the Spectra's with excess to PE to further see off the Mercs??!!

Also depends what happens next week when PEs E400s are transferred to PB, yes the Bendis are going, but what about the excess?

May as well throw in my ten pence worth. ALX400's from PB to WB perhaps. I'm sure WN will get its Spectra replacements from somewhere

Ronnoc

Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 06, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 06, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 06, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 06, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 07:39:03 PM
Today's announcement from the MD on the new vehicle front was
26 E400MMCs for Yardley Wood for the 50 arriving from Mid April onwards
E400s currently on the 50 moving to West Bromwich for the Dudley Road services
So where are them gems off to ?

My bet would be to WN to see off the Spectra's!

Why introduce a new type to WN when tridents should be able to transfer in with all the new orders I'd have thought?!
Cv for the gems to see off some tridents to PE

Doubt that because it would involve repainting all the buses. I still think someway will be found to throw up more Tridents so they can go to WN to see off the Spectra's with excess to PE to further see off the Mercs??!!

Also depends what happens next week when PEs E400s are transferred to PB, yes the Bendis are going, but what about the excess?

May as well throw in my ten pence worth. ALX400's from PB to WB perhaps. I'm sure WN will get its Spectra replacements from somewhere

An idea would be that the ALX400's in YW stay on the same routes but at WB the Gemini's see somewhere else, or maybe they can get introduced to Pensnett.

Sh4318

Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 06, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
Seems the pecking order is consistent.

I don't see why the Dudley Rd routes should get ANOTHER upgrade when they were upgraded in 2006, when other potentially busier corridors have had jack since the early 2000s.

Yay!  ;D, this is great news. Maybe I will opt for the 87 rather than the train in the future then. Sunday allocations at WB are going to become very interesting
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
"Around the corner" routes: 21, 89
Local routes: 12/A, 48/A
Semi-local routes: 54, 80, 87

Most used routes in bold

Sayeed

Out of interest, is NX going to keep demo, YX64 AOO?
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MW

I reckon the WB Geminis will be coming to AG. If so, that's excellent news. I should be on the road at NX in 6-8 weeks so that would be exciting :)

andrew1991

Quote from: Sayeed on March 07, 2015, 02:08:09 AM
Out of interest, is NX going to keep demo, YX64 AOO?

More than likely a no, it left weeks ago

Trident 4194

I also think the b7tl will leave pb for wb

Trident 4609

Or WB could keep the Gemini's to see off their Mercs?

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