Service Changes from 27th April

[Tony]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

[Stuharris 6360]

99

[Liverpool Street]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

Are these the south Birmingham routes though? Or black country routes? I don't know anymore :(

[Stuharris 6360]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

Are these the south Birmingham routes though? Or black country routes? I don't know anymore :(

You couldn't call the 98 a Black Country route LS?

[winston]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

Are these the south Birmingham routes though? Or black country routes? I don't know anymore :(

LS, I suspect the 98 being referred to is the Centro tendered 98 that Diamond currently run Ward End - Small Heath

[nitromatt1]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

The 99, I was not aware VIP had been on the 98

[trident4370]

^^ This is exactly why route number duplications were a bad idea!

[sonic84]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

The 99, I was not aware VIP had been on the 98

Would it be Diamond's 98 Ward End - Small heath which has been transferred to WMSNT as no journeys on NX's 98 are tendered?

[the trainbasher]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

The 99, I was not aware VIP had been on the 98

Would it be Diamond's 98 Ward End - Small heath which has been transferred to WMSNT as no journeys on NX's 98 are tendered?

Yes...it runs alongside parts of the 28 (E&S) sections of route IIRC

[Liverpool Street]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

Are these the south Birmingham routes though? Or black country routes? I don't know anymore :(

LS, I suspect the 98 being referred to is the Centro tendered 98 that Diamond currently run Ward End - Small Heath

That's what I meant... why did I say Black Country? Sorry folks

[winston]

NX have also gained 424 and 650 routes

Do you know any other tender outcomes?

NX gained 99 evenings, 98 to WMSNT, Diamond retained 71, 72 and 66a evenings

99 late nights or what? 98 Rubery - Town, care to elaborate?

Presume it's the journeys that were lost by VIP last year and were put out to emergency tender.

Including Sundays then?

On the 98?

Are these the south Birmingham routes though? Or black country routes? I don't know anymore :(

LS, I suspect the 98 being referred to is the Centro tendered 98 that Diamond currently run Ward End - Small Heath

That's what I meant... why did I say Black Country? Sorry folks

It's stupid having so many services with the same route numbers, don't know why Centro had to mess. Has it really made that much difference to passenger numbers or created even more confusion?

[Steve3229vp]

I have to agree, the previous numbering system of 200's (Dudley), 300's (Walsall), 400's (Sandwell), 500's (Wolverhampton) was a good system, it should have been left alone, I saw an OAP picking up a 7 timetable in Walsall Bus Station, I just noticed that it was the City to Perry Common service 7 where as she wanted the 7 Walsall to Castlefort service. All this could have been avoided.

[Liverpool Street]

I have to agree, the previous numbering system of 200's (Dudley), 300's (Walsall), 400's (Sandwell), 500's (Wolverhampton) was a good system, it should have been left alone, I saw an OAP picking up a 7 timetable in Walsall Bus Station, I just noticed that it was the City to Perry Common service 7 where as she wanted the 7 Walsall to Castlefort service. All this could have been avoided.

I know right? Did people really find it so hard to remember one additional number? Again, it's graduates with degrees in power. As I'm sure you can imagine, I'd much further respect management when they've worked up from the bottom of a business. Not come in upper management straight from a poxy University. The old way was the best way.

[Roy]

Some changes are starting to appear on VOSA

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        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Colmore Row and Kitwell, Herlech Close given service number 22/23/23a effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/27 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between City Centre, Colmore Row and Woodgate Valley North ,Simmonds Dr given service number 24 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/28 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Town Hall and Acocks Green Village, Haslocks Green Rd given service number 1/899 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend
Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/38 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Corporation Street and Birmingham, Hawkesley Shannon Road given service number 35 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/39 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Corporation Street and Woodgate, Wood Lane and Woodcock Hill Moors Lane given service number X64 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/41 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Colmore Row and Frankley Holly Hill given service number 29/29A/29S effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/46 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Yardley Wood Garage and Bartley Green, Romsley Road given service number 18/18A effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/69 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham City Centre, Corporation Street and Solihull, Rail Station given service number 6 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/70 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Carrs Lane and Maypole, Maypole Lane given service number 2 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/106 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Corporation Street and Rubery Great Park, Parkway given service number 98 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/70 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Carrs Lane and Maypole, Maypole Lane given service number 2 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/106 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Corporation Street and Rubery Great Park, Parkway given service number 98 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/112 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Corporation Street and Gannow, Crompton Road given service number 61/63 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/123 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, High Street and Cofton Hackett given service number 45/47/47S effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001111/131 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Sutton Coldfield, Lower Parade and West Bromwich, Bus Station given service number 5 effective from 04-May-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/139 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Willenhall Remembrance Road and Coventry, Wood End Deedmore Road given service number 21/21s effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/383 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between University Station, Queen Elizabeth Hospital and Rowley Regis Station(/Hagley Road Haley Green given service number 99/98 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/495 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Jaguar Landrover and Northfield Shopping Centre given service number 49 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/565 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Solihull and Queen Elizabeth Hospital given service number 76 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

PD0001111/617 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Carrs Lane and Solihull Station given service number 5/5A effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/642 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
       Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Carrs Lane and Shirley, Green Business Park given service number 3 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/654 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Heartlands Hospital and Solihull Station given service number 73 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0001111/681 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Corporation Street and Solihull/Shirley given service number 31 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0001111/699 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
    Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry City Centre and Toll Bar End given service number 27A effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.

Additional NXWM registrations added, Winston

[paulb1973]

I have to agree, the previous numbering system of 200's (Dudley), 300's (Walsall), 400's (Sandwell), 500's (Wolverhampton) was a good system, it should have been left alone, I saw an OAP picking up a 7 timetable in Walsall Bus Station, I just noticed that it was the City to Perry Common service 7 where as she wanted the 7 Walsall to Castlefort service. All this could have been avoided.

I know right? Did people really find it so hard to remember one additional number? Again, it's graduates with degrees in power. As I'm sure you can imagine, I'd much further respect management when they've worked up from the bottom of a business. Not come in upper management straight from a poxy University. The old way was the best way.

Even just a separate number for each and every route would have been better, without the 200/300/400 etc system - a-la London style. 1-250 or 300 or something with only the Coventry system being numerically separate (as its always been).