NX Hybrids

[nitromatt1]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

[Sh4318]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

I've been on both  :P

[John]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

I've been on both and like the Volvo better than the Enviro

[Stuharris 6360]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

Have always liked the Enviro 400, whether in normal or hybrid, very nice ride and very quiet to.

[nitromatt1]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

I've been on both  :P

Did you choose the B5? If so why? :)

[nitromatt1]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

Have always liked the Enviro 400, whether in normal or hybrid, very nice ride and very quiet to.

Yeah in my opinion any Dennis/ADL bus in the last 7/8 years has been better than the Volvo equivalent

[Stevo]

5513 - The Enviro 400H has no gears - the engine drives only the generator which charges the batteries. What I like about the B5LH is that it starts off as an electric bus. If the E400H did that I might change my vote.

[Stuharris 6360]

5513 - The Enviro 400H has no gears - the engine drives only the generator which charges the batteries. What I like about the B5LH is that it starts off as an electric bus. If the E400H did that I might change my vote.

So exactly how does the E400H save money over a conventional bus?

[Mike K]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

I've been on both  :P

Did you choose the B5? If so why? :)

I've been on both dozens of times as I live on the 22/23 routes. I voted B5 but it's a difficult call, both are good and have their merits. Upper deck legroom on the B5 just about swung it for me.

[4006]

5513 - The Enviro 400H has no gears - the engine drives only the generator which charges the batteries. What I like about the B5LH is that it starts off as an electric bus. If the E400H did that I might change my vote.

So exactly how does the E400H save money over a conventional bus?

As opposed to the stop start B5LH of the Volvo as far as I know the system works in tandem on the E400H so even though there is no stop start the battery operation is incorporated into the diesel working which ultimately in my opinion gives a much smoother more consistant ride and still giving a better economy over a conventional bus. Weather this is comparable to the B5 is debateable only the statastitions will know. I also believe the Enviro 400H are 4.6cc similar to the B5's where conventionals are 6LTR. I do not have the specs so maybe someone more in the 'know' can confirm??

[4006]

For Info...

Several E400 in service today...5411/14/16

Here is one:
Appolologies For quality Again:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8644250722/in/photostream

It seams there has been a lot of activity today what with 3 in service and all the others being washed as if ready for use in service!!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8644250654/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8644250810/in/photostream/

Regards

[Trident 4609]

Are 5410-19 branded then 5420/21 unbranded which will be used as spares on the 59?

[Sh4318]

I think most of the people who voted for the B5 were people who had only been on a B5 and didn't realise that the E400H is much better

I've been on both  :P

Did you choose the B5? If so why? :)

Yeah, I did. Better engine, better body, quick nippy, never really been a fan of the E400Hs ever since I got on the first one  ::)

[Mike K]

Currently on 5413 heading towards Wolverhampton, certainly feels quick and much smoother than the B5's but haven't detected any evidence of Stop-start yet

Also 5412 and 5414 out, no sign of 5410

It was this article (paragraph second from bottom) that indicated they would be stop-start:

http://www.alexander-dennis.com/media-details.php?s=47&subs=69&catID=1&itemID=150

[wilmotm (Matt Wilmot)]

Well I was on E400h's yesterday for about 2 hours on the 1 and not a single stop-start, maybe too cold? Maybe not setup yet